I agree with Mr. Foley completely. could not agree more. In 2006, Pope Benedict XVI visited the Biblicum in Rome. Over lunch and seated next to Pope Benedict, a Jesuit professor from the Gregorian University (a former professor of mine and a very close friend) asked him point blank what he thought about Medjugorje. Pope Benedict answered: “Nothing miraculous is happening there. Nothing.” Many people heard his answer. As former Prefect of the Holy Office (CDF), Cardinal Ratzinger investigated and dealt with Medjugorje for years.
I am pope John ll said that Medjugorje was the most sacred place on earth! He was not able to visit because he was poor, but he met with the visionaries Well over 50 million people have been there something is happening and yes, the blessed Virgin Mary is there ! No way I can six people keep the same story over 40 years The apparations are true, and the Vatican now allows pilgrimages there
@@colleenconger5265Have you compared the locutions with those from Fatima and Lourdes? The ones from Medjugorje are repetitive blather. What an insult to Our Lady!
@@colleenconger5265 this lady said the priest instigator was a saint. He went on to have sex with a nun and marry her- many needed exorcised. They’re liars bringing demons
I had been fascinated with medugorje about 20 years ago. They sent me books with the messages. In one of the messages the Gospa mentioned all religions are the same. And I pondered it for some time. As I come from India I know about many religions. So this message troubled me. I then came to the decision that this is not good and I discarded all the books and that was it for me.
don’t waste time in non approved apparitions, they are thousands everyday, Those Church approved Apparitions are encouraging but our Catholic faith don’t need them, all we need is the the Sacraments n the Church teaching, People in Jesus time saw all the miracles Jesus performed but they were no good to them when they don’t follow Jesus teachings
@@anniewong1387 you might not need them but they may be a big help to those who are considering converting to the Catholic Church or those who have been away ( like myself) that they may draw them back.
It was the outrageous disobedience toward the bishops that did it for me. And the blasphemous inspidity of the 100,000 or so (!) messages attributed to Our Lady. It's deeply offensive to anyone who loves her.
Was at Medjugorge appx. 12 years ago and adored St. James Church. The visionaries lived in elegant mansions and drove by pilgrims in very expensive cars. Marble floors just elegant. Apparitions were like a McDonalds happy meal. Frequent and all over the place in location. Ivan was very loud and agressive at Mexican tourists that were lovely their offense took a photo during alledged vision. He was atop the mountain and yelling and I was afraid it was a posessed man was entirely shocked to hear it was a visionary.Go only for the beautiful Church and frequent rosary and ignore the visionaries for a truly holy experience. Beautiful country and mostly decent people.
@@ChristIsLord7 I understand that this was written a year ago, but if what the dmj3399 said was true, you are putting money in the pockets of ppl who are making a killing on the tourism. I have never of an "honest to God" visionary becoming wealthy on visions of Our Lady or Lord? The message here was that we needed to fast on bread and water because a horrible time is coming (since our own leader is in talks with the ppl running the globe about blocking out the sun - I would say that it right famine is coming soon!) Why aren't they concerned about it? If the above is correct - this isn't real no matter the setting. Go to Fatima, or any other place in God's creation or, give the money to a good friend who needs it in these times that are getting harder every day.
My late dad took us to see a film about it back in the 80s. Being a child I didn't take much notice of it. Done years later he said it was the devil appearing there. I never really looked into it myself, but my landlady is really into it. I said I prefer to stick with the approved ones.
My mother had the chance to travel to Medjugore free of charge due thur a good friends offer. She wisely passed, saying she wouldn’t across the Street to see these frauds.
I always felt that Medjugorje is a fraud and my suspicion was sealed after meeting one of the alleged visionary in Culver City who had a BVM apparition on demand lol
Also the priests involved disobeyed superiors repeatedly and turns out manipulated nuns and had children. Ones now a ufo cult leader who still calls himself a priest
This guy is a hack. Many miracles and conversions have come from these apparitions. The definite message of Medjugorje is prayer, fasting, and penance much like Fatima!!!
Very interesting episode. I had to order the book. I'm a JPII convert myself and Medjugorje played a small part in that. I was even present at a parish which sponsored a talk by one of the seers, I don't actually recall if she had a vision while she was there. It was rather unimpressive. Over the years my skepticism toward the alleged visions has grown.
E Michael Jones was boots on the ground in the 1980's and interviewed bishops, priests and others. He wrote a book on it and he said it was fake, people were pressured to go along with the narrative and it now makes lots of $$$$$$. As usual follow the money.
I write this with a deep sense of sadness. Two friends. much older than me, were very devout Catholics now departed (may their souls be at blessed peace in the Lords embrace) went to Medjugorije. I never heard of them enthuse about the trip. But neither did I ever hear them condemn it. Not having pushed for a decision in one direction or in another, I came to the conclusion that they, themselves, were unsure - or possibly not impressed, with their experience. This highlights for me the potential danger of innocent souls clinging to the words and warnings of visionaries. Unless the Church acknowledges and accepts private revelation, we are on unsafe ground. In many places on the internet there are daily warnings of an oncoming apocalyptic situations, End Times warnings, Three Days of Darkness and other dire prophsies. It has come down to terror by fraud, in my view. Rome needs to act quickly and decisively and make its decision on what is valid and what is not. In a word, the Holy Virgin is being hijacked to the detriment of good Catholics, so many of whom have been swept into the falsehoods of charlatans. This is not easy to write. Nor is it easy to face up to.
In 40,000 messages over 40 yrs Our Lady spoke about abortion not ONCE The visionaries say that Our Lady said medjugore is the continuation of Fatima Yet our lady has never spoke once about doing the first Saturday
Angus, the Gospa never spoke of anything. It is the same repetitive message. we have all the tools for salvation we need from Fatima, pray, rosary, confession, five first Saturdays, first Fridays, Divine Mercy. We have all we need
Actually, “our lady” answered a question with a satanic answer . She was asked at what stage of a child’s development in the womb did God give it a soul, and she replied, at four and a half months!! Satan wants us to believe this falsehood to give the go-ahead for abortion.
This is where souls are in danger, is it not? I don't know if there is a Satanic element, but uncertainty is something that eats away at faith. I say this as one where uncertainty did just that. Now I am trying to find my way back into the fold. Where I live this is not easy - no priest, no confession, no Mass. I only have the Rosary. BTW, I'm in my 80s, so long travel presents problems. And sometimes even getting to and from the shop can be a long journey on some days. I greatly enjoy Fr. Martin's books. As a very young student (not lerical) in Rome in the mid 1960s I may well have met him. I believe that I did. But It's just a short story, but sadly I don't feel free to tell it here. However it was a fun situation. Join me in a prayer for his soul. May he rest in peace.
Agree the Churches official position is not helpful. I had been a believer. What has changed me is the way the seers are living their lives. I had not really looked into what they were doing and how they were living when they weren't giving messages from above.
This echoes my sentiment about the seemingly endless dire forcasts that prphets are pouring onto the internet. My sympathy goes out to Our Lady with all the constant appearances she is nowadays required to make to satisfy propheric egos.
