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The Inquisition, formally called the Holy Orders of the Emperor's Inquisition, is a secret organization that exists outside of the standard administrative hierarchy of the Imperium of Man.
The Inquisition acts as the secret police force of the Imperium, hunting down any and all of the myriad threats to the stability of the God-Emperor's realm, from the corruption caused by the forces of Chaos, Heretics, mutants and rebels, to assaults from vicious alien species like the Tyranids, Orks or Drukhari.
29:50 the "Average Inquisitor orders 3 Exterminatus a day" factiod is actually a statistical error. The average inquisitor orders 0 Exterminatus a day. Inquisitor Kryptman, who lives on his ship and orders 10,000 Exterminatus a day, is an outlier and should not have been counted.
Is that a cookie clicker reference ?
So this is what Statistics classes are good for in collage lol
@@0g0mogosepikworld31 it's a Tumblr reference
@@0g0mogosepikworld31 it's a spiders georg reference
To add to what you said, every single Exterminatus is subject to extreme scrutiny by an Ordo Minoris dedicated to the purpose, and 90-99% of Exterminatuses result in "Excommunication," which is of course code for "death warrant" for an Inquisitor. The Ordo Excorium does that, I think.
They Expected us! THEY EXPECTED US!! . . .
- A failed Inquisitional Inquiry into the Alpha Legion
THEY EXPECTED US!
-Last words of Alpha-Legion strike Force Alpharius upon Inquisitorial review.
Send in the forces of the Salvation Army!
Send in the Temple of the Mountain Beth Zion!
@@Eli-cb7tk They ****ed off before the battle even started!
@@RichardX1 JEWWWWWWWS!
"Crikey! It's the Inquisitorial rozzers!" - Last words of chaos cultist Jamius Maye
GOOD NEWS!
"CLARKSON" Jamius Maye when chaos cultist Jeremis Clarkson misplaced his bolter
"Oh, cock."
@@IdioticSynergy "Oh no, anyways." As Jeremis Clarkson loses yet another Battle Tank.
May is obviouly AdMech
Clarkson is inquisition
Hammond is a commissar
"CITIZENS OF THE IMPERIUM! WE ARE HERE TO SAVE YOU!"
"Oh Emperor, it's the Holy Inquisition!"
"FROM YOURSELVES!"
"Oh Emperor, it's the Holy Inquisition."
"I think your inquisitor is getting a big head."
"He's just under a lot of pressure."
"I'll be the new God-Emperor of this world!"
"...Maybe I'll go have a wee chat."
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"I have an idea. Why don't you take one of your sealed, chaos artifacts."
"Woman!"
"And use it against him."
"Don't you dare!"
"Like a RADICAL!"
Lotara: Fuck it, dropping the formalities. Kharn! Go for a walk.
You Simpleton are very clever with that reference XD
@@finnmchugh99 thanks
"A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time."
- Just about every Inquisitor.
Meanwhile in Eisenhorn, he and a lot of other Inquisitors have to sift through thousands of potential heretics after Imperium retake the planet from Chaos. It was a tedious and thankless job.
Fyador Karamazov from TTS and lore actually said that.
Bricky: "A demon host is a minor deamon inside a host."
Me: "MINOR?!" *FLASHBACKS OF CHERUBAEL ONE SHOTING A CHAOS TITAN*
Don't worry about that
I imagine most inquisitors don't have as powerful demons.
@@cheeseburger12 Definitely, cherubael was a Big boy.
Eisenhorn dont mess around. He also got an alpha legion space marine in his retinue 😅
In the last book from the plague wars trilogy there was an inquisitor who had his servant become a deamon host to a changer of ways and Gulliman had to interrogate it to learn Motarions plans
For anyone interested in delving more into this or any topic please consult the inquisition who are really good at asking questions, like “why are you asking questions?” And “exactly how many cyclonic torpedos would it take to stop you asking questions?”
Oh I love it when I played how many cyclonic torpedoes can you dodge I managed to get hit by only 4
Can I be an Inquisitor?
Do you accept the god emperor as the saviour of humanity
@@owengautreau1233 There are entire worlds out there classified as graveworlds entirely because the entire population simultaneously turned off the planetary power grid and hid behind the sofa-class bunkers because these words were transmitted over the vox. One sector reputedly converted en-masse to a chaotic cult just to rip open a rift into the warp and cast themselves in rather than answer the space door to the Ordo Yehovas ocular
Virus bombing is a very good way to stop someone asking questions.
I think the Inquisition didn't kill Kryptman because they knew he was right, unlike most Inquisitors that are "fired". It's not that he was crazy or power hungry, which he was, but that his methods were legitimately too ruthless. If anything, it comes across to me as them trying to wash their hands than an actual moral or ethical problem with him.
Yes. Based. He was correct entirely, and some version of his plan is basically the only way to truly beat the Nyds: starving them out.
@@TiernanWilkinson and throwing more firepower than biomass against them
@@TiernanWilkinson The worst part of Krypt's plan is he didn't even bother to even *try* evacuating the planets first. At most he got some of the nobility out, and little more.
