Copeland's out here snapping his leg trying to get over. Meanwhile Christian is red hot with nothing more than a sleeveless turtleneck and a paternal mindset.
@@stephenmoore3035Even Edge acknowledged that Christian was the better of the 2, but Vince McMahon thought he looked creepy, so he never really pushed him.
@ThePatrix1879 I was about to comment how insane do you have to be to look at Edge and Christian side by side and think Christian is the creepy lookin one, and then I was like "oh, right, Vince" 😂
AEW's only contribution to society is awakening the populace to the fact Christian was always the better of the two (only TNA been knew since the 2000s)
About 30 years ago I stepped off a piece of industrial equipment and misjudged the distance to the ground. I ended up jamming my leg and my back. Watching this clip brought back the memory of that shooting pain up my spine as if it happened 30 seconds ago.
Randy Savage in WCW did a similar leap off the top of a steel cage and landed on his feet; he was supposed to land a double axehandle on Hulk Hogan , but the Hulkster pulled a "catching you off the top of the cage doesn't work for me, brother" and Savage's legs folded like a cheap lawn chair when he landed. To this day, I still have no idea how Savage didn't break his legs or wreck both his knees on that leap.
So glad the What went wrong series is back. This is one of the few TH-cam series out there in the wrestling community that wants to actually help their contemporaries and improve the safety of the workers.
I don't understand why he didn't just do a frog splash type landing. Like after all these years he should've known better. Rikishi pulled it off on Val Venis without incident ffs. Way to tarnish the ending of a great career by choosing to go to Gay E W
It’s great to see Stevie Richards doing this kind of content. I’m glad he found a spot to get back in the wrestling bubble. He was underrated and deserved more. Always been a fan of Big Stevie Cool.
Edge has a fused neck that prevented him from wrestling at all for years. How AEW greenlit this 50yo with a fused neck taking ANY bump off the top of the cage is inconscionable.
I feel like this has turned Edge into kind of a laughing stock and the go to example for “Wrestlers who don’t know when to wind it down and protect their legacies.”
@@cyclopsvision6370 ...it happened on their broadcast? The alternative makes them possibly look even worse: they either didn't know it was going to happen, or they told Edge and Black no, and they did it anyway. All three of these scenarios reflect very poorly on their management and their company.
I love these videos from Stevie. But to sum it up: "What went wrong?" Edge jumped off the top of a frikin' cage and landed on his feet, on a platform mainly supported by wood and metal.
This is what i missed most of Stevies channel, showing what went wrong/right. It shows his wisdom and knowledge of the business from the inside, such a valuable perspective.
Watching live, I had no idea wtf Edge was trying to do. The next day, I had idea wtf Edge was trying to do. Now it's been over a month, and I STILL don't know wtf Edge was trying to do. At least the table broke!
Some many spots these days are so very risky but garner next to no reaction. Ther are so many dives, high flying spots nowadays that they no longer feel special. The Big E accident is a prime example where the spot was risky but hardly anybody would've noticed if not for the accident. Back in the day I was awestruck with the dives and cool spots because they were special. Now I instead long for some old school ground based wrestling, rest holds and all. 😅
In a way, Sting doing what he was doing in AEW in his early 60's really set the bar at an unrealistic level.Guys with as many miles as Adam and Sting have no business doing these stunts anymore.
A lot of wrestlers do not know when to hang it up. The fact Edge would even go to AEW to become a midcard champion is just asinine. And he destroyed his leg over a midcard championship, in a midcard feud..........dude could have did all this while going to NXT and fighting against the younger guys.
@@alphanerd7221 I know..being a multiple time world Champion and one half of one of the most iconic tag teams of all time in WWE was just terrible. What he does in AEW is what he will always be known for…..(irony off)
@@Bale4Bond Being a multiple time champion in WWE means nothing. There are like 20 belts and they change like musical chairs. Edge and Christian were WWF.
I never saw much in Edge. Christian did nearly all the big bump when he teamed and Christian was the better wrestler imo. Started tuning out by the time he went solo and saw the begining to the R Rated Superstar gimick and that was about it.
All these old timers are going to AEW and damn near crippling themselves doing stuff that they shouldn't be doing. It's really like there's no quality control going on. Like, is there nobody who helps set the matches up that can say "Maybe you shouldn't do this?". The constant need for high spots just raises risk and brings down the quality of the product.
