To be fair, Yog-Sothoth remembered you doing *that* before you even did it. Yog-Sothoth also remembers you taking all of the other available options, too.
Not very long, I mean I can well imagine in the future, they'll see racism like we see astrology. "You believe skin pigment effects personality? Oh and star positions? And voodoo dolls? And phrenology?"
@Mac Mcskullface Yeah, I know, that was kind of my point. It's just superficial shallowness... That, in this case, led to unspeakable horrors of human rights breaches for a very long time but it's basis is no different to the other things I mentioned.
If the devs really knew HP Lovecraft, the main character would always be a well put together protagonist with a vague and sometimes unknown connection between their ancestry and whatever Lovecraftian horror theyre caught in. Lovecraft is about breaking the human interpretation of reality and sanity, not about beating an already broken man. Unless you count Dagon, I suppose. That guy was fucked from paragraph 1
I thought the guy from Dagon was supposed to be normal until he was shipwrecked and saw the giant sea monster. But then again, the only reason he got there in the first place was because he decided to escape the relatively benign imprisonment on a german warship in order to row across the entire open sea in only a small lifeboat, so maybe he didn't have the best judgement on things.
@@blondbraid7986 Now that mention that, I do agree with you. Forgive me, Dagon was the first I read of his stories so its a little hazy in the memory. Point is, you being correct only reinforces my original comment, and now I kinda want to make a list of main characters in order of time it took for insanity to set in
@@HavikXIII It's an understandable mistake, I mean, the story basically starts with him writing a suicide note before it flashes back to how he got insane, so you can easily get the impression that he was mad from the start because that's how he was introduced.
Are either of you disappointed by Shadow over Innsmouth? Its like Lovecraft wrote an engaging discovery/escape story, then remembered that he's not allowed to write happy endings and glued on a bit at the end.
Eh, the "vague and sometimes unknown connection between their ancestry and whatever Lovecraftian horror theyre caught in" was mostly just Shadow over Innsmouth. Most of his protagonists, if you can call them that, just stumbled upon a box of journals and newspaper clippings that tell the tale of someone else, or maybe a couple people, one of whom might be a relative or old mentor to the 'protagonist.' Sometimes the protagonist is more involved, but still in a sort of tangential way. The downstairs neighbor of the technically dead guy who was keeping himself mostly functional through a combination of chemicals and air conditioning, for instance. Or the surveyor who got kinda creeped out by the local kook and his story about the blasted heath. I know of a couple who got a little more involved, the guy who didn't see the insanity inducing stuff At the Mountains of Madness but *did* get chased by a shogoth and the trio from Miskatonic University who decided to *fight* the thing wrecking shit in Dunwich. Oddly enough, they won. In short, the ancestral connection to some eldritch horror doesn't come up with the protagonists very much. I get the impression it only came up in Shadow Over Innsmouth because Lovecraft found out his great-grandmother was (gasp!) Welsh.
Worse, it's a premium call with a machine that not only has awful voice recognition, but is all slowed and distorted from too much use... Only $74 a minute!
Pierce's disheveled look every time something weird happened really bugged me too. I'm almost certain that they intended to have him look more and more disheveled based on your sanity meter, but they either scrapped the idea or didn't know how to make it work properly.
Something I just realised they could’ve done with the spindly monster is that early on you pass by the painting. Or find the room with it, and then continue out the other door. Later, you could get attacked by it. Maybe just have it’s shadow appear and you need to hide. You wonder if that is what killed the girl you’re investigating. You find a couple more portraits of something creepy. Then you come back past the first painting at some point to find that it’s empty, the monster having left it to chase you. And then later, you come across the portraits to find that they’re empty to. And then you need to run from a horde of the things before they get you.
I remember an indie game that touched on the Cthulhu Mythos a hell of a lot better than this game. It was called "Consuming Shadow." Now if I could just remember who it was by... (Apparently 'touched on' will get autocorrected to touchdown if you're not careful and hit send before correcting autocorrect. Hence the edit)
He should plug his gmes more, some of them are quite interesting. This video seems like it'd be the perfect piece for an ad for the game. Though, thinking about it I wonder if he's not allowed (without money changing hands) as it could be seen as an Escapist endorsement/affiliate.
Yahtzee played through this game on his other channel, yahtzee19 (For those who don't know, Yahtzee has made some games and Consuming Shadow is one of them)
@@Carlos-ln8fd I really dug that game the investigation aspect was really interesting and the general atmosphere of a chaotic collapsing world was fantastic.
I feel like none of your choices mattering is pretty spot-on for something based in the Cthulu Mythos. In fact, it's kinda a big theme for the stories isn't it?
@@Jamie-kg8ig There aren't a lot of certifiable racists that haven't committed genocide, okay, it comes with the territory. Although from his perspective the territory comes with the genocide.
you know i always come back to these old comments to make fun of myself but you know what this one gets a pass dont get cocky past/present me, future me will be watching
In the last few years of Lovecraft's life he actually hated most of his stories due to how short-sighted and racist they all were. That's a big reason why he stopped writing entirely. That does not make his earlier conceptions of other races justified, but it's better late than never.
Moreso than that. He spent his entire childhood in the library of his well-to-do family mansion reading and barely interacting with anyone except his family. Then as an adult it was "Hey welcome to Brooklyn, by the way while you were being young and sheltered the world got awful different. Enjoy this neighborhood full of shit you don't recognize and people you don't speak the same language as".
This may or may not be one of the strangest things you've heard a comment or say, but I actually listened to your videos to relax. Something that I actually almost listen to in the background as you go about giving your thoughts on different video games. Thanks for the great videos!
Quest for Glory IV does eldritch horror pretty well, I think. Raise your stats as much as you like, but you’re never going to be powerful enough to even scratch the Cthulhu equivalent in that game, and it takes a much more powerful wizard than you just to send it back to its own universe (and that only at the cost of her life).
While I have definitely made that quip before myself, Disney was only racist when it came to voting and political donations. As a businessman, Disney shied away from any stereotypes that anyone would recognize as racist. Contrast that with Lovecraft's stories, like "Medusa's Coils" where he unabashedly calls people "nigger", or "The Street" where demons show up to kill all the white people for the sin of not being racist towards black people
Has anyone actually read "The Call of Cthulhu?" Half of its "horror" derives from how HP Lovecraft is certain that we all think that anyone who isn't a white, aristocratic, Protestant or atheistic New Englander is automatically scary.
