samsung soundbar sound+ ms650 review - also test audio - all-in-one sound bar
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- Full review and overview of the Samsung Sound+ hw-ms650 soundbar.
These are my personal and honest impressions (review) of the Samsung MS650 All in One Smart Sound bar. It is not meant to be a technical analysis but a look for the average joe consumer point of view.
This is the little brother to the Samsung MS750 and big brother to the Samsung ms550. On paper it offers the best value unless you want to pay £300 more for basically two upwards firing drivers.
I bought the ms550 and did not like that one at all. I was hoping the Samsung ms650 would be more balanced with the mids that were missing from the ms550. I was pleased to find it was a big improvement on my ms550.
If you can spare 30 minutes I will take you thought all my thoughts and show you all aspects of the 650. If you dont have that time to spare I sum up my opinions in the first 4 minutes :)
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btw this review also applies to the ms6500 which is the curved black version of the sound bar, the ms651 which is the silver straight samsung soundbar, the ms6501 which is the curved silver version of the sound+ soundbar.
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Awesome review , honestly one of the best reviews , knowledge , and breakdown of a product I’ve ever watched for any product (I watch A LOT of reviews) I find everyone always leaves me with just a couple details overlooked but man you nailed it ..
wow! ok, i'll take that, thanks :)
I agree. He nailed it regarding the Smart Mode. I do actually like it for movies, but prefer Standard for music. In both cases, you can (and I did) adjust the EQ to your liking via the MultiRoom app.
One of the best reviews I have ever seen. Knowledgeable, smart, clear, comprehensive, detailed excellent visual aids and well produced and executed. You really deserve a huge audience! Thank you!
thank you very much! 😊😂
I'm glad I found your review, unlike others... yours is more in-depth! KEEP IT UP! This is really helpful!
thank you :)
Hi Alan- firstly- wow what a fantastic presentation and review! I have been struggling to find a decent review for this soundbar for ages and you have put together one of the best and most comprehensive reviews for any product I have ever read. I bought this soundbar a few weeks ago on sale for 399 euros and am quite happy with it although, as you mentioned, like nearly every soundbar, it does not provide a truly enveloping 360 degree surround experience. What it does do tho it does incredibly well- and for the price I guess it should do that. I had a few remaining unanswered questions I'll ask in another post. Again- congratulations and thank you for such an amazing review of this product!
wow, thats the best compliment i have had! one for the archive :) ask away if you have a question, i will help if i can. tx.
You are welcome Alan- again super job on the video you review blows away any of the so-called experts I have found online reviewing this soundbar.
NIce comprehensive review, man. Your video convinced me.
This is the best review of the HW-MS650 on YT. Good job!
thank you :)
I agree with Chad H, such an awesome review. I watch lots of TH-cam review videos of speakers, and yours was the best. Lots of details about settings, features and benefits, thanks so much!
thanks very much, all compliments greatly accepted :)
How does it compares to LG SJ8 soundbar?
If I get the rear speakers do I just leave it in standard mode? And does this do DD +?
Excellent review I have just bought the same , the sounds is good and is not in you face it just enhances the overall experience which is what you want for watching a variety of programs.
Good review keep them coming Alan.
wish i could but its a bit expensive trying out these soundbars.
i got this it's a brilliant sound I can now hear the voices in movies Yay!!!!! I can now listen to tv without having to turn the tv up so high the louder sound effects drowning the voices out, your review is spot on for me Alan cheers.
excellent!
Thanks for the great review,speech clarity is something im looking for.The current price is quite good for this soundbar.
yes ive seen some good deals, at the right price its a bargain.
Hi, what Samsung subwoofer is compatible with this sound bar MS650?
I got one today and had it in front of the TV feet as designed (it doesn't fit over them on my 8500 model). The sound was BASS light so I placed it under the cabinet which has room for thus it made the BASS connect best with my wooden floor. It was better but then I found 2 settings in TV Sound which changed it lots. Select HTS not PCM and LINE not RF and these totally opened up all the BASS to sound like a SUB was in it!!!
I used the Optical Cable rather than WiFi to TV as that's better for timing. I then altered the Delay Time to 0 due to this and it synced perfect ;) I am now going for the 9000S WiFi Rear Speakers too! It really does not need the SUB if it's on your floor. I don't even need the BASS LEVEL above 0 either to get all it needs for music.