@@fingersTitan Edge was always a glorified midcarder to me (a midcard-level talent who consistently got main event-level pushes). When I heard about him retiring the first time, my kneejerk reaction was THANK GOD. Nothing against him personally, I just think he's a crashing bore and it's a shame that it took a horrible neck injury to stop him from being incessantly rammed down everyone's throat.
What went wrong? Middle-aged man trying to re-live his glory days. How about at that age, have standard safe wrestling matches. He already proved himself.
There's a reason why WWE probably didn't let him do a spot like that in the cage match with Balor at Mania 39.... No need to be jumping off the top of cages at 50 years old with the list of injuries hes had over the years. Just go out there have the match use a few of the gimmicks and go home
so happy this is back through WSI. I love stevie's analysis and was pissed as hell when his previous channel got shutdown was the table to close? i mean it's a risky spot no matter what but to splash someone on a near vertical drop has far more force than a splash on a more diagonal trajectory. seems like if the table was in the middle of the ring at least the force at impact (of a well executed splash) would be lessened.
20 year old legs would be destroyed after that. Edge is out of gis mind and not in a good way. Due has made his money, he has won his championships and is getting paid even more money in AEW. The fact he even felt the need to do this shows the AEW culture is toxic to the point veterans feel they have to do this......which is why they needed CM Punk. CM Punk called out BS like this and was against this from the beginning.
@@alphanerd7221 I know. AEW is just red hot right know with their constantly diminishing viewership and half empty arenas. WWE ain‘t got nothing on them.
It is hard to compare jumping off a cage onto another person to just about anything else, but hesitation or pulling back can get you seriously hurt in a lot of sports. Happens all the time on the MTB trail - people panic brake at the base or lip of a jump and lose all their forward momentum, usually resulting in a long drop or a face first slam. I don't know if the spot was supposed to be an elbow or a splash, but fear definitely took over.
This year I had a much smaller fall than this and landed straight on my right heel. Couldn't walk right for a month and 3 months later, my knee is still aching and I'm only 25, though granted I didn't break anything. Can't imagine someone double my age going through twice the fall I had, it's unthinkable the amount of pain he's in. He wanted a memorable moment and he ironically got it. Could be the last thing in his career and for what?
Agree with stevie, the Gangrel appearance kind of made the dive redundant. Adam copeland also shouldn't need to do these spots at this point in his career. Especially after the neck injury forcing him to retire.
When Edge first signed with WWE they were constantly comparing him to Sting online. I wouldn't be surprised if TK didn't suggest this spot. All he had to do was say "Sting did all kinds of crazy dives for us."
When I saw him setting up for the dive I said out loud, "Adam, you;re a 50 year old man. You should definitely not be doing this." And then he crashed and burned and then still FINISHED the match on one leg like a boss. What a pro. You could see how much Gangrel was supporting him as they went up the ramp afterwards. I didn't realize until Stevie said it that the dive spot was even dumber in light of the Gangrel surprise that was about to happen (and which I popped for so hard). When you're a major attraction and (ahem) no longer a young lion you have to plan your bumps more carefully and more strategically. Putting yourself on the shelf for goodness knows how long chasing a cheap pop just hurts everybody.
15:36 Stevie makes a good point here, you’ve gotta protect people from themselves sometimes because otherwise they might end up biting off more than they can chew and do something needlessly dangerous
I'm already seeing the logic behind this collaboration between Stevie and WSI. Would love to see fragile Tony and his referee/social media coordinator/cart horse copyright strike a channel belonging to someone who knows how to counterclaim bogus strikes.
I haven't seen the clip yet, but one thing I'd note is, I heard Edge retired because of a messed up neck so Stevie was mentioning the risks of over rotating and hurting your elbow or head (for a person with no injury history) but I'm sure someone with neck injuries would try to be extra aware of anything that could be a risk to their neck
At 50 years old with a history of bad injurys there's just no need to go out there and do stuff like that. The match was a midcard title match against a midcard guy in a match that was already gimmicked up to the gills with a cage full of weapons and barbwire. It was a hat on a hat already so it was pointless doing that spot
It was like he changed his mind the second he left the cage, and just kinda gave up in mid-air lol. I hope he recovers quickly and doesn't have any lasting complications...
I'm not just saying this cuz this is his channel or whatever I always thought Stevie was f****** underrated as f***I thought he was awesome as good as Shawn Michaels taller healthier-looking and could kick 🦵 just as good
This kind of makes me laugh considering I saw a Kayfabe Commentaries comment thread where someone called Stevie a "discount Edge." I would think even taking a splash from that height would be dangerous. 200+ pound man coming down from 18 feet.
