5 Things Welding Schools DONT Want You to Know!

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  • #weldingschool #rigwelder #welding
    About 8 years ago I was at a cross roads. Go to welding school, or keep learning in the field. I researched for months on end, called welding school after welding school trying to get information. I asked about courses, what they would teach me, how much It cost and of course. Everything extra I wanted to learn was more money, by the time I had gotten a idea of the school I wanted to go to and the cost I was completely turned off by the whole thing. Forget learning to fabricate at most of these places! They simply didn’t offer it! So I kept on learning in the field. Was this correct choice? I’ll never know. But I’m debt free and make a decent living.
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  • @shawnlindquist404
    @shawnlindquist404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I have more hr on my machine using it as a generator so true 1/3 weld 2/3 weld

    • @MeltinMetalAnthony
      @MeltinMetalAnthony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      we gotta get a video of your work at some point!

    • @shawnlindquist404
      @shawnlindquist404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Meltin Metal Anthony charged the go pro and forgot it lots of cursing air arcing and welding at a insane speed

    • @thebeast654
      @thebeast654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shawnlindquist404 don't forget

  • @strayedarticle2838
    @strayedarticle2838 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I went to welding school after about 15 years in carpentery. My first job in a fab shop, I was immediately recognized as the best cutman/fitter, and they almost never wanted me to weld. I guess the moral of my story is, don't be too good at the things you dont want to do all the time.

    • @80s_karate
      @80s_karate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      sounds like they cornered you.

    • @campbellpaul
      @campbellpaul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Simply put, they knew they would not have to teach you anything that you could take to another job.

  • @rarebeagle2741
    @rarebeagle2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    I went to Lincoln electric welding school 12 years ago. AMAZING school. 80% weld time. 20% class. I came out with 5 certs and can weld better than most people i work with. You can make 20 a hour just welding. I learned to fit/machine . That is where the money is at. I make 70-80k a year working 4 10 hour shifts a week barley working hard at all. Working on breaking out in to my own thing like meltin metal.

    • @thegreycloset8349
      @thegreycloset8349 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Where is this school located?

    • @thegarbagegladiators4735
      @thegarbagegladiators4735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      good luck. make dat money!@

    • @essayess3
      @essayess3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which Lincoln though?

    • @rarebeagle2741
      @rarebeagle2741 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@essayess3 Euclid, OH main headquarters

    • @essayess3
      @essayess3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @rarebeagle2741 cool! Thanks! Good luck becoming independent

  • @Peter-V_00
    @Peter-V_00 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I have been hired several times as a certified welder, next thing I know I doing layout, fitting and fixturing 95% of the time and maybe 5% welding, the response from the company, "we can get welders all day but layout, fitter and fixture guys are hard to find", your video is on point for sure Anthony.

    • @user-mc6dg6qe8l
      @user-mc6dg6qe8l 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They wanted to hire a fitter to pay them like a welder

  • @williamthomas9463
    @williamthomas9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    You’re absolutely correct, sir. It never ceases to amaze me how many people think that when I show up on a job, I just fall out the truck and weld. As if everything is already cleaned,fitted and clamped together 🤦🏻‍♂️! I always say and have probably said here, “There’s very little welding to the welding business”.

  • @norevlimit
    @norevlimit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    100% correct! Fitting, measuring etc. is so important. This applies to anyone getting into welding - I am just a hobby welder and I could not believe the ratio of time spent measuring and cutting and fitting … figuring out angles. Keep up the great content. I bet you have save more than few folks some time and headache.

  • @clay2431
    @clay2431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I did 3 year apprenticeship in Alberta. 8 weeks of school a year which wasn’t too bad but all they teach you is welding 6” plates together in different positions so you do learn to run a bead but 90% of what you actually learn is at work. A lot of guys are lost after school cause they can’t fab and fit. Totally agree with Anthony.

    • @KrayessMcFly
      @KrayessMcFly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man I’m gonna have to disagree for the most part. I’m also an Albertan welder b pressure/tig welder and while I do agree maybe some fab work can be taught our program is considerably in depth in all aspects of metal. Learning about different alloys, metallurgy, learning how to read blue prints, learning tig welding carbon/ss/alum, stick welding plates all position with different rod types as well as learning pipe, you fit your own pipe. Mig&flux core, oxy -acetylene cutting projects. You need 4500 hours to complete our apprenticeship outside of technical training. what better place to learn than on the job? Considering Anthony himself has learned through practice on the job. If you are wanting to be fabricator type of welder, then find your way into a shop that will teach you just that. Seek the experience you want.
      On top of that our government PAYS for us to go to school. We pay like 900 dollars CAD a semester, plus like 170 bucks in books and the governments funds the rest of the 7gs a semester it costs and if you applied for the grants some semesters it costs you fuck all. If you had to spend HUGE money to go to a school then yeah it should cover everything but our program allows us to work learn the in depths of metal and it’s alloys.
      All in all I’m proud to be an Albertan welder, happen to think our welding program is pretty good all things considered. I barely welded through my apprenticeship but I learned to fit/fab/rig through my shop/industrial work throughout my apprenticeship. By the end of my third year I went for my b pressure in school and passed because of our program.