I advise all to watch his fallout 76 vid on the website, he not only roasts the game like a good meat but also gives some good points on industry journalism and game trends.
space hulk deathwing was made by "streum on studio" but they're also french and strange so i forgive the confusion. that game and this one were both published by focus home interactive after all. Cyanide studio made space hulk tactics (and bloodbowl, and the styx games, and lots of sports and generic fantasy games)
If only someone could nail down the feeling of Lovecraftian horror in a video game. It just doesn't seem likely. The way Lovecraft winds his words around your mind like a snare, holding you totally captive in this atmosphere of dread and tension. It just can't be done without those words that just perfectly obscure just enough detail as to keep your imagination turning up unsettling imagery. However, the real horror is not in the imagery, but the thought of what goes on in the mind of Lovecraft himself.
@@droylajarhirthefelinethief81 I've tried it actually! Honestly surprised I forgot about it. The narration is amazing in that game, sets the tone perfectly. Darkest Dungeon and Bloodborne are the closest to the proper atmosphere imo. Those are both action games though. If only someone could make a real Lovecraftian survival horror with the gameplay of something like silent hill, now that's a game that really makes you feel powerless.
I appreciate I'm four years late but for some reason I can never resist the urge to bring this up: if you think Yahtz talks quickly you should visit the North of... Northern Ireland. _Normal_ Northern Irish people like me already speak about as fast as Yahtz and even we can barely keep up with people from the likes of Ballymena. For years, I genuinely wondered how they weren't all super-geniuses if their brains were able to formulate what to say next in the nanosecond it took for them to say what they'd thought of to say last but I eventually realised they use full sentences where most people would use a, "like," or an, "umm." ...yeah, totally worth responding to a four year old comment for that. Oh, well.
I get the feeling that Cthulhu games are doing the mythos wrong: Cthulhu's supposed to be an undefeatable monster that you hope doesn't notice you so you can get away. This would serve a stealth game well, if they just did stealth properly and had some actual story! It's literally a gold plated offering for generic stealth, and bolloxing it up is like accidentally trying to eat cereal with a fork because you're convinced it must be better.
Cthulhu was hurt in the story, but only temporarily and when he was at his weakest. The main video game comparison that comes to mind is Earthbound, since you time travel to the best possible circumstances to beat Giygas. I’d argue that Earthbound did it better.
It's very hard to get right. Once you "see" the threat, it makes it more relateable, more understandable, less mystique, everything you don't want with Cthulhu. It's why this works better in cinema, where the director, not the viewer, controlls the camera. I suppose you could change the perpective of the camera, change perspective of who you play as (eg, Cultist Simulator), and/or change the kind of game (to not be horror), but when you do that you also lose some of the fun. Personally, if I made something to do with Cthulhu, I'd take inspiration from Ninja Theory's (making the distiction as their is at least two games with the same name) Hellblade, for sound and ambiance, use a camera system similar to Republique and FNAF, and a rogue-like system similar to ZombieU. In other words you'd play as the support role, a Diana to Agent 47, a Irving/Anna to Sam Fisher, an Otakon to Solid Snake, a Cortana to Master Chief.. I think you get the point. You'd need to guide someone through the levels, gaining items, knowlidge, and so on, while avoiding monsters, traps, and things that could hurt their sanity... and maybe your own. Is that room safe? Am I really hearing my partner being hurt? Am I going mad? Or is my own partner, who I've been helping going to kill me? THAT'S what I'd aim to target.
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem handled it pretty well. You never killed any of the major elder gods. You just set up situations where they would kill each other. And this was only even accomplished because the strongest of them all was empowering the various player characters to do so in the first place.
Well... in all honesty, if you stick to the mythos, you'd never see any of the bigger creatures from the mythos and get away with a character sane enough you could play as him. A good Cthulhu game, IMO, would need to be basically a mystery thriller that keeps the "big guys" completely out of it... or ends with you seeing them, because that's pretty much it anyway. The only other option I see is to handle insanity in a game really, really well... which seems to be almost impossible, judging by how many games have tried and failed by simply using a "wobbly filter" and switching out a few pictures on the wall.
Yeah, I saw the review. He didn't like it (which is quite reasonable, as even though I'm a huge fan of BGS' games and Fallout in general, Fallout 76 is pretty awful. Though I'll admit I'm pretty surprised by how "eh" he was about it. I mean, he still _really_ didn't like it and gave the game a pretty negative review, but for a Yahtzee review, he sounded more bored and disinterested (at least from my perspective) than righteously angry (which is what I was more expecting).
you know, everytime I want to think about H.P Lovecrafts games, I can only think about how BLOODBORNE managed to somehow do this better. and the more I think about this game the more I end up trying to write a design document about how a Lovecraft type game should be made.
HP lovecraft was less racist later on in his life, he had some personal letters where he detailed some of his shifting opinions. So there's that at least? Edit: for those curious source and more info/a complete picture of the lovecraft race stuff th-cam.com/video/S-BnVh86Emw/w-d-xo.html
@Mac Mcskullface Well actually he was pretty out their even for the 30's. But Josh is only half right, he didn't become less racist, he was not longer a racist by the time he died. He actually hated most of his stories due to how short-sighted and racist they all where and it's a big reason why he stopped writing entirely. That does not make his earlier conceptions justified, but it's better late than never.
Saying that someone is less racist is like saying someone is less of an alcoholic because he now drinks to stupor only in the evenings instead from the morning. You are either racist or you are not. That being said Lovecraft is product of his era and upbringing, that does not bother me when I read his books because I try to separate the author from the work and enjoy it for my self.
@Zack Ceasar Well, when our country is founded on genocide, racial slavery, and imperialism, it tends to produce a lot of racist ideology and that tends to produce a lot of racist power structures. So, I guess we can either just throw our hands up, say "I guess we're all racist now" and joing the Neo-Nazis or we can actually try to understand the racist systems at play in our modern society and see if there's anything we can do to change them. I'll grant you, one of those choices is definitely easier and certainly requires a whole lot less study and self-reflection.
@Mac Mcskullface Nah, Lovecraft was pretty racist. Even his friends called him out on it. But honestly, I never saw a ton of racism in his actual stories (considering like 99% of his characters are white male New Englanders, and the bad guys are mostly indescribable alien monsters).
Mh, I'm just gonna quote the quote i quoted in the let's play I've seen: "Wait, I'm confused [...]. So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?"
Call of Cthulhu is basically the Frozen of Lovecraftian horror: using magic to obscure a bunch of plots that have nothing to do with each other all mashed together for the sake of having set pieces.
But Frozen sold. Don’t think too hard about it and forget the first half when you reach the last third of a game, that’s how I do it. At some point there’s gonna be a really ducking good Cthulhu game, with good animations and a new spin to it. But these types of game have to overflow with clicheés, The source material was really good.
"I think the moment the game officially lost me was when a giant, spindly monster climbed out of a painting for a surprise stealth section in full view with no subtlety or build-up" That happened much earlier in Dark Corners of the Earth. Ok, it wasn't a painting, but it was in the cellar of the house of the cultists that you infiltrate IN THE INTRODUCTION. So you can't really accuse _this_ Call of Cthulhu for throwing such elements in your face earlier than Dark Corners of the Earth. Besides, Lovecraftian "fear of the unknown" just isn't scary. As you yourself pointed out in an essay once. To modern audiences, it's the mood that appeals.
