@@abelingaw5070 FF7 was date back in 90s, mobile phone was kind of new idea atm, not many had it, or want it, kind of piss me off when in FF7 remade/rebirth, they retcon the world and everyone and their mother running around with smartphone in hand
@@DrkShdWell tbf, FF7 has the technology during that time so its understandable. Its just during that timeline (real life) its not like that when releasing the game.
@@maestradebobobo767 Sure. Why not adopt that philosophy? After all, Gladio jerkishly spent an entire chapter blaming Noctis for that (Ignis going blind) when it wasn't even _close_ to his fault.
Because on top of smashing things with his giant rectangle sword and sucking dick for Cup Noodle, Gladio is also well-known for dabbling in the mystic art of inter-dimensional displacement.
Noctis is the most "human" person in this game. Like his actions feel the closest to a normal person, in my opinion. And that becomes interesting if you think of how his interactions with other characters be. Like how will their dynamics be?
Yeah the story was short but acturally enjoyed XV with its dark fantasy background with some realism. Found Noctis unique, relatable and how he can just conjure magical blades, dont care what others negatively say
@@GhostCodeRG Noctis is far stronger than all the gods of his universe, and Lightning is practically the maximum goddess of her universe. Meanwhile FFXVI doesn't has 'actual' gods but persons with godlike powers (eikons), the closest thing to a god in FFXVI universe is Artema.
@@illbill5904 right, FFXV and XIII dialogue was always bland and cringey to me. FFX at times was cringey too, but moments you can tell the actors were having tons of fun with their roles.
Ah Dissidia, the game that brings the Final Fantasy Multiverses together. Seeing Cloud, Noctis, Lightning and Tidus all fight together is as surreal and awesome as the final fight scene from Avengers.
@@raiga5-6-42 If there's any consolation, we still have Type-0 that legit takes place in the same Fabula Nova Crystalys continuity. Also there's Vaan (FFXII) and Ramza (FFT) that come from the same Ivalice Alliance continuity too, its nice to see some games that are connected (thanks in part to a certain 4th wall breaking travelling swordsman) even without crossovers.
@@kevinkaslana9060 yes, and their children following behind them, destroying all enemies in their path, all while being gorgeous clothing brand models lol
actually there were multiple characters that were Warriors of Light, it's just he never got a name seeing as he was one of the first characters ever made in the series so they made his official name Warrior of Light, didn't really think anyone would complain that in a 33 year old franchise there were a few characters with similar names
@@OriginalPuro I think what he means is the fact Noctis and Lightning were suppose to exist in the same Final Fantasy continuity til Noctis was revamped into a seperate continuity
This moment is the coolest thing in the entire game, the latest protagonist gets introduced by the one came before him and the very first protagonist in the series. Shame the whole game doesn't hold up after that.
"Must be Gladio's doing" AH YES OF COURSE Gladio is well known for teleporting Noct out of the car onto barren desert. That cheeky Gladio and his propensity for pranks.
Gladio was intent on teaching Noctis how to fight and survive. It wouldn't be out of character for Gladio to drop Noctis off in the middle of nowhere to see how he'd fare.
Noctis: soooo, did they cut something from your game? Lightning: ncps and towns. How about yours? Noctis: plot anche characters. Lightning: wow... Noctis: yeap... Cloud: laughs in HD drags.
From his perspective, it was like he was teleported into a fantasy cosplay. lol. (P.S: The Kingsguard are all supposed to be in black. It's actually part of the story. lol)
@@rustyshackelfurgs6823 It's something I'd wear if I wanted to be more fashion forward. Subtle but with lots of interesting accents I never would have thought of putting together.
Warrior of Light is literally my favorite character in the entire ff franchise. Ignoring the fact he was the first protagonist in the franchise, he just has something so much different than all the other characters in the games
Noctis: where the hell am I? Me: where the hell were you? You were in a white void and nonchalant about that, you show up in a desert and then you’re confused?
Noctis: So then... you're from around here? Lighting: Nah, I killed an omnipotent and eternal being and I am the cause of this plain of existence existing.
NoctisxLiterallyAnyone would be better than NoctisxLuna I remember the Terra Wars crossover for XV, can’t remember the girls name but they fit far better than Noctis and Luna, and it was the same game!
