I'm not usually the "told you so" type.. but UFO4 is one I'm happy to see drop after so many so-called comic "experts' said to hold at 4k 🤣 So many copies... there are still dealers out there with boxes and boxes of uncirculated copies.
I agree and also I think anybody who wants that book already has it… there was gonna be no flood of new fans dropping cash on comic books.. they were sold a pipe dream
@@jacobbornowsky4013 but it's 'the Amazing Fantasy #15 of our generation!!!' 🤣 What a joke - AF15 didn't have whole boxes being shipped down to CGC for encasement back in the 60's! and anyone who was around in the 90's heard the same thing about X-Men #1, Death of Superman and every #1 issued by Image.
As a dealer it must be a priority to roll out inventory asap before prices drop even more. Dealers must be hurting big time. How many collectors are bailing out. I have never seen so many books for sale, some that would rarely come to market ! People expect to pay 10% less than last sale creating a vicious cycle that has prices dropping fast. That FF48 example is scary. Other big key have dropped in half as well... I don't know if the market will be as strong post recession and if there is a world crisis, comics won't be a priority even for avid colectors... It doesn't help that the MCU is bombing. Wakanda forever put you to slept.... Btw great video as always. Financial fridays please!
I knew Mikes Morales first appearance would drop. Bunch of weirdos were paying thousands dollars for a character whos comic has been canceled and relaunched at least 3 times. The character has no real relevance in its actual source material. Which is comics. Then Marvel beat Miles like a dead horse with that What If comic series.
Peter Parker is spider-man. Always has been and always will be. Miles Morales is a flash in the pan. Just another one of the Spider-Man clones in this so-called Spider-Man universe. If you're going to buy a Spider-Man first appearance there's only one book to get and that's af15
Man o man, I'm sooo glad I got most of these books years and years ago and paid minimal or cover price (paid $40 for UF4). People seriously lost their money during the so-called comic boom. Sucks to be them. As always Dave, thanks for the updates.
Think it's time to face the music, we're all taking a loss on almost all of the books we bought last year, it's just aswell I actually love comic books n it was just a bonus if they went up or down
Just found 2 mint first print unread copies of 1st Miles that i bought at retail for 3.99!!! My backllogue was always ridiculous so they were in storage all this time. They may have fallen in price, but it's the book that has grown in price the most. That i purchased new. I have Spiey 300, but have read it a few times over the years and i never boarded comics in my early buying new off the shelf.
Hi David, you make an intriguing remark about UF4: you say that the print run is 80.000, and so, for this comic to rise, you need 80.000 people willing to spend say 1.000 dollar on it. You are of course right: by holding on to one's copy of UF4, one IS choosing to spend 1.000 dollar on it. But we are dealing here with highly imperfect markets (which is a main reason why I like the comics market so much!). I would guess that for just about any comic, at any given time, most copies will continue be held by their owners and not brought to market. This can be for various reasons: some owners simply see their copy as part of their private collection; some are not aware of its value; some are holding on to it for longer-term speculation; some (probably many!) simply suffer from inertia - "I want to explore selling it, but ... I will do it next week.". Then there are also the people who own more than one copy, for various reasons; investment, a reader copy and a pristine "show" copy; etcetera. These people reduce the number of people who are actually potentially active in the market for any given comic. So for many comics, at any time, only a few thousand, a few hundred or even a few dozen willing and active buyers and sellers make the market. Or to put it another way, at any given time, very small numbers of willing and active buyers and sellers at and around the FMV - the tip of the comics world spear - decide the direction of the FMV for that comic. The interesting question then may be what effect any price development may have on the big cloud of not-yet willing and active buyers and sellers. In how far will they become willing and active buyers or sellers when the price moves? Just wildly speculating here, but I suspect that with modern comics that big cloud of not-yet willing and active buyers and sellers is usually way more active and open to buying and/ or selling when the FMV moves than with older comics.
The Akkadian Empire is often called the world’s first empire. The empire united Akkadian and Sumerian speakers under one rule and their civilization stretched across Mesopotamia, the Levant, and Anatolia (modern-day Iraq, Syria, and Turkey). The Akkadians regularly traded with the nearby Indus Valley Civilization. The Sumerians and Akkadians had a surplus of agricultural products, which they traded for metal ores, timber, and building stone. The people of the Akkadian Empire were skilled craftsman and made a number of beautifully carved seals and cast metal statues. One such statue depicts a writer’s room in which Todd McFarlane is brainstorming ideas for the Spawn movie script.
