The Breen are a very mysterious species. So lets look at one of their ships and see what information we can glean from it shall we? Consider supporting us on Patreon: www.patreon.co...
Tuvok has a throwaway line in voyager's Scorpion episode that makes me wonder if the ships are partially grown hence the curves\blades and why they vary in size up to a point. "Starfleet has encountered species that use organic-based vessels. The Breen, for example. " An organic process would create some non-symmetrical and unusual shapes.
The crazy Breen. It was really cool having them brought into the Star Trek universe in such a dramatic way. Though, I always thought that it was a shame the Tholians and the Gorn weren't brought into the war in some way.
Foley has a strange taste.. The Breen ship is a VERY COOL design because it is so wierd and alien like. It just adds up to the unknwon race that the Breen were/are. I like these ships!
I like the design. Looks truly alien - just like the Breen. I like that the Breen's appearance was more then some dude with a weird forehead. They actually tried something different there. If I remember correctly, we saw a holding cell on board the Breen ship. Ezri and Worf were being help hostage as "gifts to the Dominion". Season seven episode, 'Til Death To Us Part'.
My favorite ship in the universe. Most of the humanoid species we've seen gravitate toward symmetry, and I love that some species, like the Breen, don't. Which reinforces the idea that our predilections aren't universal.
The Breen ship is kinda symmetrical on it's side. I really like that. Purposefully hidden symmetry. Weird stuff like that on an alien ship makes me think how their perspective is different from the human one. Maybe the Breen evolved in tunnels and developed a much more horizontally oriented point of view. Stuff like that.
Galvars 4 years ago I really like the look of the Breen Warships as they're very alien looking and also very aggressive looking. I have made these awesome looking ships out of LEGO's a few times, but it's been a while since I last build one of these fast and deadly looking Breen Warships out of LEGO's.
I actually like the asymmetrical design of the Breen ships. Those and the Klingon designs are my favorite from Trek-verse. Strangely enough I don't like most of the Federations designs (blasphemy I know, sue me); the saucer, secondary hull, nacelle designs just don't grab me most of the time.
One of the cooler looking alien ships, imo. Wish they got more involved with the Breen during the shows. Although, the mystery behind them was part of what was cool about them. Remember, never turn your back on a Breen! lol
the same artist is doing the new TV series it's going to be a Breene space station with Breene ships like deep space 9 with Breene instead of Cardasian.
I get the feeling this ship's 'design' was expedited and less thought was put into it, still one of my favorite designs from the show, to be honest. Can't wait for the more researched and discussed full episode. Granted its a shame you don't like the design of the ship too much but this is definitely a 'not for everyone' design. Though some of the pictures you used definitely aren't fairly good representations. I always got the impression the energy dissipation weapon was fired from much closer to the deflector, and the very overt 'weapon pods' at the tip of each blade contained both torpedos and disruptors or some more alien energy weapons. Also, the design (And the open pods and openness of the ship) made me think that there was a lot of modular components. Maybe the pods allow for weapons to be switched out easily, and similarly maybe ship parts are constructed and assembled separately allowing forsimilar and more varied designs.
I'm kind of curious what those ships are like inside, since the Breen wear those refrigeration suits and yet I remember Weyoun saying there planet was "pleasant" in an episode (I can't remember which one).
The larger ship in that diagram is not a Breen ship at all. It is from an episode of Voyager in the Delta quadrant. they just cut 2 Breen ships and slapped them together
I think the separate curves are modular in nature. When they design a new weapon they don't have to build a new ship, just a new module to attach to the ship. I think the Breen themselves are actually energy beings like the ones that took over Troi, Data and O'Brien in Power Play, so they just inhabit and control bodies they capture like the Gould from Star Gate. I think this is why they joined the war, capturing Fed worlds would be a great opportunity to expand. When Worf commented that 3 Klingon Warships tried to conquer the Breen home world and were never heard from again, well, if you take off the Breen suits, some of them will be very old Klingons or other species, that's why they wear the Suits, to keep their true nature as energy beings secret. Some species may be immune, like the Ferengi (Batazoids can't read them so Breen can't inhabit them), that's why they traded with them instead.
