I know a lot of US-Taiwan dual citizens will fly back to Taiwan to get treatments, because the airfare plus seeing the doctor plus treatments would still be less than getting treated here in the US, and that's *with* insurance..
We took our US friend to ER because he was feeling bad, after seeing the doctor, X Ray, blood test and prescribed the medicine, he was scare to death (he was felling physically well at the moment though) about the bill and it came back at 900 NTD (30 dollars). I am not going back to the US neither 😊
OMG. This is so true. I remember them taking us to get our health check and I was soooo nervous because I thought it was going to be ungodly expensive. Everyone always asked... why are you nervous. Because American healthcare... while great... is so unobtainable. It’s either A.) too expensive B.) too time consuming C.) no immediacy when needed. This video is awesome Kayla! My girlfriends doctor visits only cost here 200ntd with insurance. It’s insane to me to think that it’s easy to go to the doctor for people here. It’s such a scary experience for me back home because I’m afraid of the bills. With insurance... an average doctor bill for a check up back home was between 6500 - 8000ntd.
I'm so glad you can relate! It's crazy how cheap the health check was! The health system here is amazing and I definitely think it's worth talking about more. I don't have my insurance yet and even then it's mad cheap.
And yes! Doctor bills in the US even with insurance are ridiculous! Like why pay for insurance and then still pay more, plus that extra you may you don't even know until you get the bill.
I know I've taken up with the regional director! Hopefully that makes it happen. My school has offered to pay medical bill in the meantime but damn I just want that golden insurance!
In germany we have the a very good healthcare system, so good that even american tv has interviewed our health minister. We have to pay based on our income, works effective and nice.
I met a German in Taiwan and he told me the same thing! I think it's wonderful. I'm from the US so almost any healthcare system is better than my home country.
I'm from Taiwan and currently in the US. I totally understand how surprised you are. Almost all foreigners are stunned when they first encounter. Yeh we have almost the best public medicare system with high quality treatment standard in the world. From some reports, we're even ranked the top. The current public health system in Taiwan is more like social welfare, less like insurance. In order to take care of severe ills, the system is designed for each resident to pay fairly and enjoy qualified treatment. For the severe ill or rare diseased patients, the system takes care of a great proportion of the costs. There's also a history of high standard medical treatment system. One of the reasons is the quality of doctors. The elite of Taiwanese, yeh those smartest guys usually learn medicine as their career option. It's a historical tradition ever since japanese colonial era (history :-)). Of course, there're still different layers to form this result. Like the sloppy medicare system kidnapped by insurance companies in the states, there're tons of causes. Complicated. You might be happy now that you're able to figure it out in Taiwan amid this pandemic. :-) Cheers.
One of the greatest reasons I chose Taiwan was the healthcare! No system is perfect but the US can flat out ruin your life with medical bills. I'm so happy to be here, during COVID I can still work and be safe. In the US not only would I struggle with work (I used to work in schools), but if I felt I had COVID I would be afraid to get tested. Tests are free...but treatment..it's so sad what it all came to.
I’m moving to Taiwan i have a chronic cardiomyopathy i would like to know how to get health insurance and if it cover all medicines i need (it’s a lot of medicines…)
That's a great question -- I'm sure you can get insurance but I do think certain conditions may have other charges or insurance won't cover it all. I'd check out twforumosa.com and maybe you can ask there as there's lots of expats that post there about living in Taiwan. I have hashimoto's disease, it's only one medication, but I have no issues getting bloodwork, seeing the doctor, etc.
I have a friend who's a retired senior on Medicare currently fighting a $2500+ USD bill for an ambulance ride between 2 hospitals in San Francisco Bay area! Medicare claimed it's unauthorized! Even though the doctor ordered the ride! WTF😱
medical expenses in the united states ARE much too high, because of GOVERNMENT. big pharm corporations are huge donators to politicians who pass laws protecting big pharms monopolies from any competition, so there is virtually no limit to how much they can charge for their drugs.
I am from Singapore. We have a reasonably good healthcare system here. But I think Taiwanese system is better. I love the one card system, the NHI card, correct me if I am wrong, where you can just present it at the GPs and the hospitals, and all your personal information are extracted. In Singapore, the private and public hospitals and GPs do not have an integrated system. We need to fill up registration forms and answer the same basic personal health history all the times, drug allergy, etc. Administration-wise, we need to improve. In Taiwan, there is the planetary alignment; affordable healthcare cost, good medical infrastructure and a wise government. Thank you Taiwan and thanks for this video clip. And may Taiwan show us the the way to a even better healthcare system.
