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- William Wallace leads his fellow Scotsman in rebellion against the tyrannical King Edward I of England.
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Philip: “I am well skilled in the arts of war. And military tactics sir.”
Longshanks: “Very well then, I’m going to put you in command of our experimental airborne division.”
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Oh my...airborne...pmsl...yup...no parachute...no soft landing...pmsl...x
Yeah, get that 🍉🍑🍏out of here
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991) was trying to cash in on the success of Braveheart (1995). The 90’s kid in me just lost all faith in humanity. 😂
As a boy, I used to watch the final scene over and over, during my lunch break from school. It helped me get through some tough times with my step father, who used to be abusive and bill towards me. He's not like that anymore.
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Aww honey I'm sorry you had to deal with that as a kid, hope things have improved for you.
Winner of 5 Oscars including Best Picture.
and Best Director as well for Gibson.
Speaking of Robin Hood, Wallace's wife was named Marion, but it was changed to Murron to avoid confusion with Maid Marian.
Scotland was independent from this point until the parliamentary Act of Union in 1707. The two kingdoms came under the same Crown earlier, in 1603 -- under the Scottish Stuart family -- with King James.
The major battle scenes were filmed in Ireland, because there are wide open, flat plains in the center of the country that were ideal for big battles. To add some realism to the aggression, the extras in the battle scenes were recruited from the Irish army with regular army soldiers on one side, and army reservists on the other side. The real life rivalry between them resulted in some genuine fighting and some real injuries on set. Also it was ironic that Wallace's best friend Hamish was played by Brendan Gleeson, an Irish actor while the 'mad Irishman' character of Steven was played by a Scottish actor.
The other reason was it was cheaper to film it in Ireland, it was a tax thing if I remember correctly.
The "past-nick" note and monty python reference was great and won me over on its own. Thank you for that.
YES! I was hoping others would catch the sacked being sacked by those who were sacked bit! Huge Monty Python fan and I spit out my drink when you guys did that! 😅😅😅
This is my all time favorite film. It was the first to really do the epic as we see them today, inspiring everything from Gladiator to Game of Thrones. Historical realism aside, it's just a fantastic story with a great script and phenomenal direction. All set to a gorgeous landscape
The sound editing. Now everything sounds good but at that time I remember the flagging of metal during the battles the horse sounds everything wa shocking to me. That’s when first realized that sound effects editing was a thing. I believe it won that Oscar as well.
Watching this from "my Ireland" now. Was looking forward to this.
There's a struggle going on for your Ireland today. Are you subscribed to Niall McConnell yet?
My heart is breaking for what's happening to the land of my mother.
"the prince is a milquetoast, foppish dandy"
and the award for Reactors with best vocabulary goes to.....
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"Milquetoast" is one of my favorite words
@@CoryGasaway I'll eventually be able to explain my hatred for that word. Part of it is how it sounds like something eaten at breakfast. Maybe once I've eaten some, I might like it. :D
That’s MELBA TOAST@@BattleAngelFan99
There's nothing worn under a scotsman's kilt.
It's all in perfect working order.
Hug Your Mom for enduring this with You ... Hard Stuff ...
And nice Monthy Python reference 🤔👍👍👍👊
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I love that you left in the "long spear" joke. haha no one seems to leave that in or laugh at it. haha I laughed so hard the first time hahah
throwing that wallace's sword in the end was like " he is with us , and he is the first to face you today " beautiful scene , beautiful movie , thanks a lot !
I saw William Wallace longsword in Edinburgh Castle! It's as big as Aragorn's Anduril, maybe even a little bigger.
I"m an History nerd and this movie is quite inaccurate, however Hollywood magic worked and I really enjoyed this epic, great piece of cinematography! I re-watched it many times.
Love your reactions and your many hints to LOTR, Star Wars...
You didn’t see his longsword
I love your reactions. It’s one of the few wholesome moments I get all week. For someone who had a rough relationship with my mom it’s incredible to see you both interact! Keep it up!
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This is my favourite movie of all time, maybe because I'm Scottish lol. Brilliant movie, Directed by and starring Mel Gibson, based very loosely on the life of William Wallace, Guardian and High Protector of Scotland.
