Cymbidium Treatment Day | Bringing Outdoor Orchids Inside, Spider Mite Treatment & Semi-Hydro Update
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- Hi everyone, it's Annabel, welcome back to my channel! Today we are repotting three Cymbidium orchids, from semi-hydro, to semi-hydro. We are attempting a final spider mite treatment before bringing the orchids inside, to live in the conservatory,
I removed them from their pots prior to the house move, so they have been sat with their roots wrapped in plastic bags for a couple of weeks at the point of this video. Finally got round to doing an intense treatment and repot session, and editing the video together, which has been waiting for a few months. I've included an update at the end of this video, one advantage to taking so long to edit things! Think we have a few spikes. Hope you enjoy the video 🙂
Info video on my Outdoor Greenhouse, where they lived at the old house for a few years: • The Outdoor Orchids | ...
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Summary Videos- Me as a Grower
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Semi-Hydro Overview & Modifications, dry layer fixes: • Let's Talk: Semi Hydro...
Inorganic Media:
• Inorganic Media Tests ... (Part 1)
• Media Tests Round 2 | ... (Part 2, refined)
Watering & Fertilising:
Short routine: • My Weekly Watering Rou...
Long, detailed nutrient mixes, pH adjusting: • Let's Talk Orchid Fert...
Phalaenopsis Advanced Care: • Let's Talk: Phalaenops...
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Instagram: / the.orchid.room
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❀ My Orchid Room ❀
UK Conservatory
Temps- 18-35C
Humidity 30-90% (high if it's raining outside, low if warm)
Natural light in summer, LEDs in winter
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✩ Plant Products I Use & Love ✩
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❀ Inorganic Media ❀
RHS Alpine Horticultural grit or washed gravel- pebble top layer
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Seramis : amzn.to/2QdyP59 or bit.ly/2V90RSJ (cheaper)
Perlite
❃ Organic media ❃
Sphagnum- Besgrow
Orchiata bark
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💧Water & Nutrients🌱
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Rain Mix:
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Seaweed: Maxicrop: amzn.to/2VbQ0rv Or Envii: amzn.to/3fZ1bek
Magnesium
Quick Watering Day video: • My Weekly Watering Rou... (Short)
My Watering / Fertilising Routine: • Let's Talk Orchid Fert... (Full, detailed, long)
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🐛Pest Control🐛
Pink Sun Neem Oil/Soap duo: amzn.to/39qyPam
Systemic insecticide Bug Clear Ultra (5g/l Acetamiprid):
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#Cymbidium #Repot #Orchids
Lots of good 'things' growing between those cymbidium growths 🤩 massive undertaking ... great job 👍🏼
Thankyou Nina! I like the cymbs much more now that they aren't forever infested with mites 🤣 You know when plants just make you despair? So I mostly avoided them before 😆🤦♀️ Not for small spaces!
This is by far my inspiration for repotting the cymbidium I have got from the orchid nursery as my christmass gift.
yay! Cymbidiums! can't wait to see these bloom! good luck
Those were some massive Cymbidiums!So bushy 🤩
We learn alot from growing plants. Thanks for information.🤗
great update on the Cymbidiums.
Thankyou Norman 🙂❤
Wow, they seem pretty happy now!
They'r looks much better after spa treatment.that exactly how I treated my cymbidium.you are so lucky getting so many spikes.happy growing.
Interesting, useful.☑️
Thanks Helen 🙂💗
You did a great job with those, they are HUGE!!! Looks like pots of spikes to me!!! :)
I hope so Wanda!! Thankyou 😀💗
They look great and I can't wait to see them in bloom!! My Cymbidiums are not looking great, unfortunately, I couldn't see any spidermites, but I will treat them, just to make sure.
Have a wonderful weekend!! 😊
I potted up a small cymbidium division into a gritty lithophytic mix, but with lots of small finer material to hold a little more water.
Sounds good, if there isn't a water reservoir you will need to water very often 🙂
Orchids plant need drain well .
Excellent work.
Those are some Giant of Orchids isn't it?
omg they're such big boys 🙉
Wow they look amazing Annabel 😊. Massive plants and that looked like quite a mission lol.
I hope the spider mites have been well and truly evicted now and I'm sure the plants will thrive after their lovely spa 😁.
I'd love to get blooms on my cymbidium erythrostylum but I guess patience is a virtue with orchids lol. It's blooming size but taking its time! You mentioned yellowing on yours. Mine is looking a little bit on the yellow side but I'm not sure if it's due to getting some quite direct but weak winter sun for a few hours or some sort of deficiency. The roots are right down in the pot so all looks healthy there but the leaves I'm not so sure about. I'm wondering if I should move it so it's not getting any direct sun at all as I believe it's a cool grower but they like good light! It's so hard to know what to do lol.
