Inside Music Man | Factory tour
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- This was our tour trough the factory of Music Man
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We had a great time, seeing how they are built.
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I can't get enough of guitar factory tours. Great stuff.
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Fantastic factory.
Yes it is, we did really enjoy it 🤩‼️
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Yep finish the neck with oil/wax was a great idea, it looks great and feels even better
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I wandered into the London Bass Centre (Wapping) one day in 1998 to buy a set of Rotosounds and came out 30 minutes later with a black Sterling bass which I fell in love with at first sight and touch! I think £1,100.00 in those days. Still a favourite bass of mine and hugely adaptable with 3 band EQ - records like a dream.
I have a 2018 Stingray Special and love how it feels and plays! Thank you for the factory tour.
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When I add up the preferences & favorites of guitarists on their opinions on the best made production guitars (excluding collectibles, boutique builds, Murphy Labs 'hipsterizing'), Music Man, Duesenberg, ESP, US-made PRS & Suhr are always the top of the list. Almost unanimously, the Music Man tuner configuration is the absolute best. Someone whose focus is on the music - it tends to be Music Man & Suhr at the top. Lots of custom shop Fenders & Gibson of course, but the guitars that are actually worth their full price based on their quality - they deserve more respect. Especially the brands that don't make cheaper versions of themselves to cash in on Indonesian labor. Nothing wrong with that, there are incredibly skilled builders in China & Indonesia but it lessens the brand due to the corners cut & the hardware compromises.
When I see a Music Man selling for $3700, I know it's a $3700 guitar. Yet another Gibson copy of a '59 Les Paul with hipster-wear will cost you $10k. That's $10k for a $2300 guitar. Nothing wrong with it, but paying someone else to put fake wear on your guitar is as inauthentic as watching puppets schtupp.
Buying a Music Man is investing in an American instrument, made in, and by, Americans. Being nationalistic isn't what it's about, hell, I'm Canadian - but here's your chance to get $3700 worth of guitar for $3700. I love Suhr guitars, but find them a bit overpriced for what you're getting. Their configurator is my favorite online toy. I'm saving up now for a Lukather 4 30th anniversary model.
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To be noted, Ernie Ball DOES have a cheaper version of themselves that are made overseas using cheap labor...the Sterling brand. Still good guitars in their own right and ,like you said, nothing wrong with it. So does PRS and ESP now that you mention it....just sayin'
Awesome love all the Robot Workers... like an Auto factory.. have not until now seen this much automation in building guitars... Cheers 🍻🥃🥃🎸🎼🎵🎶🎶🎶
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About the Robot Workers, there are factories which are having a lot more robots done the work then Music Man, that i can promise you.
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Thanks for sharing this. Just got my 2nd EBMM, great instruments 👏
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So cool to see inside their workshop! Thanks for the upload!
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Great video! Thanks for the share
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Finally, a good factory tour! Well done, brilliant work. Thanks for sharing
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Great video!
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so cool
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. 6:46 Nardcore t-shirt? Very cool video. I love watching the factory tours. thanks for posting. Music man is fairly close to me and I have never been to the factory.
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Yes i do aswell. Oh really, well if you can it is definitely worth going, if they do tours for public.
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I own 3 of their L3 Models because they are gorgeous showpieces and amazingly fun and easy to play.
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So cool to see the factory. I own a good deal of music gear. My 4 string Stingray bass is my prize possession.
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The Stingray is a classic 😉🤗!!
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Bella/Linda.💪💪💪💪💪💪👑
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Fantastic company!!!
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Tremendos cumbiones sonando por todos lados
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thats neat man
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The more the machines do the work. The less a guitar should cost.
I refuse to pay over £1k for a CNC guitar. My local luthier can properly hand make whatever I want for around £2k so that’s what I do. Amazing what can be found when you don’t care about branding.
yeah no kidding. I thought they were one of the few that did all handwork bc of the cost of their instruments.
Thanks for taking the time to leave comments. Well about the CNC work. Most of the brands use somewhere along their production lines a CNC machine or two, to keep their high standards up at all times.
They're not making Rolls Royces here. They're mass produced guitars! What do bloody want?????
They need to drive the prices up for the guitars, so they can buy all the highly computerized CNC's and Robots working...; I have long time abandoned Music Man and kept only my older Luke models.. - the price / performance ratio is not justifying the price, and their customer support and communication is questionable at best...
They also made great AMP. Don't know about nowadays, but 70th was really good. Have one and it's steel working .
Yes they did, they were great! At the moment they are not building AMP anymore.
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Работа мечты
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I was hoping to see something that explained the cheapest model costing $2,200... must have missed it. Looks like it's back to Sterling for me!
Great video . Wonder why you don't see this brand around much since the 70's .
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I wouldn't have 1 necks too thin! love the trem! the 4 andv2 headstock, hate some the body shapes!
The robots are too cool
Yes they are and that they gave them names is very cool.
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If the necks have single action truss rods are they pre-stressed to allow a little forward bow?