Plus making the above Settiings vastly made it louder and this is really LOUD with no distortion! Regular TV watching is ample at 32/100.
I don’t see HTS on my q7fn 2018 tv. Connected with HDMI and WiFi. Actually once there was an error and somehow I got it to play through both tv speakers and Soundbar at the same time. It sounded amazing but I can not do that any more
Great review Alan, very detailed and really helped to make my mind up. I just bought the soundbar from a hifi store on eBay. £230 open box unused. Looking like a bargain. Thanks again, Adam.
thats a stonking price 👍👍
have you tried this against the yamaha yas-207 or the likes? :)
Awesome review. Nice comparisons between different sound modes!
thank you :)
Thanks for the in depth review, its very helpful.
One point to mention, the 7 band equaliser is available on the soundbar itself by holding the sound setup button (button directly beneath the power button) for approx 5 secs.
thanks, didnt know that. dont have the soundbar any more though.
Yes I saw you sold it but perhaps useful for others.
What do you use currently?
@@pl2514 have the yas 107 which i use both with and without a sub, for me its decent enough, cant go too loud because of neighbour issues.
Great review. Is the "Alarm" function on the App works well? I am so used to Sonos speakers with Alarm function, wake up to my favourite tune. Unable to test it in store without WiFi & the Apps, hope to hear from you. Thanks.
sorry i dont have this any more. I sold it on as i wanted to try out more soundbars in the future.
Fantastic review - thank you. If I’m listening through Bluetooth am I just getting stereo or can I still get all 3 channels?
hi, bluetooth is stereo only.
Hi there, great review. I have just ordered this soundbar and i need some info that I cannot find anywhere. Im looking to connect the TV to the sound bar via HDMI ARC with the Xbox one connected to it via optical cable, if I do this will I still be able to choose between hdmi-arc and digital in? Or by having hdmi arc activated will this remove the option to switch the source to digital in on the soundbar? Thanks
in theory this should be fine but in practice things often dont work out :) I dont have this any more to test, sorry.
Great review, very thorough. Any idea if a non-Samsung Bluetooth sub would possibly connect with this?
nope, you can only use samsungs own with own dongle.
Great review. I really like it especially the integrated subwoofer. Stereo sounds in my opinion fine. In 5.1 mode it sounds not good.
It does have night mode as such......its called DRC (Dynamic Range Control)
Lets you apply dynamic range control to Dolby Digital tracks. If you press and hold the
SOUND MODE button while in standby mode, DRC (Dynamic Range Control) turns on
or off. With the DRC turned on, loud sound is reduced. That way it allows me to have great full sounds including Bass at low volume, while family is sleeping.
yes you are right, i totally missed that!!!!!!!!! duh! thanks.
Thank youu this is a great review)
thanks 😜
ASMUSICTop review, has greatly help me make the correct choice of soundbar. Well done Alan, most refreshing.
thanks for that :)
Question (by the way great review). This soundbar or Lg SJ 8 ?
sorry i havent heard the lg in person.
Did you say your favorite sound setting is the dedicated Surround? or Standard which selected from the sound mode button???
for a leave and forget setting yes standard mode via sound mode i prefer. After a while in other modes i start hearing the extra processing.
Alan Ross Reviews - That's great advice, great video thanks.
thank you :)
Hi Alan, thank for your clear and deep review of this soundbar. I've been looking for many soundbar from all the available brands, mostly with external sub, but none of those convinced me 100% for different reasons and specs. Then I discovered this one and among all of them, it's the one that better convince me over all the others I found. I would like to buy it to replace my 10 years old Harman/Kardon HS200 2.1 system, want something more compact with no floor stand speakers but without giving up on quality. The thing that worry me is the low freq: my Harman has a 10 inches external wall-shaking sub but sometimes it's really too much, even if you lower it from it's own knob. On the most frantic, chaotic and noisy action movie scenes, I have to lower down all the system from the remote because all that bass is quite annoying to ears but this translate into a "dirty", muffled, too "mixed in" dialogue during those scenes, with some difficult on understanding some words due to bass prevailing on all audio spectrum. So now my question is: does the soundbar has enough bass to give dynamic and enhance action-packed scenes without being too overwhelming and create a pleasant atmosphere during quieter scenes (like cinema, where the bass is always present but never prevail) or anyway will I miss my 10" sub ? Hope I explained well, thank you !
