Nice video Sandy! Can't help but like RJ. Under his leadership Rivian is actively doing the things they need to to survive and thrive in this new transportation paradigm. I wish them success for all our sakes.
More plastic snaps, make it cheaper, is not a good manufacturing policy. Well if Sandi says, it must be...............some absurd reasoning, or just shilling...or clueless. I uhhh, aaaahh, get speech therapy, it's really annoying,
I wondered if the reason the grounding brushes were left in the design was in case they had a supply issue with the ceramic balls and had to go back to SS. And all the IGBT supply chain pain brought me right back to the job I retired from in 2021. :)
@@jondiaz3475”Hey! It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone.”
Hats off to Mr Scaringe for being so open and willing to talk shop. I would bet that he wasn't disclosing the specific figure on cost reduction because of its impact on the company's share price.
More CEOs should be out and talking about technical details of the products or services they build. Great conversation, looking forward to seeing more of these 1:1
Love the open and candid discussion however the question that was missed was about repairability costs. Recent articles claiming low speed rear collisions costing upwards of 1/2 the vehicle purchase price.
Love the discussion! Great job getting Sandy & RJ together. We love our R1T (Quad). I’m not sure all you give up with the dual (basically a part time awd), loss of torque vectoring on slick roads or performance driving is worth only 7% more range.
@@terrysullivan1992 Much lower? A base R1T is now $79,000 with zero options, + destination, taxes, fee's, and no home charger. Base prices are $79K, $84K, & $87K. All Sandy and RJ discussed really was the Performance Dual which is only $3K cheaper, and yet, you really do give up a lot for only a slight increase in range. The cost saving is to Rivian and I understand that. But as a consumer, I see more value in the Quad. Just my preference. Some people may qualify for the tax credit in the base, but that I think will only be partial as the batteries are imported. You also have income qualifications.
I think realistically you’re giving up very little. Modern vehicles brake spinning wheels to force power to gripping tires under the circumstances you describe. Quad motor is certainly superior but I don’t think there are a lot of circumstances where it’s going to make “all the difference” for 99.7% of buyers. And I don’t think 95% would even be able to tell the difference.
Yes, but Rivian is not a "major" OEM, it's a small start up . RJ is an engineer and Rivian has lots of backing. Great truck, great engineering, truely hope they survive into full profitable production.
Thanks Sandy, for the followup with JR. Gave the first-look Rivian, at the factory with JR high marks for design, quality build, and performance. The second-look with your better-half was also impressive, but she could probably sell me sand in the desert😊 JR still owes her(...$) The only thing that concerned me about the Rivian was the 300+ suppliers, and JR went directly to that issue of 'verticle-integration'. JR's grown quite-a-bit with this EV, looks good, a bit worn, and certainly more confident/comfortable with his product. Ohhh, that metal plate in the inverter, separating the mother-daughter boards, is for heat-sink and electrostatic isolation. 2-motor performance speaks to the overall improvement in efficiency, ...despite the brushes plus ceramic bearings😃
I want to know more about the dual motor traction strategies and what the trade offs there are moving from the quad motor in much much more detail than the marketing flier might suggest. Very few have actually talked about it that I've seen.
There was a lot of talk about the max pack last April with the dual motor, but nothing since then. I’ve been waiting patiently for the max pack configuration for four years because I tow. Please some updates on the max pack.
Elon also is of the direct answers.... have you ever listened to mary barra during an investor call, shes like never willing to give a real answer like shes a politician
It is major plus advertizing for Rivian to have Sandy praise it and it's engineering. RJ might as well be very open with Sandy and Monro is going to be doing a total tear down soon and will know all.
I do wish RJ and his team would put more time into finding a true solution to my R1T’s half shaft clicking, tocking, and persistent alignment issues. Also, when is my replacement Powered Tonneau cover coming?
For a first vehicle of a startup company it’s actually impressive good reliability. When you have GM failing on differentials after more than a century of assembly, that’s a problem.
