The man from Hull won this one Jon..... the plastic bottle let you down. Your expertise is obviously out of his league ... so , make sure u win the next one mate ...
This contest is a lot closer than last year's. I greatly prefer this format, where there was mutual respect for the choices and no one attempted to insult or disparage the choices of the other. Great content and great gear as always!
I liked this format but i also liked the banter from last year. I would suggest upping the budget a little (150$ US?) and say 90$ limit between multitool and Torch) and the balance on the rest?
Watching this video, I noticed there is mutual respect for each other compared to the last budget video. I must admit the last video had an edge of sauciness between both of you which seemed to work. It was entertainment vs a straight review. Now as we know Jon does an excellent job of reviewing, but every now and again a little comedic interaction between you and Jamie is.....well fun to watch. On a side note, I used to work in a NYC rock club and saw Iron Maiden many times. Great gear choices from both you .
Thanks for doing a great research on budget EDC gear. It is always fun watching you two doing a battle with a twinkle. My favorites have been Jamie's pouch and Jon's flashlight. Well done, both of you, two thumbs up 🙂
Glad to see Sofirn getting some representation on the channel. I have one of their lanterns for camping. it's compact, but has dozens of features and brightness modes. I can even set color temperature as well as brightness.
Jon, you never cease to amaze me with the items you find and put into your EDC kits and the very sound logical explination and justification for your choices! Keep up the good work!
Who won?? Short answer: Jon Long answer: Wallet: Jon Light: Jon (lots of experience with both and the TS32 has issues turning on accidentally) Multitool:Jon (not a Fan of the M2 personally) Wild card: honestly like both...but I have 3x hoto drivers and love them.
I've had the crazy horse wallet for around two years now and it's great, I keep a fisher space pen and the spyderco grasshopper in the larger pouch/compartment and it ages amazingly 💪🏼
Jamie's take on things is always fun. I love it when he pops up on here. Rustic is my thing so I'm drawn to Jon's choice of wallet. The flashlights are too close to choose so I'd buy both and use them interchangeably. I have to go with Jamie's multitool; the scissors are what tipped the scales for me. I see the benefits of both mystery items but can't make a choice since, for me, neither one would have a place in my EDC. To both of you - Brilliant job! I hope to see more of these head-to-head videos.
I call you both winners for finding gear under the budget! I like Jon's flashlight for EDC carry because of its size, but prefer Jamie's wallet for its slimness. Good choices by both.
I really enjoy watching you two together, Jon. Your tandem makes everything even more enjoyable to watch. Great video as always, Jon. My regards to Jamie.
Cool stuff as always. I had to immediately buy the Hoto Screwdriver Set via your link. I loved the look of that and can't wait to add it to my Maxpedition Mini EDC kit. Very neat and super practical looking little screwdriver set, plus it's as cheap as chips. Thanks for that.
I also appreciate the non-confrontational approach, well done. Torches MUST have 1lm mode so Jamie. Crappy scissors vs no flat screwdriver-at least you could re-profile the silly nail file to a screwdriver so Jamie again. I love the screwdriver but the bottle is also excellent so Jamie by a hair. Jamie's wallet is a little too dressy for me so Jon. Overall I give the day to Jamie by a much smaller margin than last year. Overall winner-the viewers. Thanks
I have two sofirn flashlights. Both batteries crapped out after a few charges. Luckily, replacement rechargeable CR123A batteries are quite cheap even from the major quality brands. With proper batteries Sofirn flashlights are great value.
Doing Jon vs Jamie on different budgets would be a very interesting video idea. It also gives good exposure to varied EDC gear which is also nice. Awesome video
BEST ONE YET!!! it was very difficult to choose but I ended up choosing Jon’s because I would actually use his wallet more since I feel like I could get stuff out of it easier and the flashlight in my opinion is less bulky, great quality, has more use ability, and I love the charging aspect of it plus you can have a AA for a back up, fantastic for random emergency events. Lastly the bottle I would actually carry it over the screw driver but I am going to get the screw driver because it looks amazing. James won on the multi tool for sure and I can vouch for the roxon I carry the m3 and it’s my favorite all in all great work guys.
I love both wallets. To carry on the tradition of letting John know that he's not allowed to carry a proper wallet, I just want to chime in and say that the Crazy Horse is, technically, a "bindle." I'm wondering, could the card holder actually fit in 9ne of the bindle's pocket folds? Seems like a marriage made in organization heaven!
I liked all of the gear except for the drinking bottle. I like flat drinking bottles as well, for the reasons that you stated. I have bought several stainless hip flasks of varying sizes for around $5 to $8 NZD. So I can take whichever one I think I will need or take 2 if I need more water. They fit really well in a flat sling and don't seem to leak. I have also found out recently that they are great for little kids to drink out of as the water doesn't pour out too fast.
These videos are always a ton of fun to watch. I like having options!! Have you ever talked about your time pieces? I've seen you with a Rolex subby, but I may have missed you talking about the black one that's on your wrist in most videos. A Watch video maybe?
Great review, especially the flashlights. Both great torches and I have them both. The Sofirn is great for distance, brightness and runtime but the Acebeam is smaller, lighter and the one in my pocket (and has better colour rendition). Equal scores and thanks to both!
I've got the A6 memo and it is great, fits perfectly in a sling or in the backpocket. Kinda hard to deep clean, so make sure you rinse it regularly so it doesn't get dirty.
I bought a water pouch instead - fits inside my little handbag or really anywhere (even a big jacket pocket) - has 0.5l - and no problems keeping it clean. The one I got is Hydropak Stow - which has an internal lid - so nothing from outside can go back. And it's only 20€ 😇🤗
Great contest again you two. Both great to watch. I enjoyed this one as much as the last one. I find that the purchases are very surpirsing and you two must have put in a lot of time and effort into sourcing them as Amazon can often be a minefield of stuff. Really enjoy them and look forward to many more to come.
