SLX BFS (Roro CB26) / Tsurinoya Master BFS Trout Rod - BFS Fishing Brook Trout
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2022
- In this video, SLX BFS (Roro CB26) / Tsurinoya Master BFS Trout Rod - BFS Fishing Brook Trout, Hobie-Wan Kenobi goes out BFS trout fishing for brook trout with a new rod and also uses the Roro CB26 BFS spool for the Shimano Curado BFS XG, SLX BFS and Scorpion BFS.
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The Tsurinoya Master is a newer BFS rod and is supposed to be an upgrade to the Tsurinoya Ares, a longtime standard for budget BFS trout rods. I found the Tsurinoya Master to have a little more backbone and also a faster action than the Ares.
Most of the lures used are from Jackson and available at Bait Finesse Empire: baitfinesseempire.com/brand/j...
Roro CB26:
4.97gr Spool Weight
Titanium Spool Shaft
Floating Spool Design
Hobie-Wan Kenobi does a wide range of testing with the Roro CB26; Casting, pitching and flip casting a wide range of finesse lures.
Being over 3gr lighter than the Avail 21SLX15R spool and over 4gr lighter than the stock spool, some other important information is that the Roro CB26 does not require additional magnets. This allows changing back to the stock spool much faster than taking additional magnets out of the reel every time you want to change spools.
The floating design of the spool reduces weight by removing the long spool shaft Shimano reel are known for. This also reduces the need for the user to buy a micro bearing for the cast control knob for optimal performance. Only the side plate micro bearing is required (size 730) if upgrading spool bearings because the spool has a bearing attached. This also increases your bearing count of your reel by 1 because of the spool bearing.
The SLX BFS XG is a BFS finesse baitcasting reel designed to cast lighter lures such as NED Rigs, shakeyheads and other lightweight bass lures. I am going to see how viable the SLX BFS XG is for fishing in streams for trout.
A benefit of having a BFS reel is to have the ability to fish in streams accurately without having to deal with line twists and other issues spinning reels can have. The ability to engage the spool instantly and control line during the cast like with a normal baitcasting reel while using light lures allows a softer presentation and, more precise lure placement.
The Exciting Drag Sound (reel clicks when line is pulled out via drag) on the SLX BFS sounds similar to a spinning reel sound and allows the angler to know how fast a fish is running. I personally think it sound more fun than it is functional. The sound of a big bluegill ripping drag and hearing the reel go "buzzzzzzzz" is a real joy to fish.
Outside of finesse fishing, the SLX BFS XG can be used for casting and pitching Texas Rigs and other mid-weight bass lures, as well as smaller trout lures. The lightweight, shallow spool allows the minimum line required to fish and keeps the total weight of the spool low. That will allow effortless pitching which allows low trajectory and better accuracy. Keep in mind, the reel has a capacity of 8lb/50yds so long casting with 12lb fluorocarbon will not happen.
FROM SHIMANO USA (Curado BFS is pretty much the same as the SLX BFS):
The new Curado BFS (Bait Finesse System) expands the Curado lineup of low-profile reels while redefining finesse fishing for tournament anglers. Inspired by the Japanese Domestic Market (JDM), the new Curado BFS utilizes an ultralightweight shallow spool designed for thinner diameter lines to allow anglers to cast lightweight lures more effectively than traditional low-profile models. The Curado BFS incorporates Shimano's Finesse Tune Brake (FTB) system to reduce the spool's weight by moving the braking unit from the spool to the palming side-plate. The result: the spool takes minimal force to turn and allows anglers to effectively cast lightweight tackle. Unlike traditional magnetic brake systems that maintain the same drag on the spool throughout the cast, Shimano's FTB capitalizes on the cast's centrifugal force and the magnetic brakes automatically adjust to slow down the spool only when braking is needed. Fully adjustable, anglers can fine-tune the FTB with the external dial or by adding or removing individual magnets as needed. The perfect antidote for picky fish, the Curado BFS is the ideal tool for anglers to downsize baits to increase their success on the water.
Weight: 6.2oz
Bearings: 5+1
Gear Ratio: 8.2:1
Inches Per Turn (IPT): 32in
Braid/Yds:15/45
Max Drag: 8lbs
A full review series on the Shimano Curado BFS XG and Shimano SLX BFS are on my channel. I compared the two reels and doing a SLX BFS vs Curado BFS XG video as well.
I do a lot of BFS fishing and have many videos going over BFS fishing techniques, BFS reels, rods and everything else.
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What is your most recent BFS Rod?