I've seen so many cthulu-esq entertainment products I decided to read the source material. Now I just ask why anyone would bother trying to adapt it. I was more terrified of a stack of paper than any lovecraftian product since.
Lovecraft, a man considered an extremist during a period of American history where Black lynching was still common. He saw black people as a cruel joke by the gods, a cross between beast and human with the worst traits from both. Does that make you a racist if you enjoy his work? Fucking of course not, but that dosen't mean it's not a fair point to bring up when talking about the man.
Wow, the sheer amount of people who seem legit upset about Yatzhee's joke about Lovecrafts racism is astounding. Yatzhee's entire style is rapid fire caustic jokes, normally pop culture or obvious references. This was an obvious reference joke. This is what he does and has always done, especially in the past 3-4 years. I wonder how much bitching would have been in the comments if he didn't make a joke about it. Jeez...
Ending text jokes: Great old one Still it's nice to see that the Shambler's managed to lose a bit of weight since the Quake days. No baby harp seal was harmed for this video except one that deserved it.
Actually Cyanide only assisted in the development in Space Hulk: Deathwing. The bulk of the work was done by Streum On Studios: AKA the mad bastards who made EYE: Divine Cybermancy
@@xmm-cf5eg and COD WAW probably was one of the best in terms of plot. In terms of gameplay, eehhhh. I will admit that I can see why it set the standard for COD games, but it had flaws. Big gaping flaws at that.
I love lovecraft even though he talked shit about my race (calling french canadians clamorous and saying they were a fine addition to the majesty of england's empire). The thing is, its easy to say that racism is a bad thing without viewing the point of the person you call racist in its entirety, often without realizing where that person comes from and how they got that opinion (facts are racist and your feelings are subjective at best). Its not because he talked about a black sailor and called him the N word that he's some sort of biggoted asshole, you just need to lighten up about playing your victim card to a man dead for almost a century and enjoy his work for what it is.
I found it funny how at first it seems like a big deal that you can work with the law, or make use of an uneasy alliance with bootleg boss girl, but it's just thrown away later on.
I think you've actually hit the nail on the head for why the Cthulhu Mythos doesn't work anymore. It's about the fear of the unknown, but I know Cthulhu, the Deep Ones, Shoggoths, the Elder Things, Azatoth, Yog-Sothoth, and all the others. They aren't scary, they're comforting. As soon as I know it's a Deep One it loses any value beyond jump scares. Lovecraftian horror needs to ditch the Lovecraft, at which point I think most of the pacing problems will sort themselves out (especially as you can now more easily keep up the pretence that it's not Lovecraftian horror). There are stories and games which actually do this, and they''re generally much more enjoyable.
Another thing that hurts Lovecraftian/cosmic horror is the rising acceptance of nihilism. If you already believe that life is meaningless and your actions don't matter the reveal of your absolute powerlessness and the lack of any caring deity just reinforce your already held views rather than being a shocking twist.
And even then if you cook up your own mythos, the instant you start showing it people will start drawing connections and getting comfortable again. There's probably a few visual themes that don't have easy connections back to 'comfortable' Lovecraft templates but if you're doing that there's the problem of making it seem scary without that immediate callback to the mainstays.
I do think the patchiness of the game is mostly do to that this game was originally being made by Frogware (the people who made the Sherlock Holmes games and are currently working on the Sinking City) before they handed the project to Cyanide.
He wasn't "standard white American dude at the turn of the century" racist. He was so racist that even his contemporaries thought he needed to chill. Seriously, look up some of the shit he said. Lovecraft himself was scarier than anything he wrote.
It also serves as a sort of tongue in cheek reminder to not forget your history. It's not uncommon for people to forget the flaws/harmful world views of artists from bygone eras. Lovecraft up until a later point in his life was a vehemently racist person, and some people forget that detail when recommending his books. Similarly, Roald Dahl, the man who created such works as "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and "James and the Gian Peach", was a confirmed Anit-Semite and at times a pretty nasty one. Yahtzee and others making smarmy comments are a nice way to keep such things in mind without letting it bog down how good the works themselves are.
...did you watch the vid? He names (shows) several of the proper ones. He talks at some length about the proper call of cthulhu game: dark corners of the earth. And then shows examples such as darkest dungeon and amnesia. ...pay the fuck attention.
Is it a requirement for TH-camrs to call Lovecraft a racist in every video related to him nowadays? I never heard that much about it before, now it's all over the place.
Which is sad because the man's fear of minorities is just a very small sample of his phobias. He was afraid of the ocean, New York City, Southerners, small towns, Germany, the color gray, non-english speakers, Seafood, mist, New England, long periods of time, non-euclidean geometry, brittle cloth, cloudy days, Germany, Africa, isolation, and moisture. It would be easier to list what he wasn't afraid of. The man didn't have issues the man had volumes. Putting it all down to racism is selling short just how much of a basket case this guy was. And he wrote about what he knew which was fear.
OMGEpyonistaken probably in the hopes that if it’s repeated enough times, it’ll eventually become general, well-known information rather than something only people who watch gaming videos and inhabit a few particular corners of the internet know.
@Joel Schembri According to his biography he was a massive recluse for most of his life. His circle of friends was his only real connection with the outside world. He did most of his work through correspondence
Wouldn't the horror actually work better if the main character WASN'T a hardened person like a grizzled detective, but instead a person who is curious but not strong, such as an amateur but glory-seeking journalist?
N00B's Stuff I’m talking about political correctness, what’s considered politically correct changes as the years go by, though the meaning doesn’t, failing to address the real issue, I’m asking if he’s considered politically incorrect now, or if he was considered politically incorrect even back then.
Cyanide Studios also did the Styx games if I'm not mistaken. That might be a good review idea. There are flaws sure, but I think they're fairly solid stealth games.
Congrats, Yahtzee, for being the twenty trillionth person to make a joke about Lovecraft’s overt racism. Do you want a woke cookie? I don’t fault him, it’s an easy joke to make, but that’s exactly why it’s so annoying. It’s like common Trump humor from people like Colbert or John Oliver. My thoughts, as well as those of many others like me, could be best summed up as: “It’s not that I disagree with the observation; in fact the observation is quite obviously true. It’s just that you’re pointing it out in the same way that everybody else has when your job is to entertain with insight and clever connections. There are funny anti Trump jokes but they’re just so rare! If the joke about another person’s moral depravity isn’t funny, then all it amounts to is patronizing preaching” On another note I did quite enjoy this review
Guilherme Eduardo Carvalho I’m not mad or roused at all. Like I said, I quite enjoyed the video. I’m within my rights to criticize what many consider to be a cliched, unoriginal, unfunny joke. The only reason I took the time to type out the comment is because I’m currently waiting for a class to start and I don’t have much else to do until 2:00 (eastern time). I think I made it pretty clear I’m not personally insulting Yahtzee or his work as a whole, just one little joke.