3:40 that’s what I was thinking too. People no-sell in AEW all the time. Would’ve been perfectly normal for Black to hop up off of that table like nothing happened to prevent Edge from hurting himself.
Not only did he under rotate he started to go backwards as like to senton Black. From this angle it looked like Edges legs started going under the table before it broke.
It seemed like he was half in and afraid of hurting Malaki from landing on him and hurting himself as Malaki was covered in barbed wire. I think the barbed wire element made the bump way more dangerous and added to the hesitation and trying to protect Malaki/himself
Man, that reminds me of seeing Randy Savage on top of the cage getting ready for his elbow drop. I don't see how any of these guys aren't crippled in the ring even though many of them will be after they retire.
When Stevie was talking about legends getting younger talent over, he’s assuming that Edge is doing that, when he isn’t. Ever since he returned in 2020, the only feud he’s lost was to Roman
Absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary spot for a wrestler of any age, let alone someone in their 50s. Shocking that Adam thought this was a good idea with all of his experience.
The difference is, WWE plans out spots. Aew, the wrestlers just throw ideas and tony says cool. If someone told Vince they weren't sure about a spot and he went to do it and said no, then it wouldn't be done.
Wasn't there barbed wire involved in this spot too? I heard that he intentionally dropped like this because he didn't want to hurt himself by diving onto barbed wire from that height.
Just watched a video where Edge was talking about that Ladder spear spot...I guess they did do it once on a random show before that PPV, and guess what..he landed on his legs & it didn't look very good (& lucky he didn't hurt himself)
I wanted to be in the buisness. Stevie once nicely as ever anyone said no in philly. Lol. Thank u stevie. Now i have a career i can retire from. Philly honest tough love love u!
I think he wanted to get his hands down to brace himself on Black and the table when he hit (think of it like you are looking down giving a diamond cutter signal to your cat) - But once he jumped his hands involuntarily wanted to go up towards his face and neck - and he was unable to override that mentally so it was straight down to the mat.
Adam seems a lovely man, would never want to see him injured. And Edge is of course in a class of his own. But frankly, the status he has confers the power to prioritise his own body & brand over his employer. He had the money, clout and respect not to have to do this, and by choosing his ego and doing it anyway, he inconvenienced his familly and set an awful example to his junior workers in the locker-room.
I saw Kevin Owens at msg on smackdown do the swanton from the top of the tunnel and I was thinking man I hope he didnt break anything. He's 40 years old, these guys think they're still in their 20s
Excellent analysis!!! You know most men get smarter as they get older. That's why they call them "wise old men". This does not seem to be the case with some professional wrestlers like Edge. Time to hang up the boots and retire Edge. Your ego is not your amigo.
The fact that TK and AEW allow a middle age man to do THIS, no matter if would have gone right or not, is stupid,is sad that Edge who is a professional couldn't understand before this that was a BAD IDEA, he should know better, but in the end Tony is the one who should always approve what dangerous spots are done, as if anything goes WRONG is on TK head this will fall down, so he can't allow people take THIS LEVEL OF RISK specially someone who is already old, no matter who he is, what accomplished have done, it doesn't matter, you say NO.....this could have ended the same way Sid Vicious broke his leg on WCW thankfully wasn't that bad but still, is dumb this was allow to happen.
Dave heath is not underrated as a person. He is one of my favorite people in the wrestling business. Anyone who's ever seen an interview or heard him talk at any length can tell how nice of a guy he is.
How many guys have gotten injured there in unnecessary spots? Eddie kingston,edge Matt hardy,Dante Martin, Jeff hardy, Brian danielson. The list goes on and on.
Why did they go after Stevie's old channel so hard with the copyright claims but not this channel or someone like Mavens channel? It seems like they were singling him out
Probably because a lot of channels can be dismissed as opinion but Stevie was basically scientifically analysing wrestlers to the point of dangerous ideas being indefensible.
Honestly if i was Edge and second guessing myself and didn't wanna bail out, I probably wouldve done either a Superfly Splash, or a Diving Legsdrop. Yes they are both just as dangerous but i know that A.) The Splash i would land on Aleister Black on my stomach, B.) with the Leg drop id be landing on Aleister Black and most likely won't overshoot it. Same with the splash i wouldn't overshoot it. This elbow drop once i saw him jump feet first i knew he was gonna get injured.
