Thanks for the translation. I think the songs in Umineko gave away quite a lot of information, so I find interesting to look into those of Ciconia as well. Though the only interesting bit I can find in this is "make up for that umprecedented love". If the song refers to Miyao maybe that bit can be interpreted as the relationship between his parents (if being ciconia born counts as umprecendented). At that point we get an important bit of information about Miyao's mother, also. And given Miyao shares quite some traits with certain antagonist of a previous entry besides the unsual birth circumstances... well. It seems worth looking into.
I just want miyao to be happy man. This game is so unnerving to me, with how they are forced to do things like kill others or face death themselves, and they really cant do anything to stop that. The whole aspect of autonomy in this is really creepy to me
I was wondering why the recommended had a vid titled Apocalypsis AND THE SAME IMAGE APPEARS IN THIS VIDEO SERIOUSLY My timing is almost SUPERNATURAL....
@@CullixUshiromiya Considering how amazing just part one of CIconia has been I think Ciconia has the potential to do exactly that. Umineko is incredible, its an absolute masterpiece and I can barely put my feelings for it into words. It is without a doubt my single favorite story. But if anyone can surpass that its Ryukishi himself, and if every part of Ciconia is better than the last like was the case with Umineko... he will.
@@Gir558 Is Ryukishi a prophet or something? It's like he has completely captured the zeitgeist of modern society. I really enjoyed the way we got a deep dive into life in the AOU, and i can't wait to see the nuances of the other factions. And to learn more about the great cast
Im sorry if this comment offensive: When i read some news about military attack and killed the general, the WW3 quickly become trending topic.... And somehow this song and scene is the first come to my mind XD
this shit makes me flash back to the time my aunt humiliated me in a b&n for being in the anime aisle. she could never understand, and that's not just me being mean. she never finished 8th grade. yet had the nerve to say manga in general was for babies and humiliate me out loud, public. to yell at me and call me all sorts of names. CPS is a joke lol.
Some people variety of tastes is so small i wonder if they can even enjoy the music they listen or the shows they watch. How come they dont get bored? Anything a bit out of the comercial movies/songs sounds "weird" to them. How can they have such a plain life?
@@onemoregodrejected9369 well in her case it was an extreme case of narcissism and low effort. She thought she was the ideal, despite sitting on her ass all day watching daytime cable soaps and talk shows, with the most difficult thing she did in a given week being doctor hopping to get pain meds. Extremely unfort for me that I had to live with them, but in the end it gave me perspective that I wouldn’t have otherwise so I’m grateful. I dunno. It felt sort of like how some animals feel so extremely human while others feel like automatons without souls. She had no passions, no goals, no ambitions. I would feel sad for her now if she wasn’t such a rancid bitch lol.
It's very different from Umineko but just as good in my opinion. Extremely depressing though. Only one chapter is out as of today (It's on Steam) and Phase 2 has been delayed indefinitely.
Wich is gonna probably blow, because the Taiwanese company that is making the game had a record of doing shitty multiplayer games that doesn´t last more that a week with healthy population of players.
Well, there's Evil Chloe and regular Chloe. Miyao and Meow prove that people in Ciconia can have very heavily disconnected split personalities. Personally, at this point I think Chloevil being the traitor in the AOU is way too obvious. If Ryukishi is throwing something that obvious at us in part 1 its probably a red herring. Regular Chloe might be, but even that feels potentially too obvious. Chloevil being thrown at us as a way to distract from Chloe being the real traitor feels... too easy. These are both theories I made in part 1, and if When They Cry has taught me anything its that basically everything I believe in part 1 is probably going to be wrong. Doesn't stop me from thinking, of course! To stop thinking is to lose, and I don't plan to do that this time, but it does make me question everything I see. Some part of me actually suspects Meow the most. I have no concrete reason to, just a few hunches. Some of them are grounded in the story... others in Ryukishi's apparent sadism. A few of my legitimate suspicions though are as follows: 1. Meow explicitly can shut out Miyao and act without his knowledge. We don't know if the opposite is true. Its a small detail, but Ryukishi loves dropping small innocuous details and then making them super important later. Missing one in Umineko is what caused me to struggle with the solution so much. If Meow knew everything Miyao did, but Miyao sometimes didn't know what Meow was up to she could be an incredibly powerful asset. 2. Building off of my first point, there was a point where someone was killed when only Miyao and Rethabile should (as far as we know anyway) have known where he was. Rethabile is too easy to suspect, and in many ways it makes the least sense. Why would she even tell Miyao if she'd been planning that the whole time? Miyao can't be ruled out, of course, but I have my doubts. Ryukishi has made use of decoys before, but so far Miyao seems to fall firmly into the "detective" role of this story, making him being a part of the conspiracy unlikely until something raises suspicion of the validity of that role. On the other hand, Meow could potentially have had access to that information. Not only that, but the average reader may have forgotten to even consider that, and she's so incredibly innocuous and difficult to suspect with her character... it really makes me even more suspicious of her. 3. Meow does not, to my memory, ever show signs of having any idea about the Other Miyao, and she certainly is never the one that interacts with them. This is built upon other theories outside the scope of this comment, but its my belief that the Other Miyao is an enemy of the Three Kings. If I'm right about that, then Meow never interacting with the Other Miyao despite sharing the same brain is potentially suspicious. Meow could be a powerful weapon to use against Miyao, after all. It could be that the Other Miyao is intentionally not revealing themself to an agent of their enemy. On the other hand, again, its part one. Everything I know right now is probably wrong on some level, so I'm certainly not saying you're wrong or I'm right. Even if either of us are right its probably for the wrong reasons anyway.
