So people recognized the issues with suburban sprawl more than 6 decades ago, yet here we are today, sprawling more than ever and building more car-dependent communities far from jobs & shopping that often don't generate enough tax revenue to pay for their own infrastructure and services.
It's amazing that certain groups recognized the perils of the rapid suburban sprawl that was taking over, but felt powerless to stop it. There were far more Jane Jacobs of that era than we hear about.
+JYDIVISN "perils of suburban sprawl"?!! WTF. Your comment speaks volumes about your strange thought processes. In a free society, which this still is, anyone who would seek to STOP people from moving wherever they please is antithetic to the founding principles of this country and thus, an enemy.
+Donnybrook10 Not sure if I can take your comment seriously because I doubt you even watched the video. Since it's a free society, I can't stop you from ranting on every thread in this video. I can; however, suggest that you take your belief that anti-sprawl advocates are "state enemies" and board a time machine back to your McCarthy-enshrined town.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Every single piece of evidence available shows how disastrous suburbs are to cities. American cities are in shambles and our transportation networks are horrendous because of them. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@@Donnybrook10 this country was founded on dense, walkable colonial cities and rural homesteading. The first suburbs were streetcar suburbs serviced by streetcar trains. Your comment is obviously a troll but if you're not, you're plain wrong.
Modern Suburbs were created through laws and regulation, aka zoning. We banned all other types of places from being built, for the most part.@@Donnybrook10
Excellent perceptive video, way ahead of its time. And by the Nat'l Assoc. of Home-builders, hardly a liberal or "Marxist" organization! It's true, micro-managed zoning laws encourage wasteful land sprawl and restrict the free in-movement of new residents in a most un-American way.
The fact that people have been criticizing low density urban sprawl since the 50s is amazing. I was thinking everyone was for it back then, but now more than ever we need to seriously consider building denser instead of endlessly sprawling into the natural landscape. Denser building is also more efficient with energy consumption, more value out of a plot of land, better for the local shops, better for the environment, better at keeping temperatures mild, better for your health as you will be walking more often, etc. Suburbia is the exact way a city should NEVER be designed!
@@marc44444 Actually yes. All people in the BBC had to speak the Queen's (posh) English, and everyone in the US television had to speak with the Transatlantic Accent. th-cam.com/video/Gpv_IkO_ZBU/w-d-xo.html
This video asks, are there more intelligent ways to plan our development? Made in 1959 it was an early statement on the growing problem of sprawl. The question and many of the insights remain valid 60 years later, as we amble along unable to plan development intelligently. Reading the anti-liberal, anti-left vitriol in the comments reveals the sort of limited thinking that keeps us stuck. Labeling public planning as socialism is ridiculous. Every advanced nation on earth is better at it than we are, and barely any of them are socialist to any degree.
But we do some of these things today. There are smaller lots, bigger houses, lots of townhouse developments now and also we almost exclusively use culdesacs or the “cluster method” as he called it
Zoning laws suck. What changed was that the price of buying a house went through the roof, many couldn't afford to and had a hard life. Now we're all taxed heavily and local governments and towns all get a piece of our American dream.
Several studies show that suburbia is unsustainable as it costs more to maintain than it generates. A few years ago, a residential property, with home, needed to be valued at $500,000 to produce income for its municipality. 🤯🤯
Now the increasingly crowded suburbs are in a mess every single day, and to make things worse there're either no proper rules and enforcements or are enforcing outdated rules, which drove everything just even worse.
Eric Johnson American cities haven’t declined. They rebounded since their decline and also suburbs are cheap, affordable and beautiful. Of course many people now have to live in the exurbs if they want a new house due to high costs and a lack of new construction within the past decade
I think the person who made this video back when said events were occurring might know a little more than you in 2017. You could have a lot of money but if cost of something scales in proportion to the perceived available wealth then budgets become limited.
Everytime I was looking at a house to buy in communities like this… the apartment buildings were is awful condition and the overall property values were low for the surrounding homes. These communities honestly did not age well. Meanwhile when I looked at subdivisions that were of fewer style dwelling price points or homes in downtown rural communities the quality of neighborhood appeal from current upkeep and even charm was still strong. I don’t know what all that means but from my perspective this proposed community idea they presented was not the answer.
