Time Team S19-E07 The Only Earl Is Essex
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- Property magnate Paul Whight has two very expensive hobbies. He collects and drives classic racing cars, which he keeps in the grounds of his second obsession - his beautiful stately home and garden in Essex.
Paul is so keen to know everything he can about the history of his home that he's rashly invited Tony Robinson and Time Team in to do their worst.
The site used to be owned by one of the nation's foremost families, the De Veres, who were better known as the Earls of Oxford.
In the twelfth century they founded a grand priory somewhere on this site, and centuries later they may well have built themselves a fine country house.
What's more, the most famous and dissolute Earl of Oxford - who some believe wrote Shakespeare's plays - might even be buried here.
The Team rip up Paul's pristine lawns and subject his house to merciless scrutiny, gradually conjuring up the ghosts of the De Vere family.
5:14 😂 When I first started to watch Time Team, I didn't know what to make of Phil but he grew on me quickly. He's definitely a favorite!
I wish we still had this kind of programming in America. Even the History Channel has been dumbed down to "Ancient Aliens" and "Pawn Stars". Maybe there's a direct correlation to how we ended up with a cartoonish game show host in the White House.
There is only 400 years
@@Mimzie-Arizonathere is at least 10000 years of human history in north america
lol so true 😊
Ed, the fellow who drives the digger, never gets enough credit. He's an artist with that machine! A virtuoso digger! Yea Ed! Well done old bean!
I so agree. People don't realize the skill required to dig a flat bottom with a machine structured to work in curves. Amazing hand-eye.
Yeah. He really is amazing. He has an astoundingly delicate touch in the controls
I used to work with a heavy machine operator that could open a beer bottle with the bucket on his excavator. I'd be willing to bet that Ed could do the same. It takes an inordinate level of coordination and dexterity to work a machine as smoothly as he does.
@@SkunkApe407 Agreed! Controlling and manipulating heavy machinery like a Back Hoe, takes the same skill as flying a helicopter, only you don't go anywhere! :)
@@StephiSensei26 lol, if your excavator starts moving while you're using it, you did it wrong!🤣
I Love Phil. He and I feel the same way about clothes and many other things, like doing the job right. We don't worry about how well we dress we worry about how well we do our job.
Well said!
Thank you very much for giving me so many hours of entertainment, it is really appreciated.
There's no reply button to Greg Barnes so I'm fairly certain that he won't see this, but Time Team has always written up their finds and continued the research past filming. In fact, there apparently are only five as of yet unpublished sites from all the Time Team excavations - which is an incredible feat unto itself. They've done incredible research and publication off camera from everything which they've done and have actually earned the grudging respect from many archaeologists who would hitherto grumble about their methods.
I'm not sure about the status of this find, but I'm fairly certain it follows in the same footsteps of scholarly aptitude as all their others. :)
Especially since short evaluation digs are a legitimate strategy within archeology.
@@megelizabeth9492 Absolutely!
Wow, a reply on a comment 8 years old. 😃️
Honestly didn't even notice!
@@NathanielHarari o
I miss all the old team.... intelligent, warm, humourous, entertaining, instructive and inspiring
Don't care for Mary Ann, at all. Hope they skipped her coming back in the new series.
Thank you for putting these programs on TH-cam. They showed Time Team on Bravo for a few years, but then discontinued them for more cheap reality stuff. Now I look forward to many wonderful hours with Tony, Mick and the other. I wish Carenza Lewis was still with the program Thanks again.
I am totally agreeing with both Phil and Mick about Phil's shirt! He's going to get dirty and sweaty anyway, and a box of assorted buttons always comes in handy!
Reijer Zaaijer: Thank you for posting so many Time Team episodes!
zebooker I always have mixed feelings about people posting copyrighted material, but it hasn’t been removed so I’m thankful for that! On the strength of recently discovering TT here ( o idea how I didn’t hear about it when it aired), I have been buying the DVDs!