I really enjoy your insight. I sold a majority of my marvel comics last year around this time. Weird DC was hard to sell. 15 long boxes. A culmination of 35 years in collecting. Towards the end, I was giving away some of my stuff. All in All, 6 months of wheeling and dealing and shipping and packing. I still have comics I cherish but they are all independents. I narrowed it down to 3 short boxes. Wishful thinking selling last year or maybe my kids were not interested in my hobby that led me to move on from chasing the FOMO comic. The End Game movie sold it for me literally. This might be the era where the collectors in the 90's has passed the torch to the new generation. It seems the day has gone bye in doodling inside school notebooks our favorite superheroes to the advent of gamers and influencers or whatever # movement we are in. I hope Marvel and DC audiences now doesn't forget what comic books really did for us 90's kids. The right to be a super-hero in our own eyes and to those around us.
That Fallout fell out. 😆 I would like to know the data on all these high priced books that were bought with plastic and how many credit card holders have defaulted on them since the plandemic.
I only buy what I’m reading now and that’s it and that’s the problem now as well. Not enough people reading them anymore they weren’t meant to be investments. If I buy something new and it sucks I don’t buy it again. So true comic fans are still in control of popularity in a way. To many folks just buying up everything new as investors are creating higher print runs. And way to many graded books hopefully raw copies get popular again if these folks keep loosing money.
The whole Grizzly Adams look is very interesting. I think UF4 will hover around 2K in the coming years. I don't think the 4~5K range unless something crazy happens like half the books spontaneously combust...😵, Spawn 1...my LCS has a huge tightly packed long box of Spawn 1 to send in to CGC...all look like 9.8 with maybe some 9.9 in there. I would not buy this book even if Todd McFarlane announced that Spawn is now part of the MCU fighting alongside Moon Knight, Blade, Thor and others to right the wrongs of Kang! QQ, are the #'s for FF48 actual? I've seen higher paid prices on the many none reporting auctions like Comic Link, etc.. Don't get me wrong, if folks are letting them go for cheap(er) because their information if flawed...I am going to pick up more.
I Got Fallout 4 direct edition when it came out at my LCS just before i took a long break from collecting. Forgot I even had it. And now I’m back into comics again. Getting it pressed and graded soon 😎😎 Nice video 😎🤟🤟
Same, I found I'd accidentally bought 2 copies (by accident) - never read them and they got stored away. They both must be 9.6/9.8. Probably will just sell both raw. 😊
Do you think there will be a uptick on sales prices in 2023 or is it too soon to call it? Right now all high dollar books seem to either have a issue where they don’t sell or they sell very low compared to old sales prices of 2018-2021
Dave,I think we are all better off buying silver and bronze age books but they are so expensive.I am still on the hunt for my grail books TMNT#1, Cerebus #1, Detective Comics #168,AMS#129 and Hulk#181 but they cost thousands and I have even though about selling all my comics to get my 2 of them but I got way to many good books to just give up and I really can't be buying anymore comics cause I been trying to save up money cause I don't trust our government and there have been talks about my job shutting down so I will just have to wait to buy anymore comics.
When is 80k copies considered a high print run? Back in the 90's,after the 8 mil+ copies of X-Men #1,it was pretty common that most books(from the big publishers) printed over 1 mil copies,then in the early 2000's,they dropped off to no more than 500k,or is my info incorrect?
It’s different though. Back in the day they would print 1mil copies of golden age comics. But most didn’t survive or got trashed. How many detective comics 27 are there? That probably had a print run of 500k. But only a handful exist today. The 1990s xmen yes. High print run. But that’s only $100 in 9.8. The problem is all the 80k uf4 are 9.4+. So it’s not like a 80s book that had 500k print run. But only maybe 5k are 9.4 plus
This is well deserved for Ultimate Fallout 4. I knew it was a case of FOMO. 1. There's a ton of them in a 9.8. 2. Miles is one of many Spider-Man Knockoffs. Ben Reily, Kaine, Miguel O'hara, Spider-Woman, Spider-Gwen, Silk. However this book will go up when Miles is casted for a live movie. Its only a matter of time. I doubt the MCU will re-cast Peter Parker
It was the animated movie that caused the UF4 ti skyrocket. Non comicbook people were buying UF4 after the movie. IF you think the sequel ofthe animated will be good, now it the time to buy.