    • @DB-vk7rc
      @DB-vk7rc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, sorry to randomly comment two years later, but where did you go to school? I'm looking into starting an apprenticeship and dunno if I should go through the normal apprentieship with a good school, or try doing the full proper "pre apprenticeship" program and learning all there is to know before trying to forge a path

  • @michaelhovanec3300
    @michaelhovanec3300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Totally agree. I was fortunate that the local community College was also an AWS test facility and offered not just welding of all types but metallurgy, how to read blue prints, welding symbols, contractor law, and spent time on codes in the class, then hours under the hood. Had to learn how to measure stuff, cut and create per a specific plan set. Great way to supplement skills I already had

    • @richardvillanueva8786
      @richardvillanueva8786 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can second that

    • @user-tg9ue2cg3i
      @user-tg9ue2cg3i 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @michaelhovanec3300 where did you go? I have a 17 year old who's about to graduate high school

    • @michaelhovanec3300
      @michaelhovanec3300 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fullerton community college in Southern California. I dont think they are an AWS test facility any longer

  • @TexasKid747
    @TexasKid747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Robert Oppenheimer reportedly said, "A college degree is merely a license to learn." (paraphrased from an old memory) Once you get a degree (or welding certification) you then have to start the "real-world" learning process. Oppenheimer led the Manhatten Project to create atomic weapons, where many super-smart scientists had to create the next level of knowledge. Cheers from Texas!

  • @mcfwelding
    @mcfwelding 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Well said. Couldn't agree more. I took a few small votec classes for a year then I went and got real field experience working as a helper and now I'm in a great career. Most of what I learned was on the job and in the field!

  • @MikeP350
    @MikeP350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I got my associates degree in welding for free thanks to grant money. We learned all the different processes, plate and pipe tests in all positions, math, fabrication, metallurgy, machining, blueprint reading etc... even got my first welding job through the school. I do wish they taught us more fabrication skills though. Once I started working in a large fab shop building huge projects I had to learn alot on the job. I don't regret going to welding school though.

    • @ericddoran
      @ericddoran 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did you go to school at?

    • @MikeP350
      @MikeP350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ericddoran went to a University in Western Colorado. I would have gotten a bachelor's in welding if they offered it

    • @d4edxty
      @d4edxty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeP350 what type of fabrication skills did they teach you on the job? Very curious

    • @MikeP350
      @MikeP350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@d4edxty Different ways to find square, different techniques of manipulating a work pice via come-alongs or port-a-power, formulas to find hole spacing around a circumference. Ways to calculate unknown angles and rise to run. Alot of basic fab math and methods were not taught in the weld school I went to

    • @d4edxty
      @d4edxty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MikeP350 damn I’m horrible at math. Would I still have a shot at it if I’m bad at geometry and trig? I can read a tape measure, just bad at math.

  • @bfmchalfdead9804
    @bfmchalfdead9804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Couldn’t agree more with everything you said. Went to a night class for welding with welding experience already, I basically did it for tests an codes all were free with the teacher being an AWS CWI so that was worth the money. Then did an apprenticeship with the pipe fitters here an learned more in a month than I ever have. Def got a subscriber after this one

    • @jarrettb.7302
      @jarrettb.7302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve learned more from TH-cam than I ever did in 2 years of Welding school.

  • @ashes2ashes01
    @ashes2ashes01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i’m in welding school right now watching this and it gave me depression. luv ur vids Anthony!

    • @memester6668
      @memester6668 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did welding school go? I’m planning on going

  • @johnzudans7724
    @johnzudans7724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Anthony, I’m in full agreement with you on this subject. I teach welding at Project Lift a school for boys and girls at risk. I’m a volunteer I do not get paid. I tell my students that welding skill is just a tool necessary for completing any metal fabrication job. I also tell them that there are many skills such as math, geometry that must be learned in order to become a good Welder. It’s amazing to me how many kids today do not know how to turn a wrench or how basic tools work, but our society has made that happen with all the computer technology out there and the lack of interest in the trades. I guess that is why your profession is becoming a great place to be and why I am encouraging all my students to pursue a career in welding/fabrication. Thanks for the show and have a great day!

    • @imhungry2387
      @imhungry2387 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm not against technology like I mentioned earlier in a post. I have various knowledge in different things. I work on my own vehicles, build motors etc. Build houses etc. Operate heavy machinery I'm a computer programmer also having various skills has made me a very wealthy person blah blah blah. The problem is is when you have narrow-minded individuals that think this is the road to success. Don't go left. Don't go right? Stay on this road. That's why kids today have issues with skills or shall I say the lack thereof? America's schooling system is extremely crappy

    • @greenshado7108
      @greenshado7108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@imhungry2387 I'm so happy for you that you found a good mix! Congratulations! And wealthy from them? More power to you my friend! Any tips for a newcomer? I'm just starting out

  • @kentuckydirby8306
    @kentuckydirby8306 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has really made me think more on the school. Knowing the money you make and no school, I understand, and I want to learn more than just welding, just knowing how to tear down, rebuild, reinforce or build is just amazing

  • @JD-526
    @JD-526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for these videos. Exactly no one else puts this information out there and especially like you.

