good truth bomb for the weebs here. bill gates dropped out of college bc dude was pretty much 100% committed into making microsoft happen, im gonna drop out of college cuz im lazy af
@@junocchi7 Successful people drop out of Harvard/MIT/CalTech/etc because they are busy with million/billion dollars project. Neet drops out of community college because neet is a failure. Many don't understand that.
Atleast in the States that's a valid option most of the time but places like Japan is a lot more riskier especially with asian culture and all that (something ik too much about from my own collegiate expirience) and it happened to work. But options like hers over in Japan are looked down upon if it all fails and she needs another job right after so atleast she got the best end of it
I feel Choco-sensei on a spiritual level, I entered college without actually having a goal in mind or even knowing what to do, I poorly chose a course that ruined my mental health, so I ended up dropping out in my 3rd year and being a shut in for a year and a half. I was lucky that a distant relative hired me, even when I was a college dropout, have been lucky enough to be in an environment that lets me recover my mental health this past 3 years. The thought of going back to college still terrifies me but not the same level as the first year where I still suffered panic attacks just by thinking about it
i'm really similar to you, when i enter college i didn't know what to do, i was good in science so i enter biology, hated it, went in another sector it was better but i was just nonchalatant about it, i didn't hate it, but didn't like it either and so i drop out in my 3rd year too because it became clear that the only follow up to that would be a master as just having a license is not enough. and doing 2-3 years of master in something that i don't care would have eaten my sanity so i quit. now i'm don't know what to do, 25 years old and only a high school diploma, basically wasted 5 years in the uni ( 1 in biology, 1 in Geography, 3 in history) but i'm more relax than ever, doing small job, hobby, even enter the conservatory and i play in some big band. i don't think i would have been able to experience all of this if i continued in a master, and i would have probably ended up as a teacher somewhere. the kind that hate his job and punish the student for it. will probably do some online degree as i really don't want to redo the whole : go to the big student city/capital ( because there is nothing in my small town), get a job, get a flat, and then only be able to go to the university ( and be tired all the time). with covid, i think that everyone realize that distance working is possible.
Aye, I share a similar experience, dropping out on my third year and being a shut-in for 5 years, which I'm ashamed to admit. I think I've changed now, and can only hope I don't revert to being a shut-in anymore in the future.
can relate to that. Go to college w/o any plan, parents telling me that's the way of life (going to college after high school), almost dropping out but the college somehow help me to graduate. After that I realize, I dont really know what im doing in life. shut in for half a year before a major urgent tragedy forcing me to enter the workforce in a field that has no relation to my degree at all. Mental break down? I did but somehow I managed to hold on. Hate it? not really but it open up my eyes a little bit about my future (better than nothing). I seldom question myself WHAT IF I don't waste my time go to college instead learning "new set of practical skill" by entering the workforce
Nice to know you're in a better place now. I'm currently in my 3rd year of college, but I honestly still have no idea what I'm doing. And I'm in a course where if I don't go to med school or take up masters after graduating, there's basically no clear future or career. I hope whatever happens in my college journey, I'd be able to end up in a healthy and decent working environment too
Choco-sen was right reality is different. Not everything you expect will succeed you can always make mistakes in your life and if you learned from your mistakes that's what will make you grow as a person
@@Sedkitgar In other words, she LISTENED to the advice given to her, and used it to shape her choices. Not many people listen to others. Despite what many think, actually listening to someone else's advice is really, really hard to do. Not many people do it.
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" Choco-sensei was not sure she wanted to go to college, the teacher from the vocational school took that opportunity with their first question and induced her to sign up, and paid, for the cooking lessons. She benefit from that, but it wasn't out of kindness of that teacher.
You’d never think she hated cooking from what you see now. In a weird way, choosing something you hate doing is an inspired approach, because you have no illusions about your field and can approach it realistically. You may even come to enjoy it. Being passionate about something may almost be a detriment because you set pie-in-the-sky expectations for your career and get disillusioned quickly.
Yup. The saying that is along the lines of "Turn a hobby into a career, and you'll never work a day in your life" is pretty much bs. Some might be able to do it, but for the majority of people all you'll get is the loss of a hobby you once enjoyed doing.
It really depends on the field and your estimate of it, it makes sense for fields like acting or singing since there isn't much job security but you can definitely pull off a turn your hobby into a job if you're hobby is something that is practically and measurably useful like programming or repair work
@@jkh378 That's bullshit designed for people to work more. Companies invent this BS so they stick around. I'd say work within your pay grade. Doing anything above and beyond doesn't reward much despite what people say. They're literally only saying it so they can pull out more work from you.
@@wakawakachoochoo7047 Yup, and hating cooking but loving eating just means that now you can go full Thanos. "... Fine, I'll cook it myself, but better."
"Then I received an invitation from YAGOO" First image that came to mind was a Smash letter with the Hololive logo on it ! Jokes aside, I can relate to her. I held off on pursuing a career in the gaming industry because I was afraid of being disappointed or failing. But I changed course during my college years and now I work at a game dev studio ! ✌🏿
Choco: "And then soon after all that I got an invitation from Yagoo. And there i was being a demon school nurse while working my other job" And this is the reason folks why Yagoo is best girl.
If only the employers here in my country aren't so strict with their applicant requirements, I wouldn't go to college. Now that I have a B.S. Psychology degree, I think I'll try pushing it to master or doctor.
First they demand you meet the education requirements. So you get the necessary education. Then they demand you have prior work experience. At that point you're just out of luck, because how are you supposed to get experience in a field where you need experience in order to get experience? Work feels like a racket.
The things you learn in college most of the time aren't applicable to the real work too. If you get into the job you'd still need to learn tons of stuff. If they teach that in college then maybe it'll just be more worth for your money. Education is such a joke with capitalism.
@@nai3346 You end up with mediocre employees that were raised by their rich parents. Maybe if they allowed anyone as long as they have a skill, we won't have this shortage of talent.
@@Einscrest there are also lots of employers who are greedy as fuck. They only see poaching of existing talent and refuse to train and when the talents retire all you have left are inexperienced workforce. There are also some who for example I joke you not try to get a 7 year CPA experienced accountant to fill a junior level position with NO BENEFITS and only 50k a year.
@@nai3346 unfortunately there are more people looking for jobs in the world, than there are jobs that people want to do and/or pay a living wage. So places put artificial barriers in the way of getting hired. Especially when a majority of countries export so many jobs abroad. Its whack. Than there is shit like, the job of a middle manager/ most administrative roles in every work place exist soley to provide a salary increase to certain workers without them getting raises, god forgive you just pay the person who is jgood at their job more money for that job instead of forcing them into a role they cannot do, for more money, because giving them a raise will lead to paying other workers in the same or similar roles more money overall.
Best decision she made. College would just wear her down, and she would end up regretting spending 4+ years on that degree. And the culinary school clearly did wonders, as she's known for her top culinary skills within Hololive. Even in a post-Hololive career, she can use that skill set.
A bit too early to tell but I do think college is not the only way to succeed. She probably gave it a lot more thoughts about college than your average joe.