Recently while in prayer I felt led to research more about " the fruits" of Medg. Every sincere person who prays the rosary will be blessed BUT the Franscicans closest to the seers have been defrocked, one even excommunicated by Pope Ben 16th! One fathered a child. A group kidnapped a beat the local bishop.
Interesting post. Just wondering what is your reaction/belief about the video where one of the visionaries (I believe it was Vicka Ivankovic) reacted to an external source while in an ecstatic state and who wouldn't I would think - but then felt the need - and is documented as saying to a camera crew afterwards - that she only reacted because she thought the Mother of God was going to drop the Christ Child. I have put this point to Medjugorje proponents but it has always been dismissed. Thanks.
Yes! But die-hard Medjugore fans are completely fanatical and get even downright nasty at times if I’ve even tried to explain... I tell them sure good things may be happening there but that is desperate from whether the seers are true!
Part of the problem is the visions encouraged disobedience. Even now the priests involved repeatedly disobeyed their superiors and even sired children with nuns they manipulated.
August Queen of the Heavens, heavenly sovereign of the Angels, Thou who from the beginning received from God the power and the mission to crush the head of Satan, we humbly beseech Thee to send Your holy Legions, so that under Thy command and through Thy power, they may pursue the demons and combat them everywhere, suppress their boldness, and drive them back into the abyss. Who is like God? O good and tender Mother, Thou will always be our love and hope! O Divine Mother, send Thy Holy Angels to defend me and to drive far away from me the cruel enemy. Holy Angels and Archangels, defend us, guard us. Amen.
Fraudulent! Medjugojue disturbs me a lot. You know...Most of the time, Our Lady of Heaven briefly visited visionaries but this so-called lady appeared over 40,000 times to the so-called seers. The messages are diabolical and distort. The seers said unbaptized muslims are equal to Baptized Catholics. All religions are equal before God. And much more..
It would be helpful to intervew those who made pilgrimages: to see if they have benefitted or not from their pilgrimage. What are their "experiences", good and bad.
The faces of these "seers" look so deceitful. I don't trust any of this. And "The Queen of Peace" has made a few serious errors..like universalism, claiming all religions are good in God's (and her) eyes. And all the devotees can say is: Good Fruits! Good Fruits!
I've talked to a few people who have been there whom I regard as very devout Catholics who are convinced it is from God. At least one of them saw the sun "miracle" and was able to see the sun spinning while looking straight at the sun. I have a friend who entered the seminary after he apparently had God speak to him while there about becoming a priest. So, while the objections listed here do not seem irrelevant, and while I've had a couple quibbles of my own, it seems very tricky to come to a conclusion.
It's easy to come to a conclusion because the local bishops have condemned it many times. Common laity do not have the authority nor the discernment of spirit to decide by themselves. We are supposed to obey the Church's authority, and until there's an official statement, the bishops are the authority on the matter
I have been to Medjugorje many times ( the first time I went I had been away from the church for nearly 40 years). I am now totally back in the church , thank God. Anyway I am heading to Medjugorje this day fortnight and I am really looking forward to it. Personally I am not sure what I think of the visionaries and their apparitions, not sure if I believe that. However I do think there is something special about Medjugorje, perhaps it is so many people of the one faith all praying together. I go because I find it a spiritual week , switching off from everything, spending my days just praying, contemplating, buying more rosary beads 😂😂.
In 1994 a good friend of mine told me she was going to Medjugorje but she didn't want to go alone. I wasn't a Catholic but I told her that I'd love to go with her just for the travel experience. I wasn't sure about what was happening there so I asked the local priest in our small town for a book. He gave me a book by Wayne Weible called "Medjugorje The Message" I read it in two days. I asked for another one so he gave me "Medjugorje The Mission" I kept asking for books on the Catholic Church and couldn't stop reading. I ended up joining the Catholic Church although I never was able to travel to Medjugorje. I do believe that it's real
I could imagine one visionary committing fraud, but six for 40 years? How could they carry this off for all these years. Our Lady promised a permanent sign, we will have to wait for this. I have been to Medjugorje.
But they haven't "carried it off," because the messages are so contradictory and bizarre. And they have turned it into a huge money-making industry. The fact that a fraud has been perpetuated fior 40 years does not somehow validate it.
Aye, I too have been to Medjugorje. They don't have to do anything to keep it going for 40 years. The lack of gumption from it's followers, a little stoking here and there from it's author, the devil and away you go. If anyone of them came out tomorrow and said, "no, sorry folks we lied", you'd still believe them. You'd still be hiding behind, "let's wait to hear from the Vatican."
2:42 I was in medjugorje in 2005.my trip itself was a Miracle.how do you explain, 6 children( 1981), keeps going on up till 40years? What about the miracle of the SUN? As for me, I BELIEVE IN THIS APPARITION.only time will tell.God Bless.Today is the 31st of May 2024.After seeing a video of Vicka moved when someone poke his finger near her eyes during an estasy and later lied that she moved because she thought the baby jesus would fall fom the arms of our lady.This is the straw that broke the camel's back.I just pray for the six.since 1982, after learning from the newspapers regarding the Apparations.I am so disappointed.I will stick with Fatima,Lourdes and Akita.
How do you explain over 47,000 apparitions in a span of 40 years? Our Blessed Virgin has the virtue of silence, meaning she seldom speaks, but when she does it is of great importance and she keeps them brief, but is concise! Apparently, the messages in Medjugorje seem to be long winded, not like Our Lady of the Bible.
@@CitySlickerBallKicker Not forgetting trivial chat and giggling, and saying the lies of the "visionaries" should be forgiven. Utter lies. Our Lady of Fatima pray for us.
Coming from a non RC, this deceitful. Fraud all the way. Images have her feet covered, says all religions are acceptable? Ah NO! Not part of Christian imagery. Steer clear of these so-called seers. Doubtful and again, deceiving of those who want to follow.
Yeah, the only such documentary is "Marian Apparitions of the 20th Century" from 1991 narrated by Ricardo Montalban, but as it's from 1991 it's outdated.
But would it not be even nicer if the endless injudicious Amens and holy emojis that poor innocent souls post on the net were better informed of Catholicism and the necessities of their religion for salvation.l I mean discernment. In no way do I mean to criticise. But I am saddened that many of these seem (to me) to have been taken advantage of. Heavens know for what reason the apocalyptic poster persist in false prophecies.
Well, if you mean sedevacantism, they might accept it because if the Vatican doesn’t approve it, and they think the chair of Peter is vacant, then it must be legit because the Vatican after V2 isn’t legitimate. But I don’t think that means every person who goes to the TLM or thinks that- I go to the TLM and I’m VERY skeptical of Medjugorje.
This is an opinion only! There isn’t many more, like thousands of podcasts of daily interviews there that I watch every day, and my priest has been there and this is one of the few negative podcasts I have seen that talks negative of it. no way you could six children keep the same story for 46 years there’s just no way and count at 50 million people well over 50 million people have gone
The fact that they suffered so much persecution makes it more real. children, some from city like Mirjana her parents suffered so much and survived worse before and during last war. it is real. reparation and fasting, prayer what else could be more powerful as message.