I like this ship because it's not a "standard" Star Trek ship design. I used to collect the Star Trek: Card Collectible Game until I lost my entire collection when I moved. They mentioned that the Breen Battleship was an organic-based ship (similar to a bio-ship). In the ST:CCG mechanics, your Breen personnel cards can "report to duty" directly onto this ship (like the Borg) instead at an outpost (like other races). In a ST:Voyager episode, Tuvok mentions the Federation has encountered species was organic based ships, like the Breen. What does that mean? Is the ship alive??? Are they "living weapons"? Oh, well (how deep?), kudos on this very interesting video and keep up with the great work you do!!!!
I know this comment is three years too late, but I have to say that the design of some Breen ships reminds me of old iron-sides ship. Not in design itself, but in purpose. Turned to one side; the ablative armor and minimal systems of that one side minimizes damage from head on attacks. Meaning that fighters and other things can be released from a safe bay on the reverse side; While also meaning that weapons systems on that forward facing side can hammer enemies. That's just speculation and theory though.
I haven't read any of the books that deal with the Breen. I was thinking maybe because the lived on a frozen world they have heat vision instead of light and if you were to look at the ship through their eyes it would look really elegant and beautiful.
I was, at first sight, too busy weeping to take in the design. (THEY KILLED MY SECOND-FAVORITE SHIP!!!! 😭😬😭😬) Looking at it now... kinda nice. Different. The designer realized that starships *don't* have to be aerodynamic. As for the lack of nacelles - monies I don't have say that it doesn't even have warp drive as we know it. And detachable parts are a possibility, but I personally doubt that. I want to say that the Federation is the only power that actually allows for detachment for escape purposes. Klingons, Romulans and Dominion ships usually fight to the death. And stop. Stopstopstopstop. *Why* does a Breen warship have a Naval Construction Code number????
I remember there was a Breen episode in TNG (with the human raised by the Breen) but can not remember if they showed a ship? Might be time to re-watch the series again. lol
the Battleship @4:50, isn't breen, its from the Voyager EP "Workforce", its the ships that the doctor disabled by firing a torpedo then detonating it with a phaser blast - Cant remember the alien race
In reality, there's probably not much practical difference between a space base and a spacecraft. It might be that a space base is just a specialized spacecraft. Thoughts?
Before we ever saw the Breen ship, we were told they used organic ships, had some sort of cloak, and disrupters. Did any of that continue into DS9? I would like to think they have a weak cloak that allowed them to get to Earth for that raid..
The asymmetrical design reminds me of Kilrathi ship designs from Wings Commander 3: Heart of the Tiger. Prince Thrakhath's fighter the Bloodfang was so baddass looking and a total pain in the ass to fight, I'd sneak up on him cloaked, uncloak then unload all weapons point blank to save 5-10 minutes of dogfighting. Damn spell check!.
Im wondering if we ever saw a class name or anything for the Breen ships on screen? I know Star Trek online has quite a few and they all have their own class names etc.
Weyoun says their home world is quite mild in temperature indicating the suites they have is not refrigeration. Seen other videos to think that they are to move water about their body as they have no circular vascular system kinda like a jellyfish and possible the suites are used so they can leave the water for extended periods of time. Thus semi or full aquatic maybe the universal translator doesn't work on them either. Anyway i like the asymmetrical design, it is after all for space flight with no air resistance and warp travel create a bubble around it anyway.
When I watched it the first time I thought they came up with the design by dropping a large ring shaped model and gluing all the pieces together after sweeping them into a pile. ;) Not to say I didn't like it, I liked that it was different, not every species is going to have a sleek design.
The Universe it seems to fit in somewhat better is in my view the 'Aliens' one. Though if you believe the Star Trek Novels view of the Breen then they have a number of diverse species forced to dress and sound alike to prevent prejudice. So speaking 'in universe' terms the legacy influence of several races could be said to be present in the ships design... or to put it another way... It's a space ship designed by committee.
I am not fond of the assymetrical design either. Sao Paulo a very large city in Brazil, Twelfth largest city in the world. Naming ships after cities is an old tradition.