Really enjoyed your EDC Budget Showdown 2023, Jon and Jamie! As always - entertaining and informative. There are many items that you presented that I want to research further; and I appreciate that you both were fair in evaluating the items for their Pros & Cons. Frankly, I felt that you both were winners on this one. Jon's Crazy Horse Wallet lacks RFID for credit cards, but I see that it has potential for several other EDC carry options. Liking the Sofirn SC32 over the ACEBEAM H16 (for EDC due to increased lumens & size). ACEBEAM is compact and versatile with the headlamp option (but I'm not liking the lower lumen nor the only orange color option for the headband - black or some other subtle color would be more preferable). Multi-tools presented were a bit of a tie (in terms of Pros & Cons). Mystery items were both hits and worthy of further research for purchase. Thanks & Cheers to you both!
Ok a tough call, but I think Jon has it. And the water bottle doubles as a flask, and a hood whisky or bourbon is a great morale booster. I do like the multitool and the folding wallet. Good job guys!
Excellent contest. To be honest, i believe i will have to watch it once more before i can cast my vote. This is a very close contest! Well done gentlemen!! Thank you!
So entertaining! I choose last year's Jon's wallet, fantastic, fits all. Thank you both of you for the show (last year and this year), hope to see more ;)
This is great! gives an opportunity as well to those small up-and-coming brands to be showcased to the people. Not a lot of EDC content creators would bat an eye on these things and would rather spend x100 the amount for fidget stuff. Liked that practicality is always the main focused on each video! Good stuff Jon (and Jamie).
That Crazy Horse Wallet is the best item in the whole video. I'd also take that Acebeam flashlight... It's compact and seems very practical. Btw, maybe you should review some lighters. It's a good idea to carry one, especially on trips in the nature.
Great as usual ! The screwdriver is impressive and functional !!! You are both very close, you both have useful items, at a good price. The water bottle is interesting and the Swiss Tech at this price is amazing. Great choices !
That Hoto lives in my rucksack and I absolutely love it! Got it for myself as a birthday present back in march, and I do not regret my purchase one bit.
Hey! I’ve been using that crazy horse wallet for years! I tell people about it all the time! Glad you got to check it out. It’s a beautiful and functional wallet.
I’ve a Sofirn head torch that is excellent! I also got a couple Bibury pliers based multi tools recently. One that is very Wavy and one that Surged into my basket. Fit and finish is not up to LM standard but I got both for under £65. Will leave the Surge style one at work to abuse.
Thanks Guys! The Acebeam flashlight is the one I will get, it is great to know you can extend the use in any emergency by i=using some standard AA or another rechargeable one. John you might like Stanley ecycle cleanable recycled flask because its flat and you can clean it. Now it only holds 200ml so there might be an opportunity to use it
I have the HOTO screwdriver, and I have found that the bits with the smallest crossectional tip area do NOT stay in the operational tip of the tool, because the magnet inside is too weak! I have found this very annoying. Next, I have tried carrying a Thrunite flashlight with an 18650 battery around in my pants pockets, cargo pockets, and vest pockets, and it's too large and heavy. I always have a Lumintop AA2.0 in my shirt pocket, which fits perfectly, and using a 3.7 V battery, is both useful and comfortable and delivers ~ 650 L. So, I would prefer Jon's small, dual use flashlight/headlamp. Those are just my observations. And while I have tried to find a big, FLAT, plastic bottle to carry with my EDC bag, I agree that 29 pounds is a bit over the top, certainly not in my meager price range.
First off, that 'snap together' wallet is really cool. I make minimalist leather wallets as a hobby. That one is something new to try. Second, does that magnetic screwdriver thing have bits small enough for eyeglasses? Last but not least, I can see Jon filling that flat 'water' bottle with a nice amber liquid and enjoying a day in the park. Awesome vid guys.
I'll let Jamie respond on the screwdriver - I'm sure it would though. I did take it to a festival at the weekend and convince security it wasn't full of Vodka!
@@JonGadget Ohhh, vodka. Ok, not the amber liquid from Scotland. And don't bother Jamie (other than to tell him some rando in the comments said 'get a haircut'). I went on Amazon and found it, and it says it can do eyeglasses. I should receive it tomorrow. It will fit nicely in my man-purse. Cheers from Toronto.
The screwdriver does have some really tiny bits, but if it doesnt have the correct ones for you glasses you could easily get the correct bits from Ifixit and they will fit inside.
Easy win for Jamie for me. His screwdriver set is fantastic, I ordered one immediately. I also prefer his wallet, I have one very similar and already have a Roxon M2. Incidentally it’s very easy to make the Roxon UK legal by breaking the end of the liner lock off. The blade still works fine without a lock.
Love these match ups. I have a couple of Sofrins... the build quality always leaves me a bit worried, especially around the power button and the UI requires so much clicking, it gets a bit maddening. Their IF23 is a power bank and side light with color, but it gets over 110F during use, the whole body. So just check on their different products, they are hit and miss for sure. I keep a HOTO screwdriver in my work bag, super handy. I have the Roxon, mine has bad build quality and some of the tools just kind of flip out, can't tighten to fix, would probably need to add a washer or something. But the scissors are great.
I really like the little brother of the Roxon you showed. The smaller one has scissors as the only middle tool, but it has a toothpick, tweezers, and a pop out eyeglass screwdriver. It also has the bit kit. And it’s $20. I really like it.