Ditto zebooker
I feel a little churlish about it, but I find myself skipping through Maryann's parts.
I find myself saying “geofizz” in my head more and more often.
Thanks so much for posting
Henry VIII has a lot to answer for. The dissolution of the monasteries not only destroyed so many beautiful buildings but swept away the social support system of the time , not to be replaced as far as I am aware until the Victorians with their harsh and intolerant attitude to misfortune.
THANKS SO MUCH for putting these up.. excellent. I have been watching some episodes of series 1 & 2 & 4 , but this series 19.. good grief what a change, in the first ten minutes, that presenter (don't know why she's there ?) being driven around in a sports car, and then background' rock music'.. did Channel 4 tell them they had to 'sex' it up?.. it JUST did NOT need this style of produced TV so everywhere now. Except that loved the episode..but; no Victor, no Helen, no Carenza.. what happened to them ? I love the experts.
The show was funded by a commercial channel and the ratings were dying, so it was either cancel it or try to revamp it. We got 2 more seasons because of the changes so I'm good with that.
@@wbrewer5352 The show died after the changes. Had 20 million viewers in 2006 at its height and still 1.1 million in season 18. The production was moved to Cardiff for season 19, in a political gesture aimed at building up regional television, Time Team was picked because it seemed a safe pair of hands. Jim describes this miscalculation as a ‘death blow’, which cost the show almost all of its behind the scenes staff. Expertise honed over 15 years was lost at a stroke, to be replaced by crew and production staff who knew neither each other nor archaeology.. " A number of archaeological old hands were sacrificed in favour of more youthful presenters. Disgusted, Mick walked out, explaining later ‘For some reason they didn’t think “oh, we’d better run that past Mick.” He’s the archaeological consultant, he might have an opinion about that’ (see CA 271). The changes proved too much, too fast, and viewing figures crashed to 700,000. "
This episode had some of the camaraderie of the early seasons. It shows that the new time might possibly have gelled if the producers hadn't kept messing with the show. Incidentally, with the teasing about Phil's clothing, I went back and looked -- Mick's stripey jumpers began episode 1 of season 2, though that one was more muted than this one.
If you go back to season one, you'll see that shirt in episode one.
Phil never tosses anything out! That torn shirt, the green sweater and of course, that battered, grubby, greasy hat!
I think that’s a second hat 😀
@@barbmcconnaughey3070 I seem to remember one hat being blown over a cliff, but I don't remember if it was retrieved.
Both the JCB operator's, Ian the Elder and Ian the younger are both are incredibly skilled but Ian the Elder shows his prowess because he reclines while he does a back drag. Ian the Younger leans slightly forward forward to watch the bucket depth.
Very different, not enough digging too much brunette.is it dumbed down somehow or is it me ?
Very interesting episode. The pronunciation of the name as "Rakshaw" kills me. LOL Okay, that's a mild observation but I wish people would stop their nasty criticisms of the persona on a TV show that ended quite some time ago. A wonderful show while it lasted.
36:08 Brillant conversation between Tony and Raksha:
T: 'Can you look very quiet, and very holy?'
R: ''Well, I can quiet a bit, but I'm not sure about the holy.'
T: 'You can't do either, do you?'
What’s with the new stupid people on the show, and the dumb content. The audience for this show isn’t as unintelligent as the network thinks. The changes are an insult to the viewers. Bring Stewart and Helen back.
They are all fully qualified. What does it matter what they look like.
i think its bs phil didnt get to go for a ride in the convertible, with his daisy dukes on. woulda been waay more entertaining than the brunette.
I'd rather see Phil's legs any day....
"...the brunette." You mean the well-educated, well-regarded anthropologist and archaeologist Mary-Ann Ochota? Others could have gone for a ride too...why not 'the old guy with the hideous wavy white hair and gay pride sweater', or 'that guy who used to be on Blackadder?'
