This saw rocks, and I just got it at Lowes for $299 - 15% for buying the floor model. One error in this review is that there is a leveler on one leg for uneven surfaces.....the soft start and brake are great additions, and 35" rip capacity is huge for a portable saw
We just purchased one at Lowe's last night. I found your video while looking for a video on how to assemble it. Thanks for making this video and sharing your opinion on it and explaining it's features. I learned a lot.
I used to have the Bosch 10" job site table saw with gravity stand ( great motor), but then I traded up to the Dewalt 10" table saw (DWE749) with mobile stand, the stand is so sturdy under load, it's worth buying the Dewalt for that reason alone, the back legs are angled way out, and it's like the saw is bolted down. Great when ripping sheet material.
Purchased this saw today after your review. It was true out of the box. I love it. Very easy to operate and adjust. The fence is great! Your review was excellent and gave me the information I needed to make a decision. Thank you sir! Much appreciated!
@@BenAlaux I still have it and it is still going strong. I'm just a hobbiest in my garage. I don't use it weekly on a job site or anything so take that into consideration. I have had zero issues with it over the years and love how easy it is to fold up and put away.
If I hadn't already bought the DeWalt 7491RS, I would have bought this. Cheaper at $329 at Lowe's and a wider rip capacity. Out-feed support too. It would have been perfect for the amount of use I give it.
Bought this today and used it for 4 hours right out of the box. Have used the dewalt DWE7491 many times. 35" max width is a plus. The big difference?...$200 saved. Negligible difference.
I bought this Hitachi. Lowe's had it in stock and I could just go pick it up and get to work. It was on sale and with a 10% off coupon, I got it for $289.00. These reviews are all over the place and seemed to only make decisions making more difficult. I bought a damn table saw, now I can get to work. I did read many of the comments. They will call bullshit fast on a reviewer. Love it!
Howdy! Thanks for taking the time to do this review. I am just getting started in woodworking and I am going to get this saw vs the Dewalt based on your review. Thank you and stay safe!
Love this channel and the non biased reviews. This saw was a definite contender that I did want to look at personally after seeing many reviews that included it. It was the only one I never got to see displayed out of box. Not complaining as I’m glad my DeWalt 7491RS has been phenomenal. Easily one of the best investments I’ve made. Appreciated your review on it as well. Stay safe.
Rob why do you like the DeWalt better? My old Ridgid just died and I was looking at the Metabo HPT C10JRSM next to the DWE7491RS at the store. I kept coming back to the Metabo and ultimately selected it. I liked the larger table, rear outfeed support, larger capacity, and slightly sturdier fence. I also felt that the quality was better. Now, this could have been perception because it looked like the floor model of the Dewalt had been left out in the rain because there was rust everywhere. The DeWalt does have a nice quick removal feature for the riving knife but 99% of the time I run with no guard but with the knife. I also noticed that the Metabo knife can be lowered below the blade level for plunges into 3/4 stock - Anything more the knife would have to be removed. I'm wondering if I missed something? Is the DeWalt just a better running saw? Thanks!
Bro I had the same experience. I was comparing side by side at the store and the Metabo looks so much better. It just look a better quality. The Metabo was more steady than the dewalt. It also has a 35 inch rip capacity. Now that I am using it I'm very happy with the performance.
Thanks for the video I just picked one up at Lowes for 329, I'm just getting into woodworking and needed a better saw, my wife's uncle gave me his old Delta, no riving knife, no blade guard, it looks like 1/2 of the throat plate is missing, it just felt dangerous to me and as a brand new table saw user I wanted something more modern. I was wondering about the stand, you answered that question thanks.
I just picked that up as well. I was waiting for the Dewalt or the Hitachi to go on sale for Black Friday. Last year dewalts went on sale for $399, but nothing this year so I grabbed the Hitachi or Metabo or whatever. Ridgids is also on sale in the $300's but from what I've read, there's no comparison. Can't wait to use it.
@@HipsterDoofus100 I really like the way it cuts, I only made practice cuts but it is amazing, the only issue I ran into was the outfeed guide that attaches to the underside of the saw, one of the screw's was stripped, a quick call to customer service and they sent me a new one.
Regarding the Hitachi soft start switch issue. My saw is 2 months past warantee. I called Hitachi and the customer service rep said to simply take in the saw into a service center and they would honor the warantee and replace the switch. He also said they would send me a switch free of charge along with a wiring diagram. I am having them send me the switch as the install the rep described sounds pretty simple.
I loved the saw for about 4 months but it started shouting off every 5 inches!!! My day got really long when I was doing the same thing with a strait edge an a battery saw!!!
There is a leg leveler on the CR10J. If you look at the bottom of the legs 3 of the Blackfeet look the same one does not. If you twist that foot that is the leveler you wished they had!
At 5:35 min, you wished that it had a leg leveling system. The right, front leg has an adjustable foot. I wish that it also had a spirit level built in., but that may be asking too much. But most importantly it is stable. I found that for its price range, this model is well stabilized.
Just a little sidebar Rob, I have the Bosch 10" table saw with gravity stand ( convenient, not stable), and i have the Dewalt 8 1/4" table saw with the rolling table saw stand ( very stable, and convenient) the bosch is the better saw, but I prefer using the Dewalt because the stand is so steady when ripping large sheet lumber, there's no substitute for a steady base on a table saw.
Bought this at big box blue store on sale & because I liked the portable wheels. Failed after few uses, cutting soft redwood. I could not return because I waited after 90 days to start using it. Soft-start module failed and prevents reset. Part is back ordered 3-6 months. Look at all the 1 star reviews on Amazon and Lowes website same exact problem. When I tried to leave a review on Hitachi website for this saw, they rejected it, very dishonest on their part since I was warning people about their defective soft start sensor which will prevent you from starting the saw even if it's not hot and you wait 24 hours. There is nothing you can do except wait 3-6 months for this back ordered part. Hitachi customer support is bad, they don't care so buyer beware. This saw should be recalled. How is it they have parts to keep selling it in store, but can't provide parts for service and they have bad customer service.