Really enjoyed this video, as I always enjoy all the other videos you put out. Had a good laugh when the Memobottle was placed on the table. 😂 I actually bought 2 in that A6 model, and get the same reaction whenever I say how much it costs. Nevertheless, the Memobottle is a great ice breaker and conversation topic as I always take into meetings as it goes flush in my hand with a notebook / agenda, and creates less bulk in a pouch, backpack or cargo pants pocket. See you in the next video. Keep well. Greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹. 😉
*_The wallet:_* Jon's wallet looks better. I like the little DIY element to it. But in terms of something that you're going to carry in your pocket... Way too bulky. It's 5(!!!) layers of leather thick, and that's before you even put something in it. Jamie's wallet is just way slicker and more practical. I'll give this one to Jamie with the caveat that Jon's wallet is pretty nice. *_The torch:_* I like the headlight... but it's of limited use. There were one or two times when I could have used a headtorch, but got along without one just fine. So Jamie wins this one again. *_The multitool:_* I'd disqualify both of you since both tools have locking blades which means they're not suitable for EDC. But that's just an UK thing, so let's skip over it. While the Wave is definitely a tried and tested design, I am a bit apprehensive given the provenance of Jon's pick. From the paracord test it's clear that the tool looks like a Wave but functions nothing like it. Also, it's going to be pretty heavy, I bet. So, sorry Jon, this one narrowly goes to Jamie on the basis of "that doesn't look very reliable". *_Mystery item:_* A very expensive weird looking bottle? Not for me. Jamie's screwdriver wins hands down. Sorry Jon...
🍻Jon's, although it was 50/50 with the unusual and useful flat bottle tipping the scales for me. Jamie's wallet over Jon's, but Jon's flashlight over Jamie's, etc.
18650 flashlight is a huge win The screwdriver is awesome as well...one thing you didn't touch on is the back turn BUT that makes it also easier to screw/un-screw something Also the snap wallet is awesome
It's a tough pick this time. I think Jamie's wallet would be preferred and the screwdriver is very appealing I think I'd take Jon's light and the bottle is very appealing. I just generally can't pick a multitool at this price range they all feel a bit too cheap. I think either save up for something a bit better or just go without a pocket multitool in the budget range.
24:33 At 15£ the screwdriver would be fine but now it's 22£ discounted from 30£. But the sale is probably fake since even on Amazon Germany it's 25£ and no discount.
everything in jons but i have the smaller roxon multi and love it but wish i had bought the bigger one with the pliers as well. thanks boys keep up the good work. i have purchased a coupke things based on your reccomendations and have yet to be let down.
I bought the HOTO screwdriver last year. It’s ok. Too slick to hold on to. So I put some heat shrink tubing around it. And don’t dare drop it. The magnets are not strong enough to keep it together and the bits will go everywhere!!! Overall not a bad precision screwdriver. I also found the IFixit bits fit much tighter in the HOTO screwdriver
i personally got the ekster wallet aluminum but swapped the plate for the angryjoeshow for bottle opener. carries 5 cards plus 3 on one side plus 2 on the other side plus a 50aud note and a bandaid. bandaid comes in clutch when im not carrying a altoids like tin with first aid stuff. my multitool is the leatherman wingman. knife, pliers and phillips i use most. mainly the pliers and philips honestly for building fixtures at work when needed to. recently got the rovyvon a5 g3 with the glow in dark body which actually is super handy and that aux light especially since it can flash red if my rear bicycle light dies i have this to clip onto it. thanks to your video on the rovyvon lights. its smaller than expected. if i had to throw in a random item its between the airpress pen or the slice 10495 model the one from excessorize me since i work retail cutting boxes is a breeze. will say on my second pair since i lost my first one (also happened to the first pair) after a year or so the spring broke so it doesnt auto flip out anymore but can just flick the wrist and works fine. still on the same blade after 2 half years now doesnt gunk up on tape. still cuts cardboard easily and sharp enough to cut plastic straps and plastic wrap. try not to drop it on the tip as my first pair did snap a small piece of the tip still useable for tape and half effective on everything else after that so did flip the blade on that pair before losing the knife. the airpress pen so far has been the only pen that still works somehow doesnt gunk up the tip with pocket lint unlike most generic pens and is pretty small. this is definitely not budget friendly but just want to put it out there for anyones inspiration and from personal experience took a while to find these particular tools and things that realllly work for me.
I don’t think I can actually pick a winner this year!! For wallets, I would chose Jon’s, loved both flashlights, Jamie wins the multitool, and I own both of the mystery items and love them as well! Well played to the both of you and great video as always!!
Useful video, as usual. About the MEMOBOTTLE, it's a very nice invention, because flat and easy to carry in the pouch (I bought the TOMTOC white, after seeing it on your video a year ago), but it is anything but a new invention: our great-great-grandfathers, as the western films of the 1930s show us, used to carried flat flasks of whiskey etc. in their jacket pockets. I really thought I'd buy it to fill it not with unnoble water, which causes rust, but with a precious Macallan de Lalique: indeed, a precious drink deserves a genuine container.
New to the Channel. Really enjoyed the video, the products, the banter...all around very nice. And ive already put in a order for the Acebeam torch. I liked it. And had I not just gotten a nice little "tactical" (that's what it says on the box..lol) I'd definitely give that 2nd wallet a go. Its a very clever design I think.
What stood out for me: Jon: Crazy Horse Wallet - even though I actually personally own a (different style of) Vaultskin wallet! Jamie: Roxon M2 & Hoto Screwdriver Set - I like these so much I will be buying them. The flashlights aren't really comparable as Sofirn is a definite EDC but is a headlamp generally EDC? Guess Jamie wins this too. Sorry Jon.
@@JonGadget Actually, I've just found out the Roxon M2 has a locking blade, so no good for EDC. I'm going for the Nextool Mini instead. It's smaller but that means it can go on a keyring and, if the scissors are good, it might even replace the Leatherman Micra which currently resides on mine.