Curious besides the admin paperfilling stuff, if you needed heart or lung collapse surgery, does Singapore docs and surgeons do a good job of fixing the issue for a cheap affordable price for tourists? Or are tourists bankrupt after Singapore medical care? Is the medical competency and medical tech up to par? Even in private hospitals is it crowded and are the surgeons arrive quickly and always available? Can foreigners get private insurance immediately before or upon arrival to Singapore or does it take time for insurance to kick in?
@@BlakeTedKord Hi Yes, I will put in bullet points: 1) Medical tourism is well developed here. Singapore medical professional is one of the best in the world. And probably top 3 in Asia. Many people from our neighbouring countries come here for surgeries for complex conditions. Well renowned hospitals like Mount Elizabeth Hospital (private hospital) and Singapore General Hospital (Public) are top-notch medical facilities. I have been to both of these hospitals for treatment and testified to their excellent medical outcome. 2) As for financial aspect. I cannot advise you as I am not a medical financial professional. What you paid for in Singapore is most likely value for money. Rarely there are medical con jobs and medical law suits are very rare. As a citizen, I have medical insurance from my government. As for non-citizen, you need to do a comprehensive financial planning before embark on a medical trip here. Call the hospitals and speak to the financial counsellors. I am not going to encourage this mindset; Medical treatment can bankrupt any body in any parts of the world. But at least if you are going to be bankrupt, you or your loved ones are cured of their medical conditions.
@@dennisjazzy2004ds wow so foreigners and tourists can’t get private medical insurance right away in Singapore huh? Cuz that avoids citizens and tourists from going bankrupt…it shouldn’t cost that much…but out of pocket should be only $1000 max…the rest should be covered by insurance as well as govt right? Also can you rank the best to worst medical care of Singapore, China, South Korea, Taiwan, India, Thailand, and Malaysia (Bangkok)?
@@BlakeTedKord Health insurance upon arrival in Singapore, the answer is no as far as I know. Government subsidies are for Singaporean only. Mount Elizabeth Hospital and Raffles Hospital both have a department that deal with medical tourists. You may call them. As for the ranking, this is my personal opinion only. China, India No comments from me, I have no knowledge: Malaysia and Thailand: Top 10 in the world for medical tourism. Affordable and good treatment outcome. Taiwan and Korea: not sure about medical tourism there; and affordability. But probably has the best medical infrastructure In world, or at least in Asia. Singapore. World class medical infrastructure, but not as affordable as compared to Malaysia and Thailand. I had molar tooth implant for 10000 Singapore dollars. And my mother got a high-end hearing aids for 11000 Singapore dollars. But I want you to come Singapore. English speaking country. Very safe, great transport, good lodging. And the Covit situation here is under control.
Doctors and nurses in Taiwan are like charity workers. Same as vets as people are used to cheap Medicare fees so they think the same for pets (but vets get no subsidies from the government)......
I'd hope so -- but let's bring the Americans that are good representatives. I met some Americans the last week in Kinmen visiting for work and oh, my, god. They were embarrasing.
I don't trust Trump or the US medical system. Cheaper pills may not also mean cheap. An expat here on Kinmen went back to the US and got sick, he thought he had COVID and went to the ER. After 7 hours in the ER, the COVID test was negative. He was billed $7,000 USD for his trip. He had to fight his insurance to pay for it.
@@nonrepublicrat If that is the case, why don't those doctors and nurses just quit and find another job? I always fired my bosses whenever I thought that I was unfair treated or not happy with my pay in the past.
@@rupeylee5876 because all hospitals underpay their workers in Taiwan since its an industry that is somewhat monopolized by the government. And Taiwanese doctors do move over to the US for jobs at a heartbeat if they have a n opportunity.
@@matthunt5277 Low pay is a common situation in Taiwan not only for the doctors and nurses but all society. Go to a better pay country is a solution, however, they have their own problems to solve as well.
you are right that taiwan's system is super efficient, and i do not fault it too much because the people are made to pay MUCH lower taxes than americans do. so taiwan certain has the better system, but it is not because of marxism. we are much more marxist and less free here in america.