@@harbourdogNL SIIIIIMMMMMMPPPPPPP!!!!!
@@MelissaThompson432 why? they're just legs, neither good or bad . . . sheesh!
@@minimaker5600 well, I would answer you, but that would involve figuring out what you're talking about. If it's a choice between Phil's legs and The Ochota's legs, IMO it's no contest, however, and that's probably what I meant.
Thanks for posting!
Oh, dear. :0
I’ve recently discovered TT on TH-cam and have been bingeing for several days. The Blu-ray player app keeps wanting to send me to other episodes out of order (I’m on series 6). It sent me here. I knew something was wrong right from the get go with Tony’s opening…then zooming in on that woman so close that I have to look up her nostril and examine her dental work.
I can see the tone is going to be changing. I guess I might not be buying *those* DVDs. *weep*
Linda Susan 2686 me too! Hooked! I have so enjoyed watching
probably from all the dirt he has dug in. grandma always told me dirt was good for me as a little boy. some of us will never grow up phill is one. i loved his logic behind his ripped shirt. why throwaway a clean shirt. hah. cheers from the desert near pehonix. az, us.
He has always been my favorite. Works hard and always down for a drink at the end of the day.
is Mary Ann supposed to replace Helen Geake ??? if so its not working...
NO ONE replaces Helen Geake! She was brought in to compliment Tony's hosting duties, asking questions of peripheral experts, allowing him more time to harass the archaeologists.
Wow, that’s too bad.
I fast forward through the annoying parts.
She's was put in for eye candy. She brings nothing to the table. A shame they went down this road.
It's a done deal now, and I'm sure she's a very nice person, but I never want to see her or hear her voice again.... I'm going to watch the rest of TT, but I'm going to be annoyed by the Ochota....
If you want to make rude or personal comments, don't bother, it says more about you than them. You moaned about micks jumpers, Philips clothing, Tony's beard, every single one of the archeologists gets shit from the comments. Don't watch if you don't like it. The new team are getting really nasty, sexist crap now. Why the f do you bother?
It is amazing the improvement in the technology of geophys over the years.
Phil is a miracle on legs! I watched an episode from series 1 before this one, which took place somewhere in the dark ages, and everybody has gone wrinkly and grey (some even became invisible, such as Carenza) ... apart from ... yep: Phil!
As a female who's getting ever older (I've started counting backwards now) I really want to know Phil's secret. Has he found the Fountain of Youth during one of his digs? Or possibly some ancient Roman wrinkle cream?
Well -lubricated with good honest British Beer!
Country air I should imagine.
...passion keeps you young! In anything you do
I am not so sure who is funnier Paul or Phil? Those 2 are so knowledgeable about their subjects and so interesting to listen to. Their dry wit makes the show even better.
Both.
First the geo-fizz (Archaeologist's soft drink), then the diggers, then it's trowels in the ground & butts in the air!
Adding Marianne ruined te show. Totally.
We knock the *UK* but a charismatic successful English guy turns up in a vintage British car with a beautiful English girl to a beautiful English house to have land dug up by British made *JCB* diggers & the team driven around in British made *Land Rovers!*
Car keys replaced by a flamingo straw! What is the world coming to!
Hiya Chris!
You've got a point. I'm going to be an archeologist with pink hotpants, ripped shirts and bizarre hair ... With a bit of luck I'll live forever!
Love from Amsterdam, Netherlands, Europe.
Heres to my 28th Grandfather Aubry de Vere and his interesting priory, family lands and fam history. Thanx Time Team
How do you feel about having your ancestors being dug up like they were the bones of a four legged animal?
Congratulations, you’re descended from invaders who stole the land and enslaved the people who lived on it. I’m grateful that no such blood runs in my veins.
Alex and Mary Ann are two annoying and useless add-ons to the show. And,Mick's claim that the empty trench was an anchorite cell is really clutching for straws.