  • @rl808826npr
    @rl808826npr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been watching your videos for a while now and decided to subscribe because you really tell it like it is. I watch you do jobs and you always keep it real. Thanks. I was a certified diesel mechanic then turned welder when the boss figured out I could weld. I had only one welding class in diesel school and the rest I learned by doing. I worked for a company in SLC building aircraft tugs and I would stay late and practice my welding. The "old man" who was a cranky SOB took a liking to me because I was really trying to improve my skill and he taught me a lot. After 30 years of being a mechanic/welder I had a brain fart and went to college. Got a Bachelor of Science degree in Nursing and became an RN in the hospital emergency department. Two years there then worked at a clinic for another 8. Finally retired and now I am getting back into welding just for something to do. Slowly building my skills and tooling back. When you work for a big company they usually have all the tooling, saws, torch, welding machine etc. The one thing I learned after all that is I should have started my own business. You will never get anywhere working for someone else. You cannot run your own business if you are lazy or only want to work 40 hours a week. Keep doing what you do and know I'm watching you. wink wink

  • @johnnycarrazco8753
    @johnnycarrazco8753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Went to a good welding technical school. Taught all the stuff you talked about. Don't regret it but I did learn most I know from the different jobs and coworkers I've had in my life. Little tricks here and there. I also think that a big part of being a successful welder is actually falling on love with what you do. I love it and wish I could do it full time but can't seem to figure out how to make that jump. Finding your channel keeps me motivated though! Keep it up man 💪

  • @silviacerritos1487
    @silviacerritos1487 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    as a former student i totally agree with this video , i’ve graduated a while back and it’s been a journey even after …got to the point where i’m having to battle the gitters …seeing my hands shake because of not having the confidence / knowledge to be out in the field … but i’m not giving up …. going to seek all the knowledge i can … i just pray for the opportunities and patience along the road. GUYS DO YOUR HW i paid a tuition to know the basics

    • @MeltinMetalAnthony
      @MeltinMetalAnthony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately I know more people who went to welding school who don’t weld, than do. Just keep at it and take every opportunity! There was a podcast out by Joe Rogan recently where the guy talks about Archery. But what he says about getting a better shot, could be applied to welding also

    • @alexcards4637
      @alexcards4637 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stay strong buddy

    • @brysonw1815
      @brysonw1815 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most of the time people who go to welding school don’t weld, it’s the guys who practice at home who go out and weld

  • @UBERTUBERmods
    @UBERTUBERmods 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, keep ‘em coming, the honesty is refreshing

  • @bertdiver3708
    @bertdiver3708 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are My Brother from another mother! Its a good feeling to know there are people like me. Hyper, outspoken, down to earth and highly knowledgeable

  • @diegomarquez9505
    @diegomarquez9505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I sent my 18yr old son this video, he's on his way to a comm-college and enroll in the welding curriculum. I have personally told him similar concepts you mentioned here and I agree. Hopefully he watches it and grasps the concept. Thank you for sharing.

    • @Peter-V_00
      @Peter-V_00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Best way to learn about all types of welding is to master oxygen/acetylene welding (no not brazing) , gas welding teaches you puddle control, heat management, penetration and material properties, welding schools rarely teach flame cutting let alone welding..

    • @Phobjc
      @Phobjc หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is it going ?

  • @thomasclayon9143
    @thomasclayon9143 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seriously the best video i couldve ever watched before i take a step into welding school. I was looking at a local comm college. I watched this video, did research and decided against this particular one and found one 1.5 hours away that will teach what i need to learn. Thanks for this video sir. Helped out alot.

  • @nicklebac6753
    @nicklebac6753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Took a certification course at my community college (was very cheap), but only did fillet welds all day, learn more at my first job in the first week than I learned months at a school.

  • @prestonbaillargeon9276
    @prestonbaillargeon9276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anthony, Awesome advise I’ve been saying this for years. Our local school teaches to just pass the test for TIG. pipe welding they don’t teach any fabrication skills. Fabrication skills are priceless

  • @olivero9594
    @olivero9594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Anthony this was a great video! I am currently at SAIT in Alberta Canada taking welding school and your exactly right more people likeminded to you need to be teaching the meaning of this trade. Your videos have helped me out lots !

    • @sorandom2028
      @sorandom2028 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How long does it take in a welding school?

  • @shaneducsharm9228
    @shaneducsharm9228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another stellar video Anthony! Totally agree with everything you said. Like the old saying goes......"those who can't DO....TEACH".

  • @Bill-js1cg
    @Bill-js1cg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff Anthony! Especially the measuring comments!