*Noctis meets lighting for the first time* Lightning: *enters and saves Noctis* Yo..I'm the previous main game before you Noctis: oh how'd your run go Lightning: hmm it was hit or miss but equally divided between hate and love how'd your run go Noctis: ....... Lightning: Oh?.....Oh..cheer up it's not our fault it's our creators at least you can redeem yourself here
@@zaxon810 its more that everyone i have seen has disliked xiii with the only aspect being the music meanwhile i've seen and heard more people that say they like the game than the opposite
Honestly, I was just happy the previous game was linked to this and they didn't give everyone a memory wipe. Seeing the protags of the games interacting with each other was lit. Seeing them REUNITING?! That always makes me smile!
I want them all to get together and tell each other their stories. Have someone like hope or prompto "sooo how do y'all know all the parts you weren't there for? "
Kind of ironic considering FFXV was originally called Final Fantasy Versus XIII. A spin of title of FFXIII and apart of the Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy Sudseries
I might be in the rare minority but I actually like lightning as Final Fantasy characters go then again the Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy was my second introduction into Final Fantasy because I started out playing a demo of Final Fantasy 8 and watching a sibling play Final Fantasy 7 when I was a little bit older and then when I started in the series I played the 13 trilogy
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I like how Noctis starts freaking out when he can’t find his phone. He really is the modern final fantasy protagonist
In comparison to Vincent (FF7) who doesn't have a phone in an advance technological era 😂😂😂😂😂
@@abelingaw5070 FF7 was date back in 90s, mobile phone was kind of new idea atm, not many had it, or want it, kind of piss me off when in FF7 remade/rebirth, they retcon the world and everyone and their mother running around with smartphone in hand
@@DrkShd Well, since they are delving into new timelines (branches) and whatnot, I guess it is possible.
@@DrkShdWell tbf, FF7 has the technology during that time so its understandable. Its just during that timeline (real life) its not like that when releasing the game.
@@merimkastrat5846 they are talking about how vincent did has phone in FF7 AC which release in 2005
Noctis has more dialogue with Lightning in this trailer than with Luna in the entire FFXV Universe.
OH SNAP
Oh... he better not get caught
I can feel the burn ! SNAP !
Luna sucks anyway.
@S2 Yes?
Classic Gladio, always teleporting me to wartorn worlds.
Classic Gladio, making me buy his favourite cup noodles
Classic Gladio, calling Noctis a pussy after his fiance dies
When in doubt, blame Gladio
Always.
You know what they say:
"Blame Gladio, blind Ignis"
@@maestradebobobo767 Sure. Why not adopt that philosophy? After all, Gladio jerkishly spent an entire chapter blaming Noctis for that (Ignis going blind) when it wasn't even _close_ to his fault.
Because on top of smashing things with his giant rectangle sword and sucking dick for Cup Noodle, Gladio is also well-known for dabbling in the mystic art of inter-dimensional displacement.
And call Dad Ignis. And ignore Prompto.
Noctis is the most "human" person in this game. Like his actions feel the closest to a normal person, in my opinion. And that becomes interesting if you think of how his interactions with other characters be. Like how will their dynamics be?
I was just about to say this, well said!
well this is his first time...while the others were summoned a trillion goddamn time sooo they just get comfy to this.
I mean... If I were in his shoes, I'd also ask how to get home or how did I end up there.
He also has a more mundane attire compared to the rest of the cast
micanikko tru but to bad the game is sht, especially the micro transactions.
Everybody else: we must stop this grave threat!!
Noctis: I JUST WANNA GO HOME!!
EnriqueLovinLife why was this comment necessary?
Yep
EnriqueLovinLife Well, I thought Noctis was a good character.
@EnriqueLovinLife 🤡
Yeah the story was short but acturally enjoyed XV with its dark fantasy background with some realism. Found Noctis unique, relatable and how he can just conjure magical blades, dont care what others negatively say
It's basically 13 versus 13
Anson Ma no, 13 versus 13. The original title and concept for XV was called Versus 13
@@monojuice And now Versus XIII is known as Verum Rex.
Sir I think it's best joke I ever heard
13 vs 13
@@aoffydosy1530 i just had feelswhen you said stella
0:21 *Suddenly falls onto the ground*
"egh?! oh."