+ed lechleiter He did not say for sure that that's what it was. He was merely speculating. Mick above all others was one who was cautious in his conclusions.
It really is all you can do after a mere three days of digging. Conjecture.
I knew Alex from the Victorian Farm and the Wartime Farm etc. before, so I quite like him.
Alex was the smart guy in the "Victorian Farm" series - the one who didn't check the fence & hedges for holes before herding the sheep into the field.
So Alex is like Guy Smiley from the Muppet Show?
I don't like this Mary Ann all teeth. Where is Helen and Casandra: brains as well as beauty. Also Henry and Matt.
She is fully qualified. What she looks like is neither here nor there. You seem to be very sexist.
God I love Tracy's Firehair!!!
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I would love to go to Britain buy some large plot of land and resurect a roman villa.
CreatingwithWingless Angel My Dream!!
why don't go in italy? you can make more accurate work, also in italy you can find some place where buy the same tipe of pottery and have acces at the true roman matirial, at Carrara we have the original roman marble, and also you can have more turist for see your Villa and also you can see big roman archeology, you now he city of Pompei right? at pompei is a continue big discovery and will continue to dig for the next 50 years at Pompei.. but we have other big site or big museum to see, in europe out of italy you can find the10% of the roman findings in italy is the 90%.. and you have a more good climate temperature allow you to bild a more accurate recostruction..
and talkin on a price in souther italy is all very cheap.. for have a cheap land in britain you need probably go in a far country side or at north.. we have nice territory, nice sea, very good food, and more close blood to the roman.. and is not rare have near by your location some big roman stuff.. i live at you one littel list of place to si whit google or see some photo..
this is a littel list only for give you an exemple..
Ercolano
Pompei
Villa Adriana
L'Arena di Verona
Il Capitolium di Brescia
Porta Palatina
L'Anfiteatro di Aosta
Via Appia
this is the wiki of all Villa in italy listed by the territory:it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Ville_romane_d%27Italia_per_regione
in some you can have the perfect ricostration.. or if you go to see the 2 big villa in Pompei, (campania territory) you can walk inside and see the wall standing up, pillar, ecc..
inside the Villa of Mistery in pompei: www.google.com/maps/@40.7535729,14.477371,3a,75y,79.47h,70.74t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipN19IZ0x45JKmPoJJkCeixIF3RCdAaL4Vjf9xII!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipN19IZ0x45JKmPoJJkCeixIF3RCdAaL4Vjf9xII%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-2.9530578-ya211.13004-ro-1.0188377-fo100!7i5376!8i2688
Imperial Villa in Pompei:www.google.com/search?q=Villa+Imperiale+(Pompei)&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjorIHx27_lAhVNzqQKHcRDBH0Q_AUIESgB&biw=1148&bih=614
if you are in america US you can find a complete recostrucion in Malibù called "Villa Getty" is based on the Villa of Papyri in Ercolano, i now of a show but end up today 28 ottober.. but is on from april, i think they open it up again next year but you can check maybe they make some event in winter..
i hope in the future we start to rebild our archeological find, becouse at the moment we just dig up and take care but not recostruct.. is a particular way of archeology,
is a tipe of metod very talked.. you now of the "ship of Teseo"? is the same tipe of dilemma..
teseo dilemma from italian wiki, translate whit google..:
"It is said that the wooden ship on which the mythical Greek hero Teseo traveled was preserved intact over the years, replacing the parts that gradually deteriorated. Then came a time when all the parts originally used to build it had been replaced, although the ship itself retained exactly its original form. Thinking about this situation (the ship was completely replaced, but at the same time the ship remained Teseo's ship), the question that can be asked is: is Teseo's ship preserved or not? That is: is the entity (the ship), modified in substance but without variations in form, still the same entity? Or is it just like her?