@@moshier94 Thats a shame its on sale right now and seemed promising, I want something more bulletproof for around the same price, any suggestions? I know the Ridgid one isnt as good but maybe if it doesn't breakdown thats a plus.
Thanks for the detailed review. Just found one of these on clearance for considerably less than $300. It was a no brainier. Love the features and power.
This is definitely a copy of the Dewalt 7491rs. Dewalt's legs are MUCH easier and faster to use. I do wish the Dewalt had the outfeed extension, though.
The lack of an outfeed is what's driving me away from the Dewalt. I typically don't have a second pair of hands to help me on a lot of my home projects, so an outfeed table is kind of a must for me. I know there's work arounds, but for $500-$600, why couldn't they include an outfeed?
Fantastic review. I just picked this up at Lowes for $312. I was curious about the dado set. I have seen complaints about the riving knife be a pain when it comes to installing a dado set. I am yet to attempt it.
Great review! Hitachi has done a complete 180 in the past year; they've come out with the best impact on the market in the Triple Hammer, the most powerful cordless drill with their recent hammer brushless model, and have introduced some excellent new cordless nailers. I have the DeWalt 745 and have been on the fence between keeping it and buying a stand or returning it and buying this Hitachi. Either way I'd be spending about the same, but the DeWalt would be more portable since it can detach from the stand (but doesn't include dado capacity which isn't a big deal for me). Which would you recommend?
@@jakeweihe162 how is the saw doing? Accurate,power? Riving knife can be lowered for non through cut? Please give me advice as I m deciding between this saw and DeWalt 7491 thanks
@@jakeweihe162 do you still have this saw/ commenting on it sounding weird - bought one yesterday and I thought it also had a strange noise to the motor
I tried this out in the store today. The fence had quite a bit of flex when extended off the table. It was sitting right next to the dewalt dwe7491. It's obvious that hitachi is working with dewalt on This model. There is more similar with these two then sawstop and Bosch , if you know what I mean. The biggest thing for me was the fence flex and the fact that instead of having the flip over piece like the dewalt on the fence that gives support in full extension it rotates. What this means is unlike the dewalt you can't flip that part over the fence while it's on the table ripping narrow pieces where on the dewalt it acts like a spacer to be able to still safely use a push stick with narrow stock. For a home diy or woodworker that's a disadvantage that could be worth the difference in price.
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz that's true but those thousand people are a great durability test. The dwe7491 sitting next to it probably had the same thousand people play with it. I'm really torn because it has a lot of great features. Outside of the fence that felt a tad bit flimsy in the locking latches, could have been the setup, I wouldn't have blinked an eye at buying it over the Dewalt and using the $ 180 in savings for something else in the shop. But now I see this is coming and I'm like, no way ,lots of torque and a rack and pinion fence. th-cam.com/video/vlKb0uccYvw/w-d-xo.html
nice review, as usual. i am looking ( a little bit) for a new portable table saw. still occasionally my falling apart 20 yr old junker, as frustrating as it is, but researching now might make it easier to pull the trigger if i see a good deal-maybe used. can't justify much money for use at home...
Have you had any problem with your Hitachi saw I see a lot of people are claiming that the power switch goes out and the soft start on the motor goes out would you still buy it
Great review. I do have to laugh about the folding leg button complaint. I have this saw and have no issues opening or closing the legs so I do have to laugh but in a review there always seems to be something to complain about no matter how slight a issue is. Great saw...great price and it won your shootout against all the big boys. Keep up the good work and if able try not to complain about something so minor as it really is a first world issue.
Hey Rob, I would like to know the weight of the saw withou the stand, because I wanted to bring it to Brazil, but the luggage needs to be 72lbs. I realy love the channel and the forum
This was a great review. Was curious to ask what about the dewalt that you still prefer it over the metabo? Lowe’s has a great deal right now on the metabo so I’m balancing between the two.
Holy crap…. I was watching you thinking you looked like Robert dinero. I was gonna leave a comment saying “thanks Robert “ as a joke. Then I seen your name tag.
Bought the Hitachi at Lowes, year end special sale for $299. Had to wait for delivery but was not using the saw during g that time. So far I like the saw, it was easy to assemble and cut good even with the factory blade. Bought a 60 tooth blade for it , have not installed it yet.
Great review, I’m happy I stumbled onto your channel! You do a great job explaining things clearly. Just curious: why no Bosch reviews? I recently purchased Bosch’s job site table saw, and am feeling some regret knowing that I could have picked this up for almost $200 cheaper
Hi I just bought a Hikoki and i dont like the rack and pinion is erratic noisy and the two rails have lateral movement so will not be very accurate can i improve the slides ? thanks Kind regards George
I bought this saw on Black Friday today. I run the saw and the power keeps tripping when I used shop vac. I unplugged the shop vac and ran with 12 gauge cord alone with the table saw. It tripped again. What went wrong here? Do I have a lemon motor? Does this saw must be on dedicated line to run it?
what makes the DeWalt fence better than the Hitachi? I'm either buying a rolling stand for my current DeWalt or buying the Hitachi at $349.99 at Lowe's.
I bought the Kobalt on sale for 179 and its still in my truck. Am I firing it back up to go back for the Hitachi for another 150? This video has me thinking it might be worth it. I know the Kobalt is a good saw, but the extra features of the Hitachi are fantastic.
I loved it myself for about 4 months. Then all the sudden it wouldn't cut on. There's no sawdust anywhere cuz I cleaned it off and use a vacuum with it. Any ideas? I couldn't find the fuse if that's the issue.
