This is my quant. Your Who? My quantitative,my math specialist. Look at his face.His eyes.I will give you a hint. His name is Yang.He won an internstional math competition in China,he doesnt even speak english. So yeah.Im sure of the math.
Actually, my name’s Jung, and I do speak english. Jared likes to say it though because he thinks it makes me seem more authentic, and I got second in that national math competition
The traditional methods are still based on things like stochastic process. Machine learning is still new. Usually for the traders and researchers they hire those with good related statistics foundation and have them learn ML on the job if needed. There are also quant devs, which requires more experience with computer science and development
It is all nonsense. You cannot guess the price of anything in seconds. People have tried all forms of computer models to in predicting these types of data but at the end people always get caught out. Investment is all about identifying a business that has certain properties and then committing to that investment and then there is still not guarantee that you will succeed. The vast majority of investment methodologies are nonsense.
@@bighands69 well being quite tecnical about it if u speak about the possibilities of a particular event to happen, we ar speaking about something that lies in the future so the answer would be that all possibilities ar true, but u ll only know on the time of the observation. Ex: I am about to toss a coin, if i ask u to guess what would be the part facing forward, i say heads and u tails we ar both correct, but we ll only know when the coin stops and we observe the object at that given time.
same stuff. and this year many quant funds severely underperformed because their models haven't accounted for global pandemic scenarios, and the subsequent recovery years which are to come in the next maybe ~5 years. it will still be a while until quant funds really take over. non-quant funds like pershing square significantly outperformed quant counterparts in 2020.
@@willw1561 guess what markets recovered and turned into profit in less than 3 months from your comment it didn't take years and i believe the real crash is happening next month
Luke Ellis said that a computer with a human will outperform a computer at chess. This used to be true but is no longer valid, the new computer programs are so far beyond human level that humans don’t help.
People tend to think computers beat humans. But actually this isn't the case and can speak from experience in trading and who we trade for. People have simply no idea and give their hypothesis all the time... But it's a cool story to watch and hear
@@Cptblogh I agree, for many fields like trading, natural language processing or protein folding, humans are essential and beat computers. I was just referring to the simple game of chess.
So when everyone is using the same type of computer no one will be making excess profits. It will require a human to quantify what computers can't, rumors, market moods, geo politics etc.
@@tiffaniefranco780 Yea and goes by the name Michelle Robert, the best part about working with her is her competence, you're assured of consistent profitability.
I don't believe so, at the end of the day the financial instituations still have to move the market to make a profit. The entries are still there and if you know what your'e looking at you can put probability on your side. I've probably done about 10 years of backtests on 4hr charts using some entry strategies that I've learned over the past few years and I don't at all feel like I'm unprofitable. In fact when these institutions arent as active over the holidays, thats when I have my most terrible trades in forex. I need them to trade to make big wins. Ofcourse I need to make that show on my real account that im trying to trade for a prop fund over the next 6 months, that will tell me if what I know counts.
As mentioned. You can take advantage of the robots and zap a little of their profit when they start pumping the price if you predict when and pre-empt.
The computer is the man thoughts . The man created the algorithm it’s just set to buy/sell based what the coder has set . One thing computers will always needs is electricity so humans will always win .
@@rinmlo Clearly you do not understand the markets. They are not predictable. Even when governments have tried to control them with 100% certainty they always become uncertain. To control the markets would require the simultaneous knowledge of every human on earth. Could you imagine the amount of data that would require and there maybe emergent properties that are foreseen with the fancy machine learning.
Machine learning strategies are much different from rule-based strategie. We're talking about strategies and about how to use data to make trading decisions not discussing about the market.
Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant. - I just used machine learning and AI to post this comment. I'm light years ahead of all the other commenters.
Nik W you make a whole assumption of who I am just based on a few words I said? People like you are the reason I carry a stress ball with me all the time
@@KarlKrogmann U now own the rights to one of the Canvas Gold Bar Paintings Value by time is 500,000 - 1,350,000 Bucks Pick one with no owner on it not a joke.
Don't MACD scanners already exist? It's pretty easy to find dips using thinkorswim. 1) You literally just use a MACD scanner and sort by the extreme dips. 2) look at its 5-year trend. Is it a dying company or a growing company? 3) finally find out the reason for the dip through news. If everything checks out. BUY IT Been making 200-500 a day using monthly debit spreads. With a $5000 account (started investing a few months ago as a poor college student) Who knows maybe I might run into a hiccup eventually.
