EVERY Smash Veteran's Best Change in Ultimate

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  • @MrMockRock
    @MrMockRock  5 ปีที่แล้ว +863

    Thanks for watching! This video has a retrospective on my second channel which revisits these changes now that Ultimate's done being patched, check that out here: th-cam.com/video/ZryfMovyxiA/w-d-xo.html
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    • @blip7882
      @blip7882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      amazing new intro!

    • @KaedeLanyo
      @KaedeLanyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's alive!

    • @mathunit1
      @mathunit1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you gonna make a rant video about the Corrin changes?

    • @czzy9468
      @czzy9468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will we get a full version of "MockRock is Here"?

    • @Outbowed473
      @Outbowed473 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      First video of yours I have seen subbed as soon as I saw the epic intro

  • @SchaffrillasProductions
    @SchaffrillasProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +977

    Was waiting to see what you were gonna say about Bayo and you did not disappoint

    • @micahfurlow2624
      @micahfurlow2624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Ey mah dude!

    • @keksidy
      @keksidy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      hi shapiro produce section

    • @Bulletproofbouchy
      @Bulletproofbouchy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Keep liking it were nearly at 69 likes

    • @not_GovernmentDrone
      @not_GovernmentDrone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would have never thought you as a bayonetta main lol

    • @thememehead
      @thememehead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hello! I didn't expect you here of all places

  • @loley975
    @loley975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I love how Ike just get's no commentary 😂

    • @JIMEE
      @JIMEE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOLey i had to go into the comment section for this 😂

  • @jarettiechroeb1399
    @jarettiechroeb1399 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ganondorf: *literally everything about him was upgraded.*

    • @bulborb8756
      @bulborb8756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      was there any actual bad nerf's that happened to the king of evil since he's no longer as slow as an ox (but he is still rather slow) and that he actually use's his god damn sword for once?

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bulborb8756 Ganoncide

  • @oscarvee8648
    @oscarvee8648 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that one of Dedede's best changes is the fact that he can inhale enemy projectiles and spit them back out. Yeah, it's like the worst reflector in the game but at least he has one lol.
    Also he can inhale and spit out his own gordos at light speed now

  • @Jedededededede
    @Jedededededede 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:19 d-did the mii swordfighter just.... pull up a *YASUO* ?!?!?

  • @tatenomura7576
    @tatenomura7576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The roster of Smash Ultimate doesn't change the size of this video. The only thing that matters is the size of Sm4sh's roster, and the amount of characters that was cut from Melee and Brawl.

  • @TheStellarJay
    @TheStellarJay 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait so what was DeeDeeDee’s best change? Sorry I didn’t play him at all in 4 and now he’s my main

    • @plompedu
      @plompedu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Inhale and Gordow Buff

  • @DuccAmucc413
    @DuccAmucc413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:21 of course the nicest move of them all is the best one >:]

  • @kacpercicharski3431
    @kacpercicharski3431 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a mistake in the listing of characters in the order they appeared. The first fighters were samus Mario dk and fox

  • @holdenarledge9672
    @holdenarledge9672 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    he has returned

  • @jptractorthethotkiller3747
    @jptractorthethotkiller3747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bayo best change are nerfs that also help with up air being a great combo tool but bad kill move and forward air being her new combo kill move, being able to down till first hit of forward air and fast fall into second hit of forward air at the cost of the move now being able to combo with just the first it because it's more laggy when just hitting the first hit of forward air. Also down till to forward feels so much cleaner in this game than smash 4.

  • @NkIrmath2
    @NkIrmath2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All of the changes to bayo are good because now she is less annoying now

  • @emishimaru-sama6449
    @emishimaru-sama6449 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    *proceeds to use Elegant clips to feature Luigi because he Is the only best Luigi*
    Everybody does that, so...

  • @yeetusdeletethis9697
    @yeetusdeletethis9697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +729

    Bouncer: Welcome to the salty spittoon how tough are ya?
    Me: I mained Ganondorf!
    Bouncer: Mmhmm
    Me: *_IN BRAWL_*
    Bouncer: Go on in sir!

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      UltimateShyGuy Fan
      Not according to Alpharad he's not.