I think you would enjoy "Dragonheart" (1996). It is also set in medieval times, where a disgraced, wandering knight (Dennis Quaid) stumbles into the last dragon (Sean Connery). Luckily it's during that sweet spot of early CGI.
I grew up loving Dragonheart!! Still one of my favourite movies.
Back then, I loved Dragonheart. Imho, unfortunately it didn‘t age well as I successively became more selective about how much of suspension of disbelief I‘m willing to grant and how much of cheesy clichés I can endure without cringing.
A lot of things were changed around to make a better story, but the end result, while not historically accurate, is truly epic. A wonderful movie.
Some people complain about it not being accurate. My feeling is that if I want historical accuracy, I'll watch a documentary. If I want an epic tale, I'll watch Braveheart.
Another movie you might consider if you haven't seen it is The Patriot. It has very similar themes (and also stars Mel Gibson), but is set during the American Revolution. Heath Ledger is also in it, and one of the villains is played in gloriously despicable fashion by Jason Isaacs (Lucius Malfoy in the Harry Potter films).
Yes this isn't exactly accurate but a great film.. I love how the brutal effects were done.. it was so practically done with lots of foam weapons full of blood just hit against people lol. I learned my ancestors are from Scotland and married into the Bruce family.. so cool!
It's one of my favourites ❤ Although it may not be historically accurate it certainly portrays and illustrates accurately, the atrocities suffered by the Scots at the hands of the English..
The last movie to actually employ an army of extras for the battles (the Irish army) after this it was cgi
It looks incredible too.
Good to know that the sackers were also sacked!! 😂😂
Enjoyed the reactions!
16:30 I love the fact that when they let Campbell go, he just *_has_* to punch someone.
After that, everything's fine, but he has like a clinical need to punch. 😀
Wallace's claymore (sword) is 6 foot long and is on display at Stirling Castle.
The sword is not in the castle it in the Wallace monument at Causewayhead stirling. I used to live near there , it's quite a walk up the hill to reach it ,but last time I was there a mini bus took people up , the sword is in a big glass case and is a sight to behold ,
The guy who plays Stephen The Crazy Irishman is also the same guy that plays Albert Runcorn (who Harry Potter turns himself into, to get into the Ministry of Magic) in HP Deathly Hallows I. He can’t tell lies to Delores Umbridge. I can’t believe that’s the same guy! Played by David O’Hara. Then of course Hamish is Mad Eye Moody.
Love the reference to the DS9 episode, a great quote. "I cannot defeat this Klingon; I can only kill him."
"Cause that'll make it real" I swear your commentary is always on point!
Subscribed just for that insert of the “come out you Black and Tans” rebel song, supremely on point!! I was surprised!
Fun facts about Edward I (Longshanks):
His grandfather was King John, the brother of Richard Lionheart.
Longshank's father, Richard III was a weak King who sat on the throne for an eternity. So by the time Longshanks became King, England was an absolute mess.
Longshanks ruled England for 40 years.
He was 14 years old when he was married to Eleanor of Castile, who was 12 years old. Although the marriage was purely political, it was an extremely happy one. They were extremely devout to each other, and she followed him everywhere he went. Even joining him when he went on Crusade.
They were married for 36 years.
They had roughly 14 children.
But only 1 son and 5 daughters survived to adulthood.
This child mortality was high, even during this time.
Longshanks won a civil war in England while his dad the King sat in prison.
Longshanks went on the 9th Crusade. Which is also called "Lord Edward's Crusade" after him. It was a tiny Crusade. In Tunis, the French abandoned ship, leaving Longshanks and his tiny force to go to the Holy Land on their own. Running around, fighting a little bit, but staying within the walls most of the time.
Here, in the middle east, Longshanks was almost killed by an assassin in his bedchambers.
Longshanks killed the assassin, but was stabbed by a poisoned knife in the struggle.
His wife then sucked the poison out of his wound.
He was 187 cm tall. Making him really tall for the time. Which was the reason for his nickname, Longshanks.
He spoke with a lisp, but used it eloquently when speaking.
He defeated two Welsh rebellions. And he was then the one to start the Welsh integration into England.
