If you really believe life = the universe you really need to first define life. Go to the moon and find life, or Mars, Venus, Mercury... We have yet to find life anywhere else but you're claiming the universe IS life?
+P Sander, First you had a canvas then you added paint on it, the paint does not become the canvas just become it is on it. If the canvas somehow evolved to have paint on it then yes i would say the paint was the canvas.
The paint/canvas argument doesn't fit well as this is something that is done with purpose; paint doesn't grow on canvas. The mold and the bread, I think, is a better example of this. If you had an entire loaf of bread, and a bit of mold no bigger than a few crumbs had grown on just one corner of it, would the entire loaf be mold? Of course not. In fact, you could get rid of the mold and still be left with a loaf of bread. This is the same in the universe. Yes, there is life in the universe, but that doesn't make the entire universe life.
I love this analogy, well done! In one of my undergrad engineering courses at Georgia Tech, the professor told us that at a point, when odds are sufficiently low, it is impossible. We like to say, “no, it could happen” but we fail to understand the enormity of the odds.
You say here that when the Big Bang occurred it was JUST RIGHT. Any faster and life couldn't form, any slower and it would collapse back on itself. But you're forgetting one important theory... who says that the Big Bang that started our universe that we live in currently was the first ever Big Bang? Who is to say that many times before this universe there weren't other universes that didn't quite get the expansion rate correct, thus collapsing back in on itself and then exploding billions of times over until it finally got the correct combination to harbour a universe that could sustain life (us). Maybe it did take 70 trillion rolls of the dice and we just don't realise we aren't roll number one...
Jack Lawrence bloody hell dude do you actually believe what you are saying??? billions of big bangs spawned from nothing.... like it's some kind of experiment by nothing
Peace John no I'm not saying I believe in anything here. I'm just saying he is trying to prove the Big Bang wrong without considering all sides of what the theory has to offer
The odds that there is yet other life and maybe not exactly as we know it still and created only by chance on even more planets and solar systems in the Universe are perhaps so great that if we were to start calculating now perhaps we might not live to finish doing so.
Nah, some scientist already discussed that we might be the only intelligent being exist in the entire universe based on lots of proof, one that I remember the most are when they gave out the argument on how there's maybe million of habitable planet like earth out there plus the universe have been around of more than billions years but nobody ever to visit us considering it would only take hypothetically speaking 4 millions years to develop fast travel spaceship accord to human technology progress
@@satuliebe4842 yea but there's so many factors and were pretty in the dark, so what we "know" could be based entirely on incorrect info. probably not but its possible
@@11_year_old_princess innocent people die to not live in this tragic world that us sinners should continue living in one day this earth is gonna turn into hell and only sinners will be left on here to survive read the bible
@@11_year_old_princess just because one dies doesnt mean they arent resting in peace or ina better place if they trully are innocent theyll be resting in heaven
@@eternalwoozieinternal853 exactly, but none of us are truly innocent and we are all sinners, that's why we need the blood of our lord Jesus Christ. God Bless!
There cannot be infinite amount of time. Time began. Science and biblical teachings would agree on that matter. We know time began because there cannot be an infinite amount of past events. It's a mathematical abstract and logically speaking it cannot exist. God the creator of the universe must be outside of space and time. I would strongly recommend you watch dr William Lane Craig. He has answered so many awesome questions I've had about things like this.
@@kingconan1369 Are you saying time is incoherent. We do science with the intent of making sense out of things. We don't argue in favor of nonsense which seems to be the approach you are taking.
Correct Zuver! Amazing, we have at least one intelligent person! There is no beginning or end to time. The very concept of a beginning or end of time is from people who cannot comprehend something so vast that it literally never begins and never ends. Time itself is only a relation of things that exist in relation to other things that exist. Energy cannot be destroyed, nor created, therefore it has always been and will always be, which means infinite.
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John 7:7 King James Version 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. Hebrews 11:6 King James Version 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. John 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God loves you so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross to pay for your sins. If you believe and put your trust in Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross to pay your sin debt and that He rose again on the third day, you will be saved. once you are saved, you will not die in your sins and be damned to hell for eternity. God will remove your sins and your soul will be washed clean with the blood that Jesus Christ shed for us on the cross. your own good works will not get you into heaven. Jesus Christ did all of the work for you, all you have to do is believe and put your trust in Him and He will save you. Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,. Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we all have to be ready. I pray in Jesus Christ's mighty name that you be saved. God bless:)
@@popscola2574 Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much. Hell is real. You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:). 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 King James Version 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God Bless:) It's eternity, you want to spend it in heaven not hell. Please read the book of John, and ask God for understanding and He will show you. Please look into it. The evidence is all there. Also look up Lee Strobel " Case for Christ" God Bless:)
Okay hear me out. What if the dices weren't rolled perfectly and life did not come into existance? We wouldn't be here. Imagine that there are more universes other than this one, where the dice is rolled. The large large majority of them not developing right. The only reason you can think of this concept right now, is because you live in a universe where life is supported. There are no people in failed universes, because they don't support life. The only places where organisms can be able to contemplate why they live in a perfect universe, is if they live in one. The only reason why the presenter didn't come up with the same conclusion as I did, is because he is not open minded.
this is like creationists saying a banana was designed for the human hand. Instead the banana's shape can be thought of as being easy to work with the hand of a human but not designed specifically for it. Also, this guy is so arrogant he doesn't realize that probability is based off the chances of something occurring and not that it will never occur. Given a long time anything can occur even if the probability is low. For example, the probability of rolling six 6 times in a row is very low but has it occurred somewhere. Yes in all likely someone has had that happen at one time. Just like there are some people who win the lottery multiple times when the odds are very unlikely. It doesn't mean it cant occur it just means its very unlikely but it has happened. Also, the expansion rate of the universe changing can even cause a higher probability of life. Also, the fact that our form of life may not be the only way that life may exist. The conditions were just right for our type of life to exist but that doesn't mean changing the conditions get rid of life itself from existing. People who use math to justify god's existence always seem to forget these variables.
There are no other planets and life and galaxies..just a the earth, moon sun , and stars...other planets and galaxies are deception from the media and false teachings we all grew up with. I know its hard to believe but its true
This is all assuming we were meant to be alive, like we are. There is no proof that our way of life is the only way life can happen. Who's to say there is any other type of of life?
Right. No proof at all. Except maybe fossilized bacteria found on Mars, or the strong evidence showing that Titan, one of Jupiter's moons, could've supported some form of water-based lifeform underneath its thick coating of ice. There's a lot of hypotheses, several potentialities for extraterrestrial life. After all, we've been finding planetoids with Earth-like aspects. Even if you arbitrarily decided that all life in the universe has to be carbon-based like what's found on Earth, you'd still be left with a mathematically daunting number averaging in the quintillions of potentially life-sustaining worlds. Widen your scope and consider that life could be, I don't know, based on silicates instead of carbon, and there's even more room to grow out there. We like to believe that we're unique, and the Fermi Paradox does reinforce the notion that we're too small, too far away or too insignificant to justify any sort of contact between us and other hypothetically sapient species. If you abandon science fiction and the notion of aliens making contact, it's a lot easier to consider that there might be civilizations out there still struggling in their own version of the Neolithic era, their own Dark Ages or Renaissance, anything before spaceflight, basically - or worlds where life develops without ever reaching human levels of intelligence. Plant life is still life, after all. It seems a lot more likely to me that we'll find *something* at some point. I'd never bank on a scenario that would make Trekkies blush with envy, though. Alien animal life or extraterrestrial plants would be as worth scrutiny to me as any stereotypical advanced civilization New Agers might want to believe in.
Try this experiment: Roll the dice 70 times and write down the numbers you get. Now do multiple series of rolls until you get the exact same numbers in the same order as the first time. That will also take you quite some time. Question, how unlikely was it that you got those exact numbers the first time? Probability is tricky.
The problem with your statement Olof is that you didn't preset the required numbers prior to the rolling of the die. If you roll the die 70 times (or 70 dice at once - same thing) you will 100% of the time get a series of results. It is the chance of getting a specific series in a specific order. That is the point of this demonstration.
@@BanjoSoop The demonstration presuppose that the universe had a specific goal, a series in a specific order if you like. That is the point with my statement.
@@olofgardell3713 you make a very interesting point. But doesn't it state that things had to be a certain way for us to be alive? Are you saying there may have been other ways to be alive and not just this way? Either way even if we have proof that it's a design by an intelligent being, doesn't prove it's by god. Could be anyone. Could be us.
lotteries are made to be won. Numbers don't repeat themselves. So your argument is irrelevant. When using dice, numbers repeat themselves. Past a certain number of tries, the odds will repeat themselves, so that an extremely low odd becomes impossible. It is said that beyond 10 to the 36 possibilities, an event is impossible to occur... unless you give the condition that possibilities can't happen twice. But this is against the laws of probabilities. It's like rigging the dice. In order to prevent a certain formation of a universe to happen again, you would need a structure of memorization of possibilities beyond time and space. This would be in no way different from the belief in God.
This argument assumes that we only have one person who bought a ticket, and the machine was only ever pulled one time, and assumes that we have a vast number of balls with a broad range of numbers on them. all of these are assumptions. one can just as easily assume that thousands and thousands of possible tickets exist, the machine was pulled a thousand thousand times, and that the balls only have the numbers 0 to 9 on them. if all your argument for god rests on is assumption then I hardly find it compelling. and seen as the gulf between deism and theism is even harder to cross the inability of these arguments to leap this first hurdle is not exactly a good sign.
Let's put it another way. Let's say you throw a set of cards on the ground in the hope that it falls in the shape of a 6 stories high tower of cards with no card left unused or misused. We can assume that this is impossible in one try. Let's add to this hypothetical situation that you can try an infinite amount of time. Let's say that the possibility of achieving this is once every 10 to the 36 possibilities. Common sense tells you that it will never happen even if you try more than 10 to the 36 times because other simpler probabilities can happen again an infinite amount of time. You will see a simple configuration of cards many times, but never a perfect 6 stories high tower. This requires design. This is like saying about the Eiffel tower in Paris that it's probably designed, but there is an infinitesimal probability that it appeared by chance. Only a lunatic would think that.
@@dr6415 both side will live with hope. There are hope that god exist As There are hope that god doesnt exist No one can prove his situation 100% because there are not proof and will never be. It is still a coin flip 50/50
@@ukleth Nobody can prove that something does not exist. Can somebody prove that dragons do not exist? Be careful when you step out of your house next time.
Thats like saying, what are the odds of our planet having life? Its so unlikely! But then when you realize that there are trillions and trillions of planets... the odds of one of them having life isnt so unlikely now.
But I don't think You understand that he is not talking about about our planet having life, (which is unlikely) he is talking about that one time that the universe exploded into existence which was 1 time which also makes the odds very unlikely which just proves that God exists, but I can't change your mind all I can do is plant the seed God does the tending and growing
+Tyler Friesen That's some nasty shit. Also, that doesn't prove that there is an immensely powerful cosmic being which forged life from its own will. For proof of such an entity, evidences of its physical existence must be collected. Having a hard time comprehending mere probability does not fully detail the likelihood of an entire individual which crafted everything.
The issue with that statement is that this video is talking particularly about the expansion rate of the universe. The statistics he uses aren't just in regards to the planet we live on having life. It's a 1/10^55 chance that the universe expands fast enough to not collapse back in on itself (so it wouldn't exist at all) or that it wouldn't expand too quickly to where energy is spread too thinly and matter couldn't becoming increasingly complex to form the life giving atoms we know such as carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen.
He addresses that point. He even says the problem is solved by the notion that infinite (or trillions of trillions) of universes exist - but that the belief that other universes exist is also a faith-based claim. He's not even addressing the chances that life would form - other than the statement about it actually being less likely than what he stated. He talks about the expansion rate of the universe allowing the elements that make up our universe to form in the first place. There are issues with this, just like all origin beliefs - "scientific" or otherwise. We cannot say that the other universes with faster/ slower rates of expansion wouldn't result in different physical laws that would result in matter and energy and trillions of planet-like things anyways - and with trillions of planets you have trillions of lottery tickets for life. We also have no way of knowing that the universe didn't explode too weak/slowly several trillion times and re-collapse on itself before producing what we believe is the current rate of expansion Each collapse would essentially re-engulf space-time itself. Meaning the difference between once and infinite is practically indistinguishable. Also, that's kind of what a singularity is: Infinity expressed as one. The universe thought about this, and it blew its mind. That's what we call the big bang. The universe is named Frank. The previous collapsed universes were not named Frank. One of them was named Tabitha.
So the universe is too complex to just exist by "chance" therefore you are getting around that problem by claiming that the basis of reality is an even more complex intelligent mind that can create and destroy things? So how can that just exist? This assumption does not solve the problem. It doesn't even come close to solving the problem. It just leaves you with the same problem only it's now even more difficult to explain. That's why you don't attempt to explain it. It is God. God is God. No one can explain God. Ah, how convenient.
It's called an "argument from ignorance" or "the god of the gaps" - basically, "We don't know. Therefore God" A few centuries ago you'd have heard "We don't know where lightning comes from. Therefore Thor"
Arguement from ignorance AND You are claiming that this universe is too complex to exist by chance, therefore it must have been built by 'God', or whatever. That creator must be even more complex. It must have come from somewhere too. All you accomplish with that idea is to remove yourself 1 step from the original question, and made it even more complex and, by your logic, less possible'. Believe whatever you like, but please, at least try to think. ]
+Edwin Spellcaster - doesn't work that way. The "probability argument" in the vid is based on a lack of understanding of the difference between "a priori" probabilities and "a posteriori" probabilities. It's the sort of thing I'd expect any undergraduate math student to pick up on immediately - to be honest, I'm amazed (amused actually) that people still take this one seriously. In any case, this article by John Allen Paulos (a math prof at Temple University) explains what's wrong with the math in layman's terms abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2384584
Argument from Authority? the prof also starts his "argument" with a straw man; claiming that we are denying Independence (ridiculous) Third he later cites the very phenomenon we are talking about: observation of extremely low probabilities in countless occurrences ! He disproved nothing
He needs a better argument, this one doesn't hold up. Two reasons, for one, even with his argument there's still just as much evidence for God doing it as there is for Yahweh, Jehovah, Satan creating the universe, some alien, nothing explains specifically who did it, and secondly we really have no clue what the odds of this universe being here are, we aren't advanced enough as a civilization to claim we know the odds.
@@ys92legand24 It doesn't matter. It still applies. This is actually called the gamblers fallacy. Just because something is possible doesn't mean it will happen.
God, Yahweh and Jehovah are the same Being. God simply being the English title of a Higher-Being. Jehovah being an early English translation of the name inwhich the Judeo-Christian God introduces Himself to Moses. And Yahweh being a much later English translation of that same name.
Literally your entire argument is a "what if" and a "maybe" Like, dude, im not against religion. But if your saying that probability proves god is real, especially in an infinite universe that we dont even fully understand yet. Then i definitely NEVER want to go to a casino with you
@@justdidit3933 because thats literally the kind of thing he says at points in the video like 0:52 and 1:46. And thats not the last time he says it either. The title says the dice "proves" god exists, but using what if statements proves nothing.
You'll have to show me how those "what if" statements sum up his entire argument because I just don't see it. It seems clear to me that those statements are not the argument itself, but his way of making a point rhetorically. Nevertheless, it seems to me you don't find this argument convincing. May I ask what specific aspect(s) of the argument you find issue with?
@@justdidit3933 sure. And perhaps we just dont see eye to eye on this subject and thats fine. But the points of his argument that i just do not agree with and honestly find comical is that he never gives any solid evidence and proof to god being real. In fact he doesnt have much of an argument at all if were being realistic here. His statement in this video can be sumerized to be "its incredibly improbable so it cant be possible" even though we dont know how universes form or how life could have had been diffrent if the universe had been diffrent. The way he states it makes it seem as though our univers is completely unique, but the truth is that it would more likely be like a gradiant. With some possible universe being able to have life while others cannot. In all honesty his entire argument is ironic because it is in of itself a gamble, even though the way he states it in the title is to try and make is think its fact.
You bring up a fair point. "Proof" is always subject to interpretation, so I would never say this argument proves, un-equivocally, that God exists. Rather, I would say it makes belief in his existence more reasonable than not. But back to the argument, let me ask you this. Putting all other possibilities aside for the moment, do you agree that because the odds of our universe's physical constants being lined up perfectly to sustain life is so minutely small that this at least at face value seems to indicate it was designed?
Philip Olivier Jean Nowhere. They made it up. It's a fake thing so that they can convince people. That being said, the presentation was quality and so was the video/audio.
+Sam Adams ur right. his math is wrong. ive been trying to do it correctly but I cant get the numbers to work cause I'm just a stupid believer. perhaps u can show us the proper math. please??????
How unlikely does an event have to be before you can round down to “it’s impossible”? One specific sperm fertilizing an egg on a specific day and combining dna in exactly the right way to create me is statistically unlikely, but it happened. Also, how do you make the leap from x is impossible to x is caused by a god? What if the unlikely event is caused by something else we don’t know about or simply occurs without any intent or forethought.
You make the leap from X is impossible to X is caused by God because in order for space, time, and materials to exist there must be something spaceless, timeless, and immaterial needed to create them. It's agreed upon in the scientific community that the universe had a beginning, and there's no evidence to suggest that the "big bang" was caused by "the universe." Something intelligent had to have started it in the first place. Christians believe that intelligent thing to be God.
@@Јоханатан Try rolling 10 dice and write down the numbers you got. Hitting that exact combination with 10 rolls is exactly as likely as rolling 10 6s, yet you magically just got it!
fantasy thats becoming reality so sure whatever. no high horse just glad to see progress and religion taking a back seat to that. also not a vegan/vegetarian so do what you want with the hooves.
DENYOURMAKER i wasn't speaking specifically about the us. however. the Harris poll says the following "Just under 2-in-10 U.S. adults described themselves as very religious, with an additional 4-in-10 describing themselves as somewhat religious down from 49 percent in 2007. Twenty-three percent of Americans identified themselves as not at all religious, nearly double the 12 percent reported in 2007" in europe the figures show less and less believing in God also at much greater numbers.
I certainly do hope superstition and religions die out, they have been the cancer of the world disguised as ¨love and eternal life¨ while manipulating weak minds into creating the biggest conflicts, division and hate we have ever seen.
Imagine the defeat you'd feel rolling a six 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 times in a row only to roll a one on the next roll.
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I know I'm late to the party, but: 1. The universe hit 70 rolls of the number 6 in a row first time - This analogy doesn't work for 2 reasons. First, you can calculate mathematically the chance to hit 70 consecutive 6's on your dice in a row. You just did. But you can't mathematically calculate how likely it is for a universe to be created. Sure, you can create an analogy, like you just did, but it doesn't hold. You have no data to use, like you have in the case of dice. Here, you have a dice with 6 faces, that's the entire system. It's pretty easy to calculate the mathematical odds of hitting a certain number in a row. But you can't calculate the probability for a universe capable of sustaining life forming. Because you don't have multiple universes to compare it to, you don't have the bigger picture with set limits, like in the case of the dice. The second problem is how were you able to figure out that the universe hit that unlikely 6 70 times in a row FIRST TIME? How did you excluded the possibility of the universe being born and being destroyed billions and billions of times (or trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions) before finally taking a form which allowed the emergence of life? Oh right, you can't, you just excluded it by omission. The analogy would've worked if we also could've witnessed the birth, life, and death of multiple universes and calculate the chances for them to breed life, based on how many lifeless and how many life-filled universe we observed. But we don't have that, so the analogy is flawed. 2. Unlikeliness isn't the same with impossibility - No matter how unlikely a phenomenon is, you can't say it's impossible unless you've already demonstrated that it is impossible. Here, let me explain: Highly unlikely - Extremely low chances to occur, but can occur since there are no laws of the universe preventing it from occurring. Impossible - Cannot occur, since we have demonstrated that the laws of the universe prevent it from occurring (like a square circle) You confuse these 2 things throughout your video, including at 2:57 "Let's imagine I rolled the dice 70 times, each time hitting a 6, first try, no waiting for trillions and trillions of years. Beginners luck? Hardly" Why hardly? It's certainly not impossible. So, how do you exclude the possibility of the "beginner's luck". You can't. Then you continue "You would assume I rigged the dice" Right, people tend to do that when they see an event as unlikely as rolling 6 70 times in a row. That' doesn't mean they're correct. Because maybe you didn't rig the dice. Maybe it was beginner's luck. Then, you go even further, completely eliminating the chance altogether at 3:29 saying "The fact that we're here shows that somebody 'rigged the dice'". Wrong, it can also show the occurrence of a lucky chance. Which you dismissed without any reasonable explanation. But everything culminates at 3:45 when you claim that there's no scientific evidence for multiverse, which would make believing in the multiverse theory unreasonable. Which is rich coming from someone occupying the theist's position. But then you say "If you believe that, you're just as guilty as being in a faith-based position as someone who believes God did it", which, I don't know how to put it, dismantles your theist position. And then you continue with "But believing in God isn't a delusion, it's a perfectly reasonable conclusion" which is not only unsupported given your failure to understand concepts like chance, probability, and impossibility, but it's also contradictory with what you claimed literally 3 second previously. I appreciate the effort almost as much as I appreciate the failure.
TheWaterdog6 yes you cant prove that we just got lucky and the universe came into existence and our planet was in the perfect place and life was able to form all by chance. how can you prove that. There are two theory about how the universe started one is the multiverse theory (there are many universes in existence and our was one of the one that were able to create matter and life) the other is the super symmetry which suggests that all of the elementary particles (bosons and fermions) are connected in some way.