I've got the 13Fishing Fate Black 2-10g which I believe is ok for jigs. That's paired with the Tsurinoya Dark Wold Ultra (which I haven't tried yet, still waiting for the magnets to do the upgrade). This is the "budget" combo for .. everything!?
Meanhwile, I have a Phenix Elixir custom rod in the making. That should be able to throw 0.6 - 6g. It will be paired with my 2022 Aldebaran BFS XG. Exclusive for trout.
It would be amazing if you can get the Tsurinoya Dark Wolf Ultra and do a review. That reel feels just amazing in hand and I can't wait for the magnets to come and test it next week.
I know many people like the TSU Dark Wolf for budget BFS. I do not have any plans to get the reel but, I know some people have been reviewing it on TH-cam.
I have a Shimano Cardiff NX B50ul paired with the 16 Aldebaran bfs. Love it
That rod does look pretty nice.
Mine is also the Trout Master. ;)
Great video yet again! Thanks for all the work you put in!
My pleasure! I'm glad to be able to help everyone with tackle.
Good to see you out catching some fish again
Didn't film fishing for a while. It was good to just fish without filming. Winter was brutal for river fishing too 😂
My go to was a lil 2 1/2" Rapala. First. Still got it too, my dad bought it back in the early seventies. Have it too me in 96. Caught many many fish. I've changed the hooks 4 times now. Awesome video man.
Very nice! Some of the older Rapala lures are built much better than lures today
Excellent product review! Its been to long since your last video. I was excited when this one dropped. The fishing looks like it's getting good in your area and those fish catches were stunning. Hope your doing well and enjoying the beautiful weather. Looking forward to the next one!
Weather has been terrible where I live. The fishing is doing well and I plan to make video more frequently.
@@HobieWanKenobi That stinks I was hoping you guys were finally getting some warmer weather. It's been a strange spring here in south western PA. Looking forward to your next upload.
@@arcuriotv6894 It should stay above freezing until like September now 😂.
@@HobieWanKenobi Wow! 🤯
You really have a small time period of warm weather before the cold comes back. We'll enjoy it while it lasts. PA is not as bad but it's rarely sunny and it rains so often the streams are always blown out. I Lived in Northern NM for 5 years and it was just about perferfect. Beautiful weather and amazing mountain streams and lakes.
@@arcuriotv6894 The summers are perfect here...besides the mosquitos 😂
Snaps and dont like disaseembling rods...yep me too. I didnt use sbaps for a while then switched back to them. Makes life easier and more time in the water
What a great scenery. Thanks for entertaining.
Thank you for watching. I take the scenery for granted many times. I have not uploaded a first person view video in a while.
I used to have the Tsurinoya Dexterity Baitcast in the 7'2 and I beat the crap out of it so much that it just won't break on me. I hookset over 9000 using 4lb braid to 4lb leader. The Tsurinoya Master looks very nice and with the x wrap it seems to be a very good rod. If there was an option for a longer rod I probably got one a long time ago.
I like the Dragonball Z reference 😂. This rod can handle bigger fish than the Ares. I have only used monofilament line with this rod so far.
Nice video. Thanks for sharing. The SLX BFS can be had for 132 and change at Japan lure.👍
Good to hear. The SLX BFS is such a great reel for the price.
I like the intro music in the beginning of the video.
I thought it was a nice addition to the video.
The rod i wanted to order,but it's like one piece rod, so the shipping was same as price of the rod. Instead i order Dragon with Dark Wolf Ultra. Waiting for custom clearance atm. Can't wait to try that combo!
The Jackson Kawasemi Rhapsody has a telescopic model that is a really nice rod. Collapses to less than 20". It has been my favorite BFS rod lately.
Top fishing and presentation as always,can you please tell me where I cand find that mono your have on the roro
Bait Finesse Empire and VARIVAS America if in the USA/Canada. If you are outside the USA, try Digitaka.
Another great video . Something i wouldnt mind seeing for a future video . Esterline on a bfs set . Varivas has a number of esterlines and the lemoni is meant to be the easiest to manage . Not sure if you have any interest in this for how and what you fish for but i dont think there is much on it on youtube for baitcasters ultralight style . There are lots of people out there that cant see fine fluorocarbon . Think it would be a great video to do . Then after that video , if you do it , a Braid vs Mono vs Fluorocarbon vs esterline on a bfs set up for casting distance , accuracy , mangeability and other pros and cons . If you dont want to do the esterline video , then leave esterline out and do Braid vs Mono vs Fluorocarbon . In Ultra light angling with spinning reels you can find this info . Not much at all has been done with bfs setups . We know braid outcasts Mono on a spinning reel but does it out cast Mono in BFS and on a baitcaster ? Is there a difference in tragectory between the lines ? Can one cast lower weights than the other ? You could do it diameter vs diameter or lb for lb which would be very interesting . x4 braid cuts in more than x8 braid of the same diameter . x8 braid is thinner than x4 braid . So lb for lb or diameter for diameter does x4 choke the cast due to cutting in more ? I think this would be a great and very educational video . It will come up in the youtube search for years for anyone searching the topic on baitcasting reel and in BFS . I think over time it would get many views and also get you more subcsribers which you deserve . It might be more than you want to do but its definitely a video that not only i would like to see but also many others . It doesnt have to be measured , it could be in your opinion which many people trust .