He did extensive financial reforms, dealing with efficiency and reducing corruption. And he gave rights to tenants.
The England Parliament was created during his Rule.
As soon as he became King, he continued the harsh antisemitic legislation that was trending. He confined Jewish people into ghettoes. He banned usury, which made a lot of people debt free, but it killed the Jewish banks.
All Jews over the age of 7 had to wear a yellow badge, marking them as Jews. And there were specific taxes set to Jews.
Then, 15 years later, Longshanks expelled the entire Jewish population from England. Which kicked out roughly 2000-3000 Jews.
And the Jews remained banned from England until 1656, when the Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell allowed them back in.
After 36 years of marriage, the love of his life died.
At the same time, he failed in his war against France.
Then, as part of the peace deal, Longshanks married the sister of the French King, Margaret.
Longshanks was 40 years older than her.
But, surprisingly, this was a happy marriage too. And she refused to marry again after his death.
Longshanks became really angry in his later years. But his second wife would serve as a beacon of mercy to whoever caught his anger.
Stuff started to happen in Scotland. There were over a dozen contenders to the Scottish throne once the young Norwegian princess died.
And it was during that situation that Longshanks sought to reaffirm the influence that England had held over Scotland since Willian I and William II.
So, Longshanks enters the Scottish stage to prevent a Scottish civil war.
The two biggest contenders to the throne was Robert Bruce the 5th and John Balial.
Longshanks supported Balial, who became John I of Scotland.
Longshanks considered Scotland to be an English vassal, but John said no.
So, when Longshanks entered into war with France. Not only did John refuse to send soldiers, he also negotiated with the French for an alliance.
And so, the first Longshank invasion of Scotland.
Many Scottish lords considered Longshanks to be their rightful ruler. And the invasion went perfect. John surrendered, hoping for mercy.
But Longshanks stripped him of his crown, and sent him to England as a prisoner.
He then took the Scottish inaugural stone used to make new Scottish Kings, and took it with him south. Preventing any new Scottish King to be made, and so by default making himself the de-facto King of Scotland.
But his victory did not last long.
The second he was embroiled in another war with France, the Scottish rebelled.
Now this revolt is familiar to you, as the three leading individuals were:
- Robert Bruce (who would later become Robert I of Scotland).
- Andrew de Moray.
- Sir William Wallace.
Rallying a popular revolt against the English. Winning a significant battle at Stirling Bridge.
And after this battle, William Wallace was appointed by the Scottish nobles to become "Guardian of Scotland".
Making him a sort of regent, as there was no Scottish monarch.
Longshanks could not retaliate.
He was stuck in the war with France. And he was struggling with disorder in England as well.
For the unrest in England, he sat down and wrote a really long letter. Where he apologized for the overbearing rule recently. But, he also argued that it was necessary to win fast.
The English were not happy, but quieted down.
But once the Scottish started raiding south in England, now that unified England.
Longshanks assembled an army of 20 thousand men. Most being Welsh infantry, who were there to prove their loyalty after their two revolts.
And so, we have the second Longshank invasion of Scotland.
The Scottish army only had 6 thousand men, led my Wallace.
The armies clash. Both sides losing 2 thousand each. Which was unsustainable to the Scottish.
But Longshanks could not capitalize on the victory. Meaning he only controlled southern Scotland. As Longshanks was distracted elsewhere.
Then, in 1300 A.D.
Once more, for a third time, heading into Scotland.
By now, William Wallace refused to meet the English in a head-on battle, instead starting a guerilla war.
Then Robert Bruce switched sides and joined with Longshanks.
They made peace with France.
Which left Scotland isolated and without aid.
Then a year later, a bunch of Scottish lords switched sides and joined with Longshanks after he took Stirling Castle.
Then, in 1305 A.D.
William Wallace was captured by a Scottish Knight loyal to Longshanks. Who handed him over to the English.
Wallace was brought to London, and the ending of the movie happens.
Now finally, Scotland was fully conquered by Longshanks.
And he started bringing massive reforms. Sending English sheriffs, judges, administrators. And the whole Scottish legal system would be transformed and streamlined closer to the English.