    • @jjt171
      @jjt171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      maining ganondorf makes anyone a full chad. doesnt matter the game. ganon mains are tough guys irl that bench lift every day

    • @dae_da21
      @dae_da21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I miss brawl alot of ppl hate it but it wa my favorite

    • @johboat6872
      @johboat6872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey that me
      Nothing more satisfying than dunking on bitches with Warlock Punch back in Brawl, only to move to Ultimate with that sweet, sweet armor

    • @thestudiesofwumbo
      @thestudiesofwumbo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You think that's bad, I mained Bowser in Melee

  • @TierZoo
    @TierZoo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2398

    While Bowser's down-smash may be an insane buff, have you played against a good bowser main? Bowser's neutral-B does like 50 damage if he catches you in it both onstage and offstage, and shield-pokes you if you dare try to block it. It's basically fully charged Piranha Plant side-b except it actually has hitstun and he doesn't even need to charge it.

    • @MrMockRock
      @MrMockRock  5 ปีที่แล้ว +355

      Oh yeah, Bowser's neutral B is _crazy_ this time around, but it was already at least solid in Smash 4 where his down smash change basically added a new, good move to his kit. He was one of the characters I went back and forth on the most though, along with Ganon and Link.

    • @marshi7777
      @marshi7777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Hi TierZoo! Love your channel! Didn't know you played smash too!

    • @llucer3505
      @llucer3505 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      As a Bowser main, that fire breath is indeed ridiculous.

    • @yuh6132
      @yuh6132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@marshi7777 Um his entire channel is based on Smash Bros, what do you mean you didn't know?

    • @mrwaffleman8732
      @mrwaffleman8732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@yuh6132 not really, more videogames in general

  • @bedazzled6534
    @bedazzled6534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1893

    Thank you for putting dededes crouch as the best buff. It really is the biggest change.

    • @J-DawgTBH
      @J-DawgTBH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Best taunt in the game and it isn't even actually a taunt!

    • @Mr.Cynical
      @Mr.Cynical 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@J-DawgTBH
      He and Kirby are the only ones who can taunt online without teabagging.

    • @anexplosion5436
      @anexplosion5436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I do that crouch after ever kill, and I can feel the anger.

    • @snitchbug
      @snitchbug 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mr. Cynical
      wym just jiggle ur shield

    • @anexplosion5436
      @anexplosion5436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@snitchbug But that shows respect in that you bothered to learn a tech to taunt.
      With Dedede, you didn't even bother, you just hold down.

  • @cpudraner
    @cpudraner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +908

    Luigi's new grab is just marth's melee grab

    • @chase5654
      @chase5654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      No, it’s yoshi’s melee grab and sonic’s f-smash is marth’s melee grab.

    • @RealSuperMario64
      @RealSuperMario64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@chase5654 *Sonic's F-Smash is lazy af*

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can't compare marth melee grab is just sheer jank

    • @quadrewplex6782
      @quadrewplex6782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Melee marth grab but with actual logic

    • @cpudraner
      @cpudraner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@quadrewplex6782The logic was that marth had giraffe arms

  • @ThomasNGolf
    @ThomasNGolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1216

    Best move
    Filthy Casuals: K Rool gun
    Professionals: Pichu f-tilt
    True intellectuals: Dedede's crouch

    • @grieferjones2237
      @grieferjones2237 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Gods: Reverse Aerial Warlock Punch

    • @lokao9712
      @lokao9712 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Honestly,K rool gun is good but the crown is way better and 300x more oppressive.But as a K rool main I often do crown -> Gun só yeah he just has a really impressive projectile game
      Edit:still don’t think neither of them is the best of the game

    • @newzealanddoesntexist7505
      @newzealanddoesntexist7505 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Immortals: PK Freeze

    • @jacksontutt3439
      @jacksontutt3439 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Luigi down taunt

    • @yaboichase147
      @yaboichase147 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      God of gods:K Rool’s goony U-Smash

  • @steezmoney2998
    @steezmoney2998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    Double tapping b during Pokemon change to skip the cycle.... I can't stop thinking about how badly I want this now LOL great video!!

    • @bulborb8756
      @bulborb8756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but wouldnt that be pretty broken if they allowed that?

    • @SpectralDynamite
      @SpectralDynamite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Personally, I would rather the Pokemon Change be mapped the same way Inkling refills her tank, that being shield and special. That way, they could have an actual fourth, or rather fifth, special move (basically, Charizard could have Rock Smash back).

    • @nazukah2861
      @nazukah2861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SpectralDynamite Good idea, tho what would you make Ivy's and Squirtles down b?