I need some assistance. I bought one about 2 years ago and used it once to put my flooring in. Had been stored in my garage since that job. I pulled the saw out this past weekend hoping to cut some 2x4. When I go to turn it on the saw cycles for like 2 seconds and stops. The motor appears to stay on until I manually shut it off. I saw the reset button and tried that but it didn't help. I hope it's a simple fix.
Hello, Why do the miter gauge slots have their top edges beveled? It seems it is not possible to remove miter guage play using nylon expansion discs due to the beveled edge. Is there any good quality miter guage that can work effectively with the beveled slots?
I bought my C10RJ solely relying on your two table saw reviews, Rob. I managed to adjust fence and blade parallel to both tracks perfectly, but having problem with adjusting fence to the table top. Vertically, it isn't square to the top. Do you know if it can be adjusted? Anyone with the same problem here?
theres no adjustment for squaring the miter slots to the blade. I can not find that info anywhere. Is this what you have found? and no its not on page 40 of the manual.....
I just bought one based on your table saw shootout. The DeWalt was a little too high in price and for the money, this seemed just as good or almost. Looking forward to using it in my shop.
@@farmermike9262 The fence is great. Very accurate. I have broken down plywood with my Kreg Adaptive cutting system, then ripped 96" long pieces with this saw. I then checked to see if It was equal down the length. It was. I have full confidence in it. It is a great saw. The only concern I have is if I need service in the future. DeWalt has service everywhere. Metabo doesn't. It would have to be shipped. I saved my box just in case.
Rob do you mind giving us all an updated review of this saw? Do you think it is still a close second to the dewalt, since the buy out of Hitachi? I am hobbiest and am looking at the metabo and Dewalt 10", just not sure the dewalt is worth the extra money. Plastic gears are concern in my opinion. Thanks in advance and keep up the great reviews.
If you see this, I just posted my comments about the saw and I would not buy another one of these saws. One would think the plastic gears would wear out first, nope. The threaded steel rod wore down the threads on the cheap aluminum or pot metal attached to the motor. The result is motor/blade will not raise or lower. If you can find a new motor that is the only fix other than a new saw. Will not buy another one. My son-in-law is thinking about a way to repair this motor......
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Has anyone made a zero-clearance insert for this saw yet? or a dado insert? Any tips to share? I know dado insert isn't available from Hitachi just yet.
I just picked one up today for 250 off of Facebook marketplace. Things like new and came with a cross cut sled and zero clearance insert. And brand new Freud 80 tooth blade. No way I was gonna let that deal go. Btw anyone looking for a like new Ryobi table saw lol
Don't know if anybody cares about this, but Lowes has been clearing out the Hitachi ($299) and replacing them with the same saw that is a "Metabo" branded. I ended up driving two hours to get the Hitachi on sale after they said it was there, to find out it was not that but the more expensive Metabo. Walked out the door with a brand new Metabo for $290 after military discount. FWIW the SKUs on the two saws are linked....hint hint. Good luck hunting these saws down!
After one year of owning this saw (based on this review and the 349 price tag at Lowe’s) I have to say it’s a let down. Within the first few months many of the factory tightened fasteners were coming loose. None of them had any locktite or even lock washers. The motor itself comes out of alignment constantly. At six months two of the welds holding the frame together snapped. On top of that hitatchi both through email and through referred vendors has now Confirmed that the daddy insert is actually a myth. Yes, I made one but the design of the throat is such that it snaps when passing material through it. Also, the power cord feeding the motor doesn’t actually allow you supply a full 15 amps to it so forget about even a 14 or 12 gauge extension cord. Spend the money and buy the dewalt. Buying the hitatchi to do any real work is like buying a plastic fork cut through a steak; it will get the job done for a few minutes, but in the end you may end up chewing on chunks of plastic.
Good info. I was considering this saw but everything just felt a little flimsy to me. I guess my impressions were right. I actually ended up with the ridgid r4513 when it went on sale. Doesn't have some of the little features like soft start and braking but the fence is really solid and the whole saw feels heavy duty. Maybe I'm wrong but that's just my impression.
What would you recommend for a good blade for finder trim type work? Also, have a recommendation fo ra dado? never done that before, so I' could use the advice.
My question is when it comes to buying a saw. I don't have much space for a cabinet saws. How ever this is what I like to own since they are very accurate and easy to work. But since I don't have the space for it which job site saw would you recommend?most my project are small. So I would like to have something that is easy and accurate to work with small pices. I was leaning towards the Dewalt. But then I heard that the miter fence is not that good. How is the Hitachi compared to it?
Omer Amir maybe check out DeWalt's cordless 8 1/4" table saw. It's tiny, and powerful by current battery performances. A couple batteries and you're good to go. The 24" rip capacity is skookum!
Real world comparison between rigid 4514 and metabo 10in. Metabos fence is not sturdy too much slack in the pinion fence when locked. All plastic. Very cheap feeling. Ripping 3/4ply beyond 28in the fence and support were very unstable. The stand were very stable is a pain in the ass pushing 4 separate pins. Basically it has great features poorly executed. Janky feeling. Overall I would recommend I as a beginner/budget saw. Has great power just dont think the plastic on fence and pinion are durable enough to last thru the years. The rigid lacks metabos features but is solid and sturdy overall. The out rigging of the fence for wider rips is strong sturdy and durable. Gave me confidence when ripping 3/4 unlike the metabo. Part of the table on the rigid separates and slides out to support the fence when ripping beyond 13in. Very nice feature that NO OTHER SAW DOES! Why not? Relying on the dinky fence and pinion alone to support 3/4ply common. Also rigids stand it foot actuated. No pins to pull. No bending over and its overall weight it 20 or so lbs lighter than the metabo. If the metabo felt sturdier and Amazon could a actually deliver it without damages(sent it back twice! ) it would gave been a keeper. Rigid out shines. Would rather gave a dewalt but not at their price point
I bought the Metabo version of this Hitachi, pretty much based on the results of this video, and a few other videos showing very high reviews and recommendations. Metabo bought Hitachi, so it's the exact same saw with a different label on it. Having said that, I have noticed something that I cannot seem to figure out with this saw. The riving knife seems to be permanently affixed and cannot be removed or replaced, which presents a few problems. If I want to use a thinner blade, the wood won't pass the riving knife without binding, which obviously is dangerous. Also, if I want to use certain table saw jigs that require the riving knife to be removed, again.....I am unable to do so. Is there a way to resolve this???
