Thanks for watching! We did make a slight error in this deck tech - Elemental Resonance doesn't work the way that I thought it did because you are still the aura's controller, so you get the mana. That makes it a much less good piece, but you can replace it with some kind of mana ramp or another mana sink. Everything else works as intended though! - Peter
Cool deck. Elemental Resonance would add mana to your pool though, not an opponents. You still control the enchantment even if it’s attached to an opponent’s permanent
A thing to note about war's toll. It is effectively a "may' ability. As you are the one tapping the mana, but they then in response can tap the lands for their mana. But your opponent might decide to not do that. So they tap the 3 mana they need for the spell, then just let you tap all their lands. They don't get burned, but ensure your opponents never have standing mana to mess with you is a potent effect.
I love this commander, it's the kind of design I really enjoy! Your deck techs are always on point, but may i suggest Scavenging Ooze for this one, maybe instead of Klothys? It's a mana sink, life-gainer, graveyard-hate piece, that easily grows into a threat with all of your green mana. It doesn't trigger enchantresses, though. But if that's a matter of concern, Tymaret, Chosen by Death does.
I'm pretty sure this combo also works. (Yurlok + Seeker of Skybreak + Rings of Brighthearth) Spend one mana to activate Yurlok and produce BRG, tap Seeker and use two of that mana to copy Seeker's untap ability with Rings to untap both Seeker and Yurlok. You now have that remaining 1 mana to start the process over again. Repeat until your opponents have a million mana in their pools.
ashaya might be fun if you have creature tutoring. add in argothian elder and leyweaver to tap and untap yurlock and itself since they count as forests to generate infinite aman and utaps. just have a mana sink ready. in regards to mana sinks some of them had too high of a mana cost to sink so i'd try to stick with 1-3 mana ones since you can probably do cooler things with 4 plus mana. I went with nylea keen eyed and erebos god of the dead(which i like better than vortex so i can gain life off of exquisite blood). But i like your enchantress idea i may swap out some punish creatures left over from my Klothys group slug that i'm building into this. be careful with too many mana gifting effects they can use on their turn a few early plays I just helped them get to board states i couldn't handle.
I was considering building this, and then I realized what an incredible pain in the ass keeping track of 3 different types of mana given to 4 different players +mana doubles + everything else every turn would be. Every turn would be "Ok you have your mana, but also RGB, 4G from this, 2 uncolor from that, and I double your lands, and-" It sounds horrible to play.
Different dice for different colored mana isn't necessary i just need the total of mana and then minus when ever they use it it can get a lil messy but my groups dont really get bigger then 3-4 ppl
Leyline tyrant and Omnath locus of mana will be all stars in this deck teck. Allowing your green and red mana to not empty from your mana pool as phases end.
Mana Sink suggestion: Sensei's Divining Top! With most of your other sinks, if you have an odd amount of Mana, you take 1 point of burn. Why take damage you don't need to?
I haven't been able to play it yet, because yeah, 2020 everybody, but I think I did something interesting with Yurlok, as I built my deck as a discard deck. Guess when you don't have to worry that your opponents use the mana on instants? When they don't have cards in hand!
This is a cool commander. The Crawling Barrens is a awesome card in this deck. Mistcutter Hydra might be a good mana sink and can take care of those sneaky blue players.
You’re in luck, we’re actually releasing a Malcolm primer today! It’s not exactly the same strategy because Dargo was revealed after we wrote and recorded it, but it will have lots of pirate tribal goodies to talk about. Stay tuned!
i have a question about your moxfield link. I've never used moxfield but went on to it to check what the price of this deck would be, but it seems like your channel has either added the most expensive version of sol ring, or the most expensive version is the default. Like, why? if the site did it on its own, then no worries, but if y'all did it that just seems like a dumb thing to do. Did you just want to flex that you had a really expensive sol ring? It's just really frustrating because now I have to go through each card individually to see what the cheapest option available is for each printing when y'all could have done it as you were making the list in the first place.