This question can easily be applied to countless other cases; for example to the scrupulous preservation of some ancient Japanese temples (also mainly made of wood, like the ship of Theseus), for which one can ask whether they are still original temples. One can also turn the paradox about the identity of our own person, which changes widely over the years, both in the substance that makes it up and in its form, but despite this it seems to remain that same person."
big hug
@@philipwilliams5808 you are welcome, no competition, I was just expressing a thought regarding the desire to rebuild a Roman villa and I wanted to suggest my idea .. I do not underestimate the other sites also because for example in Italy we have practically no Roman military fort ( there are only 2 and as you can imagine they are very ancient) the best military fort are all out of Italy .. and obviously in every part where the Romans were, things were always a little different, a little bit for the weather conditions a little bit for the different cultures with which they interacted and with the materials and products they had on the spot .. a big hug! allow me to correct your final sentence: Thank you very much for your information : Grazie mille per le sue informazioni.. ;) ciao!
Aww thé young geophys Guy..' 12km, we've never done that on Time team '...hé wasn't born when they did 67km thén!
An amazing show ruined when the archaeologists started taking second place to the 'Presenters'! Mary-Ann is just a pointless irritation and a waste of time that could have been better spent on the real focus of the programme the Archaeologists!!!!!.
Harry Jennings
Agree. She and the 'new regime' were the death knell of a fantastic formula. What viewers wanted was to see PROPER archeological digs done by KOSHER archeologists; not in yer face cleavage and a load of patronising twaddle while she flirted with the rich guy. Shame. Mick and Phil with the basic team taught me so much about the history of my birth land. They were quirky, amusing, hugely interesting and apart from Baldrick being a complete tit sometimes, very entertaining. Didn't need the teeth or the tits.
@@sliewood And yet Tony introduced Mick to Tim Taylor, so, pretty much made TT possible....
I think more telling is that they replaced Stewart with someone like Alex for no good reason. Alex brings nothing to the show, but they lost so much when they lost Stewart. I think it shows just how much they misread what viewers wanted from the show, even if viewership was going down. They should have gone back to basics instead of trying to jazz it up, and focus more on the local archaeology that people wrote in about.
@guttersnipe I guess a Masters degree in archeology AND anthropology is not proper and kosher?
@@scarletfluerr not at all if her presence in TT was merely to ask stupid questions. Clearly she was recruited for her look and not her brain, which was a wrong decision made by the network, because not only her look didn't fit the show, she was also an awful presenter. Someone with degrees in archaeology and anthropology, playing a dumb role in a documentary program where he/she supposedly being him/herself with his/her real expertise, not just contradictory but also can be great insults to other scholars in real life. If only she genuinely has a bit of intelligence she would have rejected the offer to play the role.
One of the Earls of Oxford was the mai driver behind the Enclosures of the Commons, those lands to which ordinary people had always gone to collect copied wood to burn, hunt a rabbit or two for the pot and so on. It was a ruthless landgrab by the wealthy, and deprived thousands of their rights and their livelihoods. If I were a member of this family, I would be deeply ashamed of my ancestors.
"main driver". "coppiced" wood. Predictive text plus my sloppiness. Sorry.
I looked up the Earls of Oxford, there were 20 of them and both the first and 20th's given name was Aubrey
Didnt I hear the Earl of Oxford did all of Sir Francis Bacon's scientific work! (Ha-ha. My little joke. This is just as stupid and irrationaly as claiming Bacon, a rational scientist and philosopher, wrote any of the imaginative and poetic and lyrical works of the great W.S.).
Only 2 mins in and have been reminded already how this series got so disappointingly ruined. Mary-Ann!! What on earth were they thinking by bringing her into TT? The whole point of the show was that it encompassed an array of eccentric characters who were all so passionate about their different fields of expertise but yet gelled in a way that made viewing not only interesting and educational but fun to watch as well - no wonder the much-missed mighty Prof Aston shook his head in disgust and walked away from the show. And one last thought too, she really, really likes the multi-millionaire guy doesn't she? Can't imagine why ;)
Conor Leeson. Your post almost suggests that you are totally ignorant of the fact that Mary Ann Ochota has a degree in anthopology and archaeology from Cambridge. She has also presented a number of science based productions. You also appear to be equally ignorant of the fact that Alex Langston has degrees in medieval archaeology and world archaeology from UCL. He is also an historian and has worked on several long term living history projects.