I think I'm that way too. To be precise I wanted to become service technician on various ships. I thought I'd be doing maintenance on engines only. I was so wrong. But then on the same course I picked up basics of mechanical engineering and C++ programming. Those were I honestly hated it from the get go, but somehow I managed to get into top 3 most of the time in those subjects. And yeah, right now I'm in the middle of making a bachelor degree on marine propulsion shaft alignment with the use of dial gauges. So much for the marine engines I guess.
I agree, college isn't really for everyone, specially when people nowadays ask you for 2 or 3 degrees and put you to do things you could've done with out a degree but rather just training. Hell, I know plenty of people who got degrees and none of them even got a job for what they studied for, they also end up in a huge debt.
That happened to me pretty much, I went straight into University out of College (I'm from the UK, here what most countries call Highschool, we call College) and did a law degree, I got my degree and even went on to get a masters degree in commercial law, I passed with Merit and decided to take a year break since I'd been going through education non-stop my whole life, then covid happened and turned that 1 year break into an indefinite hiatus on life basically. After having so long to think about it I realized I just went to law school to impress my family, I did enjoy my time there, but I didn't do it because I wanted to, it was just to satisfy my family, and now I've got my family on my back asking me why I'm not a lawyer yet and I don't want to tell them it's because I honestly don't want to be one (and that there's a lot more steps to becoming a lawyer in the UK than just getting a law degree).
As somebody who holds a BS and MS in Electrical Engineering, let me be clear: whoever gave her this advice was 100% correct. The purpose of college is to give you a certificate and the prerequisites to do a certain job. If your job doesn't require college, then DO NOT GO TO COLLEGE. College is not the goal; your job/career is your goal. Ask people who actually work in the type of job that you want what you need to get that job, and then go do that. Don't ever ask a college counselor/instructor because they make their living on people attending college, and they do not care if you leave college with a good job and no debt or fail out with a mountain of student loan debt.
I majored in CS which fall into category you mentioned above, but I want to give another perspective why you want to consider to go to college (given time and money (if not via scholarship) is possible). College is actually really good if your focus is not just to get certificate, heck my I even never use my graduation certificate even for applying job. Most of my time was spent on doing competition, community, and internships which sadly most of them require you to be a college student. What I take most from college is the chance of meeting brilliant people throughout my college years, be it classmate, professor, awesome seniors from my college community circle, and even some amazing people from other college that I met during some competitions. By reaching out and connect to those people I can learn so much stuff that college just curriculum-wise not teach you, mainly real work stuff. So yes, the purpose of college I guess to give you education (which for most arguably can be obtain elsewhere) and a certificate, but not only that if you optimize your time there (only come for class, not practically use it, just learn it for exam and then to only get certificate)
This, I wasted so much money trying to get a degree in 3d graphics. While learning about things like painting, photography, art history, printing. After watching interviews with people from industry talk how degrees aren't even giving priority in hiring process i quit. Should have spent those 2,5 years doing some part time job at a restaurant and on free time watch yt tutorials, because that's exactly, what it looked like to learn there.
@@tlaxietlkyon that's actually where vocational school comes really handy. Pick a trade u dn't really hate too much which will serve as source of income until u figure out where ur passion lies. It's a lot easier once you started working. These days, I feel it's quite unlikely that u stick with the 1 career path till the end. I have met engineer who later became restaurant owner and architect who later turned paramedic, etc
@@th3f4t3 Vocational school isn't an option during high school in my country (idk about others). And you risk not getting into college you want or at all because you lose a lot of knowledge needed for entrance exam in one year time (or longer).
I went to college, but I didn’t know what I liked, so I just picked whatever I felt like: Computer Science, because I thought it’s something that links to other things. It was hell, and I realized I didn’t like programming. In fact my teacher really made me hate it. And today I’m officially in my 5th year as a developer 😂
Every single person I knew on college from my batch that went to Computing Technology hated It. So whenever I see someone saying he will choose something related to that cuz he "likes computer or cuz everything today is computers so should be intuitive" I see history repeat itself.
I took Computer Science in my college, because I didn't know what to choose, so I went to a foundation course before that and found out I actually am good in programming (doesn't mean I like it though). Fast forward to now and still am working as a developer.
If you pick computer science. here's an advice. Don't even try learning java as first language like me. It's very very hard.now I'm stuck at doing database which I don't even like doing. wish I have started in C#. And unity that would interest me more than this SQL life
Same boat ... But for me I chose business because I had no idea what else to study And I'm working... But still trying to find a job I actually enjoy...
To be fair, a lot of us went through the same, the pressure and expectations all pile up and can give you a lot of stress and anxiety. It took me arround 2 years of just thinking and working to get back into college with a clear goal in mind.
To bring in somewhat of a different perspective to people that say 'colleges have no use now', I think there's still an objective use for them. Aside from improving your competence in a skill, they offer you an excuse to naturally meet with people, and with that you will be able to be inspired to learn from them and build connections. Not to mention if you manage to finish the degree it gives you at the very least a qualification, which I would argue is still useful in some cases. It's not the kind of thing that would make you a millionaire but I think it's a good survival tool at least. In terms of experience I feel like sometimes you can build them as you're going through school, as I've seen plenty of examples of people who have side gigs as well as completing their studies. I think the main takeaway of her story is not to stay away from college, but I think it's more important to realize that if you are going to pursue something that you love, be ready to accept the full extent of it. Especially when you love something or passionate about it, because even for people who can persevere, it can sometimes be taxing to work on those things because you will know more and more about it, and the more you know about something the more you realize about the things you don't know. More work needs to be put in in order to achieve the 'perfect' result, and that is tiring. So you need to be ready and persevere, at least in my opinion. But I do have to say that Choco's story is indeed inspiring and her way of thinking is just the kind of 'out of the box' thinking that I really admire. It's the kind of thing that feels counterintuitive at first but after spending some time thinking about it makes perfect sense. It has been proven true time and time again in my life that sometimes the thing that I hate the most is what I end up missing when I look back.
My takeaway from Choco is that it's important to not have preconceived notions on something. It's easy to initially romanticise something that you like, but just about everything has two sides to it. Be aware and prepared for the not so fantastic parts of whatever it is you're deciding to pursue
as a college graduate, i regret went to college, wasted alot time and money. literally everything that i learned from college are not being used in my jobs. only go to college when the thing you want to do for living needs college graduate certificate. you can learn many things on internet nowdays.
The only thing college will give you is an easier time to get hired.im not saying its easy to get a job if you have a degree or diploma but it sure does help
Having a degree puts you higher up in the social hierarchy and you get lots more opportunities. It's no longer about the skills you learn in college, but access to opportunities.
on where i live, unless youre a lawyer or doctor or other professions that requires degree to become one, having a degree doesnt really change anything, you still have same chance of getting hired as ppl without degree and you can start business without it.
From my experiences, school is more about networking to create opportunity to have people open the door for you. If you don't have any connections, it's hard to get a foot in the door. Of course the education is important, but you shouldn't neglect networking, the aspect I neglected a lot and regret.
yes, and i agree school and college does make it easier. many ppl maybe didnt realize it till they graduate from school so they go to college for it. but you also can do it without college and degree, family relations does helps alot. NOTE : its not that i hate college or have something against it, i just write my opinion based on my own experience.