I have the Acebeam and really like it. It’s not my EDC (I have a Rovyvon for that), but it fills my need for a bright, hands free light when checking on my animals after dark. I was curious about this style of light, and it was on sale for about $23USD. “Dual fuel” is a bonus, as is the headband. I have found that it doesn’t always want to shut off with a long press, but wants to keep cycling through different light levels. This is a new development that I keep hoping is user error, but it is frustrating.
Easy win for Jamie, really good torch. Nice looking wallet. Great pocketable edc multitool and a fairly nice screwdriver. Against John's, clone tool, weird wallet, 35 quid for a mad plastic bottle only thing that even stands a glimmer of a chance is the torch. Sorry John but you've lost the plot 😂 Well plaid Jamie 👏 🎉 Great video though as usual guys. Thanks for the upload 🍻
I think I would go with Jamie's picks except for the wallet. I like Jon's wallet more, kinda unique. And I think you could slip in a small flashlight or knife/multi-tool inside. Not sure though but you could update us, Jon? But the multi-tool, specially the flashlight, the award goes to Jamie. That SC32 is a great flashlight IMHO. Never tried anything from Roxon but if the scissors cuts that good then it's a YES for me. Hope you could feature something from NEXTORCH and NEXTOOL in your future episodes, Jon. Love watching you two together. Manila says HI.
It was Jamie's Hoto screwdriver choice that put it over the top. So much so, that I purchased one immediately after. (Also the Iron Maiden shirt gave have him bonus points)
I'm a Lincolnshire lass in Lithuania. Thanks for including the Crazy Horse Craft wallet. I'd never heard of them before, so I got excited! Hope one day I will support this local business! The wallet's not really my thing, but I like the look of some of their other stuff as I got intrigued. :)
I’m a big sofirn fan and EDC one of their lights but for budget I have to go with the Acebeam. Like the SwissTech Multitool (couldn’t find it on Amazon). Like both wallets 👍🏽 Have to go with magnetic screwdriver for bonus item.
The sofirn sc32 with the SST-40 emitter does have a bit of a green tint in the moonlight mode and a low CRI. I would recommend the SC32 HCRI it has a 519a emitter higher CRI and a better tint to the light overall but you sacrifice 700 lumens on turbo for the cri and tint.
Every single item showcased is worth considering. That's a great video and a tough competition! I have a problem with the A6 bottle. As it is meant to go in your bag, smooth plastic is not a good choice in my opinion. If you fill it with cold water, vapor will condensate on it, and your gear will get wet. Well, it's a problem for me at least, here 30°C is too common and humidity is 60% and above 🥵
Sofirm all the way (Wurkkos, the subbrand this year has much interesting flashlights, TS11 for example). Better user menu, better light. Better form factor choosed on Acebeam. Roxxon has better steel than Swisstech, smaller, but the scissors are more used tool also, so.... Wallets: tie. I like more the thinner, but the Lituanian has a better story and it is more usable. Surprise item: I like the bottle, but this form makes it more brittle, and I can use any bottle anyway, it is not so important. So, Jamie wins.
man this is a tough one. for me it comes down to between the bottle and the screwdriver. I really love the screwdriver and will probably get one, but if I couldn't carry anything but what's in these kits and a bag, I'd go with Jon's because I drink a ton of water when I'm out and about, but I don't generally use a small bit screwdriver when I'm out of the house
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The man from Hull won this one Jon..... the plastic bottle let you down.
Your expertise is obviously out of his league ... so , make sure u win the next one mate ...
I'd like to see a challenge in which each of you needs to put together a kit for the other person to carry for a week.
Jon for the WIN!
This contest is a lot closer than last year's. I greatly prefer this format, where there was mutual respect for the choices and no one attempted to insult or disparage the choices of the other. Great content and great gear as always!
Great feedback - thanks for that 👍
Sir I agree with this comment on every level. I enjoy your content.. and yes still very jealous of your gold wave +
I liked this format but i also liked the banter from last year. I would suggest upping the budget a little (150$ US?) and say 90$ limit between multitool and Torch) and the balance on the rest?
I think I speak for everyone when I say we want more of these!!!
Watching this video, I noticed there is mutual respect for each other compared to the last budget video. I must admit the last video had an edge of sauciness between both of you which seemed to work. It was entertainment vs a straight review. Now as we know Jon does an excellent job of reviewing, but every now and again a little comedic interaction between you and Jamie is.....well fun to watch. On a side note, I used to work in a NYC rock club and saw Iron Maiden many times. Great gear choices from both you .
Thanks for the great feedback 👍
Always trust someone wearing an IRON MAIDEN shirt; they obviously know quality.
Really? 🤣
But they're English so....
Jon has no music taste at all
LOL 😃@@JonGadget
@@JonGadget😂😂😂 Jaimie
Thanks for doing a great research on budget EDC gear. It is always fun watching you two doing a battle with a twinkle. My favorites have been Jamie's pouch and Jon's flashlight. Well done, both of you, two thumbs up 🙂
Thanks for watching!
Glad to see Sofirn getting some representation on the channel. I have one of their lanterns for camping. it's compact, but has dozens of features and brightness modes. I can even set color temperature as well as brightness.
Jon, you never cease to amaze me with the items you find and put into your EDC kits and the very sound logical explination and justification for your choices! Keep up the good work!
Thank you 🙏
Who won??
Short answer: Jon
Long answer:
Wallet: Jon
Light: Jon (lots of experience with both and the TS32 has issues turning on accidentally)
Multitool:Jon (not a Fan of the M2 personally)
Wild card: honestly like both...but I have 3x hoto drivers and love them.
😊👍
I've had the crazy horse wallet for around two years now and it's great, I keep a fisher space pen and the spyderco grasshopper in the larger pouch/compartment and it ages amazingly 💪🏼
Good to know!