as you are sued to a sub you may find deep bass missing. However it does have a huge punch for what it is, enough for you to feel and enough to be overwhelming in a smallish room. So yes for a soundbar without a separate sub this does a good job and does have some lower bass. The fact that you have a dedicated center speaker means you wont lose dialogue in dedicated surround tracks. Also maybe consider the yamaha yas 107 and add your own say 8 inch sub to that. Its a route i ended up going. However the ms650 is a better soundbar hands down, you just have less option to tailor that bass because you can only add the samsungs own wireess sub if you wanted. Although sounds like huge bass slam isnt what you actually want.
Thanks so much for your fast reply. I like bass and deepness in sound but not when it's too much to overwhelm and cover other freqs and dialogues. I was considering Yamaha Yas 207 but is has a well known issue with the external sub crossover that cuts at 180 Hz making deeper dialogue and male voices "bounce" in alternante from soundbar to sub, to sub from soundbar and so on depending on the freqs, giving an uncomfortable feeling of course. Another question is, and that's my last: is Surround Mode, that has an own button, ANOTHER sound mode, independent from others or can it be added, "paired" with Standard, Music, Clear Voice ? For example, if I'm using Standard mode (you mentioned it's the best), can I turn on Surround Mode to work together ? Or is Surround Mode excluding and turning off all the others ? I'm asking because you talked about Standard Surround
i was was saying the 107 not 207, adding your own sub avoids that issue. The surround button turns on processing for adding extra depth and dimension. The standard setting in the mode selection is the only mode giving the original track with no extra processing.
love the turn at 2 secs in .....
3 hours of practice makes it look easy......😝
Alan have you tested the Samsung HW-N650 Cinematic Wireless Soundbar vs the MS650 just wondered how it compared ?
no i havent, sorry.
you need to get Samsung to send you one although tbh I have no idea how these other TH-camr's get them to do it having to buy everything you review must cost a fortune :( I am really enjoying your videos keep up the good work.
@@musicmate70 thanks for that. For the most part these are things im buying for myself anyway. A lot of stuff i send back or ebay. Yeah i need to be a much bigger channel to get anything for free. Then you have the problem of being restricted in what you can say. I never did any more soundbars as ive been happy with the yas 107 but i think i will try some more soon. Thanks for the cooments, appreciated 👍
How does this compare to the Yas-107 or 109 in terms of voice clarity?
its a superior soundbar. the yas options are more about the ability to add third party subwoofers.
Alan.... at 10:58 ...does it come with the appropriate cable to power TV also??? ...because I don'#t know what kind of cable that is????????
yes it comes with a power cord.
@@alanrossreviews do you mean x2 power cords?? X1 for the soundbar to mains, and x1 for soundbar to TV?
@@pauljen7587 i cord for the soundbar
Great sound bar. It is larger than I thought it’s be, but sounds good. At price of $247 on eBay and the sub is available at Best Buy for $226, it is a great bargain/value when compared to Sonos and Bose.
Great review !
thanks for that :)
How does this compare to the Yamaha YAS-207? thanks
sorry not heard that one.
Please if you come across that model, let me know. Its one of the first with DTS:X, I like your honest reviews!! thank you
If its the same Yahmaha at Costco, mine died on me in less than a week.
Alan do these Soundbars cost a lot to run... electricity wise?
well flat out this draws 450 watts, like a mid sized pc, its nothing too bad.
Great job on the review Alan. Appreciate it.
I just got the ms750 (which is identical to the ms650 except for 2 top firing speakers) after trying out the Samsung q70 and for me the 750 blows it away. To the point, the Q70 sounded like walkie talkies by comparison. Willing to forgo the lack of punch from the sub. However, going from a 7.2 to this is kind of leaving me wanting just a little more thump. I am using it in my trailer eventually so space is a premium. Samsung told me that I could only use their $500 sub with the 750. To much $ and way too big for me. Then I saw your remark about kanto sub you used on the ms650. May I ask.... how you used the kanto with the ms750?
no you cant use that sub with the ms650 im afraid, i was talking about the kanto with the yas 107
I subscribed just because of the back turn
haha! any reason is ok by me 😜
Same
Are you going to do a review on the JBL Clip 3, Go 2 or Xtreme 2 when they come out?