Kryptmann is literally the inquisition token firing to show they do fire people who “go over the line” so they get cover for others like Fyodor “if it breathes, sire it’s set for the pyre” Karamasov
@@bennai2 Or convince the Necrons to help, as the Tyranids would fight them at a net-loss.
In Vermintide 2 there is a mission where you are going into a city infested by Nergle and skaven. If someone is playing the Witch Hunter when you see a vista of the city covered in rot and infested with demons he says "Whenever you question my methods remember this sight... this smell."
Good ol saltzpyre
@@user-BadUsername Sigmar bless his name
The 40k equivalent is Vraks
"The inquisition is too harsh!"
ONE guy is allowed to think outside the box for the greater good of the Imperium
*Several titan legions, astartes chapters INCLUDING THE GODDAMN WORLD EATERS, DEATH GUARD AND ALPHA LEGION, krieg regiments, and chaos warbands*
Every Inquisitor has a portrait of Judge Dredd inside a locket they carry around their neck and often ask “WWJDD. What would Judge Dredd do?” whenever they need inspiration
I think that's Arbites
@@Rage_Templar Arbites would be more Robo Cop.
Im just imagining the inquisition having movie night and they watch the JD movies. Either the Stallone version or the modern movie
@@ZyroShadowPony hands down, the newer movie is awesome. My dad watched it SEVEN times after I introduced him to it.
@@12SickOne34 i liked it too. Its nice that dredd is getting more attention
The line about "no heart / no brains" is adapted from Winston Churchill who said "If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're older, you have no brains."
Inquisitor Fyodor Karamozov is a reference to the Dostoevsky novel "The Brothers Karamozov" which has a sub-story inside of it called "The Grand Inquisitor". It's amazing, but preeeeeetty grim.
It's not that grim by Dostoevsky's standart
Suppose I have no heart
To add to what you said, the grand inquisitor is a story about how Jesus, if he came back to earth, will be burned at stake by the catolic church and the internal conflict of the inquisitor interogating him... so basically Karamazov in TTS
Also I just realized that poem is about Jesus returning.
Do you think Alfabusa read the story and decided to make Fyodor the vessel for Big Es return based on that? Cuz that would be amazing.
And if not...its still an amazing concidence.
Churchill's General Staff during the Second World War, said of him - ''He has ten ideas a day, one of which is brilliant. Unfortunately, no-one knows which is the brilliant one, including him''
My favorite fact about the inquisition is that if the Sisters of Silence find an Alpha level psyker they just go “Become an inquisitor or become throne food”
Honestly, having a stable job that, besides a rouge trader, mind you, gives you the most freedom to do stuff while having near limitless authority. Seems like a way better alternative than being soul raped into consumption by a writhing corpse. Plus having the bonus of being one of the most powerful types of psykers would definitely come in handy.
In Star Trek there are aliens called Cardassians. Their murder mystery stories always end the same: all the suspects are guilty, but guilty of different things. That’s what I think of when I hear “innocence proves nothing”.
I remember how that was supposed to sound boring when we hear it in the show but I unironically think that sounds pretty fun as a way to do mysteries
@@spooks1840 "The Never-Ending Sacrifice" has the same basic format as Three-Body Problem or Foundation, some of the best-written epic science fiction of all time. I would love to read Cardassian literature.
@@spooks1840 I agree, it would be an interesting novel. But the show wasn’t just making a joke about the book being boring, it was commenting on Cardassian society. (Another example is their trials have the verdict decided ahead of time, as their purpose isn’t to prove guilt or innocence but display the wisdom of the state).
I would think more Tal Shiar of the Romulans.
not really. They were just space.... meh... how do i put this... Germans of WW2
Tonight on Law and Order: inquisition division.
Inquisitor: "Exterminatus that planet!"
That was Law and Order: inquisition division.
See you next episode for: . . .
"Fighting demon cults with demon possessed people! Gotta catch them all!"
In the Imperium of Mankind, there are two separate yet equally important kinds of humans: heretics and everyone else. These are their stories. GONG GONG
In fact, being innocent proves just how guilty you are being an enemy of the Imperium
- An Inquisitor Probably
There is no such thing as innocence... just varying degrees of guilt
Exactly. an loyal subjects of the imperium will gave their lives no matter absurdity cause it maybe.
"You're not on trial for being a Heretic, You're on trial for being on trial"
Pyo
Pretty sure the first volume of eisenhorn has a very close match in it...
"There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court, a plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty."
- Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov
everybody: *Attempts to exert authority*
custodians: *deep breath* "But have you considered the safety of the Emperor?"
Inquisitors: "i'm here to interrogate heretics and kick chaos ass"
Inquisitors: *"AND I'M ALL OUT OF HERETICS"*
A true inquisitor is never out of heretics
@@greysonseymour8185 true but they're also never out of chaos ass to kick.
More like Sodomize chaos ass with the femur of the heretics I just had drawn and quartered
Out of heretics? Sounds like heresy to me.
