For the Money, This is Hard to Beat! - Czech Military 3 Piece Sleep System
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- Luke is here today to review the Czech Military Three-Piece Sleep System; this is an OLD SCHOOL piece of military surplus and that will be obvious the moment that you see the overall design of it. Old school but still very functional and highly versatile. Also, it's inexpensive!
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This is Seriously Cool - Czech Military 3 Piece Sleep System
Agenda Free Link : eBay.com and military surplus sites
Price : This is going to vary greatly; you can find used military surplus for around $40, new is around $90. Those are common prices but you can find swings all over the net. I purchased mine 7 years ago for around $20.
Color : Olive Drab, blue linen and yellow blanket
Layers and Materials :
Nylon Bivy bag - this is a bivy style protection layer that is both wind and moisture resistant.
Linen Liner, this is known as the hygiene layer - it also makes the entire kit more comfortable as you don’t have to come directly into contact with the wool blanket which tends to feel scratchy against your skin.
Wool Blanket
Zipper on the left side
Weight : 7lbs
Measurements :
Nylon outer Bivy with side zipper, 80" x 28"
Linen Liner is 76" x 61"
Wool Liner is 76" x 61"
Features:
Czech military issue
Both liners button together
Temp Rating : Around 35F is my limit with this setup as is; the 3 piece kit, socks, pants, shirt and 40F is good for me. I run hot though so your mileage is going to vary. For colder natured folks, 45F is a reasonable rating.
With good thermal layers and/or insulated clothing, it could be used in much colder conditions.
Review Pros :
Great military surplus value.
Very cool piece of old school military surplus.
Excellent for warmer weather and early fall trips.
Very versatile kit - 40f is my rating for this kit as is but there is enough room to add additional layers; sleeping bag liner, sleeping bag or an additional blanket. A Woobie works great inside of this kit. It doesn’t take much and this is a 10F sleep system.
You can put a sleeping pad inside of the cover under the blanket and linen.
Bulky but for car camping and short distances, it makes sense.
Good compression straps.
Great for emergency use - throw one in the car for winter and you have a valuable piece of gear just in case of an emergency.
Deploys quickly
Good fit for the majority of users.
Easy to pack up
It saved us time and made inspection much easier, so we just unrolled them at night and slept in that.
Easy to store.
Decent amount of space for the shoulders and legs.
Works great on the ground with a sleeping pad or on a cot by itself. It’s thick enough to block a good amount of cold air from underneath.
Good weather resistance - wind and rain.
Not waterproof but can handle some moisture before wetting through.
Easy to take apart and wash what you need to.
Because of the overall design these make great sleeping bag rolls for not only adults but kids as well. It’s a super inexpensive way to gear up for a child or someone who doesn’t camp all that much. As a kid I would have been thrilled to have something like this!
One of these, a sleeping pad and they are set for most of the year.
Review Cons :
If purchasing used, be prepared to wash and possibly repair. Replacing buttons is common.
These are military surplus items and there is a possibility of the military surplus smell. It’s unique to surplus and luckily it does go away with enough use.
Mine was fairly strong when I got it in 7 years ago but it’s completely gone.
Fair amount of air can make its ways through the zipper
Taller and Larger individuals will have some problems here; Too tall and it won’t cover you properly, too wide and it won’t cover you properly.
My tallest buddy is 6’3” and 250lbs and he has no issues with his. I would say around 300lbs and this would be tight.
Heavy
Summary :
To sum up this review, this is a great product but like most things it may not be for everyone. If you don’t mind the size though it’s a versatile piece of kit that’s still fairly inexpensive to find…..but who knows how much longer that will be for.
I’m glad that I own it and I can easily recommend it; it gets my thumbs up for sure.
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Been using these for many years. Bought 4 of them back when they cost $12 each. Found that you can open two of them out and they zip into one double size 2 person bag ( almost a queen size). Great for over landing or truck camping the two of us.
Yeah I got a pair of these from Midway years ago and I think I paid literally like $13 for each. They're really comfortable, the feel of the "real" fabric is a lot more cozy than cold synthetics.
I bought one, and gave it to a homeless person. Never replaced it.
My parents bought sleeping bags from sears back in the 70s. Two bags would zip together an make 1 bigger bag almost a queen size as well
That was actually the one question I had...because it's great when you can mate two sleeping bags together. Now I just need to find two of these for a good price :)
@@DL-ij7tf What would the two of them weigh?