None of those other spider verse characters resonate or resonated with children. Miles Morales merchandise and video game is making too much money for him not to be a mainstay. UF4 will be fine short term and long term. Miles popularity in gaming 6.5 million copies sold within an 8 month period of PlayStation’s spider man miles morales. It’s not going to take long before the residual fandom continue to spill over into comics even more as these kids age with Miles.
@@roshawnrobinson1999 non comicbook people do not buy comics. You mean new people to comic book hobby brought UF4. And they will get burned again the only thing Miles got going for him is he is afro Hispanic. Everyone over the age of 15 never grew up with Miles regardless of race. This book will be a long time hold but with that print run will be a x force #1 type of thing. We have yet to see Static Shock in a live movie. That's telling you something.
@@darkmanflex84 You hit some good points. Peter Parker will always be Spider-Man for my generation but Miles caters to another. Like I said, I'm nearly its only a matter of time before he makes it to the livescreen
"this book will go up WHEN Miles is casted for a live movie! "WHEN"??? it's "IF"... BIG f*ng difference. He will stay in his cartoon-land with his pet-piggy 🙂
Could it be that every collector that wanted one now has one, and demand has dropped? This recent craze for obnoxious “keys” being created out of nothing has a. A sort of bitcoin feel to it.. These prices are backed by nothing but the idea that a movie will be made.. Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen in the hobby. That particular market is not determined by time, history and rarity…. It’s determined by the musings of people like Taika Waititi, some random. eBay seller, and a phone app that reports his sale. Basing how I allocate my sweat equity based resources on such variables is…. 🤔 Insanity.. 😂
Ppl stop sending books that are not 60 years old or older. Me and real collectors won't but a slabed comic because it's graded. I have eyes.and ppl getting 9.8 for new comics is really dum coz first it should be a 9.8, it's new. And I'm not putting up a extra 100 bucks coz u spent 40 to grade and slab when all u had to do is bag and board it and leave it in a box for 20 years!
@@chrisbooth478 Getting it signed by Nick Spencer as we speak. Wish they did the CGC signings faster cause Clayton Crain doing a signing now as well. Im not gonna get it back in time so its going in the vault haha
@@ThePsps1 see I am in my 30s and I don't even know who those people are. Unless it's the actual movie actor or Stan lee I could careless about signed books. They do look nice with their official slab though. Some people will not touch a signed book.
I’m pretty happy I stayed away from UF4 I think the Spider verse part 2 is coming out in February I think it was November/December originally end of this year I’m hoping speculation market dies off soon I still see listings saying Black cat coming to the MCU and it’s just unlikely Sony missed their chance with Morbius to expand the Spider Universe and I doubt Kraven will do what Morbius didn’t Also I was reading Namor can’t have solo MCU movies cause Universal owns Him which is weird I didn’t know that but do you see Namor books taking a huge drop because of this? We Know how Terrible Universal has been with Hulk and I can’t see Universal dropping plans to make Another Fast and Furious project just to push out a Namor film movies kinda bring attention to the characters if we don’t see Namor again for another 5-6 years will everyone forget or lose interest in him Cause best situation he shows up again in Fantastic Four or if Black Panther Gets a trilogy but I don’t see what more they can do Wakanda already beat him so we know he can’t beat Shuri even though Director Ryan said Namor was strong then Hulk & Thor 😂 💀
I do agree with you almost 100% of the time, that being said… I do have a feeling that Savage Tales #1 will be the “new groot” not too many out there! They made him extremely lovable and just like groot! If you look at Man Thing #1 it keeps going up, the MCU will keep using him and and just a few sales going down doesn’t mean that much.
tbh i think is a good time to grab some UF4 9.8 rit now w8 less than a yr the book will pop back up since the movie is going to comic out and we all know the marketing on that movie is going to be insane. that and Miles is currently the only mordern day post 2000 era superhero that has some staying power. (in comparison with other mordern supers like the young avengers miles is Tire 1 at least.
you are correct. The problem is comic book people don't understand they are the minority. UF4 sells to non comic book people. It's been quiet in terms of social media on animated movie news. Sony's Spider-man animated movie is rated the highest comic book movie on rotten tomatoes amoung critics and regular audience. It won an academy award for best picture something that no MCU film has done. What evidence comic book think the sequels will be bad?