Hi, i dont really plan anything as such, i just review what i buy. I wouldnt be looking at the clip or go but yes, the xtreme is something i would likely buy. Im kinda more excited for a charge 4 to come along though :)
Alan Ross Reviews Yeah okay I was just wondering
Thanks so much Alan.... awesome job on the review! I just yesterday purchased a MS650 and your review has definitely clarified a lot of the questions I had regarding sound settings etc. I too have ended up feeling that Standard mode is my preference for most sources. I still remain a bit confused at to what the difference between Standard and Surround plus Standard is. In the straight Standard mode, when a 5.1 source signal is being played, is it then decoded to 3.1, or does it revert to stereo output? Would I need to have surround and Standard on to get a 3.1 output? Thanks again for this very detailed, thorough and easy to understand review!
Hi. so there is no surround plus standard. This got me to at first. The surround button is another sound mode just like those actually listed under sound modes. This is why you can never have that plus one of the sound modes as they are all different modes. If you are in standard mode and hit surround you will see it is actually off. So it seems the surround button mode simply uses all 9 speakers to maximise the feeling of depth and space. Standard mode unlike all other modes does no extra processing. It plays the track exactly as it was encoded. So for example a 5.1 track now becomes 3.0. But if the track was straight stereo 2.0, it would remain as such and the centre speaker is unused, thats my understanding anyway. however you look at it standard has the least processing of all the modes. In surround mode a 2.0 track is still played using all speakers including the centre. You might think this would be best, but of course it is also un-natural on terms of the original track. perosnally i always ended up hearing this processing rather than just listening to the tracks.
Now of course this is a 3.0 speaker. if you add the sub it then becomes 3.1. So a 5.1 will become a 3.0, not 3.1, in standard mode. The point also is that no other processing will go on. In surround the soundbar will try to improve on the original recording by trying to improve depth and space that were not in the original recording.
Hope that makes sense :)
Thank you for the quick and informative reply! Definitely cleared up my question and misunderstanding! Thanks to your review and follow-up reply, maybe I'll be able to just sit back and enjoy listening to the Ms650, instead of obsessing over the settings! LOL
no no. obsessing over settings is one of the joys of tech, dont give up on that :)
Curt Ammerman Hi there. I see you have bought one of these sound bars, I just need some info as I have just ordered this soundbar. Im looking to connect the TV to the sound bar via HDMI ARC with the Xbox one connected to it via optical cable, if I do this will I still be able to choose between hdmi-arc and digital in source? Or by having hdmi arc activated will this remove the option to switch the source to digital in on the soundbar? Thanks
great review thank you I have a quick follow up re the surround functionality. if a source or tv channel is in prologic 5.1 or even dts 5.1 will this decode that audio stream into the separate channels and output them to the 3 fronts in the soundbar and the rears which I'm also getting in a bundle. So that I will get surround sound from the bar and rears combo?
1. On the soundbar there appears to be 3 small tweeters and 6 oblong larger drivers- in Surround+Standard mode in 3.0 (left,right,center) which exact speakers are handling the dialog (voices) only? 2. By adding the optional wireless subwoofer, are more drivers/tweeters then used to handle the dialog on the actual soundbar while the bass and low end is redirected to the sub- thus improving the quality of voices/dialog thru the soundbar?...in other words, if the MS650 is paired with the sub, what are Samsung doing?....are they crossing over the bass from the built in drivers on the soundbar to the subwoofer or do they all play in unison? 3. On the right hand side just above the display there is a small led light- and there appears to be one on the left hand side too- but the one on the left never light up on my soundbar- what is it for?
my understanding is that in standard mode it produces the exact original track. So if the original track is say 5.1 then it becomes 3.0 with only the center tweeter and woofers used for speech. In all other modes they use their own processing using all speakers to produce the desired result, with only standard remaining true to the original track. If you add the sub it is rated at 27Hz~120Hz. I can only presume everything below 120hz gets handed to the subwoofer, 120hz-600hz to the sounbar woofers and 600-20000hz to the tweeters. Good question though. i dont have the soundbar with me right now so i will have to get back to you re the leds.