I was in force recon unit in Army of the Czech Republic more than 25 years ago... This horrible piece of crap taught me hard way to be proffesional in MacGyvering how to keep every bit of heat... Winters in CR are wet, mildly cold around -5 C (around 20 F) with extremes at - 15 to -20 C (up to -5 F). Being out of barracks in january for 14 days on survival tactics training (basicaly go to woods, be there 14 days, don't die and then come back) with this f..kng thing teached you to value every calory you can save....
Basically it needs one more wool blanket to keep you warm.
I was in Slovak army.We used same sleeping bags.On summer night outside was not enough to keep me warm...
I was living in Prague the past 7 years but have never seen these before. I would love to find two...the zip them together. I'd use a US Army Poncho liner inside for additional warmth.
After so many years of using mil surplus gear, I find that storage smell kind of comforting.
Will also add from my husband: had it for 2 years. Good for above freezing temps, layers stay put, layers easy to remove and wash, can be used as a blanket because it can be unzipped fully, very comfortable. (Also, he says I shouldn't harass southerners/non-Canadians about different terminology - hat, beanie, toque, toboggan, chook, stocking cap, skullcap, Bobble hat, watch cap...)
Phhhtttt! Don't make fun of my Bald Head Warmer😂
I bought a US military MMS sleep system about 5 years ago and it is my go to sleep system for 4 seasons. I do like to use a bag liner to protect it from dirt and don’t wear any dirty cloths when I slip into for the night. Good review.
I have a couple of these, had them for years now. My experience: for $20 they are cool, kind of like a primitive precursor to the US military sleep system. The main advantage is that the bottom is fully waterproof like a bivy bag (but the top isn't) and you can wash the components. The downsides are that (1) it is absolutely huge and heavy vs how warm it actually is, and (2) it isn't all that warm, period. There is just a single wool blanket inside of it after all.
Personally, I think if you pay $80 for one, you are crazy. For that, you can get a decent, modern 40 degree synthetic bag which will weigh 1/3 of this and fit in a bag 1/3 as big and provide better thermal performance. This is something to throw in the back of the truck for emergencies or whatever, and it really stops making any sense at all once it isn't crazy cheap.
Hi, I used this one on military basic training. Thank god we have a new sleeping bags from Carinthia :D
nooo taky jsem ho používal…. moc nadšenej jsem nebyl 😆
@@timjanda13 nejvíce z raket byli nadšení mazáci, co nás nutili vhorku spát zapnuté až ke krku :-D Naštěstí je to po jedné výměně názorů přešlo :-D PVC 04 Hranice :-D
I am soldier of the Army of the Czech Republic and this sleeping system is the worst sleeping system I have ever had.
What do you do with the side straps?! I don't understand 😭
It served me well on colleage party sleepovers :D
to je normalne trosku vylepsena raketa ne? jsme v tom spali jako zakladaci :D Fakt strasny v tom spat jinde nez v kasarnach.
I would also love to know what the straps are for, please, please tell us!🤷♂️😁
@@Mat-kr1nf Honestly? I don't know. I used them for better manipulation.
A foam sleep pad slipped between the blanket and the outer shell on the back side work's very well and still rolls up nicely.
I also endorse the Canadian artic bag. Three bags in one. No zippers that will freeze, only wooden toggles. It is so efficient, you sleep naked inside, your clothing trapped between the layers so that too doesn't freeze. THE best bag I have ever used at -20C.
Have similar Czech bag with a quilt lining that ties in, canvas on top and has rubberized bottom. Has a better hood arrangement. Love the bag, very roomy for a sleeper who moves around. Kept me warm enough at 45. Bought for $20 like eight years ago. What a bargain.
I’ve had one for about 5 years and use a cot to sleep on. I unzip it and use it like a blanket. Add wool blankets as needed when it gets cold. Love it.
Can you , or have you ever just used the blacket and the shell . Without out the wool ? Thanks ahead ... Gubs
I've had mine for years and love it. Easy to clean, add a blanket for extra warmth if needed etc.