391 / 5 000 Résultats de traduction This is exactly what we do with Bombe Capital, inspired by Alan Turign, as well as Simons, a group of top scientists decided to get together to design algorithmic models that predict with unmatched accuracy the perfect highs and lows in financial markets and cryptocurrencies, which we are achieving and we are going to create a revolution in the world of investments.
2:15 "But a good human with a good computer will beat a computer most of the time" This is actually false, it's been researched before and the best strategy for a human is to play what the computer tells you
You have no idea what you're talking about. ML is not just an algorithm and neither has anything to do with high frequency trading. You can use ML and hold trades for months.
Hmmm there are too many people on that place to be a quant trading company,,,, at least should be only 4 or 6 workers over there.... cause of automated processes,,, that’s the benefit of algorithms you don’t have to pay people for sitting some hours wasting time and earning money by doing nothing..... some independents make more pips than too many institutional the only difference is the amount of money and leverage on our trades,,,,
true story , we dont have music lesson at 1-2pm to keep people happy, but they work hard on our technology just because they believe it will work. and we kick those "quant funds" in 4 people plus some external coders. just launching now after 7 years of development and testing( 7 years of fails on real money) wish us a luck.
What a clueless comment. They trade all around the world from Japanese equities to exotic currencies to corn futures. Each has different regulations, volatile margins, infrastructure.
They are not stupid nor cheap. They make more than most people. Check your facts and don't blame them for working hard. If you are using google, there's a nerd working to keep it running.
I think he meams as in the human always makes the program. So a good computer will beat a good human, but humans will just make a better program to beat that.
@@Alexzw92 They have access to all the data that these firms do, they just lack the infrastructure and knowledge to make use of the data the way these companies do which is not illegal by any law
You are naive if you think they can rig markets. The one thing that markets have taught us over thousands of years is nobody can predict them. Kings have tried to control them, governments have tried to manipulate markets, investors have tried to create their own markets and guess what they have failed every single time. These computer models are nonsense at best. They cannot predict the markets any better than a 4 year old child can.
@@bighands69 You sure? Theres things called social trading these days where you can follow a trader and the app will automatically copy his portfolio for you. Now imagine gaining thousands of followers then buying a specific stock with high price. One can pump the market single handedly without even putting much money himself.
Nobody is going to show up to watch a computer play games. What a waste of money on that computer it's just proof of people are dumb with their money. Who paid for that stupid thing to be built? If your mathematical team is so smart why couldn't they just work for themselves and become successful at the stock market?... lmfao. Let me guess they prefer to give the money they could have made to the company. Great job you hired a bunch of people who couldn't figure out they had the skills to beat the market and now they work for you for less then half of what they could have made.
@@TomzaBKewl Sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention to . I was just pointing out that the market is about people taking part in the monetary structure of a nation/country, freedom.
@hi Not enough for my comment to be taken as investment advice. I'd rather think about my comment representing more of a question for constructive debate to gain a better understanding of market activity. My smarty pants comment came from a place of ignorance and frustration. I'm working on recognizing my faults admitting to my ignorance and learning how I can move forward on the path to enlightenment.
What will happen? Quants kicking out human traders because they can't win no more. Then it's gonna be Quant VS Quant and no money to be taken from humans. Just funds takin money from each other? Doesn't sound too good and trading might be dying
You buy the dip but forget the dippity dip. Buying dips is not a strategy there are multiday runners. Stocks that you want to get in early like mara. Ran from 5 to 25 in a couple weeks. Just buy the stock.
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This is my quant.
Your Who?
My quantitative,my math specialist.
Look at his face.His eyes.I will give you a hint.
His name is Yang.He won an internstional math competition in China,he doesnt even speak english.
So yeah.Im sure of the math.
He speaks quant and the quant is good.
Best movie ever
the way he emphasizes "MY QUANTITATIVE" kills me every time. 😂 😂
Actually, my name’s Jung, and I do speak english. Jared likes to say it though because he thinks it makes me seem more authentic, and I got second in that national math competition
"That's kind of racist"
The traditional methods are still based on things like stochastic process. Machine learning is still new. Usually for the traders and researchers they hire those with good related statistics foundation and have them learn ML on the job if needed. There are also quant devs, which requires more experience with computer science and development
This is why investors should hold long and traders shouldn’t hold for more than a few hours
STTTTTonkSss😏
Not at all, all my trades are held on 4 hour charts. I have trouble making profits when institutions ARENT buying and selling.
@@quintonmaldonado8368
You are not investing if 4 hours is your period of trade.
@@bighands69 Who said i was claming to, I was responding to the second portion of his statement.
@@quintonmaldonado8368 I doubt you make consistent profit like HFT Hedge funds.
Where’s navinder Singh when you need him 😂
Sarao*
Jailed for beating headge funds at their own fucking game.