Then, Robert Bruce goes rogue, and have himself symbolically crowned to be the King of Scotland.
And so, ANOTHER Scottish rebellion.
Longshanks was almost 70 years old by now.
And so, he sent his son, Edward II.
Now Longshanks was angry. He was furious.
He saw this as a rebellion of his own subjects, and not an action done by an independent Kingdom. Which allowed him very different methods.
There would be a lot of executions of Scottish people living in England who had any sort of tie to Bruce.
While some Scottish people were put in cages and put on display.
Longshank was sick. But he went north to inspect some of his soldiers by Newcastle. He contracted dysentery and then died.
His dying wish, was for his heart to be carried to the Holy Land as part of a new Crusade. Which he had always wanted to do.
He became 68 years old.
yall have some scottish in you too? ayy Scotland Gangggg - i knew there was reason i liked yall hahah
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I live in Lanark where these events, which kicked off the uprising, took place. There was a ceremony, some years ago, where Wallace's (symbolic) remains were interred in the grounds of St Kentigerns church in Lanark......His actual remains had no resting place nor Christian burial having been dismembered ,on the orders of the English king, to be displayed throughout Scotland as a warning to us....... to know our place. Points to remember are that ;Scotland was an Independent country much older, as a unified country, than England and , at the time of these events, had been invaded by the English ; Scotland remains a sovereign Country although, presently, due to the 18th century act of Union is part of the political union with the UK ;This Union was not made with the agreement of or, indeed, knowledge of the Scottish people Another point to bear in mind is that: although much of the factual stuff and, sequence of events is historically accurate, the film takes huge flights of fancy and egregious departures from historical fact.
10:12 - something tells me that "stones thrown at a window to get the girl to come out" started as soon as windows were invented.
1:15 Well done.
I will now refer to myself in the fourth person(?), the mistake maker of the past in smart clothing. 😊
Nick, since you seem to enjoy films with epic battle sequences and great cinematography, I highly recommend the films of Akira Kurosawa. His films are beautiful, with fantastic acting. Some of these include Ran (loosely based on King Lear) The Seven Samurai (the American remake of this film is The Magnificent Seven) and Hidden Fortress. Which George Lucas loosely based Star Wars on. If you haven't already experienced these movies, please do. I promise you won't be disappointed. Oh, and watch the subtitles ones rather than the dubbed. Much better hearing the actor's vocal inflections as it makes for a richer viewing experience. Good work, guys! Great reaction!
Other historical epics by Mel Gibson include The Patriot, Passion of the Christ and Apocalypto. The Outlaw King is a more historically accurate retelling of the story established in this
Randall Wallace also directed "We Were Soldiers" w/ Mel Gibson
Thanks for doing this reaction! The moment the King mentioned the first night of marriage thing. I said the exact same thing Nick at first that exact second. Cause I completely forgot.
Great reaction, quite the film..lovelovelove ❤️✌🏻❄️
hi, hope you are both well? im a Scottish female born and bred i love watching this film despite its historical inaccuracy. In Stirling there is the Wallace monument it was built to hold part of his body that was sent to Scotland as a warning it also holds William Wallace’s Claymore sword which you can still see today. I would say this is my fourth fave film after the planet of the apes reboot that you recently watched Rise, Dawn and War. I’m looking forward to Kingdom now after seeing the official trailer for it. Anyway thankyou for watching the movie and i hope you enjoy watching one of Scotlands real life legends of the past. Take care and stay safe 😘🏴
really excellent older spy, thriller and drama films
Spy Game… Robert Redford , Brad Pitt
Sum of all Fears, Morgan Freeman, Ben Affleck
The Peacemaker, George Clooney and Nicole Kidman
Michael Clayton, George Clooney, Tilda Swinton and Tom Wilkerson
THE Interpreter, Sean Penn, Nicole Kidman
The way the English have always and will always say "Irish!" 😂
Btw... the movie is historically quite incorrect so whatever you do, don't judge Robert the Bruce too harshly. In reality he was the one with the honorary title "Braveheart"
15:49 That caught me off guard 😂😂
James Horner score is sooooo good.