@@klackon1 You're definitely missing the part about the original cast gelling as a cohesive ensemble and making the show enjoyable. Watching the veteran cast trying hard to be inclusive and not succeeding is painful. Alex and Ochota don't get it and don't blend.
No matter how qualified either Alex or Mary Ann are, they could only say the lines they were given, which are disappointingly dumb. They're basically both there to look pretty.
@@tripleransom4349... Tosh and rubbish from a sexist git.
@@MelissaThompson432 ‘cast’ suggests they’re actors, which, except for Tony, they are not. They’re real people with impressive bona fides... even the ones we don’t like.
Just like Phil I barely throw out clothing. When I do it always gets a last wear then in the trash it goes. Buck
Why is Mick up in the air doing Alex's job while the landscape archaeologist wanders around chatting and carving stone?
Probably because Mick had more knowledge and experience in landscape archaeology. And maybe because it was a perk of being the boss!
100%with Phil and Mick on thé shirt☺️😂
I love time team!!!!!
Ok, what happened to Episodes 5 and 6?
I know this is posted three years too late but Fillask has these posted along with the rest and all the Time Team specials, lives, extras, etc
th-cam.com/video/cStAVZ5ustU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/2Q0AP52z0gA/w-d-xo.html
1:54 Seeing a future hubby, lol
Or a trophy wife. She is beautiful, educated, personable and gracious.
@@scarletfluerr and she's yet to make one authentic statement or bring in one idea of her own.. this is the seventh episode I've seen with her in it, and so far she's been nothing but superfluous and annoying. this show needs an ochota like a fish needs a bicycle!
Priory at 51.927855, 0.710573 with lines on the ground
Well, shirts. For most ppl they grow older and bigger but I have clothes from the 80s that I can still wear. Then came time to leave the office stting yet have all these suitable clothes not past their prime. What I found was that on my dress shirts they were billowy enuf that if i sewed up the front to the first or second button i cud use them as night shirts, just n case i have 2 exit the house wearing what i wore in bed. Then friends who had grown in age and size and cud not do the same with their dress shirts gave them to me so I haven even more billowy nightshirt. A torn shirt? That fabric looks like a well worn blend of cotton and polyester. I stick 2 the 100 % cotton. He shud make that shirt n2 house rags rather than landfill dregs.
Mary Ann is a complete joke :(( Why on earth was she in the series...
For entertainment purposes?
Eye Candy.
Love the old timer napping in the excavator!
The researchers must have known from the beginning that Edward was not buried there. It would have been a much better episode without all the De Vere/Shakespeare stuff. Makes me wonder if they were hoping to sell the newly Americanized series on to the US market.
Actually, there are no known paintings of the Bard. Any pictures you see are later guesses. At least, that's what I remember from my literature classes.
Gerald Costlow They're not exactly later guesses- though they're not exactly paintings either. The engraving that was done for the first folio was likely done from a painting and Ben Jonson, who personally knew Shakespeare, said that it was a good likeness, so we can assume it's reflects pretty much what he looked like. The monument in the church at Stratford upon Avon was also done after death and the original paint which gave detail was removed at one time and then replaced, can also be assumed to be a pretty good likeness as his family would have commissioned that. Most likely, at least one of the portraits floating around that claim to be him, are indeed him.
Time Team fact: An ancestor of Phil Harding was the original real life Baldrick.