Couldnt they solve the off road issue with dual motor by adding electronic lockers in the front and the rear? Technically with the quad motor you are spreading out 900 lb/ft between 4 wheels. With a dual motor you are spreading a tiny bit less torque but can spread that out to two wheels.
They went to all the work to make the rear axle disconnect in order to make it slightly more efficient but they can’t put in a locker so that it’s actually useful in Rock Crawl mode??? And for the quad motor version it’s just software.
good discussions. The main issue with the Rivian in my mind, is their price point. The R1S is still relevant, but the R1T, I feel is over priced. I can't deny the attributes such as handling, power, off road capability, misc camping/overlanding add ons available, and range are worthy, but the things I can't get past as a consumer used to "full size" pick ups, is the interior space, frunk size/grill in the way, and total vehicle size. Not to mention limited outlets on the truck to only 110volt.... thus unable to use truck fully as a home back up generator.. To many folks, especially already driving a tacoma, ridgeline, maverick, colorado, or ranger, this will be a non-issue, but to other truck people, such as myself, I just cant down size (the American way!). That being said, I own a Ford Lightning , already put 35,000 flawless miles on it, and couldn't be happier! I am very impressed overall with Rivian as a company, RJ as a leader, the vertical integration, NACS adoption, and functionality of the vehicle... but now the price I feel is 10K too high, even for the dual motor variant. Good luck Rivian! Keep it up.
If, as it sounds like, they're selling all they can make, then the price isn't too high. To a company, the optimal price is whatever gives them the highest profit. And if Rivian plows that profit into expansion for now, it's a win-win.
@@concinnusExactly, that's basically what I was going to say in response. As long AS people are buying and they're growing sales, there's no reason to lower prices. Why would a company not take that extra profit. Especially a new car company that is ramping up production, they need every cent they can get.
It's impressive the technical abilities of these EV maker CEOs like RJ and Elon, especially when compared to paper pushers like Mary Barra and other legacy door stops. As an investor, it's not difficult to know where I should be investing and where I shouldn't.
@ken-mb5cp don't say never. It's already a miracle that Rivian is making production vehicles I've seen driving around. Also, it took Tesla about 15 years to become profitable, and Amazon took about 12 years to get out of the red.
@@TheReal_JG Used to hear the same reasoning from Lucid stockholders. The guys making a beautiful truck and losing boatloads. Tesla cars were always sold at a profit even when the company was losing money. Bezos put all his profit back into the company but he never sold his books at a loss like Rivian is. It’s simple math.
@@ken-mb5cpRivian is making progress as they further ramp up production. I think the Lucid CEO isn't as good. He's taking over 300 million in salary while his company is failing. Lucid is trying everything, reducing prices, advertising and discounting. Their sales are struggling and not really growing, which is a really bad sign. I think a big advantage Rivian has over Lucid is they're targeting a much larger demographic of luxury EV SUVs & trucks. Versus Lucid targeting the luxury EV sedan market, which has a lot more competition and is a shrinking demographic.
Seems to me like Rivian either needs to make these vehicles more affordable as they scale manufacturing, or start dipping their toes in the more casual consumer markets. By harnessing their brand name, and building cars with similar or superior interior quality and consistency, while reducing the off-roading features (expensive to manufacture, added complexity) in a new, metropolitan-style vehicle. 🤔
They should make a real life competition with all the different EV and ICE off-road vehicles. Everything else is just marketing speech unless you can show that your product is superior in real life off-road situations
@@truthseeker111More likely Rivian will be around in the future than a lot of these legacy automakers. Rivian has good tech and are actually ahead of a lot of some legacy in EV sales or will soon pass them. And what vehicle has 10,000 fewer parts than a Rivian? Also it's usually a lot better not having to hassle with traditional dealerships. Tesla has shown that.
Satisfying that companies I follow have CEOs that are engineers these days. Good luck to Rivian, I think the R1T is safe from the Cybertruck. I am more wary of Hyundai's EV9 vs the R1s
Well, since all the motors are controlled by a computer, it shouldn't be hard to make a cluch engage and disengage smoothly. They make it sould like new tech.
