Raspberry Pi's 1970s Predecessor: Building a KIM-1 Replica

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  • @tiemanowo
    @tiemanowo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This amazes me how easy nowadays is to get small batches of PCBs for hobbyists. 10 years ago it was like: "How much do You need? 1000?"

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It really is so much easier now!

  • @robertpatrick3350
    @robertpatrick3350 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bravo, I remember using these and A PET in engineering college in the early 80’s.

  • @polymatt
    @polymatt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was so much fun! “… so you can skip ahead if you hate art.” 😂 and seriously loving the soldering montage music.

  • @martsmiscmix
    @martsmiscmix 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I suspect that you expended quite a lot of effort (maybe the Understatement of the Year) making this video, but anyway the result certainly pushed my buttons!
    Quite possibly your "best ever"! (.... and in case you were wondering, I regard that as a pretty high bar!)

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for noticing! I put a lot of effort into this one. I really wanted to do the subject justice, and let people know about David's amazing work. Also - Donkeys!

  • @loudscotsbloke
    @loudscotsbloke 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Lee. Absolutely brilliant vid as always mate. I have a few of Dave's kits. The man is a wizard! The kits are fantastic. I didnt know about the Asteroid game!! I now have it and I am playing it on my KIM-1 as I type (well... not ACTUALLY as I type... but.. you know.). I'll be at RetroFest @ Cambridge in Nov showing 'Toggles to Keyboards'.. come and say hello! 👍

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looking forward to November! Cheers Roy :D

  • @moormoor4281
    @moormoor4281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanking you most kindly

  • @SobieRobie
    @SobieRobie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting project! BTW you are doing real progress in video making! :)

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Working hard on levelling up :D

  • @cherrymountains72
    @cherrymountains72 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very fun, good comedic timing. Much appreciated! It makes watching interesting retro stuff enjoyable without toe-curling awkwardness! Well done!

  • @RetrogradeScene
    @RetrogradeScene 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really want one of those Kim 1 kits now! Great job, and it looks like you'll be taking over ebay for the day!!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      eBay is mine now you f%$ks! 🤣

  • @0xTJ
    @0xTJ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had lots of fun watching this video! The cool build with the music playing made it really a joy to watch.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Thomas! That really made me smile :D

  • @iiidiy
    @iiidiy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeing each step, and even each joint, makes it feel like we're building the kit right along with you! Nice work :)

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It feels right doing it this way :D

  • @RetroBytesUK
    @RetroBytesUK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love Dave's kits, I still feel guilty I've not built my kim-1 yet.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll build it for you John! 😀

    • @Daveyk021
      @Daveyk021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where do you find them at?

    • @Gattancha
      @Gattancha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Having seen some of his soldering, that may be a good idea ;-)

  • @PhilR0gers
    @PhilR0gers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember the KIM-1 from my teens. It was one of the first candidates on my list for buying a hobbyist computer. It never happened though. I bought a Tangerine Microtan 65 kit instead.

  • @Rockythefishman
    @Rockythefishman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video mat , loved the soldering montages. Crazy to think the KIM is the granddad of as many machines I love

  • @bobbus_74
    @bobbus_74 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A proper quirky little vintage electronics video if ever I saw one. Great stuff.

  • @JamiesHackShack
    @JamiesHackShack 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fantastic build Lee! I love this kit from "TripleD". I've had one, in the box, for I'm embarrassed to say how long. I really need to get it built. I may also need to check out this errata for the segmented led brightness. If you get time (which I doubt ha!) check out Jim Butterfield's lunar lander program for it. It's pretty neato to play on the keypad/display. Looking forward to seeing how the fundraising goes. If last year is any indication I bet things will smash through the roof and there will be donkey's all around! Take care!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheers Jamie! Hope you're right 😆

    • @DevilishDesign
      @DevilishDesign 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The resistors are only a problem if you have the MAN71 or MAN72 LED displays. If you have the VAOS ones (Almost all kits sold) it's not an issue.