I dunno what it is with people trying to say lovecraft wasn't racist and was more like his time, rather than the people who say he eased up over the years and regretted his past actions. Because unlike the past actions one, claiming he wasn't racist is ignoring blatantly obvious things, like claims of racial superiority outright, and what he named his cat.
If you were anyone else I would suggest a pause after your jokes to give me time to laugh so I can hear the next joke. I just have to pause it a lot. You are so friggin funny.
"So by now your Cthulu game Bingo card should have more crosses than an infant graveyard in an anti-vaxxer community" Jesus Christ, Yahtzee. That is cold-blooded.
To be fair, Yog-Sothoth remembered you doing *that* before you even did it. Yog-Sothoth also remembers you taking all of the other available options, too.
IndustrialBonecraft being the All-in-one has its perks ya know.
Yog-Sothoth knows the dialogue tree. Yog-Sothoth _is_ the dialogue tree. Dialogue and tree, all game elements are one in Yog-Sothoth.
"Remember when you did that thing? Well, Yog-Sothoth remembers."
Oh hey a video related to Lovecraft, I wonder how long it'll be until he mentions raci--
15 seconds, new world record
Not very long, I mean I can well imagine in the future, they'll see racism like we see astrology. "You believe skin pigment effects personality? Oh and star positions? And voodoo dolls? And phrenology?"
@Mac Mcskullface Yeah, I know, that was kind of my point. It's just superficial shallowness... That, in this case, led to unspeakable horrors of human rights breaches for a very long time but it's basis is no different to the other things I mentioned.
When people take it too seriously
So how is Lovecraft racist?
(Asking as an outsider who doesn’t follow Lovecraft)
If the devs really knew HP Lovecraft, the main character would always be a well put together protagonist with a vague and sometimes unknown connection between their ancestry and whatever Lovecraftian horror theyre caught in. Lovecraft is about breaking the human interpretation of reality and sanity, not about beating an already broken man. Unless you count Dagon, I suppose. That guy was fucked from paragraph 1
I thought the guy from Dagon was supposed to be normal until he was shipwrecked and saw the giant sea monster. But then again, the only reason he got there in the first place was because he decided to escape the relatively benign imprisonment on a german warship in order to row across the entire open sea in only a small lifeboat, so maybe he didn't have the best judgement on things.
@@blondbraid7986 Now that mention that, I do agree with you. Forgive me, Dagon was the first I read of his stories so its a little hazy in the memory.
Point is, you being correct only reinforces my original comment, and now I kinda want to make a list of main characters in order of time it took for insanity to set in
@@HavikXIII It's an understandable mistake, I mean, the story basically starts with him writing a suicide note before it flashes back to how he got insane, so you can easily get the impression that he was mad from the start because that's how he was introduced.
Are either of you disappointed by Shadow over Innsmouth? Its like Lovecraft wrote an engaging discovery/escape story, then remembered that he's not allowed to write happy endings and glued on a bit at the end.
Eh, the "vague and sometimes unknown connection between their ancestry and whatever Lovecraftian horror theyre caught in" was mostly just Shadow over Innsmouth. Most of his protagonists, if you can call them that, just stumbled upon a box of journals and newspaper clippings that tell the tale of someone else, or maybe a couple people, one of whom might be a relative or old mentor to the 'protagonist.' Sometimes the protagonist is more involved, but still in a sort of tangential way. The downstairs neighbor of the technically dead guy who was keeping himself mostly functional through a combination of chemicals and air conditioning, for instance. Or the surveyor who got kinda creeped out by the local kook and his story about the blasted heath. I know of a couple who got a little more involved, the guy who didn't see the insanity inducing stuff At the Mountains of Madness but *did* get chased by a shogoth and the trio from Miskatonic University who decided to *fight* the thing wrecking shit in Dunwich. Oddly enough, they won.
In short, the ancestral connection to some eldritch horror doesn't come up with the protagonists very much. I get the impression it only came up in Shadow Over Innsmouth because Lovecraft found out his great-grandmother was (gasp!) Welsh.
What I wanna know is...is this a direct or collect call? I may love Cthulhu, but I'm not paying for those long distance rates!
I'm more worried about the calling convention. Get it wrong and the nasal monsters start showing up.
A call direct call all the way to the infinite void of the outer ring? The charge on that alone would make you insane!
Worse, it's a premium call with a machine that not only has awful voice recognition, but is all slowed and distorted from too much use... Only $74 a minute!
Cthulhu uses a burner phone.
It's the booty call of cthulhu.
Cthulhu only calls me when at 2 a.m. when he’s drunk
And he does it psychically too, which is really annoying.
I can't take the dreams anymore.
"Go home, Cthulhu, you're drunk!"
*I AM HOOOOME*
Oh come on. It was only that one time.
@@moralityisnotsubjective5 Dagon had to drive you home and you ATE Seaworld!!!!
@@amannamedsquid313 Was that not an all you can eat buffet?
"Toblerone-in-the-eye-sockets-mental" Every week Yahtzee adds a new phrase to my vocab
Cycling manager, Cycling manager, Cycling manager, DEATHWING, CTHULHU!
Boy that escalated quickly.
And they're apparently doing a 'Werewolf: the Apocolypse' game, eventually.
Pierce's disheveled look every time something weird happened really bugged me too. I'm almost certain that they intended to have him look more and more disheveled based on your sanity meter, but they either scrapped the idea or didn't know how to make it work properly.
..So by now your Call of Cthulhu bingo card should have more crosses than an infant graveyard in an anti-vaxxer community.
SAVAGE
That actually caused me to spit take.
God dam dude you need more likes.
You killed it by typing SAVAGE IN ALL FUCKING CAPS
he speaks so fast I miss out on some of these gems. T_T
That's why we love Yahtzee
"more crosses than an infant graveyard in an antivaxer community" perfect.
I recommend reading Yahtzee's books. It's stuff like that for hundreds of pages at a time. Also, he's a genuinely talented storyteller.
Something I just realised they could’ve done with the spindly monster is that early on you pass by the painting. Or find the room with it, and then continue out the other door. Later, you could get attacked by it. Maybe just have it’s shadow appear and you need to hide. You wonder if that is what killed the girl you’re investigating. You find a couple more portraits of something creepy. Then you come back past the first painting at some point to find that it’s empty, the monster having left it to chase you. And then later, you come across the portraits to find that they’re empty to. And then you need to run from a horde of the things before they get you.
I remember an indie game that touched on the Cthulhu Mythos a hell of a lot better than this game. It was called "Consuming Shadow."
