A point for the Clara lightcone, at least, is that Fall of an Aeon can't be in two places at once, so if you have two destruction core teams for whatever reason, you'll need a second cone. Also, for something like this I would consider the five star LCs f2p-friendly with an asterisk, similar to the standard characters. Someone who's f2p can have them, but may or may not. If anything, I would consider them more accessible than event cones, especially old ones like Tutorial Mission- I started playing after that was available and SW was one of my first characters, I'm still bitter I can't get it :(
Just a small thing with Fall of an Aeon: The 24 % DMG boost when breaking something is gained as soon as any break happens. It has NOT to be the unit holding the LC. This makes Aeon even better and "something irreplacable" ... even more replacable.
Other than Gep and Bron Sig, I never even considered the other lightcones. These lightcones used to be B.I.S or second best, now they are in "other options" section at best for some characters. I would argue 30 pulls. I personally only have bronya, clara, and bailu sig only bronya from shop
One thing that wasn't taken into account in this video is base stats, base stats of 5 star LC always scale higher than 4 star and as the enemies get higher health pools and deal more damage take that into consideration. At this point in the game I would not recommend using currency to get a LC in shop over pulls. Depending on your account and what you have available is different for everyone. Generally the standard 5 star LC were built for the 1.0 standard characters yet their stats are at base higher in most cases. Gallagher for instance he works incredibly well with his 4 star LC as it was made for him. I use Bailu sig on Huo Huo and it works very well as her kit is complete as it is. I use Himeko with her sig and it works perfectly for her kit,.as long as there are enemies on the field for it to be useful. I would be here all day if I was to go over everything, so feel free to ask me any questions or discuss anything and I will reply when I can.
Imo, everyone should get a copy of Bronya's LC first then always go for pulls after. You'll get spooked by these LCs when you eventually lost 50/50 on a limited LC banners anyway. Plus if you're like me, then you would also just get them passively from the standard banner. Which you'll get pulls from the shops when they resets. (Monthly store, Herta points, etc)
I asked this very question to a certain subreddit a few days ago. The concensus was 'Bronya's LC is pretty good. Himeko's is situationally useful, but otherwise there's really no reason not to go with pulls."
After the new Herta Shop Erudition LC, there's sadly not much point to Himiko's. Himiko's basically just acts as a primarily Pure Fiction stat stick, but so does the Herta LC. In practice, they are close enough that there's not much value to intentionally buying Himiko LC. Gepard's LC has good value mostly on Aventurine because you get a tonne of stacks and energy regen on Aventurine, and it helps you meet the 4K Defense benchmark with the LC's high base Defense. The +48% DEF from the LC will also be active most of the time, at least with the tempo Aventurine uses his Follow Up Attack and Ult it will 99% of the time be active. Being a DEF stat stick also means you can invest more in crit substats on Aventurine and potentially run a Crit Rate/DMG body on him.
Himeko’s lc for multiple erudition characters for pf, gepards for perservation shield units and bronya’s for herself. Himeko’s lc is best i think for f2p people struggling with PF
Something irreplaceable is for slow characters. Yunli, Clara and maybe Blade can benefit from its buff, none else, so its a niche lightcone. For these characters it will give about the same amount of buff as Aeon (irreplaceable s1, aeon s5), and the heal sometimes allows you to play without a sustain. You forget one important thing. It gives 60 more base attack, what is around 300 attack difference on my Clara. Yunlis lc is still better, but with aeon Clara deals only 91-92% of irreplaceble"s dmg. If I know it well, Yunli is about the same in this aspect.
I ended up using my saved 65 pulls to pull for jade which was worth it and ive realized if i ger it on standard banner then thats better since i dont need them all
3 copies of sleep like the dead (CRY IN A CORNER) and recently got my second copy of Bronya LC, Bronya was the character i got from the 300 selector but i dont think i really used her cause i had sparkle by that time the LC i really want is Gepard LC for aventurine
After I finally saved up enough for Bronya's LC, I proceeded to get it once from standard banner, and then once more from losing a 75/25 on LC banner. This lightcone haunts me and singlehandedly pressured me into getting Sparkle just so that I could have S2 on Bronya and S1 on Sparkle. The worst part is that although the damage bonus scales well, the energy regen scales so bad with extra impositions it doesn't actually have a difference unless the unit is getting hit a lot with S5. At least I didn't have to spend pulls on getting a good LC for my Sparkle.
