@@WeedleTwineedle Belch could actually be good if you could select it before eating a berry instead of it being unclickable (along with 100% accuracy and hitting both mons.) Teatime would be fun to use with it. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and your optimization of the strat!
That was a seriously cool strat! So many weird mechanics involved. I had no idea you could fling berries at your teammate for buffs, let alone it would activate belch. I kinda wanna see more goofy berry strats now.
@@volbla not only can you do so with berries, but the pill items too (X-Attack, Dire Hit, etc.). It got shown against Weedle a while back with a Dire Hit flung into a Lugia to proc Weakness Policy and get a Crit Rate boost
@@rayhatesu That's insane. X-items boosts two stages these days! They do have 30 power instead of the berries' 10, but that's probably not a big deal. A shame there's only two types weak to dark or it could activate more weakness policy. Though you could fling at someone with rattled instead.
QOTD2 - I know everyone wants Zamazenta to learn body press, but they should also receive mat block, since mat block relies on speed and isn't a priority move, Zamazenta would use it extremely well, alongside body press Zamazenta might actually rival Zacian.
Funny thing is. For those in the rom hack community Zamazenta gets iron defense body press in Radical Red. There's even a Radical Red version of Showdown with all new Mon specs.
I didn't think Wide Guard could be used to protect yourself from your ally's spread moves ! It's amazing the amount of synergy your teams have, love your content keep it up queen ♥
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v No, its main use is protecting your team from the opponent's spread moves. It working on your own spread moves is a pretty niche application of it because most people and VGC and Doubles default to using moves like Rock Slide and Muddy Water which don't target your own mons.
Mat Block is one of those moves that a lot of people forget about because it's pretty tricky to get off, but when it goes off it can be pretty tempo swinging
You can only get mat block on Throh via home transfer. Throh is the only Pokémon that gets it and it’s programmed in the game, but this is the only way to do it has a move relearn in Gen 7.
I think my favorite part about this video is not only how creative the synergies are, but how fluid your pivots are. At 4:25, the Superpower to Eject Pack into Indeedee for the Psychic Surge the instant before Expanding Force is such an amazing combo. The Wide Guard to block your own Earthquake is just chef's kiss on top of everything else. P.S. that Fling Petaya Berry enabling Belch WITH Weakness Policy is cruel and I know you know it.
these are the videos that made me love competitive pokemon. seeing non standard moves and pokemon being used to create interesting situations is one of the best things to see. love it
It’s fun seeing Mat Block being used effectively, Mat Block was actually the starting point of my current doubles team because I was trying to find different ways to run Sniper Inteleon
bro.... this is easily the coolest doubles strat ive seen ever. it was so complex with how many moves had to go off but it worked amazingly. love your vids dude, easily makes my day watching cool strats like this.
i want to spotlight one of the opponent's teams on this one actually! random x33 is running a perish song strategy with politoed, but curiously doesn't seem to be running any trapping abilities. instead their plan seems to revolve around forcing switches with perish song, allowing them to set up stat boosts with storm drain/ancient power (and maybe other stuff) for free, as well as damaging their enemies with hazards from ferrothorn/cradily. they even have regenerator amoonguss on their team cuz they knew they'd be forcing themselves to switch out periodically as well, and i assume volt switch is on zeraora so they can get some damage in as they do so. this strategy is so cool! just wanted to share that.
Good lord this is a symphony of team synergy, using eject pack to almost finish off a mon and then switching into Indeedee to allow Expanding Force to destroy, using Wide Guard to survive a powerful Earthquake or Eject Pack round 2 into Telepathy Oranguru to do the same thing, this team switches out without switching out, this was a glory to watch (and that poor soul who kept spamming Expanding Force and Eruption and you just clicking Wide Guard was hilarious
Storm Throw was apparently only Throh’s signature for half a generation. Pinsir got it in B2W2 and Pancham got it through breeding in XY. Mat Block was Greninja’s signature and was given to Throh in Gen 7. But still, only 3 Pokemon can learn Storm Throw and only 2 Pokemon get Mat Block? :/ That’s a surprisingly low amount…
I knew about mat block but I DIDNT know you could wide-guard your own moves. When you Wide Guarded your own eq my jaw DROPPED! Also the Orianna "THROW" on circle throw had me in tears
I'm not a super big competitive battler, I prefer just playing for story and collecting but I love watching your videos and learning more about their moves and abilities! Thank you!