Remember Columbo ? Just when they think they've got away with it - Sandy fires a leading question, as if it's "off the cuff" - Sandy is looking for clues, and knows where to probe for engineering mis-steps, and where cost / manufacturing efficiencies can be made ....
They're ramping up to scale. It takes time, they are new. I guarantee prices will come down as they increase production. EV tech just keeps getting better and cheaper, it's great.
RJ is a true MVP here unlike Elons grifts and riding on the credits of real engineers you can tell that RJ knows what hes talking about and keeps it real without making up vaporware like "full self driving" cars that can make you a profit within a year. I really love this guy for being so open, technical and honest.
There is only a genius in the EV world his name is Elon, and so far no other genius has emerged yet. The Cyber truck will steam roll whatever Rivian will come up with. Do you want to bet? we talk again in about 24 months..
I like Scaringe and think he is next to Elon Musk in the top tier of EV makers (and a lot more likeable and reasonable than Elon!). My prediction is that Tesla and Rivian are going to be the two most successful player in the EV industry.
Tests show Tesla underperforms estimates Despite his appointment being canceled, Ponsin brought his car to a service center in Santa Clara, California. He told Reuters that the visit "lasted 10 minutes" and that technicians "didn't even look at the car physically." A technician at the center told Ponsin his car was fine. Reuters was told by a source that Tesla recently stopped using the Nevada-based diversion team and instead now has range cases handled by "service advisors in an office in Utah." In April, Car and Driver reported that its testing showed Tesla "pursues an impressive figure for its window stickers, and ends up returning real-world results that are on average two times as far off the label value as most EVs." BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche "typically provide a relatively conservative range figure, allowing us to meet or even at times exceed the range numbers in Car and Driver's real-world tests." As a result, "400 miles of stated range for a Tesla and 300 miles for a Porsche is pretty much the same number at real highway speeds."
Tests show Tesla underperforms estimates Despite his appointment being canceled, Ponsin brought his car to a service center in Santa Clara, California. He told Reuters that the visit "lasted 10 minutes" and that technicians "didn't even look at the car physically." A technician at the center told Ponsin his car was fine. Reuters was told by a source that Tesla recently stopped using the Nevada-based diversion team and instead now has range cases handled by "service advisors in an office in Utah." In April, Car and Driver reported that its testing showed Tesla "pursues an impressive figure for its window stickers, and ends up returning real-world results that are on average two times as far off the label value as most EVs." BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche "typically provide a relatively conservative range figure, allowing us to meet or even at times exceed the range numbers in Car and Driver's real-world tests." As a result, "400 miles of stated range for a Tesla and 300 miles for a Porsche is pretty much the same number at real highway speeds."
I love seeing a CEO that can keep up with Sandy on a technical basis. RJ knows his stuff ❤
Nice video Sandy! Can't help but like RJ. Under his leadership Rivian is actively doing the things they need to to survive and thrive in this new transportation paradigm. I wish them success for all our sakes.
As a former engineering test technician, I can't get enough of these discussions hosted by Sandy👍
More plastic snaps, make it cheaper, is not a good manufacturing policy. Well if Sandi says, it must be...............some absurd reasoning, or just shilling...or clueless. I uhhh, aaaahh, get speech therapy, it's really annoying,
@@cengebkomm
❤ XY d es 😂❤❤😂😂“
Sandy declaring that RJ has ceramic balls was the highlight of this interview!
I would have thought they would be brass since he is the "top brass" of Rivian.
I wondered if the reason the grounding brushes were left in the design was in case they had a supply issue with the ceramic balls and had to go back to SS. And all the IGBT supply chain pain brought me right back to the job I retired from in 2021. :)
@@jondiaz3475”Hey! It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone.”