Dewalt is double the price of Hikoki in Australia 🤦, not sure why it's $200 difference in the USA and Europe (euro). So I think I'm getting the Hikoki instead although I like the all metal gears for lifting mechanism, not plastic
Thank you for the great review, Robert. I have a question though. When you said "reasonably quiet", how many dB did you have in mind? I like little Dewalt 475, but its 107dB pitching noise makes it impossible to use in the residential building's basement, where I have a DIY room for things to build. Thanks.
I just set my new one up and flipped it on expecting to hear the normal jet engine. Nope, I think I can run this all day without the wife complaining. Edit, just DL'd Sound Analyzer App for Android, and while uncalibrated my open garage at 49.9db jumped to 82dB with the saw turned on. I can have a discussion with my voice raised, not yelling. I don't need the 'jobsite' aspect of this saw, so I imagine one could get it much quieter with an enclosure base built around it.
This saw broke on my husband first time he set it up to use it.😞 I also saw another video where the saw broke on the guy within a month and he was stuck on a job site with a useless table saw. Not even the same place it broke with my husband who also did a video he Named Hitachi table saw disappointment. He did a lot of research before choosing and was really upset because everything seemed perfect for what he wanted.
A co-worker and I bought C-10RJs during the 2017 Black Friday sale at Lowes. We started looking for the dado throat plate right away. Finally shipped the end of September from Master Tool Repair when they became available.
Rob I am interested in the Hitachi table saw I also like the skilsaw with the worm gear. The Hitachi is 349 at Lowe's. The skilsaw is 600 on line. Is it worth the almost double price of the Hitachi? Any advice would be appreciated!
I did love my Hitachi 10" saw but first the manual for it really sucks. Troubleshooting section tells you if it doesn't run reset the breaker ( doesn't tell you where it is) second replace the fuse ( where is it and it is not in the part section)
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Spot on.
Hitachi has made some great improvements over the last few years on their mobile tools. I love the competition.
Is because Hitachi acquired Metabo power tools.
This saw rocks, and I just got it at Lowes for $299 - 15% for buying the floor model. One error in this review is that there is a leveler on one leg for uneven surfaces.....the soft start and brake are great additions, and 35" rip capacity is huge for a portable saw
We just purchased one at Lowe's last night. I found your video while looking for a video on how to assemble it. Thanks for making this video and sharing your opinion on it and explaining it's features. I learned a lot.
Are you happy with the C-10RJ?
I used to have the Bosch 10" job site table saw with gravity stand ( great motor), but then I traded up to the Dewalt 10" table saw (DWE749) with mobile stand, the stand is so sturdy under load, it's worth buying the Dewalt for that reason alone, the back legs are angled way out, and it's like the saw is bolted down. Great when ripping sheet material.
Sounds like their new version took your advice on most of the items.. Wish I could get my hands on one to take a look at it..
Purchased this saw today after your review. It was true out of the box. I love it. Very easy to operate and adjust. The fence is great! Your review was excellent and gave me the information I needed to make a decision. Thank you sir! Much appreciated!
You think the fence as well as the pinion system feels sturdy giving user confidence ? Not me.
@@farmermike9262 the fence and pinion system are my favorite parts about the saw. 🤷🏻♂️
@@fresh2k2004any long term review to share? I am considering buying this Saw and am curious about durability
@@BenAlaux I still have it and it is still going strong. I'm just a hobbiest in my garage. I don't use it weekly on a job site or anything so take that into consideration. I have had zero issues with it over the years and love how easy it is to fold up and put away.
@@fresh2k2004 thanks
Great review, just one thing you requested, a leveling leg on this saw. It does come with one leveling shoe and also has storage under the saw. Thanks
If I hadn't already bought the DeWalt 7491RS, I would have bought this.
Cheaper at $329 at Lowe's and a wider rip capacity.
Out-feed support too.
It would have been perfect for the amount of use I give it.
Bought this today and used it for 4 hours right out of the box. Have used the dewalt DWE7491 many times. 35" max width is a plus. The big difference?...$200 saved. Negligible difference.
esantiago077 so is it worth the buy over the dewalt?
Now it’s on sale for $299! Just picked one up the other day
I rely on your reviews whenever i want to buy a tool. Thanks and keep up the good work, more power to you guys!
I bought this Hitachi. Lowe's had it in stock and I could just go pick it up and get to work. It was on sale and with a 10% off coupon, I got it for $289.00. These reviews are all over the place and seemed to only make decisions making more difficult. I bought a damn table saw, now I can get to work. I did read many of the comments. They will call bullshit fast on a reviewer. Love it!
Howdy! Thanks for taking the time to do this review. I am just getting started in woodworking and I am going to get this saw vs the Dewalt based on your review. Thank you and stay safe!
Love this channel and the non biased reviews. This saw was a definite contender that I did want to look at personally after seeing many reviews that included it. It was the only one I never got to see displayed out of box. Not complaining as I’m glad my DeWalt 7491RS has been phenomenal. Easily one of the best investments I’ve made. Appreciated your review on it as well. Stay safe.
There is a leveling leg! One leg adjust to prevent wobbling.