What kind of anime twisted logic is this? "I didn't want to be disappointed, so i choose the job i hate and can't do". Well, all's well that ends well, i guess.
I'd like to imagine Yagoo eating in a restaurant that Choco-sensei is cooking for and just giving an envelope as invitation to Hololive to her as he's paying the bill lol
Relatable about it, second hand experience from my friend, but it turned out that she hated her career from the start preventing, like Choco sensei said, daydreaming. At the end, she dropped out cuz the journey that she wanted to take was very much "darker and uncanny" that she could tolerate.
Alright, this clip hits me hard just now. I've suddenly got reminded about the fact that I'm about to enter College soon. Time flies by so fast that I almost forgot about that I'm getting older lmao. This made me feel so nervous.. I'm quite worried about my future since, I also don't have a specific goal set in mind yet.
mine was just finding a job that pays good and live life, with or without a college degree, I always have a career in being a courier for FedEx express if college doesn't work
Awww her teacher is so wise, I can see why she's also wise. Yeah college is usually a waste because most of people don't have goal to be in there, they're just there to get college certificate(?) Getting skill from culinary school is the best thing Choco-sensei could have done! Thank you YAGOO, what a hero 😭😭
And even when you have a goal, there's no assurance you'll get it. I was... 1 point away from getting into grad school. True story. Even had my funding secured... The one asshole prof I had fucked me over.
That's one way to think about how to live i guess. And I'm just glad that choco ended up being happy with her choice. Having expectation do gives us an objective and aspiration. But on the other hand clinging to such expectation is unhealthy and stressful when it doesn't happen
I've got same question once... "what are your specific goal when you got into college"... And me? I just thinking i want go into college, find better job after that and don't even thinking about any thing than that...😂
It's a life skill, whats cool is she can literally take that skill with her anywhere through her journey in life and it will always benefit her, whether its with work or just everyday living.
True, went to college and university. Came out ended up being a neet in the pandemic. Found hololive and the beauty that is best girl and the rest was history
I am glad to see not only Choco but also fellow STEM commenters (Aero Eng myself) stating what many and others find out too late. University is not a guarantee for a job and too many people underestimate the need for people with actual trade skills that are attained from vocational colleges and or guild skill schools. Glad to see Choco sensei chose a path that netted her a much better outlook and a skill she can use anytime and anywhere.
Damn true, Choco-sen. I went to university just to find different kinds of people that you can clealy tell "this one will get a good job", "this one will have his name going globally soon" and "this one is going to be jobless".
choco gets it. one of the reasons i didn’t want to major in english is bc i just like stories too much to want to actually have to read them for a class and be graded on my work and everything. the process of being evaluated makes you come to hate it and i didn’t want that, so instead i became a dual philosophy/japanese major. making your passion your work can be a real double-edged sword imo.
I'm with Choco-sensei at this. I'm at my point of my life wondering if I did the right thing now. 2nd year college now and about to get 3rd, but starting to think if I did the right thing especially the course that I choose. At my point of my life right now I want to work for 2 reasons, experience and money of course. It's easy to romanticize your life, but reality doesn't work that way, I agree. Before entering college I thought that everything would go smoothly since I'm enthusiastic about being a businessman, but now I'm having a doubt whether I choose the right decision. At some point of your life you'll experience doubt and regret, after all it's part of growing up. I really want to stop for a moment but the anxiety and worries got me always into thinking about my parents reaction and expectations.
Yeah that’s the harsh reality. I was enthusiastic about animation and when I actually did it I was disappointed. Though on the note of university/colleges (and call me an ignorant smart ass for doing this) I think the concept of going to a 4 year university is coming less and less appealing as time goes on. Especially when there are studios or independent learning institutions that offer the same at a fraction of a cost
Not to mention that nearly all universities run a scam, where the graduates have only one prospect of employment: go and teach the same thing in another university. There's an artificial demand created by universities in all sorts of specialized areas, they need teachers for specific subjects, so they can get more students in... except there's no demand (or it's very limited) for such professions outside the university.
The biggest issue in my view isn't even the difference in what you want to do. I went to college just like her on her cooking job, without expectations, only trying to learn a trade. That IS only a issue If you already had an image of the job, but I had no ideia what I wanted to do. The biggest issue is that after college you are an much more expensive employee but without experience, so nobody wants to employe you.
Honestly unless its for very technical skills or something you need doctrines in (so MD's, advance engineering, etc), college and university is practically useless. You might as well do trade/technical schools or apprenticeships for most things. Less cost and way more hands on which is much more important for them.
"learning institutions that offer the same at a fraction of a cost" - it is true but you still need to be careful , so many scam or low quality learning institute out there who just want to make quick money from inexperience student
@@busetgadapet that is so true. On that note, information does not equate to education as well, so we all have to be wary of where the source of where we're getting information from as well!!
I can confirm, not going to college is not the end of the world, but you need to take control of your life, time runs fast and stops for no one. So be careful what you do with your own time.
Going for a trade skill is a reasonable path if you don't know what you want to do. But I'm not sure with Choco-sensei's mentality of "pick a job you hate" is something I'd recommend, though. Maybe something you're unfamiliar with & would like to get into, which is also different from picking your dream job.
If only I'm at the point of like, 3 years ago. No need to rewind everything, just have my situation at 3 years ago. No need to go like 5 or 10 years ago. I've been stuck in this one thought where I feel like I'm lying to myself, that I should take a job where it's not my best interest, and have everything that I like to be there just to be enjoyed. "Hobby as a job" scares me for a long while. Imagine the one thing that you liked the most suddenly turned into your source of stress and frustration. I took this college that I don't particularly like, but I just took it for the job that I plan to do. But then I begin to question "do I need to like it after all?" and simply lose interest. Whether I fail my studies or succeed, it matters little to me, that sort of feeling. What Choco said opened my eyes. Suddenly what I did doesn't seem weird. I simply just have to do it. Like homework, you might not like doing the homework, but you just have to do it. If only I realized how simple it is 3 years ago. There's still time, but it's like the last few drops of the hourglass for me.
Aside from the fact that you need to pick the best compatible line of work, people don't forget to save and invest for your future when you're so old you can't work anymore.
This mentality of being able to do the things you hate or have a hard time with is the one people should be fostering. Life is hard. Building up strength to face challenges and beat them will make your victories and good times that much sweeter and more profound. It doesn't matter if you shamelessly crawl, cry, and barely make it to the finish line; as long as you finish without cheating yourself, you will get better. Often, those things you hate will have their purpose later on. I had to repeat every math subject at least once for a grand total of 6 repeats in college and I hated every second but I forced myself through it through sheer will. Now I use the very same math I hated every day at my job and it is invaluable in my practice because not everyone can do it. The very same math even informs me and gives me inspiration lately when it comes to making complex artwork which is my most beloved hobby. Don't give up. It'll all make sense in the end.
She really couldn't handle the possibility of being disappointed to the point she'd rather train for something she hates? A dangerously insane woman if you ask me.