I have actually used Mat Block on Greninja during the 7G games, in the double battles of the Combat Tree. It was super cool :D gg for using it in real strat battles
There is a strat I once used with bolt beak/fishous rend and after you, basically you have audino and meowstic (male), you use meowstic to give audino prankster while audino does something, maybe trick room I forgot, then if meowstic dies you swap in the fishous rend or bolt beak user, or hard swap into it, and then use prankster after you on your fishous rend/bolt beak user
Weedle i absolutely love you for this. I've been asking for bellybro for years im so happy to finally see it wreck house. You are hands down my favorite poketuber. Not even because of bellybro you are just great and creative. But also because you showcased bellybro lol
I've also never heard of mat block, so I looked it up. It protects the user and ally , but can only be used right after the mon is sent out. It was added in gen 6 only on Greninja, added to Sawk in gen 7, and removed in gen 8
If I was one of the creators of some of these often overlooked Pokemon that you use, I'd be so overjoyed to see them put in work against some of the most popular Pokemon because of the creative strategies you use. Amazing as always.
I feel like I've heard of mat block before this video but I definitely didnt remember it didn't have priority. super cool seeing you use it on an unpopular mon
I had no idea Throh learned Mat Block... nor did I even know that move existed honestly. Not sure who would benefit from learning Mat Block since I barely play pokemon nowadays, I just like watching you play. Amazing video by the way!
1:20 QOTD, I did know about Mat Block, I actually had a gimmick team that relied on it (Greninja and Smeargle and two others with U-Turn, as well as Safeguard, one with a Red Card, and something with an Eject Button and Trick, and something with Defog, and lots of Fake Outs. Basically, it relied on constantly cycling Pokémon and preventing the opponent from getting an attack in.) As for something else that could get the move... Perhaps Nincada as a level 50 move (so you have to stick with it in order to get it on Ninjask and Shedinja. As well as Shiftry. Accelgor got Water Shuriken so it doesn't get Mat Block too.
reminds me of a strat i loved to use. a pokemon that knows the ability Super Luck and the entire move list is a bunch of high crit moves. as well as a togekiss with Serene Grace, and a whole moveset of moves that have second effects (example: tri attack, flamethrower, blizzard, discharge. moves that have a chance of having a secondary effect)
I used to use Mat Block back in Gen 6 Maison on my rain dance team to help Kingdra set up. Choice scarf greninja mat block, sniper Kingdra with focus energy, surf, ice beam, and dragon pulse. Was a lot of fun. Only downside is the cpu loved to bring statuses to counter it
That dude really stuck to Expanding Force/Eruption even after Weedle revealed their Wide Guard, making them officially dumber than the AI in Pokemon Reborn
I replayed the eruption / expanding force into wide guard an unhealthy amount of times. "Funny Steps" didn't help. Thanks for the laughs QOTD1: I thought that Mat Block for some reason was Greninja's down-b in smash. Turns out that was substitute, so no. QOTD2: Shuckle.
Omg this is so cool that you actually use this i'm so happy!! Thank you so much Weedle
Thanks for the suggestion even if I didn't follow it exactly as you said, I don't think I've ever used Belch in a video so wanted to give it a try.
@@WeedleTwineedle Belch could actually be good if you could select it before eating a berry instead of it being unclickable (along with 100% accuracy and hitting both mons.) Teatime would be fun to use with it. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and your optimization of the strat!
That was a seriously cool strat! So many weird mechanics involved. I had no idea you could fling berries at your teammate for buffs, let alone it would activate belch. I kinda wanna see more goofy berry strats now.