I'm a little confused about your build and how yurlock works. My understanding is mana burn damage takes place at end of phase, rather than end of turn. Because of this, it triggers effects like belbe if yurlock is tapped pre combat. This enables approaches that weren't discussed in the video, such as utilizing neheb, the eternal for massive mana generation.
I don't think War's Toll work in the way it feels like it should work. I think the tapping of the lands doesn't produce the mana, which is nice since you keep people from casting spells in the phases after they first cast a spell, but I don't think the mana burn would really do much, since a player can spend 5 minutes figuring out how much mana they need and then tap those in response to the War's Toll trigger.
That’s a good point. I think it’s still a valuable piece to lock them out of the colors that they need to cast spells on other people’s turns, but you’re right that it doesn’t necessarily guarantee mana burn if they play their hand right.
I don't think the "taps all lands" cards work the way you think they do. Isn't ist so that there lands just become tapped without giving them mana? I have a yurlok deck as well, and that was one problem I had... But nice deck! :)
im confused about cards like 'war's toll'. it just says to tap all their lands, but does it actually activate the lands' mana ability? seems like it wouldn't. when you tap a creature it's ability doesn't automatically trigger so why would a lands? seems like most people play it that way though....
also with blood moon... i didn't think changing a land to a mountain would effect the color it produces. it is not changing the text, only the card type....
Yurlok doesn’t cause mana burn, he just makes you lose life when mana empties your mana pool. So when the mana leaves at end of turn, Yurlok still applies! - Peter
Giving your opponents extra mana is terrible. Early in the game you’re helping everybody ramp. I’d cut all of those and add Overabundance and more burn enchantments. Put in more removals like lavalanche and lifegain like Grim Feast
Can agree that I was burned very many times playing this build of the deck, and Overabundance is the only mana doubler that helps everyone but is also actually just manabarbs in disguise. This deck evolved quite a lot after this deck tech, I can tell you that. - Peter
@@CommandValley yeah Overabundance works because it’s doubling players’ mana, but at a cost. I also added Chandra, Awakened Inferno to go up against counterspell players. I hope you make an updated video to see what other cards I can put on mine
So I’ve been looking at blood moon effects recently. Not just for red but for black too with infernal darkness and contamination. Do you think there’s a world where this deck runs all 4? Or is that just asking too much of a 3 color general?
I think there is a world where those blood moon effects make a good combination with Yurlok. The tricky thing that I ran into while building this deck is that the more we prevent our opponents from casting spells, the harder it will be to make them add mana to their mana pool, and I didn’t include too many blood moon/other Stax pieces because of that. But if you want to lean more heavily into Stax then I did, I think that’s the right approach.
It's close to counterproductive, but the mana doesn't fade until end of turn, and Yurlok doesn't say "mana burn", he has a specific effect. So Shizuko's ability isn't affected by Yurlok's, and when the mana dissipates at the end of their turn, they'll be hit with Yurlok's trigger. Great question! - Peter
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Thanks for watching! We did make a slight error in this deck tech - Elemental Resonance doesn't work the way that I thought it did because you are still the aura's controller, so you get the mana. That makes it a much less good piece, but you can replace it with some kind of mana ramp or another mana sink. Everything else works as intended though! - Peter
Sundial only works on your Turn too
Cool deck. Elemental Resonance would add mana to your pool though, not an opponents. You still control the enchantment even if it’s attached to an opponent’s permanent
A thing to note about war's toll. It is effectively a "may' ability. As you are the one tapping the mana, but they then in response can tap the lands for their mana. But your opponent might decide to not do that. So they tap the 3 mana they need for the spell, then just let you tap all their lands. They don't get burned, but ensure your opponents never have standing mana to mess with you is a potent effect.
This honestly seems like a really powerful deck and a unique way to win. Love it.
Im living for this deck tech
I love this commander, it's the kind of design I really enjoy!