I desperately desperately desperate ly wanted to believe it, but the messages are hollow....eventually I had to admit to myself that it just didn't add up. I believe their intentions were good but now....💰 Is the goal
How did they suffer? You can make this claim, safe in the knowledge most people don't know enough about Medjugorje to contradict you. It is absolute nonsense. They never suffered (perhaps beyond the self-made anxiety that they might get caught in a lie). The poor children at Fatima, suffered. They were threatened with boiling oil because of what they were saying. And they held true to Our Lady. The closest these clowns get to oil is when they top up the engines of their sweet rides. The only one suffering now is perhaps Our Lady Herself needing to constantly put out fires, by rewarding the faithful intentions of the pilgrims, when they could instead, have been responding to the requested Devotion of the First Five Saturdays to help realise Her Triumph. Thank you for your response to my call, they say she tells them. What call? What call has She actually made there? She made Her call in 1917. That was enough, and everything-and I mean, everything- She needs us to know was contained in those messages. Suffering indeed, these guys, legged it from Podbrudo when the police started sniffing around, hid in the church and then came out once they (and the priests who exploited them), could see the filthy lucre that could be made through it. And it didn't take long for that to start to flow. Suffered! Give me strength.
With love in Christ, desiring the salvation of all, whilst knowing that many are called but few are chosen, even of those who join the True Church, because like the eleven lepers healed by Christ only one bothers to thank him. As a sinner seeking God's Mercy, I am compelled to give a heartfelt, rebuttal, saddened by the delusion of simple people, of Fátima and Lourdes of the Romanist Papist "authorities" acceptance of them as correct and genuine, and their ambivalent failure to reject Medjugordje as false and personal erroneous public opinion of "Pope Francis" that it is genuine. Path to the one and only True Church follows for genuine lovers of the truth below. The 3 more days only of "visions", obviously not true, in 1981, control of subjects as to appearance, Ivan admitting he had faked things. Personal enrichment as well! Conversion to a false faith, Romanism, which glorified, under "Pope John Paul II" a Croatian Fascist Ustase cardinal, Stepanic, who betrayed the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and openly supported the murder of hundreds of thousands of gypsies, Jews, political opponents and most of all Serbs to the point where even the Italian fascist troops and some Germans opposed them openly and physically with disgust, describing it as worse than the Congo under Leopold. The Croatian Ustase political leadership even upbraided Hitler openly face-to-face for being far too slow in dealing with his Jewish problem in comparison with the Serbs. Church making money out of falsehood, and putting politics before truth in 1991. And money too, again in 2014 and 2021 through to now in 2022. No "infallible" statement from utterly fallible Romanist Papal heresiarch. Fátima proven to be false. See excellent ProphecyWatchers documentary on the Fátima delusion which examines the original documents which show UFO attacks, amongst other things, and even the Ancient Aliens documentaries which debunk Lourdes and Fátima completely. Only a false Church, ultimately dedicated from its head, like a fish rotting from the head, would declare obvious falsehoods to be genuine. In the case of Medjugordje, possibly, it would seem, not even the solace of potentially demonic but medically genuine healings allowed by God for some people lest they fall into worse delusion, no doubt because genuine True Orthodox (e.g. the global headquarters of the fully canonical True Orthodox Church, namely the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR) being in Serbia, then like Medjugordje, part of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, from the time of the Russian Revolutions of 1917 and subsequent civil war, until the German Invasion of 1941, as opposed to false World Orthodox Church members of the World Council of Churches, which forces, as a condition of membership, every member "church" to deny their own credal belief of one church and only one creed, and to recognise all other "churches" as equally valid, despite contradictions between their creeds which even an atheist such as Be e rejection of the New Calendar and "Ecumenism" are both essential. The eldress Helena of Georgia, who was part Greek, and who died in 1977, prophecised that, unless Greece returned to the Old Calendar it would be destroyed.The love of Christ, desiring the salvation of all, commands that the following be said: all World Council of Churches members, which includes the Moscow Patriarchate, all other Patriarchates, such as that of the West, namely the Roman Papacy, and all other official state recognised "churches", their affiliates and those in communion with them, such as all the Uniates in communion with Rome, such as the Ukrainian "Greek Catholic" "Byzantine Rite" "Church" are false churches which fall under the 1983 Anathema against Ecumenism (28/7 (church calendar)/10/8 (civil calendar)/1983).orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/ecum_anath.aspx . The Synod that issued this was Old Calendarist and formally anathematized New Calendarism in 2001, under Philaret's successor, Metropolitan Vitali, all attempts at achieving the repentance of New Calendarist synods through persuasion having failed. Here is the text of the anathema and some follow up contacts for Truthseekers: "Those who attack the Church of Christ by teaching that Christ's Church is divided into so-called "branches" which differ in doctrine and way of life, or that the Church does not exist visibly, but will be formed in the future when all "branches" or sects or denominations, and even religions will be united into one body; and who do not distinguish the priesthood and mysteries of the Church from those of the heretics, but say that the baptism and eucharist of heretics is effectual for salvation; therefore, to those who knowingly have communion with these aforementioned heretics or who advocate, disseminate, or defend their new heresy of Ecumenism under the pretext of brotherly love or the supposed unification of separated Christians, Anathema!" orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/ecum_anath.aspx The True Orthodox Church of Russia under the Omophorion of Archbishop Tikhon of Omsk and all-Siberia is in the Truth, supporting other essential anathemas, such as against Nameworshipping. It is also the first True Orthodox Synod to have formally anathematized Evolutionism (Evolutionism, including Darwinism is incompatible with Biblical Creationism and must be rejected as impossible (even in its own terms, under the laws of probability). All those listed below are "Tikhonites": Watch: 1. True Orthodox Wahre Orthodoxie channel of German layman Sebastian, based in Hamburg: th-cam.com/channels/EvWEaroNQ-v3_U_rCNxQYA.html 2. www.trueorthodoxy.eu. by Bishop Philaretos of Pallini and Western Europe. philaretos@gmail.com. Also, Read: 3. www.trueorthodoxchristianbooks.com. Email: vladmoss@aol.com. Facebook: Vladimir Moss. 4. You can also contact me and I will refer you on as necessary. I am a layman based in Portugal, and know all 3 of the above. Bishop Philaretos is my spiritual Father. My email: adriandeanwhyatt3@gmail.com. My Twitter:@adrianwhyatt. Addendum: "World Orthodox" are in communion with the "Orthodox Church of Finland" and the "Orthodox Church of Estonia", both of which are entirely based on the Western Calendar, including its Paschalion. Resulting in New Calendarists actually celebrating Easter twice if they happen to visit Estonia or Finland at the time of the Western Easter. The New Calendarists' Paschalion, their so called Reformed Julian Calendar, is set to diverge from the Old Calendar Paschalion in 2500 A.D. The New Calendar was introduced by the free mason Meletios Metaxakis. Freemasonry has been repeatedly condemned, including even as a tool of British diplomacy by the Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia in 1958. Membership or other participation in Free Masonry is totally incompatible with Christianity. Unrepentant free masons, according to the 1958 Anathema explicitly, may not receive Sacraments or even burial in the Church. The continuation of the current Old Calendarist Paschalion will depend upon the continuation of the miracle of the Holy Light as it is. Only if this changes can a change in the calendar, to accommodate this, be authorised by a properly constituted pan-Orthodox Council or an Ecumenical Synod. As happened to move the feast of the Transfiguration from a variable to a fixed feast at the 6th Ecumenical Synod. See "The Calendar Question" available for free download online. This did not happen in the 1920s period of the "Calendar change" and has not happened since. As St. Bede, writing in AD700 to AD732 in his De Temporibus (about time), pointed out, you should note the changes in astronomical time for the planting and harvesting of crops, but continue to celebrate feasts according to the Church Calendar. Written up in the secular book "The Calendar" in the 1990s. Why the but concerning an Old Calendarist video when you attend the Old Calendar, on non-Christian Ecumenism of the Vatican, Jay Dyer?