Thanks Alan for the detailed reply- really appreciate that. I asked the question re the sub as I don't really need more bass, but by adding the sub if it would improve the voices/dialog coming from the soundbar, I may consider adding the sub later (if it drops in price!). The dialog is already better than most soundbars but I have found it a little muffled and hard to hear on 1 or 2 movies- most are fine tho. Might be just my ears or my particular room set up, but I find the Smart mode best for movie watching- I rarely play it louder than '14' setting tho which may explain it.
i guess its possible, the soundbar woofers will be handling the lower range of speech without having to go below 120hz so in theory it should improve it, but enough to notice? enough to warrant that extra £500?? maybe try the av forums where someone is bound to have that setup. Seems to me smart mode makes it more dynamic, goes louder, but i found speech easiest to hear on standard with treble at +6. We all have different ears though, the funny thing is neither of us picked clear voice for better speech. :)
I'll try your recommended settings again of Surround and Standard with Treble set at +6 (missed the treble part) and see how i get on. Yes, I don't really want to drop money on the subwoofer- I think spending that kind of money, regardless of how good the sub is, doesn't really make sense as we are into separate a/v receiver + 5.1 speaker price territory then.
Excellent review i might buy one of these soon
its a nice soundbar, just bear in mind it doesnt support atmos as other newer rivals do.
Ok i dont think i would use atmos much just after decent sound for tv viewing few movies and music so this should be fine for my needs?
its a really nice soundbar and you can get some great deals if you shop around.
yes will sound great.
Hello... can I connect the SWA-W700 to the MS650???
yes :)
Ops sorry... I just saw that in the minute 6:02 .... Now what about the dongle you need? really need a dongle to connect the subwoofer to the ms650???
it will come with the subwoofer, for the wireless connection between the units.
Hy Alan, I will like to know if is compatible with my Panasonic Tx - 50AS650E
or wich 1 u can recommend for my tv
yes it will work several ways including with the arc which i think your tv has?
the arc mean ???
audio return channel via hdmi. lets you just connect one hdmi between tv and soundbar and have two way communication with all other hdmi connected devices.
Does the MS650 produce a better 3D sound than the Yamaha yas 107?
I.e.. can you hear explosions to the left or right.... helicopter sounds going right acroos the soundbar etc..?
Also.. is the MS650 any good for music?
none of them are any good with music. the 650 is better than the 107 but the ms750 i tried was leaps ahead of them both. ms650 can be had for near same as 107 i see which makes the 650 by far the better option IFFF you are not lookign to add a third party subwoofer.
@@alanrossreviews can the 650 produce better 3D sound tho?
How good is the Sonos beam? Ever tried that?
Incredible Review thanks a lot x1000
thank you 😜
Hi Alan. I don't know if you've still got the MS650, but i was wondering if you could answer a question about the middle most speaker (centre tweeter?). On mine, in standard mode, the one in the middle is completely off/disabled, no sound, but in surround mode its in use. Is it supposed to be disabled in standard mode? Cant find any information when googling it, so it's probably supposed to be this way. I just want to be sure its not faulty.
Good review btw! 🙂
no it should be the original track. so if you are listening to a stereo track the centre will be dead, but if you listen to a surround sound track it will use the centre speak.
Thanks! I'll try and find a surround track.
your welcome :) im the channel that keeps on giving 👍😂
It works, thanks again! My computer only recognized the soundbar as a 2.0 stereo setup, but still after testing a surround track the three centre speakers are working 👍
if you want the centre working in stereo just another surround mode btw, but you probably know that.
Great review
thank you 👍😜
thanks I want a good stereo sound and nothing else, a subwoofer is not compatible with my neighbours so this one seems right for me I need good sound at low volume for evening-night
also consider the yas 107 then if you want less bass but still decent stereo.
wonderful review
many thanks :)
I tested this in Best Buy and it is the best sounding affordable soundbar without the extra floor subwoofer. I live in an apartment so I cant have a sub that will shake & rattle my floors and walls. This is the perfect choice for me. Bose 700 was the best but it came with an enormous $800 price tag, over twice the amount of the Samsung.