I'm Czech, and i've spent quite a lot of time inside the predecessor of this sleeping bag used the Army of Socialist Czechoslovakia. It was as good as you said this one is :)
I tried going through the Alps with this one, and minus 10 Celsius wasn't fun :)
Hek! I think i still might have the officers' version (pre 1989) of this bag still somewhere! :) Oh, the memories...
REALLY nice to see , a real world Czech guy , who actually used this !!
I have used my British Army sleep system down to -13f in Norway and it was comfortable. Hey are plentiful and pretty cheap. Great quality and the Goretex outer is a very capable bivvi bag in foul weather.
Good bit of kit cost me £10 about 7 years ago! I use it as a hammock under blanket!
Our good old military basic sleeping bag. There was another version for Officers which has an inflatable sleeping pad inside. I am still using the blanket from it :). Greetings from Czech Republic!
I got two in a set for 60 dollars finding them after seeing your first review of one. One missing light liner I gave to younger great nephew who loves it. I've used mine a few times love it. But wish it was wider am side slipper, and have not found anything that really fits me well in single sizes. That side works, and I do love it, and made it work the best I could for how I sleep. Got something else rated for a lot lower temp, but I keep this one handy just in case my go to bag. Power out just yesterday for over 6.5 hours, was like camping in the house. Had it ready to go if had to sleep without power.
I have been waiting for a long time for the follow up to the sleep system. I have one and I use it all the time. one of my favorite pieces of gear. I very often get stuck at work and get short shifted so I don't have time to go home and come back. I will often use this to sleep between shifts at work.
I bought one from "Sportsman Guide"...... I loved it so much I bought a second one for my hot tent !!....they are great for using on cots durring the cold season and are made like a tank !!!..... I added a wool blanket to the inside and have a fleece liner also for both !!
How long did it take to get to you. I might get one
the last one took 4 days to get to me
@@woodknotts6050 awesome thanks
I got mine yesterday I'm liking it a tad small and a tad different. Good for the truck though. Thanms
I would love one of these sleep systems! Very cool. I’m going to see if I can find one locally.
I love the military surplus smell.
Like it as a cowboy bedroll ..with a extra blanket in it😁
A great-looking item/system for ranchers, "cowboys" etc. who need durability and simplicity in their gear. As stated, great for keeping in pickup/work truck, ATV, as part of a trail horse saddlebag system etc.
I am using one for years now. I keep it in my car, but i must say, i use it only indoor.
I added to it a thin foam pad, it helps with comfort and isolation.
I had to sew my own linen sheet as the one i got was the wrong size.
I love the feel of linen, and it is so practical to wash.
“There may be cigarette burns… these do come from Europe after all”
Lmao 🤣
GREAT REVIEW! I love that it has a wool liner but, I'm not crazy about the buttons, I would rather have snaps. Thank you for the time and research you put into your videos!🥰
When I first found this sleep system I thought it was the coolest thing, and bought it right away.
My only gripes; I don't understand the straps on it, and there's no way to make it smaller.
You should try the Canadian sleep system. It has an inner, outer, liner, and hood. Good to around -40C when fully combined.
-40 C? Are you sure it's not -40 F?
@@1BeGe I was with the Canadian military and have used it at over -30C.
@@myfamily8194 The joke is that -40 is where C and F meet and are the same number. So at -40 it's both, lol.
I need a -40 when it's around freezing
Great item but nowhere to be found. Thank you for all your hard work by providing priceless valuable reviews.
Sounds great !! I will need to get two of them when I can. Thank you for all you do !!
Friend bought one of these years back.. I used it twice. Did not keep me warm at all..
I Bought the US 4 piece, and while yes it costs more (was about 100 when i bought it years ago) it is far superior. Completely waterproof, rated to -40f. Packs smaller, is lighter.
Buy the Czech if you are on a budget and only summer camping, buy the US version if you need more heavy duty gear.
Luke I got one about 7 years too. I like it my son was 16 he liked it so much I never got it back.. lol
Really dig that helikon anorak brother! I have a pretty solid backpacking Loudoun but I find myself hunting from a base camp often. Basecamp usually is vehicle/overland based so with weight not being an isure I'm looking at camp comfort options and this looks great!
I love mine. It's ridiculously comfortable. And I do take it backpacking; I use some straps to hook it to the underside of my ALICE pack. I was camping last winter in the high desert, and the temperatures got down to the upper 30's. With a surplus canvas pup tent (with an air gap at the bottom), this bed roll, a foam pad, and a single wool blanket, I was quite comfortable. But then, I run hot, so what was comfortable for me might be too cold for someone else.
