I've recently sent an email from Singapore for a request of the Valera 1602P. Cause there are Spanish speaking ppl in my church. Am I able to receive it from here in SG?
I have a question. The title of the book of Revelations. Why use 'Apocalypsis" and not "Revalacion'? Why did they change it from "Revelacion' to 'Apocalypsis', when it is not the book of the Apocalyps, but the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ?
Because the name in Greek is Apocalypse of John and the New Testament was written in Greek. So the KJV is the one that changed it into Revelations and it stuck, but that’s not the name of the Book. Also, it would be Revelaciones in plural, not Revelación.
Which KJV, by the way? The 1611, 1612, 1628, 1769 or 1865? The 1611 contained the Deuterocanonicals and did so until 1865. The 1909 is by far the best Bible ever printed in the Spanish language, alongside, probably, the Jerusalem translation into Spanish.
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The 1602 read closer to the King James? You mean to say that 1611 came before 1602...? The King James translators consulted the Reina Valera, for crying out loud! Perhaps you ought to say that the King James departed from the Reina Valera and not the other way around.
Problem minute #7:21 Actually, in Isaiah 14:12 it should say Lucifer, NOT lucero!! Because "lucero" means star!! I know because I use to have a couple of friends in Mexico that were girls!! Their mom named them "Lucero"!! The thing is that if they knew that was the devil's name, would they name their daughters that?? "Lucero" is a very common girl's name in Spanish!! Everyone in Mexico knows Satan's name is "Lucifer" and NOT "Lucero"!!!
@Guillermo de Orange Lucifer was his name BEFORE he was expelled from heaven!! "Morning star" is a title reserved for Jesus Christ only!! Are you saying that the one that got thrown out of heaven was Jesus and not Lucifer, aka the devil?!? Revelation 22:16 KJV I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I AM the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and MORNING STAR.
@Guillermo de Orange All I'm saying is that "morning star" shouldn't be in Isaiah 14:12 because that's the story of the devil being expelled from heaven!! I don't care what "history books" say!! Jesus called Himself the "Morning star"!! That's what the Bible says, and that's Jesus talking in Revelation 22:16!! For me, the Bible is my final authority, not a history book!! So, it should say LUCIFER, NOT MORNING STAR!! ENGLISH IS ALSO MY SECOND LANGUAGE!!
@Guillermo de Orange It has a double meaning!! It applies in part to the king of Babylon, but it's also a picture of the devil's demise and expulsion from heaven!!
@Guillermo de Orange I don't care what "John Calvin"says about it because he was an unsaved devil! To me, it's like wanting to see what the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses say about it!! It's not relevant because John Calvin's writings ARE NOT GOD'S WORD!!
@johnnyvans_77 • 25s ago KJV IS THE PURE WORD OF GOD IM A FILIPINO AND TAGALOG BIBLE IS CORRUPTED AND GOD LEAD ME TO READ KJV BIBLE I BELIEVE THAT GOD USE ENGLISH LANGUAGE TO PRESERVE HIS WORD BECAUSE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS THE MOST SPOKEN UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE OF THIS WORLD EVEN ANY NATIONALITY READ KJV BIBLE BACAUSE KJV BIBLE IS PURE WORD PRAISE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HIS REVEAL TRUTH PRESERVE PURE WORD, KJV IS MATHEMATICAL PERFECTION AND WITHOUT ERROR,KJV AROUND THE WORLD 🌍🔥✝️🇮🇱🇺🇸🇵🇭🇯🇵🇿🇼🏴🇦🇴🇦🇼🇹🇯🇸🇩🇬🇧🇹🇭🇺🇾🇰🇷🇻🇦🇷🇪🏴❤
Actually, the KJV is frought with translational errors, but that is another discussion (I HATE W&H, btw). The KJV says that the wine in the marriage feast was, indeed, fermented. NEW wine is JUICE. WINE is Fermented. See, the KJV: Joh 2:8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it. Joh 2:9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, Joh 2:10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. Joh 2:11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him. See verse 10? see 'well drunk'? BE CORRECTED: G3184 μεθύω methuō meth-oo'-o From another form of G3178; to drink to intoxication, that is, get drunk: - drink well, make (be) drunk (-en). No one gets intoxicated from juice! What did Jesus say about wine vs juice? Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish. Luk 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved. Luk 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better. The reason for new skins for new wine? do you have ANY learning in this truth? The Reason is because the juice (new wine) ferments, and the gas stretches the wine skin causing it expand. if new juice is put into an old skin, then when ti ferments, it bursts and the fermenting liquid and the skin are both ruined. the idea of the wine skin was a place TO FERMENT JUICE! i am SO sick of ignorants pretending to be knowledgeable and worse, liars who wish to push their personal prejudice onto others and lyingly claim that it is 'in the Bible'
@What saith the scripture? proverbs 16:4 The correct translation is God has made all to give answer, even the wicked for evil times. The is no linguistic manner to change a VERB into the prepositional phrase, for himself.