Jesus is my SAVIOUR, It would be to create confusion and disobedience o he CHURCH. Why did our lady or Gospa not mention the messages in Fatima or the need for its consecration. Why are all the seats so rich?
@@Tanya-wc8yv not true! Get your facts right. Mirjana is not at all wealthy. Where is your evidence. She lives quite modestly as does Vicka and the others.
@@avechristusrex31 they are incredibly wealthy, BMW driving, hotel owning, international superstars. I know nothing about you and mean no disrespect, but your post is typical of everyone I know who still supports this; you are not brave enough to do a deep dive. I dare you. Though, speaking from very real experience, when you do finally see what has been going on, it will hit you hard. I built my entire life around Medjugorje, having my eyes opened almost destroyed my faith.
@@bonniesammons2348 Due to the obvious ignorance of both the host and even more the guest !! I just wonder if he is drowning in ignorance or something more !! ?? Why, for a change you and other dont look at this… th-cam.com/video/oZ7C3rziPno/w-d-xo.html
@@martom2023 why do you say they are ignorant? I don’t see that at all. Eric Sammons is an excellent host and most definitely not ignorant. Do you disagree with what they say?
@@martom2023, both are wise n truthful men, ignoring or refuse to listen to the true does not change lies, beware satan is of the father of lies, dont be deceived, obey the Church, open ur heart n brain, we need faith n the teaching of the Church not miracles, stay close to God, God wl gv u the graces to see more clearly. th-cam.com/video/8FTDWY8SIX0/w-d-xo.html
I cannot believe it’s a trick of the diabolical or a big hoax. Too many miracles and conversions not to mention the vocations. This author has been writing against Medjugorje for decades- it’s clear where the interview was going.
It is one belief, made clear in one phrase "I cannot believe it's a trick", whereby the largely unknown true fruits of Medjugorje continue unabated. It is cowardly and bone-idle. I dare you, just dare you to look again. The devil is smarter than all of us, and the plans within plans, to this they still convince the cultists this has to be Our Lady. It isn't now and never has been. But at this stage, it will take a great deal of courage for you or any other believers to face up to this. You are living the message of Fatima though, aren't you? Are you?
@joseph_mta5840 Miracle of the sun, conversions, etc happen in other places that don’t have seers! I experienced the sun miracle and gold appearing on everything while in retreat at Betania II in Medway Massachusetts! There were no visionaries there, just us devout pilgrims singing and praying at the Blessed Virgin Mary grotto in the woods!
Yes miracles happen everywhere! Betania 2 is based on the apparitions of Betania, Venezuela. Maybe that’s a connection? God wouldn’t allow something demonic or a hoax for 40+ years. Too many conversions. Also Our Lady told Maria Esperanza of Betania that Medjugorje is true. It’s on the Bridge to Heaven book.
I absolutely don't believe either madjigori or garanbal!! There's several problems with both of them!! That's why the church has not approved either!!!!!
I agree with Mr. Foley completely. could not agree more. In 2006, Pope Benedict XVI visited the Biblicum in Rome. Over lunch and seated next to Pope Benedict, a Jesuit professor from the Gregorian University (a former professor of mine and a very close friend) asked him point blank what he thought about Medjugorje. Pope Benedict answered: “Nothing miraculous is happening there. Nothing.” Many people heard his answer. As former Prefect of the Holy Office (CDF), Cardinal Ratzinger investigated and dealt with Medjugorje for years.
I am pope John ll said that Medjugorje was the most sacred place on earth!
He was not able to visit because he was poor, but he met with the visionaries
Well over 50 million people have been there something is happening and yes, the blessed Virgin Mary is there !
No way I can six people keep the same story over 40 years
The apparations are true, and the Vatican now allows pilgrimages there
@@colleenconger5265Have you compared the locutions with those from Fatima and Lourdes? The ones from Medjugorje are repetitive blather. What an insult to Our Lady!
@@colleenconger5265 this lady said the priest instigator was a saint. He went on to have sex with a nun and marry her- many needed exorcised. They’re liars bringing demons
I had been fascinated with medugorje about 20 years ago. They sent me books with the messages. In one of the messages the Gospa mentioned all religions are the same. And I pondered it for some time. As I come from India I know about many religions. So this message troubled me. I then came to the decision that this is not good and I discarded all the books and that was it for me.
don’t waste time in non approved apparitions, they are thousands everyday, Those Church approved Apparitions are encouraging but our Catholic faith don’t need them, all we need is the the Sacraments n the Church teaching,
People in Jesus time saw all the miracles Jesus performed but they were no good to them when they don’t follow Jesus teachings
@@anniewong1387 you might not need them but they may be a big help to those who are considering converting to the Catholic Church or those who have been away ( like myself) that they may draw them back.
Medugorje is the biggest deception in the history of the Catholic Church. I know this from a lot of experience living there.
It was the outrageous disobedience toward the bishops that did it for me. And the blasphemous inspidity of the 100,000 or so (!) messages attributed to Our Lady. It's deeply offensive to anyone who loves her.
@@paulinewoods375 h ello Pauline. You make a point. But what of the harm caused by fraud? We cannot lightly dismiss that.
Was at Medjugorge appx. 12 years ago and adored St. James Church. The visionaries lived in elegant mansions and drove by pilgrims in very expensive cars. Marble floors just elegant. Apparitions were like a McDonalds happy meal. Frequent and all over the place in location. Ivan was very loud and agressive at Mexican tourists that were lovely their offense took a photo during alledged vision. He was atop the mountain and yelling and I was afraid it was a posessed man was entirely shocked to hear it was a visionary.Go only for the beautiful Church and frequent rosary and ignore the visionaries for a truly holy experience. Beautiful country and mostly decent people.
@@ChristIsLord7 I understand that this was written a year ago, but if what the dmj3399 said was true, you are putting money in the pockets of ppl who are making a killing on the tourism. I have never of an "honest to God" visionary becoming wealthy on visions of Our Lady or Lord? The message here was that we needed to fast on bread and water because a horrible time is coming (since our own leader is in talks with the ppl running the globe about blocking out the sun - I would say that it right famine is coming soon!) Why aren't they concerned about it? If the above is correct - this isn't real no matter the setting. Go to Fatima, or any other place in God's creation or, give the money to a good friend who needs it in these times that are getting harder every day.