  • @justintasht1067
    @justintasht1067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and priceless advice you’ve given can’t Thankyou enough for all the tips tricks and advice you give 👍👍👍

  • @damianmurphy-morris1941
    @damianmurphy-morris1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks you for this. ive been stressing to save up the cash to go to welding school on top of my day job ( electrician apprentice ). I ended up getting insight from a friend whos currently going to that school. so far he says its good but all he's been able to learn is how to pass plate tests. Im pretty sure they teach you how to bevel but certainly no other fabrication skills. i printed out the course outline and alot of the real word applications are just taught through a textbook theoritically. I'll just stick to hustling my way into a small company the same way i did with electrical and learn first hand from there. Whats great is that this school allows you to customize your training as well. Once i get better idea of the industry ill make a decsion whether to go and pay for training

  • @johnmelzer2576
    @johnmelzer2576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Career Journeyman Shipfitter now starting up my own business- I really appreciate your honesty my man you remind me a lot of guys i've worked side by side with for years!
    I fully agree with the difference of Fitters vs. Welders- at the shipyards here in VA typically you have just what you describe; a typical Shipfitter isn't just a "trigger puller" like welders- yes they weld but they are full blown fabricators, they install the job in location with whatever means is most effective and efficient. There is a reason why welders literally watched us bust ass moving superlifts into ships location while they just watched.
    When someone calls me a Welder its an insult just as the rest of the Shipfitters. In our line typical craftsmen who become welders are fitters who failed math/couldn't read a ruler or a drawing.

  • @josephlangs8781
    @josephlangs8781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So true. Good Fabrication skills will help you become a better welder. It just makes life so much easier when thing are properly fit and prepared.
    Preach on brother!

  • @HoodWeldingandFabrication
    @HoodWeldingandFabrication 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great one Anthony! Keep up the solid videos! The brutal truth is excellent!!

  • @Olgoofylamesquare
    @Olgoofylamesquare 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m in welding school currently and you’re 100% spot on, I learned a lot there but a majority of what I learned that is applied to welding was learned outside of school out in the field

  • @mcastellanos657
    @mcastellanos657 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking facts bro 🙏🏽 couldn’t have said it any better ! I’m a welder myself as well and let me tell you it does get stressful having to fabricate at times you really have to know what your doing it’s not just picking up that MiG gun and running it

  • @ChittyPA
    @ChittyPA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Anthony, I'm a Pile Driver myself. We typically get certified through our apprenticeship.
    Splicing pile is only crucial to the point of, it won't break. Same with all the welding that we do .

  • @mk27wrx
    @mk27wrx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on bro , speak the truth and yah mind it's the hard reality on how it works. Been watching quite a few videos of yours and your right all the way... Keep it up brother ... Nicko from Australia

  • @HiNinqi
    @HiNinqi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been trying to get into welding school the past 3 years but couldnt/cant afford it. After hearing you speak it sounds like I have a real chance of getting help to learn by hunting for a mentor/tutor this winter!

  • @calebleibold7644
    @calebleibold7644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man last year I went to welding school provided by the army and I had to go through OSHA 30. Also learned how to stick, tig, and mig weld. It was the best choice for me because I learn so much better from doing than reading.

    • @OVERCAPITALIZE
      @OVERCAPITALIZE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right. It’s hard to start if no one is gonna give you a hand. Community college is a way. Union is a way. Military the way.

  • @lifeonthefarm6001
    @lifeonthefarm6001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anthony’s candor😂 is why he is quickly becoming my favorite channel.

  • @dontheplumber.4406
    @dontheplumber.4406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, I love it. No fucking around, no sugar coating. Keep up the honest truth.!!!

  • @timothycaldwell3785
    @timothycaldwell3785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my school (just a community college) had the best teacher ive ever seen. we learned mig, tig, flux, stick 7018 and 6010, all processes flat, vertical and overhead, pipe in all processes, using torch, plasma, cnc plasma table, break, shear, you name it. it was a welding program but you learn a TON of fabrication skills also. It was actually a really hard program and I was a welder for 10 years prior to taking it. I am grateful for that teacher.

  • @PrincipalityofZeon
    @PrincipalityofZeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dropped my mechanics career to head to Gillette Wyoming for welding school. I looked all over the US for welding specific schools and chose WWA. They'll teach all aspects of what is welding plus 100% job placement after graduation.

  • @loganlawlyes1980
    @loganlawlyes1980 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this video, I know how to weld well as well as fit up and how to read a tape measure. I found this video looking for guidance on how to get certified to get employed and this video helped a lot. Keep up the good work👍

  • @bojack2740
    @bojack2740 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely informative man. You've many people valuable time. Thank you

  • @Robwelds
    @Robwelds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love your shit!!! I went to community college back in 2010 and all I’ve ever done is welding since I’ve welded in Washington Alaska Idaho and Montana! I think your video is spot on! I took my career pretty far but it’s not cause school it’s cause of my drive! Prob helps I worked at a fab shop during my welding school. Keep up the videos im a huge fan!!!!

  • @justinwilkens1620
    @justinwilkens1620 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this video is 2 years old but I just saw it and thank you. Thank you very much.

  • @stevenginnever5343
    @stevenginnever5343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some of the best advice I've ever heard. I was lucky enough to be in secondary school, (high school), in the 70's. We were tought metalworking, woodworking, technical drawing. All this has now gone in the UK. It was such a good grounding for the future. You can't have everyone working in I.T.