Choco sensei is a mood, as a dude in my 30s my whole recommendation to young people if that unless you are really passionate about pursing a career with a degree dont join a college, crippling debt and not landing a job afterwards is true pain, if you are unsure save yourselves the pain and better learn a trade job, those are always on demand and pays well specially these days. Dont join a college for parents or social pressure if you do it is because you are 110% sure you want it.
Not going to college isn't an option in my country tho. Are all careers that bad in the US (I'm assuming you are from there, sorry if not)? Aren't things like CS or engineering worth it there?.
@@Devilextremeful not really, you only go to college if you want to do a stem career or finance/business or it/computer fixing literally nobody will hire you as a engineer or a computer science degree with no job or work experience on your resume, even a dead end office job that gives 2 dollars above the minimum wage won't hire you if you don't have specific amounts of work experience it's absolute bull shit in this system we created and I've pretty much lost hope of being able to move out from my parents home and live independently with this country literally collapsing on itself and the USD becoming as valuable as the Bolivar and world war on the teetering end of the us and europe
Wish someone had asked me those questions, or I had asked myself, when I was getting ready to graduate high school. Would've kept me from going into debt after everyone pushed me into going to college.
I wished i could have seen this before entering university. Not sure if it would have changed my mind, but it would certainly have made me see things from a different perspective.
"I was a complete void during work hours" Yeah, I went for a discipline that I loved, and feel exactly the same, so at least I guess Choco is not having to deal with the disappointment.
Damn Choco had some seriously big brain perspectives in this on work motivations that set her up to succeed, definitely smarter than I was at that age.
Most college students don’t have a clue what they will do after. ALL college graduated years down the road will tell you that what they do now as a job never could have been imagined or predicted. HOWEVER, the college years are an opportunity to experiment with your skills and interests and work alongside many hard working individuals like you. These years form you and while college will NOT guarantee you a job or a success story like too many people fantasize, the ideas you get and the networks you create will put you ahead of many people who didn’t go. Of course keep in mind that there are other ways to build a career other than college. For me, I discovered I wasn’t cut out for mechanical engineering but I still went back for a different major, manufacturing. As I worked through hourly labor jobs to support myself, I noticed that the managers would always confidently give me the better pay or the technical role due to my college courses. I haven’t finished yet but I’ve been making good connections just through the people I met at university. Oh ya, and no college debt. Think about it before you pass up the opportunity… unless of course you find a better one
Sensei has the right idea. If I weren't so passionate about my chosen area of study, I would have probably just gone to trade school instead of college. And even with that passion, there have been times where I considered quitting the science program to do something else. If you don't have a clear idea of what you want to do, it's best to explore other options rather than wear yourself out at college.
I started off a Computer Science & Engineering major but had to change paths after transferring from Junior College to Uni. I just did not enjoy higher-level math and found the outdated programming classes extremely challenging due to boredom and disinterest. Finally just chose a business degree (Managerial Information Systems) just that stuff and get through school. I'm now a decade into an IT career in the semiconductor manufacturing field anyway lol
Entered in college with the same mindset, still somehow passed and even graduated. Its an engineering course but i never felt proud after graduating, about to take the board exam but even if i pass that exam i don't really see myself landing a job 🤷♂️. Carefully decide things after high school guys, research vocations and find what you really want to do. Don't end up someone whos going to just wonder "wtf do i want to do with my life".
And then there's me. I avoided my dream career because everybody told me it won't be as glamorous as I imagined. In retrospect, I already knew it wasn't glamorous or "fun" but I still wanted to do it. I wasn't delusional, I tried it and actually enjoyed the hard and tedious parts. But they had me convinced I was a naive dreamer. So I went to college for a more "sensible" job. Years later I'm still obsessed with it and struggling to get started later in life. I wasted so much time because I had the wisdom but not the confidence. It's good to caution children about pursuing a career that seems fun on the outside, but it's also important to understand that many people really are built for their dream job.
Yo, that's actually real fucking smart. If you think doing what you love will be fun and games only, reality will smack you in the face and beat you down. A job is a job, regardless of passion. Going for something you hate let's you avoid unrealistic expectations.
Choco being able to go for a job in something she hates is a sign of INCREDIBLE strength imo, as someone who doesn't have any idea for what to do because I hate the idea of doing anything. If I had Choco's mindset and will I'd be unstoppable. Thanks for the subs!
I learned orders of magnitude more practical skills from the military than I ever did in college. I don't think I'd be near where I am financially if I stayed in.
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Remember; it's okay not to go to college, but if you don't start learning something or gain any skill, you'll still end up as a NEET.
Don't be a NEET, be employed
good truth bomb for the weebs here. bill gates dropped out of college bc dude was pretty much 100% committed into making microsoft happen, im gonna drop out of college cuz im lazy af
NEET. Not engaged in Education, Employment, and/or Training.
Do any of those and you basically not a neet. Work, school, course, anything.
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Successful people drop out of Harvard/MIT/CalTech/etc because they are busy with million/billion dollars project.
Neet drops out of community college because neet is a failure.
Many don't understand that.
Atleast in the States that's a valid option most of the time but places like Japan is a lot more riskier especially with asian culture and all that (something ik too much about from my own collegiate expirience) and it happened to work. But options like hers over in Japan are looked down upon if it all fails and she needs another job right after so atleast she got the best end of it
Lol, what the heck, that's actually a really nice advice!
Sasuga Choco-sen
I feel Choco-sensei on a spiritual level, I entered college without actually having a goal in mind or even knowing what to do, I poorly chose a course that ruined my mental health, so I ended up dropping out in my 3rd year and being a shut in for a year and a half. I was lucky that a distant relative hired me, even when I was a college dropout, have been lucky enough to be in an environment that lets me recover my mental health this past 3 years. The thought of going back to college still terrifies me but not the same level as the first year where I still suffered panic attacks just by thinking about it
i'm really similar to you, when i enter college i didn't know what to do, i was good in science so i enter biology, hated it, went in another sector it was better but i was just nonchalatant about it, i didn't hate it, but didn't like it either and so i drop out in my 3rd year too because it became clear that the only follow up to that would be a master as just having a license is not enough. and doing 2-3 years of master in something that i don't care would have eaten my sanity so i quit.
now i'm don't know what to do, 25 years old and only a high school diploma, basically wasted 5 years in the uni ( 1 in biology, 1 in Geography, 3 in history) but i'm more relax than ever, doing small job, hobby, even enter the conservatory and i play in some big band. i don't think i would have been able to experience all of this if i continued in a master, and i would have probably ended up as a teacher somewhere. the kind that hate his job and punish the student for it.
will probably do some online degree as i really don't want to redo the whole : go to the big student city/capital ( because there is nothing in my small town), get a job, get a flat, and then only be able to go to the university ( and be tired all the time). with covid, i think that everyone realize that distance working is possible.