Now if I could just remember who it was by...
(Apparently 'touched on' will get autocorrected to touchdown if you're not careful and hit send before correcting autocorrect. Hence the edit)
He should plug his gmes more, some of them are quite interesting. This video seems like it'd be the perfect piece for an ad for the game. Though, thinking about it I wonder if he's not allowed (without money changing hands) as it could be seen as an Escapist endorsement/affiliate.
Yahtzee played through this game on his other channel, yahtzee19
(For those who don't know, Yahtzee has made some games and Consuming Shadow is one of them)
That game is rad
@@Carlos-ln8fd I really dug that game the investigation aspect was really interesting and the general atmosphere of a chaotic collapsing world was fantastic.
What?! No petition to go buy The Consuming Shadow at the end? I am disappointed
I'm pretty sure it's a free game
@@CorporealHunter It's $10 on Steam at least
@@crowmooregaming3252 Ah yes sorry, my error. I don't know why I assumed it was freeware.
@@CorporealHunter The first version was free, the Insanity Edition on Steam is like a Director's Cut with more things.
I feel like none of your choices mattering is pretty spot-on for something based in the Cthulu Mythos. In fact, it's kinda a big theme for the stories isn't it?
At first I thought Call of Cthulhu was some kind of Lovecraft themed Call of Duty game.
Excuse me Woodrow Wilson is my favorite American racist
My favorite american racist is Louis "Eugene Walcott" Farrakhan.
Nothing like black people being proud of getting called Hitler.
Disney, because Songs of the South and Dumbo are really good movies. Catchy tunes too.
My favorite is Andrew Jackson.
You can tell him off if you want, but he's killed better men than you.
@@nessesaryschoolthing Andrew "Real men commit genocide" Jackson.
@@Jamie-kg8ig There aren't a lot of certifiable racists that haven't committed genocide, okay, it comes with the territory. Although from his perspective the territory comes with the genocide.
after the intro it took 5 whole seconds before mentioning lovecraft's racism.
thats got to be a world record
you know i always come back to these old comments to make fun of myself but you know what this one gets a pass
dont get cocky past/present me, future me will be watching
@@julius9943
Oh look, a fellow weirdo.
In the last few years of Lovecraft's life he actually hated most of his stories due to how short-sighted and racist they all were. That's a big reason why he stopped writing entirely. That does not make his earlier conceptions of other races justified, but it's better late than never.
Regal Pixel King
thats neat
Regal Pixel King were*
Good Guy Lovecraft in the end, cool.
To be fair, he did have a fear of the unknown, and other races are an unknown.
Moreso than that. He spent his entire childhood in the library of his well-to-do family mansion reading and barely interacting with anyone except his family. Then as an adult it was "Hey welcome to Brooklyn, by the way while you were being young and sheltered the world got awful different. Enjoy this neighborhood full of shit you don't recognize and people you don't speak the same language as".
Cyanide is also known for Blood Bowl and Blood Bowl II
I am really hoping that those are games about vampire bowling
@@twoeleven7840 more like Vampires playing Rugby with Orcs and Ratmen
@@themightysven And it's a strategic sports game series where you must pray to RNGesus.
I came in to the comment section looking for this comment.
In this day and age, i feel like that IS a genuine thing to celebrate a developer to be.
Bloodborne did it right
I feel like Dead Space did it right too...
@@theblocksays I reckon some people do actually try to suck it alone in the dark.
@@TheNightquaker HHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Dead Space is my favorite spin on it.
Dante Van Deva I didn't even know Dead Space was part of the Mythos
This may or may not be one of the strangest things you've heard a comment or say, but I actually listened to your videos to relax. Something that I actually almost listen to in the background as you go about giving your thoughts on different video games. Thanks for the great videos!
Cyanide was also responsible for two of the best stealth games in this generation, that is to say, Styx 1 and 2.
Apparently it is hard to notice stealth games nowadays.
Didn't they make E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy or am I getting it wrong?
Quest for Glory IV does eldritch horror pretty well, I think. Raise your stats as much as you like, but you’re never going to be powerful enough to even scratch the Cthulhu equivalent in that game, and it takes a much more powerful wizard than you just to send it back to its own universe (and that only at the cost of her life).
I'm gonna be honest. It was rough around the edges, but an extremely great experience that I thoroughly enjoyed.
Azathoth will remember you did that.
I doubt he can honestly.
Yahtzee made it through the review without mentioning "The Consuming Shadow" - didn't see that one coming.
I look forward to these videos an insane amount. Never dull. Nice one (as ever) you sarcastic hero.
America's favorite racist? I thought that was walt disney. XD
While I have definitely made that quip before myself, Disney was only racist when it came to voting and political donations. As a businessman, Disney shied away from any stereotypes that anyone would recognize as racist. Contrast that with Lovecraft's stories, like "Medusa's Coils" where he unabashedly calls people "nigger", or "The Street" where demons show up to kill all the white people for the sin of not being racist towards black people
@@TARINunit9 How can we not forget what Lovecraft named his cat
He didn't hate that writer's guild because they were Jewish, he hated them because they were unironic communists.
>Cyanide
>World's most competent mid-range developer
Well, someone hasn't played Blood Bowl...
Most competent mid-range developer is a pretty decent accolade in this world of incompetent triple A developers.
I'd certainly take the former over the latter
Has anyone actually read "The Call of Cthulhu?" Half of its "horror" derives from how HP Lovecraft is certain that we all think that anyone who isn't a white, aristocratic, Protestant or atheistic New Englander is automatically scary.
You're not Zero Punctu- oh wait...
Please sto- hold on, you're ok this time.
Why are you talking like th-
I knew you were gonna learn sometime.
See? I had faith in you. And you didn't disappoint.
Someone must have killed the original guy and replaced him.
If you were trying to do the Candlejack meme, you did it wro
I advise all to watch his fallout 76 vid on the website, he not only roasts the game like a good meat but also gives some good points on industry journalism and game trends.
yog shoggoth will remember you wrote that on the comment section
yeah, well, he'll remember that i wrote it even if i choose not to write it, so...
Yog Sothoth will remember what you didnt wrote on the comment section
space hulk deathwing was made by "streum on studio" but they're also french and strange so i forgive the confusion. that game and this one were both published by focus home interactive after all. Cyanide studio made space hulk tactics (and bloodbowl, and the styx games, and lots of sports and generic fantasy games)
Cthulu won't return my calls: says I'm too creepy
If only someone could nail down the feeling of Lovecraftian horror in a video game. It just doesn't seem likely. The way Lovecraft winds his words around your mind like a snare, holding you totally captive in this atmosphere of dread and tension. It just can't be done without those words that just perfectly obscure just enough detail as to keep your imagination turning up unsettling imagery. However, the real horror is not in the imagery, but the thought of what goes on in the mind of Lovecraft himself.