Your deck techs are always on point, but may i suggest Scavenging Ooze for this one, maybe instead of Klothys? It's a mana sink, life-gainer, graveyard-hate piece, that easily grows into a threat with all of your green mana. It doesn't trigger enchantresses, though. But if that's a matter of concern, Tymaret, Chosen by Death does.
I'm pretty sure this combo also works.
(Yurlok + Seeker of Skybreak + Rings of Brighthearth)
Spend one mana to activate Yurlok and produce BRG, tap Seeker and use two of that mana to copy Seeker's untap ability with Rings to untap both Seeker and Yurlok. You now have that remaining 1 mana to start the process over again. Repeat until your opponents have a million mana in their pools.
Looks like it works to me! Love it. - Peter
ashaya might be fun if you have creature tutoring. add in argothian elder and leyweaver to tap and untap yurlock and itself since they count as forests to generate infinite aman and utaps. just have a mana sink ready. in regards to mana sinks some of them had too high of a mana cost to sink so i'd try to stick with 1-3 mana ones since you can probably do cooler things with 4 plus mana. I went with nylea keen eyed and erebos god of the dead(which i like better than vortex so i can gain life off of exquisite blood). But i like your enchantress idea i may swap out some punish creatures left over from my Klothys group slug that i'm building into this. be careful with too many mana gifting effects they can use on their turn a few early plays I just helped them get to board states i couldn't handle.
Thanks for the shout out! Super fun to brew this with ya!
I was considering building this, and then I realized what an incredible pain in the ass keeping track of 3 different types of mana given to 4 different players +mana doubles + everything else every turn would be.
Every turn would be "Ok you have your mana, but also RGB, 4G from this, 2 uncolor from that, and I double your lands, and-"
It sounds horrible to play.
I keeep track with dice every tirn i count how much mana there getting and using
@@NecroIris Do you use 5 different dice, for the different colors of mana? Isn't it a bit messy?
Different dice for different colored mana isn't necessary i just need the total of mana and then minus when ever they use it it can get a lil messy but my groups dont really get bigger then 3-4 ppl
overabundance is a perfect fit in this deck as it rolls burn damage and doubling mana together in one card
Leyline tyrant and Omnath locus of mana will be all stars in this deck teck. Allowing your green and red mana to not empty from your mana pool as phases end.
Mana Sink suggestion: Sensei's Divining Top!
With most of your other sinks, if you have an odd amount of Mana, you take 1 point of burn. Why take damage you don't need to?
I haven't been able to play it yet, because yeah, 2020 everybody, but I think I did something interesting with Yurlok, as I built my deck as a discard deck. Guess when you don't have to worry that your opponents use the mana on instants? When they don't have cards in hand!
This is a cool commander. The Crawling Barrens is a awesome card in this deck. Mistcutter Hydra might be a good mana sink and can take care of those sneaky blue players.
You guys should do a deck list with Malcolm, Dargo, Lightning-Rig Crew, and a sacrifice outlet as the main win con
You’re in luck, we’re actually releasing a Malcolm primer today! It’s not exactly the same strategy because Dargo was revealed after we wrote and recorded it, but it will have lots of pirate tribal goodies to talk about. Stay tuned!
For mana sinks, ant queen and kessig wolf run are very good choices
MANA BURN'S BACK BABEY!!!
i have a question about your moxfield link.
I've never used moxfield but went on to it to check what the price of this deck would be, but it seems like your channel has either added the most expensive version of sol ring, or the most expensive version is the default. Like, why? if the site did it on its own, then no worries, but if y'all did it that just seems like a dumb thing to do. Did you just want to flex that you had a really expensive sol ring? It's just really frustrating because now I have to go through each card individually to see what the cheapest option available is for each printing when y'all could have done it as you were making the list in the first place.
I'm a little confused about your build and how yurlock works. My understanding is mana burn damage takes place at end of phase, rather than end of turn. Because of this, it triggers effects like belbe if yurlock is tapped pre combat. This enables approaches that weren't discussed in the video, such as utilizing neheb, the eternal for massive mana generation.