Ivan has a very nasty face. I wouldn't buy a used car from him.
My late dad took us to see a film about it back in the 80s. Being a child I didn't take much notice of it. Done years later he said it was the devil appearing there. I never really looked into it myself, but my landlady is really into it. I said I prefer to stick with the approved ones.
My mother had the chance to travel to Medjugore free of charge due thur a good friends offer. She wisely passed, saying she wouldn’t across the Street to see these frauds.
Wow. May bless her
IMHO: Medjugorje has been a bunch of CONFUSION. I REJECT IT!
I always felt that Medjugorje is a fraud and my suspicion was sealed after meeting one of the alleged visionary in Culver City who had a BVM apparition on demand lol
Also the priests involved disobeyed superiors repeatedly and turns out manipulated nuns and had children. Ones now a ufo cult leader who still calls himself a priest
Same happened here in Manchester UK in the eighties it's just A racket
This guy is a hack. Many miracles and conversions have come from these apparitions. The definite message of Medjugorje is prayer, fasting, and penance much like Fatima!!!
Very interesting episode. I had to order the book. I'm a JPII convert myself and Medjugorje played a small part in that. I was even present at a parish which sponsored a talk by one of the seers, I don't actually recall if she had a vision while she was there. It was rather unimpressive. Over the years my skepticism toward the alleged visions has grown.
Excellent interview. We needed to hear the truth about Medjugorje.
Would be interesting to cover Garabandal next. It’s also a controversial apparition.
Yes please! Garabandal next
Garabandal is fraudulent.
I believe in Garabandal. We shall see. Conchita is 72 or 73.
@@billyhomeyer7414 you are NOT alone.I believe in the Garabandal Apparitions.Time will tell.
silva time already told us. It's false. Things she said didn't come true.
E Michael Jones was boots on the ground in the 1980's and interviewed bishops, priests and others. He wrote a book on it and he said it was fake, people were pressured to go along with the narrative and it now makes lots of $$$$$$. As usual follow the money.
I write this with a deep sense of sadness.
Two friends. much older than me, were very devout Catholics now departed (may their souls be at blessed peace in the Lords embrace) went to Medjugorije. I never heard of them enthuse about the trip. But neither did I ever hear them condemn it. Not having pushed for a decision in one direction or in another, I came to the conclusion that they, themselves, were unsure - or possibly not impressed, with their experience. This highlights for me the potential danger of innocent souls clinging to the words and warnings of visionaries.
Unless the Church acknowledges and accepts private revelation, we are on unsafe ground.
In many places on the internet there are daily warnings of an oncoming apocalyptic situations, End Times warnings, Three Days of Darkness and other dire prophsies. It has come down to terror by fraud, in my view. Rome needs to act quickly and decisively and make its decision on what is valid and what is not.
In a word, the Holy Virgin is being hijacked to the detriment of good Catholics, so many of whom have been swept into the falsehoods of charlatans.
This is not easy to write. Nor is it easy to face up to.
In 40,000 messages over 40 yrs Our Lady spoke about abortion not ONCE
The visionaries say that Our Lady said medjugore is the continuation of Fatima
Yet our lady has never spoke once about doing the first Saturday
Angus, the Gospa never spoke of anything. It is the same repetitive message. we have all the tools for salvation we need from Fatima, pray, rosary, confession, five first Saturdays, first Fridays, Divine Mercy. We have all we need
Actually, “our lady” answered a question with a satanic answer . She was asked at what stage of a child’s development in the womb did God give it a soul, and she replied, at four and a half months!! Satan wants us to believe this falsehood to give the go-ahead for abortion.
That’s right!!
They said a fetus gets a soul at four and a half months .
@@Estbels life begins at conception.
It’s the Jews in the Talmud that make that claim.
Yes I’m super skeptical of medjigoria. I agree with this guest.
As Father Malachi Martin said years ago...he believed it was satanic....and it is....
This is where souls are in danger, is it not? I don't know if there is a Satanic element, but uncertainty is something that eats away at faith. I say this as one where uncertainty did just that. Now I am trying to find my way back into the fold. Where I live this is not easy - no priest, no confession, no Mass. I only have the Rosary. BTW, I'm in my 80s, so long travel presents problems. And sometimes even getting to and from the shop can be a long journey on some days.
I greatly enjoy Fr. Martin's books. As a very young student (not lerical) in Rome in the mid 1960s I may well have met him. I believe that I did. But It's just a short story, but sadly I don't feel free to tell it here. However it was a fun situation.
Join me in a prayer for his soul. May he rest in peace.
Prayers for you Xotan. Try repeating ‘come Holy Spirit’ in quiet times of prayer. God bless you. 🙏
@@xotan ....🙏🙏🙏👍✌💥
@@MsDormy Thank you.
@@loarnotoole36 Thank you
Agree the Churches official position is not helpful. I had been a believer. What has changed me is the way the seers are living their lives. I had not really looked into what they were doing and how they were living when they weren't giving messages from above.
I traveled there in 1989. I don’t believe it is a true apparition.
Why? What makes you think that? I’m truly curious..I hear opposing beliefs.
My doubts were sealed when I met one of the alleged seer in Culver City, CA many years ago. He made the BVM appear on call in Culver City, Ca hmmmmmmm
We are saved by how we respond to Divine Grace, not by how well we believe in miracles.
Fake as fake can be
People have REAL Conversion in maximum security Prisons..
Good point!
Minimum rights there.. A communist cell that. 🤪
We should use it as a lesson in discernment. This will be important as false prophets and seers are released from where they come.
This echoes my sentiment about the seemingly endless dire forcasts that prphets are pouring onto the internet. My sympathy goes out to Our Lady with all the constant appearances she is nowadays required to make to satisfy propheric egos.
Either Medjugorje or Catholicism is true.
Catholicism is true.
Therefore…
Medjugorje is fake
Recently while in prayer I felt led to research more about " the fruits" of Medg. Every sincere person who prays the rosary will be blessed BUT the Franscicans closest to the seers have been defrocked, one even excommunicated by Pope Ben 16th! One fathered a child. A group kidnapped a beat the local bishop.
The seers build hotels and not Churches!
Thank you Mr. Foley 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
By the fruit you will know the tree. What are the "fruits" (lifestyle) of the Medjugorie visionaries? You are the judge.
Fraud
Interesting post. Just wondering what is your reaction/belief about the video where one of the visionaries (I believe it was Vicka Ivankovic) reacted to an external source while in an ecstatic state and who wouldn't I would think - but then felt the need - and is documented as saying to a camera crew afterwards - that she only reacted because she thought the Mother of God was going to drop the Christ Child. I have put this point to Medjugorje proponents but it has always been dismissed. Thanks.
She told that blasphemous lie, which is a mortal sin, right after one of the "visions". That should be enough to convince anyone that it's fake.