You would need to add a motel room to it to make it warm enough to sleep on the ground though! 😂
I have one of those from 7 years ago and agree with your positive assessment. Protect it from rain though.
Great stuff! It’s cool you can always add layers in there if you need more warmth. I love these military surplus reviews!!!
I've had one of these for 10 or so years , it's part of my bug out kit - amazing bit of kit for the money
Got one of these earlier this summer. Used it on a 55 degree night and got a bit cold. Didn’t have good insulation under me, but I found the bag a big constricting and cold. Everyone is different, but if you’re going to use one, have a spare blanket or backup bag until you learn how it works for you.
We used this in CZ Army in the 90s for sure. In barracks as a sleeping blanket most of the time. I have never seen one issued with the wool part blanket though. But we never slept outside or in the real cold anyway.
I bought one and found out too late that it's too small for me. Took it on a campout and FROZE all night, because being 6'1" and over 250 lbs, I couldn't fit in the bag! I had a long sleepless night sitting in front of a fire. Today the bag is used as a comforter, unzipped, on top of a twin size bed.
It's an interesting piece of gear...like a highly modified wool blanket. Very cool if not especially practical.
I've had two of these just a bit longer adding a skinny fleece bag inside and ant tarp and you're good for anything. The bottom side of the nylon outer appears to be waterproof and thicker.
I added a thin wool blanket to mine. I cut button holes and fit it right in. Did not seem to ad to weight or bulk.
I think of the WW2 Army Air Force A-4 Sleeping bag. It down filled and it has a down quilt you can add and it has a linen sheet that ties in and it's huge. I'm 48" chest no the A-4 bag zips up. It has four zippers that you can open anyway you want.
Bought a couple of these about 8 years ago. Never used them but thought they were really cool. Great break down.
I'm a day late because I was not notified about your video brother and hi from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures and your family
Wow! Very nice! I love the color of that inner layer too, thanks for the info, might just look for one of these!
I luv military surplus so I know that smell awesome peice of gear Luke....
It is a sleeping bag vz.67 (vz. is mark or model ) for basic service soldiers - compulsory military service. The number 67 indicates the year of introduction into use in the army. 1967. This sleeping bag was used for soldiers until 2004. Professional soldiers (officers, sergeants, warrant officers) had another sleeping bag of classic design with a green removable hygiene layer. The sleeping bag for professional soldiers had an air mattress as an accessory.
Since 2005, the Czech Army has had professional soldiers, all of them have sleeping bags from Carinthia, one for light summer and one for winter, the winter variant has a temperature limit of -20 degrees Celsius.
This looks like just what I have been looking for, and for once still a couple to be had off of ebay after a TheOutdoorReview channel review!
Reminds of the swag bag when i was in Australia. They are a lot thicker but the same principle, roll it up and go, roll it out and sleep in it. Alas its something you carry with a vehicle.
I have one if these. I'm 6' and 220lbs. Never been able to do it up a the way. Not sure what petite army these were made for.
Glad you did a review on it though. Keep up the good work.
Just been looking for one of these, great timing of your review, thanks!
I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
I just found a USN Mod 1935 officers bed roll in very good condition in an old dugout behind my place. VERY cool find.
Awesome kit, well done
I thought I’d see this before you used this on an overland adventure in the green machine military truck!
I have one of those , buy a compression stuff sack , and its much more manageable .
Doesnt look good at all for backpacking . To heavy to bulky
Thank you Luke😺
Good stuff man, good equipment and you're really good at your reviews keep it up.
i do use much older version this one is based on for 17+ years and also officer version (its very different) but i tend to not use that hygiene (they can be green or green-blue) layer but only the blanket... i get it for like $4 and officer model for $7 but that was when i was basically a kid edit: officer model have a compartment inside for inflatable pad that is a part of the kit
I have one of these. I like to keep it in the truck in case it is needed for any improptu overnight stays in it. It isnt very warm though.
This would be good to have in the car for emergency use - the wool blanket would double as a fire blanket. Wool blankets aren't cheap, either.
Got something similar. Made for the swedish army. But the outer layer is canvas. Heavy!!! But I like it
sleep better in sleep-socks and underwear with balaclava and sometimes cotton gloves and toboggan. you could make these with exterior waterproof outers.