I know this, I work, and I do pay for healthcare here. I'm just not risking my financial security for healthcare in Taiwan. I can go to the doctor without fear. Nothing is free, but I wasn't about the way the US handles this idea, especially when it comes to the detriment of people's lives.
@@KaylaCosmos Don't worry Kayla, if that is legal, then it is legal! If there are any problems that must be something to with the management of Government. This country ruled by law and you just follow the law and no worries at all. People are not satisfied with their pay and treat, trying to get more to improve their lives which is nature so that the world can be rolling fast forward... It is a good thing. I used to quit my jobs when I felt unfair with them. Looking for more opportunity to train myself, becoming more versatile...working harder... improving my English... I hope to get the same pay as per those people in the advanced countries and pay less taxes here...I was lucky pretty close...
That's like how many Americans and some other Westerners frame things. As if someone is getting something for nothing and it's "not fair". Never mind that people, who are able, pay into something that we all benefit from -knowing that when the lucky person with a job loses that job, then they themselves will benefit as well.
in the united states anybody can go to any emergency room and get whatever you need. the cost of "health care" has only gone up and up the more government gets involved. wasn't obamacare suppose to solve whatever it is that you think you need to complain about ???
@@KaylaCosmos socialism depends on violently forcing others conform to your agenda, and pay for your what you want. therefore it is evil and you should NOT be encouraging it.
@@KaylaCosmos for example: families have their homes stolen from them if they can't pay their "property tax" so you can go to government school at their expense. are you ok with that ??
I know a lot of US-Taiwan dual citizens will fly back to Taiwan to get treatments, because the airfare plus seeing the doctor plus treatments would still be less than getting treated here in the US, and that's *with* insurance..
So, so, so disappointing. Yes, even with insurance it's ridiculous. Plus it's hard to understand what something might actually cost in the end...
We took our US friend to ER because he was feeling bad, after seeing the doctor, X Ray, blood test and prescribed the medicine, he was scare to death (he was felling physically well at the moment though) about the bill and it came back at 900 NTD (30 dollars). I am not going back to the US neither 😊
AMAZING! This is why I love Taiwan. We don;t have to be afraid of the bills that can come with a doctors visit!
OMG. This is so true. I remember them taking us to get our health check and I was soooo nervous because I thought it was going to be ungodly expensive. Everyone always asked... why are you nervous. Because American healthcare... while great... is so unobtainable. It’s either A.) too expensive B.) too time consuming C.) no immediacy when needed. This video is awesome Kayla! My girlfriends doctor visits only cost here 200ntd with insurance. It’s insane to me to think that it’s easy to go to the doctor for people here. It’s such a scary experience for me back home because I’m afraid of the bills. With insurance... an average doctor bill for a check up back home was between 6500 - 8000ntd.
I'm so glad you can relate! It's crazy how cheap the health check was! The health system here is amazing and I definitely think it's worth talking about more. I don't have my insurance yet and even then it's mad cheap.
And yes! Doctor bills in the US even with insurance are ridiculous! Like why pay for insurance and then still pay more, plus that extra you may you don't even know until you get the bill.
I cannot believe you still didn’t get your stuff yet. I’m so sorry. That’s BS. It shouldn’t take this long.
I know I've taken up with the regional director! Hopefully that makes it happen. My school has offered to pay medical bill in the meantime but damn I just want that golden insurance!
enjoy taiwan. it is wonderful there. take care !
In germany we have the a very good healthcare system, so good that even american tv has interviewed our health minister. We have to pay based on our income, works effective and nice.
I met a German in Taiwan and he told me the same thing! I think it's wonderful. I'm from the US so almost any healthcare system is better than my home country.
That’s so interesting that you did a video about this !!! I’m thinking of doing a video on Canadian health care!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍😍 Great work!!!
Do it!! I think learning about how other countries Healthcare systems is so interesting! I hope you learned something!
One thing i might add to low cost health care in Taiwan. Malpractice law suits rarely happen in Taiwan, same for against pharmaceutical companies.
