What Happened To Proctor John?? | Fear the Walking Dead Breakdown

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  • @lisainthecold4287
    @lisainthecold4287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Agree with u that Proctor John was underutilized and could have been a great villian after the dam. The motorcycle gang type villan near the Mexican border is realistic and they could have done alot more there. I loved that trading post stadium place, can believe that going on in this world. U can buy or trade anything there and I can see the proctors really doing something like that. I like to think they are still out there looking for our group for vengence.

    • @JavierMartinez-oj3rg
      @JavierMartinez-oj3rg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I understand revenge could be a very common human trait, but let’s be fair dude pettiness is also a human trait that’s common but Proctor John let’s be fair. He’s the definition of a businessman and he wants his business to prosper and he’s not gonna let one bad set up, prevent him from continuing to do business besides going after the groupwould probably cost him a lot more than control over the regions supply from a particular river so I’m guessing he forgot about them because he realized how small they were and realized there was bigger fish fry then just revenge

  • @daron6616
    @daron6616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Proctor.John was the villain we deserved for season 4. They said the Proctors were once a small SoCal MC that were expanding into Texas after the world ended. They also had that whole Sons of Anarchy breaking bad vibe. It makes sense that the gangs would take over as it was “the lawless world they’ve been waiting for.” The Mexican gangsters had already taken over where they fled from.

  • @jonathanf2392
    @jonathanf2392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    FTWD before s4 always had this style where they introduce side characters and when our main case leave them, we never hear from them again. For example, Tobias from LA, Jack from Connor's group that we met when we were in the Abigail, Elena from the hotel, the survivors from Luciana group, quelataca (Walker) & crazy dog from the ranch, and so on. Because s4 basically changed this show for the worse, I don't believe we'll ever see Procter John again, even though he isn't confirmed dead.

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Season 4 is when Gimple and his gay sidekicks took over

    • @Ryan-rb4xj
      @Ryan-rb4xj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoryandReviews yeah, no need to bring sexuality into their intelligence mate

    • @MCPE_YT
      @MCPE_YT ปีที่แล้ว

      It makes more sense like that, it makes the ftwd world bigger

  • @schlock159
    @schlock159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yeah, it could have been a great season 4.
    Imagine we had Qaletaqa Walker, Lee/Crazy Dog, Proctor John & Althea along with her cameraman in season 4A.
    And then the group reaches Texas in season 4B and we had Abraham Ford & Eugene Porter in season 4.
    That would have been amazing !!.

  • @thisisdra5ticc
    @thisisdra5ticc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I hope he comes back. I liked him

  • @antfrancis9941
    @antfrancis9941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seeing this just reminded that I haven't even finished watching season 5 yet. I started but dozed off through most of the 1st 6 episodes. The show really became jarring but I guess I'll try to finish it before the new season starts.

  • @fritzvanlonden1388
    @fritzvanlonden1388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Saviors were like the modern day (or post-apocalyptic) version of a medieval/feudal Lord's. While, The Proctor's reminded me of the warlords/cartels you'd find in third world countries.

  • @navmalcolm
    @navmalcolm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think he’ll be in season 6 apart of Virginia’s group, along with Taka and crazy dog. They need all the help they can get this upcoming season to get viewers back

    • @zeidenmedia
      @zeidenmedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Madison too, please.

    • @Walker_Dead_Phoenix.2016
      @Walker_Dead_Phoenix.2016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zeidenmedia I agree with you. We need Madison clark, troy otto, protector john, lee crazy dog and tobias to come in fear twd season 6 alive and well and for fear twd season 6 and beyond.

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope

  • @zeidenmedia
    @zeidenmedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maybe the Proctors will rescue all from Ginny. Taqa Walker needs to reappear.

  • @DJDoctorWilfred
    @DJDoctorWilfred 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey guys this brings up a good point here. And you can definitely see the difference between proctor John and Negan. Not to mention the actor does such a good job in the roles he plays. His character had tons of potential. That would be cool if he comes back bigger and stronger

  • @zachbrown210
    @zachbrown210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it's to be assumed that he died on the bridge. He wasnt a badass, just had people around him that took orders and protected him

  • @CSC52698
    @CSC52698 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Season 3 was a tremendous step up for FTWD. I was fully invested at that point. Troy was becoming a favourite. Madison, and company had grown on me. I would've definitely preferred a continuation of Season 3 year instead of a time jump. I didn't even finish the first episode of the fourth season. Just couldn't.