Man...I've never heard a more classic comment during the first battle scene...beheadings blood and guts...then I heard... circumcisions...fk me....I was crying laughing...thanks...xxx
Great shirt
There IS a monument for Wallace in scotland
Thank you Scotland for the delicious scotch whisky 🥃
Im english and this is my favorite film
The best lines in this movie come from Stephen
Braveheart spawned Gladiator
Are you all from Newfoundland? Your accent is as Scottish/Irish as it is Canadian. Definitely gives me Newfoundland/Nova Scotia vibes. Your mum's a real trooper for this one. She handled it more than well! "Cut his dick off first, though!" Ha! Props to the both of you! Great reaction to a great movie!
Not from Newfoundland, but definitely Canadian and definitely Scottish/Irish in us!
@@Flix2Us My apologies for the presumption. Many of our ancestors settled in the great North. At least I know my accents, though! Sláinte from Boston!
Hi got 2 movies for you from Ireland main actor Daniel day Lewis won academy award for his role in the 2nd movie but recomend the 1st IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER ,2nd My LEFT FOOT both movies are true storys 1st about Irish injustice 2nd about the cards life has dealt you and over coming it they both will make you cry laff and be angry love from Ireland
subbed for the sacking!
Robert never betrayed William.
It's not even confirmed that they met at all.
They never met ,there was 90 years between them.
Hmmm, another Scottish legend (I think) is Rob Roy with Liam Neeson.
Braveheart is theundiscuted first one :D
29'16 it's tar, not oil dude.
When the prince married the French princess, him and friend phillip locked eyes and Longshanks caught it which made Longshanks turn and glare at the friend. It's suggested that they both were gay. Look up history on the son, King Edward 2nd and its said that he was killed with a red hot poker up the gazoo. Perhaps because of his sexuality.
William Wallace, Robert the Bruce, Edward Longshanks and his son are real historical characters, the story has just been embellished here for dramatic reasons (I understand you've been told it's inaccurate, I'm not here to repeat that). Here's some of the things that really happened in history:
There is zero evidence that prima noctae was a codified law, or even a regular tradition. Sure, there were lords that took advantage of the peasant girls on their lands, but it wasn't an institutional thing across England.
The character of Philip was completely fictional, although he is somewhat based upon two people: Piers Gaveston, and Hugh Despenser the Younger, whom it was suspected, especially by his wife, that he had had an illicit relationship with, but no proof has ever been found, only rumours. English barons captured both of them at different times throughout Edward II's reign and provoked military responses both times, leading to Gaveston being executed by the barons, and later, to the Earl of Lancaster's execution by Edward for his defiance. Edward II was very much a weak king, however, and eventually lost his throne to his own wife.
Isabella, the She-Wolf of France, was 12 when she married Edward II, and never met nor had an illicit love affair with William Wallace. When she was around 30, Isabella couldn't stand Hugh Despenser nor her husband's fascination with him, and so on a diplomatic mission to France, she met with Roger Lord Mortimer (and likely began an affair with him), and the two of them decided to depose her husband the King and get rid of the Despenser family. She led a mercenary army back to England the following year and marched on London, where the King's forces abandoned him, and successfully took the throne as regent for her son, Edward III (and it was rumoured that after imprisoning Edward II, she tried to have him killed). She was quite effective as a ruler, but disliked for her lavish spending and for her quick resolution of long-standing problems such as the war with Scotland, which ended during her reign.
Edward I is fairly well portrayed in this film. Called "Longshanks" due to his above average height of 6'2", he was a ruthless warlord who conquered Wales and built many castles there to reinforce his rule there, and claimed suzerainty over Scotland when the heir to the Scottish throne died. He is also known for his political reforms, establishing Parliament as a permanent institution for taxation and legislative changes. He was an astute politician both at home and abroad, in addition to his battle prowess.