Thank you for the suggestions for fishing line videos. I agree that many people will learn the pros and cons of line for BFS reels. A lot of it though can come to personal preference.
@@HobieWanKenobi yeah i am curious about it too, especially an open water line for Aji/Horse Mackerel like Ester against those stream rock, somebody whom i know use that line but regret it since only rock fish came for his lure lol
You guys probably dont have them in the US, but here in Tasmania we have a specialty trout lure called a Tasmanian devil, which are a cobra style lure. It has always been a go to cause its the first lure my dad taught me to cast and are very effective in our lakes
I will check them out. Great part of the internet is to talk to other people about fishing.
@@HobieWanKenobi thats it mate, certainly check them out and even give em a go! They make smaller lures for rivers and whatnot too, interesting whether the brooks would like them
Will do. Always fun to try new lures
I like the monocoque butt end on that rod! Looks like the Shimano Cardiff Limited Trout Area rod.
The handle is nice. Grip is a little small in diameter but, comfortable.
@@HobieWanKenobi I'm gonna get one to add to my collection of BFS rods: Shimano, Smith, Daiwa, Tenryu, Major Craft, and Yamaga!
🤣...my collection is more than I can effectively use.
@@HobieWanKenobi same here brother, but I have to say that I have specifically chosen my rods for different applications. I usually carry another rod with me.
I noticed you have the front hook facing forward this time on the bait. I remember seeing in the comments in another video that you prefer it rear facing to reduce snags. Could you speak to this, or do a video talking in detail about your experience with different hook orientations?
I am experimenting with hooks all the time 😂. Facing forward gives better hookup but, rear facing comes through cover better.
Nice Content. Continiously. Good job. Btw:
My first trout (Most beautyfull fish in the world😜) was a browntrout on a 3g-Copper-Spinner.
„Spinner geht immer“ 😎
Awesome!!! Glad you got your first trout!!!
Great video! I just picked up a couple of these master bfs rod for trout fishing I’m about to do it a few weeks. My question to you is I’m very new to targeting native trouts in small stream. Actually I’ve never done it before but I am aware that trouts are very sensitive fish. Does the color line play a factor on whether or not they bite? Would a clear floro or mono line be a better choice?
I think people overlook how simple fish are. I use green or orange line most times I go out. I find if there is a lot of fishing pressure, clear line works better.
Great content, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Super nice video and a lot of fish! Also a nice stream in there.
This rod, Tsurinoya Master 472, is my favorite BFS rod, and it is my favorite by far! I love it casting distance of it - it casts very far as a 4,7" BFS rod. But still it's comfortable and accurate also in a short casts. Master can be cast much harder without behaving indefinitely in comparison to Ares. In my opinion Master is better than Ares in everywhere with exception of lightes use (
The Master is a good BFS rod. I agree with your conclusions comparing the Ares. I was originally going to make a video directly comparing the two rods. The video would have been way too long 😂.
@@HobieWanKenobi I have been keeping on promising for a year for doing review of this rod (Master 472). But my raw video material was too bad for trying cutting decent video of it. Much more worth for me would be to shoot pretty much everything again. But then I would loose something because it wouldn't anymore be my original review...
You provide a lot of good info on the TackleTour forums and on comments on my channel.
@@HobieWanKenobi Thanks a lot! 😊
@@HobieWanKenobi I bought the rod because I saw his detailed review on that forum.
Another great video man, got me excited to go out today to fish! My first go-to lure was and still is the Rebel Teeny Wee Crawfish, I can't get enough of them in my box and love the action they have in the water, I feel like they put out so much more vibration than your standard crankbait would. What are some final thoughts on the Buggy Spinner? I'm like you, I don't fish spinners very often at all.