  • @gameonrecon2683
    @gameonrecon2683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Proctor John was a really interesting villain in season 3 and S3 was really great! Despite having Morgan crossing over and new characters On S4, they completely changed everything and forgets the S3 story and Proctor John villain to make a brand new story about Morgan by killing off Madison on her Fourth season. After season 5, fans are starting to stop watching, even after the finale of S5. I might be one of them. I’m starting to see why fans blame Scott Gimple but I will still keep my hopes until the first S6 trailer. There are a lot of things I see for Fear that will keep my hopes up until S6. The actor of Daniel says he expects to hear what happened at the dam in S6. There’s a theory saying Madison will save Morgan. I think the father of graces child would be Proctor John which would probably mean he will return. The two showrunners seem to be avoiding questions of killing off Madison and keeping quiet of S6 saying fans will have to wait and see. I was believing that the whole point of making Fear TWD about Morgan is for the fans who only watch the original show and during season 4 and 5 Fear characters talk about their past so much, original walking dead fans might want to look back at Season 1-3 to see what they mean. The show runners say there will be changes but I have the feeling the “changes” won’t satisfy the fans because i don’t think it means stop trying to help people change and just do some action like S3 did instead. Though we did see Victor Strand plan do something like he used to do in S3 so maybe we will be satisfied. I like to believe that season 6 will finally go back to what happened in S3 and the the story with Proctor John will continue and Madison will come back because they never showed her body. There was a picture of Kim Dickens with the old cast crew and the actor of Troy so maybe that was a short tease for season 6. And that would also mean that people saying Troy will return but never did because he is going to return in S6.

    • @datguy3581
      @datguy3581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Recon Bravo 52 I can’t see them making any course corrections next season. It time to bail. We deserve better content from the TWD universe.

    • @fritzvanlonden1388
      @fritzvanlonden1388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't see Proctor John as the father of Grace's baby... didn't she say the father was a co-worker?

    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Recon Bravo 52 yeah there was a big rumor the actor who played Troy would return in Season 5, which of course didn't happen!! We would LOVE to see Troy if he surived a hammer to the head, and the dam collapsing! Proctor John being Gracie's daughter is a little out there. I thought they mentioned who her father supposedly was and he was killed during the assault on one of the Saviors outposts. Not sure! ~Jarell

  • @fritzvanlonden1388
    @fritzvanlonden1388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've a feeling 🤞 we'll get something about Walker & Crazy Dog AND John & The Proctor's in the future... possibly, with Rick's movies. I've always thought The Proctor's may be involved with CRM.

    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah wonder what Walker and Crazy Dog are up too after basically saving Nick on the Dam. ~Jarell

  • @kjamarch
    @kjamarch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for posting this video. I also wondered what happened to the Proctor's. I think it's safe to assume that they either died in the dam explosion since you see many corpses floating in the river when Madison swims or Daniel Salazar kills them as revenge for the Water Queen's death. Also Daniel Salazar tells Alycia when he first sees her this past season that even he wants to know what happened to them, but will never know.. I'm not sure if that was like an inside joke for the FTD universe directed at the new showrunners and SG. However, Proctor John did say there were over a dozen brothers dead floating in the water that they planned to distribute with Victor Strand. There is a video timeline out there that says the dam explosion happened around the same time the CDC exploded in Atlanta in TWD. Why is it important, because it means it is way early in the apocalypse and that Madison and the gang were much more experienced at the time then what was happening with Rick, Shane, and the Atlanta survivors. Also Proctor John was in delicate condition and there is also another chance that he could have turned into a Walker if he underwent another back surgery or got sick as Alycia was no longer able to nurse him. So many questions would have even made a great mini series movie and lead up to Morgan joining the show, because as we know Morgan at that time of the dam explosion is still in Atlanta. That means lots of time has past between the events of the damn exploding and Madison finding the baseball stadium. That's why there is a big gap missing. But maybe Althea's tapes could reveal what happened to them, as we are still waiting for the Rosita, Abraham and Eugene tape.. The problem is the tapes are gone as Logan only knows what happened to them and now he's dead too.. So many questions.. too many answer to quote the Riddler.. Keep up the great videos..
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    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Kristen Alzza They definitely should do some spinoffs from those Althea Tapes. We really liked Ed, Clark, Jody and Samora!! ~Jarell