So in the fifth Ciaphas Cain book Duty Calls their is a rogue inquistor that goes bonkers heretical and the friendly inquistor Amberly Vale declares him "Excommunicado Diablos" which would have led to his arrest but they just ended up killing so its possible to excommunicate other inquitors
he's dead because of the shadow light so technically, he dropped death before getting arrested
Theres been so many inquisitors declared traitor. Its a recurring plot point in so many books the have the inquisition in lol
@@wakingupat2pm349 yeah but then they get killed for being a heretic. Kryptmann just got excommunicated, but lived.
the _VERY_ friendly inquisitor Amberly Vale
i think it relies on a sort of merit code. Sure, an inquisitor could declare another inquisitor excommunicate but other inquisitors don't have to follow. However, not following may get any other inquisitor on the bad side of the inquisitor who declared the excommunicato.
This episode isn't about inquisitor Sherlock Obi Wan Clouseau
I'm severely dissapointed in you Bricky. I'll be writing a STRONGLY worded email to your lawyer of choice.
Edit: NOT EVEN A SINGLE MENTION, I'm adding another paragraph to the email
I still forget that that guy exists. Shame if TTS was still around I would have loved for that character in a flashback.
That's a grudin'
When Bricky stated the "Heresy is like a tree" quote, I wish he'd said it according to the Battlefleet Gothic quote; where the end is "Some may question my right to destroy a world of ten billion souls, but those who understand realize I have no right to let them live. No sacrifice is too great; no treachery too small."
Should've had the pre speech also.
"It is now that we have arrived to perform our charge..."
I've always seen it as malcador is waaaay more skilled than magnus but magnus would have a lot more raw power.
Magnus has the raw power for sure but lack of experience that malcador has since malcador is said to be a bit older than almost all of the other perpetuals emps worked with
Magnus definitely had more power after the heresy...
In other words, the importance of competence over ability lol
Poor Magnus ._.
I figure Magnus has better input/output and could have handled more, but he was built for the throne anyway. Magnus pre heresy was a "Weaker" psyker but only for lack of training. Magnus would have endured the golden throne without real long term harm, Malcador was never going to last holding it together.
@@henrypaleveda7760 Magnus was a generator in terms of psychic energy, but Malcador was a voltage converter. The unfiltered raw power that Magnus had could overload every electrical appliance in your house. Malcador's level wasn't that large, but he could control the amount of power he was using much more.
Gaunt once got one of his troopers out of trouble with an Inquisitor, Trooper Milo was accused of being a psyker over a gambling game but was able to prove he was innocent, much to the disappointment of the Inquisitor.
Milo is a psycher, but their excuse is that Milo cheated at the game.
...and then Milo became a Grey Knight
@@Lightscribe225 You're thinking about another psycher boy Zael Effernetti from Ravenor's trilogy. He became Grey Knight Hyperion.
Yarrick also bailed someone out from an inquisitor, through sheer testicular fortitude.
He also smacked that Inquisitor, you don't mess with Gaunt
Daemon: I am destruction incarnate!!!
Grey knight: bob
Daemon: how do you know my name!
Grey knight: I read the name tag.
Someone please make this into a comic
Sad that the whole “great kerfuffle” between the space wolves and inquisition wasn’t mentioned I feel like it could have been a good example to give about their interactions but Bricky still did a great job with the dark angel analogy can’t wait for more
Inquisitor: "It took days, but the investigation revealed that none of the accusations against you were true"
Citizen: "Oh, thank the Emperor! Does that mean I'm free to go?"
Inquisitor: "No" (BLAM!) "You are a heretic for wasting an Inquisitor's time"
Inquisitors are the real player characters of the 40k universe. They could make for an interesting RPG video game.
If your into tabletop RPGs Dark Heresy is exactly that
@@solair4553 I know about it that's why I specifically said RPG video game. Where you decide how you want to conduct an investigation with your limitless power. Are you a Radical or puritan? and you go across the galaxy. Maybe have one main quest mission, or a series of main major quests, but along the way carry out minor random mission too with interesting rewards.
Build a retinue of followers like rogue traders, stormtroopers, space marines, demonhost, sisters of battle, and maybe even xenos too. Find unique relics.
There is a lot that can be done depending on the scale of the game whether its across multiple planets or just one.
@@magnos_decimus Inquisitor Martyr but you don’t have that much freedom of choice + you probably already know about that game
@@1337_YbuR yup
@@magnos_decimus Sounds like you could just take the framework of Mass Effect and change the models and names and get exactly this.
Just one minor point, the Icon on the Sisters is actually the symbol of the Ecclesiarchy, for some reason they decided that the most common icon used by the two organisations would be nearly identical.
The Ecclesiarchy symbol has a sunburst behind the skull, where the Inquisition symbol has three bars behind the skull.
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It’s funny.
Being an Inquisitor is the closest one gets to having freedoms, a career path, and an actual impact on your society, in 40k.
You too could retire and have a wife/children/etc and children.
After maybe 200 years of dedicating your life to combatting the absolute worst horrors of your galaxy.
What a deal.