WWE cages usually have a platform in the corners for the wrestlers to jump off of. Didn't seem like that AEW cage have much for him to stand on up there to get footing to get a jump off 😢
![TEEDEE TADA - DIAMOND NARAKORN X LEGO LYKN [Special Dance Performance]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QgtZedFeumA/mqdefault.jpg)
Copeland's out here snapping his leg trying to get over. Meanwhile Christian is red hot with nothing more than a sleeveless turtleneck and a paternal mindset.
Who’s better now?
@@stephenmoore3035Even Edge acknowledged that Christian was the better of the 2, but Vince McMahon thought he looked creepy, so he never really pushed him.
@@ThePatrix1879 lol he does look kinda creepy
@ThePatrix1879 I was about to comment how insane do you have to be to look at Edge and Christian side by side and think Christian is the creepy lookin one, and then I was like "oh, right, Vince" 😂
AEW's only contribution to society is awakening the populace to the fact Christian was always the better of the two (only TNA been knew since the 2000s)
I miss these Stevie Richards "What Went Wrong/Right" videos. My knees and ankles hurt seeing that landing.
Ass
If it weren't because of those copyright strikes from AEW, millions of wrestling fans would have watched Stevie's content.
Yeah it's like he stole Balors finish for the same match he had with Finn at his last mania.. crazy, why not do something other than a toothpick
About 30 years ago I stepped off a piece of industrial equipment and misjudged the distance to the ground. I ended up jamming my leg and my back. Watching this clip brought back the memory of that shooting pain up my spine as if it happened 30 seconds ago.
Why is Stevie Richard’s not an agent somewhere? It’s criminal
He’s doing amazing on his own, why go back to working for someone else?
@@albino5995 Easier to make money from corporate than to depend on youtube
Randy Savage in WCW did a similar leap off the top of a steel cage and landed on his feet; he was supposed to land a double axehandle on Hulk Hogan , but the Hulkster pulled a "catching you off the top of the cage doesn't work for me, brother" and Savage's legs folded like a cheap lawn chair when he landed.
To this day, I still have no idea how Savage didn't break his legs or wreck both his knees on that leap.
yeah that was worse fall .he migt got some torn muscles . which heals reltively fast
There must've been something in those Slim Jims
Cocaine is one hell of a drug
And to this day I still don't know how Hogan got away with that.
Yea I remember seeing that
So glad the What went wrong series is back. This is one of the few TH-cam series out there in the wrestling community that wants to actually help their contemporaries and improve the safety of the workers.
True but my only complain is the person who is doing what went wrong series was a glorified jobber in WWE :(
@@pinroshan020Who gives a fuck? He’s still a trained professional who was a “glorified jobber” at the highest level.
@@pinroshan020 What's wrong with that? He worked with huge stars and had a very long career and knows what he's talking about.
To me the issue was pretty obvious what went wrong: he didn't commit. He hesitated, landed on his feet, and hurt himself.
Yeah but it's edge so it's hard to believe
@@MarcYanruw that is the surprising part. Adam 'edge' is an incredible performer so it's surprising to see him so hesitant throughout the move.
I don't understand why he didn't just do a frog splash type landing. Like after all these years he should've known better. Rikishi pulled it off on Val Venis without incident ffs. Way to tarnish the ending of a great career by choosing to go to Gay E W
What went wrong was that he landed on his feet, he was supposed to splash his opponent, who was laying on a breakable table
@@cyclopsvision6370 Yes, I agree, but I think he landed on his feet because he hesitated before he jumped rather than committing to the splash.
It’s great to see Stevie Richards doing this kind of content. I’m glad he found a spot to get back in the wrestling bubble. He was underrated and deserved more. Always been a fan of Big Stevie Cool.
Adam Copeland said he signed to AEW to have fun. Here he is having fun. Wonder what he will do for fun next.
His wife
@@roberts9969 thats shameful
@@roberts9969 i was gonna say someone else's wife
Edge has a fused neck that prevented him from wrestling at all for years. How AEW greenlit this 50yo with a fused neck taking ANY bump off the top of the cage is inconscionable.
I feel like this has turned Edge into kind of a laughing stock and the go to example for “Wrestlers who don’t know when to wind it down and protect their legacies.”
What evidence do you have that AEW management greenlit this move?
@@cyclopsvision6370 ...it happened on their broadcast? The alternative makes them possibly look even worse: they either didn't know it was going to happen, or they told Edge and Black no, and they did it anyway. All three of these scenarios reflect very poorly on their management and their company.