  • @elijahcucos1323
    @elijahcucos1323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys make amazing videos. I agree with you that we should bring back Proctor John. And also he should be with another character who was in the end of Season 3, who we really miss and really want to see him again. Troy Otto

  • @marioiii9106
    @marioiii9106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's probably the best group of villains ever encountered in whole TWD franchise in my opinion of course,the proctors were bad people in past (drug dealers,warlords etc...). But they made deal with strand before the events of Madison and Taka arriving in El Bazar. Strand owed them something so they put him in front of gates to defend gates with chains on his legs...remember that? I think personally that Ginny doesn't have any connection to Proctors because she feels like there is no humanity left in her,Proctor John was a badass but also had humanity. I hope he returns one day!

    • @datguy3581
      @datguy3581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mario III Proctor John was a competent leader of a network of bases. He never would stoop so low to monologue about helping people or making the world a better place. Proctor John was ready to kill everyone at the dam when Strands plan failed.

  • @beaver6d9
    @beaver6d9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I definitely got the impression they were being set up as the focus of season 4. Such a disappointment that they abandoned that story and all the other threads from season 3. I hate to dwell on the negative but I have so many questions as to how that went down behind the scenes. With that said, I'll never be a hater, but I think season 6 is gonna be important for the like health of the show.

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol and you turned out to be wrong.
      They just abandoned stories Ike it didn't even matter anymore.

    • @beaver6d9
      @beaver6d9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LUCKO2022 I dunno, I think season 6 definitely gave the show a shot in the arm, but it still died a slow, painful deathnin subsequent seasonz. They certainly did abandoned tons of plot points over the years, can't deny that.

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @beaver6d9
      I disagree.
      Season 6 was just as shitty.
      The first half was okish with Virginia and her Pioneers. But then she gets offed by June, and then they have that fucking Teddy crazy guy. Stupid as fuck.

  • @eder7468
    @eder7468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly proctor john could've been a main villain in season 4 and the crazy lady could've been some random marauder

  • @AmythistGaming
    @AmythistGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    so much potential dashed against the rocks.. for what we have now

  • @Douggalo426
    @Douggalo426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i agree with everything you guys said, but im more excited that there are people who actually watch Fear. Everyone just hates on it lately and its really not bad as a whole. i admit waiting a week between episodes it just seems like nothing is really happening

    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They've made some mistakes over the last two seasons, but we really do still love the show!

  • @16-bit54
    @16-bit54 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hate what happened to FTWD I really enjoyed the show and it seemed like it was heading into a great direction after the dam explosion. Proctor John/The Proctors could have been season 4's villain with Madison and the group heading to Texas to find them and rescue Alicia but no they had to completely ruin the show by ignoring the first 3 seasons plot and having a time skip so they could introduce Morgan. A character that (as far as I know) no one really cared for in the main series like they could have killed him off in a random episode and almost nobody would have cared yet for some reason they decided to ruin a show that had great potential so he could appear what a joke.

  • @notxvexorr4379
    @notxvexorr4379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The showrunner was fired from AMC after season 3 for some stupid reason(probably money and AMC being greedy)
    But the showrunner was going to have Nick's death at the end of season 3 (because Nick's actor wanted off the show) and the showrunner also planned to continue the story of proctor John in season 4 but instead we got Morgan and friends walking around aimlessly for 2 seasons
    The same thing happened with the original walking dead show after season 1
    This is why both shows dropped significantly in quality

    • @ayra9088
      @ayra9088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Source?

  • @previnus8472
    @previnus8472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    who else is here after ftwd seaon 8 episode 6

  • @kidbach
    @kidbach 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Crazy lady with a stick." Lol. The Proctor's could have been a great antagonist. So many unanswered questions for a show that was sposta answer questions of the The Walking Dead world.

    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a thing that happens. Even the main show has left this open too but they've mostly done a good job and closing them up.

  • @zeidenmedia
    @zeidenmedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ginny, Ginny who can I turn to? You give me something I can hold on to...