It's fake. There is so much evidence that it's a hoax.
Yes! But die-hard Medjugore fans are completely fanatical and get even downright nasty at times if I’ve even tried to explain... I tell them sure good things may be happening there but that is desperate from whether the seers are true!
Hope you cover Garabandal
I worry if the bubble is burst will the fans persevere in the faith?
Sadly...It won’t if their faith is in the seers!
Remember Lucifer likes to muddy the waters, to cast doubt and skepticism on Mother's good works.
Lucifer is the ultimate Buzzkill! 😠
Part of the problem is the visions encouraged disobedience. Even now the priests involved repeatedly disobeyed their superiors and even sired children with nuns they manipulated.
August Queen of the Heavens, heavenly sovereign of the Angels, Thou who from the beginning received from God the power and the mission to crush the head of Satan, we humbly beseech Thee to send Your holy Legions, so that under Thy command and through Thy power, they may pursue the demons and combat them everywhere, suppress their boldness, and drive them back into the abyss. Who is like God? O good and tender Mother, Thou will always be our love and hope! O Divine Mother, send Thy Holy Angels to defend me and to drive far away from me the cruel enemy. Holy Angels and Archangels, defend us, guard us. Amen.
Amen
What do you fel about the flame of love movement?
I think it's just as flimsy.
Fraudulent! Medjugojue disturbs me a lot. You know...Most of the time, Our Lady of Heaven briefly visited visionaries but this so-called lady appeared over 40,000 times to the so-called seers.
The messages are diabolical and distort. The seers said unbaptized muslims are equal to Baptized Catholics. All religions are equal before God. And much more..
So have you been? Go on experience and see if yourself.
@@colleenconger5265 his experience of going there is irrelevant to whether the apparitions are true or not
It would be helpful to intervew those who made pilgrimages: to see if they have benefitted or not from their pilgrimage. What are their "experiences", good and bad.
Look up Tom Medjugorje
He does interviews daily yeah and I have watched hundreds and they are unbelievable !!
What people experience in pilgrimages to Medj is irrelevant to whether the apparitions are true
The faces of these "seers" look so deceitful. I don't trust any of this. And "The Queen of Peace" has made a few serious errors..like universalism, claiming all religions are good in God's (and her) eyes. And all the devotees can say is: Good Fruits! Good Fruits!
I've talked to a few people who have been there whom I regard as very devout Catholics who are convinced it is from God. At least one of them saw the sun "miracle" and was able to see the sun spinning while looking straight at the sun. I have a friend who entered the seminary after he apparently had God speak to him while there about becoming a priest. So, while the objections listed here do not seem irrelevant, and while I've had a couple quibbles of my own, it seems very tricky to come to a conclusion.
Those "miracles" can easily be demonic. This is not just fraud. Satan has his finger in it.
It's easy to come to a conclusion because the local bishops have condemned it many times. Common laity do not have the authority nor the discernment of spirit to decide by themselves. We are supposed to obey the Church's authority, and until there's an official statement, the bishops are the authority on the matter
Recently, Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas visited Medjugorje.
What a pity, a good bishop visiting demon infested placed. Maybe he will realize
I have been to Medjugorje many times ( the first time I went I had been away from the church for nearly 40 years).
I am now totally back in the church , thank God.
Anyway I am heading to Medjugorje this day fortnight and I am really looking forward to it.
Personally I am not sure what I think of the visionaries and their apparitions, not sure if I believe that. However I do think there is something special about Medjugorje, perhaps it is so many people of the one faith all praying together. I go because I find it a spiritual week , switching off from everything, spending my days just praying, contemplating, buying more rosary beads 😂😂.
I have just returned from Medjugorje. I share your sentiment. Medjugorje seems to be just a meeting place of charismatic Catholics.
That's the drug you are given by the lady of Medjugorje.
In 1994 a good friend of mine told me she was going to Medjugorje but she didn't want to go alone. I wasn't a Catholic but I told her that I'd love to go with her just for the travel experience. I wasn't sure about what was happening there so I asked the local priest in our small town for a book. He gave me a book by Wayne Weible called "Medjugorje The Message" I read it in two days. I asked for another one so he gave me "Medjugorje The Mission" I kept asking for books on the Catholic Church and couldn't stop reading. I ended up joining the Catholic Church although I never was able to travel to Medjugorje. I do believe that it's real
Your sadly mistaken. This is from the devil.
Even if it's fraud, rejoicing that you became Catholic!!
God might be using even the fraudulent apparition to reach out to you, in your case. But without doubt Medjugorje is fake.
Father Malachi Martin said it was fake
Mixing truth with lies, e.g. 1981 told visions would soon stop.
But didn't. Money dominating the materialists.
Visions only limited to certain people only. What kind of loving god would not allow everyone to observe this phenomena.
I could imagine one visionary committing fraud, but six for 40 years? How could they carry this off for all these years. Our Lady promised a permanent sign, we will have to wait for this. I have been to Medjugorje.
But they haven't "carried it off," because the messages are so contradictory and bizarre. And they have turned it into a huge money-making industry. The fact that a fraud has been perpetuated fior 40 years does not somehow validate it.
Aye, I too have been to Medjugorje. They don't have to do anything to keep it going for 40 years. The lack of gumption from it's followers, a little stoking here and there from it's author, the devil and away you go.
If anyone of them came out tomorrow and said, "no, sorry folks we lied", you'd still believe them. You'd still be hiding behind, "let's wait to hear from the Vatican."
2:42 I was in medjugorje in 2005.my trip itself was a Miracle.how do you explain, 6 children( 1981), keeps going on up till 40years? What about the miracle of the SUN? As for me, I BELIEVE IN THIS APPARITION.only time will tell.God Bless.Today is the 31st of May 2024.After seeing a video of Vicka moved when someone poke his finger near her eyes during an estasy and later lied that she moved because she thought the baby jesus would fall fom the arms of our lady.This is the straw that broke the camel's back.I just pray for the six.since 1982, after learning from the newspapers regarding the Apparations.I am so disappointed.I will stick with Fatima,Lourdes and Akita.
How do you explain over 47,000 apparitions in a span of 40 years? Our Blessed Virgin has the virtue of silence, meaning she seldom speaks, but when she does it is of great importance and she keeps them brief, but is concise! Apparently, the messages in Medjugorje seem to be long winded, not like Our Lady of the Bible.
@@CitySlickerBallKicker Not forgetting trivial chat and giggling, and saying the lies of the "visionaries" should be forgiven. Utter lies. Our Lady of Fatima pray for us.
Because it's fake.
40 years is the giveaway that it is fake. Heresy to treat Our Blessed Mother like she is a monthly horoscope!
How do we explain? The devil, is the explanation. And the willing acceptance of the faithful. Millions of conversions eh? Where are they now?
Coming from a non RC, this deceitful. Fraud all the way. Images have her feet covered, says all religions are acceptable? Ah NO! Not part of Christian imagery. Steer clear of these so-called seers. Doubtful and again, deceiving of those who want to follow.
would be nice someone does a documentary on all valid apparitions maybe we should start go fund me for that
Yeah, the only such documentary is "Marian Apparitions of the 20th Century" from 1991 narrated by Ricardo Montalban, but as it's from 1991 it's outdated.