Try Darkest Dungeon. It's very grindy, but it has the best Lovecraftian atmosphere I've ever seen.
@@droylajarhirthefelinethief81 I've tried it actually! Honestly surprised I forgot about it. The narration is amazing in that game, sets the tone perfectly. Darkest Dungeon and Bloodborne are the closest to the proper atmosphere imo. Those are both action games though. If only someone could make a real Lovecraftian survival horror with the gameplay of something like silent hill, now that's a game that really makes you feel powerless.
Wait Yahtzee, didn’t you make a game your self that had something to do with the lovecraftian mythos? Consuming shadow anyone?
Sort of - while it's certainly in the same style as Lovecraft, all the horrors from beyond the veil are OC Do Not Steal.
sometimes I watch videos at 1.25x speed to save myself some time, but yahtzees natural voice is already at 1.35x speed.
I appreciate I'm four years late but for some reason I can never resist the urge to bring this up: if you think Yahtz talks quickly you should visit the North of... Northern Ireland. _Normal_ Northern Irish people like me already speak about as fast as Yahtz and even we can barely keep up with people from the likes of Ballymena. For years, I genuinely wondered how they weren't all super-geniuses if their brains were able to formulate what to say next in the nanosecond it took for them to say what they'd thought of to say last but I eventually realised they use full sentences where most people would use a, "like," or an, "umm."
...yeah, totally worth responding to a four year old comment for that. Oh, well.
I get the feeling that Cthulhu games are doing the mythos wrong: Cthulhu's supposed to be an undefeatable monster that you hope doesn't notice you so you can get away. This would serve a stealth game well, if they just did stealth properly and had some actual story! It's literally a gold plated offering for generic stealth, and bolloxing it up is like accidentally trying to eat cereal with a fork because you're convinced it must be better.
wasnt his body distroyed in the book
i know it reformed but still he can be killed
Cthulhu was hurt in the story, but only temporarily and when he was at his weakest. The main video game comparison that comes to mind is Earthbound, since you time travel to the best possible circumstances to beat Giygas. I’d argue that Earthbound did it better.
It's very hard to get right. Once you "see" the threat, it makes it more relateable, more understandable, less mystique, everything you don't want with Cthulhu. It's why this works better in cinema, where the director, not the viewer, controlls the camera. I suppose you could change the perpective of the camera, change perspective of who you play as (eg, Cultist Simulator), and/or change the kind of game (to not be horror), but when you do that you also lose some of the fun.
Personally, if I made something to do with Cthulhu, I'd take inspiration from Ninja Theory's (making the distiction as their is at least two games with the same name) Hellblade, for sound and ambiance, use a camera system similar to Republique and FNAF, and a rogue-like system similar to ZombieU. In other words you'd play as the support role, a Diana to Agent 47, a Irving/Anna to Sam Fisher, an Otakon to Solid Snake, a Cortana to Master Chief.. I think you get the point. You'd need to guide someone through the levels, gaining items, knowlidge, and so on, while avoiding monsters, traps, and things that could hurt their sanity... and maybe your own. Is that room safe? Am I really hearing my partner being hurt? Am I going mad? Or is my own partner, who I've been helping going to kill me? THAT'S what I'd aim to target.
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem handled it pretty well. You never killed any of the major elder gods. You just set up situations where they would kill each other. And this was only even accomplished because the strongest of them all was empowering the various player characters to do so in the first place.
Well... in all honesty, if you stick to the mythos, you'd never see any of the bigger creatures from the mythos and get away with a character sane enough you could play as him. A good Cthulhu game, IMO, would need to be basically a mystery thriller that keeps the "big guys" completely out of it... or ends with you seeing them, because that's pretty much it anyway.
The only other option I see is to handle insanity in a game really, really well... which seems to be almost impossible, judging by how many games have tried and failed by simply using a "wobbly filter" and switching out a few pictures on the wall.
You should retro review dark corners of the earth
Next week is Fallout 76!!!
Seen it on The Escapist website?
@Joel Schembri It's uh on the Escapist website right now...
Yeah, I saw the review. He didn't like it (which is quite reasonable, as even though I'm a huge fan of BGS' games and Fallout in general, Fallout 76 is pretty awful. Though I'll admit I'm pretty surprised by how "eh" he was about it. I mean, he still _really_ didn't like it and gave the game a pretty negative review, but for a Yahtzee review, he sounded more bored and disinterested (at least from my perspective) than righteously angry (which is what I was more expecting).
@Joel Schembri Yeah, it wasn't even that brutal from my perspective - He was more just bored and slightly annoyed from my perspective.
@Joel Schembri Eh, fair enough.
you know, everytime I want to think about H.P Lovecrafts games, I can only think about how BLOODBORNE managed to somehow do this better. and the more I think about this game the more I end up trying to write a design document about how a Lovecraft type game should be made.
HP lovecraft was less racist later on in his life, he had some personal letters where he detailed some of his shifting opinions. So there's that at least?
Edit: for those curious source and more info/a complete picture of the lovecraft race stuff th-cam.com/video/S-BnVh86Emw/w-d-xo.html
@Mac Mcskullface Well actually he was pretty out their even for the 30's. But Josh is only half right, he didn't become less racist, he was not longer a racist by the time he died. He actually hated most of his stories due to how short-sighted and racist they all where and it's a big reason why he stopped writing entirely. That does not make his earlier conceptions justified, but it's better late than never.
Saying that someone is less racist is like saying someone is less of an alcoholic because he now drinks to stupor only in the evenings instead from the morning. You are either racist or you are not. That being said Lovecraft is product of his era and upbringing, that does not bother me when I read his books because I try to separate the author from the work and enjoy it for my self.
@Zack Ceasar Well, when our country is founded on genocide, racial slavery, and imperialism, it tends to produce a lot of racist ideology and that tends to produce a lot of racist power structures. So, I guess we can either just throw our hands up, say "I guess we're all racist now" and joing the Neo-Nazis or we can actually try to understand the racist systems at play in our modern society and see if there's anything we can do to change them. I'll grant you, one of those choices is definitely easier and certainly requires a whole lot less study and self-reflection.
@Zack Ceasar Modern isn't synonymous with SJW, believe it or not, not everyone who isn't a white straight male is an SJW
@Mac Mcskullface Nah, Lovecraft was pretty racist. Even his friends called him out on it. But honestly, I never saw a ton of racism in his actual stories (considering like 99% of his characters are white male New Englanders, and the bad guys are mostly indescribable alien monsters).
".. making them toblerones in the eye sockets mental." I had a very good laugh for a solid minute there. Thanks you.
More crosses than an infant graveyard in an antivaxer community
These just keep getting better!
Mh, I'm just gonna quote the quote i quoted in the let's play I've seen:
"Wait, I'm confused [...]. So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?"