I just ordered one, just for fun 🙂
Those are really cool. I remember your video from a few years ago. I should have bought one then. Great video!
Im gonna safe this vid and look around to buy one .
I got one in a swap, without the linen layer. Luckily I found a German site selling the blanket and linen layers for peanuts, brand new, unused. I got a new blanket and two linen layers.
THANKS FOR THE TIP: use two linen layers to add a bit of warmth or to have a change of sheeting on longer trips!
Great video Luke. Strength and honor!
I’ve got one. Love it.
This has always been my hang up when going camping, I'm 7 feet tall roughly 240 lbs.. not a lot of gear made for tall people , including sleep systems and hammocks.. anything I get like this I have to expand or modify to fit me.
Life must be difficult in some situations for you. Most people don't think about stuff like that I suppose.
Bought one years ago after watching your review, still going strong!
Might have to grab one or 2 of these.....
Bought mine after I seen your first video. Use it every year for hunting season. Sadly I broke the zipper. Won’t stay zipped up anymore.
Well from experience in 2 branches of service the sleeping bag is always one of the hardest to clean and dry for returning them into CIF. I liked the USMC sleep system way better than the older mummy bags used in the Army
Great review on a rocky road Luke.
5-6 years back these were all over Ebay UK selling for silly money like £10 each then they put the magic word bushcraft in the listing prices crept up stock slowly ran out, now they're like hens teeth, the same thing happened with Dutch surplus Goretex hooped bivi bags stock everywhere £30 each now even used ones are around £90 + new average £130 when available mind you they are a direct copy of the Corinthian bivi
My go-to sleep system is almost the same weight, but works better for me. I do like the wool liner though, so I may just pick one up.
wow ! so good !
Thats bigger than my back pack 🤣🤣🤣🤣
We go hiking in the lake district UK the Rab assent 900 down bag is all you'll need in the cold weather
Packs down small and super light 👍
I want one looks comfy
G'day Luke, really like the design concept for car camping, particularly on a cot. As I travel hot too, any bag that folds out into a blanket has a head start IMO. How good would it be to be waterproof as well.
Seriously considering one in the new year, many thanks for showing it mate. Cheers Duke.
And will keep your CZ handgun warm too. The Czech make good stuff.
I like it. Thanks Luke.
Greetings from Czechia :)
Looks like a great option for a cowboy bedroll when camping on horseback.
Looks intresting, i guess if you are handy you can change the inside for something like wool or fleece for winteruse.
its like a bed role
It’s a swag!
Nice.
Ha! Ha! These are great for £9 as I paid for mine years ago...great for incidental bedding or car camping in the summer....mind you, you can button in extra blankets......if you can find them now?
To cut down on to have to clean the sleeping system, I alway either strip down or wear clean clothes to bed. It keeps everything much cleaner that way. The guys and gals in my USAR Unit would give me hell about sleeping almost buck naked but I slept great.
looks good! that jacket is solid too
Solid dude! 100% REAL. 🇺🇸
,,,,,,,hi,,,,,,i have one of these,,,,but got rid of the green sheet,,,,,,the base of it is water proof,,,,,and i got a fleece sleeping bag liner which i had a 3/4 zip put down the centre and put a roll mat under the wool blanket ,,,,,,,and when its all rolled up you can slide a tarp in the hud along with a few boil in the bag meals and a hexi burner then just hang it on a shoulder strap ,,and hang your mest tin and cup off the strap aswell,,,,,, all ready for a night in the woods,,with a compleat sleep system and food just carry your water in your hand,,,,,,,,,done ,,,,,,,,love the vids,,,,
i bought a couple of these and i use them for drunk friends after a night out.
Mine came with that surplus smell. Washed it in a WM and blanket disintegrated. Other two pieces were fine the shell and blue liner.
Sorry to hear that. Don't wash wool with any thing else that will BEAT it to death, in cold water, gentle cycle, w/Woolite. Definitely NOT hot dryer, cause it will SHRINK. If you find another wool blanket the same size, sew in some button holes. ☺
Remind me of the 1940s British Army sleeping bags the the normal soldiers one reminder canvas but no blanket and the officers ones had blankets in them. The canvas could be waterproofed like a tent