Jamie's take on things is always fun. I love it when he pops up on here. Rustic is my thing so I'm drawn to Jon's choice of wallet. The flashlights are too close to choose so I'd buy both and use them interchangeably. I have to go with Jamie's multitool; the scissors are what tipped the scales for me. I see the benefits of both mystery items but can't make a choice since, for me, neither one would have a place in my EDC. To both of you - Brilliant job! I hope to see more of these head-to-head videos.
Thanks for the great feedback Linda 👍
I call you both winners for finding gear under the budget! I like Jon's flashlight for EDC carry because of its size, but prefer Jamie's wallet for its slimness. Good choices by both.
I really enjoy watching you two together, Jon. Your tandem makes everything even more enjoyable to watch. Great video as always, Jon. My regards to Jamie.
I love these head to head showdowns. Both have their places and their points both good and bad.
Cool stuff as always. I had to immediately buy the Hoto Screwdriver Set via your link. I loved the look of that and can't wait to add it to my Maxpedition Mini EDC kit. Very neat and super practical looking little screwdriver set, plus it's as cheap as chips. Thanks for that.
Great choice from Jamie there 👍
I have the full set of memobottles both in plastic and metal and love them, I recommend getting the sleeve for it.
I also appreciate the non-confrontational approach, well done. Torches MUST have 1lm mode so Jamie. Crappy scissors vs no flat screwdriver-at least you could re-profile the silly nail file to a screwdriver so Jamie again. I love the screwdriver but the bottle is also excellent so Jamie by a hair. Jamie's wallet is a little too dressy for me so Jon. Overall I give the day to Jamie by a much smaller margin than last year. Overall winner-the viewers. Thanks
Great to see a Sofirn flashlight, got myself quite a few of those, also like Wurkkos a lot (they are somewhat related). Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
I have two sofirn flashlights. Both batteries crapped out after a few charges. Luckily, replacement rechargeable CR123A batteries are quite cheap even from the major quality brands. With proper batteries Sofirn flashlights are great value.
Doing Jon vs Jamie on different budgets would be a very interesting video idea. It also gives good exposure to varied EDC gear which is also nice. Awesome video
Jon, just finished with the IF23...it's one of the best lights I've ever seen!
Two Go Go Gadget's rocking it out together. 👍👍
The swisstech actually isn't the same if you get the one with the long tools on opposite side. 7cr on blade, 5 and 3c on the rest of the tool btw.
Thanks Dom 👍
If Jamie has even a single card in the front of his wallet, it will cover the pull tab for the main sleeve.
Love seeing two friends battle it out, an still respect each other. The cheap Travel Lambo wallet is also a great wallet!
Roxon, Hoto and Acebeam for me. I like the idea of Jon's wallet but it's still too bulky IMO. I also don't think I'd ever use that waterbottle
BEST ONE YET!!! it was very difficult to choose but I ended up choosing Jon’s because I would actually use his wallet more since I feel like I could get stuff out of it easier and the flashlight in my opinion is less bulky, great quality, has more use ability, and I love the charging aspect of it plus you can have a AA for a back up, fantastic for random emergency events. Lastly the bottle I would actually carry it over the screw driver but I am going to get the screw driver because it looks amazing. James won on the multi tool for sure and I can vouch for the roxon I carry the m3 and it’s my favorite all in all great work guys.
I love both wallets. To carry on the tradition of letting John know that he's not allowed to carry a proper wallet, I just want to chime in and say that the Crazy Horse is, technically, a "bindle."
I'm wondering, could the card holder actually fit in 9ne of the bindle's pocket folds? Seems like a marriage made in organization heaven!
I liked all of the gear except for the drinking bottle. I like flat drinking bottles as well, for the reasons that you stated. I have bought several stainless hip flasks of varying sizes for around $5 to $8 NZD. So I can take whichever one I think I will need or take 2 if I need more water. They fit really well in a flat sling and don't seem to leak. I have also found out recently that they are great for little kids to drink out of as the water doesn't pour out too fast.
These videos are always a ton of fun to watch. I like having options!! Have you ever talked about your time pieces? I've seen you with a Rolex subby, but I may have missed you talking about the black one that's on your wrist in most videos. A Watch video maybe?
Great review, especially the flashlights. Both great torches and I have them both. The Sofirn is great for distance, brightness and runtime but the Acebeam is smaller, lighter and the one in my pocket (and has better colour rendition). Equal scores and thanks to both!
I've got the A6 memo and it is great, fits perfectly in a sling or in the backpocket.
Kinda hard to deep clean, so make sure you rinse it regularly so it doesn't get dirty.
I bought a water pouch instead - fits inside my little handbag or really anywhere (even a big jacket pocket) - has 0.5l - and no problems keeping it clean.
The one I got is Hydropak Stow - which has an internal lid - so nothing from outside can go back. And it's only 20€ 😇🤗
Good afternoon Jon Thank you and Jamie for a great show. I believe that it a even draw between yourself and Jamie.
Good to hear - thank you 👍
I love the video. Y’all picked great products with out them being too similar. And giving the viewer different options and with different use cases.
Great contest again you two. Both great to watch. I enjoyed this one as much as the last one. I find that the purchases are very surpirsing and you two must have put in a lot of time and effort into sourcing them as Amazon can often be a minefield of stuff.
Really enjoy them and look forward to many more to come.
Really enjoyed your EDC Budget Showdown 2023, Jon and Jamie!
As always - entertaining and informative.
There are many items that you presented that I want to research further; and I appreciate that you both were fair in evaluating the items for their Pros & Cons.
Frankly, I felt that you both were winners on this one.
Jon's Crazy Horse Wallet lacks RFID for credit cards, but I see that it has potential for several other EDC carry options.