Rob why do you like the DeWalt better? My old Ridgid just died and I was looking at the Metabo HPT C10JRSM next to the DWE7491RS at the store. I kept coming back to the Metabo and ultimately selected it. I liked the larger table, rear outfeed support, larger capacity, and slightly sturdier fence. I also felt that the quality was better. Now, this could have been perception because it looked like the floor model of the Dewalt had been left out in the rain because there was rust everywhere. The DeWalt does have a nice quick removal feature for the riving knife but 99% of the time I run with no guard but with the knife. I also noticed that the Metabo knife can be lowered below the blade level for plunges into 3/4 stock - Anything more the knife would have to be removed. I'm wondering if I missed something? Is the DeWalt just a better running saw? Thanks!
Bro I had the same experience. I was comparing side by side at the store and the Metabo looks so much better. It just look a better quality. The Metabo was more steady than the dewalt. It also has a 35 inch rip capacity. Now that I am using it I'm very happy with the performance.
Thank you for the informative review! I decided to go with the C-10RJ and ordered one today. Hopefully it will serve me well.
How has it held up for you?
Has the C-10RJ performed well for you?
@@twes619 No problems!
@@jimnorman7131 Works like a champ!
Thanks for the video I just picked one up at Lowes for 329, I'm just getting into woodworking and needed a better saw, my wife's uncle gave me his old Delta, no riving knife, no blade guard, it looks like 1/2 of the throat plate is missing, it just felt dangerous to me and as a brand new table saw user I wanted something more modern. I was wondering about the stand, you answered that question thanks.
I just picked that up as well. I was waiting for the Dewalt or the Hitachi to go on sale for Black Friday. Last year dewalts went on sale for $399, but nothing this year so I grabbed the Hitachi or Metabo or whatever. Ridgids is also on sale in the $300's but from what I've read, there's no comparison. Can't wait to use it.
@@HipsterDoofus100 I really like the way it cuts, I only made practice cuts but it is amazing, the only issue I ran into was the outfeed guide that attaches to the underside of the saw, one of the screw's was stripped, a quick call to customer service and they sent me a new one.
Regarding the Hitachi soft start switch issue. My saw is 2 months past warantee. I called Hitachi and the customer service rep said to simply take in the saw into a service center and they would honor the warantee and replace the switch. He also said they would send me a switch free of charge along with a wiring diagram. I am having them send me the switch as the install the rep described sounds pretty simple.
I loved the saw for about 4 months but it started shouting off every 5 inches!!! My day got really long when I was doing the same thing with a strait edge an a battery saw!!!
Hello Rob!
Would you explain, why ???? Dewalt better than Hitachi table saw?
Always the best videos. Great communicator.
TheRazorbackscott wow thx man!
There is a leg leveler on the CR10J. If you look at the bottom of the legs 3 of the Blackfeet look the same one does not. If you twist that foot that is the leveler you wished they had!
It does have an adjustable leg for leveling............at least mine does...
It does have an adjustable leg. The one with the black collar at the bottom.
Ian Powell yes it does
At 5:35 min, you wished that it had a leg leveling system. The right, front leg has an adjustable foot. I wish that it also had a spirit level built in., but that may be asking too much. But most importantly it is stable. I found that for its price range, this model is well stabilized.
Just a little sidebar Rob, I have the Bosch 10" table saw with gravity stand ( convenient, not stable), and i have the Dewalt 8 1/4" table saw with the rolling table saw stand ( very stable, and convenient) the bosch is the better saw, but I prefer using the Dewalt because the stand is so steady when ripping large sheet lumber, there's no substitute for a steady base on a table saw.
Bought this at big box blue store on sale & because I liked the portable wheels. Failed after few uses, cutting soft redwood. I could not return because I waited after 90 days to start using it. Soft-start module failed and prevents reset. Part is back ordered 3-6 months. Look at all the 1 star reviews on Amazon and Lowes website same exact problem. When I tried to leave a review on Hitachi website for this saw, they rejected it, very dishonest on their part since I was warning people about their defective soft start sensor which will prevent you from starting the saw even if it's not hot and you wait 24 hours. There is nothing you can do except wait 3-6 months for this back ordered part. Hitachi customer support is bad, they don't care so buyer beware. This saw should be recalled. How is it they have parts to keep selling it in store, but can't provide parts for service and they have bad customer service.
Thank you. My dad was thinking of buying this table saw and wanted to look at reviews to find a good table saw. Will definitely avoid it.
I've now gone through two of these, one a free replacement at Lowe's. Same exact problem. This thing is junk.
@@moshier94 Thats a shame its on sale right now and seemed promising, I want something more bulletproof for around the same price, any suggestions? I know the Ridgid one isnt as good but maybe if it doesn't breakdown thats a plus.
@@TheLinkMedic I'm just getting a 50s Craftsman table saw
Thanks for the detailed review. Just found one of these on clearance for considerably less than $300. It was a no brainier. Love the features and power.
hoping to find a good black friday deal on the metabo . thanks and take care Rob . jeff
Looks almost exactly like the dewalt including the base!
Thx Rob for the review thought about getting this saw.
This is definitely a copy of the Dewalt 7491rs. Dewalt's legs are MUCH easier and faster to use. I do wish the Dewalt had the outfeed extension, though.
Eric Gray patents expire ... Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
The lack of an outfeed is what's driving me away from the Dewalt. I typically don't have a second pair of hands to help me on a lot of my home projects, so an outfeed table is kind of a must for me. I know there's work arounds, but for $500-$600, why couldn't they include an outfeed?
I bought this saw a few months ago on major sale because Hitachi got bought out. I'm curious if you still endorse this saw two years later. Thanks!
I'm a hobbyist, I was tossing up between this and the Dewalt DWE7491. I think the Hitachi will be more than good enough for me?