Yes! I went to the doctor yesterday and they just let me leave, I payed nothing. It was confusing hahah
大家一起努力 即使每個月多付一點 讓整個全民健保 可以照顧到每一個在這片土地上的每一個人
醫療保健是我來台灣的最大原因之一，除了令人讚嘆的人文和文化:)
Back in 2009 I had a hernia operation that cost 30,000 NT or 1000 USD. The same operation in the USA: 10,000 USD probably higher today.
I can imagine -- it's insane and a shame.
I'm from Taiwan and currently in the US. I totally understand how surprised you are. Almost all foreigners are stunned when they first encounter. Yeh we have almost the best public medicare system with high quality treatment standard in the world. From some reports, we're even ranked the top. The current public health system in Taiwan is more like social welfare, less like insurance. In order to take care of severe ills, the system is designed for each resident to pay fairly and enjoy qualified treatment. For the severe ill or rare diseased patients, the system takes care of a great proportion of the costs. There's also a history of high standard medical treatment system. One of the reasons is the quality of doctors. The elite of Taiwanese, yeh those smartest guys usually learn medicine as their career option. It's a historical tradition ever since japanese colonial era (history :-)). Of course, there're still different layers to form this result. Like the sloppy medicare system kidnapped by insurance companies in the states, there're tons of causes. Complicated. You might be happy now that you're able to figure it out in Taiwan amid this pandemic. :-) Cheers.
One of the greatest reasons I chose Taiwan was the healthcare! No system is perfect but the US can flat out ruin your life with medical bills. I'm so happy to be here, during COVID I can still work and be safe. In the US not only would I struggle with work (I used to work in schools), but if I felt I had COVID I would be afraid to get tested. Tests are free...but treatment..it's so sad what it all came to.
I’m moving to Taiwan i have a chronic cardiomyopathy i would like to know how to get health insurance and if it cover all medicines i need (it’s a lot of medicines…)
That's a great question -- I'm sure you can get insurance but I do think certain conditions may have other charges or insurance won't cover it all. I'd check out twforumosa.com and maybe you can ask there as there's lots of expats that post there about living in Taiwan. I have hashimoto's disease, it's only one medication, but I have no issues getting bloodwork, seeing the doctor, etc.
Thank you! I’ll check it
I couldn’t find this website
@@dilo2305 tw.forumosa.com/
I have a friend who's a retired senior on Medicare currently fighting a $2500+ USD bill for an ambulance ride between 2 hospitals in San Francisco Bay area! Medicare claimed it's unauthorized! Even though the doctor ordered the ride! WTF😱
That's terrible -- no one should have an authorized ambulance not be covered (and even if it wasn't authorized, that's a ridiculous price.
medical expenses in the united states ARE much too high, because of GOVERNMENT. big pharm corporations are huge donators to politicians who pass laws protecting big pharms monopolies from any competition, so there is virtually no limit to how much they can charge for their drugs.
Yeah you're right, and it's a shame. Unfortunately I don't see it changing either, so I'm glad I was able to pursue living abroad.
trust residence caretaker health service of taiwan. very good
Yes! I'm very happy with it here
真心希望大家都能像您一樣珍惜台灣的健保制度，調漲一些費用，其實是應該的，而且也是必要的，畢竟破產了，倒楣的還是自己！對了，希望您的影片可能的話能夠加上字幕，或許我的英文聽力不好，但是字彙我應該可以比較容易懂的，謝謝您！
當然，我在這裡珍惜醫療系統。當您過去常常因為金錢而害怕去看醫生時，您會欣賞並尊重運作良好的系統。我只去必要的地方去看醫生。如果我得了小感冒或類似的東西，我不會去看醫生。但是，台灣工人在醫院的薪水噹然應該更高。是的，抱歉，該視頻沒有字幕:(
@@KaylaCosmos 金門的生活跟台灣截然不同，尤其是以前，這有很多的故事（金門以前是戰地），而男生以前當兵時去外島金門馬祖是常有的事，這些妳可以慢慢的瞭解！相信你會發現金門的偉大，在此祝福您生活愉快平安健康！
@@shingx0321 我們！非常感謝您的友好評論！希望您能通過我的視頻看到金門大橋。它有非常獨特的歷史。我將很快回到台灣，但我會非常想念金門。
@@KaylaCosmos 美女，金門生活應該讓您養成早睡早起的習慣了吧（有時間再回覆吧！夜深了~指金門）😂😂😂😂😂
I am from Singapore. We have a reasonably good healthcare system here. But I think Taiwanese system is better. I love the one card system, the NHI card, correct me if I am wrong, where you can just present it at the GPs and the hospitals, and all your personal information are extracted. In Singapore, the private and public hospitals and GPs do not have an integrated system. We need to fill up registration forms and answer the same basic personal health history all the times, drug allergy, etc. Administration-wise, we need to improve. In Taiwan, there is the planetary alignment; affordable healthcare cost, good medical infrastructure and a wise government. Thank you Taiwan and thanks for this video clip. And may Taiwan show us the the way to a even better healthcare system.
