The fact you have to use a tera Pokémon also opens up a potential Noctowl engine, and fan rotom to instantly search for your Pokémon. Maybe this would be useful in a Cornerstone Ogerpon build to create a slightly slower deck more focused on walling. Ditto can use Raging Tackle, whilst Ogerpon walls like half the metagame already
oh yea ditto is definetly crazy, i think the reason ppl arent trying it is bc there trying to master playing different meta decks and master the 60, and that there are a LOT of different decks u could play rn, but also that ppl dont know what to actually attack with it, i dont im sure if i looked into it i would but im cookin with other stuff so
The new ace spec Brilliant Blender in surging sparks means that now we can discard all the attackers really easily. You should try ditto with chain of spirits spiritomb to get 250 damage off of 2 darkness energy with easy blender setup. if you want higher damage you can trade the consistancy for the brute bonnet, binding mochi, and maybe radiant hissuian sneasler to get 300 or even 320 damage turn 1 :O
first time watching you and i really enjoy your style, really clear and easy to follow explanations and i love the demonstration in the second half as well :)
I like the showcase of how a turbo deck can work in the format Realistically this deck or similar decks won't win any real games, but it’s definitely fun to watch
1:26 i’m not sure you would have to retreat the ditto. There’s another thing that’s just like this that uses the attack of another one, but because you’re using the attack of the one you’re using is not considered the attack that you used so you’re able to use it over and over again without retreating. It may be the same same thing with ditto because you’re using the sudden transformation attack and not the attack of the one you’re copying.
It's not quite the same, because sudden transformation is an ability that lets you use that attack, rather than using an attack which copies the effect of an attack - so you still technically used cavern tackle, whereas a mew using genome hacking would have used that attack and not cavern tackle
out of curiosity i was wondering if you make a decklist of the deck you used in your example? I wanna try building it and work from there if its not too much trouble.
i have a gimmick idea for a deck in mind but im a new player so i dont know how or if its even possible. the idea is either shrinking the bench or getting rid of a card that increases your bench. so you can get rid of damaged pokemon by discarding the ones that dont fit. i like the idea of a villainous strat of telling your hurt pokemon "i have no use for you anymore". can you make that work?
It's a really good strategy!! Pops up in a few decks with collapsed stadium, or decks with area zero that have some way to remove it - I actually talk about this a little bit in my latest video on Ditto
i wish the deck you posted wasnt entirely walled by manaphy if you used ditto to attack. whats another attacker you could have slotted into that deck? i know its just an an example list
If you wanna make use of kyurem you could definitely try including a cancelling cologne! But I'd recommend taking a look through some of the other options yourself - you'll find some interesting attacks 👁️👄👁️
Really want to play the trumpet as well but I´m afraid this kind of build eats itself up too fast, I´d imagine it looses to drago and generally has a hard time against all the stage two decks, they just need manaphy and once they set up in peace, their shit is too big. Even against turbo decks, you need to set up terapagos twice cause they will double gust. currently hanging out with area zero, iono, noctowl, but not fully convinced either.
i want to use ditto to create a control deck but struggling atm to find the right supporters and item counts to maximise consistency, brain is fried rn from control deckbuilding the new format is not kind to the archetype :'(
Its a 1 prizer that can use an insane variety of attacks, if it was hard to KO thatd be unhealthy, stop acting like somethings bad just because its balanced.. btw you can charm it to 120 and double bouffy to make it a requirement to hit 180 just to take 1 prize, and you can also legacy energy and force a 7 prize game to compensate if they take advantage of your 2 prizers
maybe playing it with palkia would be better, having acces for both greninja and kyurem looks nice, but then manaphy would really break this deck apart.
I really hope ditto plus amazing rare Pokémon gets the Pokémon company to actually balance expanded. That shits already evolved into a donk format like unlimited, but at least with expanded, they have the option of banning as many cards as they want
I just play 2009 or ex 2006:format when I want to play older cards, bc those formats are amazingly balanced. Vs expanded. If they actually took expanded as a serious format for events, I would be all over it as a legit format you can go to regionals and play with. They really should have tournaments for other formats, not just standard.
@@Hugh_Mungus_Johnsonhe never said anything about them being an issue, just something to call attention to the format, theres a distinction and you assumed it without asking questions
Can someone explain why he searched greninja before squawkabilly. I get it worked better in this example, but I feel in general you wanna lock in that ability then hope for some search after that to get greninja.
You can definitely make an argument for searching squawk! I generally like getting squawk later, cause if I end up drawing a hand off research that I don't want to discard then I'd rather not have it benched - plus odds of seeing 0 ball search off of the next 10 cards are also really low so I'll find it if I really need it
How did you professors research turn one during your goldfish when you can’t play supporter turn one? If you weren’t demoing it as a turn one, how did you sqwak? I’d like to see some test games vs a irl opponent and against the meta. Let’s see 🎉🎉🎉🎉
It was demoing the first turn going second - so you can use both squawk and research ☺️ Could be interesting to post some full games once I have a more refined list!