Or just live on an agriworld, or a pleasure world, or a civilized world and have a nice, peaceful life. Maybe you won't impact society, but you'll get to have a family and a retirement, unless your planet happens to be named anywhere in the lore, in which case prepare for orks/tyranids/chaos, but here's over a million worlds, so that's very unlikely.
By and large, life on the majority of planets in the Imperium is pretty good. It's just really unfortunate that the much greater majority of Imperial population lives on hiveworlds.
Dude. Rogue Traders.
They carry around a document that says "This b!tch right here is an RPG protagonist, and can do (almost) everything they want. Singed, Big E /Primarch /High Lord of Terra."
Bonus about the grey knights for Thousand sons fans: the first grand master of the Grey Knights, Jainus, was a host for a loyalist shard of magnus the red! Also the Grey knights and space wolves like each other about as much as the thousand sons and space wolves. Can really see that Thousand Sons lineage showing through.
"Gray Knights and Space Wolves are natural enemies!
Just like Thousands Sons and Space Wolves.
Or Dark Angels and Space Wolves...
Or the Inquisition and Space Wolves...
Damn Space Wolves, they ruined space!"
the months of shame episode when :troll:
Space Wolves have kill on sight if Grey Knights or Inquisition vessel appears anywhere near their territory after the Month of Shame. Grey Knight and Inquisition have largely opted to not go anywhere near the Wolves. Meanwhile Emperor's Spear also came down to the same conclusion and will shoot to kill any Inquisition and Mentors Chapter ship in their territory.
@@dyingearth inquisition: "ok wolves are only in a small area we can easily avoid the-"
Space wolves: *laughs in primaris successor chapters*
@@TonyRedgrave "You Space Wolves sure are a contentious people."
"YOU JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE."
I imagine the demon blade talking would eventually become too annoying to be tempting in any way.
The grey knight sits alone in his quarters perpetually on the verge of tears as a demonic voice in his head screams baby shark dododadodado for the 46th day straight
@@95keat Love the idea that the demon in the sword has given up trying to corrupt the Grey Knight and just insults and annoys him constantly. "Hey fuck you here's 40 hours of Rickrolling"
It's like it's just constantly elbowing you in the side "Hey wanna go traitor? Fancy some heresy? Hey, you feel any bloodlust? Hey? Hey? Hey?"
The daemon is going all day screming: "Allan! Allan! Allan! Hey, Allen! Allen! Wait, maybe you are not Allan! Steve! Steve! Steve!..."
There was this amazing excerpt in the Eisenhorn series, which shows that many inquisitors are (at least initially) morally decent people. Eisenhorn comes across a bunch of imperial guard veterans who have ptsd. They are basically living as homeless people, talking about random stuff and praying to the Emperor. Eisenhorn comments on how they were forced to become this way because of their faith in the Emperor, and how it is not their fault. He goes and tries to offer them help to have a decent retirement life. The soldiers are so paranoid because of their experience in war, that they do not believe him at all, and thinks he is going to kill them. Eisenhorn is then forced to kill them in self defence.
Are you talking about the investigation of random dead citizens being found hidden behind walls, years after they were murdered?
Where Eisenhorn first think that it may be some cult, but soon after finds out that those murders were done by bunch of ex-guardsmen who after many years of dutifull service and fighting against chaos were released from army and sent back to their planet?
They were not homeless. They just all gathered in one abandoned church because they were pursued while at the same time it was anniversary of their old regiment. They were for years killing few people here or there because due to their paranoia they suspected them (probably incorrectly) to be heretics. Eisenhorn tried to negotiate with them, but in their paranoia combined with desperation for recognition (that their deeds were justified and reward worthy) which they did not get, they started shooting first. At which point Arbiters who surrounded them beforehand simply killed them all.
From Missing in Action, great short story
"The whole affair left me sour and troubled. I have devoted my life to the service of the Imperium, to protect it against its manifold foes, inside and out.
But not against his servants. However misguided, they were loyal and true. However wrong, they were shaped that way by the service they had endured in the Emperor's name.
Lund cost me my hand. A hand for a hand. They gave me a prosthetic on Sameter. I never used it. For two years, I made do with a fused stump. Surgeons on Messina finally gave me a fully functional graft. I consider it still a small price to pay for them.
I have never been back to Sameter. Even today, they are still finding the secreted, hidden bodies. So very many, dead in the Emperor's name."
Eisenhorn is one of the bravest, toughest characters in the setting, yet even he can't avoid the melancholy and regret of something like this.
Eisenhorn was, forever ago. That's his whole thing: the extremely powerful excommunicated radical inquisitor which still fights for the imperium in the shadows.
The greatest inquisition acolyte interrogator Greg Sergeant, recommend looking this guy up.
His quartermaster is legendary.
@@katastrophe8321 he just always had fresh laz packs and anything else. Just the little problem with being identified as a grot.