@@jeffpicken5057ok fletch 😊
It is very cool to have such open discussions between company owners. Kudos
Hats off to Mr Scaringe for being so open and willing to talk shop. I would bet that he wasn't disclosing the specific figure on cost reduction because of its impact on the company's share price.
I don’t always watch podcasts on TH-cam but, when I do it’s Munro Live.
RJ Scaringe does a good job explaining Rivian's build philosophy
More CEOs should be out and talking about technical details of the products or services they build. Great conversation, looking forward to seeing more of these 1:1
Great podcast guys. Really found it so interesting and informative. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic interview! Rivian will succeed and I can't wait to see their R2 line up.
Clark Kent is an engineer and he works for Rivian! Wonder what he uses for a phone booth now?
Yeah in this case Clark Kent founded this company and is it’s CEO too .
Hahaha
The same place his iphone is stored?😂😂😂😢
We’ll never see kryptonite used in those cars.
Love the open and candid discussion however the question that was missed was about repairability costs. Recent articles claiming low speed rear collisions costing upwards of 1/2 the vehicle purchase price.
Love the discussion! Great job getting Sandy & RJ together. We love our R1T (Quad). I’m not sure all you give up with the dual (basically a part time awd), loss of torque vectoring on slick roads or performance driving is worth only 7% more range.
Much lower cost to a much broader customer base = lots more sales.
@@terrysullivan1992 Much lower? A base R1T is now $79,000 with zero options, + destination, taxes, fee's, and no home charger. Base prices are $79K, $84K, & $87K. All Sandy and RJ discussed really was the Performance Dual which is only $3K cheaper, and yet, you really do give up a lot for only a slight increase in range. The cost saving is to Rivian and I understand that. But as a consumer, I see more value in the Quad. Just my preference. Some people may qualify for the tax credit in the base, but that I think will only be partial as the batteries are imported. You also have income qualifications.
I think realistically you’re giving up very little. Modern vehicles brake spinning wheels to force power to gripping tires under the circumstances you describe. Quad motor is certainly superior but I don’t think there are a lot of circumstances where it’s going to make “all the difference” for 99.7% of buyers. And I don’t think 95% would even be able to tell the difference.
Love RJ's depth of knowledge around his product. Hard to imagine CEOs of other major OEMs going to the same level of depth with Sandy.
Yes, but Rivian is not a "major" OEM, it's a small start up . RJ is an engineer and Rivian has lots of backing. Great truck, great engineering, truely hope they survive into full profitable production.
Fantastic interview, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great interview 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks Sandy, for the followup with JR. Gave the first-look Rivian, at the factory with JR high marks for design, quality build, and performance. The second-look with your better-half was also impressive, but she could probably sell me sand in the desert😊 JR still owes her(...$) The only thing that concerned me about the Rivian was the 300+ suppliers, and JR went directly to that issue of 'verticle-integration'. JR's grown quite-a-bit with this EV, looks good, a bit worn, and certainly more confident/comfortable with his product. Ohhh, that metal plate in the inverter, separating the mother-daughter boards, is for heat-sink and electrostatic isolation. 2-motor performance speaks to the overall improvement in efficiency, ...despite the brushes plus ceramic bearings😃
That’s RJ
Absolutely love these videos! As a RS1 reservation holder for over a year I'm happy to know that I will have this as an option. Thanks RJ!
I want to know more about the dual motor traction strategies and what the trade offs there are moving from the quad motor in much much more detail than the marketing flier might suggest. Very few have actually talked about it that I've seen.
@15:00 or so, I think explains why I felt uneven surging on an R1S test drive over bumpy road - non ideal handoffs at moderate speeds (20 to 35 mph).
There was a lot of talk about the max pack last April with the dual motor, but nothing since then. I’ve been waiting patiently for the max pack configuration for four years because I tow. Please some updates on the max pack.
Good interview. 🇨🇦
Very Impressed with RJ, he is more then a CEO. Elon should take notice, this is how a interview works. He gives direct answers.