Regidrago : Look What They Need to Mimic a Fraction of Our Power
It'll rotate soonish, might as well!
Also a single prize deck, vs a double prize deck
And not absolutely hated. Drago is so hated it put Zard on the "good side" of decks 😂
Regidrago is gone soon so who cares
@@RubenFernandoTorres8 months isnt soon lmao what r u on
The fact you have to use a tera Pokémon also opens up a potential Noctowl engine, and fan rotom to instantly search for your Pokémon. Maybe this would be useful in a Cornerstone Ogerpon build to create a slightly slower deck more focused on walling. Ditto can use Raging Tackle, whilst Ogerpon walls like half the metagame already
I was thinking of something like this too! A slow-ish one prize deck that just has an annoying strone ogrepon on the bench to enable all this!
regular music: 💢
creepy music: ✅
We are never having a game without Kyurem ever again, don't we?
What is this sentence?
"Only 55 different attack options" sounds like your rich friend who "only has two pools"
oh yea ditto is definetly crazy, i think the reason ppl arent trying it is bc there trying to master playing different meta decks and master the 60, and that there are a LOT of different decks u could play rn, but also that ppl dont know what to actually attack with it, i dont im sure if i looked into it i would but im cookin with other stuff so
and because its bugged in ptcgl (or mayb its already fixed idk)
The new ace spec Brilliant Blender in surging sparks means that now we can discard all the attackers really easily. You should try ditto with chain of spirits spiritomb to get 250 damage off of 2 darkness energy with easy blender setup. if you want higher damage you can trade the consistancy for the brute bonnet, binding mochi, and maybe radiant hissuian sneasler to get 300 or even 320 damage turn 1 :O
That's really spicy! 🔥 I'd love to give it a go
first time watching you and i really enjoy your style, really clear and easy to follow explanations and i love the demonstration in the second half as well :)
I knew that trumpet was broken but i wasn't thinking big enough :) thank you chef
The Best United Wings Attacker of The Past vs The Best Kyurem abuser of Today
this makes a good donk deck, but ditto should have bravery charm and bouffalent if it intends to stay longer
I like the showcase of how a turbo deck can work in the format
Realistically this deck or similar decks won't win any real games, but it’s definitely fun to watch
i think darkrai vstar and cylene could be worth looking into since they are some of the few ways to recycle item cards
1:26 i’m not sure you would have to retreat the ditto. There’s another thing that’s just like this that uses the attack of another one, but because you’re using the attack of the one you’re using is not considered the attack that you used so you’re able to use it over and over again without retreating. It may be the same same thing with ditto because you’re using the sudden transformation attack and not the attack of the one you’re copying.
It's not quite the same, because sudden transformation is an ability that lets you use that attack, rather than using an attack which copies the effect of an attack - so you still technically used cavern tackle, whereas a mew using genome hacking would have used that attack and not cavern tackle
@@timdanklin true that. Forgot it has to be the effective attack and not the ability of the use of the attack.
The attack says “this attack cannot be used”, not “this pokemon can’t use this attack”.
This deck definitely looks fun!
Ditto Box.... seems stupid funny ngl
I was playing tainted lost while watching this and I blew myself up with ipacac on basement one after seeing more options
You could also try Slowking! He gets access to a lot of attacks!
and then the opponent opens with Flutter Mane and you cry 😭
My worst nightmare! The final deck probably needs cologne
@@timdanklin especially if you play Kyurem, Cologne vs Manaphy is brutal
Flutter and thorns arent scary wdym u literally play a cologne and pop off
@@flowbie-1336 thorns doesn't even stop Ditto, Flutter does
out of curiosity i was wondering if you make a decklist of the deck you used in your example? I wanna try building it and work from there if its not too much trouble.
Yeah I show it off right after the demonstration, but it definitely needs a bit of a late game strategy squeezed in
how do you make these animated 3D cards?
This deck with the veluza crabominable combo and the supporter tobdiscard Is gonna be nuuuuuts
Do one with the new sloking!!!!
i have a gimmick idea for a deck in mind but im a new player so i dont know how or if its even possible. the idea is either shrinking the bench or getting rid of a card that increases your bench. so you can get rid of damaged pokemon by discarding the ones that dont fit. i like the idea of a villainous strat of telling your hurt pokemon "i have no use for you anymore". can you make that work?