Under house arrest for outsmarting them
@StonkSlayd yes he was
What's this joke about
Min job requirement Phd in Computer Science.
I have a MSc in quantitative finance only
It is all nonsense.
You cannot guess the price of anything in seconds. People have tried all forms of computer models to in predicting these types of data but at the end people always get caught out.
Investment is all about identifying a business that has certain properties and then committing to that investment and then there is still not guarantee that you will succeed.
The vast majority of investment methodologies are nonsense.
@@bighands69 well being quite tecnical about it if u speak about the possibilities of a particular event to happen, we ar speaking about something that lies in the future so the answer would be that all possibilities ar true, but u ll only know on the time of the observation. Ex:
I am about to toss a coin, if i ask u to guess what would be the part facing forward, i say heads and u tails we ar both correct, but we ll only know when the coin stops and we observe the object at that given time.
@@mvgsv168 quantitative analysis alone wouldn't give accurate results unless you use qualitative analysis too.
@@bighands69 You dont know what your talking about
Thanks, nice report. Ms. Picker -- tops in her field and a real asset for CNBC.
ASSet
No its taking over the trading industry not the investing industry
same stuff. and this year many quant funds severely underperformed because their models haven't accounted for global pandemic scenarios, and the subsequent recovery years which are to come in the next maybe ~5 years. it will still be a while until quant funds really take over. non-quant funds like pershing square significantly outperformed quant counterparts in 2020.
@@willw1561 guess what markets recovered and turned into profit in less than 3 months from your comment it didn't take years and i believe the real crash is happening next month
Pay to win
Underrated
Free to Trade
And as a value investor, I am quite happy!
Luke Ellis said that a computer with a human will outperform a computer at chess. This used to be true but is no longer valid, the new computer programs are so far beyond human level that humans don’t help.
Human traders outperformed computers during the COVID crash and subsequent recovery. Kind of insane
@@samsmith3464 that's really interesting could you provide the source ?
People tend to think computers beat humans. But actually this isn't the case and can speak from experience in trading and who we trade for. People have simply no idea and give their hypothesis all the time... But it's a cool story to watch and hear
@@Cptblogh I agree, for many fields like trading, natural language processing or protein folding, humans are essential and beat computers. I was just referring to the simple game of chess.
So when everyone is using the same type of computer no one will be making excess profits. It will require a human to quantify what computers can't, rumors, market moods, geo politics etc.
A man ain't nothing but a man, but before quant machine can beat my returns, I'II die with a trade order in my hand.
Deep
Yes... you will.
it is killing the small cap traders its what ive done in the past and what i still watch and getting back into in jan 19
Matias Sanchez Wilson that was then small caps had a big run this year where you can see dollars instead of just dimes in play
Man, I really hope Navinder Sarao comes out of the shadows and destroys these quant firms like he did the HFT firms
could you explain?
@@jambalaya201 th-cam.com/video/_ZDEWVJan0s/w-d-xo.html
Why what he did was a crime right ?
@@raysshine3504 Yes, but HFT's and Quant Firms also do crimes, but their crimes "help the market" so nobody says anything.
@@DisarMn Okay
Bogdanoff...
He bout?
Dump eeeit
If after getting your stimulus check and you don't invest in yourself to make more then something is definately wrong with you.
The lockdown season is a good time to invest in passive income as no one knows when the lockdown ends.
Damn right, l work with an asset manager and i can testify that's the best way to profit from the Trading Stock and Crypto
@@meganwalko3477 how do i reach your trader
@@tiffaniefranco780 Yea and goes by the name Michelle Robert, the best part about working with her is her competence, you're assured of consistent profitability.
@@tiffaniefranco780 her whtapp +17164953214
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Where’s Jack Ma?
Prob getting killed and hen cloned and sent back out
I NEED ANSWERS
wow, the reporter was way too distracting, i was here for the quants
That quants probably have women just as good looking as the reporter.
Ffs! Go to horny jail
Rip day traders
How to kill those machines? I miss the old days
You can still get an edge.
I don't believe so, at the end of the day the financial instituations still have to move the market to make a profit. The entries are still there and if you know what your'e looking at you can put probability on your side. I've probably done about 10 years of backtests on 4hr charts using some entry strategies that I've learned over the past few years and I don't at all feel like I'm unprofitable. In fact when these institutions arent as active over the holidays, thats when I have my most terrible trades in forex. I need them to trade to make big wins. Ofcourse I need to make that show on my real account that im trying to trade for a prop fund over the next 6 months, that will tell me if what I know counts.