The age group who cares about Miles cant afford a candy bar, not to mention uf4 has an ugly cover and Miles isnt the 1st Spidey, and high print run, and tons of high grade copies thanks to cgc. As soon as we see Miles on the big screen all these people who bought UF4 and dont care about Miles will try and cash in and the market will be sarurated and the price will bomb. No thanks!
Peter Parker = Spider-Man period. Wish the house of former ideas would get original once again and stop relying on the multiverse to make multiple characters of the original. It may be cool to some for a while but there’s no staying power. Sorry … there may be a lot of cover bands for a specific rock band but I will always 10 times out of 10 purchase the original music.
I think that as more movies are made with Miles Morales, more people will jump on board and want that 9.8 as a keepsake or collectable or as a long term investment. So I think 80,000 is a relatively small amount considering not all will be 9.8s.
I just don't think Mike's Morales has the staying power to carry multiple movies. He's only ever going to be a multiverse play or supporting character. Peter Parker is who everyone knows as Spider-man. Always will be.
Miles is one of the only post 2000 characters who has staying power. These kids nowadays absolutely love Miles Morales and that’s who will buy his stuff long term. That’s who’s dragging their parents to watch his movies and buy his video games and funko pops. Us older folks love Peter Parker, these kids in grade school consider Miles their Spider-Man . UF4 will hit its bottom soon enough but unlike these other books, 2021 sell prices will not be the ceiling for this book.
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I'm not usually the "told you so" type.. but UFO4 is one I'm happy to see drop after so many so-called comic "experts' said to hold at 4k 🤣 So many copies... there are still dealers out there with boxes and boxes of uncirculated copies.
I agree and also I think anybody who wants that book already has it… there was gonna be no flood of new fans dropping cash on comic books.. they were sold a pipe dream
I'm with you. There are so many copies of this book. Way overvalued.
@@jacobbornowsky4013 but it's 'the Amazing Fantasy #15 of our generation!!!' 🤣 What a joke - AF15 didn't have whole boxes being shipped down to CGC for encasement back in the 60's! and anyone who was around in the 90's heard the same thing about X-Men #1, Death of Superman and every #1 issued by Image.
Yes sir this is not a book to buy at 9.8… Too many lemonade stands on the block and every stand wants to sell the juice for 3-4K..
I’m happy I hated when his first appearance was as much or higher then silver age debuts
I've thought for awhile that UFO4 should be no more than a $500 book given the print run and other price comparable silver age spidey books.
As a dealer it must be a priority to roll out inventory asap before prices drop even more. Dealers must be hurting big time. How many collectors are bailing out. I have never seen so many books for sale, some that would rarely come to market ! People expect to pay 10% less than last sale creating a vicious cycle that has prices dropping fast. That FF48 example is scary. Other big key have dropped in half as well... I don't know if the market will be as strong post recession and if there is a world crisis, comics won't be a priority even for avid colectors... It doesn't help that the MCU is bombing. Wakanda forever put you to slept.... Btw great video as always. Financial fridays please!
Economy is bad. People are hurting. Comics are quick liquid assets.
@@JcLazy1 well wakanda's box office worldwide is $675,570,596 so that ain't bad.
I knew Mikes Morales first appearance would drop. Bunch of weirdos were paying thousands dollars for a character whos comic has been canceled and relaunched at least 3 times.
The character has no real relevance in its actual source material. Which is comics. Then Marvel beat Miles like a dead horse with that What If comic series.
Peter Parker is spider-man. Always has been and always will be. Miles Morales is a flash in the pan. Just another one of the Spider-Man clones in this so-called Spider-Man universe. If you're going to buy a Spider-Man first appearance there's only one book to get and that's af15
I prefer the spin off characters like Silk or Black Cat to the replacement characters.
Completely agree into the spiderverse did bring him to reliance but he is no Peter Parker
Man o man, I'm sooo glad I got most of these books years and years ago and paid minimal or cover price (paid $40 for UF4). People seriously lost their money during the so-called comic boom. Sucks to be them. As always Dave, thanks for the updates.
I honestly like the 2nd print of UF4 way better plus the census is way less too. It blows my mind it’s so much cheaper.
Census is less cause 85% of people want the 1st print
Think it's time to face the music, we're all taking a loss on almost all of the books we bought last year, it's just aswell I actually love comic books n it was just a bonus if they went up or down
Getting deals now but overpaid in 2021.
