Lucimyr King Jaeherys I the grandson of the Conquer said it was a open secret. Also the A World of Ice and Fired mentions it again. I think it's pretty much confirmed and it matches the relationship between House Plantangent and House York and House Lancaster.
Cersei and Robert had one son,Steffon, but he died from a fever. Cersei tells cat this when they are looking after bran while he was in his coma from his push
The theory is that she had him swapped with a different baby. Or something. It's a good theory just look it up. I believe it's true cause then he would have Targaryen blood and he would be the 3rd head of the dragon. Instead of Tyrion being a Targaryen. Which is also a good theory you should check out
Didn't Robert still kill the boar? If he did, that would make his death a whole lot more badass. I just seem to remember him saying something like he managed to stab it through the eye or something.
Yup, I think he did, and if I'm not mistaken he also tells Ned that they have to cook it and eat it at his funeral (can't remember if in the show or in the books though)
@@geoDB. A royal decree can do it in my place, no need of certified parentage or something else. Remember, a King does what he likes(and in this case, Denerys did it for Gendry in the show, she legitimized the dude. It can work in the books too).
please continue making new family tree videos... as a show watcher slowly making her way through the book series, this is really helping me understand the story even more :)
Rodrigo Miranda So basically you just proves my point some you TH-camrs if anyone says anything that's not agreeing your stuff y'all go and gets major attitude like little confused children Lol besides why so uptight I mean Jon Snow is basically a taragayen
I suspect Gendry will have an important role during the final two seasons of Game of Thrones. He is a blacksmith after all, with possibly enough know-how to forge dragonglass into weaponry to defeat the White Walkers. Additionally he's the only person in Westeros with Baratheon blood in his veins, despite never having been acknowledged by his father. He just has to finally get off that damned boat!
Lol all the show only watchers thinking Ceseri has 4 kids and only mentioning Gendry. In canon the only real hope for House Baratheon if Shireen dies is the only acknowledged natural child of Robert, Edric Storm.
Thank you for all your help. Game of Thrones is new to me and you are awesome help and my favorite. thus far of all the ppl. that are trying to explain all this. Your the best and thank you....
Well, Robert did say "I have a son, you have a daughter, we'll join our houses"...in the show at least Though many think the parallel works better with Arya and Gendry, but who knows :"
Fun Fact: House Baratheon and House Arryn are related there common ancestor is Aemma Arryn she married a Targaryen,Viserys the First.Which makes Robert Baratheon and Robin Arryn half sixth cousins (if that’s a thing).Which I guess this also means Dany is related to Robin Arryn although very distant
no there not really related but house targaryen has a couple of bloods outside there family first the velaryons of they count there also from old valeria and have valerian blood then the arryns one of jaehaerys younger daughters daella I think married a arryn lord who already had children with a previous marriage they would have one child aemma daella would die a few days later aemma would later be the mother of rhanyra targaryen and aemma died in child birth in 105 ac with only having rhaenyra as an heir rhaenyra was a female king viserys instead named him daughter heir a year later viserys marries another woman alicent Hightower and they have children together including 3 boys and 1 girl alicent desired for her son to be named the heir which caused war called the dance of the dragons eventually they were all dead appart from a son not to bring a spoiler or something viserys the youngest son of rhaenyra and her uncle daemon married larra rogara a wealthy banking family in essos so there line also continues so Targaryens and baratheons have velaryon blood also to be seen because jaehaerys his mother marries a Baratheon lord his mother was a velaryon so baratheons have velaryon blood as well anyways daeron the good king marries Mariah martell of dorne so targaryens and baratheons have dornish martell blood maekar the next king whos line continued married dyanna dayne of house dayne is a house in dorne so the dayne also have blood in targaryens after that aegon the 5th marries betha blackwood so they also have blackwood blood the baratheons already had targaryen and velaryon blood after rhaelle one of the daughters of aegon the 5th marries into house Baratheon all these line countines basically there family of each other
The current Arryn line doesn't descend from Aemma Arryn. It's more likely Rodrik Arryn. And house Arryn doesn't always have the next ruler be the child of the previous, in Fire and Blood, sometimes it went to another sibling or to a cousin.
being Aegon's bastard half-brother was a rumour not fact, however I do believe that he was but he probably got the name from his mother and was a highborn-bastard. Baratheon sounds too good to just make up.