Aye, I share a similar experience, dropping out on my third year and being a shut-in for 5 years, which I'm ashamed to admit. I think I've changed now, and can only hope I don't revert to being a shut-in anymore in the future.
can relate to that. Go to college w/o any plan, parents telling me that's the way of life (going to college after high school), almost dropping out but the college somehow help me to graduate. After that I realize, I dont really know what im doing in life. shut in for half a year before a major urgent tragedy forcing me to enter the workforce in a field that has no relation to my degree at all. Mental break down? I did but somehow I managed to hold on. Hate it? not really but it open up my eyes a little bit about my future (better than nothing). I seldom question myself WHAT IF I don't waste my time go to college instead learning "new set of practical skill" by entering the workforce
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Nice to know you're in a better place now. I'm currently in my 3rd year of college, but I honestly still have no idea what I'm doing. And I'm in a course where if I don't go to med school or take up masters after graduating, there's basically no clear future or career. I hope whatever happens in my college journey, I'd be able to end up in a healthy and decent working environment too
Choco-sen was right reality is different. Not everything you expect will succeed you can always make mistakes in your life and if you learned from your mistakes that's what will make you grow as a person
and lets not forget she was a school nurse .. now her song secret classroom makes sense
Choco was lucky. She got a great advise from a clearly great teacher.
MVP
no. Her way of thinking and belief in making of the decisions is what makes her in the right path.
She made the right choice.
@@Sedkitgar Simp. Get the teacher some appreciation too
@@Sedkitgar In other words, she LISTENED to the advice given to her, and used it to shape her choices. Not many people listen to others. Despite what many think, actually listening to someone else's advice is really, really hard to do. Not many people do it.
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" Choco-sensei was not sure she wanted to go to college, the teacher from the vocational school took that opportunity with their first question and induced her to sign up, and paid, for the cooking lessons. She benefit from that, but it wasn't out of kindness of that teacher.
_If you're rock bottom, you can only go up_ - Choco-sensei, Best Career Counselor of 2022
It's such an hilarious outlook, but also a true one
So basically Choco chose 'nihilistic fatalism' as her work philosophy and it somehow worked out.
When you realize she's called Sensei for a reason.
You’d never think she hated cooking from what you see now.
In a weird way, choosing something you hate doing is an inspired approach, because you have no illusions about your field and can approach it realistically. You may even come to enjoy it. Being passionate about something may almost be a detriment because you set pie-in-the-sky expectations for your career and get disillusioned quickly.
The way I see it, you can hate cooking, but you can never hate eating delicious food which is a huge plus for Choco-sensei.
Yup. The saying that is along the lines of "Turn a hobby into a career, and you'll never work a day in your life" is pretty much bs. Some might be able to do it, but for the majority of people all you'll get is the loss of a hobby you once enjoyed doing.
It really depends on the field and your estimate of it, it makes sense for fields like acting or singing since there isn't much job security but you can definitely pull off a turn your hobby into a job if you're hobby is something that is practically and measurably useful like programming or repair work
@@jkh378 That's bullshit designed for people to work more. Companies invent this BS so they stick around.
I'd say work within your pay grade. Doing anything above and beyond doesn't reward much despite what people say. They're literally only saying it so they can pull out more work from you.
@@wakawakachoochoo7047 Yup, and hating cooking but loving eating just means that now you can go full Thanos.
"... Fine, I'll cook it myself, but better."
"Then I received an invitation from YAGOO"
First image that came to mind was a Smash letter with the Hololive logo on it !
Jokes aside, I can relate to her. I held off on pursuing a career in the gaming industry because I was afraid of being disappointed or failing. But I changed course during my college years and now I work at a game dev studio ! ✌🏿
Choco: "And then soon after all that I got an invitation from Yagoo. And there i was being a demon school nurse while working my other job"
And this is the reason folks why Yagoo is best girl.
"if i have to go to a vocational school anyway, i should rather go for a job that i hate"...interesting way of thinking
If only the employers here in my country aren't so strict with their applicant requirements, I wouldn't go to college. Now that I have a B.S. Psychology degree, I think I'll try pushing it to master or doctor.
First they demand you meet the education requirements. So you get the necessary education. Then they demand you have prior work experience. At that point you're just out of luck, because how are you supposed to get experience in a field where you need experience in order to get experience? Work feels like a racket.
The things you learn in college most of the time aren't applicable to the real work too. If you get into the job you'd still need to learn tons of stuff.
If they teach that in college then maybe it'll just be more worth for your money.
Education is such a joke with capitalism.
@@nai3346 You end up with mediocre employees that were raised by their rich parents.
Maybe if they allowed anyone as long as they have a skill, we won't have this shortage of talent.
@@Einscrest there are also lots of employers who are greedy as fuck. They only see poaching of existing talent and refuse to train and when the talents retire all you have left are inexperienced workforce. There are also some who for example I joke you not try to get a 7 year CPA experienced accountant to fill a junior level position with NO BENEFITS and only 50k a year.
@@nai3346 unfortunately there are more people looking for jobs in the world, than there are jobs that people want to do and/or pay a living wage. So places put artificial barriers in the way of getting hired. Especially when a majority of countries export so many jobs abroad. Its whack.
Than there is shit like, the job of a middle manager/ most administrative roles in every work place exist soley to provide a salary increase to certain workers without them getting raises, god forgive you just pay the person who is jgood at their job more money for that job instead of forcing them into a role they cannot do, for more money, because giving them a raise will lead to paying other workers in the same or similar roles more money overall.
Best decision she made. College would just wear her down, and she would end up regretting spending 4+ years on that degree. And the culinary school clearly did wonders, as she's known for her top culinary skills within Hololive. Even in a post-Hololive career, she can use that skill set.
A bit too early to tell but I do think college is not the only way to succeed. She probably gave it a lot more thoughts about college than your average joe.
@@koruspring1519 :D the culinary school was a great idea. Lets her flex her creativity and also she became a famous Vtuber. It worked out for her.
I think I'm that way too. To be precise I wanted to become service technician on various ships. I thought I'd be doing maintenance on engines only. I was so wrong. But then on the same course I picked up basics of mechanical engineering and C++ programming. Those were I honestly hated it from the get go, but somehow I managed to get into top 3 most of the time in those subjects. And yeah, right now I'm in the middle of making a bachelor degree on marine propulsion shaft alignment with the use of dial gauges.
So much for the marine engines I guess.
I agree, college isn't really for everyone, specially when people nowadays ask you for 2 or 3 degrees and put you to do things you could've done with out a degree but rather just training.
Hell, I know plenty of people who got degrees and none of them even got a job for what they studied for, they also end up in a huge debt.
That happened to me pretty much, I went straight into University out of College (I'm from the UK, here what most countries call Highschool, we call College) and did a law degree, I got my degree and even went on to get a masters degree in commercial law, I passed with Merit and decided to take a year break since I'd been going through education non-stop my whole life, then covid happened and turned that 1 year break into an indefinite hiatus on life basically.