Note no 4k passthrough though.
Alan? Just ordered this....can you have a separate Subwoofer on this? (mine is a wharfedale sw150)
it has to be the samsung owns wireless subwoofer.
@@alanrossreviews Thanks Alan.
Well finally got this soundbar and blown away by the sound it's amazing! Just one issue though....when i turn the soundbar off the sound reverts to tv speakers and i then have to enable the Soundbar again in order to listen to sound through the Soundbar......is this normal or faulty?
@@Mrmagpie220 are you saying turning the tv on doesnt turn on the soundbar? are you using arc?
@@alanrossreviews yes using ARC alan it's when i turn the soundbar off it somehow resets the sound to TV speakers and then I have manually enable the Soundbar.My TV is a Panasonic dx750
What's the best connection? Wifi, BT, HDMI or Optical?
Hdmi
Is this bar quite a bit better than the Yas 108/109?
yes assuming you dont add a subwoofer to the yas.
Alan Ross thanks also Do you think this might rattle too much on a glass top tv stand?
going to order the ms750 tomorrow thanks for the help yesterday. did they ever fix the auto shutoff problem with these that would drive me mad
not sure about that. i hope you will love the ms750 even though it wont do atmos, compared to the ms650 and ms550 its so much wider and sweeter in sound.
@@alanrossreviews that is the 1 thing i am worried about but would atmos really shine on a soundbar anyway, i have plenty of mivies with dts 5.1 and dts hd ma 5.1 but would you really notice the difference in dts and dtshd ma on a soundbar?? if you would then i might just look for a soundbar that supports more
@@DrLoomis666 well depends on how many speakers it is outputting from. So its different between just decoding atmos and then using a 5.1 setup to some soundbars actually using multiple arrays with dedicated spatial speakers. So I think it depends on what the soundbar ends up doing with the decoding. In your case you can decode on the pc anyway so it doesnt matter but if you was bitstreaming it would be an issue that you couldnt decode it.
@@alanrossreviews yeah i installed k lite codec pack on pc along with madvr and its the best player i have ever used much better than the kodi player, i have put lots of movies on that have 5.1 dolby digital and also dolby atmos or dtsx tracks also and switching from the 5.1 dolby digital to the atmos or dtsx on the fly i can hear the audio sounds a lot heavier and fuller and that is coming from the tvs own cheap speakers and when i tested on the edifier it wad the same the audio sounds much heavier even on speakers that cant play atmos or hd audio so i was hoping the ms750 would be the same. i could get the samsung 850 i heard atmos is amazing on that but non atmos tracks not so much.
@@DrLoomis666 yeah its gonna sound fuller because it has that much more information. atmos has all that spatial information so even if you dont have full atmos its being handed over to whatever speakers you have after decoding. i guess its a case of how much do you want to spend :) that 850 has 13 drivers to spread the surround. youve given up on bookshelf speakers then?
Alan! I got the swa w700, it’s amazing, I highly recommend.
i might be go back to this soundbar, its half the original price now.
Alan Ross Reviews the sub is a bit of a nightmare to pick up at a decent price. Went down to £249 back in 2018 now it’s £450, I had to get it from Germany in the end. Does seem worth it though
@@alanrossreviews Do you still recommend it? I was considering buying some of those "atmos" soundbars but I just cant simply justify the price.
@@titone14 well thats the thing, atmos gives more future support. if you can live without that then the ms650 is a fine bar and well priced now. but the ms750 had a much wider immersion when i listened to that.