Noctis wins the award for most normal guy here.
But yet most powerful
@@JasonDevil06 Canonically Lightning is the strongest protag even after FF16, but Noctis is definitely waaaay up there.
@@WeLoveAspecthow in the hell is she stronger than clive though? Man has gods inside of him and is a conduit to every form of power
@GhostCodeRG Probably due to her control over time n such. Godly power don't mean much if she can stop time n wax you. Clive is up there though
@@GhostCodeRG Noctis is far stronger than all the gods of his universe, and Lightning is practically the maximum goddess of her universe. Meanwhile FFXVI doesn't has 'actual' gods but persons with godlike powers (eikons), the closest thing to a god in FFXVI universe is Artema.
Noctis meets Lightning.
Noctis: Hey did you know we were supposed to be in one game together?
Lightning:
Noctis:
Lightning: Well we are now....
*laughs in stomped Fabula Nova Crystallis - Final Fantasy
They weren't never suppose to be the same game, only the same dimension/universe/world
Yu Ahri false just because his game was called final fantasy verse 13 doesn’t mean it had anything to do with the original 13
@@majahharper9 Actually It would have, sure they probably were never going to meet, but the exact same gods (Etro) were in their universe.
Weiss Schnee oh. Need to stop commenting on stuff I don’t fully know about 😶
This is what I love about the Dissidia games. Seeing all the FF characters talking to eachother.
thats why I love Opera Omnia
Pretty much Japan's Marvel Avengers but with Final Fantasy characters.
Too bad the dialogue sounds like it was written by someone who hasn't talked to another human being in 18 years.
@@illbill5904 right, FFXV and XIII dialogue was always bland and cringey to me. FFX at times was cringey too, but moments you can tell the actors were having tons of fun with their roles.
@@deviantassassin8141 It was better than this......
Ah Dissidia, the game that brings the Final Fantasy Multiverses together. Seeing Cloud, Noctis, Lightning and Tidus all fight together is as surreal and awesome as the final fight scene from Avengers.
FFXV Sasuke meets an actual useful Sakura
This comment deserves a million likes
Epic lol we need to write a final fantasy anime
lmao
Sakura is pretty useful
There is no such thing as "usefull sakura". Only "less useless sakura". And it we re out of stock on that one as well
Noctis is everyone in the Kingdom Hearts fandom
CLOud : this world portal is more confusing than the plot of kingdom hearts
how would you know
ive been there
Wouldn't be surprised if the antagonist was Master Xehanort holding the χ-blade.
Ardyn>Xehanort
*Runs away*
@@HOLDENPOPE What'd you say, punk? _(Summons incomplete χ-blade)_
@@kevinkaslana9060 *Hello there. My name is Ansem-- I mean, Xehanort-- I meant, Spiritus.*
Noctis and Lightning later went somewhere private and made several franchises and new characters together.
Lol
O.O
"Hey, you wanna Nova my Crystallis?"
Clever! 🤣😂
69 likes now ppl this is perfect now. 😏
"You're coming too"
'Don't I have a say in this?'
I mean if he wants to go home then he had no choice bruh
@@scarletrose8766 i know, but doesn't it look like he was thinking that?
Actually he does wanna thou he might have died if lightning dint save his butt sadly noctis is the new kid
@@scarletrose8766 I know all this. I was trying to joke around.
*"No, your game flopped so now you're stuck in crossover hell with the rest of us."*
Did anybody else get "Keyblade Graveyard" vibes around here...or is it just me?
not just you
Nope, I got them too
"X-blades within x-blades awaits you, noc"
omg exacly
You're not alone bro
My first reaction was "Damn, she got a bad tan!"
Edit: How did this get this many likes?
Same!
Doncha just hate it when your tan goes purple?
I was confused as well, until I saw the fake was semi-transparent. I didn't know this game existed at all! XD
@@codyknight3580 I just downloaded it on PC
@@TheBobist I'm downloading the free version on PS4 since I don't have the money to actually get it atm
Everyone: We must prepare for battle.
Noctis: I just want to know how I got here!
Me: I would've just walked away slowly.
From the warrior of light and lighting from FF13-3...have fun with that
@@grayson8633 then just warp strike tf out
U MUST FIGHT, U AIN'T GOT NO CHOICE.