"Maybe there's an infinite amount of universes with an infinite amount of possibilities. Maybe. But we DON'T HAVE ANY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR IT" How ironic
I once dropped a nickel. It rolled across the floor, bounced off the wall, rolled back a few inches, and stopped... remaining balanced on its edge without falling over. A guy named Michael Dick lost track of his daughter; he hadn't seen her in 10 years. He went to the town where he thought she lived to search for her. After being unable to find her, he took a photo of himself and asked local papers to publish it, along with his story. His daughter did see the picture... and noticed that SHE WAS IN THE PHOTO behind him. She didn't even live in the town anymore; she was visiting that day and just happened to be walking by. The odds of any of us having been born is 1 in 400 trillion. Very improbable things happen. Despite this being a well-produced, compelling video, at the end of the day, it proves nothing; it's still just an argument from incredulity. Even if this convinces you, it argues only for an intelligent designer, not the God of Abraham or any deity whatsoever.
@@No_bread-and-circuses that's wrong totally, limiting god to certain names and persons is also wrong , Krishna has been described in a much much much better way of what god needs to be compared to god of abraham, still however limiting god to Krishna or anything else is wrong, god is beyond all of this
I once personally flipped an Australian 50 cent coin over a bet to see who would get master bedroom in a unit me and a mate rented, about 20 years ago ,and it landed perfectly on its edge. I said take it and to this day have never once bet again.
I like that. I bring to your attention the fact that we never really know anything in an absolute manner. Probability is the human equivalent of saying "Most likely" while being intellectually honest that we do nto know it all. I may use the line tho.
@@j-joe-jeans you said we don’t know anything in an absolute manner, how do you know that’s true if nothing can be known absolutely according to your beliefs
This essentially comes down to a common misunderstanding of probability ... what these people forget is that, whist there is a 1 in a zillion chance of getting x 6s in a row, there is the same chance for literally every conceivable specific combination of rolls. Kind of removes the mystery if you ask me.
The difference is organization, and continuation. The laws of physics says that the state of matter is gradual degradation. Things SHOULD have become more DISORGANIZED since the big bang, not MORE organized. Chaos so says science.
John 7:7 King James Version 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. Hebrews 11:6 King James Version 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. John 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God loves you so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross to pay for your sins. If you believe and put your trust in Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross to pay your sin debt and that He rose again on the third day, you will be saved. once you are saved, you will not die in your sins and be damned to hell for eternity. God will remove your sins and your soul will be washed clean with the blood that Jesus Christ shed for us on the cross. your own good works will not get you into heaven. Jesus Christ did all of the work for you, all you have to do is believe and put your trust in Him and He will save you. Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,. Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we all have to be ready. I pray in Jesus Christ's mighty name that you be saved. God bless :)
@@eliwalker6245”hateth”?? If the bible has already been altered and translated so much why is it still in old English 🙄. May as well change it again to modernised English
@@bondojoe8161 this was what I was thinking, I get where the first commenter is coming from however that "roll of dice" has continuously for billions of years rolled the right side up!
I have a BA in Math, Master of Computer Science, I can say he does not understand probability. Regardless, it is in fact still possible by his own admission.
Because the video uses the falacy that you already have to believe you were destined to exist the first place. Only a believer will think that this video makes any sense, anyone with logical reasoning will say otherwise.
Jon Do Well, at least the Abrahamic, Nordic, Egyptian, Hindu, or any personal God. A God that's only defined as "the entity that created the universe" while still far-fetched has at least have a chance.
No, it means that because something is basically impossible means that the if there's one other possible cause, then it must be the correct answer, logically.
If the universe were different or adjusted to the smallest degree life would not exist. The laws that we know about which shape everything are calibrated and if offset would result in nonexistence.
Austin Hill Life has evolved to survive and adapt. What you see is an imperfect but perfectly functional result of constant tweaking and adjusting. No masterpiece simply is.
Lolololol James... Now you're not talking science, you're talking about philosophy my friend. But I'll bite... You are assuming the laws are not "calibrated". You don't know that, they could be exactly what science says they are. This is a pointless conversation because math vs poetry.
Gnomey T.O what if God made it that way. you have no proof there were more than one bang. I have no scientific proof of God. We are in the same boat believeing in something we can't prove.
Not really the same boat. First though, let me state that the "one in six to the 70th power" number, I can assure you, is fabricated. There is no way anyone who hasn't observed several big bangs could possibly comprehend everything going on enough so that they could hope to put odds on its occurring a certain way, or that they could conclusively state that only one set of die rolls equals life: It's like watching one person cross the street, then concluding that if anyone had tried to cross it in any other way, no matter how slight the change, that they'd be killed by a moving bus. Of course the chances of that one fellow crossing the way he did was was 1:6^70, and since it happened right the first time, god helped him cross the street. One who believes in god has subscribed to a single possibility without proof. The other responses I see here are from those who are admitting there are things we don't know. There's no faith in that except for acknowledged and researched proof. Could this proof be wrong? Yes. And science allows for that. That is why I state that it's "not the same boat." Honestly science shouldn't care about proving god doesn't exist any more than it needs to prove that unicorns don't exist.
Do you have any evidence otherwise? No. Still a faith position. You believe there is no God and consequently choose to believe the possibilities that support that notion. Like it or not, we do not know enough to make any assertions. Atheist or theist, it's all still faith.🌚 Also to answer you question directly, even if it wasn't the first time, the rate of expansion had to remain constant throughout the expansion as did all the other laws that govern the universe. Each second of that is another roll of the die. Still impossible. Heck, we're still rolling the dice even now.
@@chuckswanson8496 I don't get your point exactly, but if you think I was equating the faith of the theist with that of the atheist, l wasn't. The faith of the theist, apart from being more rational, brings much needed peace and guidance. Also, yes, sincere seekers of truth will be guided to it.
@@rydok1313 the point is people that seek God by faith God does reveal himself with his invisible attributes in a clear way which convinces that person that God is real. Even to the point of having a relationship with him.
This is a very weak argument at best. The appearance of fine-tuning can be simply explained as a consequence of the weak anthropic principle and survivorship bias. The dice have already been rolled, the sequence of numbers has already occurred, and now you’re looking back at those numbers, in hindsight, saying - this is improbable therefore God did it. Where do I even begin? You assume the universe only got one chance at "rolling the dice 70 times" to get all of the constants right - but how do you know it didn't get gazilion chances to roll the dice before it got all of the constants right? You assume there's only one universe with just the right constants - but how do you know there aren't many more universes out there that aren't as fine-tuned ? Secondly, how does this prove that God did it? - Maybe multiple Gods were involved ? How about aliens from the parallel universe? or mischievous programmer of one of the simulations that you just happen to live in? Or maybe it was just an unconscious natural phenomena for which at least we have plenty of evidence here on earth - aren't we surrounded by examples of natural processes which produce complexity without the involvement of any intelligent consciousness (trees grow from seeds and humans from nothing but a single sperm and an egg cell) Lastly, you assume that highly improbable complexity must have had a deliberate cause but then you proceed to abandon this assumption when you come to the conclusion that God dit it. Using your own logic - If God exists, and complex existence must have had a cause, then God must have been caused. And here you arrive at infinite regress fallacy, if God fine-tuned the universe for life, then who fine-tuned the God for creating life-bearing universe ?
The entire premise of this vid is based on a complete misunderstanding of basic probability. There is a difference between "a priori" probabilities (which is what he's referring to) and "a posteriori" probabilities which is what he should be talking about.
Ah - so you are an American and don't have a maths degree? These differences in probability only exist in your head. You don't like the inevitable result so you invent a problem with the Maths.
"a posteriori" refers to the distribution of known results. They aren't two different parts of probability. This videois about the likelihood of the universe happening by chance, and this is patently unlikely.
“imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!" - Douglas Adams
roll of dice is calculated on the probability theory. But it is possible to skill out your dice throw. Same goes for the needle dropping between a line or crossing a line. Do that a couple of times and you become skilled and can choose the position where you want it to land. A bit more practice and finger snapping movement comes in to play and the needle falls point first and sticks into the surface. Probability theory hasn't much to do with the universe. Even Einstein believed "God" did not dice.
Atheists, christians, so called jews, muslims. Yea all peoples of the earth, hear the Word of the Lord, spoken to us, THIS last generation! More of these Letters found at the bottom of this comment; "Thus says The Lord: Peoples of the earth, do you know Me? Do you really know who I am? I am Elohim. YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH is My name, both God and Savior. For in The Son does the fullness of The Father dwell.[1] Yet you of this earth have not known Me! Behold, I have spoken to you plainly, using few figures of speech, yet you do not know Me! From the beginning, even to this day, I have declared My glory through all My servants, the prophets, and still you refuse to embrace Me as I truly am! Behold, the peoples of the earth pollute My name, and the nations take counsel together to strike Me from remembrance! Therefore, ALL shall come to know Me in My anger! Every tribe, tongue, and people shall behold My hand against the nations, until all those who blaspheme are bowed down, until every jaw is clamped shut and every tongue cleaves to the roof of the mouth! For I am come out of My sanctuary, to astound the nations, to judge and to pour out judgment, to repay and take vengeance upon My enemies, to make an end! Yet I ask you, who among the nations fears Me? Who among this modern generation, among all these multitudes of perverse and vile people, revere My name? Who, among this great multitude, trembles in fear at the coming of The Lord?! And who among the mighty shall be able to stand, when the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven?! Therefore repent, and establish My way before Me, says The Lord God, and I shall also establish you! For I am The Lord, and I shall establish justice in all the earth! Why, O peoples of the earth, do you stand proud? Why do you set your faces like stone, and resolve in your hearts to fight against Me? Behold, I have set My face against YOU, and resolve in My heart to abase you, until the pride of man is bowed down and the arrogance of man is utterly humiliated, as it is written! Be bowed down therefore, O most wicked generation! Humble yourselves and repent, and seek now The Righteousness of The Lord, that you may live and not die! Peoples of the earth, how long shall you court death and desire abomination?! Your hearts are full of adultery; you cease not from lying down with sin! Behold, you have joined yourselves to the grave and With death you have made your agreement![2]... Foolish people, see now the Word of The Lord, Open your ears and listen to the voice of The Lord your God, And establish My way before Me, that you may live and not die... For there is no other God besides Me; A just God and a Savior, there is none besides Me[3]... Says The Lord." ~ "Peoples of the earth, hear the Word of The Lord your God: You are lost, drowning in a deep sea of transgression, sinking in the ever-shifting sands of religion and science. You are stuck in the mire of your iniquities, slowly suffocating, as the fruit of your labor comes full circle to take away your life. For by your own works have you destroyed the garden, on account of your greed have you caused much suffering and death, bringing calamity upon your own heads! Thus because of your great iniquity I have drawn back My hand, and for the multitude of your transgressions the judgment of God has come upon you. Dead generation, foolish children, evil surrounds you on every side! Darkness closes in, yet you remain unmoved! Detestable birds gather and predators come forth to stalk you as prey, yet you see no cause for alarm! Therefore as I live, says The Lord, My flock has become the prey and My children have made themselves meet for the slaughter! For the peoples of the earth have forsaken Me, days without end; they have altogether gone astray! My created ones have removed themselves far from Me, and My own beloved have not returned to Me, but do always seek their own way! And of the shepherds, they did not go out to search for My flock, but have fed themselves! They did not feed My flock, BUT HAVE FED THEMSELVES! Therefore hear the Word of The Lord, all you self-appointed shepherds, and give ear, all you wayward flocks, for you have surely broken the yoke and burst the bonds, you have surely forsaken The Lord your God; for thus says The Lord: I am against you! Your houses are fallen, and the foundations upon which you have built yourselves up crumble beneath your feet! All is dust and ashes, rubble piled up in heaps! Oh what a bitter thing this is, unending sadness, anguish and pain; My own beloved have departed from Me, My own children have gone far astray! 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My people, The Mashiach is your help and your shield; YahuShua, whom you call Jesus and Christ, Is The Rock of your Salvation, The One who is and was and is to come; For The Father and The Son are One... Therefore, embrace Me in My Mercy, And receive of Me in My Great Love. Thus says The Lord, your Redeemer: I am indeed coming down to shake the heavens and the earth, to move all from its place; to bring forth that which was hidden and to reveal that which was misplaced;[1] to open that which was shut and to shut that which was opened. Therefore prepare, My people, for the time has come; yes, today is the day of salvation! Go forth, beloved ones, and set all these crooked paths straight; regain the line, prepare and watch. For the leaves of the fig tree are upon its branches; summer is near![2] Again I say, watch. For The One who ascended is about to descend... 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Bow before The King, therefore; Humble yourselves before The Holy One of Israel... Lay yourselves upon the altar and be broken Atop The Stone, and it shall bear you up; Yet stand defiant, and you shall be crushed Beneath the weight of The Mountain[6]... For I do not change, says The Lord." ~ "Lo, multitudes of idols fill every corner! Both the believer and unbeliever bow down together and serve their gods! ALL nations worship the works of their own hands, for they have placed their own creations and the love of their own ideas above their Creator! False deities abound, while science and corrupt religion rule over them! Mere theories become truth and doctrine, and lawlessness is widely accepted! And behold, the love of money has become their new taskmaster, and materialism their god! Sins of every kind imaginable flow through every land! 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For they are a foolish people, a most arrogant generation, a corrupt people heavy-laden with sin; a people who make many lofty assertions without knowledge, a wholly ignorant people who reject the knowledge of God, yet embrace every corrupt theory created by men of science, a people who know not their right hand from their left! Says The Lord."
Can God make a boulder so heavy that he can't lift it? Can God make a square with 3 sides? Can God add 1+1 and get the answer 5? God can only do what is logically possible. To answer your question, no because Jesus didn't have a microwave.
burritos contain both meat and cheese and the combination of milk and meat is not kosher. Jesus was a religious Jew and according to Christians kept the law perfectly so, therefore kept kosher, so no, he couldn't eat it.
Veridicus Maximus that's a straw man definition of faith. you have faith that your friend will pay your money back because of his past actions. You believe the doctor won't kill you because you believe he's well-trained and has experience doing surgery. you might start to lose your faith so to speak when your emotions take over and you start to panic.... faith is the art of holding on to what your mind has once logically accepted based on facts, despite changing moods. the best Christian writers will tell you that if you believe in something for absolutely no good reasons then you're stupid person. faith has to be formulated on reason and logic or else it will change on a whim.
If it is possible.... It can and will happen. Just because it will take an eternity to roll those dice, doesn't mean that you won't ever get 70 6s in a row. Imagine this... You wouldn't be here unless the universe was perfect like it is. There was literally eternity for those dice to roll and roll and roll until those 70 6s finally came into play. It's not like "Well the odds are low and it will take more than 10 minutes to get 70 6s in a row so that means its impossible". This isn't logic, this is just a feeling, no proof.
And that eternity was created by? Science doesn't know. And we're talking about more than a pair of dice. We're talking about Everything...not Trillions of things, but a much larger number, all happening at the right time. And it has CONTINUED to happen for 14 billion years, with no errors. Do you believe it was just a lucky accident??? CAN trillions of dice turn up sixes at the same time..even if you have forever? Can they continue doing it for billions of years? iS that possible?
@@bondojoe8161 what you're suggesting is a paradox. Because if nothing can be created from nothing, which seems like what you are suggesting, then god can not have come from nothing can it? To assert that there is a god simply because we can't understand what's around us is astonishing. Just because science doesn't know why something happens doesn't mean that there is no logical explanation that has not been discovered yet. Science is a field that is always in the present, we are always learning more about the universe, and many things we are learning today would have been chalked up to divine intervention just a few centuries ago.
@@dalidirani2740 GOD has always existed. We know that the Universe was created. Scientists agree on that point. 14 billion years ago. But just SUPPOSE that the universe was always here or created by something else. Surely you don't think it was a giant, CONTINUOUS accident, do you? NOTHING that exists on earth exists without intelligence. Name ONE THING that is organized and created itself. Did your TV build itself? Your car, your house? Did any of the parts in those things invent themselves, or happen by accident? Organization REQUIRES intelligent direction. Anyone should be able to grasp that.
@Erik Hampshire I love that you guys speak of it as if it is fact, is it possible, yes, is there reason to believe it’s complete and utter bullshit, yes. Have a good life tho
There's also the possibility that there's only ONE possible configuration. Just saying "If things were different, then things would be different" is NOT an argument for god. It's not an argument for ANYTHING, it's just a statement.
TheGqppleHero Science has proven bible wrong multiple times and just to quickly prove god a myth i will ask you this question, If god can do anything can he create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it? and if he can than lifting the rock is something he cannot do.
If we consider a perfect dice, a perfect floor, perfect gravitation, no air resistence and a truly random throw, it should be the same. There is probably way more to that, but I think you get the Idea
Excellent video depicting an example for an argument from ignorance. "I don't understand how the cosmic laws of physics worked towards allowing life to start, therefore, gawd did it"
then how do we explain where the energy from atoms comes from (reffering to the moving particals) Because after all physics tells us that nothing can be moved without an external force,but it is. ? If you actually look it up and keep Your mind open it is not that absurd. There is obviously not any proofs which is why its still is a theory, same goes With big bang. Big bang can be explained by Logic to a certain extent, but if Your read more on that as well you will find out there is alot of the theory that is blank or not fully explained because they cant explain it. My view on it is that organized religion is a misconception of god. We can not simply believe that god is a man/women/dog or creature, but I do believe that there is a god. The Source of energy, and a creator. And in that case where did the universe come from, based on Logic we simply know that there cant be anything if it is not created.
Sorry, but there is proof of where the energy from the atoms comes from; it is explained in the law of conservation of energy, where if we trace a long chain of events, the energy on earth is fueled by the nuclear reactions from the sun, derived from more nuclear reactions going back billions of years, ultimately starting from the big bang. We don’t know what was before the big bang, or what triggered it, or why it went "bang" as the evidence suggests, but that does not mean “then god did it”. You are just confirming what I stated about the argument from ignorance. Might as well say that my cat has secret superpowers and he went back in time to create everything we know and established the laws of physics; I will accept this as true until I find more tangible evidence that shows otherwise. Do you see how silly that sounds? I agree that we cannot explain everything, but saying it’s only a theory is a misunderstanding that many people fall for. A scientific theory is not a “guess”, an “idea” or a “hunch”, like is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed, preferably using a written, pre-defined, protocol of observations and experiments. It’s okay to say “I don’t know”, and due to time constrains (billions of years), we might never find the answer; we can just study the evidence, test it, make predictable models and document it. I know that it sucks not knowing everything, but we shouldn’t make shit up just because we don’t know, especially giving credit to a myth from the Bronze Age.
Elmer Homero I fully understand that, and i dont agree With organized religion but i do fully understand why People are searching for a spiritual life and an after life. It might not be true, it might be true (eventhough its not likely). Thats why we Call it belief, isnt it. I do not see a problem With People believing in a creator, but i do have a problem With following man made rules which was made for Power and Money. I personally believe that there is a creator and that Jesus was a messanger as ive said. I know how that sounds if you base it on Logic but its simply a way to hope for something more after im and my loved once are gone. I do not hold that belief to make less of my life which some would have if you would follow some scripture like the qua ran or the bible. I did not mean to say that atoms are moved by "god" but we will see in time, i do think there is a Source for this energy however, and untill we can scienticly prove that there is no creator. You can Call me ignorant for believing that but i simply do not see anything negative about it, nor would i live my life differently then if I would not believe it.
Martin Ellingsen - I agree with your point of view on religion, but I would go a step further and say that religion is the cancer of society; fuck religion, it's about time to ditch those fairytales. It baffles me not completely knowing how everything started, and I hope that someday we can find out. In the meantime I will keep searching for the truth through scientific evidence, logic, and reason. Not stupid dice and invalid arguments appealing to myths.
Elmer Homero religion and organized religion is not the same thing. The difference lies here, either you believe in a god , a spiritual life or just something bigger for the questions we cant answer. If you follow a organized religion however you follow man made rules, a man made society, a social club if you like. The belief of a bigger power or an almighty god is not negative, it is actually physiologically proven that we as humans has the urge for some grand plan or purpose as a concept, not only in this life but whatever comes after. How organized religion has used it to gain money and power is toxic, not the belief in itself.
If I spill a jar of marbles on the ground, the odds that the marbles spill out *exactly* as they do are probably 1 billion to 1. Therefore, god spilled the marbles.
But if every marble had a dot on it, you would never be able to spill the jar of marbles and have every dot pointing upwards and lining up in a straight line. You could spill a jar of marbles trillions of times and get different results, and everyone of those results have the same probability of occurring, but only one probability exists where they are all perfectly lined up and pointing upwards. Is one marble off by a millimeter? Doesn't count. Is one of the marbles pointing to a difference of one degree? Doesn't count.
Solidatermx - Oh so we're the "all dots perfectly up" universe are we? Of course we would think that. The point you're missing is this: there are likely billions of ways that the universe *could* have come about, each of which would have given rise to different conditions, different chemicals, different elements, different everything. No doubt life would be impossible in many of these universes. But it's also extremely likely that different *kinds* of life could have arisen in many (if not all) of these possible universes. And those kinds of life are no more "perfectly aligned and finely tuned" than ours. They're just the only kind of life that can arise in the conditions of their universes, just like we're the only kind of life that can arise in ours. So yes, our DNA-based, oxygen breathing, temperature sensitive, highly lubricated kind of life would probably be an impossible results of the majority of the millions of ways the universe could have come about, but a different kind of life would do just fine. And that different kind of life would probably spend the first few thousand years of their existence rejoicing in how "finely tuned" their universe is.Yeah, finely tuned for *their* kind of life. Not ours. In other words, no matter how the marbles fall, a religious marble will observe the pattern it's in and say "wow, this pattern is SO special, all the marbles fell in a finely tuned way so that this exact pattern happened. It's a miracle!" While a scientific marble will say "Yeah, well, as much as you like this particular pattern, there are literally billions of other patterns that could have occurred if the marbles had fallen differently."
