The Rogues Tavern (1936) [Horror] [Mystery]
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- The Rogues Tavern is a 1936 American film directed by Robert F. Hill about a mad killer is on the loose in a hotel on a dark, gloomy night.
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Directed by Robert F. Hill, produced by Sam Katzman, written by Al Martin (original screenplay), starring Wallace Ford as Jimmy Kelly, Barbara Pepper as Marjorie Burns, Joan Woodbury as Gloria Robloff, Clara Kimball Young as Mrs. Jamison, Jack Mulhall as Bill, John Elliott as Mr. Jamison, Earl Dwire as Morgan, John Cowell as Hughes, Vincent Dennis as Bert, Arthur Loft as Wentworth, Ivo Henderson as Harrison, Ed Cassidy as Mason and Silver Wolf as Silver Wolf.
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Source: "The Rogues Tavern" Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.. 27 February 2012. Web. 31 August 2012. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rogu....
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Here are the 3 leading actresses:
- Barbara Pepper, played the blonde Marjorie Burns. She was a Ziegfeld girl and was lifelong friends with Lucille Ball. She lost her husband and had to raise her sons by herself, which put serious stress on her causing her to become an alcoholic and overweight. She played Doris Ziffel on Green Acres, and died of a heart attack in 1969 before the TV series ended. She was 54.
- Joan Woodbury played the hot card reader. She was a premiere ballerina before staring in dozens of movies over a 20+ year timeframe. She died of TB at age 73 in 1989.
- Clara Kimball Young, played Mrs. Jamison, the lady behind the front desk. She was a Hollywood and women's activist, dying in 1960 at age 70.
Appreciate the info, Dwight. Always fascinating to meet the people behind the characters.
Joan Woodbury is erotic
Especially in the age of film at this period of time
Thank you Doc. I love when people fill in the blanks. Joan was amazing! 🌹
Woodbury showcased her dancing talent in an adagio routine in the Charlie Chan film 'Charlie Chan Goes To Broadway'.
Do you like fat sausage for dinnnnner
I love these types of movies where a group of people are all stuck together trying to figure out who the killer is. This one reminds me of those movies called "The Ninth Guest" and "Then There Were None".
This is a genre called "old dark house"-- a big house, several people, stormy night and a murderer. The Black Raven, Fog Island, The Old Dark House (1932) are more examples. The animation series Scooby Doo used the same premise. The Kennel Club Murders is good, too, among many more. Fun!
@@SBCBears oh wow, yes! It is like the Old Dark House. I love love love that movie. I love all those old movies. It's funny you mentioned the Old Dark House cause I watched the Rouges Tavern and later that night I watched the Old Dark House. I've probably seen it like a 1000 times. Lol
Thank you very much for pointing me to " The Ninth Guest" . I just watched it, enjoyed it immensely.
Seeing as I have seen all the Charlie Chan, Mr. Wong, Bulldog Drummond, Thin Man and other movies if this genre, I was giving up hope that there were still good movies left! Seriously, thanks for mentioning "The ninth Guest"
@@willg4802 oh you're welcome. That's so cool. I'm glad you liked it. I love all those old movies.
@@willg4802 yeah I also like the Mr. Wong movies too
The detective and his fiancée were hilarious together! I wonder if they did more movies together. Their chemistry was great!
that's what I was thinking they were a good pair
"Are you married?" "No, I was born this way." Perfect.
I wish this channel was still putting up movies. I love these old black and white atmospheric pieces.
Thank you for uploading FORALL the people who love The Old Classics! God Bless you and your family in these scary time we're all going threw .❤️🙏🏽🇨🇦
Again an unusual detective story with an unexpected ending. The lack of music gives the movie a spooky flair. I enjoyed it. Thanks.
Share Greats Yeah, Movies then didn’t use music as much to set the tone of the scenes as they use today. I appreciate the difference and love these older movies. Nice to watch thes movies while we’re confined home.
Enjoying this one.
Little Jimmy fartwhistle
Another good example is "The Asphalt Jungle" which is a theft-gone-wrong movie from 1950. The only music in the entire movie is in the intro title, one scene, and the end credits. It's fitting, though.
Love the atmosphere in these old movies. Thanks for uploading!
Me too, thanks.
I bet these films were very popular at a night out to the theater back in the 1930s, these mysteries were very interesting and kept the audiences on their toes. From what I understand, these types of films, and all of those Busby Berkeley musicals were some of the most popular films for film audiences back in those days
No, not this one.