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Yes it does, but a little bow forward is not needed, if i understand you correctly.
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very curious how they maintain selling product with so many workers,
Do I get a SLO county resident deal!!? Shell Beach!….lol JP Majesty
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I noticed that the fretboard is glued under tension! They wrap it against a rounded counterpart to create a bow on purpose, obviously: 7:04
Never saw that before. Is that needed in order to work with a single action trus rod? Interesting!
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why do they strap clamp that wet fingerboard onto such a bowed jigg? that's a lot of bow. whats the logic behind that? or is that optical or something? 7:14
Just ordered the latest Stingray Retro 70, I paid some luthiers and not only CNC machines.
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Notice he got cut at 0:59 when he said they use Honduras…I assume mahogany…
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Stingray basses are superb, if you only have one bass a stingray will cover almost any application
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Yes a Stingray is always a great choice, I would say!!
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I don't know about you guys but I just love wood
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I own the EVH Wolfgang & EBMM (both bought used) and like them equal. Only difference is the EB was 1/2 the price.
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No double action truss rod is kinda a deal breaker for me nowadays, especially on over seas guitars where the wood might not be as stable.
When have you ever needed to help a neck bend TOWARDS 180 pounds of string tension?! Music man properly cures their wood before making their necks. If it was an issue, they wouldn't be using it. John petrucci plays the same instruments around the world, literally in all climates and temps. You think if their most famous artist ever doesn't need a double action truss rod then it's probably fine right? In my 30 years of playing and my current 18 guitars and basses, I've never needed a dual action truss rod ever, from dry ass Colorado, to cold Minnesota and humid Florida.
@@theshapeexists Ive had a few guitars where I had to turn the double action truss rod counter clockwise. Got 2 right now in my collection Both brand new guitars. I also have a couple guitars where the truss rod is all the way slackened and the neck dead straight. really would be nice if those had double actions so I could get some relief .
Was this in San Luis Obispo, California?
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How many employees at the shop? Not many, it looks like.
Their just in one part of the building, they have many employees and many employees get to chose a 4 day work week. Plus they have other sectors in Southern California.
@@srockerboy1 cool. Thanks
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Cool company and they make killer instruments. Just wish they made necks that weren’t pencils!
I know, I have a Cutlass, nice guitar but the neck is thin.
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You think so? What kind of instruments do you play?
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So much automation. I’m too woke to buy one of these guitars. Should be called Musicperson.
Crap ! Had a reason to buy a fretless unlined 5 and always wanted Stingray version of this - chased down thru my rep at music store was told they do not do any fretless - so bought a custom designed on Stingray built by small custom shop - argh swear I saw a few dark fretless necks 6:15 ….. drat
Those tops look thin. I know they are thicker than a veneer but I still don't consider that a full maple cap. It's not just Music Man that does this. I've seen Schecter, Fender, Kiesel and most major brands. For me to consider a guitar to have a full size maple cap, it should be as thick as the top on a Gibson Les Paul. By the time these thin maple caps are put onto a guitar and sanded down. They are to thin in my book to advertise them as a full thickness maple cap. I understand it's to cut cost. At least put a thick piece of plain maple and then a flame veneer. Just to be clear! I'm NOT ragging on Music Man but most of the big brands that do the same thing. If Epiphone can put the same size maple top on their Les Paul's. I feel a company that sales a guitar for 3 to 4 times the price of an Epi. They can put a thicker piece of maple on their guitar.
It’s NOT just about cost. The Les Paul is an unusual case. The reason it has such a thick maple cap is because it has a precise ratio of mahogany/maple that is considered an essential part of its tonal character. By comparison, maple is NOT an essential part of the tonal character of most other guitars. That maple cap is also the single biggest reason that even a chambered Les Paul can still typically weigh in the 8-9lb range. For this reason, most people (myself included) do NOT want Les Paul-style maple caps on their guitars. A veneer or a thin cap is all that’s needed to create the LOOK on a guitar, without imparting its tone or weight in the mix.
Well written!!
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Hand made in the USA by Ursala🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Brian Moore custom shop guitars have a pretty thick maple cap. They’re no longer well known since they went direct. They’re a super strat.
Urshila will be moving into some man’s home and next thing ya know he’ll be out on the street and she’ll be living high on the hog with Big Bird in some pour guys house.
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For a company that has supposedly made guitars for 50 years, I've never once seen one.
What do you think constitutes their guitars being 4,000 dollars? Nothing from your video gave me a WOW moment with their builds.
Supposedly?? They have ACTUALLY been in business for over 50 years.
$4000 for a guitar, well, you're right. The consumer is paying for the machines. Those are starting at $250k and probably topping out at 2 million. Even paying shit wages, they can't get ahead unless those American price tags go up to 3-4k.
Went to Martin years back and couldn't imagine 4k for what I was seeing, but when you add the machinery, amount produced each day, salary, taxes, promotion, increased wood pricing and charges...I can believe any of them stay in business under 5k per.
Chibson prices?