After having so long to think about it I realized I just went to law school to impress my family, I did enjoy my time there, but I didn't do it because I wanted to, it was just to satisfy my family, and now I've got my family on my back asking me why I'm not a lawyer yet and I don't want to tell them it's because I honestly don't want to be one (and that there's a lot more steps to becoming a lawyer in the UK than just getting a law degree).
deliberately choosing a job in which you hate the activities....that may be a biggest brain move I've ever heard sheeshh
Choco giving real advice there and i start questioning my life decisions
As somebody who holds a BS and MS in Electrical Engineering, let me be clear: whoever gave her this advice was 100% correct. The purpose of college is to give you a certificate and the prerequisites to do a certain job. If your job doesn't require college, then DO NOT GO TO COLLEGE. College is not the goal; your job/career is your goal. Ask people who actually work in the type of job that you want what you need to get that job, and then go do that. Don't ever ask a college counselor/instructor because they make their living on people attending college, and they do not care if you leave college with a good job and no debt or fail out with a mountain of student loan debt.
I majored in CS which fall into category you mentioned above, but I want to give another perspective why you want to consider to go to college (given time and money (if not via scholarship) is possible). College is actually really good if your focus is not just to get certificate, heck my I even never use my graduation certificate even for applying job. Most of my time was spent on doing competition, community, and internships which sadly most of them require you to be a college student. What I take most from college is the chance of meeting brilliant people throughout my college years, be it classmate, professor, awesome seniors from my college community circle, and even some amazing people from other college that I met during some competitions. By reaching out and connect to those people I can learn so much stuff that college just curriculum-wise not teach you, mainly real work stuff. So yes, the purpose of college I guess to give you education (which for most arguably can be obtain elsewhere) and a certificate, but not only that if you optimize your time there (only come for class, not practically use it, just learn it for exam and then to only get certificate)
This, I wasted so much money trying to get a degree in 3d graphics. While learning about things like painting, photography, art history, printing. After watching interviews with people from industry talk how degrees aren't even giving priority in hiring process i quit. Should have spent those 2,5 years doing some part time job at a restaurant and on free time watch yt tutorials, because that's exactly, what it looked like to learn there.
The problem with the advice is finding a job you would wsnt want to do and pursue. I never knew what I wanted. Not even now.
@@tlaxietlkyon that's actually where vocational school comes really handy. Pick a trade u dn't really hate too much which will serve as source of income until u figure out where ur passion lies. It's a lot easier once you started working. These days, I feel it's quite unlikely that u stick with the 1 career path till the end. I have met engineer who later became restaurant owner and architect who later turned paramedic, etc
@@th3f4t3 Vocational school isn't an option during high school in my country (idk about others). And you risk not getting into college you want or at all because you lose a lot of knowledge needed for entrance exam in one year time (or longer).
I went to college, but I didn’t know what I liked, so I just picked whatever I felt like: Computer Science, because I thought it’s something that links to other things. It was hell, and I realized I didn’t like programming. In fact my teacher really made me hate it.
And today I’m officially in my 5th year as a developer 😂
Every single person I knew on college from my batch that went to Computing Technology hated It. So whenever I see someone saying he will choose something related to that cuz he "likes computer or cuz everything today is computers so should be intuitive" I see history repeat itself.
Same i just picked what might give me stable money in the future so i picked a random course in medicine. Im now graduating this june or july (BSMT)
I took Computer Science in my college, because I didn't know what to choose, so I went to a foundation course before that and found out I actually am good in programming (doesn't mean I like it though). Fast forward to now and still am working as a developer.
If you pick computer science. here's an advice. Don't even try learning java as first language like me.
It's very very hard.now I'm stuck at doing database which I don't even like doing. wish I have started in C#. And unity that would interest me more than this SQL life
Same boat ... But for me I chose business because I had no idea what else to study
And I'm working... But still trying to find a job I actually enjoy...
Man, this is why i love hololive, despite being funny and all, they r so inspiring
To be fair, a lot of us went through the same, the pressure and expectations all pile up and can give you a lot of stress and anxiety. It took me arround 2 years of just thinking and working to get back into college with a clear goal in mind.
interesting life philosophy haha, thanks for the clip
To bring in somewhat of a different perspective to people that say 'colleges have no use now', I think there's still an objective use for them. Aside from improving your competence in a skill, they offer you an excuse to naturally meet with people, and with that you will be able to be inspired to learn from them and build connections. Not to mention if you manage to finish the degree it gives you at the very least a qualification, which I would argue is still useful in some cases. It's not the kind of thing that would make you a millionaire but I think it's a good survival tool at least. In terms of experience I feel like sometimes you can build them as you're going through school, as I've seen plenty of examples of people who have side gigs as well as completing their studies.
I think the main takeaway of her story is not to stay away from college, but I think it's more important to realize that if you are going to pursue something that you love, be ready to accept the full extent of it. Especially when you love something or passionate about it, because even for people who can persevere, it can sometimes be taxing to work on those things because you will know more and more about it, and the more you know about something the more you realize about the things you don't know. More work needs to be put in in order to achieve the 'perfect' result, and that is tiring. So you need to be ready and persevere, at least in my opinion.
But I do have to say that Choco's story is indeed inspiring and her way of thinking is just the kind of 'out of the box' thinking that I really admire. It's the kind of thing that feels counterintuitive at first but after spending some time thinking about it makes perfect sense. It has been proven true time and time again in my life that sometimes the thing that I hate the most is what I end up missing when I look back.
My takeaway from Choco is that it's important to not have preconceived notions on something. It's easy to initially romanticise something that you like, but just about everything has two sides to it. Be aware and prepared for the not so fantastic parts of whatever it is you're deciding to pursue
as a college graduate, i regret went to college, wasted alot time and money. literally everything that i learned from college are not being used in my jobs.
only go to college when the thing you want to do for living needs college graduate certificate. you can learn many things on internet nowdays.
The only thing college will give you is an easier time to get hired.im not saying its easy to get a job if you have a degree or diploma but it sure does help
Having a degree puts you higher up in the social hierarchy and you get lots more opportunities. It's no longer about the skills you learn in college, but access to opportunities.
on where i live, unless youre a lawyer or doctor or other professions that requires degree to become one, having a degree doesnt really change anything, you still have same chance of getting hired as ppl without degree and you can start business without it.
From my experiences, school is more about networking to create opportunity to have people open the door for you. If you don't have any connections, it's hard to get a foot in the door. Of course the education is important, but you shouldn't neglect networking, the aspect I neglected a lot and regret.
yes, and i agree school and college does make it easier. many ppl maybe didnt realize it till they graduate from school so they go to college for it.
but you also can do it without college and degree, family relations does helps alot.
NOTE : its not that i hate college or have something against it, i just write my opinion based on my own experience.
What kind of anime twisted logic is this? "I didn't want to be disappointed, so i choose the job i hate and can't do". Well, all's well that ends well, i guess.
"I declined my college offer and went to a culinary school instead."
Choco ROCKS
Choco-sensei is Super Ultra Adorable. Change my mind.
I'd like to imagine Yagoo eating in a restaurant that Choco-sensei is cooking for and just giving an envelope as invitation to Hololive to her as he's paying the bill lol
Relatable about it, second hand experience from my friend, but it turned out that she hated her career from the start preventing, like Choco sensei said, daydreaming. At the end, she dropped out cuz the journey that she wanted to take was very much "darker and uncanny" that she could tolerate.