  • @1o1beauty
    @1o1beauty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fear just likes to troll us all- idc what anyone says...I love it

  • @emoney7731
    @emoney7731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thats another reason why I dislike the current showrunners.
    all of those loose ends they never tied up from season 3. also what happened to taka and crazy dog?
    how did Daniel escape the dam explosion?

  • @Nate4445
    @Nate4445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely a lot of great characters left behind in season 3.

  • @jaypaige7550
    @jaypaige7550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fear has done this more than once and i really hate when they do this....like what happened to that entire community that Nick and his girlfriend was apart of ? about 70 members , i know they all didn't die..

    • @Jscrizle
      @Jscrizle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wth you mean? they all got shot up when nick lead them to the border !

    • @xvx_k1r1t0_xvx_killme5
      @xvx_k1r1t0_xvx_killme5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      from season 2, in mexico? if so, i believe they’re all dead. i haven’t seen it i. a while but i believe they got captured or killed by Ottos militia

  • @Da420KinG
    @Da420KinG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm a huge fan of FearTWD regardless on how seasons 4 & 5 could've been better will always watch it till the very end, I even own seasons 1-4 on DVD along with TWD 1-9 on DVD lol

    • @datguy3581
      @datguy3581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Da420 KinG is argue that FTWD s4-5 is a completely different show than s1-3

    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Da420 KinG Same with us, we will be watching it until it's over!!! ~Jarell

  • @marciakittredge4064
    @marciakittredge4064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though they keep on going on the same trail of failure, not the main characters but, the villians. Proctor John would of been a better choice than that boring lady character. You guys have fantastic analysis analysis and analogy. Maybe you should inquire about as scriptwriters. I really enjoy ur show. I love the way you discuss things with each other. You guys are AWESOME! !!!!

  • @clarkcheatham
    @clarkcheatham 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If he comes back and is running the show with Jenny’s group then maybe they could finally give us some dialogue or something about what happened after the Dam. Daniel and Proctor could talk about it or he could tell Alycia. Anything would be nice.

  • @AmythistGaming
    @AmythistGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what happened to that lady who was with Alicia aswell? the one that collected zombie bits for currency...no idea where she went

    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ChrisPCGaming Who was that? I'm blanking on that one. ~Jarell

    • @AmythistGaming
      @AmythistGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NocBroNation I looked into it and the character was called Diana, I remember she helped alicia after she was jumped in a pool pit in a restaurant and then later there car together was rammed off the road by bandits. After alicia was taken by Proctor and his crew. She just disappeared. Just very strange cos they really seemed like they were setting up a whole story arc with these characters..another detail was her main weapon being a pick axe.

    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @ChrisPCGaming Oh yeah Diana!!! I remember her now! She was a cool character. She got injured and the guy Eddie who was with Proctor John help her with her wound, and then we never saw her again. ~Jarell

    • @AmythistGaming
      @AmythistGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NocBroNation yes! Lol hope you both had a great Christmas and new year. Keep up with the best channel for walking dead content. All the best ~ Chris

  • @tristanversteeg5738
    @tristanversteeg5738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    and this here is what pissed me off about this show, this and that after this the story lacks common sense most of the time

  • @jmcclinton8
    @jmcclinton8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They forgot about Proctor John. This show sucks!

  • @datguy3581
    @datguy3581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Proctor John was better than any villain from seasons 4 and 5. FTWD died when it was rebooted. Characters like Qaletaqa are lucky because they got to bounce before the show went to shit.

  • @diegoholley5593
    @diegoholley5593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would assume he died on the bridge

  • @BodyslamMediaProductions
    @BodyslamMediaProductions ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully we see Proctor John along with Taqa and Crazy Dog in Season 8 of FTWD

  • @JavierMartinez-oj3rg
    @JavierMartinez-oj3rg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He’s either still doing business in Mexico or trying to expand in Mexico still his trading post businesses or either here’s a thing I might want to happen the proctors coming over to dead city and becoming real threats in The Walking Dead finally so they’re not wasting away in the unknown status and fear The Walking Dead, who made them sucky villains I like to see Proctor, John and Negan fight it out too strong leaders fighting over power plus, I’m guessing the proctors would also serve a similar faction of individuals that would want to take over Manhattan for the natural resources alongside Babylon and maybe other civilization base settlements

  • @fritzvanlonden1388
    @fritzvanlonden1388 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that you mention it... maybe, Ginny is the public face of The Proctor's. If you first encounter Proctor John or his men, you know you're in trouble... she's a little less intimidating... more agreeable.