I love these videos from Stevie. But to sum it up: "What went wrong?" Edge jumped off the top of a frikin' cage and landed on his feet, on a platform mainly supported by wood and metal.
This is what i missed most of Stevies channel, showing what went wrong/right. It shows his wisdom and knowledge of the business from the inside, such a valuable perspective.
Watching live, I had no idea wtf Edge was trying to do. The next day, I had idea wtf Edge was trying to do. Now it's been over a month, and I STILL don't know wtf Edge was trying to do. At least the table broke!
The table seemed too close to splash him
😂😂😂
thats exactly what i thought, at least they got the table, lol
Some many spots these days are so very risky but garner next to no reaction.
Ther are so many dives, high flying spots nowadays that they no longer feel special.
The Big E accident is a prime example where the spot was risky but hardly anybody would've noticed if not for the accident.
Back in the day I was awestruck with the dives and cool spots because they were special. Now I instead long for some old school ground based wrestling, rest holds and all. 😅
In a way, Sting doing what he was doing in AEW in his early 60's really set the bar at an unrealistic level.Guys with as many miles as Adam and Sting have no business doing these stunts anymore.
Sting paced himself properly and didn't do anything he was unprepared for.
It's great to have this series back and having a two-person team talk about is a big improvement too.
I am happy for you two starting this podcast. Stevie is a real one.
Edge had a perfect send-off in WWE. He's one of my favorites of all time but Edge in AEW is just kinda sad.
A lot of wrestlers do not know when to hang it up. The fact Edge would even go to AEW to become a midcard champion is just asinine. And he destroyed his leg over a midcard championship, in a midcard feud..........dude could have did all this while going to NXT and fighting against the younger guys.
@@2Good2BeTrue45 shut up being a troll
Him in WWE was sad. He's doing the best work of his singles career in AEW.
@@alphanerd7221 I know..being a multiple time world Champion and one half of one of the most iconic tag teams of all time in WWE was just terrible.
What he does in AEW is what he will always be known for…..(irony off)
@@Bale4Bond Being a multiple time champion in WWE means nothing. There are like 20 belts and they change like musical chairs. Edge and Christian were WWF.
WHAT WENT WRONG: EDGE THOUGHT THIS WAS 2002. Which in his entire career has neve done any spot like this off a cage.
I never saw much in Edge. Christian did nearly all the big bump when he teamed and Christian was the better wrestler imo. Started tuning out by the time he went solo and saw the begining to the R Rated Superstar gimick and that was about it.
All these old timers are going to AEW and damn near crippling themselves doing stuff that they shouldn't be doing. It's really like there's no quality control going on. Like, is there nobody who helps set the matches up that can say "Maybe you shouldn't do this?". The constant need for high spots just raises risk and brings down the quality of the product.
@@fingersTitan Edge was always a glorified midcarder to me (a midcard-level talent who consistently got main event-level pushes). When I heard about him retiring the first time, my kneejerk reaction was THANK GOD. Nothing against him personally, I just think he's a crashing bore and it's a shame that it took a horrible neck injury to stop him from being incessantly rammed down everyone's throat.
He wanted one more memorable moment other than the spear off the ladder
@@planetschlock He was a main eventer because there were no other stars left.
What went wrong? Middle-aged man trying to re-live his glory days. How about at that age, have standard safe wrestling matches. He already proved himself.
There's a reason why WWE probably didn't let him do a spot like that in the cage match with Balor at Mania 39.... No need to be jumping off the top of cages at 50 years old with the list of injuries hes had over the years. Just go out there have the match use a few of the gimmicks and go home
Bro, Edge, bro got so much attention bro. This got views and likes bro.. car crash TV is the future bro - Russo probably
@@ren17x50IT'S EN-TER-TAIN-MENT!!!
"But it was the feud-ending match, after their epic rivalry of 20 minutes. It *needed* a moment like this!!"
I believe Russo did a video with Al Snow and if I'm correct, he said the opposite. Russo was not thrilled about this. @@ren17x50
Great job Stevie and James. I like the combo of you two
I'm glad these are back. Thank goodness. We'll done guys
Dude's crankin out content like its nothin gotta love it
Absolutely. ‘Round these parts we respect the grind.
Stevie Richards: “We’re both kind of ass heavy”
Billy Gunn: “👁️👄👁️”
I hope Tony gave him plenty of hugs
Probably gave him something else that rhymes with hugs.
@@STC987 zing!
