So glad you have posted this, Stadler is a brand most of us don't know about, I bought my Stadler gear 8 years ago and its still 100% waterproof. The factory will take your gear back after a spill or Rip and fix it or make alterations should you need them! They also make custom gear and gloves! Price is as good as the other high end gear but you get a made in Germany Family company! Check it out before you buy something made in Asia. Always check origin when buying goods, it makes the difference !!
Not just the reviews, which are incredibly detailed and a cut above the usual superficial overview. It's the insights on the business and what goes into producing these garments and why things are made the way they are that make this channel special. 👏🏽 Oh, and Mark, of course.
I’ve actually seen a similar sleeve scoop (if not quite as nicely done) on a cheap RS TAICHI textile, and I was super impressed with the idea and baffled why nobody else was doing something like that. Cool to see that Stadler took that sort of concept and refined it further.
Hi Chris, I visited your Guildford Store a couple of years back on a trip from Australia and bought the Stadler supervent jacket and matching pants. I ride very day and agree with pretty much everything you've said about that suit. Personally I don't however find it particularly uncomfortable, maybe because I ride a GSA so I'm not hunched over the bike. The quilted liner in the jacket works for me in the 'hub' seasons and believe it or not I have a warm and safe jacket and pants that I use in our Winter. My commute home is in the small hours of the morning when it can get down below 5C, factor in some wind chill at expressway speeds and the warm and safe makes for a very comfortable, relaxing ride. The venting in the Supervent is fantastic and I particularly like the double placket however no amount of venting works especially well when our ambient mid afternoon can be above 45C, (I've seen 48!), and I'm in slow moving traffic which is when I typically commute to work. On those days I wear an ice vest under the jacket to keep my core temperature down. The only area I would improve on the Supervent is the fit of the collar which unless I cinch it particularly tightly to the point of being uncomfortable, allows air to funnel in at the back of my neck. Nice in the summer, not so nice in Winter. In addition, occasionally the velcro closure at the neck is released by the bottom of my helmet rubbing against it as I turn my head to look left/right. I think additional soft padding here would help to compensate for different body shapes and in fact this was the only area where I thought the Rukka Nivala jacket was a better fit for me. I also have the storm collar but to be honest I find it a bit of a faff to close properly, the magnetic stud pops open very easily and I'm tempted to add a velcro patch to make it more secure. Looking forward to visiting you again when we are allowed to leave 'Fortress Australia'. Great review, keep up the good work!
I am trying to figure out why you (and the customers) don't like the Stadler Quest pants so much. Yes, they are a little more baggy, but that's because there is no termo-layer in there. I also checked your website, but all that says is "There is a matching Treasure Pro pant, but we don’t really like it.". Why do you not like it? What's the reason behind this? For someone looking to spend a fair amount of money, this is some important information.
Great content, I'm definitely coming to visit the shop this summer as I've nowhere near me in Switzerland with such quantity of stock or quality of service.
Hi The Chap 😉 I’m now thinking about getting this instead of Rukka, which I took for my missus from you Guys recently. But…I can’t see it in stock! Surprisingly, the previous model, Supervent3 is still in stock. What’s going on? Thanks for another nerdy great review. I love them! Cheers and have a wonderful Xmas! ❄️☃️🏍️🎅🏻
Another well put together review Chris and crew. What would you recommend for someone who is mostly a fair weather weeded rider who wants to be as protected as much as possible both from the road and the typical bad weather but don't want to look like a motorcycle rider off the bike. Looks more like you are out walking the dog than jumping of a cruiser
@@philipjames250 Hi! I really like it! The vents that billow out don't seem to let in as much air as they seemingly should. I rode 3 hours in 88 F (31c) and it was warm when the sun was out. I wouldn't wear it past the 90s. I like the pants as well they do vent well near the shins. I think motolegends gripe is that the hip armor is pretty weak. That's unfortunate at this price but overall I am happy. I hope to post a write up on Reddit when I get the time.
Great review. Your statement that an Adventure Jackets needs to have a removable membrane makes a lot of sense to me. Can you please make a review about the Stadler Superior Active, which has got a removable membrane? And benchmark it to the Treasure Pro?
Chris, on your point that an adventure jacket needs a removable membrane: My approach is to wear a protector vest and a shirt below the jacket and just take off the jacket when you need all cooling.
there are on Treasure Pro buttons as Supervent III to adjust the Hem? and the rate on their official website is AA, you make a mistake or there is a fault in their website?
From the link in the video description, it only lists the Stadler Supervent 3 jacket, which seems to be discontinued. Is the Treasure Pro still available for purchase?