It's possible that Orys' mother was a highborn lady of Valyrian descent, but not as pureblooded and high standing as Targeryens. Possibly like with Celtigars and Velaryons, her parents weren't siblings and she had black hair with blue eyes. It is highly possible to inherit such physical qualities for a Targeryen (look at prince Duncan, son of Aegon V, Baelor Breakspear). So, Orys must've gotten his features from his mom, but also from Aegon's dad and may've resembled him greatly, since Aegon was also known for his strong build, broad shoulders and powerful looks.
ours is the fury .. my favorite house . and yes they are not a targaryen branch .. the blood of the storm kings of house durrandon runs thick in the baratheon's more than the targaryens no matter how many marriages between the two houses
Considering only kings can legitimize bastards I'm sure Jon will do it. Also it makes sense that Grendy should keep the Baratheon line from going extinct considering it was founded by a bastard.
In the show, the last time we saw Gendry, the bastard son of Robert Baratheon was last seen heading away from Dragonstone to hide in the Kingslanding slum of Fleebottom. I think that if he is brought before Daenerys Targaryen, she may legitimatize him as lord of Storm's End if she gets him to "bend the knee." She may be willing to claim the last remaining offspring, legitimate or not, of the man who killed her brother, Rhaegar, as an ally. She never met either Rhaegar or Robert, but it seems that Gendry has inherited his father's near legendary strength and is a skilled blacksmith, and assuming he's still alive, one of the last traces of the Baratheon line left in Westeros. Also, if the ages of the cast are any indication, Gendry would likely be one of Robert's oldest bastards, since Joe Dempsie, the actor that played Gendry, is just one year younger than Richard Madden, who played Robb Stark.
Great video. But there is a slight mistake: Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen all three of them are officially Baratheons. Although we know the truth that they are children born of incest between Cersei and Jaime, that doesn't make them Lannisters. Even if they were exposed as bastards, they would be "Waters" or "Hill", not "Lannister". :) Do House Martell next, please! Or House Tyrell. :)
yh and even to have those surnames they'd to be officially recognised so it would just be 'Joffrey' just like Gendry is just 'Gendry' no bastard surname
I feel like some important Baratheons were left out like Rogar, ultimate badass, & Hand to King Jaeharys the Conciliator; along with his kids Boremund & Jocelyn. He married the King's mother Alyssa Velaryon and had 2 kids; Jocelyn would grow to marry Jaeharys' heir & Prince of Dragonstone, Aemon Targaryen. Aemon & Jocelyn had a daughter, Rhaenys Targaryen, which is the 1st time, for sure, that Targaryen blood legitimately entered the Baratheon Family. This relation is also what Robert Baratheon hung his eligibility to be King on. Normally some rebel wouldn't be made King but since he could prove his lineage with Targaryen blood he was eligible to become King; otherwise, most likely another Great Council would've been called to determine who was next in line to sit the Iron Throne.
vob great Robert was older but when he died it would go to the next in line. Stannis claimed Roberts kids were actually Jamies so the throne should pass to him
The family trees are great, but I feel like the shorter versions are taking away from the whole point of the family tree. Even if you don't discuss, or know the backgrounds of all of the members of the tree, at least put their names there.
So the Baratheons are blood bound to the Targaryens. And Eddard didn't have to say anything about kinslaying when they rebelled? Not so honorable now eh.
That's not how it works. Other houses marry each other all the time and they're not considered kin. Baratheons aren't the only ones with Targaryen blood either, Martells, Penrose, Plumm, Longwater have Targaryen blood in them. There may be others. Baratheon is a different house so they're not kin. Kinslaying is something done within the same noble house. If a Stark killed a Stark then it would be kinslaying, if a Stark killed a Karstark, it is not kinslaying.