+Solidatermx What if your marbles had a thousand dots on it, each dot corresponding to a number. No matter what the outcome is of you rolling those marbles, it had a very small chance of happening. The problem with this man's argument is that, even though rolling 70 sixes in a row has a probability of 1 in 10^55, every other possible outcome has a probability of 1 in 10^55. I f you rolled a completely random number every time, 70 times, that order would still only have a probability of 10^55. If he predicted that he would roll 70 sixes, and then rolled seventy sixes, that would be amazing, but it would only be amazing because we have something to compare it to. We have nothing to compare our current universe to, because this is the only universe we know.
Scott K your opinion doesn't matter because you're just a collective of neurological activity which is based on the matter that creates it which is governed by the fixed laws of the universe. my opinion also doesn't matter. you have no right to be upset about anyone having a different opinion than you, and I have no right to be upset about anyone have been different opinion than me just plain out but our brain tell this to... and because of that we don't really have any free will... just biological robots responding to stimuli. and your long, it was a waste of time because if there's nothing neyond this reality none of this matters at all.... all the good or bad you wont matter. so since you don't believe in God or anything else do yourself a favor and stop wasting time because this is all the life you have and as I said none of our opinions matter anyways because we don't really control what we think.
DesertMarine - "your opinion doesn't matter because you're just a collective of neurological activity which is based on the matter that creates it which is governed by the fixed laws of the universe" It's really sad that that you think the absence of a divine being completely strips humanity's goals and priorities of their importance. Are you saying that the alleviation of suffering, the fostering of well-being and happiness, and the prospering of humanity are meaningless and arbitrary if such things don't align with the will of a divine being? Are you saying that in a godless world, we might as well let children die of hunger or at the hands of ethnic cleansers? Apparently, something only "matters" to you if an all-powerful dictator tells you it should. At which point it doesn't *actually* matter to you; you're just following instructions and/or hoping to reap reward/avoid punishments. If god told you that eating crackers and wine mattered, you'd do it religiously... oh wait... "you have no right to be upset about anyone having a different opinion than you" Who's upset? I'm just over here making reasonable arguments. Unlike most religious folks, I don't get spooled up and defensive when someone disagrees with me. I'll make an earnest attempt to try and convince them of my reasoning, but that doesn't mean I'm taking the disagreement personally. It's not like I'm going to embark on a crusade or anything. "because of that we don't really have any free will... just biological robots responding to stimuli" Yeah maybe. But since when does something being depressing or inconvenient make it untrue? Cancer is really depressing and inconvenient, but that doesn't make it fictional.
ztlabraptor211 odds rule everything around us, and 1 x 10 to the 55 is not pathetic. It is unbelievably definite. Looks like somebody got an F in math class.
mohannad bakain you're assuming our comprehension of math can be used to completely understand the universe and it's origins. This is very foolish and narcissistic. We're animals, intelligent animals, but still animals and there are things we don't know and things we'll never know. The fact that you're using math, a human construct, to explain the unknowable natural origins of the universe (especially considering we have proof of the age of the universe and evolution that contradict your mathematics) is simply bigoted. As well, since you brought it up, what are the odds that a giant omnipotent eternal creator that there's no evidence for and nobody has ever seen or heard is real? What are the odds a woman was made from a mans rib? What are the odds you're religion is the correct one out of the 5000 that exist? Grow up kid.
+mohannad bakain - "1 x 10 to the 55 is not pathetic. It is unbelievably definite. Looks like somebody got an F in math class." I'm guessing that somebody would be you, then, if you think that somehow justifies a belief in God. Tell you what, thoroughly shuffle a standard deck of 52 cards. Now, what are the odds of that particular deck happening? Is it higher or lower than the one in 10^55 odds you mentioned above? I'll give you a moment. No cheating... OK, the answer is the odds of that particular deck happening is approximately one in 8x10^67. In other words, it's a number with a dozen more decimal places than the one you're so fond of mentioning. In fact, if you actually did shuffle a deck, the odds are that that's the first time a deck has ever been shuffled in that particular order in all of history. That's just how improbable that deck is. Really! So, is that deck you shuffled a miracle of God? Or is it simply the product of random chance? This is why long odds do not equal God, and why you shouldn't be accusing others of failing math.
HiEv the resulting deck would be chance. But try choosing a specific combination. On deck of the 8 x 10^67 decks. Would it show up? No. That is the point. Chance doesn't work on that big of a number, that big of a scale. Still an F I presume.
A better analogy for the existence of our universe would be shuffling a deck of cards. Each time you shuffle a deck of cards, it is extremely unlikely that that exact combination has ever been seen before or will ever be seen again. The number of possible combinations is 52 factorial, or over 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. So the chance of you getting that order of cards from a shuffle is 1 in 8*10^67. But just because that exact combination was very unlikely doesn’t mean that the cards were placed in that order intentionally. Yes, the chance of you rolling a six 70 times in a row with a dice is very unlikely, but so is any other set of numbers you get from rolling dice 70 times in a row. Roll dice 70 times in a row yourself, it doesn’t matter what numbers you get be it 5,6,4,3,6,1,2,4,3…. It’s still a one in 10^55 chance of getting that exact combination. And you got that combination, even though it was so unlikely. This video is intentionally deceptive, and the argument itself makes no sense if you know anything about probability.
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The argument is that there was a specific order of cards being shuffled that required existence of life. And it occurred. Not that a random shuffle was required.
@@abiwalala exactly..! The thing is they explain the origin of life on the planet using the same logic..like the requirements to create a cell or a universe are just some random long irrelevant numbers.
I think the point being made is that the random long incoherent chaotic string of numbers produces nothing. There is no point to consider a potential designer willing order.
Trillion is the highest colloquial number. Nobody repeats the word "quadrillion" to refer to an incredibly large number, nor quintillion nor sextillion nor septillion, etc. etc. etc.
@Hand Sanitizer Do you unironically use numbers higher than a trillion to illustrate an incredibly large number? I don't, and I don't think I've ever heard someone do so.
well i imagine it doesn't mean it's not true either. the point is that no one should be ridiculed for placing a bet on something that no one has a concrete provable answer to.
Lack of evidence against god does not indicate his existence. The burden of proof lies on the person taking the affirmative position. Even if this video accurately described the probability of the universe, it is still not conclusive evidence for the existence of a god. The logical default position is atheism, and the only reason it isn't is because religion has existed longer than the scientific method.
He knows that lack of evidence against god does not indicate his existence. He cleary states near the end of the video that his purposes were only to prove that no one should be ridiculed for neither believing in god nor being an atheist, as there is no indefinite evidence for both of them.
No way. His stance is CLEARLY that the odds are too high for the universe to have been created without god. He sates this several times throughout the video. As proof, I submit to you the fact that at 3:25 he claims that someone "loaded the dice." Furthermore, being an atheist does not require evidence because it is the negative position, therefore stating that atheism has equally as much evidence as theism is a nonsensical statement that fundamentally makes no sense.
Yeah, there are a lot of flaws in the video, and some things he says contradict what he previously says... plus comparing the probability of a continious dice roll to the probability that the universe was created by chance is stupid altogether.
There are so many fallacies in this video that I have trouble deciding where to begin. 1) If the Universe is "fine-tuned" for life, then why is more than 99.999% of the Universe inhospitable to it? We can't exist (yet) in the middle of stars, or in the vast vacuum that fills the voids between the galaxies. 2) There is the assumption that his "70 rolls of sixes" is the only way that permits life, and we don't know this. As an example, a royal flush in cards is very lucky, but we could say that a duce, four, five, and nine of the same suit has the same odds of coming up. So, the arbitrary rules we assign to poker hands is what's important. We have no other examples of life beyond Earrh, so he makes sweeping assumptions from one example. 3) If God exists, then where does God come from? If God has always existed, then why not save a step and decide that the Universe has always existed? If the origin of God is an unanswerable question, then why not skip a step and decide that the origin of the Universe is an unanswerable question? 4) We may not understand many of the details about the origin of the Universe . . . but that doesn't mean that we should automatically invoke God just because we're unhappy that we don't know everything. To say that only God understands things that we don't know is very arrogant. 5) Even if I choose to be very pious and deeply religious . . . I would still be screwed out of Eternity when I die. There are--perhaps--over a hundred different sects in Christianity alone. While I'm sure that there are a few exceptions, each sect claims to have the correct way to worship God, while the competing sects are leading their flock astray . . . and their congregants are destined for Hell or eternal death. This means that out of the hundred or so sects, I have overwhelming odds of choosing the wrong one and going to Hell. The situation becomes much worse if I consider Judaism, Islam, and Buddhism (among many other religions). Atheism is a perfectly reasonable (and even comforting) choice under these circumstances. 6) Creationists and Biblical literalists hold up The Bible for answers about the origin of the Universe, and so forth . . . because it's true. In 2 Chronicles 4:2 we find the Biblical view is that pi (the circumference of a circle divided by it's diameter) is exactly equal to 3 . . . except we know that pi is equal to 3.1415926 . . . , and that this an irrational number. Even if The Bible only sees the first digit as being important, then at least the irrational and transcendental nature of pi might have been alluded to. The Biblical literalist will get irritated with this point, and claim that The Bible isn't a mathematical textbook, and I quite agree. However, this also means that The Bible isn't a textbook on geology, biology, anthropology, medicine, and/or physics either. 7) Biblical literalism can kill. Lightning was seen as being from God, so it was sacreligious and heretical to put lightning rods on church steeples (often the highest building in town). So--because God would never strike a church with lightning--this was the safest place to store gunpowder. The Catholic church in Brescia, Italy, exploded and killed 2,000 people when lightning hit the steeple, and the 90 metric tons of gunpowder detonated and blew up 1/6 of the town. This happened on August 18, 1769, well after Benjamin Franklin invented the lightning rod and was pressuring society to put them on church steeples (to protect the bell ringers). 8) If religion can modify Biblical literalism to accommodate lightning rods, then why not accommodate physics, Big Bang comology, evolution, and LGBTQ people? In any case, I've tried to give a civil, reasoned response to this video, and I hope people reply. Thank you for your time and consideration in reviewing this lengthy post. I wish everyone peace.
So do you think that life is a scary coincidence and that since earth had the most precise conditions for life to flourish is why we are here,and if so is math also a coincidence since it explains certainty which is highly unlikely if we just happened to come into existence, no offense to your point just curious....?
@@imded9208Earth doesn’t have the most precise conditions for life. It has experienced at least 5 mass extinction events, and natural disasters still occur. The habitable zone around the sun is also approximately 120million kilometres or 75 million miles wide, so not a small area. Math is also purely a theoretical thing that we developped to explain things, and so, it does.
Going back to your point of atheism being a comfort for you over religion, I totally get that and respect that. For me however, my comfort stems from believing in a God, but not believing in religion, I think the universe is too vast for a god to have such a tight and down to earth per say, I do believe in following great judgment and overall morality (the only thing I believe to be bigger than god) but I do not believe in a set religion, therefore giving me comfort that my afterlife (hopefully) will not be spent in eternal hell.
@@imded9208 The point is that humans aren't special, we just fallaciously think we are. Do you really think a god took an eternity to create something as useless as humans? You do realize that you have an ego that forces you to put yourself in the center of the universe? We are seriously goofy. The odds of any particular thing existing are astronomical. What are the odds of goofiness existing?
wtfuredead m - ya? Like the amazeball-spectacular mosquito, killing most people on earth every year, left and right, christians, muslims and everyone else. Or what about poop? If it is a creation of god, as what it is since your god created everything on earth even your intestines, why the fuk did he not make it rainbow coloured, strawberry flavored, and non lethal to eat? Naah, keep you blue eyed world creation vision for yourself..
Mikkel Christensen Those are some great questions! First of all, let's talk about relativism(in a more ordinary way). Think about a world where everything is rainbow-like pleasant. Pretty boring, ah? We need that delta of good and bad things in our lives. Therefore it makes sense for the "Engineer" of this Universe to allow for poop to exist in such an unpleasant state. Also, this setup with such various experiences allow our consciousness to learn and grow. I can see where your rejection comes from, and is perfectly understandable. You expect for this God to give milk and honey to everyone in His creation. And it doesn't. And that makes people really pissed off! So there must not be any God because things are so bad around us!(of course, that is pretty hypocritical coming from me, as i had a fairly easy life so far) About that mosquito tho... i really don't know what to say. I might come up with a bogus explanation, but i expect for you to understand the other things, as usually atheist have a little more brains than your average religious person(i am also not agreeing with any religion, but i see they have at least some purposes)
The fundamental flaw in these calculations ( that the makers of this video are well aware of) is that we are dealing with either infinite dice or an incomprehensible large number of dice .
There is no flaw. It depends how you are looking at the problem. It simply shows the basic truth that the odds for this universe to exists are very low.
Doesn't the point you've just proven make the fact of an existence like this that much more improbable by chance? If there are an infinite or incomprehensible number of dice, then we simply shouldn't exist, right? But we do, and all of the rules and laws in the universe with us (which each have their own set of incomprehensible dice)
I've just rolled a 6. followed by a 5. followed by a 4, followed by a 3, followed by a 2 and , finally,.. a 1. This proves I am a three dimensionally inverted duck billed platypus.
The pont is not the coincidence, te jpoint is that make sense (that why you identify the coincidence in first place), i mean, is not you roll the dice everytime a 6, and then a 4, and then you roll a black hole, and then an alien platypus, and then a 76543456, the point is you got a making sense numbers not a nonsense. And yes you can argue that there are different universes with diferent laws, but now you will be in science fiction, and not actual science, having more faith than actual believers.
Are you literally making a joke about dream on a video with nothing to do with dream other than it has chances. You probably think dream is the best player lmao.
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@@harambey Oh God, praise and thanksgiving be to you as it should be for the majesty of your face and the greatness of your authority Praise be to God. God chooses the hearts of the people he guides. Mentioning the mercy of Allah in his creatures. Allah has said:” All praise is to Allah, who has sent down upon His Servant Mohammed (peace and blessing of God are upon him)the Book and has not made therein any deviance”. It is my pleasure to invite you to worship Allah alone. I am eager to start by mentioning Surah Al-Fatihah, which is the greatest surah in the Quran. “1-In the Name of Allah-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.2- All praise is for Allah-Lord of all worlds, 3-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. 4-Master of the Day of Judgment. 5-You ˹alone˺ we worship and You ˹alone˺ we ask for help. 6-Guide us along the Straight Path, 7-the Path of those You have blessed-not those You are displeased with, or those who are astray.”. As our God revealed a number of heavenly books and messengers to invite people to worship him, we must read these heavenly books and see the stories of the messengers and look at the miracles of our gracious God to make certain that this is the God which deserves to be worshiped. in brief: The Holy Quran is the miracle of miracles; our God has revealed it as the last heavenly book. In addition, the Holy Quran has a lot of scientific miracles that the human brain needs to make certain that this book is from Allah( the creator). the only recommendation I can serve humanity with is to read the holy Quran the words of our God. check if the miracle is really there. This is a brief article about some of the scientific miracles that are present in the Holy Quran from more than 1400 years ago. Just check and see the wonderful comparison between religions that have been made by Doctor Zakir naik. He gathered the humans from a lot of places with a lot of religion to ask him about faith matters. His videos are found on TH-cam. Thank you for your listening brother. if you want to know some of the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran, look at this small article. 1drv.ms/b/s!AmL9SYpFyLhJaiDZWMe57FtRN5w?e=Ld3m8X
@august opus Oh God, praise and thanksgiving be to you as it should be for the majesty of your face and the greatness of your authority Praise be to God. God chooses the hearts of the people he guides. Mentioning the mercy of Allah in his creatures. Allah has said:” All praise is to Allah, who has sent down upon His Servant Mohammed (peace and blessing of God are upon him)the Book and has not made therein any deviance”. It is my pleasure to invite you to worship Allah alone. I am eager to start by mentioning Surah Al-Fatihah, which is the greatest surah in the Quran. “1-In the Name of Allah-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.2- All praise is for Allah-Lord of all worlds, 3-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. 4-Master of the Day of Judgment. 5-You ˹alone˺ we worship and You ˹alone˺ we ask for help. 6-Guide us along the Straight Path, 7-the Path of those You have blessed-not those You are displeased with, or those who are astray.”. As our God revealed a number of heavenly books and messengers to invite people to worship him, we must read these heavenly books and see the stories of the messengers and look at the miracles of our gracious God to make certain that this is the God which deserves to be worshiped. in brief: The Holy Quran is the miracle of miracles; our God has revealed it as the last heavenly book. In addition, the Holy Quran has a lot of scientific miracles that the human brain needs to make certain that this book is from Allah( the creator). the only recommendation I can serve humanity with is to read the holy Quran the words of our God. check if the miracle is really there. This is a brief article about some of the scientific miracles that are present in the Holy Quran from more than 1400 years ago. Just check and see the wonderful comparison between religions that have been made by Doctor Zakir naik. He gathered the humans from a lot of places with a lot of religion to ask him about faith matters. His videos are found on TH-cam. Thank you for your listening brother. if you want to know some of the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran, look at this small article. 1drv.ms/b/s!AmL9SYpFyLhJaiDZWMe57FtRN5w?e=Ld3m8X
@@maxotto9877 Oh God, praise and thanksgiving be to you as it should be for the majesty of your face and the greatness of your authority Praise be to God. God chooses the hearts of the people he guides. Mentioning the mercy of Allah in his creatures. Allah has said:” All praise is to Allah, who has sent down upon His Servant Mohammed (peace and blessing of God are upon him)the Book and has not made therein any deviance”. It is my pleasure to invite you to worship Allah alone. I am eager to start by mentioning Surah Al-Fatihah, which is the greatest surah in the Quran. “1-In the Name of Allah-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.2- All praise is for Allah-Lord of all worlds, 3-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. 4-Master of the Day of Judgment. 5-You ˹alone˺ we worship and You ˹alone˺ we ask for help. 6-Guide us along the Straight Path, 7-the Path of those You have blessed-not those You are displeased with, or those who are astray.”. As our God revealed a number of heavenly books and messengers to invite people to worship him, we must read these heavenly books and see the stories of the messengers and look at the miracles of our gracious God to make certain that this is the God which deserves to be worshiped. in brief: The Holy Quran is the miracle of miracles; our God has revealed it as the last heavenly book. In addition, the Holy Quran has a lot of scientific miracles that the human brain needs to make certain that this book is from Allah( the creator). the only recommendation I can serve humanity with is to read the holy Quran the words of our God. check if the miracle is really there. This is a brief article about some of the scientific miracles that are present in the Holy Quran from more than 1400 years ago. Just check and see the wonderful comparison between religions that have been made by Doctor Zakir naik. He gathered the humans from a lot of places with a lot of religion to ask him about faith matters. His videos are found on TH-cam. Thank you for your listening brother. if you want to know some of the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran, look at this small article. 1drv.ms/b/s!AmL9SYpFyLhJaiDZWMe57FtRN5w?e=Ld3m8X
This all hinges on his assumption this universe is the “first time” We have no way of knowing if we are the 1st or last attempt. We’re only going to know about the the time when it actually worked.
And we don't know if another universe with a different set of constants might also produce life. Theists keep repeating that the our constants are so "finely tuned" that life wouldn't be possible any other way. Well, we simply don't know that.
@@dhruvmaslekar Because the universe does not only consist of one place. It is infinite, so, the "rolling of dice" could happen at infinite places in the universe all at once. But he failed to mention that.
@@dhruvmaslekar i do not claim to know that it is not the first time. The person in the video makes the assumption that it is, but we do not have any way of confirming if that is true or not. Since he is the one relying on the assumption that this is the first time, he is the one who has to prove that assumption. If he can't do that, he is just shifting the question from "do you believe in god?" To "do you believe this is the first time a universe has existed?", and we are back where we started: an assumption which one can believe to be true or not, with no proof either way.
Yeah, just like creationists twisting the words of a document (the bible) made thousands of years ago to explain how the world came to be. This instead of just accepting that we don't know yet
I always loved the "It's too improbable so I'm just going to assume it's actually impossible." shit argument. See, what people fail to realize is the reason we even have winners in the lottery in the first place. Imagine if every lottery was played with just one ticket per drawing, what are the chances then? Unbelievably low. So why do we win? Because there isn't just one ticket, there's a number of tickets that's comparable to the extremely low chance of winning. Effectively turning a 1 in millions chance into something much more likely like 1/5 that someone will win during a drawing. The chance of a planet that supports abiogenesis is extremely low, but what you must realize is the shear number of planets out there that are essentially tickets in this drawing of the lottery of life. There are plenty of tickets being played constantly to give life a damn good chance. So stop with the whole "It's impossible because it's improbable." nonsense.
Yes, but the argument is all about the universe as a whole, or at least one variety of the argument. Having a space with stable physical properties and multiple planetary systems may well lead to the development of life on some of those planets, but when we take the reasoning to the universe, it is not so simple, especially since the number of non-life-permitting universes will be much, much greater than the ones that would permit life. The lottery analogy would not hold in this case, unless there are multiple universes, or a law that necessitates physical laws that are life-permitting. It would be more like John Leslie's analogy, whereby a group of professional shooters in a prison execute thousands of prisoners per day, and then it turns out that one of the prisoners actually survives the ordeal. Wouldn't it be surprising that he survived? It is an interesting argument, but depending on how it is put forward, it can easily crumble.
ThePSXHive Yes but an infinite number of universes cancels out any chance no matter how low. If you play the lottery with infinite tickets, you are guaranteed to win no matter how low the chance is when playing only one ticket.