Yes. But also look at the rigid 4514 it's on sale now
Thank you Rob, great video as always!
Fantastic review. I just picked this up at Lowes for $312. I was curious about the dado set. I have seen complaints about the riving knife be a pain when it comes to installing a dado set. I am yet to attempt it.
You should show the riving knife in your demonstration!!
Charles Price agreed I did not realise my foreman had removed it when I filmed this
Great review! Hitachi has done a complete 180 in the past year; they've come out with the best impact on the market in the Triple Hammer, the most powerful cordless drill with their recent hammer brushless model, and have introduced some excellent new cordless nailers. I have the DeWalt 745 and have been on the fence between keeping it and buying a stand or returning it and buying this Hitachi. Either way I'd be spending about the same, but the DeWalt would be more portable since it can detach from the stand (but doesn't include dado capacity which isn't a big deal for me). Which would you recommend?
greenskiis if you already have it just get the stand- it's an awesome saw
greenskiis the saw can’t be removed from the stand??
"While I think the Dewalt is way better, the Hitachi is pretty darn close." Huh?
Probably definitely
Nervous chatter. Slow down, take a breath, think.
The Dewalt should be its $200 plus more. Is it worth that for a job site saw???
I assume he meant the “Dewalt is clearly better, but the Hitachi is pretty darn close.”
Listen to the whole statement. Yes the Dewalt is a better saw but is it $200 better... For me no.
The miter gauge storage is right behind the cord storage
I bought one for $349 at Lowes today. Sweet! New model must be on the way.
So did I. But mine sounds weird. Have u used yours?
Jake Weihe how did u like it I m looking at this and the dewalt.
@@jakeweihe162 how is the saw doing? Accurate,power? Riving knife can be lowered for non through cut? Please give me advice as I m deciding between this saw and DeWalt 7491 thanks
@@jakeweihe162 do you still have this saw/ commenting on it sounding weird - bought one yesterday and I thought it also had a strange noise to the motor
Great review. Your excitement is infections.
I tried this out in the store today. The fence had quite a bit of flex when extended off the table. It was sitting right next to the dewalt dwe7491. It's obvious that hitachi is working with dewalt on This model. There is more similar with these two then sawstop and Bosch , if you know what I mean. The biggest thing for me was the fence flex and the fact that instead of having the flip over piece like the dewalt on the fence that gives support in full extension it rotates. What this means is unlike the dewalt you can't flip that part over the fence while it's on the table ripping narrow pieces where on the dewalt it acts like a spacer to be able to still safely use a push stick with narrow stock. For a home diy or woodworker that's a disadvantage that could be worth the difference in price.
30yrpro just remember the one at the store was probably set up by a 16 year old clerk, and a thousand people have been messing with it
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz that's true but those thousand people are a great durability test. The dwe7491 sitting next to it probably had the same thousand people play with it. I'm really torn because it has a lot of great features. Outside of the fence that felt a tad bit flimsy in the locking latches, could have been the setup, I wouldn't have blinked an eye at buying it over the Dewalt and using the $ 180 in savings for something else in the shop. But now I see this is coming and I'm like, no way ,lots of torque and a rack and pinion fence.
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@30yr pro that's a really good point
nice review, as usual. i am looking ( a little bit) for a new portable table saw. still occasionally my falling apart 20 yr old junker, as frustrating as it is, but researching now might make it easier to pull the trigger if i see a good deal-maybe used. can't justify much money for use at home...
Best reviews by far!
wahinenuiloa thx
Have you had any problem with your Hitachi saw I see a lot of people are claiming that the power switch goes out and the soft start on the motor goes out would you still buy it
I read that too. I was considering this saw until I read that.
Between Makita mlt 100 and Bosch gtx 10 xc which one would you reccomend? One has more rpm other has more power....whisc is more important?
Great review. I do have to laugh about the folding leg button complaint. I have this saw and have no issues opening or closing the legs
so I do have to laugh but in a review there always seems to be something to complain about no matter how slight a issue is. Great saw...great price and it won your shootout against all the big boys. Keep up the good work and if able try not to complain about something so minor as it really is a first world issue.
Thanx for your great review keep up great work Been considering the metabo ,bosch, or dewalts 7491 🤔 time to move up from 8 1/2 blade
Hey Rob, I would like to know the weight of the saw withou the stand, because I wanted to bring it to Brazil, but the luggage needs to be 72lbs.
I realy love the channel and the forum
This was a great review. Was curious to ask what about the dewalt that you still prefer it over the metabo? Lowe’s has a great deal right now on the metabo so I’m balancing between the two.
This is now the Metabo HPT. Is this new version better than the Hitachi? How's the Hitachi holding up three years later?
Holy crap…. I was watching you thinking you looked like Robert dinero. I was gonna leave a comment saying “thanks Robert “ as a joke. Then I seen your name tag.
I got excited when I read 10'', I'm looking for one to cut 150mm deep cuts.
I'm buying one! thanks for this review!! And by the way, they sell these at Lowe's
carlos espinal did you buy the saw how does it work if you did
Bought the Hitachi at Lowes, year end special sale for $299. Had to wait for delivery but was not using the saw during g that time. So far I like the saw, it was easy to assemble and cut good even with the factory blade. Bought a 60 tooth blade for it , have not installed it yet.
Great review, I’m happy I stumbled onto your channel! You do a great job explaining things clearly. Just curious: why no Bosch reviews?
I recently purchased Bosch’s job site table saw, and am feeling some regret knowing that I could have picked this up for almost $200 cheaper
Cole Mt but it seemed to take in your foot off the gas lately
I'm hoping in the next few months and things from them
Hi I just bought a Hikoki and i dont like the rack and pinion is erratic noisy and the two rails have lateral movement so will not be very accurate can i improve the slides ? thanks
Kind regards
George
i'm shopping for a new table saw!!! this might be the one!