He was in the show, but it's unlikely in the books. Robert has 3 living bastards in the books: Mya Stone, Edric Storm, and Gendry. Edric is acknowledged and a son, Mya is acknowledged, but a daughter, while Gendry remained unacknowledged. If any of Robert's bastards were likely to be legitimized in the book continuity, it'd be Edric
I love how amazed you are on the simple fact that you were doubting you being able to have enough subject matter on your topic to be able to make a video on the House Barathian's familly tree & further you again mentioned it with shock.But why im amazed is you say & do all this while at the same time you start the video by anouncing that your not going to cover the first 300 years of the Barathian Familly tree which is allot of info tones of info most of it & it being very interesting & crucial to the timeline of how & when the Barathians House became a powerfull house with so much influence & the lands which they had acquired & were given Lordship over them & also the history of the great or big battles fought for them & to find out & know things like how Stormsend got the name Stormsend.Lets Face it Ther was choke information on the subject & i find it really nuts & odd & frustrating that you would short change such a interesting storyline & screw viewers out of the opertunity to gain some super cool knolledge & miss out on the opertunity to see & do awesome & neat stuff like going places we all knew to still be a Secret.
+whycreate wait apparently Orys Baratheon had two sons, one we don't know the name two and the other was named Davos, and the one we don't know the name to had two sons, Robar and Raymont, Robar having a son, Boremund, and a daughter, Jocelyn, who married an Aemon Targaryen, and Boremund had two sons, Borros, and another son (we don't know his name) but Borros died without male issue during the dance with dragons, having 4 daughters, and his younger brother had a son, and from that Son all the modern Baratheons come from
+whycreate also Lyonel was the son of a reigning lord of House Baratheon, and this reigning lord had two younger brothers, the youngest of which called Gowen who married Tya lannister. Also Lyonels other son was Harbert not Harbart
+whycreate the Baratheons always had Valryian blood, the earliest known Record of that was when Robar married Alyssa Velaryon, and you know Ormund and Rhaelle
Though it isn't shown in tv but Stannis did care about Renly. Until clash of kings. I still think It's Renly’s own fault. Since Stannis didn't have sons, his true and legal heir was Renly. Which the latter failed to understand and waged war against his brother. Stannis also gave Edric Storm to Renly yo raise
WargAttack Through the female line yes. In fact they are great great etc children of Aegon the Conquer as much as Danerys and her brothers. Also Targaryens and Baratheons mixed together several other times as well so it's not just Orys and Rhaelle 200+ years later.
9xprincess i truly belive that to be a «real» targaryan and have the blood of old valyria and the dragon, you’re entire family must be of incest. It it the only way to not water out the dragons blood and magic, and to keep the beautiful traites like the bleached blond hair and purple eyes alive. Targaryans seem to be imune to the often horrible side of incest like stillborns and deformed kids, with each generation only getting more beautiful and having even more bleached hair
@@wargattack8837No...the Targaryens themselves are not entirely out of incest and their main line has blood from all over the 7 Kingdoms. If Orys was the halfbrother to Aegon, then the Baratheon line is a junior Tagrgaryen line. Either way Stannis, Robert and Renly's grandmother was Princess Rhaelle Targaryen (whose mother was from the Riverlands), making them and their father first and second cousins to Dany, her brothers and father. Not to mention the Targaryen blood in Baratheons from previous generations. Really the only thing that makes Robert and his brothers not identify with Targaryens is the primogeniture system. Dany is more "pure" but not by that much. Yes looks wise the Targaryens don't suffer the side effects of incest but neither do the Lannister twins. In ASOIAF it seems to manifest more in being mentality unstable. In the case of the Targaryens it seems to be a trait that gets enhanced by in breeding.
9xprinces i think you misunderstood me, the targaryas did marry off their kind to other houses and families yes, but they always made sure to get an extra boy and a girl who they could marry to eachother, to keep the dragons blood magic alive and not watered out
9xprincess the mad king got 3 kids, he married rheagar off to another house and then got dany and viserys so that tvey could marry and keep the blood pure
He is, just a combination of two characters. Another one of Robert's Bastards named Edric Storm, has has the story where Melisandre toys with him and has Davos save him.
Orys Baratheon to do list:
end a family tree. check
start a family tree. check
conquer dorne for Aegon. wip
So The Baratheons are literally another Targaryen branch family.