    • @aquilonthepro8319
      @aquilonthepro8319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nazukah2861 Ideas: Squirtle's could be a whirlpool. It would pull opponents in as a multi hit with some range then have a finishing hit with low knock back and end lag, allowing him to combo out of it. I'm debating whether or not to let it be charged to give it kill potential and a slightly bigger hitbox so that it can scoop people from the ledge.
      For Ivysaur, I was thinking of a healing move, Synthesis. It lets you heal for as long as you want as long as you don't cancel it or get hit. The catch? It can only be used once per stock.

    • @TheAcer176
      @TheAcer176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SpectralDynamite But then, they couldn't change in the air

  • @cise3895
    @cise3895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +441

    For anyone wondering, the DK used for the Wii Fit combo started at 8%, then climbed to 45.3, 64.4, 81.7, and finally 120.2%
    Why

    • @blackmailed1072
      @blackmailed1072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I mean... *Insert obligatory Wii Fit MAINERs do not exist joke alongside bashing the character.*

    • @sersmiles1635
      @sersmiles1635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's a move that gives you buffed stats and allows Wii fit to do some serious damage, overall Wii fit getting faster moves fixed hitboxes up tilt invincibility and a solid combo game may be one of the most buffed characters, still struggles against small characters so still some issues

    • @blackmailed1072
      @blackmailed1072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sersmiles1635 I wish she didn't have as much of a rough time fighting small characters as she does right now, but I guess I'll just have to wait till she receives a buff.

    • @yourboy9236
      @yourboy9236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sersmiles1635 up tilt invincibility? Can you explain?

    • @imbowen9498
      @imbowen9498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wii Fit Mainer Here.
      Deep Breathing its cool 8) Literally buffs WFTrainer so bad♡
      But tbh im personally a fan of spamming balls and Saluting the sun☆
      Hope she recovers the Hula Hoop that she had in smash4, playing with WFT is almost playing in the corner and spamming balls while recovering or doing deep breathing + balls + Hula Hoop
      So sad Nintendo nerfed one of the coolest thing of Wii Fit, but at the same time buffed them with Ultimate☆
      Dont forget to drink water and do some exercises!♡

  • @setk1189
    @setk1189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1368

    Bayo's changes were a buff to the competitive smash scene.

    • @azophi
      @azophi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Can't argue with that logic lol, you're not wrong

    • @SomeSprites
      @SomeSprites 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah.

    • @rayminishi689
      @rayminishi689 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You can smell the salt off this comment.

    • @saucetto2016
      @saucetto2016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because people have to get punished for wanting to enjoy their fav character she needs to be buffed along with sheik they got ruined by this garbage balance team lmao

    • @sniff494
      @sniff494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@saucetto2016 Salty bayo main detected

  • @xanderbeckman3233
    @xanderbeckman3233 5 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    “PSI Magnet has a hit box now”
    Alpharad:

  • @gentlemandog4985
    @gentlemandog4985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Wait, what about Ike changes-
    10:05
    ooooh, the nair

    • @RealSuperMario64
      @RealSuperMario64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *Spam Nair win game*

    • @alolamao833
      @alolamao833 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, I’m not sure if it’s his most buffed move. I mean, yes, it’s broken, but it was already really good in smash 4. It centralized his gameplay in 4, and it still does in ultimate.
      IMO, as a smash 4 Ike main (I don’t main him in ultimate no more, he’s too braindead), I’d say his most buffed move is up air. In SSB4, up air was a decent helicopter swing with a long lasting hitbox that killed early, but it was small and slow. It wasn’t a juggle tool, it was more of a mixup kill option that you rarely used instead of up smash/up tilt.
      In ultimate, they gave him Marth up air, except it’s way bigger than SSB4 Ike up air, faster than SSB4 Ike up air, it kills just as early as SSB4 Ike, you can combo start with it, and you can combo into it (yes you could combo into SSB4 Ike up air, but it had like a 3% window)

    • @umtrain1730
      @umtrain1730 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@alolamao833 To be honest I can kind of agree to that. I've mained Ike since Brawl (Path of Radiance was and still is my favorite Fire Emblem, so him being in Smash was awesome.) and his Nair was never even a bad move. Sure, Nair wasn't Ike's entire gameplay in Brawl and Sm4sh, but it was still decent. Uair on the other hand I didn't really like. Memes aside, the Ike-copter is inferior in every single way to his new Uair.