Not much is known of William Wallace's heritage, with some sources saying he was of the lesser nobility, although that may have been due to his knighthood later on. He was a Knight of Scotland who led forces in battle during the Scottish war of Independence, until his defeat at the Battle of Falkirk. Seven years after that was when he was captured and taken to England where he was executed much as he was on screen, but that was in 1305, 3 years before Isabella even came to England, so if she had met him as they say in the film, she would have been like 5 or 6 :P
Also, the Scottish Claymore sword is called a claymore because in old Gaelic, claidheamh mór literally means "big sword" (Gaelic and Celtic have lots of unused letters in their words lol)
Robert the Bruce never betrayed Wallace to his enemies, and he was about 18 at the time of these events. He managed to politically outmaneuver the other claimants to the Scottish throne such as John Comyn, and in 1306 he took power and waged a very successful guerilla war against England, eventually defeating Edward II's forces at the Battle of Bannockburn and officially winning Scotland's freedom (which Edward never acknowledged). I'd highly recommend checking out Outlaw King as it's a much more accurate representation of Robert I of Scotland :P
Hi just thought i’d let you know that the execution of William Wallace was real. He was hung, drawn and quartered and his body parts sent to the four parts of the UK. Scotland built the wallace monument to hold his body part and his sword which is about 5ft tall can you imagine holding a sword that tall. take care 😘🏴
You would also like:
"Rob Roy" (1995 remake) Liam Neeson, Tim Roth, Brian Cox
"Last of the Mohicans" (1992 remake)
"Robin Hood" (1991 version) Uma Thurman
"The Lion In Winter" (1968) Katherine Hepburn, Peter O'Toole, Anthony Hopkins, Timothy Dalton
"Becket" (1964) Richard Burton, Peter O'Toole
"Fall of the Roman Empire" (1964) Sophia Loren, Alec Guiness, Christopher Plummer, Omar Sharif. better than "Gladiator"
"The 300 Spartans" (1962) better than 300
Dude, they absolutely won complete independence from England. And even though there were decades of wars and decades of peace to come, it wasn't for another 5 centuries that England "catch'd" Scotland in the "union" that still binds the two kingdoms, forming the "United Kingdom(s) of Great Britain". The 'S' is always excluded, but the 'S' is constitutional reality. Either kingdom could legitimately terminate said union again. Scotland likely will, and hopefully soon.
This is not a good movie fro ma history standpoint, but as a movie, it is a pretty good epic. The opening dates weren't even correct. The King died in an accident riding a horse during a storm, AT NIGHT in 1286. William was also a lesser noble, and had experience leading in the military, being a middle son, he was a mercenary.
Also, Princess Isabella was 9 years old, not old enough to get married. She would eventually overthrow Edward II with her son, Edward III.
This portrayal of Edward I was pretty on point; Man was a warrior king. They leave out his other nickname; Hammer of the Scots.
Primae Noctae didn't actually happen, here anyways.
Movie makes you believe that Scotland had been occupied for years, the war only lasted 20 years and the English never did well. The Scots also would've been equally equipped, not in crappy leather banded mail and kilts (which didnt exist until 1700s), the colors were represnted with sashes and other accessories.
Robert went on to to be King of Scots. Scotland was independant, Edward I outlived Wallace, and the battles of Stirling (Bridge, that part was left out) and Bannockburn were won with proper tactics.
Outlaw King isn't the best historically either, but it's got some accurate bits too.
I think if you treat this movie as a piece of art rather than history then yes, it's a good movie.
However, as someone who loves history and also English with Scottish ancestry on my mother's side, I can't really get over the butchered historical inaccuracies on characters, inaccurate timelines, and just plain wrong facts.
Battle of Stirling Bridge is portrayed without the actual bridge, and Wallace's use of Scottish claymores is anachronistic. The romance between Wallace and Isabella of France is largely fictionalized. Isabella was just a child so they even got her age wrong, and there is no historical evidence of any romantic involvement between them. Prima nocte is also largely been debunked and is considered a myth by Historians.
Good reaction guys, it's a entertaining film but it does take a lot of liberties with historical facts for the sake of story telling. And sadly, as my mum would argue, almost acted as propaganda towards Nationalist sentiments in Scotland which was not as prevalent before 1990s and my mum remembered the SNP using these historical inaccuracies as "facts" to present to its audience. Sadly its caused a Thatcher's miner strike equivalent rift between her and some of her family which hasnt got mended.