_Yog-Sothoth will remember that._
"Yog-Sothoth had foreseen that but let it happen anyway because it fits the cosmic design"
FINALLY someone noticed that it's the same voice actor! So many people don't realise that!
To be fair to Cynanide Studios, they must be pretty successful if they made 3 Cycling Manager games.
lol, I wish it flashed "yog sothoth will remember you did that", seems like it'd make it a lot more fun
Call of Cthulhu is basically the Frozen of Lovecraftian horror: using magic to obscure a bunch of plots that have nothing to do with each other all mashed together for the sake of having set pieces.
But Frozen sold. Don’t think too hard about it and forget the first half when you reach the last third of a game, that’s how I do it.
At some point there’s gonna be a really ducking good Cthulhu game, with good animations and a new spin to it. But these types of game have to overflow with clicheés, The source material was really good.
Yahtzee should make a Cthulu game, call it the consuming shadow or something.
Wait. Incestuous? I thought the National Stereotype of the French was "adulterous boozehound"?
As I understand it, the french eat frogs and they smell.
Adulterous and incestuous aren't mutually exclusive.
I always thought the stereotype was them walking around with berets and baguettes everywhere, and saying "Oh la la!" at everything.
@@NotHPotter No, but, they aren't correlated, either.
I was trying to make a joke. But this whole discussion is so dumb that it's hard to be on the same level...
I genuinely enjoyed this game. I think I already beat it 6 times. I've got the entire game down to under 2 hours lol.
"I think the moment the game officially lost me was when a giant, spindly monster climbed out of a painting for a surprise stealth section in full view with no subtlety or build-up"
That happened much earlier in Dark Corners of the Earth. Ok, it wasn't a painting, but it was in the cellar of the house of the cultists that you infiltrate IN THE INTRODUCTION. So you can't really accuse _this_ Call of Cthulhu for throwing such elements in your face earlier than Dark Corners of the Earth.
Besides, Lovecraftian "fear of the unknown" just isn't scary. As you yourself pointed out in an essay once. To modern audiences, it's the mood that appeals.
I've seen so many cthulu-esq entertainment products I decided to read the source material. Now I just ask why anyone would bother trying to adapt it. I was more terrified of a stack of paper than any lovecraftian product since.
Expected him to say it's as scary as noneuclidian geometry
You expected him to make a joke that you yourself specifically came up with?
...Why would you do that? He's not you. You're not him.
@@BoneBeastKimimaro that was a reference to the original cthulu story
bloodstone ore non Euclidian geometry is fun, not scary.
"The lines! They are parallel, and yet they cross! AAAAAGH!"
overly sarcastic productions does a good bit on this
Lovecraft, a man considered an extremist during a period of American history where Black lynching was still common. He saw black people as a cruel joke by the gods, a cross between beast and human with the worst traits from both.
Does that make you a racist if you enjoy his work? Fucking of course not, but that dosen't mean it's not a fair point to bring up when talking about the man.
Wow, the sheer amount of people who seem legit upset about Yatzhee's joke about Lovecrafts racism is astounding. Yatzhee's entire style is rapid fire caustic jokes, normally pop culture or obvious references. This was an obvious reference joke. This is what he does and has always done, especially in the past 3-4 years. I wonder how much bitching would have been in the comments if he didn't make a joke about it. Jeez...
Ending text jokes:
Great old one
Still it's nice to see that the Shambler's managed to lose a bit of weight since the Quake days.
No baby harp seal was harmed for this video except one that deserved it.
Knowing that Yahtzee will one day review *HuniePop*
it fills me with determination!
Fuck, we failed to stop him
I think you'll have better luck with the Roller Coaster Tycoon franchise.
The dream never dies!
y doe? he'll most likely shit on it and then you'll go on about how he just didn't get it or something
E1craZ4life the light of beloved sadistic childhood memories shines within you.
Actually Cyanide only assisted in the development in Space Hulk: Deathwing. The bulk of the work was done by Streum On Studios: AKA the mad bastards who made EYE: Divine Cybermancy
I’d like to imagine kids buying the original thinking it’d be like call of duty and playing an actual good game
You mean a kid's parents. They obviously don't care about the rating system so chances are they won't look too hard at time title too.
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Hey now, COD-2 was a good ass game.
Dark Corners of the Earth is a good game? That’s news to me.
@@xmm-cf5eg and COD WAW probably was one of the best in terms of plot. In terms of gameplay, eehhhh. I will admit that I can see why it set the standard for COD games, but it had flaws. Big gaping flaws at that.
I love how Yahtzee doesn't miss any opportunity to talk bad about French people 😂
I love lovecraft even though he talked shit about my race (calling french canadians clamorous and saying they were a fine addition to the majesty of england's empire). The thing is, its easy to say that racism is a bad thing without viewing the point of the person you call racist in its entirety, often without realizing where that person comes from and how they got that opinion (facts are racist and your feelings are subjective at best). Its not because he talked about a black sailor and called him the N word that he's some sort of biggoted asshole, you just need to lighten up about playing your victim card to a man dead for almost a century and enjoy his work for what it is.
1:06 Does that fist graphic have a watermarked logo on it?
Oh, come on. America has many more loved racists than Lovecraft
I found it funny how at first it seems like a big deal that you can work with the law, or make use of an uneasy alliance with bootleg boss girl, but it's just thrown away later on.
I think you've actually hit the nail on the head for why the Cthulhu Mythos doesn't work anymore. It's about the fear of the unknown, but I know Cthulhu, the Deep Ones, Shoggoths, the Elder Things, Azatoth, Yog-Sothoth, and all the others. They aren't scary, they're comforting. As soon as I know it's a Deep One it loses any value beyond jump scares. Lovecraftian horror needs to ditch the Lovecraft, at which point I think most of the pacing problems will sort themselves out (especially as you can now more easily keep up the pretence that it's not Lovecraftian horror). There are stories and games which actually do this, and they''re generally much more enjoyable.
Another thing that hurts Lovecraftian/cosmic horror is the rising acceptance of nihilism. If you already believe that life is meaningless and your actions don't matter the reveal of your absolute powerlessness and the lack of any caring deity just reinforce your already held views rather than being a shocking twist.
Yeah, the best Lovecraftian games nowadays all seem to be the ones that cook up their own mythos, like Darkest Dungeon or Bloodborne
And even then if you cook up your own mythos, the instant you start showing it people will start drawing connections and getting comfortable again. There's probably a few visual themes that don't have easy connections back to 'comfortable' Lovecraft templates but if you're doing that there's the problem of making it seem scary without that immediate callback to the mainstays.
The Lovecraft mythos is more cool Sci-Fi/weird fantasy at this point than horror I think
@@miguelpereira9859 something something Eldritch Skies.