Thanks. The Buggy Spinner definitely has less line twisting than other spinners I have used. The single hook helps come through grass and wood easier than I thought for a spinner. The Buggy Spinner is not to expensive either. baitfinesseempire.com/product/jackson-buggy-spinner/
I don’t know if you have any experience with megabass siglett but just from the video this seems like it has a little little more backbone might be a little better with micro Trd’s
The new Zman Micro TRDs, yes. I would throw anything bigger than that though.
great video what you recomend Tsurinoya Master our glassfin rod for twixing Light loures?
Either one would work. Really depends on if you prefer glass or carbon
How good is that net!!!
I like it a lot. I'd say the best fishing item I have got in the last few years.
That brownie with the red points on the fins! Wow! Oh btw did you see avail have made a spool for the 22 Aldebaran? No rubber o rings on the bearings or spool shaft that I can see though. Not sure how that will affect performance.
I have never seen a brown trout with that much red on the fins. Usually just a little bit. I did see there are Avail and KTF 22 Aldebaran spools now. The rubber o-rings seem to silent the spool on the cast. My Aldebaran casts noticeably quieter than other BFS reels I own.
@@HobieWanKenobi I’ve noticed that also with the 22. It’s almost silent on the cast and the retrieve. Think the avail spool will be a little noisier tbh.
@@makeorwellfictionagain3553 The Avail spool might be just because of the thinner material.
@@HobieWanKenobi true!
🔥 video gotta love trout fishing the scenery and those beautiful trout! I just uploaded some trout fishing videos they were a blast to make cannot seem to find anyone else that’s 16 and interested in fishing as much as me!!
Thanks for watching. Glad to see you are into fishing
Hobie I know you do a lot of trout fishing but what rod would you suggest for a noob just getting into the BFS world for Crappie fishing lakes only. My main lure weight is 1/16oz. Right now I have the 7ft Shimano Sensilight Light action. It seems like the lightest thing I can throw consistently is 1/8oz. And that is far to big for Crappie. When I’m not throwing something like a 1/16oz Trout Magnet I’m throwing a 1/32oz Popeye with a floater. I got into BFS because I like casting reels better than spinning gear.
The Phenix Classic BFS can do those crappie weights. I would check out an UL BFS rod if looking for super light casting. You may need a Roro aftermarket spool for your reel as well.
@@HobieWanKenobi the reel that I have right now is the Zephyr and I’ve only seen bearings for my reel. I am going to try new bearing to see if that makes any difference in the casting of 1/16oz lures. Thank you for your time.
@@rougaroux2359 Bearings will help big time for that reel. Idk why KastKing wouldn't have put micro bearing in there
If u like using snaps. U should use tactical angler clip 25#. I use works 4 me. It was made 4 trout fishing
I got some tiny ones from Jackson that are pretty nice. Even smaller, the C'ultiva ones in size #00 are super tiny
@@HobieWanKenobi I gotta check it out then. What's the # rating?
@@Plee92 I would have to double check but, definitely more than I would need
I don’t see any reviews for the master c562ul? Would it cast 2g jigs?
Yes. The Master handles light weights quite well
Where did you get that collapseable net? Super cool
Bait Finesse Empire carries a couple different types. This one I have is the Ghost series
Great video! I use the 562 a lot they are lovely rods! Had a 52cm brown on it this year which was a great fish for the stream! I've recently bought a mc finetail glass 4ft 6 and it is a bizarre rod lovely rod but its far faster than the ares or the trout master! if you get the opportunity I'd love to hear your thoughts on it! I've really enjoyed using it but it is very different to much of my glass rod experiences!
I have never used the MC finetail glass. It has been on my shortlist to get though.
@@HobieWanKenobi it's oddly crip for a glass rod I'm enjoying using it though, it's certainly got the back bone for bigger fish!
@@adamwilson7188 That's my fear, most of my fishing is for brook trout so, the backbone can be excessive. I do have areas with bigger trout but, I prefer hiking brook trout streams.
@@HobieWanKenobi I completely understand, I lost a few littler fish due to excessive power, I use it with fc to try and offset its fast action, the 4'10 may be more gradual but I've only experienced the 4'6..
@@adamwilson7188 The 4'10 was on my radar. I use mono a lot to soften trout rods. FC used to be my go to trout line but, mono has been better for me. Panfish, I prefer FC
So, this rod didn't become your most favorite? Which same type rod's you like more? Are any of those less expensive?
It isn't a bad rod, I found it to be pretty good with smaller trout. I prefer to use fiberglass rods as they have more cushion when fighting the fish. The Palms Egeria NATIVE Performance XXUL I think will be my go to small trout rod.