@@stocks7765 Initially, we thought it was better than the Supervent, and it did have some neat features, but it didn’t seem to fit people very well, and the shoulders were a bit too ‘Dynasty’ for our liking. We also realised that we missed the more protective qualities of the Supervent. Nothing strange here. You make a video, and express a view. A year or so down the road, things change. We liked the suit when it first came out. Then we fell out of love with it. We sent all our stock back to Stadler, and swapped the jackets for Supervents. In a years’ time, we may have different views. That’s life, I suppose! CP
@@Motolegends Fair enough!Thx for making it clear.I'm looking for a new jacket after my Nivala has a hole on the elbow after I went down at 30 Km/h in the mud.I don't trust it anymore.Imagine if I went down at 60/70 on asphalt😳Maybe the sleeve would have been ripped off.My Stadler 4all pro pants had nothing besides some mud witch now seems to be"baked in"in the outher layer, even after washing😖It will be the supervent 3 for me now.Thx again for the first class reviews
Does anyone know how to remove the back armour from this jacket? I was wanting to wash it today but can't for the life of me figure it out! I'll call in the morning but if anyone can help tonight that would be great 🙈
@@Motolegends amazing, thanks for the reply. I did manage it last night afterall. I got your voicemail today querying if I was still stuck, incredible service
I hate to tell you this but, no-one cares about your opinion of what a adventure jacket should or shouldn't be. Most people buying these jackets aren't doing the baja races or dakar rally, they're regular riders who just happen to own an adventure bike. Oh, another thing, Klim is pronounced "climb."
Love this more than the Revzilla videos - your detailed explanations and context comments aren't rushed at all and I like that!
So glad you have posted this, Stadler is a brand most of us don't know about, I bought my Stadler gear 8 years ago and its still 100% waterproof.
The factory will take your gear back after a spill or Rip and fix it or make alterations should you need them!
They also make custom gear and gloves!
Price is as good as the other high end gear but you get a made in Germany Family company! Check it out before you buy something made in Asia. Always check origin when buying goods, it makes the difference !!
Not just the reviews, which are incredibly detailed and a cut above the usual superficial overview. It's the insights on the business and what goes into producing these garments and why things are made the way they are that make this channel special. 👏🏽
Oh, and Mark, of course.
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Hi Chris from Northern Ontario Canada. This review was by far the most detailed review I have ever seen on TH-cam. Well done!
I’ve actually seen a similar sleeve scoop (if not quite as nicely done) on a cheap RS TAICHI textile, and I was super impressed with the idea and baffled why nobody else was doing something like that. Cool to see that Stadler took that sort of concept and refined it further.
Hi Chris, I visited your Guildford Store a couple of years back on a trip from Australia and bought the Stadler supervent jacket and matching pants. I ride very day and agree with pretty much everything you've said about that suit. Personally I don't however find it particularly uncomfortable, maybe because I ride a GSA so I'm not hunched over the bike.
The quilted liner in the jacket works for me in the 'hub' seasons and believe it or not I have a warm and safe jacket and pants that I use in our Winter. My commute home is in the small hours of the morning when it can get down below 5C, factor in some wind chill at expressway speeds and the warm and safe makes for a very comfortable, relaxing ride. The venting in the Supervent is fantastic and I particularly like the double placket however no amount of venting works especially well when our ambient mid afternoon can be above 45C, (I've seen 48!), and I'm in slow moving traffic which is when I typically commute to work. On those days I wear an ice vest under the jacket to keep my core temperature down.
The only area I would improve on the Supervent is the fit of the collar which unless I cinch it particularly tightly to the point of being uncomfortable, allows air to funnel in at the back of my neck. Nice in the summer, not so nice in Winter. In addition, occasionally the velcro closure at the neck is released by the bottom of my helmet rubbing against it as I turn my head to look left/right. I think additional soft padding here would help to compensate for different body shapes and in fact this was the only area where I thought the Rukka Nivala jacket was a better fit for me. I also have the storm collar but to be honest I find it a bit of a faff to close properly, the magnetic stud pops open very easily and I'm tempted to add a velcro patch to make it more secure.
Looking forward to visiting you again when we are allowed to leave 'Fortress Australia'. Great review, keep up the good work!
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this is a hell of a review. rly well made. love your vids. keep up the good work.
More straight talk from Chris!
I am trying to figure out why you (and the customers) don't like the Stadler Quest pants so much. Yes, they are a little more baggy, but that's because there is no termo-layer in there. I also checked your website, but all that says is "There is a matching Treasure Pro pant, but we don’t really like it.". Why do you not like it? What's the reason behind this? For someone looking to spend a fair amount of money, this is some important information.