    • @JamiesHackShack
      @JamiesHackShack 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DevilishDesign Got it! Thanks sir.

  • @WhatHoSnorkers
    @WhatHoSnorkers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic work Lee!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Many thanks Snorkers! :D

  • @GlassTTY
    @GlassTTY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Lee, nice vid as always. I too have one of Dave's kits and also thanks to Dave, I now have an original one too. All being well, they'll be side by side along with one of Daves KIMSI replicas at this tears Retrofest at Cambridge, hopefully, we'll get to chat then, take care. J.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looking forward to it! Make sure you collar me :D

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow! I clicked so fast. I'm glad the algorithm recommended this to me. My dad was a child when the KIM-1 came out and my grandfather got him one. Edit: my grandfather later got him a TRS-80 Model I, and become a Z80 fan.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im glad you found this! A lovely lineage :D

  • @RetroJack
    @RetroJack 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your solder cones are so perfectly formed, I despair looking at them! Never mind - one day, I'll get good!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right solder and a good iron. You'll get there!

  • @frogandspanner
    @frogandspanner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have an Intersil single board computer using a 6100 chip that used the PDP-8 instruction set.

    • @phill6859
      @phill6859 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, there were lots of single board computers before the Kim 1

  • @envoycdx
    @envoycdx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Waste not, want not" in reference to bluetape and bluetak ;) landfills are full enough.
    Nice build so far! 23:54 in :)

  • @Blufftek
    @Blufftek 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brings back memories of the eighties when I made the Elektor Junior, which was based on the KIM-1. It started off as a single board (the cassette interface came later) so any program entered was lost when it powered down.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now I want an Elektor Junior! It looks amazing!

    • @Blufftek
      @Blufftek 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt My greatest achievement (probably my only achievement) on the Elektor Junior was my implementation of fig-FORTH.

  • @projectfanboy
    @projectfanboy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    More fun making it hard mode, that must be how they did it in the 70s, just had a board and map no wonder factory fresh machines had so many bodge wires

  • @TechMadeEasyUK
    @TechMadeEasyUK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this, and it may have unlocked a core memory; I think I programmed one of these to teach me about machine code at college…. Maybe.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's amazing! Now I insist you go see a hypnotist to reveal the whole memory!

  • @KAPTKipper
    @KAPTKipper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The SYM-1 is a good clone of the KIM-1, simpler voltage requirements.

  • @rimmersbryggeri
    @rimmersbryggeri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought it was strange that all the transistor holes had square pads. If they had square pins only for the negative leads it would have taken some of the guesswork out of it for you.

  • @steveparkes
    @steveparkes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That asteroids is great. You're right it would have been amazing to type this in a play it at home back in the day.

  • @Nukle0n
    @Nukle0n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was a grotty Raspberry Pi transparent PNG you got for this 🤣

  • @phirenz
    @phirenz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would probably be possible to create a temporary solder mask, and then clean it off with alcohol after soldering. Would make soldering a lot easier, without ruining the authentic look.

  • @markboz3366
    @markboz3366 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love a soldering montage although I do prefer a desoldering montage.
    It's the buzz of the sucker that gets me.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We all love a good moo

  • @phill6859
    @phill6859 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kim-1 was sold by MOS before commodore bought them, its not really a commodore product. It was also sold by Rockwell.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Commodore sold the KIM-1 with their company name on the board. I'm not sure how that makes it not a Commodore product?

  • @KomradeMikhail
    @KomradeMikhail 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is that Apple 1 *replica* seriously behind two layers of security glass ??? 2:27

  • @ctid107
    @ctid107 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Loading a program ???? What a cop out, type that hex in manually for the full experience. I had the Elektor Junior back then which was similar, though it did have supporting magazine articles which helped.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did have a play with this, but the input method resulted in so much swearing I had to cut it all out 😆

  • @idahofur
    @idahofur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't remember what video I was watching. But, I never realized it would just plug into a back plane and work like a normal computer. For some reason I was stuck in my mind it was keypad or nothing.