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They could start out with a bigger piece of wood for the neck and eliminate the scarf joint
Why? What would that accomplish? A scarf joint is a traditional, time-proven way to make a good strong wood joint.
Scarf joints are a much stronger neck than one piece necks. Just look at how many Gibsons are broken at the headstock.
True Gibson's break, just think if you're spending $1000 on a guitar it shouldn't be glued together
@@davet.3587 Uh, you do realize that set necks are glued in the body, no? Even if they use bolt-on necks instead of set necks, they still have to use glue to join body pieces together, to glue caps/veneers to the front, and to glue the fretboard to the neck shaft… Even neck-through guitars typically have wings glued on to form the body. I don’t see how one can avoid using glue altogether in making a guitar.
I know glue is used on many parts of the guitar, wasn't saying no glue anywhere just no glue on a two piece necks
If so much is 🎉done by the robots, then why are the guitars so Expensive? Is it just the California Taxes that raise the prices??
Still a lot of US wages going into finishing those guitars, plus slightly better materials etc. add up. But only you can decide if it's worth the $$$.
@@proileri In my opinion, they are over priced like Gibsons. That's simply my opinion.
Couldn’t they get an articulate exec for the tour?
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But Diecast trussrod not strong enough
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Where's all the workers and jobs?!?
Ah yes, that foreign land North Carolina.
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They don’t make amps anymore ?
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For now they don’t as far as we know.
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Here in Germany the MM's are quite expensive. Not interesting anymore.
MM have lost their touch with reality when it comes to prices. They seem to be forgetting the simple fact that the audience they are selling to consists of regular working people, not Rockafellers. I once used to dream about a JP MM guitar. I am not even dreaming about it anymore. Add to that the fact that their necks, from my experience with multiple guitar brands and types of wood, seem to be the MOST sensitive to temp and humidity fluctuations, and require frequent and DRASTIC setups - at least here in the Northeast. Not my cup of tea.
…It is interesting to see their factory though. I’ve always been fascinated with how guitars are being built with automated processes. Cool video.
I don't think Sandberg and Warwick are any cheaper😮
@@michaelblaney4461 Sandberg is a special brand (for Guitars) i wouldn't buy. Warwick doesn't make guitars. It's their other brand Framus and for me this is also a special case and maybe not as successful as they would like to be. MM for me was a great brand. It still is but as i mentioned above...
@@westparkmedia089 Well Sandberg makes good basses ( when I think. Of MM I dont think of guitars )
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With all that automation why are Stingray's more expensive than ever ???
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Well there are a couple of reasons. One the machines cause also a lot of money (they want to provide top notch built instruments at anytime) two the economic has gone up aswell, third wood and shipping costs are skyrocketing. Hope this helps?
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“Indian Rosewood” Is NOT from the rosewood family. They just put lipstick on a pig and called it a beauty queen. - marketing BS.
Sorry what?
Just wondering what is the difference between CNC router and a robot made guitar in US or China, Mexico or Korea?
There is no difference whatsoever, so why the US made guitars are three or four times more expensive? It looks like a money grab or just simple a scam.
Just like Apple, they can charge whatever they want and someone Will Pay it!
Absolutely no love for this company. Love the stingray basses but since they don’t have any love for left handed player.
Don't take everything Billy says as gospel...
How come?
The man with long hair seems as if he has no interest whatsoever. 😅
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I can assure you he was really interested, thats his concentrated and thinking (what and how can i apply this in to my Repairshop) face 😊.
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What makes you post 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 thumbs down?
Why in the hell would anyone still be using a single action trussrod in 2024...especially on such an overpriced instrument?
One possible reason: A dual action truss rod adds more weight, and some feel that it negatively affects tone. It’s also possible that they have enough confidence in their neck wood selection and shaping that that they feel it’s not necessary to counteract a possible back-bow in their necks. Music Man is better even than PRS when it comes to quality control and consistency, so I have full confidence in their abilities.
Thanks for leaving a comment. Well a lot of brands still use a single action Trussrod even nowadays, that is nothing unusual. Doesn’t matter which price range.
I've been playing for almost 30 years. I currently own 18 guitars and basses. I've never once needed a dual action truss rod. And if you've ever played music man, they're incredible instruments. Expensive yes, but you get what you pay for. And American made instruments are pricey because American labor isnt cheap. This is a state of the art facility with top tier materials, machinery, and work force. Dual action truss rods are unnecessary. I've never needed a rod to do anything other than counteract string tension. Have you?
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@@Guitars-Repairs-Winkler done!
still wearing masks!?? Oh yea this is California🤣🤣🤣
Probably the dust created
I was thinking due to factory work.
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Still making fun of people wearing masks, Pfffft! 😆😆
@@thepirhomancer9745 they richly deserve endless ridicule and mocking
The guys tour burned out after about 3 minutes lol
You think so?
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These are high quality guitars... unfortunately they are COMPLETELY ugly and theres only 6 strings. Im never going to buy one because i despise the body shape AND the headstock.....then theres the price...are you kidding????
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