    • @Ozukai
      @Ozukai 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *press nair to win*

    • @lexi3312
      @lexi3312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Catch. Ikes. New. Up air.
      Just had to say it

  • @sarasaland4709
    @sarasaland4709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    What’s better? Catch Ike’s new Neutral-Air?
    Catch Ike’s new Up-Air?
    Or Catch Ike’s new Neutral-Air to Up-Air Kill confirm?

    • @MrMockRock
      @MrMockRock  5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Yes.

    • @Xerxsion
      @Xerxsion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nair, because it confirms into like all aerials but dair. Even confirms into UpB for a spike or suicide

    • @smashgambits
      @smashgambits 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My only thing with this was that nair was pretty good in Smash4 as well. They just made a good move better. IMO the new aethercide mechanic is Ike's biggest change, because that's an entirely new option and makes him much safer offstage.

    • @luischeco3009
      @luischeco3009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Smash Gambits Aethercide isn't new either. Nair into imagination was in Smash 4. Ike was just slow.
      You could say his Up-Air is the best change, but it is LITERALLY the same as his old one. (Start-up at 11 frames as well)
      For me, SPEED is his best change. His jumpsquat being 3 frames is important because he relies on Aerials.

    • @smashgambits
      @smashgambits 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luischeco3009 Aethercide is absolutely new. Ike died first every time in Smash4, no matter what. So anyone could just come up and poke you with any move, because if Ike tried to hail-mary aether before he could snap to the ledge, he died. Now on the last stock, you have to respect the aether possibility and outspace it.
      And the hitbox is much better on the new upair, so even though it has the same startup I wouldn't say it's the same :)

  • @ajstrange1476
    @ajstrange1476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    As a Pit main, I respect Dark Pit getting into your intro🙏🏽

    • @MrMockRock
      @MrMockRock  5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Nair is...really, really fun!

    • @TheKreve
      @TheKreve 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nair is the reason i main pit/dark pit

    • @austinpowers3659
      @austinpowers3659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why not main paulutana instead, better nair acts the same

    • @yadajoku
      @yadajoku 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Y'all remember Pit's UpB in Brawl? Good times.

    • @ajstrange1476
      @ajstrange1476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Raptor Wolf - Forreal that was the best

  • @hdckighfkvhvgmk
    @hdckighfkvhvgmk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    Idk man "kirby the pink beyblade" sounds pretty menacing to me

    • @keylarous467
      @keylarous467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bruh

    • @EllipticalReasoning
      @EllipticalReasoning 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I just wish the giant hammer was a more reasonable option in competitive.

    • @oneasiangirl
      @oneasiangirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EllipticalReasoning they should’ve brought back the brawl kill power and lower the startup lag

  • @AquaLucario
    @AquaLucario 5 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    The best bayonetta change is that now I can play a character that I like without feeling guilty.

    • @pforgottonsoul
      @pforgottonsoul 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah but they sucked out all the enjoyment of playing her.

    • @AquaJet738
      @AquaJet738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Maxwell Scott Cloud is still a pretty viable character tbh

  • @wills4579
    @wills4579 5 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    All of Ganondorf is the best buff

    • @BensDumbHandle
      @BensDumbHandle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except his design. Downgrading him to his OoT design from TP was a major nerf.
      =P

    • @pavlox8099
      @pavlox8099 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Benjamin Dashie because to buff ganondorf, he had to switch illiterations

    • @momopenguins7335
      @momopenguins7335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      apart from ganoncide and his appearance I agree

    • @plompedu
      @plompedu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except for the fact that everyone hates him now...

    • @Yukon_83
      @Yukon_83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen

  • @reritheguy6756
    @reritheguy6756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    Finally a man of culture: refers to Robin as "they" and to Corrin as "she".

    • @yokaiju8909
      @yokaiju8909 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? They can both be both sexes.

    • @reritheguy6756
      @reritheguy6756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@yokaiju8909 t'is a meme.

    • @decidueyefan3844
      @decidueyefan3844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Everyone knows male corrin doesn’t exist

    • @calebwillis1131
      @calebwillis1131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@decidueyefan3844 me, who picks both versions: *MANIACAL LAUGHTER*

    • @Zekken_The_Lodestar
      @Zekken_The_Lodestar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@calebwillis1131 finally someone who doesn't discriminate fire emblem protagonist gender.

  • @dmfyre
    @dmfyre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    You could also interpret Dark pit and Pit’s arrow difference as a reference to how DP’s main weapon is a *sniper staff* in his games (although I still wish they would just give it to him besides his final smash)

    • @Nosretep
      @Nosretep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He only used it one in Uprising. But his other 3 Weapons in Chapter 6 should be in Smash.