I love the old furniture
Hi, can you not get enough of top quality camp? I watched it over 40 times already. Love when the hand backs up to get back out after trying to kill ms. Korny. Such movements. Its campy but I just love it, so curious & well done. Without old movies in Hollywoodland there'd be nothing but a avocados, oranges, grapefruit + + + + + much much more. So without the beginning of Hollywoodland, theyr'd be no Hollywood. They built this entire city with fake bats and streaks, footprints etc. They made it and now Hollywood is dead. I worked for 18 years in Mystery Land.. 1% talent is out there. Sorry & I know them mostly all (the great ones) and there is nothing like them.
Soon we will be better than ever. Hopefully we learned a lot. f.A.c
16:09
"What's that?!"
"Let's find out!!"
*scramble to put on vests and jackets*
Silver Wolf is a gorgeous dog.
Barbara Pepper was one of my favorites on "Green Acres." She looks quite different in this movie, but I recognized her voice and snappy comebacks at once. I can see why Lucille Ball wanted her to play Ethel Mertz.
I think she looks like Sally Struthers.
@@bunnyfoofoo9695 THAT'S who she reminded me of, Sally Struthers. thanks. 👍👍
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@@sigmondjones4597 What does that mean?
Vivian Vance did an excellent job
simply wonderful. The 2 leads are charming and had loads of chemistry together. Like a poor man's Nick and Nora Charles
Great for a rainy afternoon! Thank you!
I like the shot showing the couple from inside the fireplace.
Yeah, I caught that too. I thought it was so neat. Very creative thinking on their part.
There is a fascinating discussion on this. Watch the 'DePalma and Scorsese on Welles and Hitchcock - The Dick Cavett Show.' At 2:45 they discuss the fireplace shots.
“I hate mysteries, why I don’t even eat hash” What an old timey line.😅 @ 24:02
I read your comment at the exact same time Barbara pepper read that line. Couldn’t believe it.
loved this old film, thanks for posting. I especially love the crackling sound these old films make.
You too? So glad I'm not the only one who thought that. Much prefer that, over added music. It has a sense of a calming, sit-back-and-relax kinda mood setting. Plus it adds to the mystery mystique of the story plot to it as well.
I agree. Same with old records. Just seems more authentic.
Uh, the dog appears at a second floor window? Used a ladder? Great movie.
"Say, what do you think I'm having, a picnic?"
Phenomenally sassy line.
There's nothing like an old black and white movie to watch in bed on a Saturday afternoon.
Thank you, Timeless, for posting this great old movie for us!!
They sure don't make taverns like that, anymore.
I wonder if the production company hired "Mrs. Jamieson" for her look and general acting ability--or strictly for that wonderful mad laugh! Ty for posting.
“Can somebody fix the lights”? No one thought to turn the switch back on.
No. Let's go replace the fuse first. No circuit breaker? Lot of homes in 1936 still didn't have electricity. Love it. Great stuff.
Silver Wolf (the dog) was outstanding.
These Classics are really cool ! Love the cars , clothes furniture . Acting seems different also ? Thank you . 🎭
I like some of those old cars
Thanks for posting this. I saw it years ago and have been wanting to see it again.
Love the oldies... very entertaining:)) I am going to watch some more tomorrow. Thanks!
Detective"I'm travelling incognito."
Handyman" I thought you came here in a bus."
😂
Such a good movie! Loved it
great line to close the opening scene: "I was born this way."
I'm delighted to see some rudimental but curious traveling & panning shots
I always liked this movie. Love the Red Rock Tavern. Love Joan Woodbury, she has a great sinister beauty. John Elliot and Earl Dwire did a lot of Westerns.
In the 1930s, many hotels didn't allow unmarried couples to share a room and would refuse to allow it without seeing a marriage license. Even though the flapper age in the roaring twenties began to see more couples having sex without marriage, things were still a long way from how they are today and only certain style brothels allowed that flapper style mingling. Many hotels were still respectable and refused unmarried couples to share a room. And many couples still saved sex til marriage
A couple of 1930s experts …in 2021
Save sex till marriage? You make sex sound like a luscious piece of pie, that you'd save until dessert. Surely sex isn't that good -- is it?
But their refusal of a room was based on the husband's subtle head shake and it was meant to keep an innocent couple out of the situation. At the time, we could interpret it to mean don't let them have a room based on marital status, but it bothered me. It also didn't fit in if he was the murderer. But it fit perfectly when seen in the light of him telling her not to involve the young couple.