Alright, this clip hits me hard just now. I've suddenly got reminded about the fact that I'm about to enter College soon. Time flies by so fast that I almost forgot about that I'm getting older lmao. This made me feel so nervous.. I'm quite worried about my future since, I also don't have a specific goal set in mind yet.
hope u figure it out 👍
mine was just finding a job that pays good and live life, with or without a college degree, I always have a career in being a courier for FedEx express if college doesn't work
This is big brain...choosing a subject she hated already...I chose a subject I liked, and dropped out of college...
These are words of wisdom a college student like me had to hear.... God, it almost got my eyes. Respect to Choco, definitely a sensei.
Honestly, Choco sensei is right... Totally right and I can relate on this
Awww her teacher is so wise, I can see why she's also wise. Yeah college is usually a waste because most of people don't have goal to be in there, they're just there to get college certificate(?)
Getting skill from culinary school is the best thing Choco-sensei could have done!
Thank you YAGOO, what a hero 😭😭
And even when you have a goal, there's no assurance you'll get it.
I was... 1 point away from getting into grad school. True story. Even had my funding secured... The one asshole prof I had fucked me over.
As women she win almost every thing with choice pick a cook skill. Cook indeed hard and make her better one.
Maybe we also need start learning cook..
That's one way to think about how to live i guess.
And I'm just glad that choco ended up being happy with her choice.
Having expectation do gives us an objective and aspiration. But on the other hand clinging to such expectation is unhealthy and stressful when it doesn't happen
I've got same question once... "what are your specific goal when you got into college"... And me? I just thinking i want go into college, find better job after that and don't even thinking about any thing than that...😂
It's a life skill, whats cool is she can literally take that skill with her anywhere through her journey in life and it will always benefit her, whether its with work or just everyday living.
Set yourself up for failure and prove yourself wrong. That's true self validation.
choco had zero expectations but sheer willpower
Inversed enthusiasm to do a job.....usually its the other way around. Yet, Choco releases a cookbook.
True, went to college and university. Came out ended up being a neet in the pandemic. Found hololive and the beauty that is best girl and the rest was history
I'm in the same situations. Hang in there!
this is actually really good advice, to do something you hate bc what are you gonna do? hate it?
That reasoning is quite brilliant, actually.
I am glad to see not only Choco but also fellow STEM commenters (Aero Eng myself) stating what many and others find out too late. University is not a guarantee for a job and too many people underestimate the need for people with actual trade skills that are attained from vocational colleges and or guild skill schools. Glad to see Choco sensei chose a path that netted her a much better outlook and a skill she can use anytime and anywhere.
Yo that was some real shit right there. "If you're already hit rock bottom, it's only going up from there."
Damn true, Choco-sen. I went to university just to find different kinds of people that you can clealy tell "this one will get a good job", "this one will have his name going globally soon" and "this one is going to be jobless".
This explains Choco's S tier cooking.
choco sensei : whatever goes, goes!
literally
choco gets it. one of the reasons i didn’t want to major in english is bc i just like stories too much to want to actually have to read them for a class and be graded on my work and everything. the process of being evaluated makes you come to hate it and i didn’t want that, so instead i became a dual philosophy/japanese major. making your passion your work can be a real double-edged sword imo.
if only someone told me this 14 years ago.
I'm with Choco-sensei at this. I'm at my point of my life wondering if I did the right thing now. 2nd year college now and about to get 3rd, but starting to think if I did the right thing especially the course that I choose. At my point of my life right now I want to work for 2 reasons, experience and money of course.
It's easy to romanticize your life, but reality doesn't work that way, I agree. Before entering college I thought that everything would go smoothly since I'm enthusiastic about being a businessman, but now I'm having a doubt whether I choose the right decision. At some point of your life you'll experience doubt and regret, after all it's part of growing up.
I really want to stop for a moment but the anxiety and worries got me always into thinking about my parents reaction and expectations.
Yeah that’s the harsh reality. I was enthusiastic about animation and when I actually did it I was disappointed. Though on the note of university/colleges (and call me an ignorant smart ass for doing this) I think the concept of going to a 4 year university is coming less and less appealing as time goes on. Especially when there are studios or independent learning institutions that offer the same at a fraction of a cost
Not to mention that nearly all universities run a scam, where the graduates have only one prospect of employment: go and teach the same thing in another university. There's an artificial demand created by universities in all sorts of specialized areas, they need teachers for specific subjects, so they can get more students in... except there's no demand (or it's very limited) for such professions outside the university.
The biggest issue in my view isn't even the difference in what you want to do. I went to college just like her on her cooking job, without expectations, only trying to learn a trade. That IS only a issue If you already had an image of the job, but I had no ideia what I wanted to do.
The biggest issue is that after college you are an much more expensive employee but without experience, so nobody wants to employe you.
Honestly unless its for very technical skills or something you need doctrines in (so MD's, advance engineering, etc), college and university is practically useless.
You might as well do trade/technical schools or apprenticeships for most things. Less cost and way more hands on which is much more important for them.
"learning institutions that offer the same at a fraction of a cost" - it is true but you still need to be careful , so many scam or low quality learning institute out there who just want to make quick money from inexperience student
@@busetgadapet that is so true. On that note, information does not equate to education as well, so we all have to be wary of where the source of where we're getting information from as well!!
I can confirm, not going to college is not the end of the world, but you need to take control of your life, time runs fast and stops for no one. So be careful what you do with your own time.
Choco sensei is adorable in her maid outfit
thanks for thee clips it's open my eyes bout things i didn't expect at all for my whole 31 years.
i really appreciate it, thanks man.
Going for a trade skill is a reasonable path if you don't know what you want to do. But I'm not sure with Choco-sensei's mentality of "pick a job you hate" is something I'd recommend, though. Maybe something you're unfamiliar with & would like to get into, which is also different from picking your dream job.
If only I'm at the point of like, 3 years ago. No need to rewind everything, just have my situation at 3 years ago. No need to go like 5 or 10 years ago. I've been stuck in this one thought where I feel like I'm lying to myself, that I should take a job where it's not my best interest, and have everything that I like to be there just to be enjoyed.
"Hobby as a job" scares me for a long while. Imagine the one thing that you liked the most suddenly turned into your source of stress and frustration. I took this college that I don't particularly like, but I just took it for the job that I plan to do. But then I begin to question "do I need to like it after all?" and simply lose interest. Whether I fail my studies or succeed, it matters little to me, that sort of feeling. What Choco said opened my eyes. Suddenly what I did doesn't seem weird. I simply just have to do it. Like homework, you might not like doing the homework, but you just have to do it. If only I realized how simple it is 3 years ago. There's still time, but it's like the last few drops of the hourglass for me.
Aside from the fact that you need to pick the best compatible line of work, people don't forget to save and invest for your future when you're so old you can't work anymore.
I never saw it like that. She's got good perspective
This mentality of being able to do the things you hate or have a hard time with is the one people should be fostering. Life is hard. Building up strength to face challenges and beat them will make your victories and good times that much sweeter and more profound. It doesn't matter if you shamelessly crawl, cry, and barely make it to the finish line; as long as you finish without cheating yourself, you will get better. Often, those things you hate will have their purpose later on.
I had to repeat every math subject at least once for a grand total of 6 repeats in college and I hated every second but I forced myself through it through sheer will.
