such great atmosphere and visuals n music ... looks like THE movie to watch ... tells wat a artist strive to be ... definitely wanna watch this movie ...
Continued from previous post... As for what the studios would back, they backed Heaven's Gate, which was Cimino's offbeat personal project. That broke UA. They backed Star Wars, which was Lucas's offbeat personal project (I know that sounds strange, now, but no one expected that a homage to both Kurozowa & old serials would do what it did). One From the Heart and HG losing so much is why the industry is so corporate and uncreative, now. Those are the two movies to blame for how it is, today
Nope. Television was, and remains the main problem. Cinema had a choke hold on audiences for more than 40 years, making money hand over fist, becoming complacent. They didn't strategize for the future, underestimating the convenience and novelty TV brought to leisure time. Properly financed, with a long term return strategy, (as with a mortgage on a house) a slate of movies can make its money back given time. Poor management was the problem, not the films.
In this case, risking it all meant he spent the next 15 years making movies just to pay off the debts for this one. The lesson is: If you're going to make a movie THIS expensive, get a studio to back it instead of paying for it all, yourself. Unless, of course, you're George Lucas & have made so much from merchandising that you can AFFORD to spend this much of your own money.
It's hardly the only reason, and financial misfires had occurred both before and after. The real reason that Hollywood "got less creative," if you can even call it that, is because audiences no longer wanted the same kinds of films after Jaws, after Star Wars, after Indiana Jones, The Sting, Smokey and the Bandit, Rocky. They wanted lighter entertainment, special effects, crowd pleasers, and Hollywood was more than willing to follow a formula to deliver those expectations.
Kiss of the Spider Woman could hardly be described as that, and it did well. But, it didn't go seven times over budget. When you spend as much as Coppola spent on this one, you NEED a huge hit just to break even. If he'd used ILM for special effects instead of doing things like building that plane to scale, he'd have had the same results on screen much cheaper, & the film wouldn't have lost so much. Koyaanisqatsi didn't lose much because it only cost 2.5 million to make.
such great atmosphere and visuals n music ... looks like THE movie to watch ... tells wat a artist strive to be ... definitely wanna watch this movie ...
The most beautiful movie I'd ever seen.
I need to watch this movie... just because of the soundtrack. Tom Waits is my favorite singer/composer and Crystal Gale has an incredible voice.
I agree... one day it will be a classic... and we'll be able to say "we told you so" :-)
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As for what the studios would back, they backed Heaven's Gate, which was Cimino's offbeat personal project. That broke UA. They backed Star Wars, which was Lucas's offbeat personal project (I know that sounds strange, now, but no one expected that a homage to both Kurozowa & old serials would do what it did). One From the Heart and HG losing so much is why the industry is so corporate and uncreative, now. Those are the two movies to blame for how it is, today
Nope. Television was, and remains the main problem.
Cinema had a choke hold on audiences for more than 40 years, making money hand over fist, becoming complacent. They didn't strategize for the future, underestimating the convenience and novelty TV brought to leisure time.
Properly financed, with a long term return strategy, (as with a mortgage on a house) a slate of movies can make its money back given time.
Poor management was the problem, not the films.
its a sound stage! the airplane is incredable?! anyone know about that?!?
Very impactful shot!, The most I can say.
In this case, risking it all meant he spent the next 15 years making movies just to pay off the debts for this one. The lesson is: If you're going to make a movie THIS expensive, get a studio to back it instead of paying for it all, yourself. Unless, of course, you're George Lucas & have made so much from merchandising that you can AFFORD to spend this much of your own money.
@nightsdreamparadox why not, if he believes enough in his work? a true artist would risk it all
It's hardly the only reason, and financial misfires had occurred both before and after. The real reason that Hollywood "got less creative," if you can even call it that, is because audiences no longer wanted the same kinds of films after Jaws, after Star Wars, after Indiana Jones, The Sting, Smokey and the Bandit, Rocky. They wanted lighter entertainment, special effects, crowd pleasers, and Hollywood was more than willing to follow a formula to deliver those expectations.
Kiss of the Spider Woman could hardly be described as that, and it did well. But, it didn't go seven times over budget. When you spend as much as Coppola spent on this one, you NEED a huge hit just to break even. If he'd used ILM for special effects instead of doing things like building that plane to scale, he'd have had the same results on screen much cheaper, & the film wouldn't have lost so much. Koyaanisqatsi didn't lose much because it only cost 2.5 million to make.
i agree everrhing