22:16 boyo won't take his hat off indoors however disrespectful it might be 😅
Born in Warwickshire , and ending uo in Liecestershire before I came to France , I am sure I remember the De Veres being in Leics or juat north in Derbyshire also . Am I wrong ?
They missed a money getting idea with the shirt. They should have an auction.
Maybe. They could have made some serious money off a vintage pair of Phil's daisy duke shorts.
What a cunning plan...
lol 47th reference to this Ive seen on TH-cam
5:34 I guess Mick wasn't joking on that issue lol
6:30 wasn’t expecting to see Hermione show up in time team.
The bushy Hair; got it. No comparison beyond that though.
As much as I enjoy Time Team I would never have invited them onto my lawn. I'm glad plenty of other people did.
Why not?
SO much more fun than more recent archaeology shows, like the dull coastline one. Great personalities here and real excitement
Love. Phil
Of course the pretty lady is the one who gets to go for a spin in a classic sports car
that's what she's there for... eye candy.
Yes but who got to ride in the helicopter?
The only one broadcast.
Julian of Norwich was an anchoress. This film is amazing. Cheers!
Though there's a record that Edward de Vere was buried at St. Augustine's in Hackney, by his wife Elizabeth Trentham De Vere, one of De Vere's relatives, Percival Golding, wrote that he was buried--reburied?--at Westminster.
I hated alex. Can't stand him.
Where is Stewart?
@@philipwilliams5808 Does Alex? :O
He's not always in every episode, he was in the last episode but not the one before. And and Phil has moobs not breasts.
They could’ve found where de Vere was buried with a little research from the beginning. Same with where Shakespeare was buried in Stratford
What happens to the artifacts in these digs?
Phil is one hell of a crazy character he's my favorite
"one of the nation's foremost families, the De Veres, who were better known as the Earls of Oxford" - not to their friends and peers, I strongly suspect.
I keep hoping they're going to talk about one of the deVeres named Richard....
There's enough conservative romantic in me to be saddened how a noble family like the De Veres can pass into irrelevance sufficient that their burial sites are obliterated. Now their very bones are exposed and moved about in trays of "archeology." The Christian beliefs they held in life are disregarded by such treatment. The rich homeowner might have been content to place a group memorial to all the unknown De Veres buried beneath his lawn, and left the lot in peace.
I'm Christian and mostly of Brit heritage. To think Christians are being dug up like they were nothing more than apes; that's not archaeology but pure cold desecration. From 10 yrs. of age until when I was on my way to be an archaeologist (specializing in the medieval age) in college, I completely changed my major after learning that Christians were being dug up. To Think: These long dead awaiting the 2nd coming, or spirits coming back with the Lord to be united with their reconstituted bodies. Disturbing Christian graves sickens me.
In Season 18 Ep. 06, they dig in a church cemetery in which church cemetery custodians in centuries past had dug up Christian graves and reburied them in what Helen called a "charnel pit." The church quite obviously thought it was okay.... Many Christian churches of many denominations worldwide have customs of moving remains, whether disinterred or never interred to begin with....
TT specifically, and archaeologists in general, are remarkably respectful of human remains; see the episode referenced above. I have seen remains tested in order that they might be returned to an appropriate place and reinterred or otherwise put to rest in a fitting manner. I haven't seen disrespect, except in the comments section.
@Jeffrey Craven Don't be foolish, bones will deteriorate into nothing in the ground if given a long enough period of time. You surely don't think the bones of Abraham, Moses, Jacob and all the other people of the Bible have not turned to dust by now.
Why does Alex NEVER Takes his hat off, when going into a church etc
He has in other episodes, sometimes completely. Wonder if he or the producers might've toyed with the idea that he needed a signature hat like Phil.
Why should he , to placate to stupid religious peeps ?
Good series... However, I know they have to do what they can to sell the show, but cocktails and toasts? Pretty girls in sports cars? Phil definitely needs some Ritalin ...and we'd all die of alcohol poisoning if we made a drinking game around the word "Geo-phys."