Roots are fine.
Agree 💯 with being careful with the neem oil ratios. I've been having issues with spider mites and got overzealous with the neem oil on a cattleya once and it turned the leaf brown.
Its something I think alot of people don't realise, until they've also made the mistake themselves! I had a lovely huge vanda that I destroyed. It did try and grow some new leaves from the crown but it lost about 3ft of leaves from the stem, I was gutted. Then tried chopping the stem as I had over 3ft of bare stem between the roots and the 3 or 4 of new leaves it made. It didn't work, so I was just a terrible grower there! 😥
Great video. I was happy to see you using semi-hydro for cymbidium because I've always been told you can't use it because they are terrestrial. I'm going to try it with mine. Yes I do think they are spikes. Can you show us your bird some time please?
Spraying some black tea helps, bugs don't like the taste...learned that from Pintrest bless 'em.
Hi Annabel I like to grow my cymbidiums in S/H also I seem to be very successful using purely lava rock it's cheaper than filling up a big pot with Leca or hydroton which is available to me here... Being that I live in Las Vegas I don't have the luxury of growing any of my orchids outside..
My greenhouse kit is being built in Canada . It won't ship till January. The concrete pad is ready I can't wait till I get it all together...
Those are what I would call huge orchids. Looking forward to seeing the progress of the spikes and their blooms. Amazing re pot. They seem to still love their growing medium and they look so green and lush. Enjoy them and have a wonderful day.
Hi! I miss your content on TH-cam! Great video, here. I just got my first cymbidium and I’m absorbing all the info I can. How have these guys fared since this treatment/video? Wish you well!
Hi Annabel, hope you're well. Just got an Asian cymbidium and watching this video. How does the aquarium media is working for you?did your cymbidium flowered for you this year? Do you have Asian cymbidium?
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This is something I have been putting off for ageeees. I am always finding excuses not to do it. I bet that bath cleanup was nice after 😂I can't tell you how many times I have clogged the bathtub doing something similar 🙈 But it really can't be done any other way! I found that dish soap does really well against spider mites unless they are red spider mites. I also had an oil mishap. I read in one group that people use much higher concentrations than I do, and even professional growers, so I was like, what the heck, I might as well try it. I think I killed about 10 peperomias in one go. Never again. I had to wash everything again in a couple of days because the oil wouldn't evaporate. Now I am using paraffin oil and it seems to evaporate much faster.
Omg the perlite mess in the bathtub was horrific. I'm not sure if I edited it out but I collected it in a plastic bag. Luckily leca had collected in the plughole and acted as a filter, so no perlite went down the drain. Horrific, but I'd been fighting mites for so long there really wasn't another way I think. Also the amount of dead earwigs that were floating in the tub after was disgusting! I know they arent harmful to plants, but I also don't want them in the house. They used to love my greenhouse for some reason, they would get stuck in the corrugated pvc panes with no chance of ever getting out. I think many people have made the too much oil mistake at some point, It's horrible to see as by the time you realise it's already done the damage. Poor vanda and peperomias!
@@TheOrchidRoom Oh I hate when I see bugs on my plants, even when they are not harmful. And I definitely don't want them in my house 😂 So I would do the same. In fact, I will do the same, one day I decide to actually repot my Cymbidiums 😂 I am not sure my bathtub would be so clean though, in my case something always ends up in the drain. I am helpless xD Unfortunately, you are right. I often realize the mistake only after I made it and I hate watching the outcome of that.
I've been transitioning over to self watering semi-hydro (seriously we should just call this 'SWaSH') over the course of this year. I have to say it's significantly better for me, most of my orchids have loved it, it fits in better with my (lack of) watering routine.
Having said that it seems as if my local IKEA isn't stocking LECA ('Odla') anymore either (in addition to those 50p pots). *grumpyface*
Hello!!🌸Thank you so much for such a nice sharing!! Very beautiful cymbidiums plants!! Please, if it’s possible, let me know where can I buy or order cymbidium in UK 🇬🇧?? Thank you very much!!🌸🌸🌸
Hi! Lots of places sell them in the UK. I picked 2 of these up in garden centres over the years, and the third at Burnham as mentioned. Spicesotic plants on eBay also always has lots! They are very easy to find 🙂
@@TheOrchidRoom Thank you so much!💖
@@svdahlia9597 McBeans orchids specialise in Cymbidiums too.
I have problems with spider mite on my cymbidium too..I use neem oil and soap. It seem we can't kill them all keep coming back..😭😭
Where to get lacker or cymbidium mixed
Spider Mites
hi Annabel may I ask what kind of leca you are using I cant seem to find the round clay balls only the pebbles which are grey in colour ?