The Breen ship looks like it was built by committee. It utilises an organic structure, and so quite alien you would have thought the designers wanted it too be. However rather than going completely down this route, a la Alien space jockey ship or (whispers) The Vorlons, it seems to have been squeezed into the whole Star Trek aesthetic vision. The result of this is a patchwork, hodgepodge of concepts in one model, and for this reason, doesn't really work for me.
I don't find you're reasons why it doesn't seem Star Trekish very compelling. Remember, not every vessel seen in ST carries that basic Federation design motif. You have the simple prismatic looking design of the Tholians, the cubic configuration of the Borg, the cigar shapes of the Doomsday Machine and the Probe from ST IV, etc. I love this ship and how alien it is. The first time you see it in DS 9 it's a great pan away reveal with some serious WTF vibes going on.
i wish we sore more of the Breen, its a od ship but i do like the hole its rely alien look about it. i fort it was bigger to. and i do find the hole dominion been alliance very od as well cos i could not rely see the benefits for the breen, but ,,,,,,,,, never turn your back ,,,,, on a breen .
No it's because this is not the Full episode on this ship. This is only a Mission Briefing. Where we just discuss the ship casually, without having done any prior research on it. Later we will gather all of the facts about it and do a full episode.
+PaxBritannia Weak review? If you can do better then please show us all your reviews, it is free content and you are complaining? If you don't like it then move on!
+PaxBritannia This isnt a review its just a discussion to get the ball rolling on a full episode later on. And not only that but Trekyards never do reviews on ships they are entertaining videos that are discussion shows about the ships and tech of Star Trek. Personally I really enjoy seeing their initial views about a ship before the do the research just to see the initial impressions, then when the full episode comes out you can see all the full information and even see where their thoughts may have been wrong etc. If you look at some of the full episodes where they even bring on the designers you may change your mind and enjoy the show?
The Sao Paolo is the name of one of Brazil's most populous cities. It is NOT "kind of a dumb name" and I wish you would refrain from making uneducated remarks like that.
Tuvok has a throwaway line in voyager's Scorpion episode that makes me wonder if the ships are partially grown hence the curves\blades and why they vary in size up to a point.
"Starfleet has encountered species that use organic-based
vessels. The Breen, for example. "
An organic process would create some non-symmetrical and unusual shapes.
I was fascinated by the Breen in every way, their language, ships and mysterious background. Loved it!
The crazy Breen. It was really cool having them brought into the Star Trek universe in such a dramatic way. Though, I always thought that it was a shame the Tholians and the Gorn weren't brought into the war in some way.
Foley has a strange taste.. The Breen ship is a VERY COOL design because it is so wierd and alien like. It just adds up to the unknwon race that the Breen were/are. I like these ships!
me too!
they don't need aerodynamics so much in a vacuum... doesn't need to be similar to our aircraft
Weird yet cool starship
The novel "Zero Sum Game" gives a rather interesting explanation about the Breen.
I like the design. Looks truly alien - just like the Breen. I like that the Breen's appearance was more then some dude with a weird forehead. They actually tried something different there.
If I remember correctly, we saw a holding cell on board the Breen ship. Ezri and Worf were being help hostage as "gifts to the Dominion". Season seven episode, 'Til Death To Us Part'.
It's lack of symmetry makes it very alien looking. I still think the Borg renegade ship is the best none symmetrical design in Trek.
My favorite ship in the universe. Most of the humanoid species we've seen gravitate toward symmetry, and I love that some species, like the Breen, don't. Which reinforces the idea that our predilections aren't universal.
The Breen ship is kinda symmetrical on it's side. I really like that. Purposefully hidden symmetry. Weird stuff like that on an alien ship makes me think how their perspective is different from the human one. Maybe the Breen evolved in tunnels and developed a much more horizontally oriented point of view. Stuff like that.
For sure Breen ship look like Alien construct. And that's good.
Galvars
4 years ago I really like the look of the Breen Warships as they're very alien looking and also very aggressive looking. I have made these awesome looking ships out of LEGO's a few times, but it's been a while since I last build one of these fast and deadly looking Breen Warships out of LEGO's.
Yeah, this is actually my favorite ship in the Trek universe hands down, followed closely by Romulan ships. Unique and truly alien.
I LOVE the asymmetrical aspect of this ship! ❤️
the Breen helmets were recycled from Star Wars, leia's disguise when she rescued Han.