But would it not be even nicer if the endless injudicious Amens and holy emojis that poor innocent souls post on the net were better informed of Catholicism and the necessities of their religion for salvation.l I mean discernment. In no way do I mean to criticise. But I am saddened that many of these seem (to me) to have been taken advantage of. Heavens know for what reason the apocalyptic poster persist in false prophecies.
Pope John ll said it was the most spiritual place on earth……..
I’ve heard people say that Medjugorje appealed to folks who didn’t like Vatican 2 but I never understood why.
Well, if you mean sedevacantism, they might accept it because if the Vatican doesn’t approve it, and they think the chair of Peter is vacant, then it must be legit because the Vatican after V2 isn’t legitimate. But I don’t think that means every person who goes to the TLM or thinks that- I go to the TLM and I’m VERY skeptical of Medjugorje.
Error. Many Catholics I know or know of who disagree with Vatican II don't believe in Medjugorje. And vice versa, pro Vatican II, anti Medjugorje.
But it couldn't be closer to Vatican II. So they're already on a loser.
Frau-du-lent. Preformed by "The Mimic"
Now do Falsetina, I mean Faustina.
What??
Oh THAT will stir things up!
You are not required to believe any of them so stop being so disrespectful to a CANONIZED SAINT!!!
Watch ascent to mount Carmel on the errors of Faustina
What’s wrong with Faustina?
This is an opinion only!
There isn’t many more, like thousands of podcasts of daily interviews there that I watch every day, and my priest has been there and this is one of the few negative podcasts I have seen that talks negative of it. no way you could six children keep the same story for 46 years there’s just no way and count at 50 million people well over 50 million people have gone
They're not children anymore, they're now rich off this fraud. And some of the occurrences there are demonic.
Maybe it’s because the seers are not lying they see someone but maybe it’s not Our Lady
This episode or a follow up should be an exchange with Mark Miravalle.
Yes hes a mariologist, and he believes in Medjugorje.
@@theonewhomjesusloves7360 And he's composed and non combative. I'd like to see him interact with Eric Sammons or Taylor Marshall
I was there.my trip from Malaysia to Medjugorje, itself is a Miracle! I believe in this Apparition!
Alot of people believe in the Book of Mormon too, it doesn't make it real.
Catholic Las Vegas. $$$$
Solo fake!!!!!
Discuss Knock…. Magic Lantern and pathological priest?
The fact that they suffered so much persecution makes it more real. children, some from city like Mirjana her parents suffered so much and survived worse before and during last war. it is real. reparation and fasting, prayer what else could be more powerful as message.
I desperately desperately desperate ly wanted to believe it, but the messages are hollow....eventually I had to admit to myself that it just didn't add up. I believe their intentions were good but now....💰 Is the goal
@@deb9ragorton742 their intentions were never good.
How did they suffer? You can make this claim, safe in the knowledge most people don't know enough about Medjugorje to contradict you.
It is absolute nonsense. They never suffered (perhaps beyond the self-made anxiety that they might get caught in a lie). The poor children at Fatima, suffered. They were threatened with boiling oil because of what they were saying. And they held true to Our Lady. The closest these clowns get to oil is when they top up the engines of their sweet rides. The only one suffering now is perhaps Our Lady Herself needing to constantly put out fires, by rewarding the faithful intentions of the pilgrims, when they could instead, have been responding to the requested Devotion of the First Five Saturdays to help realise Her Triumph. Thank you for your response to my call, they say she tells them. What call? What call has She actually made there? She made Her call in 1917. That was enough, and everything-and I mean, everything- She needs us to know was contained in those messages.
Suffering indeed, these guys, legged it from Podbrudo when the police started sniffing around, hid in the church and then came out once they (and the priests who exploited them), could see the filthy lucre that could be made through it. And it didn't take long for that to start to flow.
Suffered! Give me strength.
With love in Christ, desiring the salvation of all, whilst knowing that many are called but few are chosen, even of those who join the True Church, because like the eleven lepers healed by Christ only one bothers to thank him. As a sinner seeking God's Mercy, I am compelled to give a heartfelt, rebuttal, saddened by the delusion of simple people, of Fátima and Lourdes of the Romanist Papist "authorities" acceptance of them as correct and genuine, and their ambivalent failure to reject Medjugordje as false and personal erroneous public opinion of "Pope Francis" that it is genuine. Path to the one and only True Church follows for genuine lovers of the truth below.
The 3 more days only of "visions", obviously not true, in 1981, control of subjects as to appearance, Ivan admitting he had faked things. Personal enrichment as well! Conversion to a false faith, Romanism, which glorified, under "Pope John Paul II" a Croatian Fascist Ustase cardinal, Stepanic, who betrayed the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and openly supported the murder of hundreds of thousands of gypsies, Jews, political opponents and most of all Serbs to the point where even the Italian fascist troops and some Germans opposed them openly and physically with disgust, describing it as worse than the Congo under Leopold. The Croatian Ustase political leadership even upbraided Hitler openly face-to-face for being far too slow in dealing with his Jewish problem in comparison with the Serbs. Church making money out of falsehood, and putting politics before truth in 1991. And money too, again in 2014 and 2021 through to now in 2022. No "infallible" statement from utterly fallible Romanist Papal heresiarch. Fátima proven to be false. See excellent ProphecyWatchers documentary on the Fátima delusion which examines the original documents which show UFO attacks, amongst other things, and even the Ancient Aliens documentaries which debunk Lourdes and Fátima completely. Only a false Church, ultimately dedicated from its head, like a fish rotting from the head, would declare obvious falsehoods to be genuine. In the case of Medjugordje, possibly, it would seem, not even the solace of potentially demonic but medically genuine healings allowed by God for some people lest they fall into worse delusion, no doubt because genuine True Orthodox (e.g. the global headquarters of the fully canonical True Orthodox Church, namely the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR) being in Serbia, then like Medjugordje, part of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, from the time of the Russian Revolutions of 1917 and subsequent civil war, until the German Invasion of 1941, as opposed to false World Orthodox Church members of the World Council of Churches, which forces, as a condition of membership, every member "church" to deny their own credal belief of one church and only one creed, and to recognise all other "churches" as equally valid, despite contradictions between their creeds which even an atheist such as Be
e rejection of the New Calendar and "Ecumenism" are both essential. The eldress Helena of Georgia, who was part Greek, and who died in 1977, prophecised that, unless Greece returned to the Old Calendar it would be destroyed.The love of Christ, desiring the salvation of all, commands that the following be said: all World Council of Churches members, which includes the Moscow Patriarchate, all other Patriarchates, such as that of the West, namely the Roman Papacy, and all other official state recognised "churches", their affiliates and those in communion with them, such as all the Uniates in communion with Rome, such as the Ukrainian "Greek Catholic" "Byzantine Rite" "Church" are false churches which fall under the 1983 Anathema against Ecumenism (28/7 (church calendar)/10/8 (civil calendar)/1983).orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/ecum_anath.aspx . The Synod that issued this was Old Calendarist and formally anathematized New Calendarism in 2001, under Philaret's successor, Metropolitan Vitali, all attempts at achieving the repentance of New Calendarist synods through persuasion having failed. Here is the text of the anathema and some follow up contacts for Truthseekers:
"Those who attack the Church of Christ by teaching that Christ's Church is divided into so-called "branches" which differ in doctrine and way of life, or that the Church does not exist visibly, but will be formed in the future when all "branches" or sects or denominations, and even religions will be united into one body; and who do not distinguish the priesthood and mysteries of the Church from those of the heretics, but say that the baptism and eucharist of heretics is effectual for salvation; therefore, to those who knowingly have communion with these aforementioned heretics or who advocate, disseminate, or defend their new heresy of Ecumenism under the pretext of brotherly love or the supposed unification of separated Christians, Anathema!" orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/ecum_anath.aspx
The True Orthodox Church of Russia under the Omophorion of Archbishop Tikhon of Omsk and all-Siberia is in the Truth, supporting other essential anathemas, such as against Nameworshipping. It is also the first True Orthodox Synod to have formally anathematized Evolutionism (Evolutionism, including Darwinism is incompatible with Biblical Creationism and must be rejected as impossible (even in its own terms, under the laws of probability).