@What saith the scripture? I gave the English. In no language on the planet, dies the verb, to answer, become the prepositional phrase, "for himself". It is not linguistically possible!
@What saith the scripture? the verb is answer or respond. YOU are the wrong on, sir! The root, converted to a noun is an answer or responder. Neither is a preposition And neither is linguistically related to the prepositional phrase rendered. But now that I know you of the ungodly cult of KJVO, I have no further reason to engage.
@What saith the scripture? ALL LANGUAGES have their meanings derived from roots, suffixes and prefixes and while a word may, in any language have more than one meaning, context sorts that out. ALL LANGUAGES. Saying, "Hebrew" does this makes it seem like you are saying it, alone, differs from all other languages, hight disingenuous.
I've recently sent an email from Singapore for a request of the Valera 1602P. Cause there are Spanish speaking ppl in my church. Am I able to receive it from here in SG?
I have a question. The title of the book of Revelations. Why use 'Apocalypsis" and not "Revalacion'? Why did they change it from "Revelacion' to 'Apocalypsis', when it is not the book of the Apocalyps, but the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ?
Well back then many bibles had called the final book in the bible apocalypse
Because the name in Greek is Apocalypse of John and the New Testament was written in Greek. So the KJV is the one that changed it into Revelations and it stuck, but that’s not the name of the Book. Also, it would be Revelaciones in plural, not Revelación.
God Bless you Robert Breaker.
Which KJV, by the way? The 1611, 1612, 1628, 1769 or 1865? The 1611 contained the Deuterocanonicals and did so until 1865. The 1909 is by far the best Bible ever printed in the Spanish language, alongside, probably, the Jerusalem translation into Spanish.
1611
@johnnyvans_77 • 25s ago
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CORRUPTED AND GOD LEAD ME TO READ KJV BIBLE I BELIEVE THAT GOD USE ENGLISH LANGUAGE TO PRESERVE HIS WORD BECAUSE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS THE MOST SPOKEN UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE OF THIS WORLD EVEN ANY NATIONALITY READ
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@johnnyvans_77 • 25s ago
KJV IS THE PURE WORD OF GOD IM A FILIPINO AND TAGALOG BIBLE IS
CORRUPTED AND GOD LEAD ME TO READ KJV BIBLE I BELIEVE THAT GOD USE ENGLISH LANGUAGE TO PRESERVE HIS WORD BECAUSE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS THE MOST SPOKEN UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE OF THIS WORLD EVEN ANY NATIONALITY READ
KJV BIBLE BACAUSE KJV BIBLE IS PURE WORD PRAISE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HIS REVEAL TRUTH PRESERVE PURE WORD, KJV IS MATHEMATICAL PERFECTION AND WITHOUT ERROR,KJV AROUND THE WORLD 🌍 🔥✝️🇮🇱🇺🇸🇵🇭🇯🇵🇹🇯🇹🇯🇦🇷🇬🇧🇹🇼🇹🇭🇺🇿🇪🇭🇺🇾🇦🇴🇰🇷🇦🇮🇿🇼🇻🇦
@ministercreek I have some 1602 PUrified SPanisH Bibles available. Please email me at:
robertbreaker3@hotmail.com
The 1602 read closer to the King James? You mean to say that 1611 came before 1602...? The King James translators consulted the Reina Valera, for crying out loud! Perhaps you ought to say that the King James departed from the Reina Valera and not the other way around.
Problem minute #7:21
Actually, in Isaiah 14:12 it should say Lucifer, NOT lucero!! Because "lucero" means star!! I know because I use to have a couple of friends in Mexico that were girls!! Their mom named them "Lucero"!! The thing is that if they knew that was the devil's name, would they name their daughters that?? "Lucero" is a very common girl's name in Spanish!! Everyone in Mexico knows Satan's name is "Lucifer" and NOT "Lucero"!!!