It’s RJs trade secret are you implying he steal it ? 😂
Elon also is of the direct answers.... have you ever listened to mary barra during an investor call, shes like never willing to give a real answer like shes a politician
What about thermal management for dc fast charging? Limiter to me wanting to buy one as I road trip a lot.
Very interesting.
Great interview and also appreciate the mini tear down discussion on the Dual motor.
RJ = Kent Clark
Sandy = Engineering Wizkid Of All Time.
I enjoy these discussions and look forward to the next.
Team Rivian, Kudos to you all.🎉
Kent Clark?
Clark Kent the nerdy reporter from New York, he worked for James Jamison I think I remember, lol
Why disconnect the rear drive instead of the front?
Front might be more efficient.
Just wondering, what happened to podcast with Kyle Conner ? Thanks
Kyle's episode will be out this week!
Always eager to listen to RJ's openness (maybe too much openess) and Sandy interrogation of how, when, and why Rivian is doing something.
It is major plus advertizing for Rivian to have Sandy praise it and it's engineering. RJ might as well be very open with Sandy and Monro is going to be doing a total tear down soon and will know all.
I do wish RJ and his team would put more time into finding a true solution to my R1T’s half shaft clicking, tocking, and persistent alignment issues. Also, when is my replacement Powered Tonneau cover coming?
For a first vehicle of a startup company it’s actually impressive good reliability. When you have GM failing on differentials after more than a century of assembly, that’s a problem.
Couldnt they solve the off road issue with dual motor by adding electronic lockers in the front and the rear? Technically with the quad motor you are spreading out 900 lb/ft between 4 wheels. With a dual motor you are spreading a tiny bit less torque but can spread that out to two wheels.
6:28
RJ: Thank you Sandy
How about cogging at low speed in the dual motor versus the quad motor?
Excellent!
Glad you liked it!
Do we want to see how the sausage is made? YES!
Really great interview both in terms of Sandy’s questions and RJ’s answers.
So is it confirmwed then that ALL Rivians are towable four-down (behind a motorhome), or only the new dual motor configuration?
No one??
Thanks Sandy, I wish RIVIAN success and get us some lower priced SUV’s PLEASE!!!
Your wish has been granted.
What about rear locker with dual motor??? Or any motor??
Can't wait for the off road test!
When will costs start to come down on these
They went to all the work to make the rear axle disconnect in order to make it slightly more efficient but they can’t put in a locker so that it’s actually useful in Rock Crawl mode??? And for the quad motor version it’s just software.
good discussions. The main issue with the Rivian in my mind, is their price point. The R1S is still relevant, but the R1T, I feel is over priced. I can't deny the attributes such as handling, power, off road capability, misc camping/overlanding add ons available, and range are worthy, but the things I can't get past as a consumer used to "full size" pick ups, is the interior space, frunk size/grill in the way, and total vehicle size. Not to mention limited outlets on the truck to only 110volt.... thus unable to use truck fully as a home back up generator..
To many folks, especially already driving a tacoma, ridgeline, maverick, colorado, or ranger, this will be a non-issue, but to other truck people, such as myself, I just cant down size (the American way!). That being said, I own a Ford Lightning , already put 35,000 flawless miles on it, and couldn't be happier! I am very impressed overall with Rivian as a company, RJ as a leader, the vertical integration, NACS adoption, and functionality of the vehicle... but now the price I feel is 10K too high, even for the dual motor variant. Good luck Rivian! Keep it up.
If, as it sounds like, they're selling all they can make, then the price isn't too high. To a company, the optimal price is whatever gives them the highest profit. And if Rivian plows that profit into expansion for now, it's a win-win.
@@concinnusExactly, that's basically what I was going to say in response. As long AS people are buying and they're growing sales, there's no reason to lower prices. Why would a company not take that extra profit. Especially a new car company that is ramping up production, they need every cent they can get.
It's impressive the technical abilities of these EV maker CEOs like RJ and Elon, especially when compared to paper pushers like Mary Barra and other legacy door stops. As an investor, it's not difficult to know where I should be investing and where I shouldn't.