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      no DP fought with a Silver Bow more often then any other weapon

    • @Nosretep
      @Nosretep 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Matanumi Thank you!

  • @starmaker75
    @starmaker75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    One thing I love about ulimate is how fair and diverse characters are. Also heavys are atucally viable! Especially Ike(high tier) and ganon(pretty good mid tier), hallelujah or hail satan for ganon case.

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Polandgod 75 Hey, Bowser represent!

    • @eyalsalminis5029
      @eyalsalminis5029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually bayo is the only character in ultimate that feels not viable

    • @Ferdoe
      @Ferdoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@eyalsalminis5029 Have you seen a good Bayo?

    • @zenbrown7144
      @zenbrown7144 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@eyalsalminis5029 Bayo is still good, just needs practice and such. There are a few very good Bayos in the pro scene.

    • @NZsaltz
      @NZsaltz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DK is one of the best heavies and he's way underrepresented. I think that a good DK is equal to an equally good Ganon just because of his combo game potential.

  • @DJTileTurnip
    @DJTileTurnip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    And this is where I put a good Bayonetta change
    *IF I HAD ONE*

    • @thefactspherefromportal2740
      @thefactspherefromportal2740 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *_Sakurai..._* 😒

    • @saucetto2016
      @saucetto2016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      For a balance team which balances a triple AAA game you would think they would know how to correctly nerf a character without giving it no good qualities LOOL

    • @slipknotfya
      @slipknotfya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@saucetto2016 they really did her dirty.

    • @terrytaylor7036
      @terrytaylor7036 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saucetto2016 you act like she's low tier garbage

    • @GameAW1
      @GameAW1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@terrytaylor7036 She is. Sure, she isn't as horrible as say Bowser Jr., but she's still a combo-focused character who fails to secure combos. That's like Little Mac: Has no air game as a downside to focus on his ground game. Problem is, his ground game is mediocre as well while still having no air game whatsoever.

  • @HugoStrpes
    @HugoStrpes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Bayonetta did have one buff, doesn't make up for her nerfs but...
    Bullet Climax is a rather solid edge-guarding tool that can kill when connecting to its sweet-spot.

    • @thoet7270
      @thoet7270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You are right, but there is a catch: it takes longer to fully charge and you can't shield mid charge, so you have to commit to it

    • @ryanfoley8897
      @ryanfoley8897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thoet7270 I also heard her divekick hitbox was buffed back to its pre patch hitbox

    • @alexlebeck8592
      @alexlebeck8592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m also pretty sure her f smash has more priority so now you aren’t clanking with jabs anymore

    • @slipknotfya
      @slipknotfya 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaaand now it's nerfed!

    • @slipknotfya
      @slipknotfya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexlebeck8592 nope. It still happens. Depends on the character though

  • @mairou996
    @mairou996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Holy the re done intro is sick

  • @doomedgundam6684
    @doomedgundam6684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    15:20
    Here's a good Bayo change.
    *She was Nerfed.*

  • @somafiora
    @somafiora 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    "If I had one!"
    I swear that made me laugh for longer than I would like to admit.
    Feelsbadman.jpg

  • @EclipseColdfire
    @EclipseColdfire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Not sure about all of you, but I just came here to hear good stuff about my main.

    • @puppet1466
      @puppet1466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mr. Coldfire *laughs in Bayo*

    • @gabrielkrows488
      @gabrielkrows488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me who mains a character new in ultimate

  • @CrowFGC
    @CrowFGC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’m crying, I clicked this video to see what you said about my main since brawl, Ike, and this made me laugh a ton lol

  • @joethebean
    @joethebean 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    5:39
    Nintendo: "Not anymore"
    Smash Community: Yay :]

  • @nickclark1815
    @nickclark1815 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Little Mac's recovery is better if you're opponent is bad at edge guarding.

  • @BrenX1
    @BrenX1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You should do this with the new characters, as a “coolest thing the New characters bring” sorta thing

  • @AverageHandle_
    @AverageHandle_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pikachu:
    *N A I R*

    • @plompedu
      @plompedu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      *N E U T R A L B*

  • @FOOD2o
    @FOOD2o 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    FINALLY I HAVE FOUND A FELLOW DARK PIT MAIN, WHAT UP MA DARK-WINGED BROTHER

  • @thecrimsoncreep6665
    @thecrimsoncreep6665 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The worst change in Ultimate was buffing Yoshi

    • @Fastwalker22
      @Fastwalker22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Snake, olimar, pokemon trainer, peach, sword charcters are all awful for yoshi to deal with.
      Yoshi is far from broken, and is severely overrated.