  • @gypsysteelworks5858
    @gypsysteelworks5858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agreed. I learned mig welding in a trailer factory, you'd be surprised how many people go into that job not knowing how to read a tape. Plan on going to the local career center to get certified, might as well take the basic course and advanced course while I'm at it since it'd be under a grand for all of it

  • @carloscardona6964
    @carloscardona6964 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Again, no nonsense advice...thank you sir.

  • @jimmysblacksmithing462
    @jimmysblacksmithing462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey good morning, somehow I’m a subscriber to your channel. Must’ve seen one of your videos along the way can’t remember. But now I will remember you. This is a killer video. You are the man. Been welding most of my life. I suppose Fabing as well etc. kind of like a Blaksmith. Not a professional arc welder. But you are a great inspiration and you tell it like it is. Thank you for helping so many people! Look forward to more of your videos. Stay well and have a beautiful day and keep up the good attitude. Jim

  • @cajunsphinxgaming1759
    @cajunsphinxgaming1759 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been a welder in a fabrication shop for a year and really wish I saw this video before I had started You're exactly right with it only being 10% of the work and I didn't even know about warping and all this stuff beforehand cuz nobody ever told me in welding school and it's good to hear someone mentioned the money cuz my girlfriend tells her friends that I'm a welder and they're all like oh he must make a lot of money well that's just not the case for a lot of welders

  • @pitchstadheim1403
    @pitchstadheim1403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I couldn’t agree more. I worked with two guys at a fabrication shop, one in his 60’s and one 19 years old and neither one of them could read a tape unless it was the half in or inch mark. I went to school for 2 years welding and 1 year machining at NDSCS and I learned how to weld, how to fabricate, how to read a tape and dial caliper. Learned how to tig, mig, and stick weld all types of metal. Only cost me around $35,000 for 3 years including all tools I bought.

  • @woodandsteelworksllc1662
    @woodandsteelworksllc1662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for saying straight up the way it is

  • @chrisewing3272
    @chrisewing3272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m happy to hear you say “not all welding schools.” I hate dealing in absolutes, but given that caveat, I agree with the rest of the information. Like all careers that exist, there are good teachers and bad teacher, good welders and bad, good schools and bad. As an instructor myself, I’ve quit a local college that wasn’t properly educating the welders and administration wouldn’t work or pay to fix it. I HATE seeing people taken advantage of, and that’s what I’m hearing you reflect as well. The high school is an awesome free opportunity for students to learn, and in the first year I push the welding heavy - mig, tig, stick, plasma and oxy-fuel cutting. That way year 2 I can focus heavy on the fab side, measurement, and warpage reduction, and holding tolerances, and know I’m not gonna have to hand hold them through setting up the machine or swapping out wire every day. I love the job training facility I work at also, because of how hard they work to get funding for every student. They have quality equipment, the opportunity to learn up to 4 different processes, and usually pay nothing out of pocket for the experience. Keep holding inadequate schools accountable!

    • @dolphincliffs8864
      @dolphincliffs8864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My welding course was two years now crammed into 9 months.
      Lack of welders they say. Lots of textbook material is getting skipped. I'm 51 going to school after leaving garage door install and repair after 20 years.

    • @campbellpaul
      @campbellpaul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I originally tried to get into a community college to learn metal trades as they teach more than just welding, but they lost my transcripts so I had to take a combination welding course at a tech college instead. Kids should graduate HS regardless whether they want to learn a trade or not, as unions sometimes require a transcript for algebra, etc. (depending on your choice of trade).

  • @pattyhchrist
    @pattyhchrist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for this video. i'm curious about welding and never had the chance to give it a try. I grew up in a big city & didn't get any hands on technical skills. I'm 33 now & going to back to community college for a free intro to welding class. For the first month we're getting an amazing lecture on material sciences, physics, engineering.. subjects I never got a chance to explore in high school. learning about safety and some of the extreme dangers, the risk that welders go through is really crazy. there should be more appreciation for the people that do this as a profession!

    • @MeltinMetalAnthony
      @MeltinMetalAnthony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely! Good luck on your journey

    • @Deested
      @Deested ปีที่แล้ว

      Same age here. About to start in a week

  • @hubertrobinson8825
    @hubertrobinson8825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU'RE making perfect sense some are only interested getting your money and don't give a damn if you learned anything

  • @mikeomaly
    @mikeomaly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info thank ya!

  • @mrksj79
    @mrksj79 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My friend you hit the nail on the head you’ve got to know how to fabricate. I’ve been doing this for 26 years and I’ll tell you right now everybody that comes in the shop looking for a job. All they can do is weld. If all you can do is weld unless you’re just starting out like right out of school. You’re not gonna stand out in a fab shop probably not even get a job there cause everybody in there can already weld.

  • @lucustravolta424
    @lucustravolta424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this helped me a shit ton im 18 i needed this knowledge thank you!!!