❤ Sandy…”oh let’s jump to this”🤣
Like detective new-Columbo style...
Great content :-)
Thanks!
I have a R1T built in July of 2022 and I’m getting the impression that the early vehicles were over engineered, I hope that is a good thing!
Anyone else notice the R2 charging behind RJ in the lower left corner?
You should have asked him about what he is planning to do to finally make this operation profitable…
It never will. They’de have to double the price.
@ken-mb5cp don't say never. It's already a miracle that Rivian is making production vehicles I've seen driving around. Also, it took Tesla about 15 years to become profitable, and Amazon took about 12 years to get out of the red.
@@TheReal_JG Used to hear the same reasoning from Lucid stockholders. The guys making a beautiful truck and losing boatloads. Tesla cars were always sold at a profit even when the company was losing money. Bezos put all his profit back into the company but he never sold his books at a loss like Rivian is. It’s simple math.
@@ken-mb5cpRivian is making progress as they further ramp up production. I think the Lucid CEO isn't as good. He's taking over 300 million in salary while his company is failing. Lucid is trying everything, reducing prices, advertising and discounting. Their sales are struggling and not really growing, which is a really bad sign. I think a big advantage Rivian has over Lucid is they're targeting a much larger demographic of luxury EV SUVs & trucks. Versus Lucid targeting the luxury EV sedan market, which has a lot more competition and is a shrinking demographic.
Go RJ!!!
Sandy drives a Rivian and so does his wife. Good enough for me.
Seems to me like Rivian either needs to make these vehicles more affordable as they scale manufacturing, or start dipping their toes in the more casual consumer markets. By harnessing their brand name, and building cars with similar or superior interior quality and consistency, while reducing the off-roading features (expensive to manufacture, added complexity) in a new, metropolitan-style vehicle. 🤔
When is Rivian coming to Mexico? I am a big fan and I am interested...
They should make a real life competition with all the different EV and ICE off-road vehicles. Everything else is just marketing speech unless you can show that your product is superior in real life off-road situations
Sandy has had an AWD Rivian for awhile and has stated it's superiority to the Wrangler. Nuff said.
Today I learned that Clark Kent is the CEO of Rivian 😅
This dude is cool.When i go for the all electric vehicle it will be a Rivian
Zero chance I’d buy a Rivian so many better choices with dealer support and 10,000 fewer parts! I’m taking the under they are around in 5-10 years..
@@truthseeker111 cool
@@truthseeker111More likely Rivian will be around in the future than a lot of these legacy automakers. Rivian has good tech and are actually ahead of a lot of some legacy in EV sales or will soon pass them. And what vehicle has 10,000 fewer parts than a Rivian? Also it's usually a lot better not having to hassle with traditional dealerships. Tesla has shown that.
Satisfying that companies I follow have CEOs that are engineers these days. Good luck to Rivian, I think the R1T is safe from the Cybertruck. I am more wary of Hyundai's EV9 vs the R1s
Well, since all the motors are controlled by a computer, it shouldn't be hard to make a cluch engage and disengage smoothly. They make it sould like new tech.
LOL ... there are no clutch or gears in EV's .... Dude, really?
Why are people de-clutching (or disengaging), rather than simply using sprag clutches?
What is Clarke Kent/Christopher Reeve doing on this podcast?
great CEO
AWESOME!
"One Other Company" - that's Tesla, Sandy!
The base model is 4.5 seconds, what has been tested is the dual performance model, not the base.
RJ kinda has a Clark Kent thing goin' on.
I want to hear from your wife get her on the show
Remember Columbo ? Just when they think they've got away with it - Sandy fires a leading question, as if it's "off the cuff" - Sandy is looking for clues, and knows where to probe for engineering mis-steps, and where cost / manufacturing efficiencies can be made ....
🇺🇸
Two of my favorites in the auto world
Kinda wish they could build at scale and more affordable.