DENYOURMAKER lol, I guess by your logic, no one ever wins the lottery. No one ever finds diamonds. No one ever does anything or has anything happen to them when those things have really low chances because low chance = impossible. XD
This didn't start off too bad to be honest, but it got progressively worse as the video went on, so let's break it down bit by bit: 1:47-1:52 "What if you applied that thinking to us? What are the odds of us being here?" What indeeed; first of all, you'd be making the assumption that there is only one trial, that there has only ever been one universe and that there was a definite "start" to what exists (which itself is a very bold claim), and that this universe is the first and only to have ever existed. AND you need make the assumption that only one possible scenario exists where life could exist as well, but I don't see how you would quantify this. But MORE importantly, and irrespective of the accuracy of this statistical argument, your argument isn't cohesive - let's posit, for instance, that the cosmic dice were rolled and they DIDN'T roll in our favour. Then, we wouldn't be here. The way you argue seems to take for granted that we SHOULD be here and that assuming we came by chance is unreasonable, but this itself is an assumption I don't think anybody has the right to make. IF the dice were rolled and did not roll in our favour then we would not be here; us being here is only evidence that, however the dice rolled, they were rolled in such a way that we could live. I'd only be compelled to believe in "intelligent design" if then dice were rolled such that life COULDN'T exist, but yet here we are; then, and only then, might I have some reason to believe there was any form of design involved. 2:00 how did you get this figure for the (un)likelihood of the universe expanding at a rate suitable for the precipitation of elements? How did you quantify the number of possible scenarios branching from the big bang and then how did you quantify how many of them suit the state of our present universe? How do you know that the universe could ever have started expanding at a different rate? What if the rate of the expansion of the universe is intrinsic to itself? This seems like a bold claim and you've evidenced nothing to warrant it. 2:32 again, "first time"... you said yourself, if the expansion of the universe was any slower (and I'm taking you for granted on this point), then it would collapse back in on itself... so let's posit that it did this, what happens? Well, the universe collapsed in on itself, supposedly to a point, and that sounds like where the big bang started in the first place... I'm deeply concerned at this point that you're comfortable asserting that this is the first time a universe has existed. 3:12 and this is where people critically fail to understand statistics "it can't be chance!". Yes, it can. The odds of you rolling 70 of any given face consecutively are undoubtedly low, but pretend you roll a dice 70 times. There will be an ordered sequence of faces that you rolled that is equally have likely to popped up as ANY other sequence; so when you roll that dice 70 times, the sequence you rolled was exactly this unlikely to have been rolled and yet, you will no doubt have rolled it. 70 sixes is equally as likely as every other distinct ordered roll, and to claim that you can't roll this by chance is to claim the same thing about every other roll (since every outcome is equally likely), which is to claim that you can't have any set of results at all... which is, of course, ridiculous. 3:16 again, we don't know how many trials there were, and secondly, we don't have to assume it was chance. We are here, we exist, and we can each observe for ourselves that we exist (cogito, ergo sum) so necessarily the universe must have evolved in such a way to permit the formation of something that can think... at what point is chance involved? I can observe that it happened, and sure maybe it turns out that it was incredibly unlikely to happen but, ultimately, it has already happened. I am not standing at the big bang predicting it will happen, I am standing here and now and observing that it must have (or rather, something must have happened). 3:25 pretty much the same mistake here as you've been making the whole way through; you're assuming one trial, same mistakes as at 1:47, would be more inclined to believe in a god if things DIDN'T make sense, etc. Also, VERY ironic that you should use The Creation of Adam which is itself a critique of religion haha 3:41 begging the question a bit here with "speculative other theory", which again is ironic because you're presenting a speculative other theory... also, the Many Worlds Interpretation is a current theory for Quantum Mechanics which describes not infinite, but very very many different realities in which we are only one. And there is evidence for this theory, it wouldn't have gained much traction otherwise, and to my understanding there is research being done presently to verify or disprove the MWI. 3:55 And again, since we have evidence for believing the MWI (not proof, but no less experimental evidence which gives favour to the MWI), it is far less a "faith position" than it is a gander at a complete theory for Quantum Mechanics. Positing that an intelligent being set the world into motion from the start is a faith position, because it is not possible to evidence a claim like this. 4:03 "perfectly reasonable conclusion" and yet, the primary reason people have for believing in your God is ultimately because of a text, no doubt many times edited and revised between here and it's origins... reasonable means you have reason for believing something; as of typing this comment, I believe that I will post it because I am in the process of writing this comment and intend to post it. That is my reason for believing something that I believe, but I see no reason for your beliefs. But really, the worst thing about this video is your palming it off as rational argument by masking your logical inconsistencies; I honestly don't know what compels you to do this, but it's bad for people. Sheit, I've just wasted a good ten or fifteen minutes writing this. We should all be more productive members of society than this, especially you who made the video.
This is what I like to see. An actual argument against the video, instead of commenting on the guy's punchable face, or pedantically mocking how he says "dice."
Yet, if there are countless expansions that happened, are happening and will keep happening in the future besides the one that created our so ideal universe - then this doesn’t really apply at all. The total expanse of all existence may be as old as is imaginable, therefore the dice could have been rolled for a long enough period of time (in the grand scheme of all that there is including outside our own universe) for this “perfect” roll to occur and create ours.
if the big bang created space matter and time all in one from a single point like einstein says do you think there is somthing outside of that space matter and time?
@@sergeifradindelarenaudiere4618 completely theoraetical so bassicly the same as me believing in god but there is more proof for god than multiple universes and that belief just leaves more questions
At first we thought the Earth was flat, scientists disagreed. Then we thought there was no America, scientists disagreed. We thought Earth was the only planet, scientists disagreed. We thought Sun was different from stars, scientists disagreed. We thought everything revolves around the Earth, scientists disagreed. See the pattern? We think there is a god, scientists disagree. How many times did science manage to prove something and how many times did religion manage to prove something? I'll stick with science, thanks!
Thegreenbeanfightingmachine It doesn't but is most likely to be true. I imagined number x, can you guess which one it is? A little help: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,x I think logic, and following a pattern can help you very much.
In short, we have a low chance of happening on accident. Saved you 4m 26-30sec Edit: Guys stop fighting we can all just go out for dinner or hug it out or something
@@prototype014 Ever seen an iphone created by itself ?? Human cell or dna is even more complicated 100000X more thats why we humans can create an iphone and not an human cell we are limited beings
This is such ludicrous philosophical trickery. You yourself admit in your dice analogy that, after rolling a dice for long enough, you’d get 70 sixes in a row. You SAID it. Therefore, by YOUR OWN argument, after enough “attempts” at starting a universe, you’d get one just like this one. The length of time it would take for that to happen is likely to be incomprehensible to our limited human minds, but just because it’s hard for us to conceptualise it, doesn’t mean it’s not true. History has been filled with these ridiculous arguments that say “oh the universe is just TOO complex to be a fluke” because we are intellectually incapable of grasping the scale of the numbers involved. It’s human-centred arrogance of the highest order, and then to make the jump from “oh well, I can’t grasp it” to “therefore God must have done it” is such a ridiculous leap.
He knows that lack of evidence against god does not indicate his existence. He cleary states near the end of the video that his purposes were only to prove that no one should be ridiculed for neither believing in god nor being an atheist, as there is no indefinite evidence for both of them.
GeoVaporizer atheism is a lack of belief in a god/gods, not a belief that there is no god/gods. Thus, a lack of belief in something is valid, so long as the belief you lack isn't proven correct. Essentially, until a god is proven to exist, lacking a belief in god is valid, because nothing points to it. Its just speculation. Pastafarians (the flying spaghetti monster) may be correct and Christians may be wrong, but until it is proven, what reason do you have to believe other than threats from a book and some internal emotional turmoil?
No. Firstly it would be pretty strange for us to find ourselves in a universe we couldn't exist in. So of course we can exist here, otherwise we wouldn't be here. So if you have a scenario where you have life being unlikely to arise on any particular planet then you'd expect a scenarios where you have a gigantic universe, with countless trillions of stars and planets, under such scenario some of them are bound to have the conditions for life to arise. We can appeal to the natural world for possible solutions because we do know that the natural world exists and it has demonstrated profound explanatory power to explain things we previously didn't understand. We have no knowledge of your universe creating/life creating genie who poofs universes and life out of nothing. We have never seen one of those and we have no indication that one exists or is even possible. Nevermind the fact that any time someone introduces is to the deity they say is the explanation for everything, we find them to be full of absurdities, contradictions and blatant falsehoods.
@@GarageStudio7 Spontaneous Generation "the supposed production of living organisms from nonliving matter, as inferred from the apparent appearance of life in some supposedly sterile environments." Yeah, how do you think the first cell came into existence?
This guy said nothing but facts in this video. He's not saying there is a god. He is merely suggesting that that the odds are almost impossible and it could all be explained by an intelligent creator. We need to be more open-minded. Don't just dismiss something because you don't agree with it. Take the time and actually think for yourself. Look at the facts. And make a decision. The amount of dislikes on this video and all these hateful comments show that people just aren't willing to accept contradicting ideas. Original Sin: "the human nature to believe what we want to even if you know it's wrong" Ok I'm not saying that this guy is right that there is a God. I'm saying we should be more open minded about things like this. Please excuse any grammar mistakes. (I broke my right hand)
How the FIRST concept of God came to be doesn't really matter. Many great minds have though of the possibility of a supreme being, because it is a valid hypothesis. Now about the Bible being rewritten a lot of times, that doesn't really matter... there are many religions that believe in God(s), but it doesn't mean you have to bring up religion when talking about God (God is just one of the names for an intelligent force that controls everything in the Universe). In my opinion, this video shows a decently thought out hypothesis, that there is a greater being that controls the flow of the universe. It doesn't talk about religion or any of that nonsense, so don't bring that up please.
Here's a fun fact: roll a die 70000 times. What are the odds to roll exactly the sequence you rolled? Unimaginably improbable. Yet you still rolled it.
Incorrect, the reason you’d have to write it down before hand is because there’s no probability if you don’t know what the probability is of. It’s just a random roll, know why you still got it? Because by saying any roll is the right one you’re saying “what are the chances of me rolling up a random sequence of numbers by rolling a random sequence of numbers”. The error here should be quite obvious but you’re really trying hard not to believe in God, I understand. Also though, the universe isn’t random, it isn’t simply any sequence of numbers because we fit together perfectly like the most specific key and padlock in the universe. The human genome is perfect (no macro evolutionary genes that are cast off), the ecosystem and the solar system and everything science and physics have discovered all work as one. Let me ask you this, if you threw the parts of an iPhone against the wall, what do you think the chances are of it falling into perfect order and screwing itself shut? Or perhaps try a car, computer, planet, or universe. Come back here when you have the probability and we can talk buddy.
@@JohnCena-iv6id You are welcome to present your calculations for the probability of any life appearing at some point in any random physically possible Universe. The Universe we are in now, had to exist for 13 billion years for this to happen. If our Universe is a consequence of existence of any previous Universe that might have no life in it, it means that that previous Universe also played a part in our existence, therefore by extension that Universe also supports life at some point, albeit it would have taken more than 13 billion year to get to it. And so on. If you want us to believe in God, then in addition to that you also have to prove that God created the Universe, or the opposite, that some Universe created God, i.e. a being that can pretend to be a burning bush, demand human sacrifice, and force a donkey to speak ancient Hebrew (if you are referring to the god described by Abrahamic religions)
@@michaellv426 be smarter. Your parallel universes are still a mathematical fiction (Penrose calculates the probability of our Universe in the model of a phase space - just a mathematical tool as if in the real space-time (of Einstein) but he does not see it like you). Check-in any biology resource how much time it takes to change a small sequence in DNA code or any (similar) biological "structure" (I do not know biology term; a good article on Ebola virus case). ps.Are u know and deny the principle of least action (in physics)? It works perfectly as according to Aristotle and Wisdom 11:20!
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much. Hell is real. You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:). 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 King James Version 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God Bless:)
There are 5.3 trillion (estimated) planets that can support life. There are 700 quintillion planets (estimated) in the known universe. This distribution is so low, that it leaves well over 99.9999% of all planets uninhabitable. Sorry but the probability argument doesn't hold water without making a lot of assumptions and purposefully misleading people.
I might be making an assumption. I guess you have to make a judgement as to who is making more assumptions: the ones claiming a god exists, made the universe, and speaks to people or the ones observing making predictions and altering future predictions based on past outcomes.
🎯 even on earth humans can’t exist on 90% it’s surface covered in bottomless oceans, frozen tundra and scorching desert. These narcissistic creatards with their dominionist phailosophy are endangering the habitable traces we have left
@@natolio100 it comes down to an opinion, To me, it sounds fucking stupid to believe the universe came from nothing and the purpose we serve is literally nothing, Why would something be created for the purpose of nothing, Name one thing you can think of that serves no purpose that has been created, everything once has had a purpose. Is our only purpose to reproduce? If so, then we have no purpose, our purpose is an unlimited loop of reproducing. You have a nihilistic view, You like to choose what's easy to believe, It's easy to believe after you die their nothing. theirs no proof of something, Here is a thought experiment could you even believe the universe and everything inside of it had you not been a part of it? Of Course not, It's something we can not even fucking fathom. You want to believe theirs nothing that could exist cause it's easy to assume after you die there is nothing. Theirs a lot of assumptions on both sides, And you're character decides which side makes more sense. When I look around and see everything work so perfectly with each other and follow the rules of nature, Ie dominant hierarchy in the wild, How atoms are the building block for everything, How Atoms create molecules and these molecules create oxygen, plants release oxygen and humans breathe in, then releasing Carbon dioxide that humans breathe out that plants breath in, I believe theirs a creator, and to think there isn't means you're fucking stupid. Science Proves something. Look deeper than surface-level shit. Also, Science is just a bunch of assumptions that you're taking as fact, Their research could mean absolutely fucking nothing why? because unless they have undeniable proof it could always be wrong. Tell me how scientists can prove there are 700 quintillion planets, They Physically can't, They can only tell you by assuming.
*walks up to girl in a bar*: "Hey girl... you know the chances of the both of us being right here right now are 1 in a quadrillion? The universe has brought us together - what I'm saying is it's so mathematically improbable for us to be here right now, that we need to boink. The Math is all right there telling us we were destined to boink."
I don't think your example is comparable to the video. The video is saying the creation of the universe is so unlikely, that it must have been controlled or done by a higher being with a purpose (ultimately to worship God, the creator) You are saying that two people meeting is so unlikely, so that there purpose should be to bang. But you wouldn't bang your own relatives, or anyone of same gender, or anyone you may not like, or an animal either?
@@paradise4213 the so-called 'creation' of our universe was likely not the start of everything. It was simply the beginning of our particular universe as we know it (14 billion years ago). What was before that, we have no way of measuring, but it's possible that universes are very common within a much larger multi-verse. We used to think our Sun was special - no, it's one of billions of suns. We used to think our galaxy is special - no, it's one of billions of galaxies. Now you think our universe is special - this is an assumption. You also think 'god did it' - another assumption. And you assume that god was your god and not the 2,500 man-made gods. And you assume that god wrote a book... which leads to a cascade of other assumptions. I encourage you to make more of an effort to engage in evidence-based thinking, because taking things on 'faith' gets you nowhere. I could believe in aliens, vampires, wacky conspiracy theories, or 2500 contradicting religions on 'faith'. Faith is believing without evidence - faith is irrational - faith is gullibility. Don't take anything on faith.
@@zenon3021 I like how you answer his assumptions with your own assumptions. Let him believe what he wants. No other life or form of life has been discovered outside earth. Our earth is very special, I don't understand how you don't see it. Perhaps you're being ignorant on purpose to make some silly point. One species doesn't evolve into another, there's zero transitional fossils, The odds of even a single sell “assembling itself” by chance are so low that they aren’t even worth talking about. Even the simplest cell you can conceive of would require no less than 100,000 DNA base pairs and a minimum of about 10,000 amino acids, to form the essential protein chain. Not to mention the other things that would also be necessary for the first cell. Wake up. 😁
@@wasconfuciusconfused3498 Evolution isn't an 'assumption' it's a scientific fact supported by150 YEARS of data in Biology (Genetics), Paleontology, Anthropology. Google "evolution of dogs" and you will see all the cute dog breeds you see today all evolved from the gray wolf over thousands of years. If a wolf can turn into a chihuahua in thousands of years, imagine what it would look like after MILLIONS of years. Everything evolves, and the debate is closed on the issue. Please visit the NONfiction section of any library or bookstore in the world, or check out any encyclopedia or natural history museum and educate yourself because thus far you've been getting your 'info' from some pseudoscientific blog website. I could provide some sources if you're interested.
@@zenon3021 Again, there's no single transitional fossils, if one species were to gradually change even given millions or billions of years there would be millions transitional fossils... But what do we see instead? Finding creatures that should have been instict or thought to be instict very much alive. Evolution carries some truth sure, as how mutations changes them, but never has one species created another. Maybe sub-species at best.... No fossils presented to say otherwise. You're reaching. It's a leap in faith don't you think?
@@rohandavies8889 Your theory is correct but remember that dependent variables of possibilities where there are two outcomes assuming the other cant happen at the same time is called possibility, not probability. Meaning the difference between saying. I have a 50% possibility that I will find a coin lying on the street because there are only two outcomes. However I could also say I have a 20% probability it will be a dime, assuming the possibilities are penny, nickel, dime, quarter, half dollar. You my friend are the master of possibilities 😎
you are wrong..take it this way.. 66666666 mean the universe came to existence as it is now..perfect for life 53645647 mean a random chaotic universe.. for a univers to support life it has to be 666666 according to our current scientific knowledge.. so why the univers is 66666 and not 75553577 or 86766543 or 97365577..becouse it was created.
The theory that the universe evolved to support life, is ridiculous. Life adapted to the universe.
life = the universe. At what point did the universe and life become two separate things?
If you really believe life = the universe you really need to first define life. Go to the moon and find life, or Mars, Venus, Mercury... We have yet to find life anywhere else but you're claiming the universe IS life?
papper Thats like saying the paint on a canvas is the canvas. Flees on a dog. Mold on a piece of bread. Same thing or seperate?
+P Sander, First you had a canvas then you added paint on it, the paint does not become the canvas just become it is on it. If the canvas somehow evolved to have paint on it then yes i would say the paint was the canvas.
The paint/canvas argument doesn't fit well as this is something that is done with purpose; paint doesn't grow on canvas. The mold and the bread, I think, is a better example of this. If you had an entire loaf of bread, and a bit of mold no bigger than a few crumbs had grown on just one corner of it, would the entire loaf be mold? Of course not. In fact, you could get rid of the mold and still be left with a loaf of bread. This is the same in the universe. Yes, there is life in the universe, but that doesn't make the entire universe life.
Is that Hawkeye?
So that's what he was doing when half of the beings in universe turned to dust
You're the type of guy I was searching for in this comment section..😂😂
😂😂😂
That's were he was during infinity war!
Not by his voice
I don’t even know what he said in the video I just came for the comments section
Man we are same
Me too
Same here
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Suleiman Same
I love this analogy, well done! In one of my undergrad engineering courses at Georgia Tech, the professor told us that at a point, when odds are sufficiently low, it is impossible. We like to say, “no, it could happen” but we fail to understand the enormity of the odds.
You say here that when the Big Bang occurred it was JUST RIGHT. Any faster and life couldn't form, any slower and it would collapse back on itself.
But you're forgetting one important theory... who says that the Big Bang that started our universe that we live in currently was the first ever Big Bang?
Who is to say that many times before this universe there weren't other universes that didn't quite get the expansion rate correct, thus collapsing back in on itself and then exploding billions of times over until it finally got the correct combination to harbour a universe that could sustain life (us).
Maybe it did take 70 trillion rolls of the dice and we just don't realise we aren't roll number one...
Jack Lawrence bloody hell dude do you actually believe what you are saying??? billions of big bangs spawned from nothing.... like it's some kind of experiment by nothing
Peace John no I'm not saying I believe in anything here. I'm just saying he is trying to prove the Big Bang wrong without considering all sides of what the theory has to offer
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Question then; what is between an electron and a proton inside of an atom? I think the answer is nothing.
Jack Lawrence damn, I'm mind blown. Never thought of it that way
Jack Lawrence yeah he addressed that at the end of the video saying that's basically having a faith in a higher power
What if you roll 6 three times in a row? Then it proves Satan.
LOL. Funny. But he exists too.
@@gettingdialectic9519 maybe
Seriously if There’s Satan then you must believe in God ..
@@lizannoni5548 what the hell are you on about?
Proof of Satan is the amount of disbelief in God.
When he was going on with the Trillions I thought he was talking about the USA debt...
lmao
1 in 216
Clever
Double oof
Aaahhh when then comments are better than the video
a big problem with this kind of thinking is assuming that we are the perfect odds and life can only exist the way it does now
The odds that there is yet other life and maybe not exactly as we know it still and created only by chance on even more planets and solar systems in the Universe are perhaps so great that if we were to start calculating now perhaps we might not live to finish doing so.
Nah, some scientist already discussed that we might be the only intelligent being exist in the entire universe based on lots of proof, one that I remember the most are when they gave out the argument on how there's maybe million of habitable planet like earth out there plus the universe have been around of more than billions years but nobody ever to visit us considering it would only take hypothetically speaking 4 millions years to develop fast travel spaceship accord to human technology progress
@@satuliebe4842 yea but there's so many factors and were pretty in the dark, so what we "know" could be based entirely on incorrect info. probably not but its possible
Not really, that's only means that the world is extremely complexe (but logic) to out little brain.
Its all speculation but clearly something elaborate is occuring and not by chance
Everyone gangsta until one realizes he’s talking about how many times you have to soft reset to get a shiny starter.