I wish he would have been sans white. Having a hive Mind out and then giving all of your opponents rituals seems hilariousm
I don't think War's Toll work in the way it feels like it should work. I think the tapping of the lands doesn't produce the mana, which is nice since you keep people from casting spells in the phases after they first cast a spell, but I don't think the mana burn would really do much, since a player can spend 5 minutes figuring out how much mana they need and then tap those in response to the War's Toll trigger.
That’s a good point. I think it’s still a valuable piece to lock them out of the colors that they need to cast spells on other people’s turns, but you’re right that it doesn’t necessarily guarantee mana burn if they play their hand right.
I don't think the "taps all lands" cards work the way you think they do. Isn't ist so that there lands just become tapped without giving them mana?
I have a yurlok deck as well, and that was one problem I had...
But nice deck! :)
Great deck and commander but i have almost no cards of this list
I built my Yurlok deck. It's called "Disco Inferno".
avatar of slaughter.
im confused about cards like 'war's toll'. it just says to tap all their lands, but does it actually activate the lands' mana ability? seems like it wouldn't. when you tap a creature it's ability doesn't automatically trigger so why would a lands? seems like most people play it that way though....
also with blood moon... i didn't think changing a land to a mountain would effect the color it produces. it is not changing the text, only the card type....
What about victory chimes? Great video though!
wait aren't you the one making mana with Elemantal Resonance?
@TCB yes but you're still the one gaining the mana, it says add mana equal to the enchanted permanent to Your mana pool
I have a pinned comment pointing out that I made a mistake with that one, but thanks for pointing it out 😁 - Peter
How does Shizuko, Caller of Autumn work in this deck if it specifically says "This mana doesn't cause mana burn?"
Yurlok doesn’t cause mana burn, he just makes you lose life when mana empties your mana pool. So when the mana leaves at end of turn, Yurlok still applies! - Peter
sounds like Belbe should be in the deck (maybe)
Are you sure Elemental Resonance works like you say it works?
Read the pinned comment please 😁
I think Mana web could be added here
The ruling for mana web says that “the lands that are tapped by mana web’s ability don’t produce mana as a result”
Its the fanta-demon
Giving your opponents extra mana is terrible. Early in the game you’re helping everybody ramp. I’d cut all of those and add Overabundance and more burn enchantments. Put in more removals like lavalanche and lifegain like Grim Feast
Can agree that I was burned very many times playing this build of the deck, and Overabundance is the only mana doubler that helps everyone but is also actually just manabarbs in disguise. This deck evolved quite a lot after this deck tech, I can tell you that. - Peter
@@CommandValley yeah Overabundance works because it’s doubling players’ mana, but at a cost. I also added Chandra, Awakened Inferno to go up against counterspell players. I hope you make an updated video to see what other cards I can put on mine
Silence the believers tho
So I’ve been looking at blood moon effects recently. Not just for red but for black too with infernal darkness and contamination. Do you think there’s a world where this deck runs all 4? Or is that just asking too much of a 3 color general?
I think there is a world where those blood moon effects make a good combination with Yurlok. The tricky thing that I ran into while building this deck is that the more we prevent our opponents from casting spells, the harder it will be to make them add mana to their mana pool, and I didn’t include too many blood moon/other Stax pieces because of that. But if you want to lean more heavily into Stax then I did, I think that’s the right approach.
Wouldnt Shizuko be counterproductive cuz she says "This doesnt cause manaburn" and the mana doesnt faze out
It's close to counterproductive, but the mana doesn't fade until end of turn, and Yurlok doesn't say "mana burn", he has a specific effect. So Shizuko's ability isn't affected by Yurlok's, and when the mana dissipates at the end of their turn, they'll be hit with Yurlok's trigger. Great question! - Peter
I dont think there's mana burn in MTG anymore.
Build bad decks get bad results. Not enuff interaction.