@@volbla not only can you do so with berries, but the pill items too (X-Attack, Dire Hit, etc.). It got shown against Weedle a while back with a Dire Hit flung into a Lugia to proc Weakness Policy and get a Crit Rate boost
@@rayhatesu That's insane. X-items boosts two stages these days! They do have 30 power instead of the berries' 10, but that's probably not a big deal.
A shame there's only two types weak to dark or it could activate more weakness policy. Though you could fling at someone with rattled instead.
I love support Throh. Seeing a Pokémon called Throh use Fling just seems so right.
Just wait until sock puts on some boots
I think we’ve all been sleeping on support Throh after Weedle’s shown what it can do (O- O)
Weedle's evolved from "goofy strats that inflict salt" to "massive-brain combos that annihilate all who dare oppose" and I am absolutely here for it.
True mastery is knowing they're one and the same. Can't make goofy plays with goofy strats if you aren't good enough to keep up!
Weedle has always been a master of massive-brain combos. They are just sometimes a little goofy
Goofy strats are big brain. Meta players don't know what goofy mons do. You have the element of surprise.
So is that KanunaTwineedle or BeedrillTwineedle?
They’ve been massive brain combos since they started uploading wdym
QOTD2 - I know everyone wants Zamazenta to learn body press, but they should also receive mat block, since mat block relies on speed and isn't a priority move, Zamazenta would use it extremely well, alongside body press Zamazenta might actually rival Zacian.
As good is that is there's no way gamefreak would ever let their golden child zacian lose the spotlight
If it was faster but it just gets slower
Funny thing is. For those in the rom hack community Zamazenta gets iron defense body press in Radical Red. There's even a Radical Red version of Showdown with all new Mon specs.
U da best Pokemon youtuber, hands down. Love your stuff
I actually never thought about Mat Block on Zamazenta, but it would fit so much to the Shield Pokémon.
Mat Block, the move every Greninja knew in Gen 6 Doubles and Triples and was the Bane of my existence back then
I didn't think Wide Guard could be used to protect yourself from your ally's spread moves ! It's amazing the amount of synergy your teams have, love your content keep it up queen ♥
Thats why I love double battles, its where you see the most versatility in pokemon period.
That's literally its only use, dude. It's for double battles.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v No, its main use is protecting your team from the opponent's spread moves. It working on your own spread moves is a pretty niche application of it because most people and VGC and Doubles default to using moves like Rock Slide and Muddy Water which don't target your own mons.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v nobody said it wasn't
@@maagic2031 and yet ppl use EQ with literally most of the mons on this team. Telepathy, mat block are staples for this play style.
I appreciate the hustle in trying to get us new videos ❤️
Mat Block is one of those moves that a lot of people forget about because it's pretty tricky to get off, but when it goes off it can be pretty tempo swinging
Kinda like Court Change. Everyone thought it'd be meta until it wasn't. But if you pull it off it's pretty wild.
@@nahshontallent4168 court change is meta and one of the two reasons, with libero, why cinderace is banned
Juniors I gvv
I thought only greninja knew mat block the more you know. I think Mienshao or Cincinno would work great with the move too
Medicham might be cool with it as well
Mat Block should have priority IMO
@@vegetables1593 exactly, this being non-priority super wide guard was a....choice
You can only get mat block on Throh via home transfer. Throh is the only Pokémon that gets it and it’s programmed in the game, but this is the only way to do it has a move relearn in Gen 7.
@@ohandthefracking That can only be used on the mon's first turn (like first impression or fake out), AND doesn't protect again status moves
I think my favorite part about this video is not only how creative the synergies are, but how fluid your pivots are. At 4:25, the Superpower to Eject Pack into Indeedee for the Psychic Surge the instant before Expanding Force is such an amazing combo. The Wide Guard to block your own Earthquake is just chef's kiss on top of everything else. P.S. that Fling Petaya Berry enabling Belch WITH Weakness Policy is cruel and I know you know it.