I love this film buy it also makes me sad I was raised farming logging ect and it makes me so un happy we need to stop eating up our land and use it for our food clothing medicines ect that we need and mean absolutely 💯 need to not diminish make more farmers and people who don't rap the land but replenish it and take and give back more then we take
Suburbs are the sole reason American cities are in decline. They're horrible in literally every single way economically. People like you are the reason our country is struggling so much in that aspect. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I agree. Shiny black tarmac and brand new mcmansions lining the streets. Manicured landscaping and freshly unrolled sod, bright white concrete driveways and freshly planted trees. There is something so nice about a new neighborhood
This idea of learning to live with less goes back a long way. Workers need to sacrifice, while billionaires like Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos can live lavishly on huge plots of land.
It's funny how those leftist thinkers never have an answer for that. They are all for un-restricted immigration, but at the same time, complain that we build more subdivisions. What a fucking joke those people are.
Joe mariconadas You're basically the only guy in the country who is advocating for suburban growth. STFU when you don't know what your talking about. Geographers,GIS Analysts, Spacial Analysts, Environmentalists Architects,and Planners all have a general consensus that Suburban sprawl isn't a good thing overall and causes much greater problems than they fix. It's not a left vs right wing subject you twat, it's a bipartisan issue.What really is a joke is how you think you have a point. XD
smithraymond09029 Yes they can, infact many can do so cheaper than NewYork or London, even Tokyo (were smaller homes became more common with public spaces like caffees being popular and fast paced public transport eliminating the need for personal cars (rented>family car>personal car), wider streets and more parking lots).
I'm a Republican and I think It's ok to be gay And I think same-sex marriage is ok I'm fine with legal weed We do need to care for our environment I really don't care what race or religion you are your still a person It's liberals who stereotype everybody on a certain ideology Like In the mainstream media during the 2016 election when people talked about trump getting the black vote all black people where democrats or how all republicans are old grumpy white men And they don't call new immigrants THAT HAVE EARNED THE CITIZENSHIP Americans you guys still call Melania trump Slovenian It's not republicans that have no tolerance it's democrats/liberals who are pushing their ideology on people just look at the mainstream media or a public school talking and studying evolution or liberal arts and the parents or students have no choice but to learn about this you guys demonize the rich repeatedly deny any existance in God in public schooling (their not even aloud to have a bible studies club much less a bible) You beat, demonize, bully, harass anyone who disagrees with you (Just look at UC Berkley and ANTIFA) your practically brainwashing our children killing the opposition (Which is what they do in North Korea and Cuba) (you guys might actually like it there) Now tell me I'm intolerant because I'm a republican
Jaycob Parks You're ignorant as fuck not because you're Republican, but just because you're and idiot. Don't you think it's ironic that more highly educated people tend to be democrats? Also you say you don't stereotype, then you go on the stereotype all Democrats. Get off your moral high horse with your alternative "facts" you triggered snowflake.
Mleew After reading both your comment and Jaycob's, I can safely say that you look like the triggered snowflake. You also look very intolarant of his opinion. Lol
So people recognized the issues with suburban sprawl more than 6 decades ago, yet here we are today, sprawling more than ever and building more car-dependent communities far from jobs & shopping that often don't generate enough tax revenue to pay for their own infrastructure and services.
We are finally starting to fix this. Institutional inertia is a hard thing to overcome, though.
Codes and regulations
It's amazing that certain groups recognized the perils of the rapid suburban sprawl that was taking over, but felt powerless to stop it. There were far more Jane Jacobs of that era than we hear about.
+JYDIVISN "perils of suburban sprawl"?!! WTF. Your comment speaks volumes about your strange thought processes. In a free society, which this still is, anyone who would seek to STOP people from moving wherever they please is antithetic to the founding principles of this country and thus, an enemy.
+Donnybrook10 Not sure if I can take your comment seriously because I doubt you even watched the video. Since it's a free society, I can't stop you from ranting on every thread in this video. I can; however, suggest that you take your belief that anti-sprawl advocates are "state enemies" and board a time machine back to your McCarthy-enshrined town.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Every single piece of evidence available shows how disastrous suburbs are to cities. American cities are in shambles and our transportation networks are horrendous because of them. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@@Donnybrook10 this country was founded on dense, walkable colonial cities and rural homesteading. The first suburbs were streetcar suburbs serviced by streetcar trains. Your comment is obviously a troll but if you're not, you're plain wrong.
Modern Suburbs were created through laws and regulation, aka zoning. We banned all other types of places from being built, for the most part.@@Donnybrook10
6:50 Holy crap, thats exactly what happened!
The nyc one was correct, the national one was far from right.
This was really ahead of its time
Excellent perceptive video, way ahead of its time. And by the Nat'l Assoc. of Home-builders, hardly a liberal or "Marxist" organization! It's true, micro-managed zoning laws encourage wasteful land sprawl and restrict the free in-movement of new residents in a most un-American way.