  • @jnic2003
    @jnic2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Im going through my local community college now, they have us take a dedicated blueprint reading , metallurgy, and dimensional metrology class. We started with stick, now going into mig then tig.

    • @anthonysalem9027
      @anthonysalem9027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same and u can take machining or other stuff on the side Im poor so the shit is literally free so why tf not

    • @Brandon-bl8ko
      @Brandon-bl8ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we have solid welding teachers at our local community college. but hes right in saying you should know what you want to learn. my local community college had a really solid intro to welding class. 14 weeks for 400 bucks. the amount of material youd use in the class was worth it alone. teacher showed us mig, stick, oxy acetylene cutting, scratch start tig and just explained how much more there is out there. not bad for one class.

    • @jnic2003
      @jnic2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Brandon-bl8ko yeah forgot to mention we actually learned both oxy cutting and welding.

  • @thegarbagegladiators4735
    @thegarbagegladiators4735 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kinda had the idea that I needed to learn how to measure and buy myself a couple of tools. Chop saw, band saw, etc. Then I just watched this video and it confirmed my suspicions lol.
    Thanks for the info.

  • @decoyspex890
    @decoyspex890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol dude you sound just like my dad.... And you are correct sir!!! My dad taught me fabrication many many years ago back when I was 18 and he told me fabrication is most important to know because welding can come easy afterwards. All these years later after working in different shops I can say that is very true. Learning lay outs and forming such as rolling and bending will make you much more money than just welding. I am 36 years old now and am working on starting my own sheet metal fab shop now. I never stepped foot in a classroom other than the shop. I did all my learning with my pops in the shop fucking shit up lol. This is awesome dude... Keep up the great work!!!

  • @richardhowe6218
    @richardhowe6218 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video! You seem to have a "real world" knowledge. I'm not a very good welder. I work in the steam industry. I've seen some really talented welders. You are right when you say that welding is only 10% of the job.

  • @tommasters9573
    @tommasters9573 ปีที่แล้ว

    i fucking love you man not only are you on point with everything you said but bc you tell it how it is not how you see it with no sugar coating.

  • @lar1664
    @lar1664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yup this guy tells it how it is and people need to realize that it really comes down to school of hard knocks aka get yourself out there and learn how the real welding world actually functions outside the trade school. Because its a whole another animal and you cant screw up too often or tour out of a job basically. Sometimes its best to start out as a laborer or a helper and really really pay attention to how the professionals do it because when the opportunity comes, then it'll be your time to shine. Oh and be good at repairing welds and cutting tacks off and redoing shit cuz you'll be doing alot of that too especially in fitting when stuff dont fit up right in other words dont be lazy because this trade comes down to blood sweat and tears and experience. Yup welding is just one part of it. Some places will hand ya a blueprint and some tools and say here ya go build this and weld it all from scratch with very little supervision. And when the mentor or supervisor or quality guy you work with says that's off too much, you better know how to fix stuff with a cutting wheel or you may have have to grind out or carbon arc out an entire weld because it failed ultrasonic testing. All i can say is it does take trial and error but its also learning from previous mistakes and just learn one thing at a time. Do a little better each time. But it does come down to doing it on an everyday basis. This trade isn't for everybody just like any other profession. Every welding job is different to an extent you may just be a production welder, or you may do both fitting and welding.

  • @xaymohoax8270
    @xaymohoax8270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This man is talking facts

  • @ferdinandbersamina6276
    @ferdinandbersamina6276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did not go to welding school, I was just a helper in one shop. Theres a guy asked me if im interested to learn welding and fittings. He taught me, I learned, I quit there find better place to improve my new develop skills. Now I make 120k to 140k a year or even more if i want to.

  • @jsquaredmetalworkandlogist4564
    @jsquaredmetalworkandlogist4564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Agree with everything you said…but what other professionals teach you how to troubleshoot or work through a process? Reality is…they teach comprehensive theory and the “how-to”…experience teaches lessons and lessons grow maturity and maturity grows experience. You have to know what you are doing with anything!! Another great video for the guys starting out. I took welding in Vo-Tech…my instructor was a 30-year Navy Retiree and taught us his experiences!! Walked away with all of the Certs and blueprint reading the high priced useless schools taught, for FREE!’ Ended up landing my first job at a company called Frog n Switch…building snowplows…from cut to paint…I was involved. Company paid for my Bachelors and Masters in mechanical engineering! A bit of knowledge goes along way…but those lessons, experiences and maturity take you somewhere!

  • @gordjohnson70
    @gordjohnson70 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not many welding schools ever touch on welding sheet metal. They only teach heavy plates and pipes.

    • @user-ol9se8ot7q
      @user-ol9se8ot7q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Body men are master sheet metal welders

  • @animalinsde06
    @animalinsde06 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Dana Carvey of Welding. Love the content dude.

  • @kurtwinkler1217
    @kurtwinkler1217 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also go apply to apprenticeships at your local union halls or any mechanical contractor that does new construction installs or retro fits

  • @jayrsosag54
    @jayrsosag54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best advice i herd💯

  • @codyfoley1895
    @codyfoley1895 ปีที่แล้ว

    I havent gone to welding school and am a production welder and make pretty decent money. Good video!