Besides, u and I both know we'd follow Lightning anywhere, especially into battle!
Just me?? Okayy.
NOCTIS AND LIGHTNING ALMOST FROM THE SAME UNIVERSE
Last i checked they are. The large crystal in the crater on 15 was formed during 13.
Well XV did originated from Vs. 13
"Fabula Nova Crystalys"
Duh.
Shame XIII versus turned out to be XV
@@raiga5-6-42 If there's any consolation, we still have Type-0 that legit takes place in the same Fabula Nova Crystalys continuity.
Also there's Vaan (FFXII) and Ramza (FFT) that come from the same Ivalice Alliance continuity too, its nice to see some games that are connected (thanks in part to a certain 4th wall breaking travelling swordsman) even without crossovers.
@@lynxfresh5214 yeah, sadly there was no "subtly mentioned" proof of type-0 /Agito being in Fabula Nova Crystalis.
Or am i missing something ?
The King meets the Queen!
Queen Lightning & King of Lucis, Noctis Lucis Caelum. Wonder how their empire would run.
@@kevinkaslana9060 it would be running with many beautiful babies, summoning gun swords out of thin air
@@watyhu99 And of course, Lightning and Noctis would be leading the charge, along with Noct's friends Gladio, Prompto and Ignis.
@@kevinkaslana9060 yes, and their children following behind them, destroying all enemies in their path, all while being gorgeous clothing brand models lol
@@watyhu99 The amount of models their army would have... My god.
rip noctis getting dragged into the mess
"I like Final fantasy. Square enix very imaginative"
Has three protagonists named Warrior of Light, Lightning, and Night Light (noctis lucis)
actually there were multiple characters that were Warriors of Light, it's just he never got a name seeing as he was one of the first characters ever made in the series so they made his official name Warrior of Light, didn't really think anyone would complain that in a 33 year old franchise there were a few characters with similar names
Noctis Lucas caluem which is a pretty unique name
@@drel_underheaven908 Also, Lightning has an actual real name
@@darknessknows1235 fr lol
@@darknessknows1235 which just happens to be Light lol
when lightning came the Fabula Nova Crystallis theme shouldve played as a tribute to both of the games past
Why make a tribute to something which is sub-par?
@@OriginalPuro I think what he means is the fact Noctis and Lightning were suppose to exist in the same Final Fantasy continuity til Noctis was revamped into a seperate continuity
It would have been pretty iconic
This moment is the coolest thing in the entire game, the latest protagonist gets introduced by the one came before him and the very first protagonist in the series. Shame the whole game doesn't hold up after that.
I love the fact they are connecting all the Dissidia games.
"Must be Gladio's doing"
AH YES OF COURSE Gladio is well known for teleporting Noct out of the car onto barren desert. That cheeky Gladio and his propensity for pranks.
Gladio was intent on teaching Noctis how to fight and survive. It wouldn't be out of character for Gladio to drop Noctis off in the middle of nowhere to see how he'd fare.
Was it really Gladiolus doing that? Gladdy would never prank Noct
Facts @@awakenow7147
😂 that mischievous bastard
Poor Noct. He just wonders why he was teleported into this weird cosplay. XD
I'm surprised that lighting didn't punched noctis.
She was saving it for her closest allies
@Starlight like how her slap only reserved for Fang? :v
Notis isn’t a big mouth do nothing clown like Snow
Lightning always takes good care of the kids
@Starlight and i ll take a sin off evey single time she does
Noctis: soooo, did they cut something from your game?
Lightning: ncps and towns. How about yours?
Noctis: plot anche characters.
Lightning: wow...
Noctis: yeap...
Cloud: laughs in HD drags.
Ah so you haven't played through the game now.
Pedro Cruz-Vargas it’s still not good lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Paratil nah , best final fantasy thus far excluding the original
Off Jvlone is that a joke?
I love Lightning. 😭 She's my favorite character.
Me tooi
Me too!
Count me in too! Lightning is my favorite! Next to Noctis :D
Love Lightning too. Her and Squall (and Quistis from FFVIII) are my favorites
I shipped Noctis and Lightning together since I first saw them in trailers as a little kid...
everyone be looking like a real game characters and then there's this guy that looks like a former emo band
From his perspective, it was like he was teleported into a fantasy cosplay. lol. (P.S: The Kingsguard are all supposed to be in black. It's actually part of the story. lol)
Denise F I like the black outfits. It’s something I’d wear.