@@thecorporatelawgroup7093 Held over a barrel last year mate, be nice to be able to buy n eat at the same time this year lol
@@deathmetalmadness4642 Amen! LOL
Nice to see that Savage Tales 1 dropping. I want one but I am waiting until I can get one at an acceptable price.
Just found 2 mint first print unread copies of 1st Miles that i bought at retail for 3.99!!!
My backllogue was always ridiculous so they were in storage all this time.
They may have fallen in price, but it's the book that has grown in price the most.
That i purchased new.
I have Spiey 300, but have read it a few times over the years and i never boarded comics in my early buying new off the shelf.
When people are fearful, be greedy" - Warren Buffett
Hi David, you make an intriguing remark about UF4: you say that the print run is 80.000, and so, for this comic to rise, you need 80.000 people willing to spend say 1.000 dollar on it. You are of course right: by holding on to one's copy of UF4, one IS choosing to spend 1.000 dollar on it.
But we are dealing here with highly imperfect markets (which is a main reason why I like the comics market so much!).
I would guess that for just about any comic, at any given time, most copies will continue be held by their owners and not brought to market. This can be for various reasons: some owners simply see their copy as part of their private collection; some are not aware of its value; some are holding on to it for longer-term speculation; some (probably many!) simply suffer from inertia - "I want to explore selling it, but ... I will do it next week.".
Then there are also the people who own more than one copy, for various reasons; investment, a reader copy and a pristine "show" copy; etcetera. These people reduce the number of people who are actually potentially active in the market for any given comic.
So for many comics, at any time, only a few thousand, a few hundred or even a few dozen willing and active buyers and sellers make the market. Or to put it another way, at any given time, very small numbers of willing and active buyers and sellers at and around the FMV - the tip of the comics world spear - decide the direction of the FMV for that comic.
The interesting question then may be what effect any price development may have on the big cloud of not-yet willing and active buyers and sellers. In how far will they become willing and active buyers or sellers when the price moves?
Just wildly speculating here, but I suspect that with modern comics that big cloud of not-yet willing and active buyers and sellers is usually way more active and open to buying and/ or selling when the FMV moves than with older comics.
I see a lot of eBay auctions on several keys going lower than the typical sale price. Some for a good amount.
I been cleaning up so much on ebay. I gotta chill out lol.
I don’t remember seeing Spawn1 hit $400 on the regular
AHH! MODERN BOOKS! RUN!!!!!
The Akkadian Empire is often called the world’s first empire. The empire united Akkadian and Sumerian speakers under one rule and their civilization stretched across Mesopotamia, the Levant, and Anatolia (modern-day Iraq, Syria, and Turkey).
The Akkadians regularly traded with the nearby Indus Valley Civilization. The Sumerians and Akkadians had a surplus of agricultural products, which they traded for metal ores, timber, and building stone.
The people of the Akkadian Empire were skilled craftsman and made a number of beautifully carved seals and cast metal statues. One such statue depicts a writer’s room in which Todd McFarlane is brainstorming ideas for the Spawn movie script.
Hahahaha. I knew that spawn script was older than I had originally thought. 😂
Don't give Todd any ideas I can see it now..
AKKADIAN SPAWN
Think the UF4 at $4.5K was a newsie? Can’t imagine anyone forked over that much for a direct.
I really enjoy your insight. I sold a majority of my marvel comics last year around this time. Weird DC was hard to sell. 15 long boxes. A culmination of 35 years in collecting. Towards the end, I was giving away some of my stuff. All in All, 6 months of wheeling and dealing and shipping and packing. I still have comics I cherish but they are all independents. I narrowed it down to 3 short boxes.
Wishful thinking selling last year or maybe my kids were not interested in my hobby that led me to move on from chasing the FOMO comic. The End Game movie sold it for me literally. This might be the era where the collectors in the 90's has passed the torch to the new generation.
It seems the day has gone bye in doodling inside school notebooks our favorite superheroes to the advent of gamers and influencers or whatever # movement we are in.
I hope Marvel and DC audiences now doesn't forget what comic books really did for us 90's kids.
The right to be a super-hero in our own eyes and to those around us.
That Fallout fell out. 😆 I would like to know the data on all these high priced books that were bought with plastic and how many credit card holders have defaulted on them since the plandemic.