Im getting into BFS now that I’m retired. I have a Daiwa Steez ct sv tw 70hl reel I bought a couple years ago that I never used, can I use it for BFS stuff if you know? Its a tiny finesse type reel …
Its kinda on the border line. You can always try and see how you like it. I think its a super versatile reel
Do you have a recommendation on a bfs rod available domestically? I don't want to purchase from ali express or any overseas. Also, I'm curious as to what the lightest lure you were able to effectively throw on the stock slx bfs reel? I did pick up the dobyns sierra ultra finesse rod recently, how light of bait were you able to throw on that rod as well? Sorry for all the questions. I'm new to bfs
What size lures are you going to be casting and what size fish? The Dobyns Sierra rod is pretty nice for traditional finesse bass lures such as shakeyhead, Ned Rig and such. Bait Finesse Empire has MANY rod choices that ship from the USA that are available.
@@HobieWanKenobi thanks for the reply. I do plan to use the dobyns for ned rigs and bass type lures. I guess I more or less am asking for trout or panfish/bluegill size recommendations 1/16 oz or less
The Dobyns Sierra can cast weightless bass plastics quite well with a stock SLX BFS. SLX BFS can cast 2gr pretty nice in open water with a harder cast like for panfish. Stream fishing, I would say about 3gr but, 4gr feels better. The shorter casting of stream fishing is more challenging for a reel.
What is that neat little net you have?
Handy Pak Net Ghost Series
Has anyone tried the newer more expensive kastking on tackle warehouse? Is it or the zephyr good enough to try and see where I would use it. I don’t have any issues with spinning reels. I have a cheap zebco 6 ft glass or composite thats very whippy and parabolic. It has a pistol grip . i think a pistol grip would be good with a bfs reel
If you are talking about the KastKing Kestrel, I have used it. I have a video using it.
@@HobieWanKenobi I meant the less expensive
wow that is a sweet looking rod ! I went to Aliexpress and noticed its a butt-jointed 2 piece rod .... is that right ?
That is correct. I probably should have mentioned that 😂.
What’s your thoughts on the Shimano Cardiff rods?
I have never used them. They seem like decent rods though
Hey man! I have the Tsurinoya Clever rod and was wondering what your thoughts were with compared to this rod?
I haven't used the Clever rod. People say good things about it though
@@HobieWanKenobi I haven't caught anything on it yet but so far it feels like a great little rod. I'm waiting for my roro spool to arrive for my SLX. should be here within a couple days, then i can really get a feel for how well the rod performs. By the looks of it, the clever has quite the backbone just from what the master looks to be flexing in your video on casts. I have no real basis on that though and the camera/lens may have an effect on the action.
@@ibestevo It does bend quite a bit but, does a good job of not being sloppy
I had the clever. Sold it because I found it the tip to be too thick (1.4mm)for what I was using it for. I had a hard time loading up anything below 3g. It's a good rod for 4-5g classic trout lures though. If the tip would have been 1.2mm it would have been perfect. With the trout master I can get the lures to load much better, even the small ones.
@@OVSpr Good to hear. Glad to have a resource like videos and the comment section for all to learn from.
First go to lure was a spinnerbait
I used to lean on the spinnerbait a lot. I just got back into using them this past year.
Orange Abu spinner
What's eta on when we can order this rod from bfe.
I am not sure. Soon I hope. I will post once I get information.
It'll be a few months. We wanted to make sure Hobie had a chance to thoroughly test it out prior to putting any orders in.
@@baitfinesseempire It has been pretty good. A more crispy version of the Ares is the best way to put it.
Is that the slx 70?
This reel is the SLX BFS.
Do you have link for you next please?
Here is a link to the net I use: baitfinesseempire.com/product/handy-pak-ghost-series-insta-net/
@@HobieWanKenobi Thanks
I like videos fren..
Thank You!!! I appreciate you watching.
Are you still using this rod?
Hear and there. I have been testing rods so, it's hard to keep all my rods in a lineup 😂
@@HobieWanKenobi Bought one today. Now my only problem is when I get time to try it 🤣
@@lennelehtonen5207 Story of my life 😂
@@HobieWanKenobi 😂
$25 lure really worth it lol
Nope 😂
Where are you fishing? The sewer?
This is a creek that feeds into a bigger river.
Jackson lures very expensive
Compared to other JDM brands, Jackson is the best value. Wide variety of lures at usually lower prices than other JDM brands
I am purchasing my lures from AliExpress. I got a lot of JDM lures I hate when I lose them
@@alexdashevsky2180 I like near a lot of pike so, I feel your pain.
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My videos make all the girls excited...and I keep their attention too 😎
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