Greatest team of acolytes in the entire Inquisition, i will die on this hill
@@MiguelSanchezDelVillar not if you remember the rules of being in the inquisition written by Greg Sergeant
@@trojans5o i mean, they are still alive, that's more than most of their old bosses and companions
A good point to make about the Inquisitors being more normal than we make them is that 40k has a lot of more "normal stuff" in it. There are worlds were people live normal lives, have normal jobs, live in normal living conditions, almost never see war or brutality, etc. This then extends to things like Inquisitors, Guard, Governments, even Xenos. Where there is reasonable, down-to-earth "normal stuff" going on with normal people.
We just never hear about those because 40K is about the grim dark, and "normal stuff" isn't exactly of interest.
Speak for yourself. I for one personally can't wait for the story of: Tim the PDF reservist who guards a peaceful agri-world for decades, finds love, has a family, retires, and dies in his sleep not eaten by Tyranids.
Random Imperium citizen: "I'm sorry, I didn't expect an Imperial Inquisition."
Inquisitor: "NOBODY EXPECTS THE IMPERIAL INQUISITION!"
My favorite "Inquisitor getting dick-slapped by Astartes" lore story is when an Inquisitor got caught snooping around the Flesh Tearers' flagship and discovers their Death Company barracks cells and gets caught by the Flesh Tearer librarian and the result was a mind transfer into a Death Company marine and it turned the Inquisitor into a drooling vegetable.
Gabriel Seth: "Kindly inform the Inquisition that their representative was like then when he arrived here"
Another was when Seth sent a group of death company to a merchant medical ship to have all the people killed knowing the black rage would do so as there was a Inquistor on the ship that fucked with Seth
At the beginning of a Baldermort video an inquisitior catches on to the antics of the dark angels and confronts a named dark Angel captain or something. The Dark Angel of course murders the inquisitor and his entire retinue. Hysterical to listen to as a DA fan.
There is no such thing as innocence only varying degrees of guilt -Dawn Of War
This is a thought experiment of mine.
Lets say one of the Emperor's Golden Boys (A Companion/Adeptus Custodes) was sent to guard a person. Now that person in his work somehow angered an Inquisitor (who wants said individual dead), but said guy is still under the protection of the Adeptus Custodes.
Who wins?
Logic says Adeptus Custodes will win ... but this is Warhammer 40K.
Probably an Aquilan Shield Custodes, so if it was a competent Inquisitor they’d probably drop it until the dude served his purpose and the Custodian leaves him. If it’s an Arrogant inquisitor he’s dead.
yea the golden boy would win by default every time. the inquisitor would get turned into a jill sandwhich if they tried any shit.
'Hello vindicar assassin, i need a job done'
Something along this line actually happened. An imperial guard general was set to be executed by the commisariat, but then a custodes showed up so the commisars dropped it. Decades later, the general has become a hero, and has served his purpose. As soon as the custodian left ta commisar shot the general dead.
I imagine this is about what would happen.
@@thatromanfella8377 The custodians have blood games, they are no strangers to assassins.
To quote the 'veteran of the Blood Games' ability, what better way to defeat an assassin than to be one yourself?
To the part where inquisitors know about Chaos, traitor primarchs and so on is not completely true. In the first book of vaults of terra the Main character, an interrogator and soon to be inquisitor, doesn't know that the 9 traitors were primarchs - only know them as the 9 Devils
But you’ve also got Eisenhorn listing Horus as a famous Traitor, so at least some know about the Primarchs.
@@starwarsnerd100 yes some knows, seems like it's acquired knowledge rather than part of the status quo of what an inquisitor knows
Edit: also check out the bequin novels cause they show that there is still artifacts from our own time out there (when she sees a CCCP space pot)
To be fair, he's not an inquisitior yet.
Limitless authority?
'LOL' said Grimnar 'LMAO'
Something to mention on the “0% of chaos corrupted grey knights”: there is story of a “silver knight” going through all the rings of the realm of slaanesh but once he got to slaanesh (who took the form of a innocent boy) he broke down and became corrupted. Granted, we don’t know if it’s a grey knight but it’s the popular theory (some even theorize it being Draigo)
There is a game called inquisition: Martyr it has some problems as a game, but it's a very good example of what an Inquisitor can get up too. Except the detective part kinda lacking
Anyway looking forward to more good work all
I've got that on PS4 but performance wise it ran like shit and the split screen co op was very limiting sadly
One of my favorite warhammer games
It really is cool. Until you see a space marine get sliced in half in 1 attack and you immediately dumpster that same enemy. As an inquisitor...
It's not entirely lore appropriate lmao. But who cares cause that game is rad.
"Until you see a space marine get sliced in half in 1 attack and you immediately dumpster that same enemy. As an inquisitor..."
(Look at Inquisitor stats in Warzone Octarius, remember that Chaos Space Marines are still 1 wound, close book)
Nothing wrong here.