Now I use the very same math I hated every day at my job and it is invaluable in my practice because not everyone can do it. The very same math even informs me and gives me inspiration lately when it comes to making complex artwork which is my most beloved hobby. Don't give up. It'll all make sense in the end.
Such a great inspiration and motivation ❤❤❤ arigatou gozaimasu, Choco-Sensei ❤❤❤
The explanation is very clear for the upcoming future ahead... ❤❤❤
Damn.. Choco-sensei hit us with the no expectation on the job but tried her best.. wow 😳 that's so what's happening right now in this world.
She really couldn't handle the possibility of being disappointed to the point she'd rather train for something she hates? A dangerously insane woman if you ask me.
Choco sensei is a mood, as a dude in my 30s my whole recommendation to young people if that unless you are really passionate about pursing a career with a degree dont join a college, crippling debt and not landing a job afterwards is true pain, if you are unsure save yourselves the pain and better learn a trade job, those are always on demand and pays well specially these days.
Dont join a college for parents or social pressure if you do it is because you are 110% sure you want it.
Not going to college isn't an option in my country tho. Are all careers that bad in the US (I'm assuming you are from there, sorry if not)? Aren't things like CS or engineering worth it there?.
@@Devilextremeful not really, you only go to college if you want to do a stem career or finance/business or it/computer fixing
literally nobody will hire you as a engineer or a computer science degree with no job or work experience on your resume, even a dead end office job that gives 2 dollars above the minimum wage won't hire you if you don't have specific amounts of work experience
it's absolute bull shit in this system we created and I've pretty much lost hope of being able to move out from my parents home and live independently with this country literally collapsing on itself and the USD becoming as valuable as the Bolivar and world war on the teetering end of the us and europe
“Once you hit rock bottom you can only go up.”
Ain’t that the freaking truth. Those are words I love by to this very day
Wish someone had asked me those questions, or I had asked myself, when I was getting ready to graduate high school. Would've kept me from going into debt after everyone pushed me into going to college.
I thought this was supposed to be a comedy but I learned a lesson XD
ありがとうございます!
Choco~sensei
the teacher is right even me thinking this question and ended up not going to college
There is... logic... in what she says.
I wished i could have seen this before entering university. Not sure if it would have changed my mind, but it would certainly have made me see things from a different perspective.
"I was a complete void during work hours"
Yeah, I went for a discipline that I loved, and feel exactly the same, so at least I guess Choco is not having to deal with the disappointment.
Me, who has spent 4 years in college and has already graduated: *"Gachii?"*
Huh... So doing what you love is actually bad for you in the long run. Who coulda guessed.
I see it as more about "you should research about what you like instead of daydreaming stuff that might not happen"
Keep in mind that this is just Choco sensei's experience, there are other opinions out there.
Damn Choco had some seriously big brain perspectives in this on work motivations that set her up to succeed, definitely smarter than I was at that age.
Most college students don’t have a clue what they will do after. ALL college graduated years down the road will tell you that what they do now as a job never could have been imagined or predicted. HOWEVER, the college years are an opportunity to experiment with your skills and interests and work alongside many hard working individuals like you. These years form you and while college will NOT guarantee you a job or a success story like too many people fantasize, the ideas you get and the networks you create will put you ahead of many people who didn’t go. Of course keep in mind that there are other ways to build a career other than college. For me, I discovered I wasn’t cut out for mechanical engineering but I still went back for a different major, manufacturing. As I worked through hourly labor jobs to support myself, I noticed that the managers would always confidently give me the better pay or the technical role due to my college courses. I haven’t finished yet but I’ve been making good connections just through the people I met at university. Oh ya, and no college debt. Think about it before you pass up the opportunity… unless of course you find a better one
Getting a job or degree in something you hate because you can't end up being disillusioned.... that's pretty brilliant actually.
Sensei has the right idea. If I weren't so passionate about my chosen area of study, I would have probably just gone to trade school instead of college. And even with that passion, there have been times where I considered quitting the science program to do something else. If you don't have a clear idea of what you want to do, it's best to explore other options rather than wear yourself out at college.
I started off a Computer Science & Engineering major but had to change paths after transferring from Junior College to Uni. I just did not enjoy higher-level math and found the outdated programming classes extremely challenging due to boredom and disinterest. Finally just chose a business degree (Managerial Information Systems) just that stuff and get through school. I'm now a decade into an IT career in the semiconductor manufacturing field anyway lol
even she doesn't have a university degree choco-sensei is still 100% sensei to me.
Wow...I never really saw it that way but it makes so much sense. Choco sensei is so wise!
Entered in college with the same mindset, still somehow passed and even graduated. Its an engineering course but i never felt proud after graduating, about to take the board exam but even if i pass that exam i don't really see myself landing a job 🤷♂️. Carefully decide things after high school guys, research vocations and find what you really want to do. Don't end up someone whos going to just wonder "wtf do i want to do with my life".
"i was complete void during work hours" holy hell how can I relate to that. I'm happy now she can do something she enjoys more, i hope so.
4:09 for the signature heart melting "hmm" and smile from Choco sensei.
You heard the sensei kids, don't follow your dreams that shit mid af when you actually get there
best decision made right there.
Choco is brilliant.
yagoo be out here finding random amazing girls like "I want to talk to you about the Hololive Initiative"
And then there's me. I avoided my dream career because everybody told me it won't be as glamorous as I imagined. In retrospect, I already knew it wasn't glamorous or "fun" but I still wanted to do it. I wasn't delusional, I tried it and actually enjoyed the hard and tedious parts. But they had me convinced I was a naive dreamer. So I went to college for a more "sensible" job.
Years later I'm still obsessed with it and struggling to get started later in life. I wasted so much time because I had the wisdom but not the confidence.
It's good to caution children about pursuing a career that seems fun on the outside, but it's also important to understand that many people really are built for their dream job.
Yo, that's actually real fucking smart.
If you think doing what you love will be fun and games only, reality will smack you in the face and beat you down. A job is a job, regardless of passion.
Going for something you hate let's you avoid unrealistic expectations.
Speaking as someone who went to college because "that's what you do after high school, isn't it?" Choco-Sensei is sharing some wisdom here.
Okay but those wings just wagging behind is so cute!!!
Choco being able to go for a job in something she hates is a sign of INCREDIBLE strength imo, as someone who doesn't have any idea for what to do because I hate the idea of doing anything. If I had Choco's mindset and will I'd be unstoppable.
Thanks for the subs!
そしてホロライブという選択をしたことが何より示唆するものがある
So Choco sensei backstory is - go to culinary school > culinary job(s) > school nurse at Underworld Academy > Hololive
Nothing to see here except Chocosen spitting straight facts
Vocational School indeed guarantees job acceptance, i finished my Welding course and just 3 days i already got a job
I learned orders of magnitude more practical skills from the military than I ever did in college. I don't think I'd be near where I am financially if I stayed in.
Damn, that is 5D chess level of thinking for Choco-sensei of why she chose Culinary School
Thats a great plot for anime cooking show.
actually it good enough to go with skills and experience more than lesson and theory.