I really enjoyed this movie, Thanks for posting.
A great movie!! Thanks,for showing it!!
Back then, they really did share beds with total strangers in hotel rooms. I guess people were a lot more trustworthy.
These were some types of films I watch before there was Saturday cartoons. A good fun film to watch.
I was hoping Scooby- Doo and the gang would drop in.and solve this baffeling mystery.
Wallace Ford, always a pleasure 👍🔥 fun film to watch. Thanks for the upload
Thank you for all your movie posts!!
Excellent movie the old ones are always the best ones thank you.
Excellent.. Saw this Movie many years ago.. Glad to re visit... Classic....
Fantastic movie, I really enjoyed it. Thank you
Not a bad old Movie.
Thoroughly enjoyed it !
i'm travelling incognito.....I thought you came in a bus! classic!!
..Really Love, & Live for these older movies, tho', wasn't around when they were made. This is def' a fav'. ((Always liked W.Ford.) I especially dig the 30-40's Mystery/Noir/Horror.., Everything about 'em just takes me away..!!♡ Don't get me wrong, I'll ALWAYS love a good movie, but nothing these days holds a candle to these older ones, for me anyway. (Holds true for a few things actually.. ;-) ~Peace
You have excellent skills.Liked your take on the old movies.You have a unique way with words.
Count me in too with all that you said, dzyanist. These were a different people to what we are now.
Also love the music from that era.
I agree. I was born in 1980 and have developed a deep love and appreciation for these older films.
@Marrowbones Likely so, sadly. Well at least the youngin's can view television and movies from the era, and by this come to have some fair ideas about what it was like, tho admittedly it is a far cry from having actually lived through the Forties, theFifties and Sixties+. I am certainly glad I did, and remember-still.
For a BLAST that will LAST from the silent PAST, do see this trailer and be sure your speakers are turned up for maximum impact: th-cam.com/video/t-U-Qai6RFA/w-d-xo.html
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If the detective Jimmy spoke to me the way he speaks to his fiancee, he'd be minus one fiancee.
Some of the dialogue is very dated. Just like the sleeping arrangements. The boyfriend and girlfriend would be in the same room now. And the thought of those guys sleeping together for just sleep, makes no sense today.
The death scene at about the 8-minute mark is perhaps the silliest acting save for a Bugs Bunny cartoon.
If a review for some piece of Disney / Marvel drivel requires 832 spoiler alerts before you post it, surely even these old creakers are worthy of a spoiler alert. And even though Bugs Bunny may be a self-asserting stinker at times, I'm sure even he would tell you that.
good old movies still enjoy watching them today you wont see movies like these today thanks
That’s Mrs. Ziffel alright. The mannerisms give her away. Such a sad life she had. May she Rest in Peace.
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This is a great movie.
It's a documentary
@@whirledpeas3477 LoL😂
"Say, this is thrilling!" lol. Reminds me a bit of The Black Cat. Interesting(?) lack of music. Of course, there are many films including And Then There Were None to The House of Fear w/Rathbone as Holmes in this popular genre (guests gathered in a large domicile nervously determining the killer) & this is great! Thanks!
The dialogue in the flick is hilarious. :D
Wallace Ford also played as Old Pa in A Patch of Blue. Thats a pretty long career. In my opinion the pretty blonde looks like Sally Struthers in All in the Family. Just saying......
EXACTLY!!!! I thought that through the whole movie. She even sounds like her in some scenes.
Wally Ford was in just about everything, including not a few classics. Skyscraper Souls, Freaks, The Informer, Blues in the Night, Black Angel, Shadow of a Doubt, etc. He is always worth watching.
At least you didn't say Edith Bunker !! XD
I enjoyed this, but considering the production quality of this film, it's hard to believe that Gone with the Wind was released just three years later.
probably a less funded flick and it looks like a play - I like the crude simplicity - movie has to stand on its own - no flashy film work
This wasn't an MGM film...in fact, it wasn't made by any of the major studios at the time, so they probably had a very small budget to work with.
I enjoyed that very much! Even though I've seen many old movies in my life I had not seen this one.
Very entertaining movie--lots of fun!
How come everytime I watch one of these old black & white movies from the 30's, I'm just waiting for Moe, Larry and Curly to pop out anytime!!🤣🤣🤣
MAGNIFICENT FILM I enjoyed this like most ThAnks!!!✌👊
Fun and witty dialog! Enjoying very much. Now back to see whodunit...