    • @thecrimsoncreep6665
      @thecrimsoncreep6665 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Fastwalker22
      I never said he was broken, he's just annoying as shit

    • @RinZDR
      @RinZDR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can taste the salt, want an up air?

    • @thecrimsoncreep6665
      @thecrimsoncreep6665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RinZDR
      You just tasted fossilized salt because this was a year ago

    • @RinZDR
      @RinZDR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Crimson Creep still salt.

  • @anexplosion5436
    @anexplosion5436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Dedede: Can now succccccccccc projectiles to send them back.
    I fought a snake once, and completely denied his Nikita Missile by spitting it back at him. Even though it made me fall under the stage if I was off the stage, Dedede can get back to the stage from down there with ease. And for some reason, if the missile went in through the top, it still got inhaled.

    • @Rhaemos
      @Rhaemos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love playing DDDs with chars like Wolf with a projectile + reflector, because just when they think they're smart by spitting my laser back at me I just reflect it and it deals insane damage. Serves them good for being so obnoxious with their crouch.

    • @bulborb8756
      @bulborb8756 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      unless you use the glitch that causes DDD to fire the projectile he inhales out of his ass which in my opinion is really funny

  • @NkIrmath2
    @NkIrmath2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Welcome back mockrock still love that intro

  • @steve-ovii6538
    @steve-ovii6538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ganondorf's best change was smash ultimate

  • @CapnShades
    @CapnShades 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a Pit main, I couldn't be happier with the changes. Now I'm also considering picking up Samus and Mii Swordfighter as well.

    • @EED1_evilsbane
      @EED1_evilsbane 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ace of Shades but u have an mk pfp

    • @CapnShades
      @CapnShades 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And?

    • @GabrielAidley
      @GabrielAidley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes
      Join the Mii Swordfighters

  • @jonathanrussell6525
    @jonathanrussell6525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was a lot of fun. I loved the Ike clip though TBH I was hoping to hear you geek out about him a bit. But hey, we had Who Are Ultimate's Biggest Winners for that. XD
    Also I need to figure out what the heck attack cancelling is now and see if it helps with Ike's endlag issues at all. XD

    • @MrMockRock
      @MrMockRock  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Check out My Smash Corner's video, he goes into a lot of detail on it.

    • @J-DawgTBH
      @J-DawgTBH 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Attack Canceling? You mean like the MSC video with tilt canceling and all that?

  • @metamayto
    @metamayto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:09. Not Phantom's fault? Guess he should be his own character.

  • @ochoforreals
    @ochoforreals 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never ask me for anything ever again.

    • @plompedu
      @plompedu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you please nerf
      Peach?
      And Daisy?
      And Snake?
      And Young Link?
      And Pikachu?
      And Lucina?
      And Ness?
      And Wolf?
      And Wario?
      And Palutena?

  • @thatunknowndoot
    @thatunknowndoot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I forgot lucario was a character tbh

  • @commercialchase8442
    @commercialchase8442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Come back in a year, and maybe the Ice Climbers are still busted."

  • @moody-Bayonetta
    @moody-Bayonetta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bayonettas Bullet Climax is actually pretty good
    Also, witch time's projectile activation range is great.
    Both of these moves were reworked

    • @slipknotfya
      @slipknotfya 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly, both moves also had mechanical nerfs. Neutral b cannot be canceled, so you need to commit. And witch time is the slowest counter in the game, it takes years to come out so sometimes you still get hit. Not to mention the insane amount of end lag it has.

    • @joanaguayoplanell4912
      @joanaguayoplanell4912 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slipknotfya Yup. Meanwhile, Greninja now kills you at 50 off a jab and one-shots you offstage for free. They essentially traded counters.

  • @littleanvil2164
    @littleanvil2164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *is 0.0000000001 seconds off the stage*
    lucas: omae wa mou freezeru

    • @plompedu
      @plompedu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No U
      *airdodge*

  • @suedonnym
    @suedonnym 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Finally a Dark Pit main. One of my kind.