The fact that people have been criticizing low density urban sprawl since the 50s is amazing. I was thinking everyone was for it back then, but now more than ever we need to seriously consider building denser instead of endlessly sprawling into the natural landscape.
Denser building is also more efficient with energy consumption, more value out of a plot of land, better for the local shops, better for the environment, better at keeping temperatures mild, better for your health as you will be walking more often, etc. Suburbia is the exact way a city should NEVER be designed!
I wish development was still like it was in the 20's. :(
I agree
+Quiet Ghouls you're clearly obsessed with hating on the oil companies. Check yourself. You have some serious issues.
more like 10,000 BCE
or at least 1750
@@Donnybrook10 stop dickriding oil companies
That was one of the most amazing videos I have seen, no exaggeration. Thank you so much for posting this.
Why do all 1950s voice overs or whatever you call it all sound the same
ikr lol same goes for the voice of trailers for movies. maybe there is some kind of school they all secretly attend that we don't know about 😀
@@marc44444 Actually yes. All people in the BBC had to speak the Queen's (posh) English, and everyone in the US television had to speak with the Transatlantic Accent. th-cam.com/video/Gpv_IkO_ZBU/w-d-xo.html
This video asks, are there more intelligent ways to plan our development? Made in 1959 it was an early statement on the growing problem of sprawl. The question and many of the insights remain valid 60 years later, as we amble along unable to plan development intelligently. Reading the anti-liberal, anti-left vitriol in the comments reveals the sort of limited thinking that keeps us stuck. Labeling public planning as socialism is ridiculous. Every advanced nation on earth is better at it than we are, and barely any of them are socialist to any degree.
But we do some of these things today. There are smaller lots, bigger houses, lots of townhouse developments now and also we almost exclusively use culdesacs or the “cluster method” as he called it
As of 2016 the US population is 323 million from 185 million as in the film. That is a population boom.
Illegal immigration
@@JeffRogers99 illegal immigrants don’t register on sensus
@@unknown-hb2to Yes they do.
@@unknown-hb2to yes they do... and they fuckin vote too
9:51 looks like a standard cluster in the Netherlands
This was an issue 70 years ago, yet they did nothing about it. smh
Zoning laws suck. What changed was that the price of buying a house went through the roof, many couldn't afford to and had a hard life. Now we're all taxed heavily and local governments and towns all get a piece of our American dream.
It sucks ... that’s what agenda 21 outlines... and sadly everyone thinks it’s great
Several studies show that suburbia is unsustainable as it costs more to maintain than it generates. A few years ago, a residential property, with home, needed to be valued at $500,000 to produce income for its municipality. 🤯🤯
It's worst now, overpopulated it's disgusting how it turn out, this video was right.
Now the increasingly crowded suburbs are in a mess every single day, and to make things worse there're either no proper rules and enforcements or are enforcing outdated rules, which drove everything just even worse.
Very educational and forward thinking. Cluster subdivisions are more livable, and thus higher value.
I love 50’s suburbs
20s ones were better
Well that didn't do anything. Same problems now except worse
The only things don't like about suburbs, is the swallowing of farmland.
They kinda push the local culture into submission too
Suburbs cause the destruction of cities. They are the sole reason American cities have declined. It's a fucking disgrace.
Eric Johnson American cities haven’t declined. They rebounded since their decline and also suburbs are cheap, affordable and beautiful. Of course many people now have to live in the exurbs if they want a new house due to high costs and a lack of new construction within the past decade
@@LucasFernandez-fk8se beautiful? The same souless house repeated hundreds of times is beautiful?
@@Caswell19 personally ... living in a huge ass building like a beehive is no way to live.....I grew up in the suburbs and it was great
So,... what's a house?
Based! Lots of Europoors mad they don’t have a their own private yard to do anything with, best memories as a kid was playing the back yard
Sponsored by Levitt & Sons.
God, if only folks listened to what even planners back then had to say.
Cheer~~~of or characteristic of a suburb.😊
Exactly
homework...
limited budgets of home buyers? give me a break! people were drowning in $$$$$$$$. The war was won, this brought money in.
I think the person who made this video back when said events were occurring might know a little more than you in 2017. You could have a lot of money but if cost of something scales in proportion to the perceived available wealth then budgets become limited.