@@Gir558 Yeah I have to agree 100% with you there. Something triggered in the fight and Chloevil appeared, remember what "Other Miyao" said to Miyao, there was an 8MS capable of lowering the intelligence of everyone when the mysterious objects were going to fall to the ground and corrupt various 8MS, I think this was the trigger for Choevil to appear atleast. What really set me off as being suspicious of Meow was when she told Miyao not to go through with his thought of rebelling but maybe this is also too obvious I dunno. Also, so far Koshka is a complete badass.
@@Rudy_3512 Well, its also important to remember that rebelling was potentially quite dangerous, and not only does Meow (as far as we know) care about Miyao and see him as a brother, they also share a body. Keeping him safe is something that she should be very invested in considering that, so its possible she did that entirely for practical or emotional reasons, rather than due to being the traitor. It is still a valid point though, for sure. An agent of the Three Kings would have every reason to discourage that, and it is good to keep in mind for the future. But knowing When They Cry games, its also best to look at both sides of things and remember there's always multiple possibilities in most situations. In Umineko we were even tricked with Red Truths that were either vague, or only literally or metaphorically true, rather than both. In the end, the important thing isn't to discard theories that seem obvious, or dismiss them because its only part 1 and you're probably wrong, but rather to question them. Why are they so obvious? What other explanations could there be? Why do I think this is true, and why might it not be? Conversely, why do I think this *isn't* true, and why might it be? Most importantly, don't seek to confirm or deny them. Looking for evidence that supports your idea is fine, but you should be looking just as hard for things that refute it, and of course looking for information that may lead to entirely new theories. Confirmation bias is a dangerous thing, and in my experience Ryukishi likes to exploit it.
No tienes ni idea lo real que se sintio el horror de las cosas que sucedian, como cosas que me esperaria de este mundo en algun punto, dale una oportunidad aunque la fase 1 exponga mucha informacion estoy seguro que la historia solo se volvera mejor y lo que tenemos ahora es excelente de por si, de hecho por la misma razon que tu no lo lei hasta muy recientemente y creeme que no me arrepiento del tiempo que emplee leyendolo
When the world is screwed and you remember this is only part 1/4.
That ending punched me in the fucking gut.
1 third of humanity died in phase 1 can't wait to see the suffering phase 2 brings us
@Colson Angelo Yea, been watching on Instaflixxer for since december myself :D
The ending punched my brains out
@@qaztim11
The real suffering is that it will never release.
I WANT CICONIA PHASE 2 ALREADY
Don’t stop believing! A miracle will happen!
he stilll busy with silent hill f
This is beautiful!
Oh, desire, Phase 2 can't come sooner!
@Soft Gnoll Hey man! Yeah, I'm everywhere xD
PHASE 2 WHEN:?!
I NEED IT!!
It got delayed indefinitely until the end of pandemic
@@mehmetalireyhan8436 noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i want phase 2 so bad
i really enjoyed phase 1
AAAAAAHHHHHH
Thanks for the translation. I think the songs in Umineko gave away quite a lot of information, so I find interesting to look into those of Ciconia as well. Though the only interesting bit I can find in this is "make up for that umprecedented love". If the song refers to Miyao maybe that bit can be interpreted as the relationship between his parents (if being ciconia born counts as umprecendented). At that point we get an important bit of information about Miyao's mother, also. And given Miyao shares quite some traits with certain antagonist of a previous entry besides the unsual birth circumstances... well. It seems worth looking into.
Piece?
I just want miyao to be happy man. This game is so unnerving to me, with how they are forced to do things like kill others or face death themselves, and they really cant do anything to stop that. The whole aspect of autonomy in this is really creepy to me
Episode 1 and we're kino already
Kino?