I'm glad Spawn 1 is dropping. I've been wanting a 9.8 in my PC but refused to pay almost $500 for one. Good times
I like the 2nd print cover where it shows miles face better then it hiding
I only buy what I’m reading now and that’s it and that’s the problem now as well. Not enough people reading them anymore they weren’t meant to be investments. If I buy something new and it sucks I don’t buy it again. So true comic fans are still in control of popularity in a way. To many folks just buying up everything new as investors are creating higher print runs. And way to many graded books hopefully raw copies get popular again if these folks keep loosing money.
The whole Grizzly Adams look is very interesting. I think UF4 will hover around 2K in the coming years. I don't think the 4~5K range unless something crazy happens like half the books spontaneously combust...😵, Spawn 1...my LCS has a huge tightly packed long box of Spawn 1 to send in to CGC...all look like 9.8 with maybe some 9.9 in there. I would not buy this book even if Todd McFarlane announced that Spawn is now part of the MCU fighting alongside Moon Knight, Blade, Thor and others to right the wrongs of Kang! QQ, are the #'s for FF48 actual? I've seen higher paid prices on the many none reporting auctions like Comic Link, etc.. Don't get me wrong, if folks are letting them go for cheap(er) because their information if flawed...I am going to pick up more.
I dont even care if ultimate fallout 4 is dropping because I remember buying the book for $20 at a comic convention before the pandemic. Yeet
Cost basis is irrelevant for all but tax gain or loss. The prevailing market price is all that matters. Everything else is mental gymnastics.
I Got Fallout 4 direct edition when it came out at my LCS just before i took a long break from collecting. Forgot I even had it. And now I’m back into comics again. Getting it pressed and graded soon 😎😎
Nice video 😎🤟🤟
Same, I found I'd accidentally bought 2 copies (by accident) - never read them and they got stored away. They both must be 9.6/9.8.
Probably will just sell both raw.
😊
Spawn… almost spit my drink out laughing!
Paying $4500 for Ultimate Fallout 4 9.8 is insane. Good luck getting that money back with that modern book.
10 more yrs? when inflation really kicks in. and coke cost 5 dollars a can.
@@papi-sauce if that happens the last thing on your mind will be a comic book or cartoon character.
Spawn will go up and down another 1500 times until that movie comes out in 2050.
WOW!! That black Adam variant TANKED!!!! No variant is safe!!!!
Hey Dave would you do an update on Avengers 4 or WWBN 32? Thank you really like your channel
There is only ONE Spider-Man, and it ain’t Miles or Gwen or whatever character they want to make up.
What he said☝️ ‘Ultimate Fall Out.. more like “Ultimate Fall Down👎 Stick with vintage comics people
“And get off my lawn!”
@@nayahansen lmao 😂
I'm 39 I feel you
I like miles but that book is way overpriced, I had one a 9.8 and sold it as I saw it was dropping, got about 3k
"prices dropping"
Looks around
Same prices they were before: 😶😶😶
Do you think there will be a uptick on sales prices in 2023 or is it too soon to call it?
Right now all high dollar books seem to either have a issue where they don’t sell or they sell very low compared to old sales prices of 2018-2021
Todd McFarlane movie scripts are written on Papyrus and vellum
Dave,I think we are all better off buying silver and bronze age books but they are so expensive.I am still on the hunt for my grail books TMNT#1, Cerebus #1, Detective Comics #168,AMS#129 and Hulk#181 but they cost thousands and I have even though about selling all my comics to get my 2 of them but I got way to many good books to just give up and I really can't be buying anymore comics cause I been trying to save up money cause I don't trust our government and there have been talks about my job shutting down so I will just have to wait to buy anymore comics.
When is 80k copies considered a high print run? Back in the 90's,after the 8 mil+ copies of X-Men #1,it was pretty common that most books(from the big publishers) printed over 1 mil copies,then in the early 2000's,they dropped off to no more than 500k,or is my info incorrect?
It’s different though. Back in the day they would print 1mil copies of golden age comics. But most didn’t survive or got trashed. How many detective comics 27 are there? That probably had a print run of 500k. But only a handful exist today. The 1990s xmen yes. High print run. But that’s only $100 in 9.8. The problem is all the 80k uf4 are 9.4+. So it’s not like a 80s book that had 500k print run. But only maybe 5k are 9.4 plus
dealers are hurting and ergo CGC is so as well....buyers market
Got my Savage Tales 1 8.0 for $800 last week. Not bad.
Second print has a lower print run. maybe thats better.
Bought mine for $336 and sold it for $3k. Glad I got out when I did.
Nice!
There are No modern books that will retain their value long term.
I’d say less then 0.01%. There is just a handful
Loving the beard!