It's a really good strategy!! Pops up in a few decks with collapsed stadium, or decks with area zero that have some way to remove it - I actually talk about this a little bit in my latest video on Ditto
@@timdanklin i didnt think there was anything interesting in the video. i assumed it would just be gameplay. i gotta check it out later
Just sub thank you for your great combo 😁
i wish the deck you posted wasnt entirely walled by manaphy if you used ditto to attack. whats another attacker you could have slotted into that deck? i know its just an an example list
The new raging bolt from Stellar crown
If you wanna make use of kyurem you could definitely try including a cancelling cologne! But I'd recommend taking a look through some of the other options yourself - you'll find some interesting attacks 👁️👄👁️
Just sneak in a colress card in your opponents discard pile while theyre not watching 🧠
Please keep cooking
Really want to play the trumpet as well but I´m afraid this kind of build eats itself up too fast, I´d imagine it looses to drago and generally has a hard time against all the stage two decks, they just need manaphy and once they set up in peace, their shit is too big. Even against turbo decks, you need to set up terapagos twice cause they will double gust. currently hanging out with area zero, iono, noctowl, but not fully convinced either.
Spiritomb does 60 more damage for each Spiritomb in your discard pile. You could easily do 250 turn one with this.
I know I look dumb asking, does the ditto hability plays from bench or it have to be in active spot?
Because it's just copying the attack, you do need to be in the active spot to use it!
i want to use ditto to create a control deck but struggling atm to find the right supporters and item counts to maximise consistency, brain is fried rn from control deckbuilding the new format is not kind to the archetype :'(
A controlling version of this could be really cool! Would love to see it if you end up with some cool attacking options 👀
Ting-Lu shout out! :D
But, Bro, it’s 70hp . It’ll be knocked as soon as they know what you’re trying to do with ditto.
Play bouffalant and now takes 60 less damage and has basically 130hp
Its a 1 prizer that can use an insane variety of attacks, if it was hard to KO thatd be unhealthy, stop acting like somethings bad just because its balanced.. btw you can charm it to 120 and double bouffy to make it a requirement to hit 180 just to take 1 prize, and you can also legacy energy and force a 7 prize game to compensate if they take advantage of your 2 prizers
Can you upload the list for copy-pasting, please?
Said that sense ditto came out may not be broken In the normal sense byt man it's
Good
Deck would be cool if Boss' orders didn't exist.
maybe playing it with palkia would be better, having acces for both greninja and kyurem looks nice, but then manaphy would really break this deck apart.
I kinda wanna flop for 30 though...
Man thought he was slick discarding the Mew ex when he retreated :v
Jokes aside, very cool concept
Whoops! Got too excited cause I was about to throw all my opponents cards off the table
@@timdanklin lol, I get it. I feel the same way when I find a homebrew that works well.
I really hope ditto plus amazing rare Pokémon gets the Pokémon company to actually balance expanded. That shits already evolved into a donk format like unlimited, but at least with expanded, they have the option of banning as many cards as they want
I just play 2009 or ex 2006:format when I want to play older cards, bc those formats are amazingly balanced. Vs expanded. If they actually took expanded as a serious format for events, I would be all over it as a legit format you can go to regionals and play with. They really should have tournaments for other formats, not just standard.
Ditto and amazing rare pokemon aren't issues in expanded though. There are much better decks.
@@Hugh_Mungus_Johnsonhe never said anything about them being an issue, just something to call attention to the format, theres a distinction and you assumed it without asking questions
Yea ADP is the real issue with expanded.
Love the content but the music was a bit distracting.
Can someone explain why he searched greninja before squawkabilly. I get it worked better in this example, but I feel in general you wanna lock in that ability then hope for some search after that to get greninja.
You can definitely make an argument for searching squawk! I generally like getting squawk later, cause if I end up drawing a hand off research that I don't want to discard then I'd rather not have it benched - plus odds of seeing 0 ball search off of the next 10 cards are also really low so I'll find it if I really need it
@@timdanklin than you
Ditto 🥴
Great thumbnail and awesome idea. The music is too loud & distracting though.
I love Tim Danklin and his crazy scientist pokemon ideas ʕ ꈍᴥꈍʔ🧡💛 ditto.. genius
Is this Yugioh? Looks like it from that first turn.
Goat+edison>standard yugioh
This background song has to go
How did you professors research turn one during your goldfish when you can’t play supporter turn one? If you weren’t demoing it as a turn one, how did you sqwak? I’d like to see some test games vs a irl opponent and against the meta. Let’s see 🎉🎉🎉🎉
It was demoing the first turn going second - so you can use both squawk and research ☺️ Could be interesting to post some full games once I have a more refined list!
Its an example list lmao not a final one what r u on 😂
I'm really bad at making decks is there an email I can send to you for help? Thanks!
If you shoot me a message on twitter I'll do my best to respond 🫡