@Guillermo de Orange
Lucifer was his name BEFORE he was expelled from heaven!! "Morning star" is a title reserved for Jesus Christ only!! Are you saying that the one that got thrown out of heaven was Jesus and not Lucifer, aka the devil?!?
Revelation 22:16 KJV
I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I AM the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and MORNING STAR.
@Guillermo de Orange
All I'm saying is that "morning star" shouldn't be in Isaiah 14:12 because that's the story of the devil being expelled from heaven!! I don't care what "history books" say!! Jesus called Himself the "Morning star"!! That's what the Bible says, and that's Jesus talking in Revelation 22:16!! For me, the Bible is my final authority, not a history book!! So, it should say LUCIFER, NOT MORNING STAR!!
ENGLISH IS ALSO MY SECOND LANGUAGE!!
@Guillermo de Orange
It has a double meaning!! It applies in part to the king of Babylon, but it's also a picture of the devil's demise and expulsion from heaven!!
@Guillermo de Orange
I don't care what "John Calvin"says about it because he was an unsaved devil! To me, it's like wanting to see what the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses say about it!! It's not relevant because John Calvin's writings ARE NOT GOD'S WORD!!
@johnnyvans_77 • 25s ago
KJV IS THE PURE WORD OF GOD IM A FILIPINO AND TAGALOG BIBLE IS
CORRUPTED AND GOD LEAD ME TO READ KJV BIBLE I BELIEVE THAT GOD USE ENGLISH LANGUAGE TO PRESERVE HIS WORD BECAUSE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS THE MOST SPOKEN UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE OF THIS WORLD EVEN ANY NATIONALITY READ
KJV BIBLE BACAUSE KJV BIBLE IS PURE WORD PRAISE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HIS REVEAL TRUTH PRESERVE PURE WORD, KJV IS MATHEMATICAL PERFECTION AND WITHOUT ERROR,KJV AROUND THE WORLD 🌍🔥✝️🇮🇱🇺🇸🇵🇭🇯🇵🇿🇼🏴🇦🇴🇦🇼🇹🇯🇸🇩🇬🇧🇹🇭🇺🇾🇰🇷🇻🇦🇷🇪🏴❤
Actually, the KJV is frought with translational errors, but that is another discussion (I HATE W&H, btw). The KJV says that the wine in the marriage feast was, indeed, fermented. NEW wine is JUICE. WINE is Fermented. See, the KJV:
Joh 2:8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.
Joh 2:9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
Joh 2:10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
Joh 2:11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.
See verse 10? see 'well drunk'?
BE CORRECTED:
G3184
μεθύω
methuō
meth-oo'-o
From another form of G3178; to drink to intoxication, that is, get drunk: - drink well, make (be) drunk (-en).
No one gets intoxicated from juice!
What did Jesus say about wine vs juice?
Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
Luk 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
Luk 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.
The reason for new skins for new wine? do you have ANY learning in this truth?
The Reason is because the juice (new wine) ferments, and the gas stretches the wine skin causing it expand. if new juice is put into an old skin, then when ti ferments, it bursts and the fermenting liquid and the skin are both ruined. the idea of the wine skin was a place TO FERMENT JUICE!
i am SO sick of ignorants pretending to be knowledgeable and worse, liars who wish to push their personal prejudice onto others and lyingly claim that it is 'in the Bible'
@What saith the scripture? proverbs 16:4
The correct translation is
God has made all to give answer, even the wicked for evil times.
The is no linguistic manner to change a VERB into the prepositional phrase, for himself.
@What saith the scripture? I gave the English. In no language on the planet, dies the verb, to answer, become the prepositional phrase, "for himself". It is not linguistically possible!
You asked for one. I gave you one. Discussion over.
@What saith the scripture? the verb is answer or respond.
YOU are the wrong on, sir!
The root, converted to a noun is an answer or responder. Neither is a preposition
And neither is linguistically related to the prepositional phrase rendered. But now that I know you of the ungodly cult of KJVO, I have no further reason to engage.
@What saith the scripture? ALL LANGUAGES have their meanings derived from roots, suffixes and prefixes and while a word may, in any language have more than one meaning, context sorts that out.
ALL LANGUAGES. Saying, "Hebrew" does this makes it seem like you are saying it, alone, differs from all other languages, hight disingenuous.