Thanks :)
9.6 Avengers 8 just sold for 21600 that’s a strong sell!
I honestly stick with what I think is cool...first Sabertooth, first Lizard, ECT. Fomo can't do no mo.
If your going to spend THOUSANDS on anything because of Hype or Fomo (🤦♂️). You kinda deserve to lose THOUSANDS.
This is well deserved for Ultimate Fallout 4. I knew it was a case of FOMO. 1. There's a ton of them in a 9.8. 2. Miles is one of many Spider-Man Knockoffs. Ben Reily, Kaine, Miguel O'hara, Spider-Woman, Spider-Gwen, Silk.
However this book will go up when Miles is casted for a live movie. Its only a matter of time. I doubt the MCU will re-cast Peter Parker
It was the animated movie that caused the UF4 ti skyrocket. Non comicbook people were buying UF4 after the movie. IF you think the sequel ofthe animated will be good, now it the time to buy.
None of those other spider verse characters resonate or resonated with children. Miles Morales merchandise and video game is making too much money for him not to be a mainstay. UF4 will be fine short term and long term. Miles popularity in gaming 6.5 million copies sold within an 8 month period of PlayStation’s spider man miles morales. It’s not going to take long before the residual fandom continue to spill over into comics even more as these kids age with Miles.
@@roshawnrobinson1999 non comicbook people do not buy comics. You mean new people to comic book hobby brought UF4. And they will get burned again the only thing Miles got going for him is he is afro Hispanic. Everyone over the age of 15 never grew up with Miles regardless of race. This book will be a long time hold but with that print run will be a x force #1 type of thing. We have yet to see Static Shock in a live movie. That's telling you something.
@@darkmanflex84 You hit some good points. Peter Parker will always be Spider-Man for my generation but Miles caters to another. Like I said, I'm nearly its only a matter of time before he makes it to the livescreen
"this book will go up WHEN Miles is casted for a live movie! "WHEN"??? it's "IF"... BIG f*ng difference. He will stay in his cartoon-land with his pet-piggy 🙂
In 2018 I got my ultimate fallout 4 djurdjevic variant two copy’s. I payed 600$ for two of them Raw.
Wow. That’s a good dealn
I got UF4 raw in the poly bag this summer. Happy to hold it but hurts to see it going down. Not particularly a Miles fan but...seems like a must have
dont feel bad letting my copies go now lol
Todd’s original scripts are buried on Oak Island.
Hahhaha. And it was still unfinished then
Should have sold in 2021
Ultimate Fallout aptly named comic
Would you buy UFO4 today for $800 with signatures 9.8
Still using outliers for clickbait, I see. UF4 was never selling as a FMV for $4500. The highest average peak for that book sat around $3200.
Could it be that every collector that wanted one now has one, and demand has dropped? This recent craze for obnoxious “keys” being created out of nothing has a. A sort of bitcoin feel to it..
These prices are backed by nothing but the idea that a movie will be made.. Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen in the hobby. That particular market is not determined by time, history and rarity…. It’s determined by the musings of people like Taika Waititi, some random.
eBay seller, and a phone
app that reports his sale. Basing how I allocate my sweat equity based resources on such variables is…. 🤔
Insanity.. 😂
What app/website do you use to find price sales data? Iv just been using eBay “Sold” to find comps, but it doesn’t seem too accurate.
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Ppl stop sending books that are not 60 years old or older. Me and real collectors won't but a slabed comic because it's graded. I have eyes.and ppl getting 9.8 for new comics is really dum coz first it should be a 9.8, it's new. And I'm not putting up a extra 100 bucks coz u spent 40 to grade and slab when all u had to do is bag and board it and leave it in a box for 20 years!
Got UF4 for 2500 then it dropped lol getting it signed 9.8 should definitely help get my money back gonna hold for signings
Maybe get it signed by the actor who plays Miles in live action that would be cool!
@@chrisbooth478 Getting it signed by Nick Spencer as we speak. Wish they did the CGC signings faster cause Clayton Crain doing a signing now as well. Im not gonna get it back in time so its going in the vault haha
@@ThePsps1 Neither Clayton or Spencer had anything to do with the creation of Miles. Bendis or Pichelli are the ones that increase the value.
@@roshawnrobinson1999 trying to get everyone involved to sign it
@@ThePsps1 see I am in my 30s and I don't even know who those people are. Unless it's the actual movie actor or Stan lee I could careless about signed books. They do look nice with their official slab though. Some people will not touch a signed book.