Hi Steve! No problem, here is the link-
LECA - Canna Aqua Brand: amzn.to/2Z5sPPy
I try to link products I use regularly in the description box, so if you want a more comprehensive list you can also check there 🙂
Updates on these guys?
I hear you say at 4.20 that the Cymbidiums are terrestrial or lithophytic. Here in Australia we have 3 different species and they are all epiphytes. Silly me. Here I was thinking that all Cymbidiums were epiphytes because our local ones were. I hope you have a nice flowering from your Cymbidiums.
Thankyou for your comment! I tentatively said I *think* most species are- and the majority of cymbidium species are located in higher elevations throughout Asian countries, and those appear to be mainly terrestrial and occasionally epiphytic or lithophytic. You would need to look up each species individually to get a good demographic and list which ones were epiphytic, lithophytic or terrestrial. I believe the majority are terrestrial, but without doing the research myself I couldn't state that. It is a commonly referenced "fact" that I haven't had the time to thoroughly research, and this wasn't supposed to be a tutorial, background or care video, just me bathing my cymbs for winter indoors. My hybrids are NoIDs with probably a mix of Asian and Australian species in the background, and certainly grow well when treated as terrestrial rather than epiphytes.
Wouldn't it be nice to put in laundry machine 😂😂😂😂
Annabelle please can you tell me what the aquarium substrate is you used I too have run out of Leca
It is this, but obviously isn't a replacement for LECA, it's a totally different product and purpose. Suited more for terrestrial orchids - amzn.to/2HY8Yy0
Thank you x
Annabel, would you please link the substrate that you are trialing.
~ Thanks 💕
Hi! It's this - amzn.to/2HY8Yy0 , not sure if the exact product is available worldwide- but it's such a widely used type of product, I'm sure there are other near identical brands!
@@TheOrchidRoom _ Thanks so much!!!💕
No problem! (I typed this and it autocorrected to nonproliferation 😂 I almost left it 😂 )
@@TheOrchidRoom _ I've been looking at similar product via the Amazon aquarium category. Interesting products out there. Your product and pricing is a bargain to what I'm finding here.
I might stop by my aquarium store and see what they have. Their pricing is actually better on some items than what I can find on Amazon.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
greetings from Ukraine🇺🇦!
How do these giants feel now?
Orchids - Cymbidium orchids need drain well.
Not good ideas to put big rocks inside the pot .
Excellent video, the spikes wow, that made me smile 😁😁😁. Good job on killing the spidermites👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thankyou! And thankyou for giving me the push to get my act together with editing the video 🙂 💗
@@TheOrchidRoom You are so welcome, glad to be of some help to you for once. You help me all the time maybe without you realizing it, but yeah it’s true 😄
@@TheOrchidRoom So when you put out this video I immediately brought my 3 Cymbidium inside and repotted them 2 in SH and one in coco bark. I wanted to see how they will do and compare. So it’s now 10 days later and I see in all three new pointy growth. Don’t know if they’re leaves or spikes yet. It’s my first time growing Cymbidiums so we’ll see 🤗
That's a great idea to compare the two methods to find the best one for you! I hope all three do amazingly! 🤗
Bleach! Bleach kills all bugs and doesn't seems to bother the orchid if it's well watered before-hand.
Did they rot? Sorry, I can't see this turned out well.
Nope, they did very well, you can see an update later on. They're all flowering right now. Not sure why you would think they would have rotted- if you will notice, I even included an update after a few months at the end of this video 🤷♀️😅 If you don't want to watch the full video, the update is at 17:00
I see those fat spikes getting stuck inbetween the bulbs pretty often, but I never had one that decided to grow into the mother plant🤔. For me, they just push through by adjusting their thickness to the avaiable space most of the times (like an Octopus going through an insanely small hole). I've heard of that problem in a forum once and it seemed to be caused by uneven light exposure (plant on Windowsill). What is your trick to get these to flower? For me, it is "agressive" fertilising/watering in spring and summer followed by a drier period with no fertilizer in autumn until the spikes emerge.
"I don't have enough leca"
What? You ran out of leca? Aren't you the person that had like three stacking containers full of it? 😛
I liked how you changed clothes there. You went from the blouse with leggings to, what appears to be, footed pyjamas.
Yup 🤣 This was around a time I had loads of repots to do! I ordered a 40L bag, thought I had plenty, then used half for some repots and realised each Cymbidium pot I'd bought needed 20L 😆🤦♀️
Yeah you saw a full days clothes here 🤣 I started the Cymbidium bath when I got home from work, but I never stay in work clothes at home, just because we have to walk through bits of the hospital (only for lab access, nothing patient related). Never know what you're picking up though, especially now! And I love a good pair of fluffy socks, Pyjamas are my life 🤣