@@STC987what? Bugs? Pugs? Let a naysayer know
@@herecomesdatrain Tugs
Hugs or drugs ?.
so happy this is back through WSI. I love stevie's analysis and was pissed as hell when his previous channel got shutdown
was the table to close? i mean it's a risky spot no matter what but to splash someone on a near vertical drop has far more force than a splash on a more diagonal trajectory. seems like if the table was in the middle of the ring at least the force at impact (of a well executed splash) would be lessened.
Great to see James and Stevie collaborating.
Slapnut
"What went wrong"
Dude pin dropped onto 50 yo legs.
His legs were trying to escape back up his own ass
20 year old legs would be destroyed after that. Edge is out of gis mind and not in a good way.
Due has made his money, he has won his championships and is getting paid even more money in AEW. The fact he even felt the need to do this shows the AEW culture is toxic to the point veterans feel they have to do this......which is why they needed CM Punk. CM Punk called out BS like this and was against this from the beginning.
What went wrong:
Edge didn’t retire after his Match with Sheamus in WWE and instead chose to slum it up in AEW.
Adam Copeland has been having great matches in AEW. Don't be a loser tribalistic moron.
Slum is still overselling it for that company.
Edge is in the best wrestling company now and that's why his cage matches don't suck anymore.
@@alphanerd7221 I know. AEW is just red hot right know with their constantly diminishing viewership and half empty arenas.
WWE ain‘t got nothing on them.
@@Bale4Bond 1.2 Mill opening. 1.2 when Punk turned up. 1.1 stayed for Punk MJF.. Then it had a little drop. 520k that are left agree with @alphanerd
I LOVE THESE. So cool seeing it on this channel too
This looked brutal!!!! I heal far slower at 44 than I did at 14, 24, and 34. He is 50!!!
It is hard to compare jumping off a cage onto another person to just about anything else, but hesitation or pulling back can get you seriously hurt in a lot of sports. Happens all the time on the MTB trail - people panic brake at the base or lip of a jump and lose all their forward momentum, usually resulting in a long drop or a face first slam. I don't know if the spot was supposed to be an elbow or a splash, but fear definitely took over.
True. The most spectacular lucky athletes I know of have little to no fear nor regard for their body.
This year I had a much smaller fall than this and landed straight on my right heel. Couldn't walk right for a month and 3 months later, my knee is still aching and I'm only 25, though granted I didn't break anything. Can't imagine someone double my age going through twice the fall I had, it's unthinkable the amount of pain he's in. He wanted a memorable moment and he ironically got it. Could be the last thing in his career and for what?
Great collab guys
I could seriously listen to him when he does these videos... even getting my first foot in the wrestling business... I'll sit and take notes 😅
Agree with stevie, the Gangrel appearance kind of made the dive redundant. Adam copeland also shouldn't need to do these spots at this point in his career. Especially after the neck injury forcing him to retire.
What you said
If the dive wasn't the finish of the match, regardless of Gangrel appearing or not, it was a useless spot.
His neck was safe.
@@alphanerd7221 Are you seriously not aware that he suffered a career ending neck injury in 2011, or are you actually that thick?
@@Bale4Bond You saying random things isn't making people that aren't you look thick.
Phenomenal work SR and James! Lovin it 🔥
When Edge first signed with WWE they were constantly comparing him to Sting online. I wouldn't be surprised if TK didn't suggest this spot. All he had to do was say "Sting did all kinds of crazy dives for us."
Can we get more of these? They arr excellent.
When I saw him setting up for the dive I said out loud, "Adam, you;re a 50 year old man. You should definitely not be doing this." And then he crashed and burned and then still FINISHED the match on one leg like a boss. What a pro. You could see how much Gangrel was supporting him as they went up the ramp afterwards. I didn't realize until Stevie said it that the dive spot was even dumber in light of the Gangrel surprise that was about to happen (and which I popped for so hard). When you're a major attraction and (ahem) no longer a young lion you have to plan your bumps more carefully and more strategically. Putting yourself on the shelf for goodness knows how long chasing a cheap pop just hurts everybody.
15:36 Stevie makes a good point here, you’ve gotta protect people from themselves sometimes because otherwise they might end up biting off more than they can chew and do something needlessly dangerous
What went wrong is that it should have never happened.
I'm already seeing the logic behind this collaboration between Stevie and WSI. Would love to see fragile Tony and his referee/social media coordinator/cart horse copyright strike a channel belonging to someone who knows how to counterclaim bogus strikes.