  • @МартинЙонков-ж3п
    @МартинЙонков-ж3п ปีที่แล้ว

    Were they making settlments or just trading posts

  • @themanfromthesouth1861
    @themanfromthesouth1861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He got AMC'd that's what

  • @Joe-ie8vk
    @Joe-ie8vk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Takha and crazy dog were the Indians

  • @cristiancontreras4001
    @cristiancontreras4001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whatever happened to Walker and that other guy. Didn't they say they were heading North?

    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @DarthXenon 03 Yeah I think they decided to head north I think. Miss those guys! ~Jarell

  • @Walker_Dead_Phoenix.2016
    @Walker_Dead_Phoenix.2016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree I hope proctor john returns in fear twd season 6, I think he should return in fear twd season 6. Just like I think Enid should return to twd main show in season 11 alive & well and for season 11 and beyond. #saveEnid #BringBackEnidToTheWalkingDeadUniverse #bringbackEnid #amc #twdseason11 #feartwdseason6 #feartwd #please

    • @kimw8056
      @kimw8056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Walker Dead Enid will never return to The Walking Dead. Her head was on a stake, there's no coming back from that. LOL

  • @rgibbs9734
    @rgibbs9734 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This season was the best season of the walking dead. I really what this feeling back of the show. Madison, and the native American character. Sorry i didn't remember there names. But the show was really good then. Now alot of stupid stuff is going on. Hot air balloon beer floats, flying a plane, ect. I want the serious back.

  • @justinduffany7740
    @justinduffany7740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Season 3 by far was the best season ! As a person who’s watched this show from the start . It was so hard to watch last half of season 5 and a shame. I thought the two show runners did a good job with the first half of season 4 and it’s been all down hill since. Smh they really fucked up this show big time !

  • @aliengranpa
    @aliengranpa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I forgot all about the dude!

    • @blindentertainment9412
      @blindentertainment9412 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      THE AlienHunter I guess that shows how big of a character he was

    • @MCPE_YT
      @MCPE_YT ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@blindentertainment9412of course people would forget him lmao he got like 20 minutes of screen time

  • @celt4life979
    @celt4life979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its as if we missed a few episodes after the s3 finale when s4 picked up.lazy writing ,show went to shit anyway s4 n 5 were pure pissssssshhhhh.

  • @johannesen525
    @johannesen525 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    did not proctor john say they were all over ?

  • @heyaytlgno3951
    @heyaytlgno3951 ปีที่แล้ว

    The world building in ftwd was always better than the main show

    • @MCPE_YT
      @MCPE_YT ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah in fear we got a chaotic border, a burnt west coast, the ocean was like sea of thieves, Tijuana is basically a warzone, a big ass trading post with hundreds of people in it, and waaaaay more cool locations.
      While in twd we got a random forest that sometimes spawns new villains lmao

  • @blindentertainment9412
    @blindentertainment9412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly never cared about proctor John and the other proctors. It just felt like the proctors were shoehorned into the last few episodes to make a big finale. He just felt like a discount negan but less scary. Plus hated the unrealistic spine surgery.

    • @datguy3581
      @datguy3581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Blind Entertainment They were somewhat different from Negan though and they had potential. They were being stop as the antagonists for season 4. I thought they were cool. They were better than trash lady and the season 5 villains.

  • @HistoryandReviews
    @HistoryandReviews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Season 4 is when Gimple and his gay sidekicks took over

  • @holi6293
    @holi6293 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Proctor John survived the water he probable contracted an infection in the water and died. Remember he just had back surgery

  • @prepperandson1399
    @prepperandson1399 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That show was as good if not better than walking dead after that season straigt garbage

  • @justinrodriguez8842
    @justinrodriguez8842 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    But for the most I like the show but the walking dead with our people is 100 percent better than this.

  • @bxreaalcujogaming6437
    @bxreaalcujogaming6437 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats up with you guys making those stupid facial expressions lmao...

    • @NocBroNation
      @NocBroNation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Brian Ruiz It’s called having a personality and expressions. Post and video of yourself and let’s see your expressions, if you even have any.