That Toblerones in the Eye sockets mental line really got me good xD
Yeah this game is shit, play Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth instead
I do think the patchiness of the game is mostly do to that this game was originally being made by Frogware (the people who made the Sherlock Holmes games and are currently working on the Sinking City) before they handed the project to Cyanide.
Bringing up the fact that a person was racist a hundred years seems sort of redundant.
Not when you consider the fact that even his contemporaries thought he was too much for their tastes.
He wasn't "standard white American dude at the turn of the century" racist. He was so racist that even his contemporaries thought he needed to chill. Seriously, look up some of the shit he said. Lovecraft himself was scarier than anything he wrote.
It also serves as a sort of tongue in cheek reminder to not forget your history. It's not uncommon for people to forget the flaws/harmful world views of artists from bygone eras. Lovecraft up until a later point in his life was a vehemently racist person, and some people forget that detail when recommending his books. Similarly, Roald Dahl, the man who created such works as "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and "James and the Gian Peach", was a confirmed Anit-Semite and at times a pretty nasty one. Yahtzee and others making smarmy comments are a nice way to keep such things in mind without letting it bog down how good the works themselves are.
@The Grin Reaper Wat?
@Sammy R. well he could have
uncle toms exist so maybe he could have but i doubt it
Cycling manager, cycling manager 2, SPACE MARINE DEATHWING
So....i guess Bloodborne is still the only good Lovecraftian game.
...did you watch the vid? He names (shows) several of the proper ones. He talks at some length about the proper call of cthulhu game: dark corners of the earth. And then shows examples such as darkest dungeon and amnesia.
...pay the fuck attention.
LOLed at the bingo thing and the imp nurses and the ending! XD
Is it a requirement for TH-camrs to call Lovecraft a racist in every video related to him nowadays? I never heard that much about it before, now it's all over the place.
Which is sad because the man's fear of minorities is just a very small sample of his phobias. He was afraid of the ocean, New York City, Southerners, small towns, Germany, the color gray, non-english speakers, Seafood, mist, New England, long periods of time, non-euclidean geometry, brittle cloth, cloudy days, Germany, Africa, isolation, and moisture. It would be easier to list what he wasn't afraid of. The man didn't have issues the man had volumes. Putting it all down to racism is selling short just how much of a basket case this guy was. And he wrote about what he knew which was fear.
OMGEpyonistaken probably in the hopes that if it’s repeated enough times, it’ll eventually become general, well-known information rather than something only people who watch gaming videos and inhabit a few particular corners of the internet know.
@Joel Schembri he didn't basically he got his Jewish wife that he didn't really like to do it for him.
@Joel Schembri According to his biography he was a massive recluse for most of his life. His circle of friends was his only real connection with the outside world. He did most of his work through correspondence
Making fun of the mentally ill isn't towing the party line.
Wouldn't the horror actually work better if the main character WASN'T a hardened person like a grizzled detective, but instead a person who is curious but not strong, such as an amateur but glory-seeking journalist?
The last time I was this early to anything my girlfriend at the time said I should be ashamed of myself.
1:19 You know someone's British when they take the piss out of the French whenever possible
I am so sick of everyone saying lovercraft is racist, i get it he is racist you don’t have to tell it every single time
It’s is common knowledge, saying lovecraft is racist is like saying water is wet
he’s racist
Was he actually racist, or are his opinions considered racist in the 21st century? There’s a bit of a difference
@@sparkydoodle696 he was a bit of a nutter about race even for back then
N00B's Stuff I’m talking about political correctness, what’s considered politically correct changes as the years go by, though the meaning doesn’t, failing to address the real issue, I’m asking if he’s considered politically incorrect now, or if he was considered politically incorrect even back then.
Cyanide Studios also did the Styx games if I'm not mistaken. That might be a good review idea. There are flaws sure, but I think they're fairly solid stealth games.
Congrats, Yahtzee, for being the twenty trillionth person to make a joke about Lovecraft’s overt racism. Do you want a woke cookie?
I don’t fault him, it’s an easy joke to make, but that’s exactly why it’s so annoying. It’s like common Trump humor from people like Colbert or John Oliver. My thoughts, as well as those of many others like me, could be best summed up as:
“It’s not that I disagree with the observation; in fact the observation is quite obviously true. It’s just that you’re pointing it out in the same way that everybody else has when your job is to entertain with insight and clever connections. There are funny anti Trump jokes but they’re just so rare! If the joke about another person’s moral depravity isn’t funny, then all it amounts to is patronizing preaching”
On another note I did quite enjoy this review
Settle down, it was one joke.
Guilherme Eduardo Carvalho I’m not mad or roused at all. Like I said, I quite enjoyed the video. I’m within my rights to criticize what many consider to be a cliched, unoriginal, unfunny joke. The only reason I took the time to type out the comment is because I’m currently waiting for a class to start and I don’t have much else to do until 2:00 (eastern time).
I think I made it pretty clear I’m not personally insulting Yahtzee or his work as a whole, just one little joke.
@@formerctgovernordannelmall1452
my bf gets out of school at 2:45 eastern time
Guilherme Eduardo Carvalho college or primary school?
@@formerctgovernordannelmall1452 high school
So is this shadow over innsmouth?
wow who else is here before 10K.
before 3K!
Literally 9.9k right now.
Why does it matter
9,999 people.
the problem with lovecraft horror is that we are used to it, therefore it is no longer the unknown and also no longer scary.
I dunno what it is with people trying to say lovecraft wasn't racist and was more like his time, rather than the people who say he eased up over the years and regretted his past actions. Because unlike the past actions one, claiming he wasn't racist is ignoring blatantly obvious things, like claims of racial superiority outright, and what he named his cat.
What did he name his cat?
@@iamthechanceman The n word.
@@poncho3326 That's awfully tame for someone who's such a renowned racist, I'd figure that he'd just call him nigger.
The cat was already named that when he got it.
@@iamthechanceman Good one
Tbh your videos always make my day better
I wonder how many copies of cycling manager have been sold in the US?
I wish he'd review Dark Corners of the Earth.
If you were anyone else I would suggest a pause after your jokes to give me time to laugh so I can hear the next joke. I just have to pause it a lot. You are so friggin funny.
"So by now your Cthulu game Bingo card should have more crosses than an infant graveyard in an anti-vaxxer community"
Jesus Christ, Yahtzee. That is cold-blooded.
I do so enjoy these weekly videos. anyone up for some call of cthulhu Bingo?
"Baby harp seals in peril" amazing
Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation went down in quality for like a year, but it seems to be back! They're funny again, thank fuck.
Toblarones in the eyesockets mental
Speaking of Space Hulk Deathwing - FOR THE EMPEROR, PURGE THE XENOS!
did they stop posting these vids to the escapist site? just noticed the last one they posted was spiderman [from Sep]