Just found the channel and really loving it. I like the Breen ship for its unique design.
Such a cool ship.
loved that design...a unique approach to a truly alien design
I actually like the asymmetrical design of the Breen ships. Those and the Klingon designs are my favorite from Trek-verse. Strangely enough I don't like most of the Federations designs (blasphemy I know, sue me); the saucer, secondary hull, nacelle designs just don't grab me most of the time.
One of the cooler looking alien ships, imo. Wish they got more involved with the Breen during the shows. Although, the mystery behind them was part of what was cool about them. Remember, never turn your back on a Breen! lol
Does the captain like anything other than TOS ships? I love all the episodes, but this is a constant. Still a good episode. Thumbs up.
The Breen are a multi species confederate. There was a multi novel called the Typhon Pact. It explains the Breen a lot better.
Was it just me or did the Breen helmet feel like a rip-off of Leia's bounty hunter helmet in Return of the Jedi?
She got it from a Breen.
she IS a Breen xD
Nicholas Dickens when I saw it for the first time I thought the same exact thing!!!
all the weird shapes make it look nice when it explodes ;)
i always been really fond of the breen ships
the same artist is doing the new TV series it's going to be a Breene space station with
Breene ships like deep space 9 with Breene instead of Cardasian.
+Chris source???
I get the feeling this ship's 'design' was expedited and less thought was put into it, still one of my favorite designs from the show, to be honest. Can't wait for the more researched and discussed full episode. Granted its a shame you don't like the design of the ship too much but this is definitely a 'not for everyone' design. Though some of the pictures you used definitely aren't fairly good representations.
I always got the impression the energy dissipation weapon was fired from much closer to the deflector, and the very overt 'weapon pods' at the tip of each blade contained both torpedos and disruptors or some more alien energy weapons. Also, the design (And the open pods and openness of the ship) made me think that there was a lot of modular components. Maybe the pods allow for weapons to be switched out easily, and similarly maybe ship parts are constructed and assembled separately allowing forsimilar and more varied designs.
We saw the brig thanks to Worf and Dax.
I never really liked the Breen ships but I certainly appreciate the work done in making them.
It really reminds me of that oddball asymmetrical Borg ship.
IIRC Weyoun has a line about the Breen home world saying it was quite pleasant and temperate contrary to all the theories that it is cold and hostile.
The Breen was awesome trek needs new aliens and ships if it is going too live on
I'm kind of curious what those ships are like inside, since the Breen wear those refrigeration suits and yet I remember Weyoun saying there planet was "pleasant" in an episode (I can't remember which one).
didn't Dukat Fantasize about exiling the Man who married his Ex wife to their Embassy on the Breen Home world?
This is a cooler ship than almost any Federation design. I'm glad they actually let it look alien.
I like that it's not symmetrical. That gives it an alien look.
It was a sad day seeing what the Breen did to the Defiant, Defiant could not even defend herself
The larger ship in that diagram is not a Breen ship at all. It is from an episode of Voyager in the Delta quadrant. they just cut 2 Breen ships and slapped them together
Jason Newsham yes remember that one but in voyager it wasn't that big it was more about the scale of a fighter
Jason Newsham I know I wish they did their research and brought that up
I think the separate curves are modular in nature. When they design a new weapon they don't have to build a new ship, just a new module to attach to the ship.
I think the Breen themselves are actually energy beings like the ones that took over Troi, Data and O'Brien in Power Play, so they just inhabit and control bodies they capture like the Gould from Star Gate. I think this is why they joined the war, capturing Fed worlds would be a great opportunity to expand. When Worf commented that 3 Klingon Warships tried to conquer the Breen home world and were never heard from again, well, if you take off the Breen suits, some of them will be very old Klingons or other species, that's why they wear the Suits, to keep their true nature as energy beings secret.
Some species may be immune, like the Ferengi (Batazoids can't read them so Breen can't inhabit them), that's why they traded with them instead.
I'm pretty sure its first appearance was as a prison transport for Worf and Ezri Dax, not blowing up the Defiant. Am I right?