I haven't seen the clip yet, but one thing I'd note is, I heard Edge retired because of a messed up neck
so Stevie was mentioning the risks of over rotating and hurting your elbow or head (for a person with no injury history)
but I'm sure someone with neck injuries would try to be extra aware of anything that could be a risk to their neck
Would be a decent heal move to climb to the top and then climb back down
It's what prime Edge would have done
He did a half-Sid
But Adam Copeland has a full brain
@@adamirishconundrum851 Does he though?! He NEVER should have even tried to do this spot!
Adam Copeland has lost his Edge.
At 50 years old with a history of bad injurys there's just no need to go out there and do stuff like that. The match was a midcard title match against a midcard guy in a match that was already gimmicked up to the gills with a cage full of weapons and barbwire. It was a hat on a hat already so it was pointless doing that spot
Typical TK cocaine booking
It was like he changed his mind the second he left the cage, and just kinda gave up in mid-air lol. I hope he recovers quickly and doesn't have any lasting complications...
he is 50, there is no quick recovery at that age
@@floggyWM1 Or not having lasting complications.
No one thought about the spot beforehand. Edge got up there and improvised.
Thanks!
Pressure from Mr. Nose candy khan.
That's what happened.
Place is a JOKE
I'm not just saying this cuz this is his channel or whatever I always thought Stevie was f****** underrated as f***I thought he was awesome as good as Shawn Michaels taller healthier-looking and could kick 🦵 just as good
This kind of makes me laugh considering I saw a Kayfabe Commentaries comment thread where someone called Stevie a "discount Edge."
I would think even taking a splash from that height would be dangerous. 200+ pound man coming down from 18 feet.
Edge was thinking “hey Sid…hold my beer…”
3:40 that’s what I was thinking too. People no-sell in AEW all the time. Would’ve been perfectly normal for Black to hop up off of that table like nothing happened to prevent Edge from hurting himself.
What went wrong is Edge decided to sign a contract with aew.
WWE zombies are so bitter.
He landed on Chris Nowinsky head with his butt doing a leg drop causing Nowinsky a concussion
Not only did he under rotate he started to go backwards as like to senton Black. From this angle it looked like Edges legs started going under the table before it broke.
More of this. Way more of this.
Short synopsis:
“He left WWE for AEW”
It seemed like he was half in and afraid of hurting Malaki from landing on him and hurting himself as Malaki was covered in barbed wire. I think the barbed wire element made the bump way more dangerous and added to the hesitation and trying to protect Malaki/himself
I’m pretty sure he was trying an. Elbow drop not a regular splash
With barbed wire involved. It was a stupid spot that didn't need to be done, especially if it wasn't the finish.
Man, that reminds me of seeing Randy Savage on top of the cage getting ready for his elbow drop. I don't see how any of these guys aren't crippled in the ring even though many of them will be after they retire.
When Stevie was talking about legends getting younger talent over, he’s assuming that Edge is doing that, when he isn’t. Ever since he returned in 2020, the only feud he’s lost was to Roman
Absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary spot for a wrestler of any age, let alone someone in their 50s. Shocking that Adam thought this was a good idea with all of his experience.
The difference is, WWE plans out spots. Aew, the wrestlers just throw ideas and tony says cool. If someone told Vince they weren't sure about a spot and he went to do it and said no, then it wouldn't be done.
Total BS.
Wasn't there barbed wire involved in this spot too? I heard that he intentionally dropped like this because he didn't want to hurt himself by diving onto barbed wire from that height.
Your bones and muscles are two different things. I don't care how much TRT you are on, your bone density starts to decline as you approach 50.
Just watched a video where Edge was talking about that Ladder spear spot...I guess they did do it once on a random show before that PPV, and guess what..he landed on his legs & it didn't look very good (& lucky he didn't hurt himself)
Not an AEW watcher, but still heard about Edge. Honestly didn't even know Gangrel showed, never heard it. Know what I did hear? Edge breaking his leg.
What went wrong? He’s in his 50s and jumped off the top of a cage. Lesson over -thanks for watching!
I wanted to be in the buisness. Stevie once nicely as ever anyone said no in philly. Lol. Thank u stevie. Now i have a career i can retire from. Philly honest tough love love u!
Stevie prob dont remember but u my fav for being a philly guy. Helped someone that dont belong being saved from new jack. U the man stevie!