Lucimyr King Jaeherys I the grandson of the Conquer said it was a open secret. Also the A World of Ice and Fired mentions it again. I think it's pretty much confirmed and it matches the relationship between House Plantangent and House York and House Lancaster.
Yes they are, their bloodline is too diluted to ride dragons but yeah they’re a legit branch.
LegendInThaMakin and gendry had solidified the union with Arya stark by love making in s8x02.
Yeah,like the Blackfyres,excet the baretheon actually succeeded in taking the throne
@Lucimyr Screw that, a Robert's ancestors and Baratheons MIXED with Targaryens a lot. Robert has First Men blood as well.
Gendry is still alive in show. Nice video.
+Pihlaja Pihlava according to the actor's tweet on this ," Still rowing"
Gendry is chilling at an inn in the books, his younger bastard brother Edric Storm is the poor bastard who got exiled..
HES BAAAAACK
He ain't no Baratheon He's a Bastard
HES GONNA GET LEGITIMISATION OFFER FROM A RULER
who will it be...
Edric Storm and Gendry don't get a shout out? Jon does, come on. Bastards matter! Lol
Jon isn’t a bastard tho lmao
Jon isn’t even a bastard.
He's still a bastard in the books :P
Let's not forget Mya too.
If Jon is a bastard he is a great bastard .
Cersei and Robert had one son,Steffon, but he died from a fever. Cersei tells cat this when they are looking after bran while he was in his coma from his push
WiltedForestBOOKS I don't think they named him at all.
A•H•U•M•A•N• READING Not in the books. There Cercei got rid of it before it was born.
I bet Gendry is Robert and Cersei's son.
Cause Gendry said that his mother has blonde hair and Cersei tells cat about having a black haired son that was just like Robert takin from her.
The theory is that she had him swapped with a different baby. Or something. It's a good theory just look it up. I believe it's true cause then he would have Targaryen blood and he would be the 3rd head of the dragon. Instead of Tyrion being a Targaryen. Which is also a good theory you should check out
Didn't Robert still kill the boar? If he did, that would make his death a whole lot more badass. I just seem to remember him saying something like he managed to stab it through the eye or something.
Also, Renly is a filthy traitor. Fuck 'im.
Yup, I think he did, and if I'm not mistaken he also tells Ned that they have to cook it and eat it at his funeral (can't remember if in the show or in the books though)
@@horilaw424 It was in the show.
@@rosalinacv1996and books
I like how the audio became slightly louder when you said 16. (Roberts bastards)
Not all of Robert's are dead. There's still Gendry, Mya and Edric, plus a couple more - I think/hope. Not all of them are in King's Landing.
Apart from the the three main ones, Bella was the only one mentioned not killed, but it's unlikely that's still the case.
They're basards tho
@@geoDB. They can be legitimized at some point. I mean, if all the true born Baratheons gone or something like that..
Good luck getting certified parentage to legitimise them.
@@geoDB. A royal decree can do it in my place, no need of certified parentage or something else. Remember, a King does what he likes(and in this case, Denerys did it for Gendry in the show, she legitimized the dude. It can work in the books too).
please continue making new family tree videos... as a show watcher slowly making her way through the book series, this is really helping me understand the story even more :)
Appreciate your kind words :)
As much as I want to make one of these for House Martell or Tyrell, that new Victarion chapter makes me want to make a family tree for Greyjoy
Oh sure. Greyjoys would be great too ^_^
Why are you so unbelievably cheap with telling about the family tree
and why so short with telling about the houses and could add Jon Snow to the Targaryen Stark family tree or are you afraid to
@carlos santinos why don't you make your own video? are you afraid to?
Rodrigo Miranda So basically you just proves my point some you TH-camrs if anyone says anything that's not agreeing your stuff y'all go and gets major attitude like little confused children Lol besides why so uptight I mean Jon Snow is basically a taragayen
*Of course* you should do more family tree videos, trust yourself, man!
why_not_create
Hahaha favourite comment!
I suspect Gendry will have an important role during the final two seasons of Game of Thrones. He is a blacksmith after all, with possibly enough know-how to forge dragonglass into weaponry to defeat the White Walkers. Additionally he's the only person in Westeros with Baratheon blood in his veins, despite never having been acknowledged by his father. He just has to finally get off that damned boat!