Curious besides the admin paperfilling stuff, if you needed heart or lung collapse surgery, does Singapore docs and surgeons do a good job of fixing the issue for a cheap affordable price for tourists? Or are tourists bankrupt after Singapore medical care? Is the medical competency and medical tech up to par? Even in private hospitals is it crowded and are the surgeons arrive quickly and always available? Can foreigners get private insurance immediately before or upon arrival to Singapore or does it take time for insurance to kick in?
@@BlakeTedKord Hi Yes, I will put in bullet points:
1) Medical tourism is well developed here. Singapore medical professional is one of the best in the world. And probably top 3 in Asia. Many people from our neighbouring countries come here for surgeries for complex conditions. Well renowned hospitals like Mount Elizabeth Hospital (private hospital) and Singapore General Hospital (Public) are top-notch medical facilities. I have been to both of these hospitals for treatment and testified to their excellent medical outcome.
2) As for financial aspect. I cannot advise you as I am not a medical financial professional. What you paid for in Singapore is most likely value for money. Rarely there are medical con jobs and medical law suits are very rare. As a citizen, I have medical insurance from my government. As for non-citizen, you need to do a comprehensive financial planning before embark on a medical trip here. Call the hospitals and speak to the financial counsellors. I am not going to encourage this mindset; Medical treatment can bankrupt any body in any parts of the world. But at least if you are going to be bankrupt, you or your loved ones are cured of their medical conditions.
@@dennisjazzy2004ds wow so foreigners and tourists can’t get private medical insurance right away in Singapore huh? Cuz that avoids citizens and tourists from going bankrupt…it shouldn’t cost that much…but out of pocket should be only $1000 max…the rest should be covered by insurance as well as govt right?
Also can you rank the best to worst medical care of Singapore, China, South Korea, Taiwan, India, Thailand, and Malaysia (Bangkok)?
@@BlakeTedKord Health insurance upon arrival in Singapore, the answer is no as far as I know. Government subsidies are for Singaporean only. Mount Elizabeth Hospital and Raffles Hospital both have a department that deal with medical tourists. You may call them. As for the ranking, this is my personal opinion only.
China, India
No comments from me, I have no knowledge:
Malaysia and Thailand: Top 10 in the world for medical tourism. Affordable and good treatment outcome.
Taiwan and Korea: not sure about medical tourism there; and affordability. But probably has the best medical infrastructure In world, or at least in Asia.
Singapore. World class medical infrastructure, but not as affordable as compared to Malaysia and Thailand. I had molar tooth implant for 10000 Singapore dollars. And my mother got a high-end hearing aids for 11000 Singapore dollars.
But I want you to come Singapore. English speaking country. Very safe, great transport, good lodging. And the Covit situation here is under control.
👍👍👍
That’s at least a $250 USD visit in the US.
How can contact you? I want to ask you some stuff?
I'm on Instagram @kaylacosmos where most people can reach me!
Doctors in the US are paid way too much. As long as you are a doctor, you are almost guaranteed to be rich no matter what.
Yes, but many doctors are also $200,000 in debt from college. It's all messed up regardless. The pharmaceutical companies are the richest in the end
Wow you live in 金門!
Yesss!! My little corner of Taiwan
Hi🤗🤗🤗
Hello! :)
$15 USD?!? That's a steal!
Right!? It's insane!!
Doctors and nurses in Taiwan are like charity workers. Same as vets as people are used to cheap Medicare fees so they think the same for pets (but vets get no subsidies from the government)......
So vets in Taiwan are more expensive then?
@@KaylaCosmosnot much
Kayla Meets Culture more “expensive “ as no Medicare. But extremely cheaper than go to a vet in other countries.