Well hey , there's always pump and dump, lol
As mentioned.
You can take advantage of the robots and zap a little of their profit when they start pumping the price if you predict when and pre-empt.
I remember when people used to make money
The computer is the man thoughts . The man created the algorithm it’s just set to buy/sell based what the coder has set . One thing computers will always needs is electricity so humans will always win .
... the sun🤷♂️
Clearly you don’t understand machine learning.
@@rinmlo
Clearly you do not understand the markets. They are not predictable. Even when governments have tried to control them with 100% certainty they always become uncertain.
To control the markets would require the simultaneous knowledge of every human on earth. Could you imagine the amount of data that would require and there maybe emergent properties that are foreseen with the fancy machine learning.
@@bighands69 That's not the point you were making in your comment, that I was responding to.
Machine learning strategies are much different from rule-based strategie. We're talking about strategies and about how to use data to make trading decisions not discussing about the market.
Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant, Quant. - I just used machine learning and AI to post this comment. I'm light years ahead of all the other commenters.
Good video
Nerds..... so many nerds.
Archie Archius But very rich
What are you doing with your life Chad ?
Loïc Desroches oh shut the fuck up
@@ChristosAnesti33 probably a white or black guy who is very poor
Nik W you make a whole assumption of who I am just based on a few words I said?
People like you are the reason I carry a stress ball with me all the time
Net income in 2020 down more than 50% than 2019 that’s bad even for the pandemic.
Someome rpg the place
Wow. Never heard of quant trading until today. Admittedly i am fairly new to trading but this is quite interesting👍
But what ml are they using? lstm? kernels? CNN? what the ml can predict or classify? volatility? trend? average price?
Watch Bloomberg’s report on quant funds, there the man group CIO explains what and how
bongoritus do you have a link for this?
I've had decent results with a deep LSTM classification net.
@@bongoritus
Quant fund are pure nonsense.
So sad ... destroying the industry ..
Awesome
so computers do all the trading and there is a room full of traders..hmm..
and performance? prob disappoing
My Art goes up $1440 everyday & you don't need a Quant
I like werewolf movies!
@@KarlKrogmann U now own the rights to one of the Canvas Gold Bar Paintings Value by time is 500,000 - 1,350,000 Bucks
Pick one with no owner on it not a joke.
@@JOSEPHCHARLESCOLIN2024 You're an idiot.
Leslie is cute
so wall street is a bunch of introverts with permanent wedgies from high school. that’s what i thought
Quant is just another version of “wild fucking guess” with math 🥴
Don't MACD scanners already exist? It's pretty easy to find dips using thinkorswim.
1) You literally just use a MACD scanner and sort by the extreme dips.
2) look at its 5-year trend. Is it a dying company or a growing company?
3) finally find out the reason for the dip through news.
If everything checks out. BUY IT
Been making 200-500 a day using monthly debit spreads. With a $5000 account (started investing a few months ago as a poor college student)
Who knows maybe I might run into a hiccup eventually.
can you program it to run on its own
You are onto something
Please create a video showcasing this method so we can all improve upon it. Thank you.
Update: I did hit hiccups along the way XD.
So stop replying for code. It only works till it doesnt.
391 / 5 000
Résultats de traduction
This is exactly what we do with Bombe Capital, inspired by Alan Turign, as well as Simons, a group of top scientists decided to get together to design algorithmic models that predict with unmatched accuracy the perfect highs and lows in financial markets and cryptocurrencies, which we are achieving and we are going to create a revolution in the world of investments.
no wonder markets quiet at lunchtime
Music lesson part is a stunt 😀
2:15 "But a good human with a good computer will beat a computer most of the time"
This is actually false, it's been researched before and the best strategy for a human is to play what the computer tells you
And who tells the computer what to do? The human?
Holy sht you are dumb as rocks.
@@paypalservices2724 the computer analyses the data
@@paypalservices2724 The computer executes the trades without emotion.
Did you even watch the video? Do you know what machine learning is?
there are enough anti-engine chess strats. Human is required for basic AI for sure
Instead of trading. Invest the old fashioned way. Don't look to make your fortune in 1 month or 1 year.
did i just see sam altman at 0:40
Machine Learning or Artificial Intelligence is just High Frequency or an algorithm computer program.
wow...computers are just blocks of resistors
You have no idea what you're talking about. ML is not just an algorithm and neither has anything to do with high frequency trading. You can use ML and hold trades for months.
@@dileeperik8041 lmao
You aren't suppose to talk on anything you don't have any idea on it.
Take your time and learn before spreading nonsense.
@@dileeperik8041 wow... resistors are just a bunch of atoms
Computer has no soul.