They're ramping up to scale. It takes time, they are new. I guarantee prices will come down as they increase production. EV tech just keeps getting better and cheaper, it's great.
What happened to Corey
RJ Scaringe is the real-life Clark Kent
Haha I was thinking the same thing!
Man knows his stuff,now if only they could increase profitability
This guy looks just like clark kent
RJ is a true MVP here unlike Elons grifts and riding on the credits of real engineers you can tell that RJ knows what hes talking about and keeps it real without making up vaporware like "full self driving" cars that can make you a profit within a year. I really love this guy for being so open, technical and honest.
There is only a genius in the EV world his name is Elon, and so far no other genius has emerged yet. The Cyber truck will steam roll whatever Rivian will come up with. Do you want to bet? we talk again in about 24 months..
Clueless comment.
@@lighthousesaunders7242 Thank you for your cluefull comment.
RJ should mention Rivian by name a bit more as I didn’t really know what brand he was representing.
The flat prairie of Central Illinois over his shoulder was the only reason I knew. :)
Read the title of the video you click on next time before you make silly comments.
He looks like Clark Kent 😅
I like Scaringe and think he is next to Elon Musk in the top tier of EV makers (and a lot more likeable and reasonable than Elon!). My prediction is that Tesla and Rivian are going to be the two most successful player in the EV industry.
Tests show Tesla underperforms estimates
Despite his appointment being canceled, Ponsin brought his car to a service center in Santa Clara, California. He told Reuters that the visit "lasted 10 minutes" and that technicians "didn't even look at the car physically." A technician at the center told Ponsin his car was fine.
Reuters was told by a source that Tesla recently stopped using the Nevada-based diversion team and instead now has range cases handled by "service advisors in an office in Utah."
In April, Car and Driver reported that its testing showed Tesla "pursues an impressive figure for its window stickers, and ends up returning real-world results that are on average two times as far off the label value as most EVs." BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche "typically provide a relatively conservative range figure, allowing us to meet or even at times exceed the range numbers in Car and Driver's real-world tests." As a result, "400 miles of stated range for a Tesla and 300 miles for a Porsche is pretty much the same number at real highway speeds."
Not my favorite conversation. Has me wondering why Cory is stepping away.
Some PhD-ing from MIT-ing going on :p
I’m sorry sandy but torque is lbs ft not ft lbs , ft lbs is work done
Rivian has some run way still to go . If they could come out with this vehicle mid 2024 they might just make it .
It's going to be delivered this summer...
Maybe actually watch the video before commenting? They're already delivering the dual motor.
Bezos can pound sand.
A great truck that loses money.
Rivian is a day late and a dollar short. Once Cyber Truck launches/ this co is D O N E.
Wag Nyo na gayahin yang motor engine ng Tesla wala yan..ilang taon Nayan hindi omangat angat
Now if only Rivian can get their stock moving so I can get my losses back.
@@dmomcilovic9185 I never expected it to be the next Tesla, but they entered the EV truck market first and that counts for something.
glad to hear from rj. hate to see sandy.
Yeah, make your own lubes, cus hundreds of companies make every lube available...not practical....
Tests show Tesla underperforms estimates
Despite his appointment being canceled, Ponsin brought his car to a service center in Santa Clara, California. He told Reuters that the visit "lasted 10 minutes" and that technicians "didn't even look at the car physically." A technician at the center told Ponsin his car was fine.
Reuters was told by a source that Tesla recently stopped using the Nevada-based diversion team and instead now has range cases handled by "service advisors in an office in Utah."
In April, Car and Driver reported that its testing showed Tesla "pursues an impressive figure for its window stickers, and ends up returning real-world results that are on average two times as far off the label value as most EVs." BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche "typically provide a relatively conservative range figure, allowing us to meet or even at times exceed the range numbers in Car and Driver's real-world tests." As a result, "400 miles of stated range for a Tesla and 300 miles for a Porsche is pretty much the same number at real highway speeds."