Hello mate. I've just watched all 3 reviews you've done for the Yamaha Yas-107, Samsung HW MS-550 & the MS-560, but am very confused about which one to go for. I love the way you're so in depth with your reviews, and it seems like you really know what good sound sounds like, so I was wondering which of the 3 you would recommend. I do like the sound of bass, a nice warm rumble, bass that makes you smile when you hear it! But obviously overall sound is what I'm after. Cheers pal.
the answer is how far you gonna go with the system. if you intend to add nothing afterwards the ms650 is the best option (the ms750 even nicer). if you are just adding a subwoofer the yas 107 allow you to add any sub whereas the ms650 needs the wireless samsung sub. but you also have the option of wireless rear subs for the samsung. so if you will add just a sub the yas 107 allows the best upgrade path. but only under those circumstances 👍😜
@@alanrossreviews Appreciate the rapid reply. You're as good as responding as you are reviewing! Ha. I've actually got a dedicated 7.1 surround system but it's far too powerful for late evening use, which is why I'm looking at a soundbar. Was actually just trying to find out about the sound from each soundbar alone, without an additional sub. Would you lean more towards the Yamaha or 1 of the Samsung's?
@@Its_A_London_Thing if thats the issue the yas107 in clear voice mode is a better option. you can also set limited dynamic range.
@@alanrossreviews Sweet. And it's the cheapest of the 3! Cheers Alan mate. Happy days!! 😎
Hello,Alan!...I'm from Romania and i buy this soundbar for your presentation...Thank You!...All regards!
thank you, hope you love it 👍😏😜
@@alanrossreviews It's all I want!... for present time...Thank you,once again!...your work is fantastic!
Rico Venturico 👍😍
kann man auch einen Woofer Anschießen, hat Samsung den Passaden dafür?
you can use their wireless subwoofer
If I were to mount this, I'm afraid that its would vibrate to much and come out of the wall
nope
Where can I down load the app?
app store.
@@alanrossreviews thanks 🇬🇧
Great review and ordered. Did you ever get the extra sub?
I used it with a little kanto sub, even that little thing takes it to the next level.
@@alanrossreviews How did you hook up the sub?? There is no subwoofer out, and the wireless option is supposed to only work with the $500 (yikes!) Samsung sub. Do you have a workaround?
@@ThePdxster i must have thought i was replying to the yas107 video 😤
@@alanrossreviews Oh bummer! I hate that all these manufacturers are making their wireless subs proprietary. Give me an old fashioned sub out jack any day!
does this decode dts 5.1 or only 2.0 i head it can only do 2.0
who told you that? right in the specs on Samsungs own page says:
decoding:
DTS Digital Surround
DTS 5.1 ch
i know i just seen a big discussion over on the av forums where a lot of people were saying otherwise so i just wanted to ask you to be sure. do you mind if i ask you what would be better , this soundbar or a pair of bookshelf speakers like the klipsch r-15m speakers
The Boogeyman on a forum buddy theres an official Samsung website you know
Thanks for the review man, I wonder how this stacks up to the new n650... **wink wink**
wink win! i hear yer! 😛
Hi, did he do review on N650
The Scorch Trials?
yup!
hello alan, you should do a review of the yamaha yas 207 when you can and compare them, the world is really waiting , thanks and greetings from galicia.
ha! but the 207 has a fundamental problem with speech crossing over onto the sub, so for me it can never be a good option.
@@alanrossreviews thanks for the quick response, I was in doubt and from so much reading reviews I was hesitant, greetings.
@@hectorhtp8157 greetings 😀
Got my hw-ms661(the one you review, 661 indicates silver 660 black and the ms-6500 is the curved). I got mine for about £350 on sale, with free 12 months tidal hifi and free wireless rear speakers from samsung campaign. Overall very satisfied with that deal. Bought the samsung one mount kit too.
blimey, there are some great deals out there, somebody else told me they got the same package for £200 with a samsung tv.
That's insane, considering the soundbar itself was £600 and done great in all tests I've read this far. Nothing short of a great deal to get this one when its on sale for sure. I live in Norway, so I guess the campaigns vary from country to country.
indeed! how does it sound with the rear speakers?
you can adjust the volumes on them as well, they werent that present during netflix watching so I played some SACD/surround music to test and there they were very present. I think the surround from them are good, but I have to play around with settings to find how well they will integrate with movie watching.
i brought a hisense tv from hughes online and got this soundbar thrown in for £255 with cashback via samsung
would a soundbar like this be better than the edifier bookshelf speakers
two different products,a soundbar is decoding a surround track and doing clever things to give an impression of surround, your bookshelf speakers will sound better with music but you cant feed it a surround track. if you are happy with decent stereo and feeding via a receiver then go for it.
i play all my media from a pc connected to tv using media player classic all my files are ripped from bluray and all have hd audio tracks but i was just wondering in general would the speakers sound better or the soundbar. dont care for surround sound but i was wondering would the speakers sound better playing the movies as 2.0 stereo or the bar playing them at 5.1 dolby or 5.1 dts. just the sound in general, thanks for the reply
@@DrLoomis666 in general dedicated stereo speakers will sound better but soundbars are tuned for a cinema like experience.