Quant a Hedge fund strategy 🤔
A complete AI assisted automated trading system. Forget breaks take the whole day of 🤖$$$
Hit the quant
machine is only a tool to help human judgement. its always the human can better assist the situation.
Hmmm there are too many people on that place to be a quant trading company,,,, at least should be only 4 or 6 workers over there.... cause of automated processes,,, that’s the benefit of algorithms you don’t have to pay people for sitting some hours wasting time and earning money by doing nothing..... some independents make more pips than too many institutional the only difference is the amount of money and leverage on our trades,,,,
true story , we dont have music lesson at 1-2pm to keep people happy, but they work hard on our technology just because they believe it will work. and we kick those "quant funds" in 4 people plus some external coders. just launching now after 7 years of development and testing( 7 years of fails on real money) wish us a luck.
Play Girls good luck and happy new year :)
The video said it was the 3rd largest hedge fund in the world. Obviously, there are going to be alot of people working there....
Then who's gonna read the research paper on machine learning that comes out every day, and test them? Who is gonna do research on the market?
What a clueless comment. They trade all around the world from Japanese equities to exotic currencies to corn futures. Each has different regulations, volatile margins, infrastructure.
stupid and cheap labour should be exploited no matter what where it works doesn't matter if the company is hf or in google
They are not stupid nor cheap. They make more than most people. Check your facts and don't blame them for working hard. If you are using google, there's a nerd working to keep it running.
2:15 not really. don't know if he pulled that out of his rear end.
I think he meams as in the human always makes the program. So a good computer will beat a good human, but humans will just make a better program to beat that.
Honestly, how is this legal?
Why shouldn't it be? There is no insider trading goin on here
@@pranav7471 retail investors don't have access to this. Seems like an unfair advantage.
@@Alexzw92 They have access to all the data that these firms do, they just lack the infrastructure and knowledge to make use of the data the way these companies do which is not illegal by any law
Overacting host 😁
Quants fucked up big time in 2020... LOL !!!
That guy was playing the strings the wrong way.
AI are not successful in the stock market. They never have done wel
Yes but they’re getting better
@@abdullahal-shimri3091 Naw, they are just in a bull market
Wow are you wrong.
what??? you mean the game is rigged, ill go find another outlet to gamble with, back to roulette, black odd
You are naive if you think they can rig markets. The one thing that markets have taught us over thousands of years is nobody can predict them.
Kings have tried to control them, governments have tried to manipulate markets, investors have tried to create their own markets and guess what they have failed every single time.
These computer models are nonsense at best. They cannot predict the markets any better than a 4 year old child can.
@@bighands69 The system in which markets function is rigged, market participants don't play by the rules. It's a wonder that we still have markets!
@@bighands69 You sure? Theres things called social trading these days where you can follow a trader and the app will automatically copy his portfolio for you. Now imagine gaining thousands of followers then buying a specific stock with high price. One can pump the market single handedly without even putting much money himself.
Nobody is going to show up to watch a computer play games. What a waste of money on that computer it's just proof of people are dumb with their money. Who paid for that stupid thing to be built? If your mathematical team is so smart why couldn't they just work for themselves and become successful at the stock market?... lmfao. Let me guess they prefer to give the money they could have made to the company. Great job you hired a bunch of people who couldn't figure out they had the skills to beat the market and now they work for you for less then half of what they could have made.
What an astonishing misinterpretation of the role these people play in the fund.
@@TomzaBKewl Sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention to . I was just pointing out that the market is about people taking part in the monetary structure of a nation/country, freedom.
@hi Not enough for my comment to be taken as investment advice. I'd rather think about my comment representing more of a question for constructive debate to gain a better understanding of market activity. My smarty pants comment came from a place of ignorance and frustration. I'm working on recognizing my faults admitting to my ignorance and learning how I can move forward on the path to enlightenment.
Looks like google
oh does it ?
What will happen? Quants kicking out human traders because they can't win no more. Then it's gonna be Quant VS Quant and no money to be taken from humans. Just funds takin money from each other? Doesn't sound too good and trading might be dying
Wonderfully articulate.
there is no special pattern in dips. you just buy the dip
Well, there's the dips and then there's the Nikola dips!
You buy the dip but forget the dippity dip. Buying dips is not a strategy there are multiday runners. Stocks that you want to get in early like mara. Ran from 5 to 25 in a couple weeks. Just buy the stock.
@@XenogearsPS aye, aye, sir
the host’s hot…
Lol I made the 2kth like. Studying to join my fellow nerds soon.
Wtf🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
Aaaaaand they got wiped in 2020 😂