Baratheon + Targaryen blood maybe he gets a dragon
hes by far not the only person with baratheon blood, and for what reason would that even be helpfull?
He will end up being on the Iron throne
Gameflyer001 oh the sorrow.
Gameflyer001 this comment did not age well
Lol all the show only watchers thinking Ceseri has 4 kids and only mentioning Gendry.
In canon the only real hope for House Baratheon if Shireen dies is the only acknowledged natural child of Robert, Edric Storm.
What about Edric Storm and Gendry? They're still alive.
Jebodeiasque
gendry's still rowing
Jebodeiasque no longer rowing
so is Mya Stone in the Vale and Roberts bastard daughter from the inn was alive in ASOS but I don't know if she still is in the books
keep it up! I enjoy these vids
Thank you!
Finally some made this video great video man keep it up.
Thank you for all your help. Game of Thrones is new to me and you are awesome help and my favorite. thus far of all the ppl. that are trying to explain all this. Your the best and thank you....
Way too kind! Thanks:)
Yes please do more of these! They will help me get by while new GOT material comes out!!
The Fury is Coming! - house political marriage between Arya Stark and Edric Baratheon.
Well, Robert did say "I have a son, you have a daughter, we'll join our houses"...in the show at least
Though many think the parallel works better with Arya and Gendry, but who knows :"
I don't think so.
Fun Fact: House Baratheon and House Arryn are related there common ancestor is Aemma Arryn she married a Targaryen,Viserys the First.Which makes Robert Baratheon and Robin Arryn half sixth cousins (if that’s a thing).Which I guess this also means Dany is related to Robin Arryn although very distant
They are too distant to be relate.
no there not really related but house targaryen has a couple of bloods outside there family
first the velaryons of they count there also from old valeria and have valerian blood then the arryns one of jaehaerys younger daughters daella I think married a arryn lord who already had children with a previous marriage they would have one child aemma daella would die a few days later aemma would later be the mother of rhanyra targaryen and aemma died in child birth in 105 ac with only having rhaenyra as an heir rhaenyra was a female king viserys instead named him daughter heir a year later viserys marries another woman alicent Hightower and they have children together including 3 boys and 1 girl alicent desired for her son to be named the heir which caused war called the dance of the dragons eventually they were all dead appart from a son not to bring a spoiler or something viserys the youngest son of rhaenyra and her uncle daemon married larra rogara a wealthy banking family in essos so there line also continues so Targaryens and baratheons have velaryon blood also to be seen because jaehaerys his mother marries a Baratheon lord his mother was a velaryon so baratheons have velaryon blood as well anyways daeron the good king marries Mariah martell of dorne so targaryens and baratheons have dornish martell blood maekar the next king whos line continued married dyanna dayne of house dayne is a house in dorne so the dayne also have blood in targaryens after that aegon the 5th marries betha blackwood so they also have blackwood blood the baratheons already had targaryen and velaryon blood after rhaelle one of the daughters of aegon the 5th marries into house Baratheon all these line countines basically there family of each other
Jon Arryn descends from Rodrik Arryn by way of his unnamed first wife, not his second wife, who was the Targaryen princess (and Aemma's mother)
The current Arryn line doesn't descend from Aemma Arryn. It's more likely Rodrik Arryn. And house Arryn doesn't always have the next ruler be the child of the previous, in Fire and Blood, sometimes it went to another sibling or to a cousin.
@@BroadwayRonMexico daella
That s not depressing. They ALMOST MADE IT HOME. REALLY GEORGE?
Definetly go on with other family trees! I love these videos!
Where did Orys get his last name from? His mother or just made it up?
being Aegon's bastard half-brother was a rumour not fact, however I do believe that he was but he probably got the name from his mother and was a highborn-bastard. Baratheon sounds too good to just make up.
It's possible that Orys' mother was a highborn lady of Valyrian descent, but not as pureblooded and high standing as Targeryens. Possibly like with Celtigars and Velaryons, her parents weren't siblings and she had black hair with blue eyes. It is highly possible to inherit such physical qualities for a Targeryen (look at prince Duncan, son of Aegon V, Baelor Breakspear). So, Orys must've gotten his features from his mom, but also from Aegon's dad and may've resembled him greatly, since Aegon was also known for his strong build, broad shoulders and powerful looks.