This actually helps out with the first hammer and bolter episode as Kyamaro was trying to change fate by trying to figure out Eldar farseeing and endlessly killing terro card readers. so he's radical, then he had another inquisitorial group board his ship which he eventually discovered that they came to stop and kill him as they are puritans and only the Emporer can do such things, and then to round it all out a callidus Assasin was in the group secretly as a scribe and tried to kill kyamaro after he killed the inquisitor and his group. in the end, the Assasin tricked him into being in direct line of sight of a Vindicare assassin and he was killed then the Cullexes took the form of his body and is him now, I guess that's a good example of how to deal with an inquisitor gone batshit
Got an actually for bricky. An inquisitor in a Ciaphas cain book was excumnicated and was given the chance to surrender. But then they died soon after
Cryptman did nothing wrong.
Also, when the alternative is extinction, only a fool argues the means of salvation.
Lastly, the prohibition on invention is dictated by the AdMech, not the Imperium, which is almost entirely reliant on the former for high tech industry.
Does the Imperium itself actually try to develop some tech or is that also banned by the treaty between the Imperium and the AdMech?
Inquisitor: mmm . . . What type of exterminatus should I use today?
Fire? Toxic fallout? Nukes? Virus? Orbital bombardment? Planet cracker (sorry Cadia)?
I hope this leads into the conflict between the Inquisition and Space Wolves.
Or the fall of the Celestial Lions and that whole story on Armageddon.
That could be months away still though, which is a shame.
@@Gormathius Ah, I see what you did there...
Inquisitor walks into chapter master Azrael’s quarters, “excuse me sir I smell something heresy, i have proof that of Dark Angel who have been consorting with the forces of chaos!”
The door to the room closes behind the inquisitor as Azrael looks up from his desk, “Oh have you?”
That inquisitor and his retinue were never heard from again.
Great bit of fiction similar to this.
It did not go well for the inquisitior.
Kinda crazy that this episode came out right after the US supreme court made a ruling on a death sentence say " proof of innocence is not enough".
...is this hyperbole?
(I'm not American)
Don’t forget, if someone asks ‘what’s your order’ the proper response is a bolt shell to the face. Unless there’re not expendable. Then it’s the Ordo Obscuris if they must have an answer.
Whenever anyone says "radical inquisitor" I think of an inquisitor doing skateboard tricks
Given there was a whole game to represent it Inquisitor on Inquisitor conflict is a more of a thing than it's suggested here. That was where the whole radical/puritan split came from where often a puritan Inquisitor will notice the activities of a radical Inquisitor and rush to burn the obvious traitor that's lugging around a daemonhost. Meanwhile radicals when not trying to save their oh so flammable skin will try to manipulate and redirect puritans as they tend to be more blatant sledgehammers so the radical can operate even more undetected than they might normally be. The Inquisitor trilogy (the Abnett one, not the gloriously batshit one) was basically about that slide from puritan to radical.
I had a Dark Heresy campaign that the GM took note of our possible heretical action (Demon summoning , xeno relationships and among other stuff that seemed reasonable at the time). He sent a Evsator Assassin after us when we reached a certain level of "heresy"It matched with the lore so we agreed with his actions.
So, basically, an Inquisitor ship it's like the Normandy from ME.
Makes me think why there is no Mass Effect like 40k game with an inquisitorial theme?
another faction the Inquisition rarely messes with is AdMech: they are technically not the Imperium, just allies to it. I read somewhere that Inquisitors who poked their noses a little too deep into some AdMech projects had sudden unfortunate "accidents", like a "malfunctioning" cargo servitor dropping 3 tonnes of ore on them or an unfortunate energy discharge that just so happened to hit the Inquisitor
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It also important to remember exterminatus is such a big deal that pre heresy even the primarchs needed permission from the emperor to use them.
But the inquisition speaks with the voice of the emperor soooooo *smash button*
Face-smash
On this episode of Bottom gear :James commits Heracy, Jeremy executes the local planetary govenor and Hammond accidentally summons a Keeper of Secrets while watching Anime.
Sounds like hammond
Hey DK, the first grey knights grandmaster was from the thousand sons. Just thought you might want to know.
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I'd like to remind everybody that people turned a semi-pleasent talk between alies, into Robot Ghillie-suit trying to figure out if half-elves are possably conceivable in the 41st millenium...
Yeah, though that "semi-plesant talk" were the nicest things members of different races had said to each other ON RECORD in 40k. EVER.
@@mikaelantonkurki Fair, but to go to "sittin in a tree"...
@@matthewyeldig4608 is 100% fair.
@@mikaelantonkurki Ya know what, your not wrong! I can kinda see the line of reasoning now that I've thought about it! Still feels a little like jumping the gun, but I kinda get it!
@@matthewyeldig4608 That is understandable.
Taken to consideration that Big E planned magnus to sit on the throne at first before Malcador suggests that Magnus was more powerfull.
Youd reckon with all the eye implants they'd have one that just automatically threw up a demons name from their library. Like a text alert 😅 "ayup bealzeltits is here"
"You have jiggled your last wiggle bealzeltits HYAH"
Just listened to the Watcher in the Rain.