@@11_year_old_princess innocent people die to not live in this tragic world that us sinners should continue living in one day this earth is gonna turn into hell and only sinners will be left on here to survive read the bible
@@11_year_old_princess just because one dies doesnt mean they arent resting in peace or ina better place if they trully are innocent theyll be resting in heaven
@@eternalwoozieinternal853 exactly, but none of us are truly innocent and we are all sinners, that's why we need the blood of our lord Jesus Christ. God Bless!
@@erensts24 AMEN!!
@@erensts24 Please prove any of your claims.
Do odds matter with infinite time?
There cannot be infinite amount of time. Time began. Science and biblical teachings would agree on that matter. We know time began because there cannot be an infinite amount of past events. It's a mathematical abstract and logically speaking it cannot exist. God the creator of the universe must be outside of space and time. I would strongly recommend you watch dr William Lane Craig. He has answered so many awesome questions I've had about things like this.
@@kingconan1369 you are using logic to argue that we don't need to be logical. Interesting approach.
@@kingconan1369 Are you saying time is incoherent. We do science with the intent of making sense out of things. We don't argue in favor of nonsense which seems to be the approach you are taking.
Correct Zuver! Amazing, we have at least one intelligent person! There is no beginning or end to time. The very concept of a beginning or end of time is from people who cannot comprehend something so vast that it literally never begins and never ends. Time itself is only a relation of things that exist in relation to other things that exist. Energy cannot be destroyed, nor created, therefore it has always been and will always be, which means infinite.
if time is infinite we could have been very advanced
Three times in a row you go to jail.
*Hell*
@@Ty-or5gi *jail
animation life 666 Satans number
@@Ty-or5gi oh but what dose 666 have to do with hell it only has something to do with satan
The kingdom of GOD is near, we need to repent and believe in Jesus Christ, so that our sins can be forgiven, and we can have eternal life.
If we don't believe in Jesus, we will die in our own sins.
Lying, Stealing, murders, evil heart, revellings, hatred, emulations, arrogant, strife, Envyings, commit adultery, seditions, bad words, porn, didn't honour father and mother, worship idol, homosexual, fortune teller, black magic, blasphemed GOD, claiming self to be GOD, calling a man as GOD, worship things made of gold, silver, wood, stone or other materials, worship animal as GOD, against GOD, did not want to repent and believe in JESUS, take the name of GOD/JESUS in vain and other evils things, these all are sins. If we did 1 of these things before, it makes us sinner. If we continue to do these things or sinning, we will die in our own sins.We need to repent through Jesus, to make our relationship with GOD good again, because There will be a judgement day 1 day,The people who believe in Jesus Christ and follow his commands will enter the kingdom of GOD, but the people who don't believe in Jesus and done evil/bad things/sinners will enter Hell.
Only Jesus can give you joy, real peace, only Jesus can forgive your sins, only Jesus can lead you to be a righteous man.
No other name except JESUS can save your soul and lead you to heaven.
This is about our eternal life and eternal death, so believe in Jesus and repent(Confess to GOD that we're sinner, stop sinning and follow Jesus teaching), to save our own soul and life.
Repent, and be baptized every one of us in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and we shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.The Holy Spirit/Ghost will guide us on how to become a righteous man, live and work according to GOD's will.
Lord Jesus said:
luke6: 37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
You can read BIBLE online by searching it on google, you can start read from the book of JOHN. You can learn Jesus teaching from there.
If you have any stress, problem in your life, you can pray to Jesus and ask for his help, Jesus will listen to your prayer.
GOD is our Father, He is the ONE who made us and everything in this world. It's time for us to return to Him and acknowledge Him as our Father through Jesus Christ. Wake up people, return to your only ONE Almighty GOD and Father.
What if the dice were 'rickrolled' 70000 times? The Universe would never let us down like it does now
Never meant to hurt you.
John 7:7
King James Version
7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
Hebrews 11:6
King James Version
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
God loves you so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross to pay for your sins.
If you believe and put your trust in Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross to pay your sin debt and that He rose again on the third day, you will be saved. once you are saved, you will not die in your sins and be damned to hell for eternity.
God will remove your sins and your soul will be washed clean with the blood that Jesus Christ shed for us on the cross.
your own good works will not get you into heaven. Jesus Christ did all of the work for you, all you have to do is believe and put your trust in Him and He will save you.
Ephesians 1:13
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,.
Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we all have to be ready.
I pray in Jesus Christ's mighty name that you be saved.
God bless:)
@@eliwalker6245 God is Lie ,nobody exixts on purpose
@@eliwalker6245 oh king james. Lebron james wrote that book. Cool
@@popscola2574 Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much.
Hell is real.
You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:).
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Ephesians 1:13
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God Bless:)
It's eternity, you want to spend it in heaven not hell. Please read the book of John, and ask God for understanding and He will show you. Please look into it.
The evidence is all there.
Also look up Lee Strobel " Case for Christ"
God Bless:)
Okay hear me out.
What if the dices weren't rolled perfectly and life did not come into existance?
We wouldn't be here.
Imagine that there are more universes other than this one, where the dice is rolled.
The large large majority of them not developing right.
The only reason you can think of this concept right now, is because you live in a universe where life is supported.
There are no people in failed universes, because they don't support life. The only places where organisms can be able to contemplate why they live in a perfect universe, is if they live in one.
The only reason why the presenter didn't come up with the same conclusion as I did, is because he is not open minded.
erikpoephoofd brilliantly said
Marianno Reynoso Thanks, I put some thought into it.
erikpoephoofd Very well said! I really hope he actually reads these comments
this is like creationists saying a banana was designed for the human hand. Instead the banana's shape can be thought of as being easy to work with the hand of a human but not designed specifically for it. Also, this guy is so arrogant he doesn't realize that probability is based off the chances of something occurring and not that it will never occur. Given a long time anything can occur even if the probability is low. For example, the probability of rolling six 6 times in a row is very low but has it occurred somewhere. Yes in all likely someone has had that happen at one time. Just like there are some people who win the lottery multiple times when the odds are very unlikely. It doesn't mean it cant occur it just means its very unlikely but it has happened. Also, the expansion rate of the universe changing can even cause a higher probability of life. Also, the fact that our form of life may not be the only way that life may exist. The conditions were just right for our type of life to exist but that doesn't mean changing the conditions get rid of life itself from existing. People who use math to justify god's existence always seem to forget these variables.
+mk17173n ugh there you guys go again thinking the universe can just create itself..........
What about all of the planets and galaxies without life? Aren't those the other dice rolls that weren't sixes?
There are no other planets and life and galaxies..just a the earth, moon sun , and stars...other planets and galaxies are deception from the media and false teachings we all grew up with. I know its hard to believe but its true
lmfao vincent grab a telescope and then say this again andyou'll see why your a fucking idiot.
SlowReaction have you been up there? No you haven't...it's a star your seeing my friend
lmfao are you telling me telescopes lie to you, come on quit living in denial and a fantasy world and grow up.
So show me a picture then? And please not the photoshopped ones google provides. I'm not living in a fantasy world
This is all assuming we were meant to be alive, like we are. There is no proof that our way of life is the only way life can happen.
Who's to say there is any other type of of life?
The lack of evidence.
There is also no proof of any other interactive life anywhere in the universe.
Right. No proof at all.
Except maybe fossilized bacteria found on Mars, or the strong evidence showing that Titan, one of Jupiter's moons, could've supported some form of water-based lifeform underneath its thick coating of ice.
There's a lot of hypotheses, several potentialities for extraterrestrial life. After all, we've been finding planetoids with Earth-like aspects. Even if you arbitrarily decided that all life in the universe has to be carbon-based like what's found on Earth, you'd still be left with a mathematically daunting number averaging in the quintillions of potentially life-sustaining worlds. Widen your scope and consider that life could be, I don't know, based on silicates instead of carbon, and there's even more room to grow out there.
We like to believe that we're unique, and the Fermi Paradox does reinforce the notion that we're too small, too far away or too insignificant to justify any sort of contact between us and other hypothetically sapient species. If you abandon science fiction and the notion of aliens making contact, it's a lot easier to consider that there might be civilizations out there still struggling in their own version of the Neolithic era, their own Dark Ages or Renaissance, anything before spaceflight, basically - or worlds where life develops without ever reaching human levels of intelligence. Plant life is still life, after all.
It seems a lot more likely to me that we'll find *something* at some point. I'd never bank on a scenario that would make Trekkies blush with envy, though. Alien animal life or extraterrestrial plants would be as worth scrutiny to me as any stereotypical advanced civilization New Agers might want to believe in.
Daniel Sauvé titan is not one of Mars' moons
XD. but for real. There is a tiny chance for life to appear but so many planets. Theres got to be others, evenif they are bacteria.
+Mormon Suicide Have we really been to the other parts of the universe, so that we can use the argument of no evidence?
Try this experiment:
Roll the dice 70 times and write down the numbers you get.
Now do multiple series of rolls until you get the exact same numbers in the same order as the first time.
That will also take you quite some time.
Question, how unlikely was it that you got those exact numbers the first time?
Probability is tricky.
The odds are exactly the same as 70 sixes... on average that is
Exactly. These people are just making up logic to retrospectivley suit their preconceived notions
The problem with your statement Olof is that you didn't preset the required numbers prior to the rolling of the die. If you roll the die 70 times (or 70 dice at once - same thing) you will 100% of the time get a series of results. It is the chance of getting a specific series in a specific order. That is the point of this demonstration.
@@BanjoSoop The demonstration presuppose that the universe had a specific goal, a series in a specific order if you like. That is the point with my statement.
@@olofgardell3713 you make a very interesting point. But doesn't it state that things had to be a certain way for us to be alive? Are you saying there may have been other ways to be alive and not just this way?
Either way even if we have proof that it's a design by an intelligent being, doesn't prove it's by god. Could be anyone. Could be us.
Whatever the cause, however the odds, it's still pretty amazing that we're here
I think space-time is the real god here
@@albertsamarragarcia7788 nah space time can't bring us here
@stockholm syndrome says who?
@stockholm syndrome pfft- ok buddy
God is good
Our brains aren't smart enough to figure out how the universe got created so why don't we all go and eat some pizza?
Can we have pineapple on it?
@@Historian474 NO
@@PullupAddict Re your response to @Historian474: "NO!"
You're mean, y'know that? 😣
Anyway, I prefer watermelon. 😁😀😁😀
HC-JAIPUR
@@hiltonchapman4844 I was just joking:)
Papa John's. Nuff said
the odds against winning the lottery are millions to one, therefore no one has won the lottery.
lotteries are made to be won. Numbers don't repeat themselves. So your argument is irrelevant. When using dice, numbers repeat themselves. Past a certain number of tries, the odds will repeat themselves, so that an extremely low odd becomes impossible. It is said that beyond 10 to the 36 possibilities, an event is impossible to occur... unless you give the condition that possibilities can't happen twice. But this is against the laws of probabilities. It's like rigging the dice. In order to prevent a certain formation of a universe to happen again, you would need a structure of memorization of possibilities beyond time and space. This would be in no way different from the belief in God.
This argument assumes that we only have one person who bought a ticket, and the machine was only ever pulled one time, and assumes that we have a vast number of balls with a broad range of numbers on them. all of these are assumptions. one can just as easily assume that thousands and thousands of possible tickets exist, the machine was pulled a thousand thousand times, and that the balls only have the numbers 0 to 9 on them.
if all your argument for god rests on is assumption then I hardly find it compelling. and seen as the gulf between deism and theism is even harder to cross the inability of these arguments to leap this first hurdle is not exactly a good sign.
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The thing is, it only was one try to create the universe.
Let's put it another way. Let's say you throw a set of cards on the ground in the hope that it falls in the shape of a 6 stories high tower of cards with no card left unused or misused. We can assume that this is impossible in one try. Let's add to this hypothetical situation that you can try an infinite amount of time. Let's say that the possibility of achieving this is once every 10 to the 36 possibilities. Common sense tells you that it will never happen even if you try more than 10 to the 36 times because other simpler probabilities can happen again an infinite amount of time. You will see a simple configuration of cards many times, but never a perfect 6 stories high tower. This requires design. This is like saying about the Eiffel tower in Paris that it's probably designed, but there is an infinitesimal probability that it appeared by chance. Only a lunatic would think that.
Theist: Dear God, I am not able to convince people with a bible. What should I do?
God: Why don't you try with a dice?
@@hyperneutronstar428 Dude, I am NOT a theist. 🤦😂 Which anti-sarcasm pill have you taken?
@@dr6415no one can prove god exist
Neither any one can prove god does not exist
It is a 50/50 situation
And every one hope he is in the right side
@@ukleth If no one can prove, why have false hope? Waiting until it is proven would be a rational approach rather than living in a lala land.
@@dr6415 both side will live with hope.
There are hope that god exist
As
There are hope that god doesnt exist
No one can prove his situation 100% because there are not proof and will never be.
It is still a coin flip 50/50
@@ukleth Nobody can prove that something does not exist. Can somebody prove that dragons do not exist? Be careful when you step out of your house next time.
ww3 in comments let's go
There shall be many crusades... on both sides.
You mean universe war 1
Gurnski Deti yes! Allah is indeed the greatest!
@@johannes1689 you misspelled your name my guy
Time to grab the popcorn
Thats like saying, what are the odds of our planet having life? Its so unlikely!
But then when you realize that there are trillions and trillions of planets... the odds of one of them having life isnt so unlikely now.
But I don't think You understand that he is not talking about about our planet having life, (which is unlikely) he is talking about that one time that the universe exploded into existence which was 1 time which also makes the odds very unlikely which just proves that God exists, but I can't change your mind all I can do is plant the seed God does the tending and growing
+Tyler Friesen That's some nasty shit. Also, that doesn't prove that there is an immensely powerful cosmic being which forged life from its own will. For proof of such an entity, evidences of its physical existence must be collected. Having a hard time comprehending mere probability does not fully detail the likelihood of an entire individual which crafted everything.
The issue with that statement is that this video is talking particularly about the expansion rate of the universe. The statistics he uses aren't just in regards to the planet we live on having life. It's a 1/10^55 chance that the universe expands fast enough to not collapse back in on itself (so it wouldn't exist at all) or that it wouldn't expand too quickly to where energy is spread too thinly and matter couldn't becoming increasingly complex to form the life giving atoms we know such as carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen.
yes papakay there might be billions of universes and we are in one which can sustain life.
He addresses that point. He even says the problem is solved by the notion that infinite (or trillions of trillions) of universes exist - but that the belief that other universes exist is also a faith-based claim. He's not even addressing the chances that life would form - other than the statement about it actually being less likely than what he stated. He talks about the expansion rate of the universe allowing the elements that make up our universe to form in the first place.
There are issues with this, just like all origin beliefs - "scientific" or otherwise. We cannot say that the other universes with faster/ slower rates of expansion wouldn't result in different physical laws that would result in matter and energy and trillions of planet-like things anyways - and with trillions of planets you have trillions of lottery tickets for life. We also have no way of knowing that the universe didn't explode too weak/slowly several trillion times and re-collapse on itself before producing what we believe is the current rate of expansion Each collapse would essentially re-engulf space-time itself. Meaning the difference between once and infinite is practically indistinguishable.
Also, that's kind of what a singularity is: Infinity expressed as one.
The universe thought about this, and it blew its mind. That's what we call the big bang.
The universe is named Frank. The previous collapsed universes were not named Frank. One of them was named Tabitha.
So the universe is too complex to just exist by "chance" therefore you are getting around that problem by claiming that the basis of reality is an even more complex intelligent mind that can create and destroy things? So how can that just exist? This assumption does not solve the problem. It doesn't even come close to solving the problem. It just leaves you with the same problem only it's now even more difficult to explain. That's why you don't attempt to explain it. It is God. God is God. No one can explain God. Ah, how convenient.
It's called an "argument from ignorance" or "the god of the gaps" - basically, "We don't know. Therefore God"
A few centuries ago you'd have heard "We don't know where lightning comes from. Therefore Thor"
Arguement from ignorance AND You are claiming that this universe is too complex to exist by chance, therefore it must have been built by 'God', or whatever. That creator must be even more complex. It must have come from somewhere too. All you accomplish with that idea is to remove yourself 1 step from the original question, and made it even more complex and, by your logic, less possible'. Believe whatever you like, but please, at least try to think.
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The probability of "chance creation" is convergent to zero! The only "ignorance" is the refusal of numbers!
+Edwin Spellcaster - doesn't work that way. The "probability argument" in the vid is based on a lack of understanding of the difference between "a priori" probabilities and "a posteriori" probabilities. It's the sort of thing I'd expect any undergraduate math student to pick up on immediately - to be honest, I'm amazed (amused actually) that people still take this one seriously. In any case, this article by John Allen Paulos (a math prof at Temple University) explains what's wrong with the math in layman's terms
abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2384584
Argument from Authority?
the prof also starts his "argument" with a straw man; claiming that we are denying Independence (ridiculous)
Third he later cites the very phenomenon we are talking about: observation of extremely low probabilities in countless occurrences !
He disproved nothing
He needs a better argument, this one doesn't hold up. Two reasons, for one, even with his argument there's still just as much evidence for God doing it as there is for Yahweh, Jehovah, Satan creating the universe, some alien, nothing explains specifically who did it, and secondly we really have no clue what the odds of this universe being here are, we aren't advanced enough as a civilization to claim we know the odds.
He said an 'intelligent being' not god whether or not you believe in god is your choice
Lol
@@ys92legand24 Check the title.
@@ys92legand24 It doesn't matter. It still applies. This is actually called the gamblers fallacy.
Just because something is possible doesn't mean it will happen.
God, Yahweh and Jehovah are the same Being. God simply being the English title of a Higher-Being. Jehovah being an early English translation of the name inwhich the Judeo-Christian God introduces Himself to Moses. And Yahweh being a much later English translation of that same name.
Literally your entire argument is a "what if" and a "maybe"
Like, dude, im not against religion. But if your saying that probability proves god is real, especially in an infinite universe that we dont even fully understand yet.
Then i definitely NEVER want to go to a casino with you
In what sense is this argument a "what if" or a "maybe"?
@@justdidit3933 because thats literally the kind of thing he says at points in the video like 0:52 and 1:46. And thats not the last time he says it either. The title says the dice "proves" god exists, but using what if statements proves nothing.
You'll have to show me how those "what if" statements sum up his entire argument because I just don't see it. It seems clear to me that those statements are not the argument itself, but his way of making a point rhetorically.
Nevertheless, it seems to me you don't find this argument convincing. May I ask what specific aspect(s) of the argument you find issue with?
@@justdidit3933 sure. And perhaps we just dont see eye to eye on this subject and thats fine. But the points of his argument that i just do not agree with and honestly find comical is that he never gives any solid evidence and proof to god being real. In fact he doesnt have much of an argument at all if were being realistic here. His statement in this video can be sumerized to be "its incredibly improbable so it cant be possible" even though we dont know how universes form or how life could have had been diffrent if the universe had been diffrent. The way he states it makes it seem as though our univers is completely unique, but the truth is that it would more likely be like a gradiant. With some possible universe being able to have life while others cannot.
In all honesty his entire argument is ironic because it is in of itself a gamble, even though the way he states it in the title is to try and make is think its fact.
You bring up a fair point. "Proof" is always subject to interpretation, so I would never say this argument proves, un-equivocally, that God exists. Rather, I would say it makes belief in his existence more reasonable than not.
But back to the argument, let me ask you this. Putting all other possibilities aside for the moment, do you agree that because the odds of our universe's physical constants being lined up perfectly to sustain life is so minutely small that this at least at face value seems to indicate it was designed?
Wow.
Quality content from a christian.
Now THAT'S got the chance of 1 in 10 to the power of 55
I don't even think it's quality content! where does the 70 rolls come from???
Philip Olivier Jean Nowhere. They made it up. It's a fake thing so that they can convince people.
That being said, the presentation was quality and so was the video/audio.
I hear your point!
The problem is simple. His math is completely wrong.
+Sam Adams ur right. his math is wrong. ive been trying to do it correctly but I cant get the numbers to work cause I'm just a stupid believer. perhaps u can show us the proper math. please??????
What are the chances that TH-cam recommends this 4minute video to me even tho there is thousands of years of content in TH-cam?
Juho Petrell
*G A W D D I D I T*
Bentley Vo lol
Juho Petrell god must me real 😂
Juho Petrell Same 😂
It must be the work of marketing algorithm or Jeebus. Or maybe aliens planted analprobe into the TH-cam system.
How unlikely does an event have to be before you can round down to “it’s impossible”? One specific sperm fertilizing an egg on a specific day and combining dna in exactly the right way to create me is statistically unlikely, but it happened.
Also, how do you make the leap from x is impossible to x is caused by a god? What if the unlikely event is caused by something else we don’t know about or simply occurs without any intent or forethought.
Try rolling 10 dices and getting 6 on every on them. You'll learn what's impossible.
@@Јоханатан lol
@@Јоханатан I prayed for all sixes and only got two!
You make the leap from X is impossible to X is caused by God because in order for space, time, and materials to exist there must be something spaceless, timeless, and immaterial needed to create them. It's agreed upon in the scientific community that the universe had a beginning, and there's no evidence to suggest that the "big bang" was caused by "the universe." Something intelligent had to have started it in the first place. Christians believe that intelligent thing to be God.
@@Јоханатан Try rolling 10 dice and write down the numbers you got. Hitting that exact combination with 10 rolls is exactly as likely as rolling 10 6s, yet you magically just got it!
i love when theists try to use science to bolster their theories. God is dying out and in a few generations theists numbers will be dwindling
Michael Robinson Sounds like a narcissistic fantasy of yours. Please get off your high horse, we need it's hooves for producing glue now.
fantasy thats becoming reality so sure whatever. no high horse just glad to see progress and religion taking a back seat to that. also not a vegan/vegetarian so do what you want with the hooves.