And kilts didn't become a thing until centuries later.
And Robert Bruce's father was already dead.
And Wallace didn't get married until after killing the Sheriff of Lanark.
And...
Awesome! I was just thinking that i was bored but never mind
I can't believe you didn't play the final punch line about how the Scotsmen won their freedom (they were obviously starved and slaughtered on the battlefield. It's clear both of you watched this movie before by all your comments during the movie. Several scenes and key lines were left out of here. Such as the king saying that could have been my head in a basket.
Was this based on history?
Roughly!
Scots were not this primitive in 1280!! They had knights in armour and everything
Another excellent historical epic is Kingdom Of Heaven Director’s cut. The theatrical cut isn’t great though.
Was it majestik møøse?
The kings son is a member of the alphabet mafia.
Only factual thing is the name Wallace. It was written as a poem or sonnet. So 80 percent is not none
"Hard life in the old, old, old days," is a matter of perspective, certainly. Medieval conditions prevail in many places in today's world, largely due to war, corporatism, and neo-colonialism/imperial predation. The Scottish folks in this film had it easy compared to the people in Gaza today, right? And numerically speaking, there are more slaves and refugees in today's world than at any time in recorded history. Don't get tripped up in the myth of "perpetual progress" for the species. That's Steven Pinker thinking, omitting/ignoring all of the data that doesn't fit one's pie-in-the-sky thesis (a combination of elitist privilege and confirmation bias masquerading as scholarship). I'll take Christopher Ryan's approach over Mr. Pinker's any day of the week -- Civilized to Death is a brilliant and timely book.
Life in Gaza today? Israel have offered recognition many times to Palestine so long as Palestine recognises Israel, unfortunately the response is that Israel has no right to exist.
One of the best history-butchering movies ever made.
It’s a movie,
If you want a documentary then go watch a documentary.
I don't mind a history butchering movie if it's really good.@@123darkpassenger
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Okay- accuracy on a historical level... not so much. The Scot's didn't wear Kilts until some 300 years after Willaims' time. Painted faces, not a Scottish thing. Druids painted their faces blue. The romance... Wallaces wife etc... sleeping with the Princess... all Hollywood. But Mel had to feed these things into the film for box-office receipts... much like any other movie in creating the "hook" to appease the audiences for the $$$. Historically, it wasn't such a glamorous time to live in. Bad skin, poor hygiene, bad teeth, poor eyesight, poor general health, no make on the woman, body lice, head lice, etc... Truth Hurts. But a good "slender-historical to heavy- fable" movie it is.
Why would they have bad skin? Because they don't go to bed with 8 layers of cream every night?
Their hygiene was fine. They washed themselves and their undergarments. Yes, they did not wash themselves in disgusting cologne to go to the store. The idea that they had bad hygiene in the Middle Ages, that is in fact the Hollywood invention.
During the period of this film, their teeth were healthier than our teeth. They kept their teeth clean. And sugar was not yet introduced to their diet.
Poor eyesight? Yes, the occasional person would have poor eyesight without access to glasses.
But we know that the majority of problems with eye-sight comes from reading for long hours in bad light, and spending a lot of time in front of a monitor.
The general eye-sight of the 1200s would be better than ours.
Makeup is vanity, and looks horrid. Why people prefer their women to be painted like clowns I do not understand.
Now for general health, you are correct. As an example, Longshanks died of dysentery. Which comes from unclean drinking water. And, Longshanks and his first wife lost an unusual number of their children.
That thing about bad hygiene in the middle ages has been shown to be mostly a common misconception. That actually only became a real problem centuries later, and mostly as a side effect of urbanisation.
Other than that, yes, more or less the only historically accurate things about this movie was the mere existence of Edward II, Robert the Bruce and William Wallace (who was, however, born into nobility already), and that the first battle in this movie, the battle of Stirling, actually did mark the outbreak of the Scottish rebellion and the battle of Banockburn, that was hinted at in the epilogue, was actually lead by Robert the Bruce and decided the war for Scottish independence. Pretty much everything else in this movie is fiction.
Dude. Do your homework. Robin Hood came out four years before this. And it didn’t take place in the 1700s.
