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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- Phone numbers and texting them, is one of the most frustrating yet important aspects of game. Here are my thoughts, reflections, and lessons after more than two decades of experience.
PS If you want to master the art of texting and messaging to get dates, check out Online Dating Academy: toddoda.com
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the raw truth about phone numbers:
70% are useless
20% are time wasters
5%-10% are hits
Slightly higher % turn into a date with online game for me. Lower % for night game.
I’ve done over 2000 daytime approaches, and 1/3 numbers turning into dates is about right from my experience. Numbers from bars/clubs are significantly flakier, so I just avoid that altogether.
I’ve also found that shorter conversations work better than longer ones when it comes to the girl coming on a date after giving her number. Not sure why, but I try to keep my conversations no longer than 2 minutes.
interesting, I thought the longer you spend with the girl, the better
@@stevenwilson4083 I thought so too. I had some amazing conversations that were 10-15 min long that went absolutely nowhere, so experimented with shorter sets, and lo and behold better results.
Of course, if you’re gonna talk to a girl for 15 min, you may as well go on an instant date. But if you don’t have the time, it seems like it’s better to keep it brief. Maybe it’s just me though. Would be curious if anyone has different experiences
@@stevenwilson4083 I thought the same thing
It’s a numbers game, the more you shoot the more you score
That’s what I say
This is why when I approach a girl in person, I ask a few questions and if I like what I hear, then I ask her out. Only if she agrees do I give out my number. Men are too indirect nowadays and need to directly put girls on the spot. Force them to decide and if no, walk away.
I often say your phrase “you and I won’t get along”, girls almost always answer it with “yes, we really won’t get along”, why doesn’t it work as intended?
Because these tactics dont work, puas just wanna fool men so they can make money
1 in 10 numbers come out for me
Sounds about right
Not bad. 👍
Lool exactly the same for me, i get 1 in 10 so i need to bust my ass😂
yep , good ratio, and the 1 out of 10 will refuse you 2nd date.
@@bjornviir3333 that's more on how you handle your first date
wow, he wins 85% of the time? and 1 in 3 numbers leads to a date? mind blowing stats! does todd ever get rejected? surely some girls think he’s too old or nor their type
Todd, thank you for all that you do. Your videos have changed my life
What mindset should one have for open relationships?
I'm currently in one and personally it's not as fun as i thought it would be
Make sure it's only open on your end
@@pashaboss6 Maybe you got feelings for her and that might be a wrong mindset.
@@matw1x That would be optimal, but how?
@@matw1x too difficult
please make a physical game manifesto and guide on pivots and merging sets
This was actually a very good video
I guess the point is, working on ourselves does a lot of the backlog work that is necessary and transcends enough of the number collecting, to make it not matter how many 10 digit numbers are gathering bit rust in the computer
This is basically just the same stats for lead generation in marketing.
actually women remember details very well, especially if the situation was emotionally charged
Biggest problem is genuine connection. Also, using a “you’re trouble” line means nothing unless you really believe it. If you don’t believe in taking that angle then you’ll never be able to “deliver”. You have to be able to figure out how to get there in your own way. Becoming manufactured is then worst thing - eventually there could be be AI robots that have sex with 10 times the amount of hot women that men do and if that happened it would be because men stopped knowing how to be themselves, and AI robots can do all of the bull shit more efficiently than humans can.
These are great numbers. 1/4 number is a date and 9/10 dates is sex. Damn. I approach and get lots of numbers easily. With your status i would have to quit my job and passions ❤😂
Getting numbers is a numbers game . ..🎉
i have quite strict rules about texting women. I’d say i actually meet them face to face 7/10 times when i get their #
What are your rules
@@bassiedappie635 minimum amount of meaningless chat over text. For the most part Text only to set up where to meet and when.
@@bassiedappie635you’ll have to pay a course and he’ll tell you
I agree w Todds #'s. Obv hes much more skilled than I am, but I find that getting the # is not the bottleneck... many if not most girls will give it. Its the conversion where the drop-off occurs. I also agree with his 90% numbers, personally I get a very high conversion rate there. If a girl comes out w me, she'll like me.
Todd can you make a similar video for your #s in online dating? I find that conversion process much trickier. Specifically converting a match to a # (anything downhill of that funnel, I dont have an issue with, but Im curious what % of matches/opens should result in number closes)
Yeah, like if a girl comes to a date with me, sex will happen, unless there is like a life-changing dramatic situation comes up...
Todd, how do i get out of my head? Every time i see an attractive girl i wanna approach, i always have these thoughts in my head that tell me, oh what if i look stupid, or stumble on my word, all these negative thoughts are really stopping me from becoming the man i wanna be, how do i stop this?
how close in a group or mixed set ....if anyone of you knows through experience, let me know plz
Who taking numbers in 2024? Instagram is the way
Does todd have an open relationship as in both parties are open?
"Regularly post photos and stories that convey a cool and interesting lifestyle."
I do have an interesting lifestyle, but it seems I'm not good at conveying that through social media. Could you please expand on this?
Look up any online game guide, really good cool pictures does 90% of the work lol
Learn about business, sales, and marketing and apply it to dating.
Is this 85% in general or specifically day game?
So far in 2024, I cold approached 50 girls. 15 of those, I number closed. And zero of those went out with me, which of course means zero had sex with me.
Those are rookie numbers. You have to pump these numbers
Just 50?
@mars315 Yup. 50 cold approaches. Almost all at the gym (a few at the grocery store). & I don't go out or do night game. And I've been in the game since 2012.
@@matw1x then you already know what you are doing wrong. Especially with that experience. Im in the Game since 2011 and my rates are about what Todd says. But more than that is delusional. So Go do something. Its up to you
Sit back for a while get to know yourself of those approaches watch videos n get back out there. The real learning lesson come from like a yearn n a half or two years of self observation
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