Everytime I was looking at a house to buy in communities like this… the apartment buildings were is awful condition and the overall property values were low for the surrounding homes. These communities honestly did not age well. Meanwhile when I looked at subdivisions that were of fewer style dwelling price points or homes in downtown rural communities the quality of neighborhood appeal from current upkeep and even charm was still strong. I don’t know what all that means but from my perspective this proposed community idea they presented was not the answer.
And nothing changed since then.
So that more cars could be sold.
lamentable el problema del Suburban Sprawl opino que deberia de cesar ya
I love this film buy it also makes me sad I was raised farming logging ect and it makes me so un happy we need to stop eating up our land and use it for our food clothing medicines ect that we need and mean absolutely 💯 need to not diminish make more farmers and people who don't rap the land but replenish it and take and give back more then we take
I love huge new American suburbs. Beautiful. I prefer it over tiny old crowded cities with small housing. :P
Lucky for you to be able to afford it.
I don't, having public transport beats suburbs
fiona fiona
Well, I like driving anyway, so I don't mind it :P
Suburbs are the sole reason American cities are in decline. They're horrible in literally every single way economically. People like you are the reason our country is struggling so much in that aspect. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I agree. Shiny black tarmac and brand new mcmansions lining the streets. Manicured landscaping and freshly unrolled sod, bright white concrete driveways and freshly planted trees. There is something so nice about a new neighborhood
excellent analysis in the first half, dogshit low density remedies that we actually did that made matters worse in the second half
exactly lol. they had us in the first half ngl
hasnt changed much
This idea of learning to live with less goes back a long way. Workers need to sacrifice, while billionaires like Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos can live lavishly on huge plots of land.
Jeff Bezos’ and Bill Gates’ town went bankrupt a few years ago. The model is unviable for anyone.
Zoning spreads taxpayers too sparcely to finance improvements
Where the fuck are people supposed to go? More people meant more space needed. Not all cities can build upwards like New York or Chicago.
It's funny how those leftist thinkers never have an answer for that. They are all for un-restricted immigration, but at the same time, complain that we build more subdivisions. What a fucking joke those people are.
Joe mariconadas You're basically the only guy in the country who is advocating for suburban growth. STFU when you don't know what your talking about. Geographers,GIS Analysts, Spacial Analysts, Environmentalists Architects,and Planners all have a general consensus that Suburban sprawl isn't a good thing overall and causes much greater problems than they fix. It's not a left vs right wing subject you twat, it's a bipartisan issue.What really is a joke is how you think you have a point. XD
May I ask... why can't upwards? For whatttt?
smithraymond09029
Yes they can, infact many can do so cheaper than NewYork or London, even Tokyo (were smaller homes became more common with public spaces like caffees being popular and fast paced public transport eliminating the need for personal cars (rented>family car>personal car), wider streets and more parking lots).
Yes they can US cities used to be dense like those other cities till the bulldozed them down for parking lots and freeways
Im a liberal, I love living in the city, but have friendsin suburbs. We are very tolerant, unlike most Republicons.
I'm a Republican and I think
It's ok to be gay
And I think same-sex marriage is ok
I'm fine with legal weed
We do need to care for our environment
I really don't care what race or religion you are your still a person
It's liberals who stereotype everybody on a certain ideology
Like In the mainstream media during the 2016 election when people talked about trump getting the black vote all black people where democrats or how all republicans are old grumpy white men And they don't call new immigrants THAT HAVE EARNED THE CITIZENSHIP Americans you guys still call Melania trump Slovenian
It's not republicans that have no tolerance it's democrats/liberals who are pushing their ideology on people just look at the mainstream media or a public school talking and studying evolution or liberal arts and the parents or students have no choice but to learn about this you guys demonize the rich repeatedly deny any existance in God in public schooling (their not even aloud to have a bible studies club much less a bible)
You beat, demonize, bully, harass anyone who disagrees with you (Just look at UC Berkley and ANTIFA) your practically brainwashing our children killing the opposition (Which is what they do in North Korea and Cuba) (you
guys might actually like it there)
Now tell me I'm intolerant because I'm a republican
Jaycob Parks 🇺🇸🗽👍
Jaycob Parks You're ignorant as fuck not because you're Republican, but just because you're and idiot. Don't you think it's ironic that more highly educated people tend to be democrats? Also you say you don't stereotype, then you go on the stereotype all Democrats. Get off your moral high horse with your alternative "facts" you triggered snowflake.
Mleew
After reading both your comment and Jaycob's, I can safely say that you look like the triggered snowflake. You also look very intolarant of his opinion. Lol
Isaac Detherage Triggered is the person who literally typed a Microsoft Word page worth rant from a sentence long comment. Boy Bye XD