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Mel Gibson hating Britain again
A great movie but poor history. Being Scottish born I love the sentiment, action & story but I also wish they had followed the history more accurately as it is only slightly less inspiring.
FYI; The Scots didn't wear kilts until later but as to the question; Is anything worn under a kilt? No it is all in perfect working order 🤣
There is a TH-cam channel called History Buff that does movie evaluations & is excellent at correcting movies like this but is kind enough to justify minor errors.
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This is a prime example of not letting the truth get in the way of a good story. This is only slightly more historically correct than LotR. The woad (blue paint) is about a thousand years too late. The kilts are about 400 years too early. The princess was about 10 when Wallace was executed. And they totally misrepresented the siege of Stirling, which was known as the Battle of Stirling Bridge for a reason...
Still a great movie.
All of this and exactly. It's a fantastic movie, just don't look to its for historical accuracy. Enjoy the writing, the spectacle, the music, everything. And, as you said, don't let its utter inaccuracy get in the way.
They never attempted to make the movie historically accurate , people that complain about it are the worst .
Brilliant fun film, but PLEASE don't think this is anywhere near the reality of the story of William Wallace. Its grossly inaccurate. Gibson has Hollywooded this insanely. So please don't think its a true story.
A few very basic alterations;
Wallace wasn't poor, he was a very well off noble.
He also fought as a mercenary for the English.
The French princess was around 4 at the time Wallace was about.
Murray isn't even mentioned. Equally as important as Wallace in these uprisings.
Wallace and Edward 1 died years and miles apart.
Sooo much else.
Good fun film, but.do remember its not real.
It's sooo unrealistic!! Did u see the blue skies at the end!? Its scotland!! It rains constantly! Lol
I know it's annoying but as a history major I just have to say that this movie is very inaccurate. I really really do enjoy this movie, and I think it's very good, but William Wallace was never a peasant and a lot of what's attributed to Wallace in this movie was done by Robert the Bruce. The name 'Braveheart' was actually Robert the Bruce's nickname due to how he acted in his final battle, The Battle of Bannockburn. It's makes me sad that the movie portrayed him as a spineless backstabber up until the end. (Also love the Monty Python reference, glad that Moose was sacked)
The movie makers never attempted to make it historically accurate ! .
@@EmmaMonroe000 they based it on historical events?
It's a holkywood movie so it's very black and white, ie all the baddies are badder than bad and have no redeeming features, all the main goodies are whiter than white...
Oh please, what a crock of anti-English bollocks. Stupid film, but cracking reaction. All power to you.
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I love this film, but it's more fiction than history.
Lol, dude, ya GOTTA stop relating every single thing back to Lord of the Rings! We get it, ya love the movies. I do too. But calm down. I swear every reaction ya make at least 12 LOtR references.
So what? Stop watching them then. They can say whatever they want. I don't think it bothers anyone but you
The most historicaly inaccurate film ever made. Anti-English Mel Gibson same as patriot. Also no kilts till the 1700s. Robert the bruce is the real hero and on scottish money.
great, but absolutely inaccurate movie, such a historical mess ! scots looks like some mix between dark ages vikings and late roman empire barbarian tribe, but wearing kilts, in early 14 century!?! william wallace is a knight, a noble, so actually he wear a full armour - chainmail ,helmet, iron boots, chained gauntlets and etc. like other english and scotish knights! robert bruce has no big role while wallace is a guardian, actually they meet only few times, and no records they fight togheter against englishmen! braveheart nickname is actually given to robert bruce not to william wallace! and yes, there no love story 🙂
This is an epic movie, but it is a historical disaster. Edward the first was certainly a martial king, but nowhere near like he is depicted here. The Scotts are shown wearing kilts, which weren't a thing yet, and woad, which was a Celtic thing and long past the time it was used. Wallace was no farmer, he was a minor noble. Prima nocta is a myth. Nothing of that sort has ever been enacted. Basically, outside of some names, almost nothing in this movie is accurate.
What's your point? I don't understand why people always feel the need to point this out. Just enjoy the narrative. No one thinks this is a truly accurate depiction. It's just a beautiful drama peppered with some actual real history.