  • @ThePurposedWright
    @ThePurposedWright 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW! You said what needed to be said!
    I am a graduate ofTulsa Welding School I learned how to weld well but had to get schooled on the job!
    Now I have my own fab shop and love your content! Keep it up!

    • @MeltinMetalAnthony
      @MeltinMetalAnthony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glad it panned out!

    • @ThePurposedWright
      @ThePurposedWright 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MeltinMetalAnthony it has been a long road! I welded on a coal fired power plant and a C02 recovery plant In the 80s ended up in the Navy because it sucked to be a welder in Oklahoma in the 80s after the oil boom crashed. I got into automotive business and aviation. I operate my fab shop out of my house and love it! I really appreciate all of your tips!

    • @ThePurposedWright
      @ThePurposedWright 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, working for a major airline I have met a few of the literally world's greatest welders! They do just like you said, they write their own process for the manufacturer of certain parts to follow.
      One guy had engineers from a gearbox company watch him for a week to learn how to fix their own part!

    • @Nico-zl7tr
      @Nico-zl7tr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I start Tulsa Welding School in Houston next month. How was your experience there with learning to weld? I’m going for their Welding Specialist w/ pipefitting program.

    • @ThePurposedWright
      @ThePurposedWright ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nico-zl7tr like I stated I learned how to weld at school buy you will learn most on the job

  • @deant876
    @deant876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went to a community College for there 2 year welding course. I had been doing mig and stick for a few years before that, but I wanted to see what I didn't know. Turns out I already knew about of what they were teaching.
    But what I seen were the students that were only half interested in doing the work.

  • @yamahaMXrider125
    @yamahaMXrider125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My local vocational high school was great, cwi welding instructor and very knowledgeable from years of trade work. Safety was beyond the standard, wouldn’t allow you to mig weld besides to learn the basics but only a week or two then back to stick and tig, couldnt mig weld any class projects, wanted us to be proficient with stick and tig first before we did any mig welding, even then he would joke about it if we suggested mig welding. He said in production shops and quick little things yes it’s the best but if you plan to do repair work or high quality tig you won’t be any different than someone who never went to school if you only mig weld. besides learning joints and metallurgy basics etc obviously. i practiced with a family friend before school started and I as the only one not sticking rods every strike, so watching videos and getting a good cheapo welder to fail with at home will set you up to know the mistakes before you even touch a decent machine

  • @jeremiahkastner5445
    @jeremiahkastner5445 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was blessed to attend a really good community college, Cuesta College in San Luis Obispo, CA. They showed me blueprint reading, MIG, TIG, SMAW, FCAW, Brazing, Oxy/acetylene torch, plasma torch, Plasma CNC and CAD, they taught in depth about codes, reading measuring tape and so much more. REALLY good teachers, very humerous and down to Earth. Totally worth my time/money, it cost me less than 800$ at the time!!!!

  • @spicelife6338
    @spicelife6338 ปีที่แล้ว

    Valuable take

  • @georgegriffiths2235
    @georgegriffiths2235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    50 years in the trade 4 year apprentice in a shipyard trained in MMA, TIG, MIG, MAG, SAW, Atomic hydrogen, Air arc day release to college with compulsory night school for the last 20 years a CSWIP and CWS welding inspector of that 10 years at senior level can’t imagine doing anything else

  • @twinbrewers
    @twinbrewers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good shit bro 🤙🏻

  • @johnmcgowan9903
    @johnmcgowan9903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I do structural welding and have only been called out once, mostly visual inspection, unless a moment weld.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fantastic .......you da man Anthony.....

  • @dokgameplay
    @dokgameplay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live in Denmark, i took the education you would call a "welder", but here we learn alot of stuff, we get to do MIG - TIG - Electrode and oxy cutting. we allso learned how to fabricate, from using simple handtools to cnc pressbrakes and cutters. we basicly get to be "Fabricator, fitter and welder". This education took 4 years, not to mention it was free, with a salary the whole time. it would be 10 months in our "company" and 2 months in school, learning new stuff, more and more advanced every time. We allso learned how to do the "certified" weldtest, just so we were ready for them, would we ever need them.

    • @MeltinMetalAnthony
      @MeltinMetalAnthony  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats the case most of the times in that region of the world, more comprehensive skills training. here in the Usa there as been a lack luster with a lot of instructors ive come across, sometimes they are under equipped, other incompetent

    • @nitrouscatfish5827
      @nitrouscatfish5827 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MeltinMetalAnthony From what i've experienced apprenticeships seem to be the way to go. Im on my 3rd of 5 years, make good money, and learn all of that as well. We don't go super in depth with welding besides plate tests and sheet metal pipe type stuff at school but combined with practicing at work and home + advice from the journeymen i work with I've learned a ton.

  • @jakechamberlain2206
    @jakechamberlain2206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im in welding school. have bin for the past couple months.
    The accuracy of what you are saying is my predicament to a tee. luckily I was that carpenter/general labour dude before and still am during this school so I still use my square and tape measure but shoot..
    they aint teaching much.