Liking the Sofirn SC32 over the ACEBEAM H16 (for EDC due to increased lumens & size).
ACEBEAM is compact and versatile with the headlamp option (but I'm not liking the lower lumen nor the only orange color option for the headband - black or some other subtle color would be more preferable).
Multi-tools presented were a bit of a tie (in terms of Pros & Cons).
Mystery items were both hits and worthy of further research for purchase.
Thanks & Cheers to you both!
Great feedback - thank you
Ok a tough call, but I think Jon has it. And the water bottle doubles as a flask, and a hood whisky or bourbon is a great morale booster. I do like the multitool and the folding wallet. Good job guys!
Great stuff!
Excellent contest. To be honest, i believe i will have to watch it once more before i can cast my vote. This is a very close contest! Well done gentlemen!! Thank you!
Hello Jon, it seems that you now preffer Venture sling more than Lite sling, what made you switch to it over the Lite sling?
So entertaining! I choose last year's Jon's wallet, fantastic, fits all. Thank you both of you for the show (last year and this year), hope to see more ;)
This is great! gives an opportunity as well to those small up-and-coming brands to be showcased to the people. Not a lot of EDC content creators would bat an eye on these things and would rather spend x100 the amount for fidget stuff. Liked that practicality is always the main focused on each video! Good stuff Jon (and Jamie).
I’ve had a Sofrin SCH-35 Pro for a few years. I’ve paid a lot more for other lights, but always come back to the Sofrin.
That Crazy Horse Wallet is the best item in the whole video. I'd also take that Acebeam flashlight... It's compact and seems very practical.
Btw, maybe you should review some lighters. It's a good idea to carry one, especially on trips in the nature.
Great feedback and suggestion 👍
Great as usual ! The screwdriver is impressive and functional !!! You are both very close, you both have useful items, at a good price. The water bottle is interesting and the Swiss Tech at this price is amazing. Great choices !
That Hoto lives in my rucksack and I absolutely love it! Got it for myself as a birthday present back in march, and I do not regret my purchase one bit.
Hey! I’ve been using that crazy horse wallet for years! I tell people about it all the time! Glad you got to check it out. It’s a beautiful and functional wallet.
I’ve a Sofirn head torch that is excellent! I also got a couple Bibury pliers based multi tools recently. One that is very Wavy and one that Surged into my basket. Fit and finish is not up to LM standard but I got both for under £65. Will leave the Surge style one at work to abuse.
Great feedback
Great battle. Loved the choices. Fun to watch the two of you together.
50/50! Jon's water bottle and flashlight, Jamie's wallet and multi-tool!
Jamie with wallet and mystery item. Jon with flashlight and multi-tool. Tie! Cheers 👐
Great!
Thanks Guys! The Acebeam flashlight is the one I will get, it is great to know you can extend the use in any emergency by i=using some standard AA or another rechargeable one. John you might like Stanley ecycle cleanable recycled flask because its flat and you can clean it. Now it only holds 200ml so there might be an opportunity to use it
He did get the grey one though, higher lumen output but at the expense of CRI. The black version has a High CRI Nichia 519A but max out at 600lm.
Thanks for info - will check it out.
i ordered the crazy horse craft wallet and i love it. thanks for the recommendation!
I have the HOTO screwdriver, and I have found that the bits with the smallest crossectional tip area do NOT stay in the operational tip of the tool, because the magnet inside is too weak! I have found this very annoying.
Next, I have tried carrying a Thrunite flashlight with an 18650 battery around in my pants pockets, cargo pockets, and vest pockets, and it's too large and heavy. I always have a Lumintop AA2.0 in my shirt pocket, which fits perfectly, and using a 3.7 V battery, is both useful and comfortable and delivers ~ 650 L. So, I would prefer Jon's small, dual use flashlight/headlamp. Those are just my observations. And while I have tried to find a big, FLAT, plastic bottle to carry with my EDC bag, I agree that 29 pounds is a bit over the top, certainly not in my meager price range.
First off, that 'snap together' wallet is really cool. I make minimalist leather wallets as a hobby. That one is something new to try. Second, does that magnetic screwdriver thing have bits small enough for eyeglasses? Last but not least, I can see Jon filling that flat 'water' bottle with a nice amber liquid and enjoying a day in the park. Awesome vid guys.
I'll let Jamie respond on the screwdriver - I'm sure it would though. I did take it to a festival at the weekend and convince security it wasn't full of Vodka!
@@JonGadget Ohhh, vodka. Ok, not the amber liquid from Scotland. And don't bother Jamie (other than to tell him some rando in the comments said 'get a haircut'). I went on Amazon and found it, and it says it can do eyeglasses. I should receive it tomorrow. It will fit nicely in my man-purse.
Cheers from Toronto.
The screwdriver does have some really tiny bits, but if it doesnt have the correct ones for you glasses you could easily get the correct bits from Ifixit and they will fit inside.
@@JonGadget Ok thanks.
Easy win for Jamie for me. His screwdriver set is fantastic, I ordered one immediately. I also prefer his wallet, I have one very similar and already have a Roxon M2. Incidentally it’s very easy to make the Roxon UK legal by breaking the end of the liner lock off. The blade still works fine without a lock.
I prefer Jamie's choices, and actually I just ordered that Roxon and the screwdriver kit. Good show guys!!
Love these match ups. I have a couple of Sofrins... the build quality always leaves me a bit worried, especially around the power button and the UI requires so much clicking, it gets a bit maddening. Their IF23 is a power bank and side light with color, but it gets over 110F during use, the whole body. So just check on their different products, they are hit and miss for sure. I keep a HOTO screwdriver in my work bag, super handy. I have the Roxon, mine has bad build quality and some of the tools just kind of flip out, can't tighten to fix, would probably need to add a washer or something. But the scissors are great.