Holy shit that was excellent. Bone chilling. I laughed at the beginning, nearly weeped toward the end, and the ending made me horrifyingly happy
Anyone know what the video of all that animated moving machinery/ weapons is that plays before the stream starts?
please consider reading Helsreach for the next book club, it's an incredible story and the TH-cam movie version is also a great watch - would make for a perfect read/watch for DK
A horrible inquisitor that I don't hear being brought up much: the one who screwed over the Celestial Lions. I can't remember his name but he's been abusing his power to destroy a loyal chapter simply because they didn't like him.
watcher in the warp, the person ended up being a demon host and the inquisitor asked themself if they caused the demon to be there by their actions or if the demon was there, to begin with and if it is their actions that cause this sort of thing. the demon host in particular as they were being possessed cried " how did you do this to me?" to the inquisitor. Grimdark sometimes does'nt cut it to what these stories are.
The Inquisition do in fact scout out members for the Death Watch. They come to your Chapter and say: "We demand Brother X to join the Death Watch because we read the reports and he has exactly what we need. Refusal to comply will put your Chapters loyalty into question and through thorough investigation." And so Brother X will go on to join the Death Watch for a single mission, maybe a few months or even years, sometimes they are inducted into the Death Watch until the rest of their life.
Although, even if they dont, every chapter needs to give at least one of their own to the Deathwatch
If I recall in the Eisenhorn series they excommunicate an inquisitor that has fallen to chaos. Eisenhorn and the conclave of other inquisitors made sure that there was a representative from each major ordos to give the act legitimacy.
Might I suggest making this bookclub choice a trilogy? The first heretic leads into know no fear, which centers around the WBs absolutely mowing down the blueberry bush (obv a delight for DK), which in of itself leads to the conqueror's abs?
Don’t forget about the inquisitors who fell to chaos or that one that defected to the tau I hope next ep they talk about that a little bit
I wasn't expecting this
Nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition!
@@Maribro4 NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION
DK: I like Thousand Suns so I probably like Grey Knights
Bricky: yea well they hate each other so…
Me: *laughs in AdMech and Necron fan*
NOBODY EXPECTS THE IMPERIUM INQUISTION!!!!!
Marines cannot just say they want to join the deathwatch.
The Death watch asks the contributing chapters for men to serve a term of service when they need more more and the Chapter masters choose from amongst the veterans of the chapter. The choice the marines get is to just serve a term of service and go back to there chapter or to stay on a permanent secoindment.
Some famous Astartes that have served with the DeathWatch.
Captain Uriel Ventris of the the Ultramarines when he was a Sergeant.
Captain Alessio Cortez of the the Crimson Fists.
Captain Batlhasae iof the Dark Angels (when he was a sergeanrt)
Chap!ain Orton Cassius of the Ultramarines (later the Ultra Marines Master or Sanctity)
Captain Artemis of the Mortifactors.
Drenn Red blade of the Soace Wolves
Maximillian Voss of the Imperial Fists(the marine who was famously ordered to stop gaining muscle mass because he was getting too swole for his armor)
There was a comic series a few years ago where an inquisitior went after the Dark Angels over the Fallen. It didn't end well for anyone.
I usually describe humanity in the 40k as a galactic race that suffers from PTSD. In the golden age they spread amongst the stars. Happy, innovative and open minded. Then technology rose against them via the Men of Iron and almost whiped them out. Sparking the fear of innovation. Then their empire was shattered when warp travel became impossible and horrors descended upon isolated worlds. Spawning the fear of Xenos. Then the Emperor went out and reforged humanity amongst the stars and found the signs of alien horror. But circumstance conspired against humanity and through the betrayal of Horus, humanity lost faith and trust in itself.
When humanity looks at technology, it fears the rise of the Men of Iron. When it looks upon the Xenos, it fears the predators and horrors of old night. When it looks upon its fellow man, it ses traitor, failures and incompetence. This is my explanation why the Imperium almost unilaterally and instinctively goes for the darkest and most gruesome option first.
It is what it thinks will save and protect it from extinction.
The Imperium exists as it does, ironically enough, due to an exteme lack of faith in their fellow man.
And then there is Cognitae, which is a Chaos mirror image of Inquisition, and of course it's started by Inquisition, albeit some believe it to predate Inquisition as well.
there a short story of Horace The Kahn and Alpharius getting absolutely humbled by Makcdore. So he had to be stronger than Magnus.
This is surprisingly topical, considering Republicans within the US Supreme Court just decided that innocence quite literally proves nothing.
The fuck are you babbling about?
I think there is also a inquisitor quote how if humanity knew of the chaos gods it would be BAD, since so many would promise themselves to chaos to just get a better lot in life.
If I'm honest the whole thing Whit the Emporium being really freaking evil is mostly the fault of the emperor, like he is the one that made the hive city he is the one that make the mechanicus not invent new cool shit, oh and also, he is the one that for some freaking reason didn't keep a perfect STC, the entire suffering of the 41 millennium can be directly linked to the emperor
not to spoil for the guys but:
The First Heretic shouldn't make anyone LIKE Lorgar.
It should make you sad for who and what Lorgar could have been.
And it should make you want to spend eternity curb stomping Lorgar and Erebus in the balls
I am sure that more inquisitors than just Kryptman were excommunicated.