I'm so glad I was born at the right time to enjoy this frequent Weedle content 😭🙏
these are the videos that made me love competitive pokemon.
seeing non standard moves and pokemon being used to create interesting situations is one of the best things to see.
love it
Those belch strats at the end looked like so much fun
It’s fun seeing Mat Block being used effectively, Mat Block was actually the starting point of my current doubles team because I was trying to find different ways to run Sniper Inteleon
Such an iconic strategy, you truly have the mind of a mastermind.
At that point you can just say “you ARE a mastermind”
@@emilysmith2965 found the fake weedle fan
Your videos have been 🥵🌋 on fire lately. Such awesome content queen! 👸
bro.... this is easily the coolest doubles strat ive seen ever. it was so complex with how many moves had to go off but it worked amazingly. love your vids dude, easily makes my day watching cool strats like this.
i want to spotlight one of the opponent's teams on this one actually! random x33 is running a perish song strategy with politoed, but curiously doesn't seem to be running any trapping abilities. instead their plan seems to revolve around forcing switches with perish song, allowing them to set up stat boosts with storm drain/ancient power (and maybe other stuff) for free, as well as damaging their enemies with hazards from ferrothorn/cradily. they even have regenerator amoonguss on their team cuz they knew they'd be forcing themselves to switch out periodically as well, and i assume volt switch is on zeraora so they can get some damage in as they do so. this strategy is so cool! just wanted to share that.
Good lord this is a symphony of team synergy, using eject pack to almost finish off a mon and then switching into Indeedee to allow Expanding Force to destroy, using Wide Guard to survive a powerful Earthquake or Eject Pack round 2 into Telepathy Oranguru to do the same thing, this team switches out without switching out, this was a glory to watch (and that poor soul who kept spamming Expanding Force and Eruption and you just clicking Wide Guard was hilarious
The triple Wide Guard was just beautiful.
Also, would love to see a return of the Round gimmick.
been absolutely loving the recent videos Weedle
great job :D
I knew about it being on Greninja but never on Throh. I know about Storm Throw on Throh as it was its signature move.
Storm Throw was apparently only Throh’s signature for half a generation. Pinsir got it in B2W2 and Pancham got it through breeding in XY.
Mat Block was Greninja’s signature and was given to Throh in Gen 7.
But still, only 3 Pokemon can learn Storm Throw and only 2 Pokemon get Mat Block? :/ That’s a surprisingly low amount…
@@HydroXCP storm throw would go great on grapploct. It already gets circle throw so why not
Love that third one , and how you're not dependant on the one specific sequence of events for a win.
Thanks weedle ❤ working on your rough draft. also QOTD i think all the hitmons should learn it because they are originate from the fighting dojo
Nice belch tech in the bonus stage!
5:08 why did it work multiple times when it says only turn 1 on the move description?
I learn something new every time I watch one of your vids. Also the music goes HARD
7:20 Hah, I said 'Bye-bye' and a split second later the audio played.
I knew about mat block but I DIDNT know you could wide-guard your own moves. When you Wide Guarded your own eq my jaw DROPPED!
Also the Orianna "THROW" on circle throw had me in tears
I'm not a super big competitive battler, I prefer just playing for story and collecting but I love watching your videos and learning more about their moves and abilities! Thank you!
The swift sound effect cracks me up for some reason, coupled with the multi faints was fabulous Weedle, keep it up!!!!!
Love to see Mat Block! I used it on Protean Greninja in Gen 6 to support Calm Mind Mega Gardevoir, DD Gyarados, and the rest of my awful team 🤣
That thumbnail by Sen is just awesome. The Indeedee look is so evil and perfect.
I swear, seeing your positioning always blows my mind. Really impressive stuff to be honest
Loving the consistency, so many bangers lately 😍 if you're feeling burnt out just know I appreciate the effort you put into them 💘
I have actually used Mat Block on Greninja during the 7G games, in the double battles of the Combat Tree. It was super cool :D gg for using it in real strat battles
The immense IQ of using speed boosting moves inside a trick room!