3 of the LC are nice if they drop the Clara destruction one the Bronya one and Himekos LC the rest are kind of meh. Honestly all of them are not worth using the 30 pulls worth of star glitter to get from the shop better pull and get closer to pity or lucky early than waste on the LC shop. I honestly don't count any of this normal banner LC as f2p its legit whale bait as f2p will benefit a lot more to use the 30 pulls worth on a limited unite or limited LC banner.
I have clara and yanquing lc 😢 , clara one is used by xueyi since fall of aeon is with FF but yanquing one is dead since its "sleeping like dead" . I am saving for bronya one and would love to get himeko one too if i lose 25/75 ever . Also i have standard choice 300 saved up so whome should i get with it E1 bronya or Clara E0
About the Fall of an Aeon, I think you mistaken it with the Physical Relic Set. I use to think that you needed to be hit to activate the Atk increase since I primarily used it for Clara. Aeon and Physical set are synergistic for Clara since she gets both buff every time she counter.
Erudition is probably the path with the best F2P accessible lightcones The Importance of Breakfast (Free) The Day the Cosmos Fell (Free) Eternal Calculus (Free) Genius’s Repose (Gacha) Do not pick Himeko’s lightcone. The only ones you should be picking are Bronya’s LC and maybe Gepard’s LC.
Only Bronya and Yanqing Card is worth it the rest pass out. However ! Yanqing Card has limit because if you are hunter of Original LC then lose potential.
Short answer without even watching the vid: Yes the standard LC's are useless. Sure one bronya lc is good to hav, same with Himeko but that's about it. It isn't good or the best. They are just a 5* statstick. thw 30 pulls are better. I myself plan to get 50 pulls instead of saving for LCs.
I'd rather get 30 pulls instead. But that's because I got "But the battle isn't over" from standard banner already.
very lucky
A point for the Clara lightcone, at least, is that Fall of an Aeon can't be in two places at once, so if you have two destruction core teams for whatever reason, you'll need a second cone. Also, for something like this I would consider the five star LCs f2p-friendly with an asterisk, similar to the standard characters. Someone who's f2p can have them, but may or may not. If anything, I would consider them more accessible than event cones, especially old ones like Tutorial Mission- I started playing after that was available and SW was one of my first characters, I'm still bitter I can't get it :(
Just a small thing with Fall of an Aeon: The 24 % DMG boost when breaking something is gained as soon as any break happens. It has NOT to be the unit holding the LC. This makes Aeon even better and "something irreplacable" ... even more replacable.
Destruction f2p options are dogshit. I got too many destr units and not enough good LCs around. I think i will pick that Smth Irreplaceable
Other than Gep and Bron Sig, I never even considered the other lightcones. These lightcones used to be B.I.S or second best, now they are in "other options" section at best for some characters. I would argue 30 pulls. I personally only have bronya, clara, and bailu sig only bronya from shop
One thing that wasn't taken into account in this video is base stats, base stats of 5 star LC always scale higher than 4 star and as the enemies get higher health pools and deal more damage take that into consideration.
At this point in the game I would not recommend using currency to get a LC in shop over pulls.
Depending on your account and what you have available is different for everyone.
Generally the standard 5 star LC were built for the 1.0 standard characters yet their stats are at base higher in most cases.
Gallagher for instance he works incredibly well with his 4 star LC as it was made for him.
I use Bailu sig on Huo Huo and it works very well as her kit is complete as it is.
I use Himeko with her sig and it works perfectly for her kit,.as long as there are enemies on the field for it to be useful.
I would be here all day if I was to go over everything, so feel free to ask me any questions or discuss anything and I will reply when I can.
Imo, everyone should get a copy of Bronya's LC first then always go for pulls after. You'll get spooked by these LCs when you eventually lost 50/50 on a limited LC banners anyway. Plus if you're like me, then you would also just get them passively from the standard banner. Which you'll get pulls from the shops when they resets. (Monthly store, Herta points, etc)
I asked this very question to a certain subreddit a few days ago. The concensus was 'Bronya's LC is pretty good. Himeko's is situationally useful, but otherwise there's really no reason not to go with pulls."
After the new Herta Shop Erudition LC, there's sadly not much point to Himiko's. Himiko's basically just acts as a primarily Pure Fiction stat stick, but so does the Herta LC. In practice, they are close enough that there's not much value to intentionally buying Himiko LC.