I like this ship because it's not a "standard" Star Trek ship design. I used to collect the Star Trek: Card Collectible Game until I lost my entire collection when I moved. They mentioned that the Breen Battleship was an organic-based ship (similar to a bio-ship). In the ST:CCG mechanics, your Breen personnel cards can "report to duty" directly onto this ship (like the Borg) instead at an outpost (like other races). In a ST:Voyager episode, Tuvok mentions the Federation has encountered species was organic based ships, like the Breen. What does that mean? Is the ship alive??? Are they "living weapons"? Oh, well (how deep?), kudos on this very interesting video and keep up with the great work you do!!!!
I can't wait for the Eaglemoss model of this to come out. It has a really cool color scheme.
6:32 remember an episode of voyager where some guys use that battleship on fighter scale
i love the breen and this ship is sick!!!
I know this comment is three years too late, but I have to say that the design of some Breen ships reminds me of old iron-sides ship. Not in design itself, but in purpose. Turned to one side; the ablative armor and minimal systems of that one side minimizes damage from head on attacks. Meaning that fighters and other things can be released from a safe bay on the reverse side; While also meaning that weapons systems on that forward facing side can hammer enemies. That's just speculation and theory though.
this Breen ship looks like the Breen just went to the junk yard and through it together, IMAO
The Breen ship does look like they just threw it together from random junkyard parts.
It has a deflector dish underneath similar to the Galaxy class, I think. from below it definately has a trek aesthetic.
Looks Blohm und Voss inspired. Asymmetrical, nicely alien and up to no good. Good ship for the Breen as well as for the series.
Never turn your back on a Breen.
+CARL EDWARDS you really shouldn't!
+CARL EDWARDS specially when he makes a circle with his fingers.........LOL.
I kind of like the asymmetrical design. Breaks up the symmetry of every other faction's designs in comparison.
I haven't read any of the books that deal with the Breen. I was thinking maybe because the lived on a frozen world they have heat vision instead of light and if you were to look at the ship through their eyes it would look really elegant and beautiful.
I always wanted the Breen to turn out to be a totally AI life form, but we never got to see what they are like.
I was, at first sight, too busy weeping to take in the design. (THEY KILLED MY SECOND-FAVORITE SHIP!!!! 😭😬😭😬)
Looking at it now... kinda nice. Different. The designer realized that starships *don't* have to be aerodynamic. As for the lack of nacelles - monies I don't have say that it doesn't even have warp drive as we know it.
And detachable parts are a possibility, but I personally doubt that. I want to say that the Federation is the only power that actually allows for detachment for escape purposes. Klingons, Romulans and Dominion ships usually fight to the death.
And stop.
Stopstopstopstop.
*Why* does a Breen warship have a Naval Construction Code number????
I remember there was a Breen episode in TNG (with the human raised by the Breen) but can not remember if they showed a ship? Might be time to re-watch the series again. lol
I always saw the Breen the most "Star Wars" of the aliens. Might be because of the helmets.
been outfit was influence by leas mercenary outfit
+rob morgan breen
the Battleship @4:50, isn't breen, its from the Voyager EP "Workforce", its the ships that the doctor disabled by firing a torpedo then detonating it with a phaser blast - Cant remember the alien race
The millennium falcon wasnt symmetrical and it worked! :)
In reality, there's probably not much practical difference between a space base and a spacecraft. It might be that a space base is just a specialized spacecraft. Thoughts?
Before we ever saw the Breen ship, we were told they used organic ships, had some sort of cloak, and disrupters. Did any of that continue into DS9? I would like to think they have a weak cloak that allowed them to get to Earth for that raid..
I was actually really into the Breen ship. It does look like something out of Stargate though.
The asymmetrical design reminds me of Kilrathi ship designs from Wings Commander 3: Heart of the Tiger. Prince Thrakhath's fighter the Bloodfang was so baddass looking and a total pain in the ass to fight, I'd sneak up on him cloaked, uncloak then unload all weapons point blank to save 5-10 minutes of dogfighting.
Damn spell check!.
Im wondering if we ever saw a class name or anything for the Breen ships on screen? I know Star Trek online has quite a few and they all have their own class names etc.