Eisenhorn is clearly excommunicated in the more recent books. I think that was also written more or less directly and if not, the book title "Hereticus" at least gives a very strong hint ;) Oh, and let's not forget Jaq Draco. I think he was excommunicated too?
I have to vehemently disagree with the idea that the imperium has survived “in spite of” itself when it is in fact the opposite.
The only reason they’re still kicking around is because they are so ruthlessly pumping every single resource they have into the war on the galaxy.
That’s not to say they couldn’t do things better, but the entire point of the setting is that everything is world ending. Against that kind of enemy, YOU have to be world ending, and for the imperium, that requires quantity of weapons and not care for its people.
IF they hadn’t lost all their technology then they could have been like the Votann (who we don’t even know the whole story for yet so the comparison is moot), but the fact is they lost it to the war against the men of iron.
And let’s not pretend the Tau have any valid input on the galaxy at large. They are incredibly lucky to still be breathing.
The only thing you can really fault the imperium for, ignoring the moral arguments at least, is their absolute denial of evolution. Invention, change, study, these things do not happen at nearly enough of a pace to support mankind’s presence in the galaxy. But even then, after the men of iron, I can’t really blame them. I will, but I get why they are that way.
Even the inquisition, and the tension that surrounds heresy and watching your peers for treachery is simply a product of the world they live in. This is a world where actual Satan-gods are moving to corrupt your population into falling into some horrible damnation, be it one of murder, decay, or much worse things. And they do it by CONVINCING you that you want it. This would still happen regardless of whether the galaxy was a hellscape or not, because the populace is so widespread and uncountable, that the chaos gods will always be decently powerful, which means they will have enough influence to pull people to their causes, regardless of living conditions.
Bricky is right, you don’t have to agree with the imperium. Nobody should. But what they do is completely natural for an empire to be doing in such an extremely miserable setting as 40K.
Agreed, I hate that take. It's far more interesting to me if they don't want to be such pieces of shit but do it anyway because they have no choice.
Man when Bricky mentioned Helsreach as an option I got so excited, it was my first 40k book! Actually listened to it shortly after listening to the first episode of this podcast😊
"...some may question my right to destroy a world of ten billion souls. But those who truly understand realize that I have no right to let them live. No sacrifice is too great, no treachery too small."
-unknown Inquisitor, exterminatus cutscene, Battlefleet: Gothic Armada
On what they were saying near the end about the imperium doesn't need to be this evil to survive and they could be good if they tried to be.
the imperium tried that, it led to the horus heresy
Not reaaallly? It was more or less because BIG E didn't tell his sons what he was up to making quite a few them very suspiscious of BIG E. Then Chaos said: *I can milk you* Showed Horus visions of the current timeline and horus said: "OH SCREW THAT."
It really depends more on what you think is more grimdark. That the imperium is needlessly oppressive or that it needs to be this oppressive. Both have evidence for and against them.
It all depends on if there are better ways to root out chaos. Humans in general are extremely easy and filling marks for daemons compared to the Tau, who get to be a lot more lax on the whole chaos corruption thing. If the Tau did have similar problems, I have to wonder how they would purge their ranks?
@@zacharynetzer819 I'll admit I've not read too much on tau, have none of the humans given birth to a single psycher under their rule?, especially after the great rift tore the galaxy in half.
It only takes one moderately powerful child to doom an entire planet.
Horus heresy didn't make the imperium THIS and it wasn't perfect the either (not that any environment ever would be), it was the efforts of lorgar and guiliman post heresy and the power grabs that took place in the following centuries that made it what it is.
"What kind of law is this?"
"Laws? laws are Illegal here, GUILTY!"
After much deliberation I have decided to finally drive head first into the hobby and I'm getting the necron battle patrol tomorrow. Anything I should be aware of or any advice?
Inquisitors tend to go on unplanned spacewalks on dark angel ships
Kryptman did nothing wrong.
I love how Majokill once described the Inquisition: it is an asshole of the Impirium, but if the asshole wasn’t there the body would get full of shit and die.
I love that in the 8th edition Grey Knights Castellen Crowe’s sword has the exact same attack profile as if he just slapped you with his bare hand
Also, while no gray knights have been possessed, there is at least one that is, possibly only for the time being but probably permanently, working for slaanesh, and this guy might actually be kaldor draigo himself
I feel like the most common answer to the question "What happens to Inquisitors who cross a proverbial line?", would be "Nothing. They just keep getting more deranged and paranoid, sowing ever more misery and destruction, until eventually they self-implode by coming into conflict with someone more powerful than they are".
Same take about Grey Knights: if a jedi in the star wars universe turns to the dark side, are they still considered "Jedi"?
I think it's also a big honour to join the deathwatch, and they recruit from chapters that may have fought a lot of xenos in the past more than chaos so to say. And in some cases a chapter is almost entirely wiped out and there isn't enough geneseed to remake that chapter so the few survivors join the deathwatch. Or members from a renegade or fallen chapter might join as a blackshield (no chapter markings).
But yeah I cant wait for the deathwatch episode :)