  • @craigconway4093
    @craigconway4093 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this guy's energy. He's got moxie !

  • @benjaminkestner
    @benjaminkestner 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm am aluminum fitter at a shipyard and working my way to being a combo welder never picked up a weld gun before this year but I've been a carpenter most of my young adult life so fitting came naturally once I figured out the mig machine I've been getting better and better with my weldin

  • @TotalWarChronicles
    @TotalWarChronicles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoy ur vids Anthony! Greetings from the Netherlands!

  • @nicklebac6753
    @nicklebac6753 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m commenting while watching lol, i learned all the fabrication in the field and learned by a bunch of mistakes and realizing ( cross square, clamp down, watching for warping)

  • @georgeramirez5235
    @georgeramirez5235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good information I thought I had to go to a welding school to get my certification I have been welding for several years for myself and I want to do part time mobile welding

  • @jameswampler4073
    @jameswampler4073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a hobbie welder, I've been watching you for tips and learned a lot. That said a youngin wanting to learn the basics for free can join the military and pick an MOS that involves welding, or like my stepson, he went to job corp and they got him a basic free training that got him a job and the rest was OJT.

  • @50649tazyoung
    @50649tazyoung 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep, just welding coupons together. I mean we had to measure out our coupons but thats about it. Luckily when I started in a welding job I had about a year of machining. But alot of the fabrication came into play when I started at a company that builds railing, fences and gates. Not tough welding but a lot measuring and making sure things are gonna fit together right.

  • @archerwood1882
    @archerwood1882 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m enrolled in community college wanting to weld right now. I start in three days and my whole first semester is machine shop stuff. I weld multiple times a week for my own uses already but I want those certifications. Due to my grades and ACT score I’ll end up paying about $250 per semester and feel comfortable with that investment. I’ve spent more than that on rods and angle grinders.

  • @mat62178
    @mat62178 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched this video Anthony I’m super glad you put that into perspective, I’m in Florida to as I went to weld school a few years back and we were taught how to use all processes on plate and pipe and how fit as well as we learned how to properly read measuring devices also how to read blueprints as well and the school is very cheap to go the cheapest in Florida almost where we learned more the most schools do and I hate seeing people spend thousands of dollars for nothing at all since being in this trade I’ve Hurd stories of people spending 25 grand for two years of school and I’m welding right beside them and they can’t run a straight bead to save there life. And I’m trying to hold my breathe about it and not make those people feel bad with saying dude I literally spent 4 grand and turned out. After 5 years I am now a part time weld instructor at the same college I taught at. Which is beyond my dreams and it’s been amazing, welding really did save my life for the best. Thanks anything love your content my dude.

    • @mat62178
      @mat62178 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anthony sorry!

    • @omarudevoid
      @omarudevoid ปีที่แล้ว

      hey boss I’m looking for a good cheap school in central Florida any recommendations?

  • @calid_greko
    @calid_greko หลายเดือนก่อน

    im going to a welding school now in the two year program just got done with my first year where we learned to tig, mig and stick
    and fabricate. the second year is for pipe welding

  • @maxkammerer7231
    @maxkammerer7231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LOL----Estine, all schools are just a steppingstone to understand the basic things...
    It's a learning curved to everything during your experience.

  • @jesseburger7172
    @jesseburger7172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my community college does a welding program for a certificate, associates, and bachelors. the instructor was welding 25 years in several different variants from structural to pipe to plate. i went during covid and learned metallurgy, blueprint reading/drawing, mig, stick, oxy acetylene cutting and brazing. but wasnt able to finish due to covid closing the school down longer than the alloted time. Loved the school just cant afford to go back. I am struggling to get an oportunity around here bc everyone wants 4+ years of experience or doesnt wanna pay more than 15/hour.

  • @lukeromanfreeman
    @lukeromanfreeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree with everything, however you need to be able to read prints that is numero uno at most jobs where I’m from. Anybody can run beads as you said. Being in a classroom to look at the text book with it counting for credit hours puts you in the mindset to put effort into it and absorb it better than just reading the book alone. Extra exposure always helps.

  • @quickshot4050
    @quickshot4050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got lucky, my school taught everything, we learned how to do all processes, and we learned to read blueprints, and did a lot of fabrication projects ( basic stuff ) it helped me get my first fab shop job, where I expanded on my fabrication skills ( although I still don’t know shit about pipe ) and when I started my own welding business I gotta thank my welding school, I only payed $500, and I got the basics of everything and ofc we perfected our welding which helped a lot at the fab shops so I can perfect my fabrication, now I own my own business, I’m
    not the best welder by any means, however for what I do ( similar to Anthony ) it’s good enough, as long as it’s square and the welds aren’t absolutely horrible, I’m good, unless you’re in the pipeline or aerospace, being super-amazing at welding doesn’t mean much. In fact the first question I got during the interview at every fab shop I been to has been ( can you read a tape measure ).

  • @joshlee9280
    @joshlee9280 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad to be from alberta where we have a decent standardized welder education system