Maybe baratheon is bastard in high valayrian culture like snow in north
Rhaenys targaryen has a baratheon parent, how have you missed this off the family tree
these videos are incredible, excellent work please make more!
Thank you! There's always videos in the works
I love these family tree vids keep it up
Enjoy your videos so much!
Thanks!
3:58 He had SIXTEEN bastards?!!?!?!?
They rounded it up to twenty bastards in the show for some reason ^^ I guess sixteen wasn't enough
ours is the fury .. my favorite house . and yes they are not a targaryen branch .. the blood of the storm kings of house durrandon runs thick in the baratheon's more than the targaryens no matter how many marriages between the two houses
I loove these family tree videos!!
There's also a large portion of history from Orys to his Great Grandson and Great Grear Granddaughters I should tell you that btw.
Great video 👍🏻
Thanks!
I think Gendry ‘Baratheon’ will legitimize himself and become the last living Baratheon that has children eventually.
Considering only kings can legitimize bastards I'm sure Jon will do it. Also it makes sense that Grendy should keep the Baratheon line from going extinct considering it was founded by a bastard.
saljpal3 mhm
I fking love yours family tree pla keep making them
No stopping
Please make videos on any known noble houses from Essos, and on other ancient Westeros houses like Belaerys
i just noticed the dark souls gwyn theme... or is it soul of cinder? they are both similar
Ours is the fury💛💛💛💛💛💛
Gendry will get legitimize and continue the Baratheon name
That 'sixteen' killed my ears
Ours is the Fury!!!!!
Great video. I hate to be that guy, but ormund is acctually never specified as being lyonel's son, just his heir
Do more we love it
I know this video is old (and awesome video, by the way) but Lyonel was never said to be Ormund’s father, just that Ormund was Lyonel’s heir
Gendry and Jon are related,they both have targaryen blood.
And blackwood blood too
Since the starks , the targaryen and baratheons are all distant relatives to house blackwood from the riverlands
In the series at least Joffrey ordered the murders of the bastards not Cercei.
Damn my man Herbert getting no mention
Ours is the fury
baratheons are the blackfyre who won the rebellion
please make more family tree vids...
i mean gendry is alive so a similar outcome of him being elevated to baratheon noble might be possible
i’m kinda sad you didn’t mention the baratheon’s in Fire & Blood bc they were MUCH more interesting
My favorite house and words
In the show, the last time we saw Gendry, the bastard son of Robert Baratheon was last seen heading away from Dragonstone to hide in the Kingslanding slum of Fleebottom. I think that if he is brought before Daenerys Targaryen, she may legitimatize him as lord of Storm's End if she gets him to "bend the knee." She may be willing to claim the last remaining offspring, legitimate or not, of the man who killed her brother, Rhaegar, as an ally. She never met either Rhaegar or Robert, but it seems that Gendry has inherited his father's near legendary strength and is a skilled blacksmith, and assuming he's still alive, one of the last traces of the Baratheon line left in Westeros. Also, if the ages of the cast are any indication, Gendry would likely be one of Robert's oldest bastards, since Joe Dempsie, the actor that played Gendry, is just one year younger than Richard Madden, who played Robb Stark.
If you had warries about that you could, just add Robert's childen, we all know that he didn't have them in short supply!
Great video. But there is a slight mistake: Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen all three of them are officially Baratheons. Although we know the truth that they are children born of incest between Cersei and Jaime, that doesn't make them Lannisters. Even if they were exposed as bastards, they would be "Waters" or "Hill", not "Lannister". :)
Do House Martell next, please! Or House Tyrell. :)
yh and even to have those surnames they'd to be officially recognised so it would just be 'Joffrey' just like Gendry is just 'Gendry' no bastard surname
I haven't read the books yet but the way it looks in the show is that Joffrey ordered the killings of Rob's bastards, not Cersei
do a bolton family tree plz!
In anycase I hope Stannisand Gendry isn't killed off in the books
nice video
Do the Tullys next!