Great content, I'm definitely coming to visit the shop this summer as I've nowhere near me in Switzerland with such quantity of stock or quality of service.
Hi The Chap 😉 I’m now thinking about getting this instead of Rukka, which I took for my missus from you Guys recently. But…I can’t see it in stock! Surprisingly, the previous model, Supervent3 is still in stock. What’s going on?
Thanks for another nerdy great review. I love them!
Cheers and have a wonderful Xmas! ❄️☃️🏍️🎅🏻
New jacket coming from Stadler in early 2023.
Another well put together review Chris and crew. What would you recommend for someone who is mostly a fair weather weeded rider who wants to be as protected as much as possible both from the road and the typical bad weather but don't want to look like a motorcycle rider off the bike. Looks more like you are out walking the dog than jumping of a cruiser
My custom Treasure Pro top and bottom is being delivered tomorrow!
How is it?
@@philipjames250 Hi! I really like it! The vents that billow out don't seem to let in as much air as they seemingly should. I rode 3 hours in 88 F (31c) and it was warm when the sun was out. I wouldn't wear it past the 90s. I like the pants as well they do vent well near the shins. I think motolegends gripe is that the hip armor is pretty weak. That's unfortunate at this price but overall I am happy. I hope to post a write up on Reddit when I get the time.
@@justincross83 so do you have an update after a few months of use?
How does the new Air Sport Pro compare? What's it's target audience? Is it a racing jacket or useful for adventure riders?
You should have paid Mark another £10 to smile, or £25 to tell a knock knock joke. 😃
Good review as usual 👍🏻
Great review. Your statement that an Adventure Jackets needs to have a removable membrane makes a lot of sense to me. Can you please make a review about the Stadler Superior Active, which has got a removable membrane? And benchmark it to the Treasure Pro?
Nice job! I thought I had read that superfabric was a little stiff and could scratch paint.
Any review with term gusset is good for me
Chris, on your point that an adventure jacket needs a removable membrane:
My approach is to wear a protector vest and a shirt below the jacket and just take off the jacket when you need all cooling.
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Another great review. Any thoughts on expanding your Stadler range? I'm thinking the Tour Evo which interests me.👍
Very good review. Thanks!
I really like the vents on this jacket so you can leave some open in hot weather!
there are on Treasure Pro buttons as Supervent III to adjust the Hem? and the rate on their official website is AA, you make a mistake or there is a fault in their website?
From the link in the video description, it only lists the Stadler Supervent 3 jacket, which seems to be discontinued. Is the Treasure Pro still available for purchase?
We have discontinued the Treasure Pro but still have the Supervent 3 ongoing.
Why do you no longer sell this jacket ?
We prefer the Supervent 3 and there is a new jacket coming in 2023.
@@Motolegendswill the new jacket be a replacement for this or the super vent 3 regards David
@@Motolegends You prefer the Supervent?In the video you say it's a better jacket than the Supervent😳Strange turn I have to say
@@stocks7765 Initially, we thought it was better than the Supervent, and it did have some neat features, but it didn’t seem to fit people very well, and the shoulders were a bit too ‘Dynasty’ for our liking. We also realised that we missed the more protective qualities of the Supervent. Nothing strange here. You make a video, and express a view. A year or so down the road, things change. We liked the suit when it first came out. Then we fell out of love with it. We sent all our stock back to Stadler, and swapped the jackets for Supervents. In a years’ time, we may have different views. That’s life, I suppose! CP
@@Motolegends Fair enough!Thx for making it clear.I'm looking for a new jacket after my Nivala has a hole on the elbow after I went down at 30 Km/h in the mud.I don't trust it anymore.Imagine if I went down at 60/70 on asphalt😳Maybe the sleeve would have been ripped off.My Stadler 4all pro pants had nothing besides some mud witch now seems to be"baked in"in the outher layer, even after washing😖It will be the supervent 3 for me now.Thx again for the first class reviews
Does anyone know how to remove the back armour from this jacket? I was wanting to wash it today but can't for the life of me figure it out! I'll call in the morning but if anyone can help tonight that would be great 🙈
Hi Steven. Just use force to curl it and pull out. ML
@@Motolegends amazing, thanks for the reply. I did manage it last night afterall. I got your voicemail today querying if I was still stuck, incredible service
I hate to tell you this but, no-one cares about your opinion of what a adventure jacket should or shouldn't be. Most people buying these jackets aren't doing the baja races or dakar rally, they're regular riders who just happen to own an adventure bike. Oh, another thing, Klim is pronounced "climb."
Sorry weekend rided