All those listed below are "Tikhonites":
Watch: 1. True Orthodox Wahre Orthodoxie channel of German layman Sebastian, based in Hamburg: th-cam.com/channels/EvWEaroNQ-v3_U_rCNxQYA.html
2. www.trueorthodoxy.eu. by Bishop Philaretos of Pallini and Western Europe. philaretos@gmail.com.
Also,
Read:
3. www.trueorthodoxchristianbooks.com. Email: vladmoss@aol.com. Facebook: Vladimir Moss.
4. You can also contact me and I will refer you on as necessary. I am a layman based in Portugal, and know all 3 of the above. Bishop Philaretos is my spiritual Father. My email: adriandeanwhyatt3@gmail.com.
My Twitter:@adrianwhyatt.
Addendum:
"World Orthodox" are in communion with the "Orthodox Church of Finland" and the "Orthodox Church of Estonia", both of which are entirely based on the Western Calendar, including its Paschalion. Resulting in New Calendarists actually celebrating Easter twice if they happen to visit Estonia or Finland at the time of the Western Easter. The New Calendarists' Paschalion, their so called Reformed Julian Calendar, is set to diverge from the Old Calendar Paschalion in 2500 A.D. The New Calendar was introduced by the free mason Meletios Metaxakis. Freemasonry has been repeatedly condemned, including even as a tool of British diplomacy by the Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia in 1958. Membership or other participation in Free Masonry is totally incompatible with Christianity. Unrepentant free masons, according to the 1958 Anathema explicitly, may not receive Sacraments or even burial in the Church.
The continuation of the current Old Calendarist Paschalion will depend upon the continuation of the miracle of the Holy Light as it is. Only if this changes can a change in the calendar, to accommodate this, be authorised by a properly constituted pan-Orthodox Council or an Ecumenical Synod. As happened to move the feast of the Transfiguration from a variable to a fixed feast at the 6th Ecumenical Synod. See "The Calendar Question" available for free download online. This did not happen in the 1920s period of the "Calendar change" and has not happened since.
As St. Bede, writing in AD700 to AD732 in his De Temporibus (about time), pointed out, you should note the changes in astronomical time for the planting and harvesting of crops, but continue to celebrate feasts according to the Church Calendar. Written up in the secular book "The Calendar" in the 1990s.
Why the but concerning an Old Calendarist video when you attend the Old Calendar, on non-Christian Ecumenism of the Vatican, Jay Dyer?
Adrian, Pope Francis does not believe Medjugorje is true. Read what he said in 2017
TLDR
Why would satan continue to score Own Goals if it’s diabolical.
I don’t believe that Mirjana is a fake.
Jesus is my SAVIOUR,
It would be to create confusion and disobedience o he CHURCH. Why did our lady or Gospa not mention the messages in Fatima or the need for its consecration.
Why are all the seats so rich?
Seers, i.e.,
They accumulated great wealth due to the alleged apparitions. Think again please.
@@Tanya-wc8yv not true! Get your facts right. Mirjana is not at all wealthy.
Where is your evidence. She lives quite modestly as does Vicka and the others.
@@avechristusrex31 they are incredibly wealthy, BMW driving, hotel owning, international superstars. I know nothing about you and mean no disrespect, but your post is typical of everyone I know who still supports this; you are not brave enough to do a deep dive. I dare you.
Though, speaking from very real experience, when you do finally see what has been going on, it will hit you hard. I built my entire life around Medjugorje, having my eyes opened almost destroyed my faith.
Stop watching after 6 minute…
Why?
@@bonniesammons2348 Due to the obvious ignorance of both the host and even more the guest !! I just wonder if he is drowning in ignorance or something more !! ?? Why, for a change you and other dont look at this…
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@@martom2023 why do you say they are ignorant? I don’t see that at all. Eric Sammons is an excellent host and most definitely not ignorant. Do you disagree with what they say?
@@martom2023, both are wise n truthful men, ignoring or refuse to listen to the true does not change lies, beware satan is of the father of lies, dont be deceived, obey the Church, open ur heart n brain, we need faith n the teaching of the Church not miracles, stay close to God, God wl gv u the graces to see more clearly.
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And there, in a nutshell is the reason why Medjugorje still exists. The followers will not take the Red Pill.
I cannot believe it’s a trick of the diabolical or a big hoax. Too many miracles and conversions not to mention the vocations. This author has been writing against Medjugorje for decades- it’s clear where the interview was going.
satan can perform Miracles too
It is one belief, made clear in one phrase "I cannot believe it's a trick", whereby the largely unknown true fruits of Medjugorje continue unabated.
It is cowardly and bone-idle. I dare you, just dare you to look again. The devil is smarter than all of us, and the plans within plans, to this they still convince the cultists this has to be Our Lady.
It isn't now and never has been. But at this stage, it will take a great deal of courage for you or any other believers to face up to this.
You are living the message of Fatima though, aren't you? Are you?
@joseph_mta5840
Miracle of the sun, conversions, etc happen in other places that don’t have seers! I experienced the sun miracle and gold appearing on everything while in retreat at Betania II in Medway Massachusetts! There were no visionaries there, just us devout pilgrims singing and praying at the Blessed Virgin Mary grotto in the woods!
Yes miracles happen everywhere! Betania 2 is based on the apparitions of Betania, Venezuela. Maybe that’s a connection? God wouldn’t allow something demonic or a hoax for 40+ years. Too many conversions. Also Our Lady told Maria Esperanza of Betania that Medjugorje is true. It’s on the Bridge to Heaven book.
@@msj5885 don't give satan so much credit.
I absolutely don't believe either madjigori or garanbal!! There's several problems with both of them!!
That's why the church has not approved either!!!!!