Weyoun says their home world is quite mild in temperature indicating the suites they have is not refrigeration. Seen other videos to think that they are to move water about their body as they have no circular vascular system kinda like a jellyfish and possible the suites are used so they can leave the water for extended periods of time. Thus semi or full aquatic maybe the universal translator doesn't work on them either.
Anyway i like the asymmetrical design, it is after all for space flight with no air resistance and warp travel create a bubble around it anyway.
The weird parts of the Breen ship remind me of bulet magizeins
I've just received my Breen starship from Eaglemoss. It's a weird ship. I still to be honest can't make my mind up about that. :)
Commander Cockings, John Eaves designed the Breen Warship.
When I watched it the first time I thought they came up with the design by dropping a large ring shaped model and gluing all the pieces together after sweeping them into a pile. ;) Not to say I didn't like it, I liked that it was different, not every species is going to have a sleek design.
they grow the parts for the ship with biotreknology so its a combination of different un-fitting parts
the Dorsal view of the Breen ship looks like a Alien Starbase........better than DS9.
The Universe it seems to fit in somewhat better is in my view the 'Aliens' one.
Though if you believe the Star Trek Novels view of the Breen then they have a number of diverse species forced to dress and sound alike to prevent prejudice.
So speaking 'in universe' terms the legacy influence of several races could be said to be present in the ships design... or to put it another way... It's a space ship designed by committee.
I am not fond of the assymetrical design either.
Sao Paulo a very large city in Brazil, Twelfth largest city in the world. Naming ships after cities is an old tradition.
+shinjofox I like it, very different and alien looking. Plus function over form.
Princess Leia cloned bounty hunters crossover.
The Breen ship looks like it was built by committee. It utilises an organic structure, and so quite alien you would have thought the designers wanted it too be. However rather than going completely down this route, a la Alien space jockey ship or (whispers) The Vorlons, it seems to have been squeezed into the whole Star Trek aesthetic vision. The result of this is a patchwork, hodgepodge of concepts in one model, and for this reason, doesn't really work for me.
the Breen warship looks like the Borg ship led by Lore in the TNG episode. same designer ? or kitbash.
I don't find you're reasons why it doesn't seem Star Trekish very compelling. Remember, not every vessel seen in ST carries that basic Federation design motif. You have the simple prismatic looking design of the Tholians, the cubic configuration of the Borg, the cigar shapes of the Doomsday Machine and the Probe from ST IV, etc. I love this ship and how alien it is. The first time you see it in DS 9 it's a great pan away reveal with some serious WTF vibes going on.
looks like a Stargate blew up and re coalesced.
I once saw a interview by the designer an he said he based the concept off the letter E if i remember correctly
Star trek the Magazine stated the Design was originally based on a upside down letter T.
Wicked I knew it was some kinda. letter it was based on.
I don't think it looks too bad, it's not like the Rezreth design which is pretty lousy.
i wish we sore more of the Breen, its a od ship but i do like the hole its rely alien look about it.
i fort it was bigger to.
and i do find the hole dominion been alliance very od as well cos i could not rely see the benefits for the breen,
but ,,,,,,,,, never turn your back ,,,,, on a breen .
Poor Sao Paolo city dwellers. :-( ;-)
Breen are freaky
Weak review.
Although I guess because we dont know much about the Breen it's impossible to go into too much depth.
No it's because this is not the Full episode on this ship. This is only a Mission Briefing. Where we just discuss the ship casually, without having done any prior research on it. Later we will gather all of the facts about it and do a full episode.
+PaxBritannia Weak review? If you can do better then please show us all your reviews, it is free content and you are complaining? If you don't like it then move on!
+5 internet tough guy points
Lol ok whinger
+PaxBritannia This isnt a review its just a discussion to get the ball rolling on a full episode later on. And not only that but Trekyards never do reviews on ships they are entertaining videos that are discussion shows about the ships and tech of Star Trek. Personally I really enjoy seeing their initial views about a ship before the do the research just to see the initial impressions, then when the full episode comes out you can see all the full information and even see where their thoughts may have been wrong etc. If you look at some of the full episodes where they even bring on the designers you may change your mind and enjoy the show?
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The Sao Paolo is the name of one of Brazil's most populous cities. It is NOT "kind of a dumb name" and I wish you would refrain from making uneducated remarks like that.