I feel like some important Baratheons were left out like Rogar, ultimate badass, & Hand to King Jaeharys the Conciliator; along with his kids Boremund & Jocelyn.
He married the King's mother Alyssa Velaryon and had 2 kids; Jocelyn would grow to marry Jaeharys' heir & Prince of Dragonstone, Aemon Targaryen.
Aemon & Jocelyn had a daughter, Rhaenys Targaryen, which is the 1st time, for sure, that Targaryen blood legitimately entered the Baratheon Family.
This relation is also what Robert Baratheon hung his eligibility to be King on. Normally some rebel wouldn't be made King but since he could prove his lineage with Targaryen blood he was eligible to become King; otherwise, most likely another Great Council would've been called to determine who was next in line to sit the Iron Throne.
The founder of the family is the brother of Aegon the Conqueror
Nice choice of music I love dark souls
Wasn't it Jofrey who had Robert's bastards killed
Targeryan
Black fire
Baratheon
Are all the same.
Valeryion?
I named my Nidoking Baratheon
You ain’t put gendry up there
I thought Stannis was the older brother? And that is why he feels he should be king since he was the oldest and the crown should have gone to him.
vob great Robert was older but when he died it would go to the next in line. Stannis claimed Roberts kids were actually Jamies so the throne should pass to him
here is another video that i wont understand shit from, but like regardless 😂😂😂
The family trees are great, but I feel like the shorter versions are taking away from the whole point of the family tree. Even if you don't discuss, or know the backgrounds of all of the members of the tree, at least put their names there.
Can you please do the Martels?
Gendry is the last hope
So if Ormund Baratheons sister has living decendens, would they be Shireens/Mycellas heirs?
Can you do a family tree for House of Dorn.
DAGMAR WILLISMS Matell, not Dorne. Dorne is the region where they live. That is like calling the Starks House North.
I meant star falls where
Do one for Tully family. !
the only bastard that i know that is possibly still alive is the black smith boy (can't remember his name)
Celtic Angel gendry
thank you, yes Gendry he could still meet up with dany and help her or some thing
Celtic Angel And Edric Storm.(deleted from the Show)
You forgot gendry
So the Baratheons are blood bound to the Targaryens. And Eddard didn't have to say anything about kinslaying when they rebelled? Not so honorable now eh.
Well I guess it didn't really count since they were second cousins with different last names.
That's not how it works. Other houses marry each other all the time and they're not considered kin.
Baratheons aren't the only ones with Targaryen blood either, Martells, Penrose, Plumm, Longwater have Targaryen blood in them. There may be others.
Baratheon is a different house so they're not kin. Kinslaying is something done within the same noble house. If a Stark killed a Stark then it would be kinslaying, if a Stark killed a Karstark, it is not kinslaying.
i dont know about the books but in the show joffrey orders to kill robert's bastards not cersei
If I remember in the book it's implied that it's Cersei who gives the order
To be honest I think Gendry is the only legit Baratheon left in the story so he should take up all lands belonging to the Baratheon name.
He was in the show, but it's unlikely in the books. Robert has 3 living bastards in the books: Mya Stone, Edric Storm, and Gendry. Edric is acknowledged and a son, Mya is acknowledged, but a daughter, while Gendry remained unacknowledged. If any of Robert's bastards were likely to be legitimized in the book continuity, it'd be Edric
Not legit
I love how amazed you are on the simple fact that you were doubting you being able to have enough subject matter on your topic to be able to make a video on the House Barathian's familly tree & further you again mentioned it with shock.But why im amazed is you say & do all this while at the same time you start the video by anouncing that your not going to cover the first 300 years of the Barathian Familly tree which is allot of info tones of info most of it & it being very interesting & crucial to the timeline of how & when the Barathians House became a powerfull house with so much influence & the lands which they had acquired & were given Lordship over them & also the history of the great or big battles fought for them & to find out & know things like how Stormsend got the name Stormsend.Lets Face it Ther was choke information on the subject & i find it really nuts & odd & frustrating that you would short change such a interesting storyline & screw viewers out of the opertunity to gain some super cool knolledge & miss out on the opertunity to see & do awesome & neat stuff like going places we all knew to still be a Secret.