  • @HunterX05
    @HunterX05 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A good Bayonetta change? Here's one, now it's actually possible to play against a Bayonetta user without breaking something via rage quit

  • @victortrinh2208
    @victortrinh2208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're saying you didn't say Up B for Cloud Strife from Fire Emblem?

  • @Sid-qs7vk
    @Sid-qs7vk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Okay, that “if I had one” ending was gold. Thanks for the video man

  • @FaustXVl
    @FaustXVl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lucario's aura was improved, but not enough. At zero, he's still not a character. His Fair does 3% ._.

  • @kawaharaizumi731
    @kawaharaizumi731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We're back after 11.0.1 and we're sorry for you, Wario.

  • @J-DawgTBH
    @J-DawgTBH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is where I'd put a good Bayonetta change...if I had one! XD
    For real though I think the best change is that they made her actually fun to watch and route for now.

    • @slipknotfya
      @slipknotfya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's the underdog now. Like it's actually too complicated to use her

  • @Amalga
    @Amalga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s worth mentioning that on top of the Aura normalization that Lucario got, he also got insane mobility buffs. He moves a lot faster now and he has some of the best air speed among the entire roster.
    Also grab is definitely Pac’s best change but his forward air was also made into an incredibly broken move for literally no reason. It’s frame 5, combos into itself, sets up for jab lock combos starting at 20%, confirms into Key and other moves if they miss their tech, is a ridiculous edge guarding tool and can wall of pain like Puff’s F-Air offstage.

    • @Amalga
      @Amalga 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't Subscribe to me I mean it’s not the best but it’s not really that bad in this game, especially since he gets reward off of it and can force shields with his projectiles

  • @tenemation458
    @tenemation458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dark pit main bois🤪🤪🤪🤪😎😎😎🐳🐳🐳

  • @Nokyyyyy
    @Nokyyyyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Mario's down air and down B are awesome tho (compared to the old ones)

  • @jarettiechroeb1399
    @jarettiechroeb1399 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best change: *DORIYAH!*

  • @Sakaki98
    @Sakaki98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s Ganondorf’s best buff?
    *YES*

  • @redduck6483
    @redduck6483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how Ike has no commentary and it’s just his nair combo

  • @J-DawgTBH
    @J-DawgTBH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice remade intro. I think I just noticed Sylvanos from Rivals of Aether was slipped in there, am I right?

  • @dusknoir64
    @dusknoir64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you whoever decided gale strike to hero spin was ok, I hope you stay employed forever.

    • @wing7320
      @wing7320 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      dusknoir64 it's probably the most idiotic kill confirm in the game.

  • @chessplayer6632
    @chessplayer6632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *Was Corrin main*
    *Can confirm*
    *_Nerfed to the ground_*
    A little dramatic, but I'm still sad 😭

  • @cammac6243
    @cammac6243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bayonetta’s downward afterburner kick in the air actually combos again

    • @phemsee5775
      @phemsee5775 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cam Mac yeah but sadly it can be punished easier due to increased lag :(

    • @slipknotfya
      @slipknotfya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it is only useful on standing opponents. Like wth. Why'd they make two different know backs for standing or airborne opponents. They should let both have the useful launch angle, considering how laggy and not useful the move is now.

  • @c4nvm
    @c4nvm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And this is where I’d put a good bayonetta change.
    *IF I HAD ONE*

  • @JoelTheParrot
    @JoelTheParrot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kirby Sm4sh dash attack wasn't bad, it's better than Melee's where you can easily die using it, but Ultimate's good kill power and ability to cover the ledge for some time is great.

  • @Hu-kun
    @Hu-kun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, they made Dark Pit's Silver Bow the closest to a non-final smash version of the Dark Pit Staff 0:
    (I love it, it's really gud)

  • @cable_yours_truly
    @cable_yours_truly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ooh he’s back FINALLY

  • @Sgt-Wolf
    @Sgt-Wolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "IF I HAD ONE!"
    Haha
    That joke is still funny.

  • @kasai9560
    @kasai9560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    THAT NEW INTRO GOD DAMN
    Hope you you're computer didn't wanna SD while making it this time.
    On a side note, I'm adore the needle storm angle change for sheik. I get she's no where near being good, but having the ability to stop a horizontal edge grab that leads to a kill move is amazing

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:06💀💀💀💀💀💀⚰️⚰️⚰️(LAOSBSLSIDMEEPIDOWEHVEEOER.)