DENYOURMAKER i wasn't speaking specifically about the us. however. the Harris poll says the following
"Just under 2-in-10 U.S. adults described themselves as very religious, with an additional 4-in-10 describing themselves as somewhat religious down from 49 percent in 2007. Twenty-three percent of Americans identified themselves as not at all religious, nearly double the 12 percent reported in 2007"
in europe the figures show less and less believing in God also at much greater numbers.
I certainly do hope superstition and religions die out, they have been the cancer of the world disguised as ¨love and eternal life¨ while manipulating weak minds into creating the biggest conflicts, division and hate we have ever seen.
***** theists dont often use science correctly. or atleast they pick and chose to suit their narrative.
What if its a simulation
INSIDE ANOTHER SIMULATION
INSIDE ANOTHER SIMULATION
Thx for the likes.. currently a new record
Mind blown
Stop watching rick and morty
More probable than god though
What if we are powering a car or spaceshipnwith whatever work we do
@Zedlika Yato okay smart boy maybe you could spell simulation right next time
Imagine the defeat you'd feel rolling a six 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 times in a row only to roll a one on the next roll.
All praise be to God as it should for the majesty of your face and the greatness of your authority. Allah, guide us to the straight path. I am believing that you are the only right god, the heavenly books are revealed from you, All the prophets were revealed from you for inviting people to worship you, you have no sons and nothing like you, and the judgment day exists. thank you for making us Muslims. thank you for revealing the holy Quran which is full of all types of miracles. thank you for rewarding the believers by the heavens and the paradise. thank you for making us certain that you are the only God which deserves to be worship. Allah, you know that I am inviting people to enter Islam and believe in you to satisfy you. you know that I am trying to satisfy you. how we could make sure? what is true religion? what is the evidence? and all the topics related to faith are present in the Holy Quran, the words of Allah. tell me your questions that are preventing you from accepting Islam brother. religion comparisons are present in the Holy Quran. Also, doctor Zakir naik has done these matters. for looking at the scientific shreds of evidence in the Holy Quran, look at this article 1drv.ms/b/s!AmL9SYpFyLhJaiDZWMe57FtRN5w?e=no9nP8
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@@hossamtarek2272 LOL! COPY AND PASTE
@@mochatech121 yep
Just pretend like that didn't happen and roll a six next roll. If that actually happened though I would be really sad.
@@hossamtarek2272
Wasted copy
I know I'm late to the party, but:
1. The universe hit 70 rolls of the number 6 in a row first time - This analogy doesn't work for 2 reasons. First, you can calculate mathematically the chance to hit 70 consecutive 6's on your dice in a row. You just did. But you can't mathematically calculate how likely it is for a universe to be created. Sure, you can create an analogy, like you just did, but it doesn't hold. You have no data to use, like you have in the case of dice. Here, you have a dice with 6 faces, that's the entire system. It's pretty easy to calculate the mathematical odds of hitting a certain number in a row. But you can't calculate the probability for a universe capable of sustaining life forming. Because you don't have multiple universes to compare it to, you don't have the bigger picture with set limits, like in the case of the dice. The second problem is how were you able to figure out that the universe hit that unlikely 6 70 times in a row FIRST TIME? How did you excluded the possibility of the universe being born and being destroyed billions and billions of times (or trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions) before finally taking a form which allowed the emergence of life? Oh right, you can't, you just excluded it by omission.
The analogy would've worked if we also could've witnessed the birth, life, and death of multiple universes and calculate the chances for them to breed life, based on how many lifeless and how many life-filled universe we observed. But we don't have that, so the analogy is flawed.
2. Unlikeliness isn't the same with impossibility - No matter how unlikely a phenomenon is, you can't say it's impossible unless you've already demonstrated that it is impossible. Here, let me explain:
Highly unlikely - Extremely low chances to occur, but can occur since there are no laws of the universe preventing it from occurring.
Impossible - Cannot occur, since we have demonstrated that the laws of the universe prevent it from occurring (like a square circle)
You confuse these 2 things throughout your video, including at 2:57 "Let's imagine I rolled the dice 70 times, each time hitting a 6, first try, no waiting for trillions and trillions of years. Beginners luck? Hardly" Why hardly? It's certainly not impossible. So, how do you exclude the possibility of the "beginner's luck". You can't. Then you continue "You would assume I rigged the dice" Right, people tend to do that when they see an event as unlikely as rolling 6 70 times in a row. That' doesn't mean they're correct. Because maybe you didn't rig the dice. Maybe it was beginner's luck.
Then, you go even further, completely eliminating the chance altogether at 3:29 saying "The fact that we're here shows that somebody 'rigged the dice'". Wrong, it can also show the occurrence of a lucky chance. Which you dismissed without any reasonable explanation.
But everything culminates at 3:45 when you claim that there's no scientific evidence for multiverse, which would make believing in the multiverse theory unreasonable. Which is rich coming from someone occupying the theist's position. But then you say "If you believe that, you're just as guilty as being in a faith-based position as someone who believes God did it", which, I don't know how to put it, dismantles your theist position. And then you continue with "But believing in God isn't a delusion, it's a perfectly reasonable conclusion" which is not only unsupported given your failure to understand concepts like chance, probability, and impossibility, but it's also contradictory with what you claimed literally 3 second previously.
I appreciate the effort almost as much as I appreciate the failure.
Didn’t see any proof my guy
Those who mock God will be punished.
Copper Popcorn he’s been punishing me for about 7 years already
Jesus Christ is it really worth the not even funny joke?
SciPig am I really worth wasting your time?
Even Jesus knows that this isn't how it works.
this doesn't really make any sense since literally the same argument can be made for the other side.
That's why it's called "faith".
God is Love so, can I believe that little orange lollypop men made the universe, if I have faith enough ?
peragrine Vagabond yea you can. you can't prove any of the theory's.
So what your saying is that BOTH sides are faith in something unproved.
TheWaterdog6 yes you cant prove that we just got lucky and the universe came into existence and our planet was in the perfect place and life was able to form all by chance. how can you prove that. There are two theory about how the universe started one is the multiverse theory (there are many universes in existence and our was one of the one that were able to create matter and life) the other is the super symmetry which suggests that all of the elementary particles (bosons and fermions) are connected in some way.
"Maybe there's an infinite amount of universes with an infinite amount of possibilities. Maybe. But we DON'T HAVE ANY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR IT"
How ironic
That was the point of him mentioning that. Lol
lol fr
If there's Science behind everything,Who or What is behind Science?
@Pig in shit Proof?
Literally read this as he said it
I once dropped a nickel. It rolled across the floor, bounced off the wall, rolled back a few inches, and stopped... remaining balanced on its edge without falling over.
A guy named Michael Dick lost track of his daughter; he hadn't seen her in 10 years. He went to the town where he thought she lived to search for her. After being unable to find her, he took a photo of himself and asked local papers to publish it, along with his story. His daughter did see the picture... and noticed that SHE WAS IN THE PHOTO behind him. She didn't even live in the town anymore; she was visiting that day and just happened to be walking by.
The odds of any of us having been born is 1 in 400 trillion.
Very improbable things happen. Despite this being a well-produced, compelling video, at the end of the day, it proves nothing; it's still just an argument from incredulity.
Even if this convinces you, it argues only for an intelligent designer, not the God of Abraham or any deity whatsoever.
I think he is trying to say the odds of having no creator isn’t much better than if there is.
@@No_bread-and-circuses that's wrong totally, limiting god to certain names and persons is also wrong , Krishna has been described in a much much much better way of what god needs to be compared to god of abraham, still however limiting god to Krishna or anything else is wrong, god is beyond all of this
@@No_bread-and-circuses that's according to your perspective that humans had original sin, which does not exist because it denies evolution
I once personally flipped an Australian 50 cent coin over a bet to see who would get master bedroom in a unit me and a mate rented, about 20 years ago ,and it landed perfectly on its edge. I said take it and to this day have never once bet again.
Hell yeah, proof that God is a faggot and wants to suck us all off!
Me to crush - *"When are we going out on a date?"*
Crush : 1:40
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The odds of us being here are 100 percent. We're here. Duh!
@Ton Jor yes, exactly. The odds of you flipping that coin heads are 100% if you're looking at the result after the fact. Everything is...
@Ton Jor thats not the case it is where you hold the coin
@@mo0kthechef then why i flip it it did not
its just a mistake
@@Reconfiles complete randomness is impossible unless you are I math world
"Probability is a measure of human ignorance, not a fact of reality." ~ A guy I saw in the comment's section.
I like that. I bring to your attention the fact that we never really know anything in an absolute manner. Probability is the human equivalent of saying "Most likely" while being intellectually honest that we do nto know it all.
I may use the line tho.
@@j-joe-jeans lol, your statement contradicts itself
@@Tonydalowk
How so?
@@j-joe-jeans you said we don’t know anything in an absolute manner, how do you know that’s true if nothing can be known absolutely according to your beliefs
@@j-joe-jeans according to your standards, you’re wrong
Plus you’re making an absolute truth claim by saying nothing can absolutely be known
This essentially comes down to a common misunderstanding of probability ... what these people forget is that, whist there is a 1 in a zillion chance of getting x 6s in a row, there is the same chance for literally every conceivable specific combination of rolls. Kind of removes the mystery if you ask me.
The difference is organization, and continuation. The laws of physics says that the state of matter is gradual degradation. Things SHOULD have become more DISORGANIZED since the big bang, not MORE organized. Chaos so says science.
John 7:7
King James Version
7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
Hebrews 11:6
King James Version
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
God loves you so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross to pay for your sins.
If you believe and put your trust in Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross to pay your sin debt and that He rose again on the third day, you will be saved. once you are saved, you will not die in your sins and be damned to hell for eternity.
God will remove your sins and your soul will be washed clean with the blood that Jesus Christ shed for us on the cross.
your own good works will not get you into heaven. Jesus Christ did all of the work for you, all you have to do is believe and put your trust in Him and He will save you.
Ephesians 1:13
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,.
Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we all have to be ready.
I pray in Jesus Christ's mighty name that you be saved.
God bless :)
@@eliwalker6245”hateth”?? If the bible has already been altered and translated so much why is it still in old English 🙄. May as well change it again to modernised English
@@Maan514 There is a modern translation actually. They prefer KJV, NKJV would suit you better.
@@bondojoe8161 this was what I was thinking, I get where the first commenter is coming from however that "roll of dice" has continuously for billions of years rolled the right side up!
Apparently there is this almighty "creator" who can summon up an entire Universe but is unable to communicate with humans, at all.
He...did...he...does...you ok bro?
what do you mean by «he does»?
lol... still waiting
Did you ever see or speak... or have any contact with your god?
We did, but then we killed Him. Read some history bro...
If it's not chance it's a Wizard...
There's no place like home...there's no place like home........................ :P
Which facts? The logical fallacies which the guy in the video pulled from his butt?
I won't deny those... because they aren't facts.
I agree - what facts?
The entire video is based on a lack of understanding of basic probability.
what qualifications do you have in probability? A Maths degree perhaps?
I have a BA in Math, Master of Computer Science, I can say he does not understand probability. Regardless, it is in fact still possible by his own admission.
"God does not play dice with the universe"
- Albert Einstein
Stop telling god what to do Einstein
@@弘睿甫 LOL
@@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782 Wolfgang Pauli said that to Einstein.
And then came Heisenbergs Uncertainty principle
Don't tell God what to do with the dices
2:32 "It hit 70 rolls of the number 6 in a row, first time"
How do you know it was the first time?
Because the video uses the falacy that you already have to believe you were destined to exist the first place. Only a believer will think that this video makes any sense, anyone with logical reasoning will say otherwise.
So basically, just because something is improbable means that an impossible answer is more viable.
Jon Do Well, at least the Abrahamic, Nordic, Egyptian, Hindu, or any personal God. A God that's only defined as "the entity that created the universe" while still far-fetched has at least have a chance.
No, it means that because something is basically impossible means that the if there's one other possible cause, then it must be the correct answer, logically.
Why is it farfetched? It's the one single thing that's not farfetched at all.
How is God impossible?
tom jarle Hammer If it were some test sure. But life isn't a test. There could be no answer at all.
If the universe were different, life would be different, not nonexistent.
If the universe were different or adjusted to the smallest degree life would not exist. The laws that we know about which shape everything are calibrated and if offset would result in nonexistence.
Austin Hill Life has evolved to survive and adapt. What you see is an imperfect but perfectly functional result of constant tweaking and adjusting. No masterpiece simply is.
Lolololol James... Now you're not talking science, you're talking about philosophy my friend. But I'll bite... You are assuming the laws are not "calibrated". You don't know that, they could be exactly what science says they are.
This is a pointless conversation because math vs poetry.
Gnomey T.O what if God made it that way. you have no proof there were more than one bang. I have no scientific proof of God. We are in the same boat believeing in something we can't prove.
Not really the same boat.
First though, let me state that the "one in six to the 70th power" number, I can assure you, is fabricated. There is no way anyone who hasn't observed several big bangs could possibly comprehend everything going on enough so that they could hope to put odds on its occurring a certain way, or that they could conclusively state that only one set of die rolls equals life: It's like watching one person cross the street, then concluding that if anyone had tried to cross it in any other way, no matter how slight the change, that they'd be killed by a moving bus. Of course the chances of that one fellow crossing the way he did was was 1:6^70, and since it happened right the first time, god helped him cross the street.
One who believes in god has subscribed to a single possibility without proof. The other responses I see here are from those who are admitting there are things we don't know. There's no faith in that except for acknowledged and researched proof. Could this proof be wrong? Yes. And science allows for that. That is why I state that it's "not the same boat." Honestly science shouldn't care about proving god doesn't exist any more than it needs to prove that unicorns don't exist.
2:33 - "It hit 70 rolls of the number six in a row first time".
Who said that it was the "first time"?
Yeah, exactly
Do you have any evidence otherwise? No. Still a faith position. You believe there is no God and consequently choose to believe the possibilities that support that notion. Like it or not, we do not know enough to make any assertions. Atheist or theist, it's all still faith.🌚
Also to answer you question directly, even if it wasn't the first time, the rate of expansion had to remain constant throughout the expansion as did all the other laws that govern the universe. Each second of that is another roll of the die. Still impossible.
Heck, we're still rolling the dice even now.
@@rydok1313 I beg to differ. You are right about faith but for theist it's only temporary. True seekers do find god.
@@chuckswanson8496 I don't get your point exactly, but if you think I was equating the faith of the theist with that of the atheist, l wasn't. The faith of the theist, apart from being more rational, brings much needed peace and guidance. Also, yes, sincere seekers of truth will be guided to it.
@@rydok1313 the point is people that seek God by faith God does reveal himself with his invisible attributes in a clear way which convinces that person that God is real. Even to the point of having a relationship with him.
This is a very weak argument at best. The appearance of fine-tuning can be simply explained as a consequence of the weak anthropic principle and survivorship bias. The dice have already been rolled, the sequence of numbers has already occurred, and now you’re looking back at those numbers, in hindsight, saying - this is improbable therefore God did it. Where do I even begin?
You assume the universe only got one chance at "rolling the dice 70 times" to get all of the constants right - but how do you know it didn't get gazilion chances to roll the dice before it got all of the constants right?
You assume there's only one universe with just the right constants - but how do you know there aren't many more universes out there that aren't as fine-tuned ?
Secondly, how does this prove that God did it? - Maybe multiple Gods were involved ? How about aliens from the parallel universe? or mischievous programmer of one of the simulations that you just happen to live in? Or maybe it was just an unconscious natural phenomena for which at least we have plenty of evidence here on earth - aren't we surrounded by examples of natural processes which produce complexity without the involvement of any intelligent consciousness (trees grow from seeds and humans from nothing but a single sperm and an egg cell)
Lastly, you assume that highly improbable complexity must have had a deliberate cause but then you proceed to abandon this assumption when you come to the conclusion that God dit it. Using your own logic - If God exists, and complex existence must have had a cause, then God must have been caused. And here you arrive at infinite regress fallacy, if God fine-tuned the universe for life, then who fine-tuned the God for creating life-bearing universe ?
U can't get something from nothing -science. Evreything that exists came from nothing -science. Science is dumb god is real
The entire premise of this vid is based on a complete misunderstanding of basic probability. There is a difference between "a priori" probabilities (which is what he's referring to) and "a posteriori" probabilities which is what he should be talking about.
and the probability of you shutting the fuck up
Probability is still probability - you won't find those two supposed differences on any undergraduate degree course in Mathematics.
+John Airey - really? It's the sort of thing that I'd expect any math major to know.
Ah - so you are an American and don't have a maths degree? These differences in probability only exist in your head. You don't like the inevitable result so you invent a problem with the Maths.
"a posteriori" refers to the distribution of known results. They aren't two different parts of probability. This videois about the likelihood of the universe happening by chance, and this is patently unlikely.
Actually, the chance for me commenting on this video is one over infinity.
Nah. People that know you would have given even odds. :-D
@Facts, Logic & Reason wow!
@Facts, Logic & Reason to his comment, it made me think
That's funny you said that, because you did comment, so not quite as impossible as you said.
@@mikepierce6092 Thats an euphemism
Don't tell me i was the only one thinking he'll roll the dice 70 times.
100000000000 ×10⁴⁵ times
@@louaytheking9989 Why didn't you just put it into scientific notation? - 1x10^56
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“imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!" - Douglas Adams
As it happens, if the universe did not do what it does then no one would be here to argue about it.
roll of dice is calculated on the probability theory. But it is possible to skill out your dice throw. Same goes for the needle dropping between a line or crossing a line. Do that a couple of times and you become skilled and can choose the position where you want it to land. A bit more practice and finger snapping movement comes in to play and the needle falls point first and sticks into the surface. Probability theory hasn't much to do with the universe. Even Einstein believed "God" did not dice.
Atheists, christians, so called jews, muslims. Yea all peoples of the earth, hear the Word of the Lord, spoken to us, THIS last generation! More of these Letters found at the bottom of this comment;
"Thus says The Lord: Peoples of the earth, do you know Me? Do you really know who I am? I am Elohim. YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH is My name, both God and Savior. For in The Son does the fullness of The Father dwell.[1]
Yet you of this earth have not known Me! Behold, I have spoken to you plainly, using few figures of speech, yet you do not know Me! From the beginning, even to this day, I have declared My glory through all My servants, the prophets, and still you refuse to embrace Me as I truly am!
Behold, the peoples of the earth pollute My name, and the nations take counsel together to strike Me from remembrance! Therefore, ALL shall come to know Me in My anger! Every tribe, tongue, and people shall behold My hand against the nations, until all those who blaspheme are bowed down, until every jaw is clamped shut and every tongue cleaves to the roof of the mouth! For I am come out of My sanctuary, to astound the nations, to judge and to pour out judgment, to repay and take vengeance upon My enemies, to make an end!
Yet I ask you, who among the nations fears Me? Who among this modern generation, among all these multitudes of perverse and vile people, revere My name? Who, among this great multitude, trembles in fear at the coming of The Lord?! And who among the mighty shall be able to stand, when the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven?! Therefore repent, and establish My way before Me, says The Lord God, and I shall also establish you! For I am The Lord, and I shall establish justice in all the earth!
Why, O peoples of the earth, do you stand proud? Why do you set your faces like stone, and resolve in your hearts to fight against Me? Behold, I have set My face against YOU, and resolve in My heart to abase you, until the pride of man is bowed down and the arrogance of man is utterly humiliated, as it is written! Be bowed down therefore, O most wicked generation! Humble yourselves and repent, and seek now The Righteousness of The Lord, that you may live and not die!
Peoples of the earth, how long shall you court death and desire abomination?!
Your hearts are full of adultery; you cease not from lying down with sin!
Behold, you have joined yourselves to the grave and
With death you have made your agreement![2]...
Foolish people, see now the Word of The Lord,
Open your ears and listen to the voice of The Lord your God,
And establish My way before Me, that you may live and not die...
For there is no other God besides Me;
A just God and a Savior, there is none besides Me[3]...
Says The Lord."
~
"Peoples of the earth, hear the Word of The Lord your God: You are lost, drowning in a deep sea of transgression, sinking in the ever-shifting sands of religion and science. You are stuck in the mire of your iniquities, slowly suffocating, as the fruit of your labor comes full circle to take away your life. For by your own works have you destroyed the garden, on account of your greed have you caused much suffering and death, bringing calamity upon your own heads! Thus because of your great iniquity I have drawn back My hand, and for the multitude of your transgressions the judgment of God has come upon you.
Dead generation, foolish children, evil surrounds you on every side! Darkness closes in, yet you remain unmoved! Detestable birds gather and predators come forth to stalk you as prey, yet you see no cause for alarm! Therefore as I live, says The Lord, My flock has become the prey and My children have made themselves meet for the slaughter! For the peoples of the earth have forsaken Me, days without end; they have altogether gone astray! My created ones have removed themselves far from Me, and My own beloved have not returned to Me, but do always seek their own way! And of the shepherds, they did not go out to search for My flock, but have fed themselves! They did not feed My flock, BUT HAVE FED THEMSELVES!
Therefore hear the Word of The Lord, all you self-appointed shepherds, and give ear, all you wayward flocks, for you have surely broken the yoke and burst the bonds, you have surely forsaken The Lord your God; for thus says The Lord: I am against you! Your houses are fallen, and the foundations upon which you have built yourselves up crumble beneath your feet! All is dust and ashes, rubble piled up in heaps! Oh what a bitter thing this is, unending sadness, anguish and pain; My own beloved have departed from Me, My own children have gone far astray! I gave My Son for them, that they may live and not die, I laid Myself upon the altar, yet they want no part with Me as I truly am! Thus they choose death, and with the grave they have made their agreement.