Dr. Stevie out here saving countless lives
I think he wanted to get his hands down to brace himself on Black and the table when he hit (think of it like you are looking down giving a diamond cutter signal to your cat) - But once he jumped his hands involuntarily wanted to go up towards his face and neck - and he was unable to override that mentally so it was straight down to the mat.
Over/under on the copyright strike? I have it at a week
What went wrong is he went up there to do that in the first place. Horrible idea.
That is tough to watch. Wow
Adam seems a lovely man, would never want to see him injured. And Edge is of course in a class of his own. But frankly, the status he has confers the power to prioritise his own body & brand over his employer. He had the money, clout and respect not to have to do this, and by choosing his ego and doing it anyway, he inconvenienced his familly and set an awful example to his junior workers in the locker-room.
What went right?
Why is a 50 year old guy even trying this ? Not nessisary
Necessary*
@@garymaidman625 I knew that was coming.
@@distantstorm3808 I couldn't resist 🤷
@@garymaidman625 Yes, and it was absolutely nessisary on this occasion.
@@distantstorm3808 indeed
I saw Kevin Owens at msg on smackdown do the swanton from the top of the tunnel and I was thinking man I hope he didnt break anything. He's 40 years old, these guys think they're still in their 20s
Excellent analysis!!! You know most men get smarter as they get older. That's why they call them "wise old men". This does not seem to be the case with some professional wrestlers like Edge. Time to hang up the boots and retire Edge. Your ego is not your amigo.
Ego+conditioning to a reckless culture+fear of mortality+cumulative head trauma
The fact that TK and AEW allow a middle age man to do THIS, no matter if would have gone right or not, is stupid,is sad that Edge who is a professional couldn't understand before this that was a BAD IDEA, he should know better, but in the end Tony is the one who should always approve what dangerous spots are done, as if anything goes WRONG is on TK head this will fall down, so he can't allow people take THIS LEVEL OF RISK specially someone who is already old, no matter who he is, what accomplished have done, it doesn't matter, you say NO.....this could have ended the same way Sid Vicious broke his leg on WCW thankfully wasn't that bad but still, is dumb this was allow to happen.
Dave heath is not underrated as a person. He is one of my favorite people in the wrestling business. Anyone who's ever seen an interview or heard him talk at any length can tell how nice of a guy he is.
He didn't need to do this. I like Edge and still think he's got a little still left in the tank but yeah, horrible idea. Wish him the best.
James never noticed how yoked you were no diddy.
How many guys have gotten injured there in unnecessary spots? Eddie kingston,edge Matt hardy,Dante Martin, Jeff hardy, Brian danielson. The list goes on and on.
In one angle you see his foot hits the barbed wire slightly, which does mess with the trajectory of the maneuver
I think Edge was at a point that he wanted to break his legs 🦵 to get paid time off.The guy is up there on age.
and Brisco did the same thing this weekend...but he got lucky.
Jay looking out for him
Why did they go after Stevie's old channel so hard with the copyright claims but not this channel or someone like Mavens channel? It seems like they were singling him out
Probably because a lot of channels can be dismissed as opinion but Stevie was basically scientifically analysing wrestlers to the point of dangerous ideas being indefensible.
Not sure if using crowd footage covers them.. I'd guess not entirely but I've seen James do this with Dutch aswell
Honestly if i was Edge and second guessing myself and didn't wanna bail out, I probably wouldve done either a Superfly Splash, or a Diving Legsdrop. Yes they are both just as dangerous but i know that A.) The Splash i would land on Aleister Black on my stomach, B.) with the Leg drop id be landing on Aleister Black and most likely won't overshoot it. Same with the splash i wouldn't overshoot it. This elbow drop once i saw him jump feet first i knew he was gonna get injured.
Can't believe Horseface hasn't tried to copyright strike this video yet.
Neigh!
“Unfortunately he went”
No shame in climbing down and attacking him. In hindsight they still could have broken the table
@@adamirishconundrum851 the slayer entrance was so sweet
Dude had no business up there simple.
I think What's his name needed to move over and let Edge have a little more of that table to land on.
WWE cages usually have a platform in the corners for the wrestlers to jump off of. Didn't seem like that AEW cage have much for him to stand on up there to get footing to get a jump off 😢
How long till this is taken down?
AEW! AEW! AEW!
They made sure to use fan cam footage so they shouldn't be able to take it down
At least we got to see it before it gets copyrighted
@@oakT800 gotcha
He climbed to the top and when he jumped he said to himself "Oh dear!"
This hurt my herniated disc badly