@@alanrossreviews what would you go for yourself the edifier speakers or the ms750 soundbar, edifier speakers are 130 on amazon the ms750 is 499 on amazon,
@@DrLoomis666 me id go ms750, i heard and its great. but your setup might not get the best out of it. how will you connect to the soundbar? hdmi? optical?
Just got it for 160$. Bass is definitely lacking and sometimes it felt like it wasn’t much difference between the Soundbar and my qled built in speakers but for the price that I got it for it’s good.
sounds like something not quite right if the bass was hardly better than built in speakers.
Alan Ross Reviews thank you for replying)
I mean it is better, sounds the same as the one I tested in the store. But of course the bass is nowhere near close to any Soundbar that has a separate subwoofer, as r650, for example, that I also tested in the store. I’m thinking about getting Sony HT-S700RF, although it costs almost 4 times more, not sure if I should.
The Samsung does sound good, but it would sound so much better with a separate subwoofer. I tried both optical, Bluetooth and HDMI connections. One thing I find weird is that Dolby digital + is not available. As much as I know the Soundbar supports it
Alan Ross Reviews currently listening to asap rocky lsd and they sound almost exactly identical. Same TH-cam video playing on the TV in the native TH-cam app and streaming it from my iPhone to the Soundbar via Bluetooth. They sound almost the same. Literally.
I wonder what inside the Samsung right now... since they own JBL...
yeah they own a bunch of brands but i think they all run seperately?
Is this man a Kevin Keegan tribute act?
Have you seen Kevin keagan lately?
Great review .... a little long ;) but it's easy with TH-cam to skip along less interesting bits , this is the only review to show the LCD screen and how it works EXCEPT for the Volume level you did not show if it has that like the 450 & 550 models have .....I have a HW-K550 and want to give it to an elderly Auntie who has the worst tinny sounding new TV and get the 650 when on special. I love the LCD display this being on the right side is ok it's only the volume levels I don't want to lose them. Those questions about the "Surround Button" I think it's really for those folks (with too much $$) who have added the extra speakers !!
yeah my videos are on the long side, i just want to get the information out, i know its not really youtube friendly :)
yes you do get the volume level come up in terms of 1-99. Thanks for the feedback!
THANKS Alan for this review I've watched it a few times, Ebay had a 20% sale and I bought the HW-MS650 your review tipped the scales in it's favour, hope Samsung at least send you samples for your effort. it is an improvement over the 550 and I gave my 550 to my Aunt and she is very happy with her improved TV quality and wishes she had got one years ago :) so thanks again from David
thanks for the followup glad it worked out. Nope, no feebies, im nowhere near a big enough channel for these companies to support me :(
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I like the hw-mm55 it sounds terrific and no problem whatsoever and you guys are doing something wrong
yes that must be the explanation :)
It almost looks like you're dancing there the video..
i wish i could dance but i cant :)
I hate poor audio. And if car has so so audio will not listen to it .
so you dont have a car?
you spend more time telling us what it isn't rather than what it actually is.
oh.
I disagree. I think he covered all the aspects of the soundbar that an average consumer wants to find out. At first I hesitated watching this as it is 33 minutes long, which I thought is too much for a soundbar review. But hey, I finished it till the end. 👍🏼
thanks for that Francis :) most reviews are shorter because they are optimising for youtube and/or just trying to get you to go to the website for the full review and affiliate links. Personally im just trying to get information out in my own way :)
this is the excellent in-depth review I've been looking for, I feel like I can make a much more informed purchase now.
glad you got something out of it :)
Fantastic review - thank you. If I’m listening through Bluetooth am I just getting stereo or can I still get all 3 channels?
just stereo.
Great review!
thank you :)