Therefore, thus says The Lord: Tremble, O heavens! Shake, O earth! Let the seas rage and the mountains crumble before the coming of The Lord! Let the whole earth be bowed down before The Holy One of Israel, for My Kingdom comes!... Behold, The Almighty is coming down to you, yes, The Son who wears the full raiment of The Father. For in Him alone does the fullness of God dwell. Thus HE shall pluck you from the fire, HE shall scourge the nations with the Word of His power, and strike the wicked with the sword of His mouth. Yes, HE shall tread the grapes in the winepress of the wrath of My fury, wiping the wicked from existence, destroying all things which sicken His sheep and cause His flocks to go astray; behold, He shall utterly destroy all that offends!
My people, The Mashiach is your help and your shield;
YahuShua, whom you call Jesus and Christ,
Is The Rock of your Salvation,
The One who is and was and is to come;
For The Father and The Son are One...
Therefore, embrace Me in My Mercy,
And receive of Me in My Great Love.
Thus says The Lord, your Redeemer: I am indeed coming down to shake the heavens and the earth, to move all from its place; to bring forth that which was hidden and to reveal that which was misplaced;[1] to open that which was shut and to shut that which was opened. Therefore prepare, My people, for the time has come; yes, today is the day of salvation! Go forth, beloved ones, and set all these crooked paths straight; regain the line, prepare and watch. For the leaves of the fig tree are upon its branches; summer is near![2]
Again I say, watch. For The One who ascended is about to descend... And lo, I am come, in the volume of the Book it is written of Me, to accomplish The Father’s will.[3] For I have heard the cries of the oppressed and the groaning of the poor and the needy, I know the plight of the fatherless and the widow. I have tasted their tears, and the heart of the faithful is not hidden from Me.
Therefore watch[4] and also listen, and be spared, for I am about to give a shout.[5] For all that is written in the Book of The Lord, both the former and the latter, comes to pass through Me. Take heed therefore, for assuredly I say to you, it shall in no wise come to pass as a mere metaphor or as a parable conceived of by men. For the time of arrogant assumptions and prideful assertions is over, the time of corrupt knowledge and polluted sermons is at an end.
Behold, The Power from on high is coming
Forth to reap and to judge the nations,
To sound the trumpet in the four corners,
To cause the name of The Lord
To resound in all the earth...
Bow before The King, therefore;
Humble yourselves before The Holy One of Israel...
Lay yourselves upon the altar and be broken
Atop The Stone, and it shall bear you up;
Yet stand defiant, and you shall be crushed
Beneath the weight of The Mountain[6]...
For I do not change, says The Lord."
~
"Lo, multitudes of idols fill every corner! Both the believer and unbeliever bow down together and serve their gods! ALL nations worship the works of their own hands, for they have placed their own creations and the love of their own ideas above their Creator! False deities abound, while science and corrupt religion rule over them! Mere theories become truth and doctrine, and lawlessness is widely accepted! And behold, the love of money has become their new taskmaster, and materialism their god!
Sins of every kind imaginable flow through every land!
Yea, as a mighty river it flows into every nation,
Reaching unto new heights in wickedness as the walls
Are broken down, overtopped by these quickly rising waters!
The levees are eroded from beneath, they are
Undermined continually, widening the breach!...
Behold, a great flood of sin has ensued,
A terrible deluge covers the face of the whole earth,
And still the fear of The Lord is all but forgotten!...
THUS THE CUP OF THE WRATH
OF MY FURY IS COME TO THE FULL!
Behold, My Kingdom comes, and My will shall be done on earth as in Heaven. Even as I had purposed it from the beginning, so shall it be done to this generation. For My throne is set high above the highest heavens, and the earth is but a footstool set beneath My feet. FOR I AM THE LORD! YAHUWAH IS MY NAME!
Therefore, let the enemies of The Lord be gathered!"
~
"Behold, the dark clouds gather, the lightning flashes on the horizon, yet no one seeks shelter, not one abides in safety, nor does the sound of thunder make them afraid. For they are a foolish people, a most arrogant generation, a corrupt people heavy-laden with sin; a people who make many lofty assertions without knowledge, a wholly ignorant people who reject the knowledge of God, yet embrace every corrupt theory created by men of science, a people who know not their right hand from their left! Says The Lord."
@@daffymore so the universe had the will to create life?
@@peace8655 yes, i think this vision was present in the creation, yet i don't know how.
@@mikefanofmovies dude please do a TLDR
can jesus microwave a burrito so hot, he himself could not eat it?
"Well, sir, of course He could, but then again... wow as melon scratchers go, that's a honey doodle."
Can God make a boulder so heavy that he can't lift it?
Can God make a square with 3 sides?
Can God add 1+1 and get the answer 5?
God can only do what is logically possible. To answer your question, no because Jesus didn't have a microwave.
A burrito is never too hot to eat
OpCharlieBravo I thought that Jesus was reincarnated and went directly to heven. And in heven you would be immortal.
burritos contain both meat and cheese and the combination of milk and meat is not kosher. Jesus was a religious Jew and according to Christians kept the law perfectly so, therefore kept kosher, so no, he couldn't eat it.
Be open minded people.
listen to each other, that's how we learn,adapt and grow.
FAITH:
Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
The speedster,Plato was giving u wisdom and you talk down to him
Veridicus Maximus that's a straw man definition of faith. you have faith that your friend will pay your money back because of his past actions. You believe the doctor won't kill you because you believe he's well-trained and has experience doing surgery. you might start to lose your faith so to speak when your emotions take over and you start to panic.... faith is the art of holding on to what your mind has once logically accepted based on facts, despite changing moods. the best Christian writers will tell you that if you believe in something for absolutely no good reasons then you're stupid person. faith has to be formulated on reason and logic or else it will change on a whim.
thanks plato
Plato yeah but if you are too open minded, your mind will get filled with CRAP like all these evolutionists and liberals.
If it is possible.... It can and will happen. Just because it will take an eternity to roll those dice, doesn't mean that you won't ever get 70 6s in a row. Imagine this... You wouldn't be here unless the universe was perfect like it is. There was literally eternity for those dice to roll and roll and roll until those 70 6s finally came into play. It's not like "Well the odds are low and it will take more than 10 minutes to get 70 6s in a row so that means its impossible". This isn't logic, this is just a feeling, no proof.
And that eternity was created by? Science doesn't know. And we're talking about more than a pair of dice. We're talking about Everything...not Trillions of things, but a much larger number, all happening at the right time. And it has CONTINUED to happen for 14 billion years, with no errors. Do you believe it was just a lucky accident??? CAN trillions of dice turn up sixes at the same time..even if you have forever? Can they continue doing it for billions of years? iS that possible?
@@bondojoe8161 what you're suggesting is a paradox. Because if nothing can be created from nothing, which seems like what you are suggesting, then god can not have come from nothing can it? To assert that there is a god simply because we can't understand what's around us is astonishing. Just because science doesn't know why something happens doesn't mean that there is no logical explanation that has not been discovered yet. Science is a field that is always in the present, we are always learning more about the universe, and many things we are learning today would have been chalked up to divine intervention just a few centuries ago.
@@dalidirani2740 GOD has always existed. We know that the Universe was created. Scientists agree on that point. 14 billion years ago. But just SUPPOSE that the universe was always here or created by something else. Surely you don't think it was a giant, CONTINUOUS accident, do you? NOTHING that exists on earth exists without intelligence. Name ONE THING that is organized and created itself. Did your TV build itself? Your car, your house? Did any of the parts in those things invent themselves, or happen by accident? Organization REQUIRES intelligent direction. Anyone should be able to grasp that.
@@bondojoe8161 that is a paradox. Because then who created god. And then who created the god the created god. That doesn’t make any sense.
@Erik Hampshire I love that you guys speak of it as if it is fact, is it possible, yes, is there reason to believe it’s complete and utter bullshit, yes. Have a good life tho
"God does not play dice with the universe." - Albert Einstein
Not the same God.
He didn’t, He designed it meticulously. But rolling the dice is what atheism believes.
@@Itsallawesome No, it doesn't. The environment isn't perfectly suited for us at all, we adapted to roughly survive in a tiny part of it.
Einstein was wrong. Quantum physics is based on uncertanty and randomness. Einstein didn't want this to be true
@Xipli Young No i am Not. Einstein wanted a deterministic universe but Quantum physics is based on uncertanty and randomness.
Who is to say the universe only had one shot at existence?
Exactly, the universe might have "thrown a dice" trillions of times and then it had the chance to exist.
fair point!
The guy in the vid actually kinda addresses this at 3:41
There's also the possibility that there's only ONE possible configuration.
Just saying "If things were different, then things would be different" is NOT an argument for god. It's not an argument for ANYTHING, it's just a statement.
Nobody. The universe went instantly from nonexistence to an extremely fine-tuned existence
I can't understand it... its too incredible.. must be a God.... or maybe I just don't know enough.
rowifi Or maybe we just rolled sixes 70 times in a row and so the universe was born and now we are here and god was not needed.
Tinopinoh u will see in the end. you'll regret everything
TheGqppleHero Sure buddy.
Tinopinoh just a warning remember this comment
TheGqppleHero Science has proven bible wrong multiple times and just to quickly prove god a myth i will ask you this question, If god can do anything can he create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it? and if he can than lifting the rock is something he cannot do.
Hello sir, between 6,5,4,3,2,1 in a row & 6,4,2,6,4,2 in a row by throwing a dice, which is easier to occur in mathematic?
Thanks in advance 😊
I'm pretty sure chances are the exact same for both
@@high_intelligence_specimen same
Yup they are definitely the same
If we consider a perfect dice, a perfect floor, perfect gravitation, no air resistence and a truly random throw, it should be the same. There is probably way more to that, but I think you get the Idea
Excellent video depicting an example for an argument from ignorance.
"I don't understand how the cosmic laws of physics worked towards allowing life to start, therefore, gawd did it"
then how do we explain where the energy from atoms comes from (reffering to the moving particals) Because after all physics tells us that nothing can be moved without an external force,but it is. ? If you actually look it up and keep Your mind open it is not that absurd. There is obviously not any proofs which is why its still is a theory, same goes With big bang. Big bang can be explained by Logic to a certain extent, but if Your read more on that as well you will find out there is alot of the theory that is blank or not fully explained because they cant explain it. My view on it is that organized religion is a misconception of god. We can not simply believe that god is a man/women/dog or creature, but I do believe that there is a god. The Source of energy, and a creator. And in that case where did the universe come from, based on Logic we simply know that there cant be anything if it is not created.
Sorry, but there is proof of where the energy from the atoms
comes from; it is explained in the law of conservation of energy, where if we
trace a long chain of events, the energy on earth is fueled by the nuclear
reactions from the sun, derived from more nuclear reactions going back billions
of years, ultimately starting from the big bang.
We don’t know what was before the big bang, or what triggered it, or why it went "bang" as the evidence suggests,
but that does not mean “then god did it”. You are just confirming what I stated
about the argument from ignorance. Might as well say that my cat has secret
superpowers and he went back in time to create everything we know and established
the laws of physics; I will accept this as true until I find more tangible evidence
that shows otherwise. Do you see how silly that sounds?
I agree that we cannot explain everything, but saying it’s
only a theory is a misunderstanding that many people fall for. A scientific
theory is not a “guess”, an “idea” or a “hunch”, like is a well-substantiated
explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific
method and repeatedly tested and confirmed, preferably using a written,
pre-defined, protocol of observations and experiments.
It’s okay to say “I don’t know”, and due to time constrains
(billions of years), we might never find the answer; we can just study the
evidence, test it, make predictable models and document it. I know that it
sucks not knowing everything, but we shouldn’t make shit up just because we don’t
know, especially giving credit to a myth from the Bronze Age.
Elmer Homero I fully understand that, and i dont agree With organized religion but i do fully understand why People are searching for a spiritual life and an after life. It might not be true, it might be true (eventhough its not likely). Thats why we Call it belief, isnt it. I do not see a problem With People believing in a creator, but i do have a problem With following man made rules which was made for Power and Money. I personally believe that there is a creator and that Jesus was a messanger as ive said. I know how that sounds if you base it on Logic but its simply a way to hope for something more after im and my loved once are gone. I do not hold that belief to make less of my life which some would have if you would follow some scripture like the qua ran or the bible. I did not mean to say that atoms are moved by "god" but we will see in time, i do think there is a Source for this energy however, and untill we can scienticly prove that there is no creator. You can Call me ignorant for believing that but i simply do not see anything negative about it, nor would i live my life differently then if I would not believe it.
Martin Ellingsen - I agree with your point of view on religion, but I would go a step further and say that religion is the cancer of society; fuck religion, it's about time to ditch those fairytales.
It baffles me not completely knowing how everything started, and I hope that someday we can find out. In the meantime I will keep searching for the truth through scientific evidence, logic, and reason. Not stupid dice and invalid arguments appealing to myths.
Elmer Homero religion and organized religion is not the same thing. The difference lies here, either you believe in a god , a spiritual life or just something bigger for the questions we cant answer. If you follow a organized religion however you follow man made rules, a man made society, a social club if you like. The belief of a bigger power or an almighty god is not negative, it is actually physiologically proven that we as humans has the urge for some grand plan or purpose as a concept, not only in this life but whatever comes after. How organized religion has used it to gain money and power is toxic, not the belief in itself.
If I spill a jar of marbles on the ground, the odds that the marbles spill out *exactly* as they do are probably 1 billion to 1. Therefore, god spilled the marbles.
But if every marble had a dot on it, you would never be able to spill the jar of marbles and have every dot pointing upwards and lining up in a straight line. You could spill a jar of marbles trillions of times and get different results, and everyone of those results have the same probability of occurring, but only one probability exists where they are all perfectly lined up and pointing upwards. Is one marble off by a millimeter? Doesn't count. Is one of the marbles pointing to a difference of one degree? Doesn't count.
Solidatermx - Oh so we're the "all dots perfectly up" universe are we? Of course we would think that. The point you're missing is this: there are likely billions of ways that the universe *could* have come about, each of which would have given rise to different conditions, different chemicals, different elements, different everything. No doubt life would be impossible in many of these universes. But it's also extremely likely that different *kinds* of life could have arisen in many (if not all) of these possible universes.
And those kinds of life are no more "perfectly aligned and finely tuned" than ours. They're just the only kind of life that can arise in the conditions of their universes, just like we're the only kind of life that can arise in ours. So yes, our DNA-based, oxygen breathing, temperature sensitive, highly lubricated kind of life would probably be an impossible results of the majority of the millions of ways the universe could have come about, but a different kind of life would do just fine. And that different kind of life would probably spend the first few thousand years of their existence rejoicing in how "finely tuned" their universe is.Yeah, finely tuned for *their* kind of life. Not ours.
In other words, no matter how the marbles fall, a religious marble will observe the pattern it's in and say "wow, this pattern is SO special, all the marbles fell in a finely tuned way so that this exact pattern happened. It's a miracle!" While a scientific marble will say "Yeah, well, as much as you like this particular pattern, there are literally billions of other patterns that could have occurred if the marbles had fallen differently."
+Solidatermx What if your marbles had a thousand dots on it, each dot corresponding to a number. No matter what the outcome is of you rolling those marbles, it had a very small chance of happening. The problem with this man's argument is that, even though rolling 70 sixes in a row has a probability of 1 in 10^55, every other possible outcome has a probability of 1 in 10^55. I f you rolled a completely random number every time, 70 times, that order would still only have a probability of 10^55. If he predicted that he would roll 70 sixes, and then rolled seventy sixes, that would be amazing, but it would only be amazing because we have something to compare it to. We have nothing to compare our current universe to, because this is the only universe we know.
Scott K your opinion doesn't matter because you're just a collective of neurological activity which is based on the matter that creates it which is governed by the fixed laws of the universe. my opinion also doesn't matter. you have no right to be upset about anyone having a different opinion than you, and I have no right to be upset about anyone have been different opinion than me just plain out but our brain tell this to... and because of that we don't really have any free will... just biological robots responding to stimuli. and your long, it was a waste of time because if there's nothing neyond this reality none of this matters at all.... all the good or bad you wont matter. so since you don't believe in God or anything else do yourself a favor and stop wasting time because this is all the life you have and as I said none of our opinions matter anyways because we don't really control what we think.
DesertMarine - "your opinion doesn't matter because you're just a collective of neurological activity which is based on the matter that creates it which is governed by the fixed laws of the universe"
It's really sad that that you think the absence of a divine being completely strips humanity's goals and priorities of their importance. Are you saying that the alleviation of suffering, the fostering of well-being and happiness, and the prospering of humanity are meaningless and arbitrary if such things don't align with the will of a divine being? Are you saying that in a godless world, we might as well let children die of hunger or at the hands of ethnic cleansers?
Apparently, something only "matters" to you if an all-powerful dictator tells you it should. At which point it doesn't *actually* matter to you; you're just following instructions and/or hoping to reap reward/avoid punishments. If god told you that eating crackers and wine mattered, you'd do it religiously... oh wait...
"you have no right to be upset about anyone having a different opinion than you"
Who's upset? I'm just over here making reasonable arguments. Unlike most religious folks, I don't get spooled up and defensive when someone disagrees with me. I'll make an earnest attempt to try and convince them of my reasoning, but that doesn't mean I'm taking the disagreement personally. It's not like I'm going to embark on a crusade or anything.
"because of that we don't really have any free will... just biological robots responding to stimuli"
Yeah maybe. But since when does something being depressing or inconvenient make it untrue? Cancer is really depressing and inconvenient, but that doesn't make it fictional.
"The odds are low so that means god!"
The fact that these people remain so smug with such pathetic fallacies is just aggravating.
ztlabraptor211 odds rule everything around us, and 1 x 10 to the 55 is not pathetic. It is unbelievably definite. Looks like somebody got an F in math class.
mohannad bakain you're assuming our comprehension of math can be used to completely understand the universe and it's origins. This is very foolish and narcissistic. We're animals, intelligent animals, but still animals and there are things we don't know and things we'll never know. The fact that you're using math, a human construct, to explain the unknowable natural origins of the universe (especially considering we have proof of the age of the universe and evolution that contradict your mathematics) is simply bigoted.
As well, since you brought it up, what are the odds that a giant omnipotent eternal creator that there's no evidence for and nobody has ever seen or heard is real? What are the odds a woman was made from a mans rib? What are the odds you're religion is the correct one out of the 5000 that exist? Grow up kid.
+mohannad bakain - "1 x 10 to the 55 is not pathetic. It is unbelievably definite. Looks like somebody got an F in math class."
I'm guessing that somebody would be you, then, if you think that somehow justifies a belief in God.
Tell you what, thoroughly shuffle a standard deck of 52 cards. Now, what are the odds of that particular deck happening? Is it higher or lower than the one in 10^55 odds you mentioned above?
I'll give you a moment. No cheating...
OK, the answer is the odds of that particular deck happening is approximately one in 8x10^67. In other words, it's a number with a dozen more decimal places than the one you're so fond of mentioning. In fact, if you actually did shuffle a deck, the odds are that that's the first time a deck has ever been shuffled in that particular order in all of history. That's just how improbable that deck is. Really!
So, is that deck you shuffled a miracle of God? Or is it simply the product of random chance?
This is why long odds do not equal God, and why you shouldn't be accusing others of failing math.
ztlabraptor211 Mr. Chance is very powerful. Everything is just randomness and natural processes.
HiEv the resulting deck would be chance. But try choosing a specific combination. On deck of the 8 x 10^67 decks. Would it show up? No. That is the point. Chance doesn't work on that big of a number, that big of a scale. Still an F I presume.
A better analogy for the existence of our universe would be shuffling a deck of cards. Each time you shuffle a deck of cards, it is extremely unlikely that that exact combination has ever been seen before or will ever be seen again. The number of possible combinations is 52 factorial, or over 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. So the chance of you getting that order of cards from a shuffle is 1 in 8*10^67. But just because that exact combination was very unlikely doesn’t mean that the cards were placed in that order intentionally. Yes, the chance of you rolling a six 70 times in a row with a dice is very unlikely, but so is any other set of numbers you get from rolling dice 70 times in a row. Roll dice 70 times in a row yourself, it doesn’t matter what numbers you get be it 5,6,4,3,6,1,2,4,3…. It’s still a one in 10^55 chance of getting that exact combination. And you got that combination, even though it was so unlikely. This video is intentionally deceptive, and the argument itself makes no sense if you know anything about probability.
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much.
Hell is real.
You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:).
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Ephesians 1:13
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God Bless:)
It's eternity, you want to spend it in heaven not hell. Please read the book of John, and ask God for understanding and He will show you. Please look into it.
The evidence is all there.
Also look up Lee Strobel " Case for Christ"
God Bless:)
The argument is that there was a specific order of cards being shuffled that required existence of life.
And it occurred.
Not that a random shuffle was required.
@@abiwalala exactly..! The thing is they explain the origin of life on the planet using the same logic..like the requirements to create a cell or a universe are just some random long irrelevant numbers.
@@amalahmad8354 Exactly man.
Subhanallah! The arrogant kaffirs the quran speaks about are finally showing themselves.
I think the point being made is that the random long incoherent chaotic string of numbers produces nothing. There is no point to consider a potential designer willing order.
you completely changed my outlook on life… I no longer think we were simply lucky, I think we were very very very very very lucky
Like very very lucky God decided to create us!?
@@jeremiahlugrain7818 no
U forgot to ad un before lucky
Use your intelligence assuming you have some - or if thats a stretch for you try rolling a dice with 6s - 70 times in a row
we are very lucky, simply slightly stronger eruption on our Sun can delete all life on Earth, just like that..., you even want know what hits you...