I really like the little brother of the Roxon you showed. The smaller one has scissors as the only middle tool, but it has a toothpick, tweezers, and a pop out eyeglass screwdriver. It also has the bit kit. And it’s $20. I really like it.
Really enjoyed this video, as I always enjoy all the other videos you put out.
Had a good laugh when the Memobottle was placed on the table. 😂
I actually bought 2 in that A6 model, and get the same reaction whenever I say how much it costs.
Nevertheless, the Memobottle is a great ice breaker and conversation topic as I always take into meetings as it goes flush in my hand with a notebook / agenda, and creates less bulk in a pouch, backpack or cargo pants pocket.
See you in the next video.
Keep well.
Greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹. 😉
*_The wallet:_* Jon's wallet looks better. I like the little DIY element to it. But in terms of something that you're going to carry in your pocket... Way too bulky. It's 5(!!!) layers of leather thick, and that's before you even put something in it. Jamie's wallet is just way slicker and more practical. I'll give this one to Jamie with the caveat that Jon's wallet is pretty nice.
*_The torch:_* I like the headlight... but it's of limited use. There were one or two times when I could have used a headtorch, but got along without one just fine. So Jamie wins this one again.
*_The multitool:_* I'd disqualify both of you since both tools have locking blades which means they're not suitable for EDC. But that's just an UK thing, so let's skip over it. While the Wave is definitely a tried and tested design, I am a bit apprehensive given the provenance of Jon's pick. From the paracord test it's clear that the tool looks like a Wave but functions nothing like it. Also, it's going to be pretty heavy, I bet. So, sorry Jon, this one narrowly goes to Jamie on the basis of "that doesn't look very reliable".
*_Mystery item:_* A very expensive weird looking bottle? Not for me. Jamie's screwdriver wins hands down.
Sorry Jon...
That's OK - can't argue with your logic
Couldn't agree with you more 😁
🍻Jon's, although it was 50/50 with the unusual and useful flat bottle tipping the scales for me. Jamie's wallet over Jon's, but Jon's flashlight over Jamie's, etc.
18650 flashlight is a huge win
The screwdriver is awesome as well...one thing you didn't touch on is the back turn BUT that makes it also easier to screw/un-screw something
Also the snap wallet is awesome
It's a tough pick this time. I think Jamie's wallet would be preferred and the screwdriver is very appealing I think I'd take Jon's light and the bottle is very appealing. I just generally can't pick a multitool at this price range they all feel a bit too cheap. I think either save up for something a bit better or just go without a pocket multitool in the budget range.
24:33 At 15£ the screwdriver would be fine but now it's 22£ discounted from 30£. But the sale is probably fake since even on Amazon Germany it's 25£ and no discount.
everything in jons but i have the smaller roxon multi and love it but wish i had bought the bigger one with the pliers as well. thanks boys keep up the good work. i have purchased a coupke things based on your reccomendations and have yet to be let down.
Love these ! Swap out the wallets and Jamie won for sure !
I bought the HOTO screwdriver last year. It’s ok. Too slick to hold on to. So I put some heat shrink tubing around it. And don’t dare drop it. The magnets are not strong enough to keep it together and the bits will go everywhere!!! Overall not a bad precision screwdriver. I also found the IFixit bits fit much tighter in the HOTO screwdriver
Love you guys keep up the good banter and budget friendly gear.
i personally got the ekster wallet aluminum but swapped the plate for the angryjoeshow for bottle opener. carries 5 cards plus 3 on one side plus 2 on the other side plus a 50aud note and a bandaid. bandaid comes in clutch when im not carrying a altoids like tin with first aid stuff.
my multitool is the leatherman wingman. knife, pliers and phillips i use most. mainly the pliers and philips honestly for building fixtures at work when needed to.
recently got the rovyvon a5 g3 with the glow in dark body which actually is super handy and that aux light especially since it can flash red if my rear bicycle light dies i have this to clip onto it. thanks to your video on the rovyvon lights. its smaller than expected.
if i had to throw in a random item its between the airpress pen or the slice 10495 model the one from excessorize me since i work retail cutting boxes is a breeze. will say on my second pair since i lost my first one (also happened to the first pair) after a year or so the spring broke so it doesnt auto flip out anymore but can just flick the wrist and works fine. still on the same blade after 2 half years now doesnt gunk up on tape. still cuts cardboard easily and sharp enough to cut plastic straps and plastic wrap. try not to drop it on the tip as my first pair did snap a small piece of the tip still useable for tape and half effective on everything else after that so did flip the blade on that pair before losing the knife.
the airpress pen so far has been the only pen that still works somehow doesnt gunk up the tip with pocket lint unlike most generic pens and is pretty small. this is definitely not budget friendly but just want to put it out there for anyones inspiration and from personal experience took a while to find these particular tools and things that realllly work for me.
Love these videos the banter is fantastic.
I don’t think I can actually pick a winner this year!! For wallets, I would chose Jon’s, loved both flashlights, Jamie wins the multitool, and I own both of the mystery items and love them as well! Well played to the both of you and great video as always!!
Jaime's pick of HOTO screwdrive & his Sofirn flash light were very good picks also. Hope to see more of these type of videos.
Useful video, as usual. About the MEMOBOTTLE, it's a very nice invention, because flat and easy to carry in the pouch (I bought the TOMTOC white, after seeing it on your video a year ago), but it is anything but a new invention: our great-great-grandfathers, as the western films of the 1930s show us, used to carried flat flasks of whiskey etc. in their jacket pockets. I really thought I'd buy it to fill it not with unnoble water, which causes rust, but with a precious Macallan de Lalique: indeed, a precious drink deserves a genuine container.