"Ok i lost" said the player who boosted their speed inside a trickroom
Yeah, that was weird. Who tries setting up in a trick room with speed boosting instead of protecting or something?
There is a strat I once used with bolt beak/fishous rend and after you, basically you have audino and meowstic (male), you use meowstic to give audino prankster while audino does something, maybe trick room I forgot, then if meowstic dies you swap in the fishous rend or bolt beak user, or hard swap into it, and then use prankster after you on your fishous rend/bolt beak user
Weedle i absolutely love you for this. I've been asking for bellybro for years im so happy to finally see it wreck house. You are hands down my favorite poketuber. Not even because of bellybro you are just great and creative. But also because you showcased bellybro lol
Calling Mat Block Throh's signature move is like calling Water Shuriken Accelgor's signature move
Gosh, I miss Greninja 😭
“Let’s have greninja without actually having greninja.” and so they made those 2 guys get greninjas AWESOME MOVES
Greninja not being there is just bullshit, dunno what's so hard about letting our buddy exist in 8 Gen
I dont
@@Gaiou0331 The fact that it would be the only mega to still exist in the game. Seriously, it's basically just an extra mega
@@tdawgmaster1729 Battle Bond can be left behind if that's so much of a problem, Greninja would survive without his anime powers tbh.
This video was insane. The level of tech in your plays never ceases to amaze! Thank you for all the great content lately!
In the Sun and Moon meta I ran Mat Block on Greninja with poison Z. You can either protect your partner or 1 shot Xerneas before Geomancy.
You're too galaxy brained for this game, Weedle. I'm always stunned at how creative you are and how well you execute. 🙇♂🙇♂🙇♂
Iirc this was one of greninja's signature moves that also gets used as his final smash in SSBU
Wait mat block wasn't exclusive to Greninja?
It was
Loving this spree of vids you're putting out. Thanks for all the content Weedle!!
Throh is a favorite of mine so it's cool to see him being used. Very fun ideas in the video.
I've also never heard of mat block, so I looked it up. It protects the user and ally , but can only be used right after the mon is sent out. It was added in gen 6 only on Greninja, added to Sawk in gen 7, and removed in gen 8
I never knew that Throh could be such a fun defensive pokemon this is great
If I was one of the creators of some of these often overlooked Pokemon that you use, I'd be so overjoyed to see them put in work against some of the most popular Pokemon because of the creative strategies you use. Amazing as always.
the 3 time wide guard had me dying over here
Wow, I never thought of Throh as a support pokemon. That's actually really smart.
I feel like I've heard of mat block before this video but I definitely didnt remember it didn't have priority. super cool seeing you use it on an unpopular mon
I remember back in the days of X and Y everyone on the battle spot ran mat block greninja
I remember seeing Mat Block once and not knowing what it did. This actually seems like a funny tech counter/pick
I knew Mat Block from doing Triples Greninja strats in the ORAS Battle Maison, but didn't know they ended up giving it to Throh! That's sick.
I had no idea Throh learned Mat Block... nor did I even know that move existed honestly. Not sure who would benefit from learning Mat Block since I barely play pokemon nowadays, I just like watching you play. Amazing video by the way!
Literally the first time I’ve ever seen Belch get used lol
I've been WAITING for the mat block video!!!! so good
I knew about Mat Block but I had only ever used it with Greninja before. Nicely done
1:20 QOTD, I did know about Mat Block, I actually had a gimmick team that relied on it (Greninja and Smeargle and two others with U-Turn, as well as Safeguard, one with a Red Card, and something with an Eject Button and Trick, and something with Defog, and lots of Fake Outs. Basically, it relied on constantly cycling Pokémon and preventing the opponent from getting an attack in.)
As for something else that could get the move... Perhaps Nincada as a level 50 move (so you have to stick with it in order to get it on Ninjask and Shedinja. As well as Shiftry. Accelgor got Water Shuriken so it doesn't get Mat Block too.