  • @austinpowers3659
    @austinpowers3659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ike has an op nair thanks to the engine buff not a direct buff to him

    • @seabase3362
      @seabase3362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Have you seen his nair in smash 4 it was shit. It was a completely different move back then. They changed everything about his nair. It’s a direct buff not a engine buff.

  • @MikeDaddy
    @MikeDaddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There really isn’t anything good to say about Sheik, Charizard, Bayonetta, or Ken and it makes me sad

    • @pterogen3415
      @pterogen3415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ken wasn’t in Smash 4 . . .

    • @MikeDaddy
      @MikeDaddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GeneticConsole Still isn’t anything good to say about him

    • @pterogen3415
      @pterogen3415 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike-Daddy
      LOL! Actually though Ken isn’t that bad. At least, better than Ryu.

    • @MikeDaddy
      @MikeDaddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      GeneticConsole No he isn’t, his combos are not consistent and people fall out his attacks randomly

  • @lilangel1907
    @lilangel1907 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Meta knight's sword is longer
    👌

  • @purefire5172
    @purefire5172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mock Rock when making this video: 'Zero Suit Samus got hit pretty hard coming into Ultimate..."
    Marss: "I'm gonna end his man's career..."

  • @zerastardust1712
    @zerastardust1712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best change to Bayonetta is people will no longer hate you just for picking her.

    • @officialjokker124
      @officialjokker124 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, everyone still hates Bayonetta for literally no reason. Coming from a Bayo main

  • @marshtomp8
    @marshtomp8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Somehow I knew Charizard's buff would be some variation of "You can swap and not play charizard anymore!"

  • @wizzem7890
    @wizzem7890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's been a year. Nintendo still hasn't given me wobbling. It's hard out here for an Ice Climbers main.
    JUST GIVE ME WHAT I WANT. I ASK FOR SO LITTLE.

  • @q-miiproductions878
    @q-miiproductions878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:21 I forgot the Pits could aim their arrows upwards!

  • @lucaskoosa1198
    @lucaskoosa1198 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personally think that Mii brawlers best Buff is...
    MEGALOVANIA INTENSIFIES

  • @Someone-sq8im
    @Someone-sq8im 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    except lucina became good and marth became bad

  • @HeyItsAmper
    @HeyItsAmper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The changes to PK Freeze turned Lucas from a character I largely ignored in Brawl and didn't bother downloading in Smash 4 to one of my favourite characters in Ultimate.

  • @drakath5727
    @drakath5727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:00 HOW!? I have never seen or activated this before and this is news to me!

  • @robbiestrong-morse730
    @robbiestrong-morse730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Puff has the scariest jablock in the game. Change my mind please seriously I don't want to go back to a dies at zero and kills at zero enviorment.

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:18 WHHHHATTTT5

  • @JC101_Official
    @JC101_Official 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:50 I figured there was a reason I've been enjoying playing Pit more in Ultimate.
    Now I know.
    Thanks MockRock

  • @HDRookie
    @HDRookie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bowser's buffs are all great but the best change is definitely Flame Breath I think, even over Down Smash. It was nearly useless in Smash 4 and it's wicked now. Adding B reverses can surprise your opponents coming off platforms and do up to 40-50 damage if hit in the perfect spot. Doesn't give a shit about shields either. It's crazy.

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Nearly useless" is not what i'd call his old fire breath" but his new one is nasty

  • @Diembee
    @Diembee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Come back in a year and they might be busted”
    Icies is a big brain character, but yes they are busted now. Desync regrab combos can take a stock off of a single grab like wobbling, but it’s much harder and not infinite. Also 0-90% in one grab combo is disgusting, coupled with probably the easiest kill confirms in the game (up tilt up air)

  • @sasaki999pro
    @sasaki999pro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:20
    Yes. Fear me mortals for now is the time, the revival of my teenage xbox live gamer tag:
    *_xXxSn1perDEATHAng3lxXx_*

  • @danieltriana4228
    @danieltriana4228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Peach/Daisy main I approve.👸🏼 🍄

  • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
    @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you can tell that I'm happy.
    IF CORRIN GOT A- actually, scratch that. Sure, her specials got nerfed, but they're still quite useful and she is a solid Mid Tier. Besides, she'll possibly get buffs in the future. Then finally my three mains can truly wreak havoc!!

    • @hdckighfkvhvgmk
      @hdckighfkvhvgmk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, i don't like playing against corrin, but i guess yeah she can have some buffs...
      *anything but the counter PLEASE*