Welcome to the world of public health care system, it cost marginally more in Australia for all that as well :)
Thank you! Yeah, I think every developed country but the US has done good for thier people at providing low cost healthcare!
you mean the world of forcing others to pay for what you receive.
Wish You be happy in Taiwan. Can You read Chinese? Taiwanese are more friendly than Japanese.
端午節快樂 Happy Dragon Boat Festival
Thank you! I can't read Chinese :( Only a couple words I can remember unfortunately. You too! :)
@@KaylaCosmos 粽子th-cam.com/video/P8zQVPFBFzY/w-d-xo.html
There'll be many Americans wanna migrate to Taiwan after watching this vedio.
That's ok, but please take ur aircraft carriers here. Hahaha....
I'd hope so -- but let's bring the Americans that are good representatives. I met some Americans the last week in Kinmen visiting for work and oh, my, god. They were embarrasing.
Donald Triump will cut down the pills price in these days.
I don't trust Trump or the US medical system. Cheaper pills may not also mean cheap. An expat here on Kinmen went back to the US and got sick, he thought he had COVID and went to the ER. After 7 hours in the ER, the COVID test was negative. He was billed $7,000 USD for his trip. He had to fight his insurance to pay for it.
Medical staff in Taiwan are cheap workers with high professional quality.
The quality is indeed great. We're very lucky!
@@KaylaCosmos doctors and nurses are terribly underpaid there, so you can take advantage of them by getting something for almost nothing.
@@nonrepublicrat If that is the case, why don't those doctors and nurses just quit and find another job? I always fired my bosses whenever I thought that I was unfair treated or not happy with my pay in the past.
@@rupeylee5876 because all hospitals underpay their workers in Taiwan since its an industry that is somewhat monopolized by the government. And Taiwanese doctors do move over to the US for jobs at a heartbeat if they have a n opportunity.
@@matthunt5277 Low pay is a common situation in Taiwan not only for the doctors and nurses but all society. Go to a better pay country is a solution, however, they have their own problems to solve as well.
you are right that taiwan's system is super efficient, and i do not fault it too much because the people are made to pay MUCH lower taxes than americans do. so taiwan certain has the better system, but it is not because of marxism. we are much more marxist and less free here in america.
Im ok with socialized medicine if you'd be willing to start fat-shaming and cracking down on drug abuse. There's no obesity in Taiwan.
just remember, nothing is free. maybe you can avoid paying for it yourself, but one way or another somebody will be made to pay for what you receive,
I know this, I work, and I do pay for healthcare here. I'm just not risking my financial security for healthcare in Taiwan. I can go to the doctor without fear. Nothing is free, but I wasn't about the way the US handles this idea, especially when it comes to the detriment of people's lives.
@@KaylaCosmos Don't worry Kayla, if that is legal, then it is legal! If there are any problems that must be something to with the management of Government. This country ruled by law and you just follow the law and no worries at all. People are not satisfied with their pay and treat, trying to get more to improve their lives which is nature so that the world can be rolling fast forward... It is a good thing. I used to quit my jobs when I felt unfair with them. Looking for more opportunity to train myself, becoming more versatile...working harder... improving my English... I hope to get the same pay as per those people in the advanced countries and pay less taxes here...I was lucky pretty close...
That's like how many Americans and some other Westerners frame things. As if someone is getting something for nothing and it's "not fair". Never mind that people, who are able, pay into something that we all benefit from -knowing that when the lucky person with a job loses that job, then they themselves will benefit as well.
in the united states anybody can go to any emergency room and get whatever you need. the cost of "health care" has only gone up and up the more government gets involved. wasn't obamacare suppose to solve whatever it is that you think you need to complain about ???
Yep, you can. And you can possibly take on debt. I'm not here to argue, you seem to have your mind set. Say all you want.
@@KaylaCosmos socialism depends on violently forcing others conform to your agenda, and pay for your what you want. therefore it is evil and you should NOT be encouraging it.
@@nonrepublicrat oops.
@@KaylaCosmos for example: families have their homes stolen from them if they can't pay their "property tax" so you can go to government school at their expense. are you ok with that ??
@@nonrepublicrat I'm not doing this. There's no reason to guilt trip me and your condescending attitude doesn't offer a productive discussion. Peace
in general, taiwan is much less socialist that the united states, which is the reason they can afford subsidized insurance.