Phil is perfect.
Not often I'm mad at Time Team, but this whole presentation of the half-assed (and basically just classist nonsense) notion that Shakespeare wasn't just Shakespeare is bullshit. The entire idea is easily debunked half-assery, and I'm surprised they even brought it up. Maybe they just wanted to assuage the views of the land-owner, but it's very very obviously balls if you do any research.
I 100% do not understand how all the academics weren't constantly just saying "no" to the Shakespeare stuff. Even those pictures of the two were completely different.
And did they find any connection with Robert deVere?
07:18 'hardly one foot underground'.
Oof, the British must have very large feet... ;-)
So much of the interpretation by TT is highly speculative. That identification of a small area as the anchoress’s cell has no firm evidence.
I am not Neil , Great show very educational well done . I believe there maybe more to this story because I saw online this family's genealogy indicating the Montgomery family marriage to a daughter in this family which may indicate where the family fortunes went ? If there is a genealogy of this Montgomery line further then I would be interested in seeing it ! Haven't found one yet though ?
In comparing pics of the Earl and Shakespeare, it's too bad they didn't have a view of their ears . . . much better than trying to match noses.
I love this combination of the two long-haired archaeologists and their sidekick. It's very entertaining and informative.Who are the three youngsters? The two women and the dark-haired guy with the cap our newcomers
Alex is the vinger in the cake recipe
you should make available clutch pins 1 inch by 1 inch of the Time Team Shield. I see you have the shield on your Blue Hats. Just a suggestion.
Why does the new boy on the team always have to show disrespect by keeping his hat on, even when inside a church? Poor upbringing? We were not brought up religiously but always respectfully toward elders and in the presence of the deceased, which I still maintain.
Neither did he discern the difference between what he saw in the etching and the front of the house and had to be told. Both he and the new female should never have been on this programme, regardless of their "qualifications." His use of the English language could also be improved.
+Wotdermatter Welcome to the modern world. No respect for other peoples' sensitivities , but "you had better respect mine, no matter how transient they may be"."I'm special, at least that is how every body acted as if I was".Spoiled rotten brats as my Mother used to say. Makes you wonder what the future holds for us all.
He was probably told by the producers to "wear something distinctive" as he is new to the series. Like Mick with his coloured jersey. Just they forgot to tell him to show respect to a place of worship and remove it in a church.
You discerned all that from some bloke in a TV programme being told to wear a cap? Wow!
As it is not a church, but a chapel, and lost in a farmyard, I am not even sure it is still consecrated, other than the 30s owners of the Priory shoving the tombs in there. Doesn't look like a place where regular worship goes on does it? You would have to push past the effigies for a start. Interesting place, if you care to stop worrying about a bloke in a cap and his diction.
Alex came into his own on the "Historical Farm" series. Maybe the problem is he is not a Snob! He connects to what went before on a empathic level, wanting to experience it, not unlike Phil. He did not to be told what was in the picture, it was apparently the first time he had seen it, so you would need time to connect a 1770 drawing with what is left. I would rather have a world with Alex's than dead as those tombs people who worry about caps!
I need to know where Mick shops for sweaters.
He did not shop for them. They were made for him by his fans.
According to findagrave.com, Edward De Vere is buried here: www.findagrave.com/memorial/35858905/edward-de_vere
Watched for 15 minutes, realised there is not one genuine archaeologist involved, lost all respect for Baldric, goodbye.
Devere, Bacon, why can't Shakespere just get the credit he dserves?
Did the effete 17th Earl die of plague? Or a bad case of ‘ackney?
Did the Foxes glacier mint bear do the modelling, I just wanted to lick it.
DA,VERE is that the diamond DA VERES ???????
I like to think that the double tomb they showed that was at the church belonged to one of the double burials they found.
Too much prattling , not enough digging .
28:54 'Eight miles of trolley pushing'.
Brilliant!