Ultimate Falldown
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I’m pretty happy I stayed away from UF4 I think the Spider verse part 2 is coming out in February I think it was November/December originally end of this year
I’m hoping speculation market dies off soon I still see listings saying Black cat coming to the MCU and it’s just unlikely Sony missed their chance with Morbius to expand the Spider Universe and I doubt Kraven will do what Morbius didn’t
Also I was reading Namor can’t have solo MCU movies cause Universal owns Him which is weird I didn’t know that but do you see Namor books taking a huge drop because of this?
We Know how Terrible Universal has been with Hulk and I can’t see Universal dropping plans to make Another Fast and Furious project just to push out a Namor film movies kinda bring attention to the characters if we don’t see Namor again for another 5-6 years will everyone forget or lose interest in him
Cause best situation he shows up again in Fantastic Four or if Black Panther Gets a trilogy but I don’t see what more they can do Wakanda already beat him so we know he can’t beat Shuri even though Director Ryan said Namor was strong then Hulk & Thor 😂 💀
I do agree with you almost 100% of the time, that being said… I do have a feeling that Savage Tales #1 will be the “new groot” not too many out there! They made him extremely lovable and just like groot! If you look at Man Thing #1 it keeps going up, the MCU will keep using him and and just a few sales going down doesn’t mean that much.
tbh i think is a good time to grab some UF4 9.8 rit now w8 less than a yr the book will pop back up since the movie is going to comic out and we all know the marketing on that movie is going to be insane. that and Miles is currently the only mordern day post 2000 era superhero that has some staying power. (in comparison with other mordern supers like the young avengers miles is Tire 1 at least.
you are correct. The problem is comic book people don't understand they are the minority. UF4 sells to non comic book people. It's been quiet in terms of social media on animated movie news.
Sony's Spider-man animated movie is rated the highest comic book movie on rotten tomatoes amoung critics and regular audience. It won an academy award for best picture something that no MCU film has done.
What evidence comic book think the sequels will be bad?
@@roshawnrobinson1999 really none comic pplz willing to drop 1-2k on a book? That’s actually good news
The age group who cares about Miles cant afford a candy bar, not to mention uf4 has an ugly cover and Miles isnt the 1st Spidey, and high print run, and tons of high grade copies thanks to cgc. As soon as we see Miles on the big screen all these people who bought UF4 and dont care about Miles will try and cash in and the market will be sarurated and the price will bomb. No thanks!
Peter Parker = Spider-Man period. Wish the house of former ideas would get original once again and stop relying on the multiverse to make multiple characters of the original. It may be cool to some for a while but there’s no staying power. Sorry … there may be a lot of cover bands for a specific rock band but I will always 10 times out of 10 purchase the original music.
That’s an interesting take. Yes cover bands are great. But they are just that. Copying the original
I think that as more movies are made with Miles Morales, more people will jump on board and want that 9.8 as a keepsake or collectable or as a long term investment. So I think 80,000 is a relatively small amount considering not all will be 9.8s.
I just don't think Mike's Morales has the staying power to carry multiple movies. He's only ever going to be a multiverse play or supporting character. Peter Parker is who everyone knows as Spider-man. Always will be.
Miles is one of the only post 2000 characters who has staying power. These kids nowadays absolutely love Miles Morales and that’s who will buy his stuff long term. That’s who’s dragging their parents to watch his movies and buy his video games and funko pops. Us older folks love Peter Parker, these kids in grade school consider Miles their Spider-Man . UF4 will hit its bottom soon enough but unlike these other books, 2021 sell prices will not be the ceiling for this book.
80,000 is not a huge print run.
It is when it comes to modern books because most are kept in good condition. So you have to think about 50% or more are gonna be 9.4+
@@ComicBookInvestments that and my LCS owner recently "found" a short box full of it in his storage. bout 100+ copies or so. all polybaged
14000+ graded copies on cgc 12,000 above 9.0
@@JcLazy1 there are 4038 copies of cgc 9.8 to be exact haha 4k plus pplz willing to throw 4-5k on this book in the future...maybe...
Fallout 4 is way overpriced and over hyped
Still waiting for Fantastic Four #1 to 100 to have a severe price drop... oh well, FF #48 is down....
Ultimate fallout..and FF...¿¿°°g ease°°good investments..with hu- more. Spawn script.