New to the Channel. Really enjoyed the video, the products, the banter...all around very nice. And ive already put in a order for the Acebeam torch. I liked it. And had I not just gotten a nice little "tactical" (that's what it says on the box..lol) I'd definitely give that 2nd wallet a go. Its a very clever design I think.
What stood out for me:
Jon: Crazy Horse Wallet - even though I actually personally own a (different style of) Vaultskin wallet!
Jamie: Roxon M2 & Hoto Screwdriver Set - I like these so much I will be buying them.
The flashlights aren't really comparable as Sofirn is a definite EDC but is a headlamp generally EDC? Guess Jamie wins this too. Sorry Jon.
That's OK - some good stuff there
@@JonGadget Actually, I've just found out the Roxon M2 has a locking blade, so no good for EDC. I'm going for the Nextool Mini instead. It's smaller but that means it can go on a keyring and, if the scissors are good, it might even replace the Leatherman Micra which currently resides on mine.
I have the Acebeam and really like it. It’s not my EDC (I have a Rovyvon for that), but it fills my need for a bright, hands free light when checking on my animals after dark. I was curious about this style of light, and it was on sale for about $23USD. “Dual fuel” is a bonus, as is the headband. I have found that it doesn’t always want to shut off with a long press, but wants to keep cycling through different light levels. This is a new development that I keep hoping is user error, but it is frustrating.
Jon went over budget. There was a bit of some funny math there! Thanks for showcasing some cool gear though.
what kind of wallet do you have there 30:06, do you have a link for me? greets from vienna/austria
Entertaining video as always! I also like an overall budget vs a per item budget.
Easy win for Jamie, really good torch. Nice looking wallet. Great pocketable edc multitool and a fairly nice screwdriver.
Against John's, clone tool, weird wallet, 35 quid for a mad plastic bottle only thing that even stands a glimmer of a chance is the torch.
Sorry John but you've lost the plot 😂
Well plaid Jamie 👏 🎉
Great video though as usual guys. Thanks for the upload 🍻
Jamie is good with budget 😊
@JonGadget loved the video, top work as always. You had a look at the GOAT tool yet?
Another great and very entertaining video, good job both of you, but it's a hands down victory for Jamie I think....
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did uou try and yest the "the good mate wallet" its perfect vrilliant and absolutely microscopic. please try it out !!!❤
not seeing that on UK Amazon
Love this series. Can't wait till next one.
I think I would go with Jamie's picks except for the wallet. I like Jon's wallet more, kinda unique. And I think you could slip in a small flashlight or knife/multi-tool inside. Not sure though but you could update us, Jon? But the multi-tool, specially the flashlight, the award goes to Jamie. That SC32 is a great flashlight IMHO. Never tried anything from Roxon but if the scissors cuts that good then it's a YES for me.
Hope you could feature something from NEXTORCH and NEXTOOL in your future episodes, Jon. Love watching you two together.
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It was Jamie's Hoto screwdriver choice that put it over the top. So much so, that I purchased one immediately after. (Also the Iron Maiden shirt gave have him bonus points)
Cheers mate, the screwdriver is great, Jon has even bought one and he has a million screwdrivers 🤣
SHould try Bibiry multi tools Jon. Tried a few and the ones over £20 are amazing. As always awesome vids
I love these battles! Keep 'em coming!
I'm a Lincolnshire lass in Lithuania. Thanks for including the Crazy Horse Craft wallet. I'd never heard of them before, so I got excited! Hope one day I will support this local business! The wallet's not really my thing, but I like the look of some of their other stuff as I got intrigued. :)
Love the bottle - very innovative, even if a little expensive!
Totally agree on both counts!
@@JonGadget do you have any plans to do another updated Car EDC video Jon?
I’m a big sofirn fan and EDC one of their lights but for budget I have to go with the Acebeam.
Like the SwissTech Multitool (couldn’t find it on Amazon).
Like both wallets 👍🏽
Have to go with magnetic screwdriver for bonus item.
Another fantastic review. Thank you😊
The sofirn sc32 with the SST-40 emitter does have a bit of a green tint in the moonlight mode and a low CRI. I would recommend the SC32 HCRI it has a 519a emitter higher CRI and a better tint to the light overall but you sacrifice 700 lumens on turbo for the cri and tint.
Love my M2 and belt arry in pouch. Precision driver, ace. Can see merit of both torches
I have the vault skin wallet and I’ve had it for over 4 years, I absolutely love it.
Every single item showcased is worth considering. That's a great video and a tough competition!
I have a problem with the A6 bottle. As it is meant to go in your bag, smooth plastic is not a good choice in my opinion. If you fill it with cold water, vapor will condensate on it, and your gear will get wet. Well, it's a problem for me at least, here 30°C is too common and humidity is 60% and above 🥵
Great video! For the Roxon 2… did you say the blade is locking? So does that make it illegal for carry in the UK?
Sofirm all the way (Wurkkos, the subbrand this year has much interesting flashlights, TS11 for example). Better user menu, better light. Better form factor choosed on Acebeam. Roxxon has better steel than Swisstech, smaller, but the scissors are more used tool also, so....
Wallets: tie. I like more the thinner, but the Lituanian has a better story and it is more usable. Surprise item: I like the bottle, but this form makes it more brittle, and I can use any bottle anyway, it is not so important. So, Jamie wins.
great feedback 👍
Got that daicamping 30, the surge clone... I'm really impressed by the apparent quality
On the Roxon multitool, what's the point of a "package opener" when you have a blade? Maybe grind that down a bit to use as your flat head.
man this is a tough one. for me it comes down to between the bottle and the screwdriver. I really love the screwdriver and will probably get one, but if I couldn't carry anything but what's in these kits and a bag, I'd go with Jon's because I drink a ton of water when I'm out and about, but I don't generally use a small bit screwdriver when I'm out of the house