I knew about Mat Block from Greninja using it once, and I think Lucario should get it because he seems like the kinda dude to use a matt
Wow, I had no idea this was a thing! Amazing as always.
Throw’s “Signature Move”
Greninja Be Like:
6:26 HEY THATS MY EXACT STRAT FOR BELCH WTF???
I love how a sandstorm happens, it plays the Sandstorm meme before they get hit with it
Love the nod towards NB people with your Porygon-Z’s name!! Its nice to get some representation
I used a Mat Block Greninja paired with a Lvl 1 Aron back in XY with great effect in the Battle Maison Doubles 😁
gets a like for the feeding frenzy sfx you always pull out the coolest ass effects
That Slowking G strat was actually impressive o,o love the vids :D
reminds me of a strat i loved to use. a pokemon that knows the ability Super Luck and the entire move list is a bunch of high crit moves. as well as a togekiss with Serene Grace, and a whole moveset of moves that have second effects (example: tri attack, flamethrower, blizzard, discharge. moves that have a chance of having a secondary effect)
I love the way this team works together! It seems fun to play
As a VGC player, yes
Greninja with mat block in gen 6 was annoying
Amazing content as usual Weedle you're the best
I love your videos, you are always doing some crazy stuff in vgc, the stats you come up with are nuts!
Enby-Z is probably my favorite nickname, it's perfect. Thanks for another great upload and cool strategy!
I have never seen this move until now 😅 got me rushing to bulbapedia 🤣🤣🤣
I used to use Mat Block back in Gen 6 Maison on my rain dance team to help Kingdra set up. Choice scarf greninja mat block, sniper Kingdra with focus energy, surf, ice beam, and dragon pulse. Was a lot of fun. Only downside is the cpu loved to bring statuses to counter it
I loved how you used Swift. Also, solid music and outro.
the amount of content were getting from you rn.... its iconic yeah
That dude really stuck to Expanding Force/Eruption even after Weedle revealed their Wide Guard, making them officially dumber than the AI in Pokemon Reborn
Never expected Fire Emblem music here. Your strategies are amazing!
EDIT: even less of I am Setsuna music omg! Very good taste!
Yay! So glad you are uploading more again. ✨
When Weedle uploads a new video: Another one thank you 😃
Of course I knew Mat Block, it was one of Greninja’s signature moves because just one wasn’t enough for the favourite starter
Throh's signature move being Mat Block? *Laughs in Greninja*
so much dirty stuff, the triple wide guard, double trick room in one turn, that last battles belch combo was insane
All your recent videos have been straight fire.
I knew about mat block already from being an avid hackmons cup player, its amazing you actually found a use for it.
Holy shit. I don’t even enjoy doubles but this was *insert chefs kiss* perfection. Well done.
These are some absolute Galaxy Brain strats! I'm honestly gobsmacked!
That double trick room was massive brain. I learned a new tech today
This is for daddy incineroar cameo.
Stealth rock in doubles? Interesting strat from the first opponent.
I knew about mat block because I had a gen 6 book that included all pokemon in the dex and their moveset and I saw mat block on Greninja.
Great video, the viewer suggestion was fire ngl
I knew Mat Block from Greninja's moveset, but at the beginning of the video I was expecting some After You/Circle Throw shenanigans, you still got me!
The fire emblem music is highly appreciated, absolute banger series.
I replayed the eruption / expanding force into wide guard an unhealthy amount of times. "Funny Steps" didn't help. Thanks for the laughs
QOTD1: I thought that Mat Block for some reason was Greninja's down-b in smash. Turns out that was substitute, so no.
QOTD2: Shuckle.
Their ladder ranking was almost 1500 elo too so like idk what was going on with them lmao
took me a bit to recognize the sound when the sandstorm hit and I felt stupid afterwards 😅😭
4:24 how did swoobat moove first under trickroom? min speed swoobat is 209 and bax speed cradily is 204?
Iron Ball to lower its speed and let it take advantage of Psychic Terrain for Expanding Force boost