  • @Bob-1802
    @Bob-1802 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it a 6502 or a 65C02 in this kit? I couldn't see. I could only read one 6532 RAM/timer chip.

  • @JohnDoe-qg6hm
    @JohnDoe-qg6hm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Guys, Any one able to advise where these kits are available from ? Or are they now Sold Out ?

    • @DevilishDesign
      @DevilishDesign 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Currently putting some more kits together and they should be available shortly after the charity auction. They will be on green PCBs though, not fancy purple ones 😉

    • @JohnDoe-qg6hm
      @JohnDoe-qg6hm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DevilishDesign Still Cool. Any info on approximate cost of full kit and postage ?

  • @Nukle0n
    @Nukle0n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Transistors aren't passives but I believe they fall in under "jellybean logic"

  • @Daveyk021
    @Daveyk021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where does one find these kits at?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm told they will be available to buy on the eBay store linked in the description after the charity auctions.

    • @Daveyk021
      @Daveyk021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt
      Devilish Design eBay ?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Daveyk021 that's the one

    • @Daveyk021
      @Daveyk021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MoreFunMakingIt I can appreciate the charity, but I want a full kit to build myself. I think for the ones the charity will be selling are only blank boards? By the time one ordered all the individual parts, and extras, one would probably spend more than just buying a complete kit. The complete kit is convenient. When is the auction? Thank you for the information. No hurry, I have a Mega 65 that just arrived the day before yesterday, I have to play with too. lol

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Commodore 8-bit prototype.

  • @proteque
    @proteque 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great music! Not sure I like this computer stuff though! It will never take on!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Next episode will just be me singing acapella

    • @proteque
      @proteque 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt I am ready!

  • @domramsey
    @domramsey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is cool, but I'm going to be that guy and say there are several more Commodore micro computers that you don't have. In fact, there's probably more models that you don't have than you do. This isn't a dig, just a reason to explore the real depth of some of the weird and wonderful lesser-known machines Commodore made!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would be interested to hear which ones I've missed?
      Bear in mind the criteria is commodore micros between the KIM-1 and the Amiga 1200. No big box, and no prototypes.

    • @domramsey
      @domramsey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Ah Ok, so you have some more criteria, that's fair. You've still got the 116, the VIC-1001 and the B128 and its variants. Obviously there's several variations of the C64, some which had their own model numbers (C64G for instance). And you could also split hairs and argue that the Chessmate is a variant of the KIM-1. (Ok maybe I'm clutching at straws now!)

    • @phill6859
      @phill6859 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@domramseythe p500 is a favourite of mine. It's the colour pet that jack always wanted to kill the apple 2 but was too expensive and difficult to program

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's more having to be realistic about what I could afford or what others could donate. Super rare machines are never going to be part of this. But we still have a very comprehensive list of machines that were widely available

    • @domramsey
      @domramsey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt I just sold one of my Max Machines (with a fault) for £300, so they're not entirely unobtainium. But I do understand and appreciate how hard you work on this stuff too!

  • @electronash
    @electronash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bench Leeeeee... if living is without youuuu....
    (sorry)

  • @christopherneufelt8971
    @christopherneufelt8971 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yes, I have heard about Apple! It was a fruit company that now belongs to magnate trillionaire Forest Gump.

  • @RetroBytesUK
    @RetroBytesUK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😂

  • @RachaelSA
    @RachaelSA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fifteen thousand pounds for donkeys? I'm in africa and I can get you between 500 and 1000 donkeys for that price....

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣

    • @RachaelSA
      @RachaelSA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Wait, my math was wrong, GBP 15000 will only get you 116 foals.

  • @christinehughes6360
    @christinehughes6360 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't need a Replica. I have a Real 1970s Kim-1!

  • @lm4278
    @lm4278 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep practicing your soldering... It was pretty rough. Try using some flux on the regular parts also. Not knocking on you, just a friendly tip.