@@rustyshackelfurgs6823 It's something I'd wear if I wanted to be more fashion forward. Subtle but with lots of interesting accents I never would have thought of putting together.
@@rustyshackelfurgs6823 Same, but not something in what looked to be a full-on desert.
Looking like Australia rn
No, he looks like someone that wants to kill his brother for slaughtering his entire clan
Warrior of Light is literally my favorite character in the entire ff franchise. Ignoring the fact he was the first protagonist in the franchise, he just has something so much different than all the other characters in the games
Everyone: Noctis probably has a good time with Luna in the afterlife.
Noctis in the afterlife: 0:09
Noctis: “Who?”
Gotta love how brutally blunt Lightning is. XD
Worst birthday ever
Oh Noctis. He is confusion.
Happens in the presence of a Goddess 😂😂
confused*
Noctis getting thrown into Crossover Hell
More Lightning is always welcomed :)
I agree
Ditto
Wow, people who aren’t hating on lightning
@@tiamod Lightning doesn't deserve the hate she gets, imo. She's my favorite FF character.
Lea Axel She’s definitely in my top 3. I agree, her hate is pretty undeserved.
Warrior of Light and Lightning be like: 'WELCOME TO THE CLUB'
Noctis: where the hell am I?
Me: where the hell were you? You were in a white void and nonchalant about that, you show up in a desert and then you’re confused?
eyes closed listening to music until he fell in the sands
Noctis: *Wonders where he is*
Also Noctis: Must be Gladio’s fault
always gladio's fault.
classic gladio
Noctis: So then... you're from around here?
Lighting: Nah, I killed an omnipotent and eternal being and I am the cause of this plain of existence existing.
It’s really cool even dou their from different universes , it’s really good to see these characters from different final fantasy games interact
After witnessing their interactions within the game I honestly ship them more than what we actually got in XV
the most senior FF Hero ordering the new guy...
This feels sooooo... meta. :D
more synergy with light than with luna
Her "What's it look like?" while posing a little would make it so hard to avoid looking her up and down XD
To quote one of my favorite fighting games....
"Can't Escape From Crossing Fate"
I see what you did there
Blazblue reference??
@@eugenio3048 No shit.
Damn 3 legends meet up.
2 and a half
Is it wrong that I’m shipping Noctis and Lightning instead of Luna?
No not at all.
Lightis is love!
It's normal
I ship them too
Its just hard to ship noct and Luna since they barely have interactions.
NoctisxLiterallyAnyone would be better than NoctisxLuna
I remember the Terra Wars crossover for XV, can’t remember the girls name but they fit far better than Noctis and Luna, and it was the same game!
I love the fact, that the first thing Noctis is doing after waking up in a strange realm is asking for Ignis aka his mom, what a good boi :'D
*Noctis meets lighting for the first time*
Lightning: *enters and saves Noctis* Yo..I'm the previous main game before you
Noctis: oh how'd your run go
Lightning: hmm it was hit or miss but equally divided between hate and love how'd your run go
Noctis: .......
Lightning: Oh?.....Oh..cheer up it's not our fault it's our creators at least you can redeem yourself here
This hurts man. So true :(
Swap the names and then this will be valid
@@linamouzi6335 Hahaha funny meme.
@@zaxon810 its more that everyone i have seen has disliked xiii with the only aspect being the music meanwhile i've seen and heard more people that say they like the game than the opposite
Witcher: I hate portals.
YESSSSS I SHIP THIS SO HARD
Dabi sameeeeeee!!!!!!
Thought so as well. But are their age gap close?
Yui Nurahilyon Lightning in 13-2 She’s 21 and Noctis is 22 Since his birthday (was past Summer this year)
NoctLight lives on!! Even though Square separated their worlds!!
damn you heteros are weird
Honestly, I was just happy the previous game was linked to this and they didn't give everyone a memory wipe. Seeing the protags of the games interacting with each other was lit. Seeing them REUNITING?! That always makes me smile!