I bought this saw on Black Friday today. I run the saw and the power keeps tripping when I used shop vac. I unplugged the shop vac and ran with 12 gauge cord alone with the table saw. It tripped again. What went wrong here? Do I have a lemon motor? Does this saw must be on dedicated line to run it?
what makes the DeWalt fence better than the Hitachi? I'm either buying a rolling stand for my current DeWalt or buying the Hitachi at $349.99 at Lowe's.
The rack and pinion fence is superior
I bought the Kobalt on sale for 179 and its still in my truck. Am I firing it back up to go back for the Hitachi for another 150? This video has me thinking it might be worth it. I know the Kobalt is a good saw, but the extra features of the Hitachi are fantastic.
Harry Knows Too late now. They are selling for $480 dollars. I just checked. Oh well. I’ll be fine. Thanks
I loved it myself for about 4 months. Then all the sudden it wouldn't cut on. There's no sawdust anywhere cuz I cleaned it off and use a vacuum with it. Any ideas? I couldn't find the fuse if that's the issue.
I need some assistance. I bought one about 2 years ago and used it once to put my flooring in. Had been stored in my garage since that job. I pulled the saw out this past weekend hoping to cut some 2x4. When I go to turn it on the saw cycles for like 2 seconds and stops. The motor appears to stay on until I manually shut it off. I saw the reset button and tried that but it didn't help. I hope it's a simple fix.
Hello,
Why do the miter gauge slots have their top edges beveled?
It seems it is not possible to remove miter guage play using nylon expansion discs due to the beveled edge.
Is there any good quality miter guage that can work effectively with the beveled slots?
I bought my C10RJ solely relying on your two table saw reviews, Rob. I managed to adjust fence and blade parallel to both tracks perfectly, but having problem with adjusting fence to the table top. Vertically, it isn't square to the top. Do you know if it can be adjusted? Anyone with the same problem here?
*Excellent review! As always*
Thanks again!
I guess you made people by this, can't find this thing for under 500 now :-/. Great review
Check Lowe’s and Amazon brother
Actually Amazon closed the deal recently, but Lowe’s has one until the 18th
Nice job on the review
Outstanding review.
theres no adjustment for squaring the miter slots to the blade. I can not find that info anywhere. Is this what you have found? and no its not on page 40 of the manual.....
I just bought one based on your table saw shootout. The DeWalt was a little too high in price and for the money, this seemed just as good or almost. Looking forward to using it in my shop.
What do you think of the durability and sturdiness of the fence and when ripping beyond 13, 15 , 18in?
@@farmermike9262 The fence is great. Very accurate. I have broken down plywood with my Kreg Adaptive cutting system, then ripped 96" long pieces with this saw. I then checked to see if It was equal down the length. It was. I have full confidence in it. It is a great saw. The only concern I have is if I need service in the future. DeWalt has service everywhere. Metabo doesn't. It would have to be shipped. I saved my box just in case.
Rob do you mind giving us all an updated review of this saw? Do you think it is still a close second to the dewalt, since the buy out of Hitachi? I am hobbiest and am looking at the metabo and Dewalt 10", just not sure the dewalt is worth the extra money. Plastic gears are concern in my opinion. Thanks in advance and keep up the great reviews.
If you see this, I just posted my comments about the saw and I would not buy another one of these saws. One would think the plastic gears would wear out first, nope. The threaded steel rod wore down the threads on the cheap aluminum or pot metal attached to the motor. The result is motor/blade will not raise or lower. If you can find a new motor that is the only fix other than a new saw. Will not buy another one. My son-in-law is thinking about a way to repair this motor......
The latest version of this has an adjustable foot to level the saw on an uneven surface.
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I don't think this is in UK yet. Dewalt killer! Then 7491RS is £900 so be interested to see where they price the Hitachi
Thanks for the awesome review!
Has anyone made a zero-clearance insert for this saw yet? or a dado insert? Any tips to share? I know dado insert isn't available from Hitachi just yet.
I just picked one up today for 250 off of Facebook marketplace. Things like new and came with a cross cut sled and zero clearance insert. And brand new Freud 80 tooth blade. No way I was gonna let that deal go. Btw anyone looking for a like new Ryobi table saw lol
Hi. Are u still recommend saw
Hi. Great review. Do u still recommend saw
Yes
Hi is a Hitachi better made than Hikoki?
Don't know if anybody cares about this, but Lowes has been clearing out
the Hitachi ($299) and replacing them with the same saw that is a
"Metabo" branded. I ended up driving two hours to get the Hitachi on
sale after they said it was there, to find out it was not that but the
more expensive Metabo. Walked out the door with a brand new Metabo for
$290 after military discount. FWIW the SKUs on the two saws are
linked....hint hint. Good luck hunting these saws down!
After one year of owning this saw (based on this review and the 349 price tag at Lowe’s) I have to say it’s a let down. Within the first few months many of the factory tightened fasteners were coming loose. None of them had any locktite or even lock washers. The motor itself comes out of alignment constantly. At six months two of the welds holding the frame together snapped. On top of that hitatchi both through email and through referred vendors has now
Confirmed that the daddy insert is actually a myth. Yes, I made one but the design of the throat is such that it snaps when passing material through it. Also, the power cord feeding the motor doesn’t actually allow you supply a full 15 amps to it so forget about even a 14 or 12 gauge extension cord. Spend the money and buy the dewalt. Buying the hitatchi to do any real work is like buying a plastic fork cut through a steak; it will get the job done for a few minutes, but in the end you may end up chewing on chunks of plastic.
Good info. I was considering this saw but everything just felt a little flimsy to me. I guess my impressions were right.
I actually ended up with the ridgid r4513 when it went on sale. Doesn't have some of the little features like soft start and braking but the fence is really solid and the whole saw feels heavy duty. Maybe I'm wrong but that's just my impression.