Chaz DeSimone There all in the same room, but he is searching the same people, obviously its not the same group.
Barbara Pepper was a great friend of Lucille Ball and was considered for the role of Ethel Mertz.
A group of people reading lines between each other.
I enjoyed watching this, while keeping in mind the time it was made in, films being very innocent in those years, and no special effects, so it was entertaining and charming, as these old films usually are.
Wallace Ford is better remembered for his portrayal of George, in the 1937 play "Of Mice and Men".
And Barbara Pepper was gorgeous.
***** No I refer to the play.
Before the film came out in 1939, "Of Mice and Men" was a Broadway stage production, which Steinbeck wrote himself.
It opened the same year the book was released.
They were heavily censored by those who wanted them to be innocent. Pre-Code is very different.
46:52 'Jimmy I must see you'
'Well take a good look!'
Love this movie!!Thank you!!!
What a neat movie. Thank you.
Feels like Earl Derr Biggers'," murder at Baldpate" the remote hotel with unsavory characters.
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Better than damn near anything today. No comparison.
Very watchable.
Just dawned on me that no musical score plays to dramatize or satirize the movie. When no one is talking or the action slows, that's when I noticed.
Don't ask me why but I love that snapping and crackling {like a burning log in a fireplace} thru out the film ... there's something comforting about it, in place of no music ... peaceful
GaslitWorld f. Melissa B ...probably one of the best features of movies of that era .
That's one reason why I love to watch old films. Not for "thrilling suspense," but... Just a story. I first paid attention to it in "The Asphalt Jungle," which only has music in the intro and end, and _one_ jukebox scene, when the old thief gives some coins to some teenagers for the jukebox, and (even _if_ it was for a selfish reason) he lightens up _their_ night a bit before he's arrested.
The whole movie just feels... Dead in a way, except for the one little jukebox scene. _You get nothing, nothing but to know how badly it ends for all of those involved in the robbery._
Thank you for sharing you have a wonderful channel ! 🎉❤
Joan Woodbury (as Gloria Robloff) is show-stopping gorgeous in this. I'm only watching it because she's in it. She's just 21 in this film, looks maybe 20. At the time of her death in 1989 at 73 she was worth about $700,000; in 2019 that would be worth about $1,500,000 (million).
I'm only ten minutes in and I'm hooked.
That place surely is nice for a tavern. More like an inn.
Watching this movie is really nice and Language is Perfect.
This is a fun and campy "who done it" !!
Another great campy/ funny whodunnit is One Body Too Many
Is there an academy award for maniacal laugh?
Wow, Barbara Pepper was Doris Ziffel in Green Acres. She was quite pretty when she was this young.
And she was an extra without credit tapping on piano with Stanley Halloway (Eliza 's father) in Get me to church on time scene....u are only one who still remember her here... Doris Ziffle was her memorably last role...great!!
Sorry! Many below also talked about her 4 years ago !!!..Oops!!!!
Yes, I didn’t realize it either when I made my post. I remembered her name from Green Acres and thought she was perfect for the role. She passed away quite young, in fact during the run of Green Acres. She was cool!
@@2nostromo that is true 😂
@@2nostromo Arnold supplied the Bacon for the ziffels friends at a later gathering.
They had me hooked the minute I heard that sinister wind blowing through the opening scene at the tavern. Let me curl up under my midnight bedcovers before the murderer shows up...
Thanks for the upload 👍 !!
Really a lot of fun right up until the surprise ending.
Entertaining, and atmospheric. My dog Buck thinks Silver Wolf is almost on par with other 30s icons such as Asta and should have a pawprint in the Walk of Fame...
Sorry that is Pawprint!
Clara Kimball Young was great as Mrs. Jamison - what a switch from hotel manager to killer! She was positively creepy!
Oy, spoiler alerts please people!
Barbara Pepper looks exactly like Sally Struthers when she was in All In the Family 😄
Thank. *you* 😎 🎥 gotta luv these old ones 😀
Thanks for posting. Lots of fun. Dated dialogue but entertaining. Interesting to watch with no music soundtrack and camera angles are great. No the butler didn't do it, maybe a hand puppet?
It's hard to believe that Barbara Pepper is the same actress who played Doris Ziffel on Green Acres
Time wasn't kind to her for sure!