Okay but like I need them to meet Cloud
they make a great couple
They must be together in game story... love this couple so much
I always imagined lightning would end up with someone like Dante from DMC. she's serious, he's loose. they belong together
Your in thd keyblade graveyard noctis, get ready to fight some darkness
I want them all to get together and tell each other their stories. Have someone like hope or prompto "sooo how do y'all know all the parts you weren't there for? "
noctis: who re you
lighting: you re me, the opposite
noctis: huh?
Am I the only one who doesn’t think this is a Coincidence
I hope Ardyn also has his own screen time too. I wonder how both of them would react when they meet again.
Let's see if Ardyn, Caius, Kefka and Sephiroth team up.
Noct. When you get back I've got a new recipe!
Lightning and the Warrior taking on parental roles for Noct because boy cannot be left unsupervised for five seconds.
Every shippers dream come true. I still remember the days people used to ship Noct and Lightening, even though they've never met before XD
If I rembember correctly
It's around 2012
I joined the fan club in Deviantart around that time.
I hope everyone still ship them until now
They have more dialogue together now then Noctis has with Luna.
0:56 I’m getting some Final Fantasy 7 Crisis Core vibes here...
Lightning has a bond with Noctis because of her experience at babysitting idiots
I love how his first reaction to an unfamiliar situation is to call on the Mom Friend! (Ignis)
This really is th sequel to FF Dissidia 012!!!! Im so happy this game has a story!!!
I used to ship Lightis so hard before FFXV. The fact they met in Dissidia may be the only comfort my teenage self had. 😹😹
I don’t see why stop even after FFXV. That game had zero love story.
his complete and utter confusion is so adorable lol
Why can’t they just be together 😭😤💕
Romeo & Juliet
The two strongest FF characters meet
If I'm not mistaken, there where a point in the FFXV eternal development that they stated these two where suposed to be in the same game.
Noctis: "And that kids... is how I met your mother..."
I wish they used Lightning's XIII-2 outfit for this cutscene instead of her Lightning Returns design. I feel like the former is better.
R.I.P Versus XIII
If vs 13 would happen he be talking to his goddess
nocts music in the beginning 💀💀
mistaken “nice to meet you ft bonz”
The world: *is being destroyed*
Noctis: gladio
Noc and Lightning are Cloud's kids depending on what route he chose, Tifa or Aerith.
Lightning: “you’re coming too”
Noctis: “seriously?”
Lightning: “yes...s-senpai” *kohai blush*
😂 had to rip her personality apart for a second hha
Its pretty good.
Thanks xD
Sasuke - noctis
Sakura - lighting
😍
Sasusaku - lightis
Aaah my beautiful Lightning ❤️❤️
I never stopped shipping these two 😭❤️
Better than Luna and Noctis
@@Kagetora- YES
@@skymaiden16this two are actually the strongest final fantasy characters ever. It only make sense for them to be in.
I love how he immediately blames Gladio XD
Kind of ironic considering FFXV was originally called Final Fantasy Versus XIII. A spin of title of FFXIII and apart of the Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy Sudseries
omgggg I can’t believe SHE COMES BACK FOR A FOURTH TIME????? Ugh I’m so excited
Noctis should make Lightning his queen
I love that FF has different hero’s and that they made a game putting them together
It must have been forever since I've played 13 cause It sounds like a different voice actress
Nope. She's still the same voice actress :)
Must have been forever for you. She sounds exactly the same to me.
Something I've been wanting to see since FFvs13
I might be in the rare minority but I actually like lightning as Final Fantasy characters go then again the Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy was my second introduction into Final Fantasy because I started out playing a demo of Final Fantasy 8 and watching a sibling play Final Fantasy 7 when I was a little bit older and then when I started in the series I played the 13 trilogy
Noctis look like he got lost on a Cosplay Convention XD
Is this some easter egg for that tower? It's shape like a piece of the chess in kingdom heart.
hold on a second
Everyones got on their armor and shit and Noctis just rolled out of bed
Lightning and Noctis are meeting at the Keyblade Graveyard?
Thunder is amazing, i love when they team up against Sephiroh
Can we talk about what shade of lipstick warrior of light uses please? I need to know XD
I like how Noctis seems like the only normal sane one, like where the hell am I what the fuck is going on seriously?