I'll take it as a recommendation!
What is kino?
The sheets over blue Jayden really look like angel wings
He looks like a Bodhisattva to me!
Looks like Featherine to me.
Even tought melancholic this song feels so violent in a way.
That was a great intriguing ending
Thank you for translating this!
I love this so much!!!
i am too )))))
You have a small typo in there. It´s please support the *WALLS OF PEACE.
I was wondering why the recommended had a vid titled Apocalypsis
AND THE SAME IMAGE APPEARS IN THIS VIDEO
SERIOUSLY
My timing is almost SUPERNATURAL....
I'm shocked, Ryukishi is a genius
Ryukishi is a genius, but after Umineko I'm not at all shocked.
@@Gir558 Well nothing can't top Umineko (in my opinion of course).
@@CullixUshiromiya Considering how amazing just part one of CIconia has been I think Ciconia has the potential to do exactly that. Umineko is incredible, its an absolute masterpiece and I can barely put my feelings for it into words. It is without a doubt my single favorite story. But if anyone can surpass that its Ryukishi himself, and if every part of Ciconia is better than the last like was the case with Umineko... he will.
@@Gir558 Is Ryukishi a prophet or something?
It's like he has completely captured the zeitgeist of modern society.
I really enjoyed the way we got a deep dive into life in the AOU, and i can't wait to see the nuances of the other factions.
And to learn more about the great cast
Ciconia Phase 1 was better than Umineko and Higurashi Arc 1, tbh
Im sorry if this comment offensive:
When i read some news about military attack and killed the general, the WW3 quickly become trending topic.... And somehow this song and scene is the first come to my mind XD
Mood...
WWW IS quite a trip, eh?
this shit makes me flash back to the time my aunt humiliated me in a b&n for being in the anime aisle.
she could never understand, and that's not just me being mean. she never finished 8th grade. yet had the nerve to say manga in general was for babies and humiliate me out loud, public. to yell at me and call me all sorts of names. CPS is a joke lol.
Some people variety of tastes is so small i wonder if they can even enjoy the music they listen or the shows they watch.
How come they dont get bored?
Anything a bit out of the comercial movies/songs sounds "weird" to them. How can they have such a plain life?
@@onemoregodrejected9369 well in her case it was an extreme case of narcissism and low effort. She thought she was the ideal, despite sitting on her ass all day watching daytime cable soaps and talk shows, with the most difficult thing she did in a given week being doctor hopping to get pain meds. Extremely unfort for me that I had to live with them, but in the end it gave me perspective that I wouldn’t have otherwise so I’m grateful. I dunno. It felt sort of like how some animals feel so extremely human while others feel like automatons without souls. She had no passions, no goals, no ambitions. I would feel sad for her now if she wasn’t such a rancid bitch lol.
Is this like umineko? Can anyone recommend?
It's very different from Umineko but just as good in my opinion. Extremely depressing though.
Only one chapter is out as of today (It's on Steam) and Phase 2 has been delayed indefinitely.
@@valini6652 hmm this sounds very interesting, thank you for the respond i'll definetely be checking it out
It's part of the same series and by the same writer but a separate story
Fucking kino.
@Goldmetal Alchesmith it's kino
Sad song, but I like it. ^^
Essa música é muito linda
仏
Marry Christmas
Isn't this from Haworthia?
Possibly, since the two works are apparently connected.
@@Lyendith th-cam.com/video/Jl2CQyyfZRY/w-d-xo.html
Haworthia is part of Ciconia, but seeing it from another perspective
god
Busy with Silent Hill xD
Wich is gonna probably blow, because the Taiwanese company that is making the game had a record of doing shitty multiplayer games that doesn´t last more that a week with healthy population of players.
*Spoiler*
I saw Chloe being evil from a mile away, it made too much sense.
Well, there's Evil Chloe and regular Chloe. Miyao and Meow prove that people in Ciconia can have very heavily disconnected split personalities. Personally, at this point I think Chloevil being the traitor in the AOU is way too obvious. If Ryukishi is throwing something that obvious at us in part 1 its probably a red herring. Regular Chloe might be, but even that feels potentially too obvious. Chloevil being thrown at us as a way to distract from Chloe being the real traitor feels... too easy. These are both theories I made in part 1, and if When They Cry has taught me anything its that basically everything I believe in part 1 is probably going to be wrong.
Doesn't stop me from thinking, of course! To stop thinking is to lose, and I don't plan to do that this time, but it does make me question everything I see. Some part of me actually suspects Meow the most. I have no concrete reason to, just a few hunches. Some of them are grounded in the story... others in Ryukishi's apparent sadism.