Gepard's LC has good value mostly on Aventurine because you get a tonne of stacks and energy regen on Aventurine, and it helps you meet the 4K Defense benchmark with the LC's high base Defense. The +48% DEF from the LC will also be active most of the time, at least with the tempo Aventurine uses his Follow Up Attack and Ult it will 99% of the time be active. Being a DEF stat stick also means you can invest more in crit substats on Aventurine and potentially run a Crit Rate/DMG body on him.
Himeko’s lc for multiple erudition characters for pf, gepards for perservation shield units and bronya’s for herself. Himeko’s lc is best i think for f2p people struggling with PF
and Claras destruction one is great to have if it drops form the normal banner extra pulls for people that don't pull on the limited destruction LCs
Something irreplaceable is for slow characters. Yunli, Clara and maybe Blade can benefit from its buff, none else, so its a niche lightcone. For these characters it will give about the same amount of buff as Aeon (irreplaceable s1, aeon s5), and the heal sometimes allows you to play without a sustain. You forget one important thing. It gives 60 more base attack, what is around 300 attack difference on my Clara. Yunlis lc is still better, but with aeon Clara deals only 91-92% of irreplaceble"s dmg. If I know it well, Yunli is about the same in this aspect.
I ended up using my saved 65 pulls to pull for jade which was worth it and ive realized if i ger it on standard banner then thats better since i dont need them all
3 copies of sleep like the dead (CRY IN A CORNER)
and recently got my second copy of Bronya LC, Bronya was the character i got from the 300 selector but i dont think i really used her cause i had sparkle by that time
the LC i really want is Gepard LC for aventurine
Pull 1 copy of bronya lightcone. Now the rest permanently gets put towards pulls
After I finally saved up enough for Bronya's LC, I proceeded to get it once from standard banner, and then once more from losing a 75/25 on LC banner. This lightcone haunts me and singlehandedly pressured me into getting Sparkle just so that I could have S2 on Bronya and S1 on Sparkle. The worst part is that although the damage bonus scales well, the energy regen scales so bad with extra impositions it doesn't actually have a difference unless the unit is getting hit a lot with S5. At least I didn't have to spend pulls on getting a good LC for my Sparkle.
3 of the LC are nice if they drop the Clara destruction one the Bronya one and Himekos LC the rest are kind of meh. Honestly all of them are not worth using the 30 pulls worth of star glitter to get from the shop better pull and get closer to pity or lucky early than waste on the LC shop. I honestly don't count any of this normal banner LC as f2p its legit whale bait as f2p will benefit a lot more to use the 30 pulls worth on a limited unite or limited LC banner.
30 pulls is halfway there to guarantee a limited 5 star. I don't think the LC's are worth it besides maybe Bronya's.
I have clara and yanquing lc 😢 , clara one is used by xueyi since fall of aeon is with FF but yanquing one is dead since its "sleeping like dead" .
I am saving for bronya one and would love to get himeko one too if i lose 25/75 ever .
Also i have standard choice 300 saved up so whome should i get with it E1 bronya or Clara E0
I somehow got naturally an S4 In the name of the Word..... pain
About the Fall of an Aeon, I think you mistaken it with the Physical Relic Set. I use to think that you needed to be hit to activate the Atk increase since I primarily used it for Clara. Aeon and Physical set are synergistic for Clara since she gets both buff every time she counter.
i literally got 2 time waits for no one from the standard banner 😭
I'm using Bronya's LC for Sparkle. Still worth it tho.
Back when i was going for her originally that was also my plan not a bad option for sure
I would love a Bronya lc for my Robin for I can get Robin e1
Maybe himeko for the lack of good eurditoon ligthcones
Erudition is probably the path with the best F2P accessible lightcones
The Importance of Breakfast (Free)
The Day the Cosmos Fell (Free)
Eternal Calculus (Free)
Genius’s Repose (Gacha)
Do not pick Himeko’s lightcone.
The only ones you should be picking are Bronya’s LC and maybe Gepard’s LC.
Only Bronya and Yanqing Card is worth it the rest pass out.
However ! Yanqing Card has limit because if you are hunter of Original LC then lose potential.
5:59 You mistook the lc for the boxing set
THATS what it was I was so confused I blame Clara
I mean, they were never worth it, lol.
Short answer without even watching the vid: Yes the standard LC's are useless. Sure one bronya lc is good to hav, same with Himeko but that's about it. It isn't good or the best. They are just a 5* statstick. thw 30 pulls are better. I myself plan to get 50 pulls instead of saving for LCs.