could you do a tyrell family tree
Where does it say that ormund was his son. It just says Heir... But Idk also you should mention that Lyonel had another son known as Harbart
Never mind I'm sorry bout that m8 I see but now you know that Harbart was a baratheon
I remember reading a little about him. There was too little info to connect the dots
+whycreate wait apparently Orys Baratheon had two sons, one we don't know the name two and the other was named Davos, and the one we don't know the name to had two sons, Robar and Raymont, Robar having a son, Boremund, and a daughter, Jocelyn, who married an Aemon Targaryen, and Boremund had two sons, Borros, and another son (we don't know his name) but Borros died without male issue during the dance with dragons, having 4 daughters, and his younger brother had a son, and from that Son all the modern Baratheons come from
+whycreate also Lyonel was the son of a reigning lord of House Baratheon, and this reigning lord had two younger brothers, the youngest of which called Gowen who married Tya lannister. Also Lyonels other son was Harbert not Harbart
+whycreate the Baratheons always had Valryian blood, the earliest known Record of that was when Robar married Alyssa Velaryon, and you know Ormund and Rhaelle
it is definitely soul of cinder
Tyrell next or not
If viewers are cool with shorter family trees...its going to be either Martell, Greyjoy, or Tyrell
+whycreate ok thanks
No Robert had 20 kids
So the only Baratheon alive in the show is Gendry
Yea but in the books there is at least 4 bastards still alive. Plus Stannis and Shireen are still alive.
Orys looks like a hotter version of Robert
Though it isn't shown in tv but Stannis did care about Renly. Until clash of kings. I still think It's Renly’s own fault. Since Stannis didn't have sons, his true and legal heir was Renly. Which the latter failed to understand and waged war against his brother. Stannis also gave Edric Storm to Renly yo raise
So are stannis, Robert and renly targaryan?
WargAttack Through the female line yes. In fact they are great great etc children of Aegon the Conquer as much as Danerys and her brothers. Also Targaryens and Baratheons mixed together several other times as well so it's not just Orys and Rhaelle 200+ years later.
9xprincess i truly belive that to be a «real» targaryan and have the blood of old valyria and the dragon, you’re entire family must be of incest. It it the only way to not water out the dragons blood and magic, and to keep the beautiful traites like the bleached blond hair and purple eyes alive. Targaryans seem to be imune to the often horrible side of incest like stillborns and deformed kids, with each generation only getting more beautiful and having even more bleached hair
@@wargattack8837No...the Targaryens themselves are not entirely out of incest and their main line has blood from all over the 7 Kingdoms. If Orys was the halfbrother to Aegon, then the Baratheon line is a junior Tagrgaryen line.
Either way Stannis, Robert and Renly's grandmother was Princess Rhaelle Targaryen (whose mother was from the Riverlands), making them and their father first and second cousins to Dany, her brothers and father. Not to mention the Targaryen blood in Baratheons from previous generations. Really the only thing that makes Robert and his brothers not identify with Targaryens is the primogeniture system. Dany is more "pure" but not by that much.
Yes looks wise the Targaryens don't suffer the side effects of incest but neither do the Lannister twins. In ASOIAF it seems to manifest more in being mentality unstable. In the case of the Targaryens it seems to be a trait that gets enhanced by in breeding.
9xprinces i think you misunderstood me, the targaryas did marry off their kind to other houses and families yes, but they always made sure to get an extra boy and a girl who they could marry to eachother, to keep the dragons blood magic alive and not watered out
9xprincess the mad king got 3 kids, he married rheagar off to another house and then got dany and viserys so that tvey could marry and keep the blood pure
Gendry lives...
But in the show why dosent dany or jon legitimize gendry and make him a baratheon
I'm sure they wanna wait till their enemies are dead.
What about edrick storm
So Gendry is not cannon?
He is, just a combination of two characters. Another one of Robert's Bastards named Edric Storm, has has the story where Melisandre toys with him and has Davos save him.
anyone know how he makes these videos
Who the hell Corwen Baratheon?
What were the obvious reasons?
I wonder will the baratheons
Survive
3:58 Wtf!?
Martell Next!
2 main bastards in book and 1 in show gendry. Also rumor that gendry is legitimate