What would you recommend for a good blade for finder trim type work? Also, have a recommendation fo ra dado? never done that before, so I' could use the advice.
80-100 tooth blade for finish work
Looking at this saw and the Dewalt. Why is the Dewalt way better?
Just picked one up for $314 from Lowes with 10% off coupon. Woot!
Great review
What was the 🏃 time for those batteries?
My question is when it comes to buying a saw. I don't have much space for a cabinet saws. How ever this is what I like to own since they are very accurate and easy to work. But since I don't have the space for it which job site saw would you recommend?most my project are small. So I would like to have something that is easy and accurate to work with small pices. I was leaning towards the Dewalt. But then I heard that the miter fence is not that good. How is the Hitachi compared to it?
Omer Amir maybe check out DeWalt's cordless 8 1/4" table saw. It's tiny, and powerful by current battery performances. A couple batteries and you're good to go. The 24" rip capacity is skookum!
Omer Amir all of these table size have similar Miter fences it very simple and not too involved
Real world comparison between rigid 4514 and metabo 10in. Metabos fence is not sturdy too much slack in the pinion fence when locked. All plastic. Very cheap feeling. Ripping 3/4ply beyond 28in the fence and support were very unstable. The stand were very stable is a pain in the ass pushing 4 separate pins. Basically it has great features poorly executed. Janky feeling. Overall I would recommend I as a beginner/budget saw. Has great power just dont think the plastic on fence and pinion are durable enough to last thru the years. The rigid lacks metabos features but is solid and sturdy overall. The out rigging of the fence for wider rips is strong sturdy and durable. Gave me confidence when ripping 3/4 unlike the metabo. Part of the table on the rigid separates and slides out to support the fence when ripping beyond 13in. Very nice feature that NO OTHER SAW DOES! Why not? Relying on the dinky fence and pinion alone to support 3/4ply common. Also rigids stand it foot actuated. No pins to pull. No bending over and its overall weight it 20 or so lbs lighter than the metabo. If the metabo felt sturdier and Amazon could a actually deliver it without damages(sent it back twice! ) it would gave been a keeper. Rigid out shines. Would rather gave a dewalt but not at their price point
I bought the Metabo version of this Hitachi, pretty much based on the results of this video, and a few other videos showing very high reviews and recommendations. Metabo bought Hitachi, so it's the exact same saw with a different label on it. Having said that, I have noticed something that I cannot seem to figure out with this saw. The riving knife seems to be permanently affixed and cannot be removed or replaced, which presents a few problems. If I want to use a thinner blade, the wood won't pass the riving knife without binding, which obviously is dangerous. Also, if I want to use certain table saw jigs that require the riving knife to be removed, again.....I am unable to do so. Is there a way to resolve this???
Have you found solutions yet? Please let me know because I want to buy this saw but we as worry about the riving knife issue too.thanks
Dewalt is double the price of Hikoki in Australia 🤦, not sure why it's $200 difference in the USA and Europe (euro). So I think I'm getting the Hikoki instead although I like the all metal gears for lifting mechanism, not plastic
Robert, have you guys tried the new Matabo HPT cordless/corded Table Saw?
Thank you for the great review, Robert. I have a question though. When you said "reasonably quiet", how many dB did you have in mind? I like little Dewalt 475, but its 107dB pitching noise makes it impossible to use in the residential building's basement, where I have a DIY room for things to build. Thanks.
I just set my new one up and flipped it on expecting to hear the normal jet engine.
Nope, I think I can run this all day without the wife complaining.
Edit, just DL'd Sound Analyzer App for Android, and while uncalibrated my open garage at 49.9db jumped to 82dB with the saw turned on.
I can have a discussion with my voice raised, not yelling.
I don't need the 'jobsite' aspect of this saw, so I imagine one could get it much quieter with an enclosure base built around it.
@@boots7859 Thanks a lot, that's a very encouraging response.
This saw broke on my husband first time he set it up to use it.😞 I also saw another video where the saw broke on the guy within a month and he was stuck on a job site with a useless table saw. Not even the same place it broke with my husband who also did a video he Named Hitachi table saw disappointment. He did a lot of research before choosing and was really upset because everything seemed perfect for what he wanted.
I just got mine, 2 cute and its down. not working . (looked at power supply and comon errors)
Took me almost a full year to obtain the dado throat plate for the C-10RJ.
David Lewis that’s not good
A co-worker and I bought C-10RJs during the 2017 Black Friday sale at Lowes. We started looking for the dado throat plate right away. Finally shipped the end of September from Master Tool Repair when they became available.
What would you recommend today, since it looks like its discontinued?
Hitachi is now called Hikoki. I think they're selling the same machine but under a different name.
Rob I am interested in the Hitachi table saw I also like the skilsaw with the worm gear. The Hitachi is 349 at Lowe's. The skilsaw is 600 on line. Is it worth the almost double price of the Hitachi? Any advice would be appreciated!
John Shuler I think the Skil saw is a hell of a saw we’ve been using on the job site it’s a beast
I noted the skilsaw is only worm drive table saw. second, it will rip a 4X one pass. none of the others, most around 2.75 to 3.125
I did love my Hitachi 10" saw but first the manual for it really sucks. Troubleshooting section tells you if it doesn't run reset the breaker ( doesn't tell you where it is) second replace the fuse ( where is it and it is not in the part section)
Michael Ellis hmmm don’t remember seeing on, guessing it on the motor
What kind of blade would one need to put on it for it to perform well?
60-80 tooth for what i do
How does the rack and pinion fence on the Hitachi compares to DeWalt in accuracy, reliability and durability?
AUSHER on par
How is the saw working out for you to date? I've seen reports of the fence release lever breaking on people? Any issues with that or any other issues?
AUSHER no issues