A few of my legitimate suspicions though are as follows:
1. Meow explicitly can shut out Miyao and act without his knowledge. We don't know if the opposite is true. Its a small detail, but Ryukishi loves dropping small innocuous details and then making them super important later. Missing one in Umineko is what caused me to struggle with the solution so much. If Meow knew everything Miyao did, but Miyao sometimes didn't know what Meow was up to she could be an incredibly powerful asset.
2. Building off of my first point, there was a point where someone was killed when only Miyao and Rethabile should (as far as we know anyway) have known where he was. Rethabile is too easy to suspect, and in many ways it makes the least sense. Why would she even tell Miyao if she'd been planning that the whole time? Miyao can't be ruled out, of course, but I have my doubts. Ryukishi has made use of decoys before, but so far Miyao seems to fall firmly into the "detective" role of this story, making him being a part of the conspiracy unlikely until something raises suspicion of the validity of that role. On the other hand, Meow could potentially have had access to that information. Not only that, but the average reader may have forgotten to even consider that, and she's so incredibly innocuous and difficult to suspect with her character... it really makes me even more suspicious of her.
3. Meow does not, to my memory, ever show signs of having any idea about the Other Miyao, and she certainly is never the one that interacts with them. This is built upon other theories outside the scope of this comment, but its my belief that the Other Miyao is an enemy of the Three Kings. If I'm right about that, then Meow never interacting with the Other Miyao despite sharing the same brain is potentially suspicious. Meow could be a powerful weapon to use against Miyao, after all. It could be that the Other Miyao is intentionally not revealing themself to an agent of their enemy.
On the other hand, again, its part one. Everything I know right now is probably wrong on some level, so I'm certainly not saying you're wrong or I'm right. Even if either of us are right its probably for the wrong reasons anyway.
@@Gir558
Yeah I have to agree 100% with you there.
Something triggered in the fight and Chloevil appeared, remember what "Other Miyao" said to Miyao, there was an 8MS capable of lowering the intelligence of everyone when the mysterious objects were going to fall to the ground and corrupt various 8MS, I think this was the trigger for Choevil to appear atleast.
What really set me off as being suspicious of Meow was when she told Miyao not to go through with his thought of rebelling but maybe this is also too obvious I dunno.
Also, so far Koshka is a complete badass.
@@Rudy_3512 Well, its also important to remember that rebelling was potentially quite dangerous, and not only does Meow (as far as we know) care about Miyao and see him as a brother, they also share a body. Keeping him safe is something that she should be very invested in considering that, so its possible she did that entirely for practical or emotional reasons, rather than due to being the traitor.
It is still a valid point though, for sure. An agent of the Three Kings would have every reason to discourage that, and it is good to keep in mind for the future. But knowing When They Cry games, its also best to look at both sides of things and remember there's always multiple possibilities in most situations. In Umineko we were even tricked with Red Truths that were either vague, or only literally or metaphorically true, rather than both.
In the end, the important thing isn't to discard theories that seem obvious, or dismiss them because its only part 1 and you're probably wrong, but rather to question them. Why are they so obvious? What other explanations could there be? Why do I think this is true, and why might it not be? Conversely, why do I think this *isn't* true, and why might it be? Most importantly, don't seek to confirm or deny them. Looking for evidence that supports your idea is fine, but you should be looking just as hard for things that refute it, and of course looking for information that may lead to entirely new theories. Confirmation bias is a dangerous thing, and in my experience Ryukishi likes to exploit it.
i believe... that phase 2 will come out...
It will come out on october 4th 2025
nice
Jejak
BROS WE WON
Meta-Spoilers:
IT ENDED NOTHING
happy 2025
No me atrae ciconia. Siento que no tiene la escencia de realismo de sagas anteriores y que se pasó de magia y fantasía.
Read it before judging it.
Deberías leerlo, es la más realista en cuanto a muchas cosas, la magia y lo demás es solo un espectáculo extra
Sip, deberías leerlo primero. Trata temas sociales, políticos y existencialistas muy densos, mucho más realista a nivel macro diría yo.
Realismo... dejame recordar umineko... mmm... estás hablando por el culo, lee Ciconia
No tienes ni idea lo real que se sintio el horror de las cosas que sucedian, como cosas que me esperaria de este mundo en algun punto, dale una oportunidad aunque la fase 1 exponga mucha informacion estoy seguro que la historia solo se volvera mejor y lo que tenemos ahora es excelente de por si, de hecho por la misma razon que tu no lo lei hasta muy recientemente y creeme que no me arrepiento del tiempo que emplee leyendolo
sound quality is terrible. i suggest reuploading with sound quality that isn't warbling the fuck outta my ears.