William Bevins I see the resemblance , and she did play a character on Green Acres as a farmers wife , not a glamorous role .
she can also be seen in the King Vidor film "Our Daily Bread" from 1933
And she was tapping on piano as an extra without credit with Eliza 's father in My Fair Lady...during her last role on TV show Petticoat Junction and popular Green Acres.All good jobs.. .She supposedly deserved some awards,in my opinion.
@@matta3968 But we and many people around the world can be still remember a funny Doris Ziffel though just a bit part...
12:18 “how did we get from there to “you can sleep with me?” Even the guy at 12:34 didn’t sound convinced.
Geez, I don’t recall a movie where guys keep volunteering their rooms to other men. Lol
exactly good old movie I still watch them today wont see movies like theses today
The couple who's getting married and say that they can't share a room because they're not married yet, that's probably just thrown in there because it's a post-code film. I'm sure that in real life 1930s, there were engaged but not married yet couples who shared hotel rooms, even if the rooms had two beds and they slept in their own beds.
Can't agree with you. Even architect Frank Lloyd Wright was prosecuted for the Mann Act (interstate transport for immoral purpose) in the 1920s. One of the jokes in The Awful Truth (1937) involves the married couple played by Irene Dunne and Cary Grant recounting a near disaster when they were unable to locate their marriage certificate when checking into a hotel.
@@evelynwaugh4053 Yeah, I've seen that, they would've gotten into trouble if caught sharing a hotel room without proof of marriage. Respectable hotels still followed those ways, the Mann act, in the 1930s. But there were some couples who didn't follow the act. What about the flapper girls in the 20s? They didn't all wait for marriage to sleep with someone.
@@alvexok5523 No, an illicit liaison would take place at a love nest (as the sensationalist yellow rag journalists would put it), an apartment that the couple kept for that purpose, or even at one of their homes, while a spouse was away. Couples also posed as brother and sister. Even Georgian and Victorian times were pretty spicey, humans have never been a chaste species. We wouldn't have prohibitive laws about sex, if we were. And remember the recent musical 'Chicago', which was (I believe) the 3rd remake of the original based on true `ripped from the headlines' crime of flapper era Chicago.
@@evelynwaugh4053 I wasn't doubting any of that. The last part of my last comment I mentioned how some people didn't follow the rules, including the flappers.
@@alvexok5523 Rule and law breakers give us much grist for the fictional world of film and novels.
I've seen this same scenario play out a hundred times from New England to the Scottish Moor's.
A group of people, all having something in common, none knowing one another. All locked up together in an old creepy house with no way out - of course. One of them murdering each of them,
one at a time. No one knows who the killer is. Everybody is suspected. Were it me, I'd feel better with either some good whiskey, or a good hand-gun.
With all the passage-ways throughout the house, forget sleep, a lot of black coffee would be my only trusted friend. Oh, and I'll make my own - thank you.
molto carino. Semplice, ben recitato, ben diretto, ha colto la giusta suspance.
This was a great movie. The dog didn't get shot and the bad guys got caught. Justices rings out, or was that wedding bells.
love this classic movie
What an incredible collection of uncommon furniture and actresses.
It's movies like this that remind us of just how important sound, lighting, and camera frames and angles are to making a film. By hook, or by crook, they'll sink you quicker than any bad actor will, if you don't get it right......... LOL!!!!! And poor Wallace Ford; a successful Broadway stage actor and lead in many 30's flicks, within a decade, he would put on about fifty pounds, and spend the rest of his life playing bit parts and one-liners. He even played Aunt Bea's old boyfriend, on the Andy Griffith Show.......well, Gaaaaaahlly!
Thanks for the trivia. For some odd ball reason, when I saw Aunt Bea's boyfriend, I kept thinking....I know that face.
The original 1932 The Mummy is a masterpiece of mood lighting and shadows. The scenes in the museum with its sense of danger was palatable.
Hey, did you guy see that? Shifty McShifty didn't call anyone. He held the receiver rest down during his "call". That and his "shifty eyes" as he glanced to the right when he first picked up the phone's receiver.
That’s a fine cup of coffee ms Jamison
Really good !!!
if that girl isn't the spittin' image of Gloria from "All in The Family" I don't know who is.
Believe it or not that girl is Doris Ziffel on Green Acres. Barbara Pepper
Wow. I can’t believe it.
It's uncanny.
I was going to say the same thing!
that's Barbara Pepper,who years later played Doris Ziffel on "Green Acres"