Does he not know numbers higher than trillion...? ._.
Lol
Trillion is the highest colloquial number. Nobody repeats the word "quadrillion" to refer to an incredibly large number, nor quintillion nor sextillion nor septillion, etc. etc. etc.
Guess not.
@Hand Sanitizer Do you unironically use numbers higher than a trillion to illustrate an incredibly large number? I don't, and I don't think I've ever heard someone do so.
@N Allen that was unnecessarily rude, they were just asking a question.
Haha. Because the chances are slim it must mean my own belief in a sky-daddy creating everything must be true.
well i imagine it doesn't mean it's not true either. the point is that no one should be ridiculed for placing a bet on something that no one has a concrete provable answer to.
Lack of evidence against god does not indicate his existence. The burden of proof lies on the person taking the affirmative position. Even if this video accurately described the probability of the universe, it is still not conclusive evidence for the existence of a god. The logical default position is atheism, and the only reason it isn't is because religion has existed longer than the scientific method.
He knows that lack of evidence against god does not indicate his existence. He cleary states near the end of the video that his purposes were only to prove that no one should be ridiculed for neither believing in god nor being an atheist, as there is no indefinite evidence for both of them.
No way. His stance is CLEARLY that the odds are too high for the universe to have been created without god. He sates this several times throughout the video. As proof, I submit to you the fact that at 3:25 he claims that someone "loaded the dice." Furthermore, being an atheist does not require evidence because it is the negative position, therefore stating that atheism has equally as much evidence as theism is a nonsensical statement that fundamentally makes no sense.
Yeah, there are a lot of flaws in the video, and some things he says contradict what he previously says... plus comparing the probability of a continious dice roll to the probability that the universe was created by chance is stupid altogether.
There are so many fallacies in this video that I have trouble deciding where to begin.
1) If the Universe is "fine-tuned" for life, then why is more than 99.999% of the Universe inhospitable to it? We can't exist (yet) in the middle of stars, or in the vast vacuum that fills the voids between the galaxies.
2) There is the assumption that his "70 rolls of sixes" is the only way that permits life, and we don't know this. As an example, a royal flush in cards is very lucky, but we could say that a duce, four, five, and nine of the same suit has the same odds of coming up. So, the arbitrary rules we assign to poker hands is what's important. We have no other examples of life beyond Earrh, so he makes sweeping assumptions from one example.
3) If God exists, then where does God come from? If God has always existed, then why not save a step and decide that the Universe has always existed? If the origin of God is an unanswerable question, then why not skip a step and decide that the origin of the Universe is an unanswerable question?
4) We may not understand many of the details about the origin of the Universe . . . but that doesn't mean that we should automatically invoke God just because we're unhappy that we don't know everything. To say that only God understands things that we don't know is very arrogant.
5) Even if I choose to be very pious and deeply religious . . . I would still be screwed out of Eternity when I die. There are--perhaps--over a hundred different sects in Christianity alone. While I'm sure that there are a few exceptions, each sect claims to have the correct way to worship God, while the competing sects are leading their flock astray . . . and their congregants are destined for Hell or eternal death. This means that out of the hundred or so sects, I have overwhelming odds of choosing the wrong one and going to Hell. The situation becomes much worse if I consider Judaism, Islam, and Buddhism (among many other religions). Atheism is a perfectly reasonable (and even comforting) choice under these circumstances.
6) Creationists and Biblical literalists hold up The Bible for answers about the origin of the Universe, and so forth . . . because it's true.
In 2 Chronicles 4:2 we find the Biblical view is that pi (the circumference of a circle divided by it's diameter) is exactly equal to 3 . . . except we know that pi is equal to 3.1415926 . . . , and that this an irrational number. Even if The Bible only sees the first digit as being important, then at least the irrational and transcendental nature of pi might have been alluded to.
The Biblical literalist will get irritated with this point, and claim that The Bible isn't a mathematical textbook, and I quite agree. However, this also means that The Bible isn't a textbook on geology, biology, anthropology, medicine, and/or physics either.
7) Biblical literalism can kill. Lightning was seen as being from God, so it was sacreligious and heretical to put lightning rods on church steeples (often the highest building in town). So--because God would never strike a church with lightning--this was the safest place to store gunpowder.
The Catholic church in Brescia, Italy, exploded and killed 2,000 people when lightning hit the steeple, and the 90 metric tons of gunpowder detonated and blew up 1/6 of the town. This happened on August 18, 1769, well after Benjamin Franklin invented the lightning rod and was pressuring society to put them on church steeples (to protect the bell ringers).
8) If religion can modify Biblical literalism to accommodate lightning rods, then why not accommodate physics, Big Bang comology, evolution, and LGBTQ people?
In any case, I've tried to give a civil, reasoned response to this video, and I hope people reply.
Thank you for your time and consideration in reviewing this lengthy post.
I wish everyone peace.
So do you think that life is a scary coincidence and that since earth had the most precise conditions for life to flourish is why we are here,and if so is math also a coincidence since it explains certainty which is highly unlikely if we just happened to come into existence, no offense to your point just curious....?
@@imded9208Earth doesn’t have the most precise conditions for life. It has experienced at least 5 mass extinction events, and natural disasters still occur. The habitable zone around the sun is also approximately 120million kilometres or 75 million miles wide, so not a small area. Math is also purely a theoretical thing that we developped to explain things, and so, it does.
Going back to your point of atheism being a comfort for you over religion, I totally get that and respect that. For me however, my comfort stems from believing in a God, but not believing in religion, I think the universe is too vast for a god to have such a tight and down to earth per say, I do believe in following great judgment and overall morality (the only thing I believe to be bigger than god) but I do not believe in a set religion, therefore giving me comfort that my afterlife (hopefully) will not be spent in eternal hell.
@@imded9208 The point is that humans aren't special, we just fallaciously think we are. Do you really think a god took an eternity to create something as useless as humans? You do realize that you have an ego that forces you to put yourself in the center of the universe? We are seriously goofy. The odds of any particular thing existing are astronomical. What are the odds of goofiness existing?
Was agreeing until you brought up the alphabet people
Ok so basically god exists because you can't accept the arbitrarity of your own existence?
Or maybe everything surrounding us is so amazing and spectacular that it would mean sheer ignorance to believe we are the product of "chance"
wtfuredead are you kidding or?
wtfuredead m - ya? Like the amazeball-spectacular mosquito, killing most people on earth every year, left and right, christians, muslims and everyone else. Or what about poop? If it is a creation of god, as what it is since your god created everything on earth even your intestines, why the fuk did he not make it rainbow coloured, strawberry flavored, and non lethal to eat? Naah, keep you blue eyed world creation vision for yourself..
Mikkel Christensen Those are some great questions! First of all, let's talk about relativism(in a more ordinary way). Think about a world where everything is rainbow-like pleasant. Pretty boring, ah? We need that delta of good and bad things in our lives. Therefore it makes sense for the "Engineer" of this Universe to allow for poop to exist in such an unpleasant state. Also, this setup with such various experiences allow our consciousness to learn and grow.
I can see where your rejection comes from, and is perfectly understandable. You expect for this God to give milk and honey to everyone in His creation. And it doesn't. And that makes people really pissed off! So there must not be any God because things are so bad around us!(of course, that is pretty hypocritical coming from me, as i had a fairly easy life so far)
About that mosquito tho... i really don't know what to say. I might come up with a bogus explanation, but i expect for you to understand the other things, as usually atheist have a little more brains than your average religious person(i am also not agreeing with any religion, but i see they have at least some purposes)
Safi Rouhi Yeah mind blowing
"Your conclusion is improbable therefore my conclusion is correct"
Aiden O'Neil not the argument being made sooooo what was the point of your comment?
@@dslayer418 yes it is
Your conclusion is that you don't know, so you can't invalidate the statement "God exists".
@@anakinskywalker5659 You don't know that unicorns don't exist. Therefore you can't invalidate my statement. See how ludicrous that sounds
@Aiden O'Neil unicorns do exist bruh, look it up
Atheist : God doesn't exi-
Me as an intellectual : _Let me take you to Las Vegas, lost one_
I only liked because your profile is papyrus
@@CC.07 Hmmm.. I see..
The Great Papyrus I liked it because it was funny
You are unworthy of the Great Papyrus
Bad joke
The fundamental flaw in these calculations ( that the makers of this video are well aware of) is that we are dealing with either infinite dice or an incomprehensible large number of dice .
If they are aware of this why would they have made this video
@@coin5207 because two reasons:
1. They already hear the explanation because they have experience with people that have the opposite claim.
2. Ofc 💵💸
@@coin5207 1. Because they try to prove something that cannot be proven. 2. Because they are probably religious people of some sort.
There is no flaw. It depends how you are looking at the problem. It simply shows the basic truth that the odds for this universe to exists are very low.
Doesn't the point you've just proven make the fact of an existence like this that much more improbable by chance?
If there are an infinite or incomprehensible number of dice, then we simply shouldn't exist, right? But we do, and all of the rules and laws in the universe with us (which each have their own set of incomprehensible dice)
I've just rolled a 6. followed by a 5. followed by a 4, followed by a 3, followed by a 2 and , finally,.. a 1. This proves I am a three dimensionally inverted duck billed platypus.
What an amazing strawman.
The pont is not the coincidence, te jpoint is that make sense (that why you identify the coincidence in first place), i mean, is not you roll the dice everytime a 6, and then a 4, and then you roll a black hole, and then an alien platypus, and then a 76543456, the point is you got a making sense numbers not a nonsense.
And yes you can argue that there are different universes with diferent laws, but now you will be in science fiction, and not actual science, having more faith than actual believers.
Nah mate, it proves you're an Aussie on a losing streak. Cheers, P.R.
@@geniuz4093 Not a strawman. He reduced the point made in the video into a caricature version that's easier to defeat. Oh wait...
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Everyone is gangsta until green dude had 1:7.500.000.000.000 ender pearl trade
Dream proves that god exists :0
@@falkster4045 dream proves he is god
@@randomdofando8458 when it cant be proven or disproven, its a realy bad argument
@@randomdofando8458 I can understand how you feel, but I do not feel sadisfied by Information i can not prove
Are you literally making a joke about dream on a video with nothing to do with dream other than it has chances. You probably think dream is the best player lmao.
He might be on to something here... I’ve seen how playing Monopoly proves my wife can become the devil.
Hand her over.. jk
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@@harambey Oh God, praise and thanksgiving be to you as it should be for the majesty of your face and the greatness of your authority Praise be to God. God chooses the hearts of the people he guides. Mentioning the mercy of Allah in his creatures. Allah has said:” All praise is to Allah, who has sent down upon His Servant Mohammed (peace and blessing of God are upon him)the Book and has not made therein any deviance”. It is my pleasure to invite you to worship Allah alone. I am eager to start by mentioning Surah Al-Fatihah, which is the greatest surah in the Quran. “1-In the Name of Allah-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.2- All praise is for Allah-Lord of all worlds, 3-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. 4-Master of the Day of Judgment. 5-You ˹alone˺ we worship and You ˹alone˺ we ask for help. 6-Guide us along the Straight Path, 7-the Path of those You have blessed-not those You are displeased with, or those who are astray.”. As our God revealed a number of heavenly books and messengers to invite people to worship him, we must read these heavenly books and see the stories of the messengers and look at the miracles of our gracious God to make certain that this is the God which deserves to be worshiped. in brief: The Holy Quran is the miracle of miracles; our God has revealed it as the last heavenly book. In addition, the Holy Quran has a lot of scientific miracles that the human brain needs to make certain that this book is from Allah( the creator). the only recommendation I can serve humanity with is to read the holy Quran the words of our God. check if the miracle is really there. This is a brief article about some of the scientific miracles that are present in the Holy Quran from more than 1400 years ago. Just check and see the wonderful comparison between religions that have been made by Doctor Zakir naik. He gathered the humans from a lot of places with a lot of religion to ask him about faith matters. His videos are found on TH-cam. Thank you for your listening brother. if you want to know some of the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran, look at this small article. 1drv.ms/b/s!AmL9SYpFyLhJaiDZWMe57FtRN5w?e=Ld3m8X
@august opus Oh God, praise and thanksgiving be to you as it should be for the majesty of your face and the greatness of your authority Praise be to God. God chooses the hearts of the people he guides. Mentioning the mercy of Allah in his creatures. Allah has said:” All praise is to Allah, who has sent down upon His Servant Mohammed (peace and blessing of God are upon him)the Book and has not made therein any deviance”. It is my pleasure to invite you to worship Allah alone. I am eager to start by mentioning Surah Al-Fatihah, which is the greatest surah in the Quran. “1-In the Name of Allah-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.2- All praise is for Allah-Lord of all worlds, 3-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. 4-Master of the Day of Judgment. 5-You ˹alone˺ we worship and You ˹alone˺ we ask for help. 6-Guide us along the Straight Path, 7-the Path of those You have blessed-not those You are displeased with, or those who are astray.”. As our God revealed a number of heavenly books and messengers to invite people to worship him, we must read these heavenly books and see the stories of the messengers and look at the miracles of our gracious God to make certain that this is the God which deserves to be worshiped. in brief: The Holy Quran is the miracle of miracles; our God has revealed it as the last heavenly book. In addition, the Holy Quran has a lot of scientific miracles that the human brain needs to make certain that this book is from Allah( the creator). the only recommendation I can serve humanity with is to read the holy Quran the words of our God. check if the miracle is really there. This is a brief article about some of the scientific miracles that are present in the Holy Quran from more than 1400 years ago. Just check and see the wonderful comparison between religions that have been made by Doctor Zakir naik. He gathered the humans from a lot of places with a lot of religion to ask him about faith matters. His videos are found on TH-cam. Thank you for your listening brother. if you want to know some of the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran, look at this small article. 1drv.ms/b/s!AmL9SYpFyLhJaiDZWMe57FtRN5w?e=Ld3m8X
@@maxotto9877 Oh God, praise and thanksgiving be to you as it should be for the majesty of your face and the greatness of your authority Praise be to God. God chooses the hearts of the people he guides. Mentioning the mercy of Allah in his creatures. Allah has said:” All praise is to Allah, who has sent down upon His Servant Mohammed (peace and blessing of God are upon him)the Book and has not made therein any deviance”. It is my pleasure to invite you to worship Allah alone. I am eager to start by mentioning Surah Al-Fatihah, which is the greatest surah in the Quran. “1-In the Name of Allah-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.2- All praise is for Allah-Lord of all worlds, 3-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. 4-Master of the Day of Judgment. 5-You ˹alone˺ we worship and You ˹alone˺ we ask for help. 6-Guide us along the Straight Path, 7-the Path of those You have blessed-not those You are displeased with, or those who are astray.”. As our God revealed a number of heavenly books and messengers to invite people to worship him, we must read these heavenly books and see the stories of the messengers and look at the miracles of our gracious God to make certain that this is the God which deserves to be worshiped. in brief: The Holy Quran is the miracle of miracles; our God has revealed it as the last heavenly book. In addition, the Holy Quran has a lot of scientific miracles that the human brain needs to make certain that this book is from Allah( the creator). the only recommendation I can serve humanity with is to read the holy Quran the words of our God. check if the miracle is really there. This is a brief article about some of the scientific miracles that are present in the Holy Quran from more than 1400 years ago. Just check and see the wonderful comparison between religions that have been made by Doctor Zakir naik. He gathered the humans from a lot of places with a lot of religion to ask him about faith matters. His videos are found on TH-cam. Thank you for your listening brother. if you want to know some of the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran, look at this small article. 1drv.ms/b/s!AmL9SYpFyLhJaiDZWMe57FtRN5w?e=Ld3m8X
This all hinges on his assumption this universe is the “first time”
We have no way of knowing if we are the 1st or last attempt. We’re only going to know about the the time when it actually worked.
And we don't know if another universe with a different set of constants might also produce life. Theists keep repeating that the our constants are so "finely tuned" that life wouldn't be possible any other way. Well, we simply don't know that.
You are shooting an arrow at a piece of wood to then draw a target around it and say you hit it right in the bulls eye.
Dead right, he's fitting the universe into his belief system.
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If you bang your head really hard against a wall repeatedly, you will gain super powers.
That’s good,
You have no idea what goes around outside our planet do you? Physics is screaming at us the improbability of our existence
We only see the one time life actually developed, but not all the times it didn't develop.
And all theists (like you) say nothing intelligent.
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No it was directed at a person who has since deleted their post.
@@j-joe-jeans oh ok my bad
@@FirstNameLastName-se1bz NP :)
Yup, simply put.
"It hit 70 rolls of the number 6 the first time."
How would you know this is the first time?
Exactly what I was thinking.
Eduard Wolfsmilch how do u know it is not the first time
@@dhruvmaslekar Because the universe does not only consist of one place. It is infinite, so, the "rolling of dice" could happen at infinite places in the universe all at once. But he failed to mention that.
that's exactly what I thought!
@@dhruvmaslekar i do not claim to know that it is not the first time. The person in the video makes the assumption that it is, but we do not have any way of confirming if that is true or not.
Since he is the one relying on the assumption that this is the first time, he is the one who has to prove that assumption. If he can't do that, he is just shifting the question from "do you believe in god?" To "do you believe this is the first time a universe has existed?", and we are back where we started: an assumption which one can believe to be true or not, with no proof either way.
Isn't it ponder-worthy to think that if one has a way with words one can convince anyone anything?
Yeah...it's called a lying liberal politician.
Yeah, just like creationists twisting the words of a document (the bible) made thousands of years ago to explain how the world came to be.
This instead of just accepting that we don't know yet
@@ronalddavidleindecker3358maga guy
I always loved the "It's too improbable so I'm just going to assume it's actually impossible." shit argument. See, what people fail to realize is the reason we even have winners in the lottery in the first place. Imagine if every lottery was played with just one ticket per drawing, what are the chances then? Unbelievably low. So why do we win? Because there isn't just one ticket, there's a number of tickets that's comparable to the extremely low chance of winning. Effectively turning a 1 in millions chance into something much more likely like 1/5 that someone will win during a drawing.
The chance of a planet that supports abiogenesis is extremely low, but what you must realize is the shear number of planets out there that are essentially tickets in this drawing of the lottery of life. There are plenty of tickets being played constantly to give life a damn good chance. So stop with the whole "It's impossible because it's improbable." nonsense.
Yes, but the argument is all about the universe as a whole, or at least one variety of the argument. Having a space with stable physical properties and multiple planetary systems may well lead to the development of life on some of those planets, but when we take the reasoning to the universe, it is not so simple, especially since the number of non-life-permitting universes will be much, much greater than the ones that would permit life. The lottery analogy would not hold in this case, unless there are multiple universes, or a law that necessitates physical laws that are life-permitting. It would be more like John Leslie's analogy, whereby a group of professional shooters in a prison execute thousands of prisoners per day, and then it turns out that one of the prisoners actually survives the ordeal. Wouldn't it be surprising that he survived? It is an interesting argument, but depending on how it is put forward, it can easily crumble.
I enjoy the lottery metaphor. Might borrow it in the future.
DENYOURMAKER Impossibility only occurs when the chance is 0%. Anything above that, no matter how small, is still not impossible.
ThePSXHive Yes but an infinite number of universes cancels out any chance no matter how low. If you play the lottery with infinite tickets, you are guaranteed to win no matter how low the chance is when playing only one ticket.
DENYOURMAKER lol, I guess by your logic, no one ever wins the lottery. No one ever finds diamonds. No one ever does anything or has anything happen to them when those things have really low chances because low chance = impossible. XD
This wouldn’t leave my recommendations, so I finally watched it
God thanks god 🙏
Omd 😂
Yes I wasted some of my day as well.
God is speaking to you my friend 🙌💖
@@gabetalks9275
You hear voices? Seek help.
This didn't start off too bad to be honest, but it got progressively worse as the video went on, so let's break it down bit by bit:
1:47-1:52 "What if you applied that thinking to us? What are the odds of us being here?" What indeeed; first of all, you'd be making the assumption that there is only one trial, that there has only ever been one universe and that there was a definite "start" to what exists (which itself is a very bold claim), and that this universe is the first and only to have ever existed. AND you need make the assumption that only one possible scenario exists where life could exist as well, but I don't see how you would quantify this. But MORE importantly, and irrespective of the accuracy of this statistical argument, your argument isn't cohesive - let's posit, for instance, that the cosmic dice were rolled and they DIDN'T roll in our favour. Then, we wouldn't be here. The way you argue seems to take for granted that we SHOULD be here and that assuming we came by chance is unreasonable, but this itself is an assumption I don't think anybody has the right to make. IF the dice were rolled and did not roll in our favour then we would not be here; us being here is only evidence that, however the dice rolled, they were rolled in such a way that we could live. I'd only be compelled to believe in "intelligent design" if then dice were rolled such that life COULDN'T exist, but yet here we are; then, and only then, might I have some reason to believe there was any form of design involved.
2:00 how did you get this figure for the (un)likelihood of the universe expanding at a rate suitable for the precipitation of elements? How did you quantify the number of possible scenarios branching from the big bang and then how did you quantify how many of them suit the state of our present universe? How do you know that the universe could ever have started expanding at a different rate? What if the rate of the expansion of the universe is intrinsic to itself? This seems like a bold claim and you've evidenced nothing to warrant it.
2:32 again, "first time"... you said yourself, if the expansion of the universe was any slower (and I'm taking you for granted on this point), then it would collapse back in on itself... so let's posit that it did this, what happens? Well, the universe collapsed in on itself, supposedly to a point, and that sounds like where the big bang started in the first place... I'm deeply concerned at this point that you're comfortable asserting that this is the first time a universe has existed.
3:12 and this is where people critically fail to understand statistics "it can't be chance!".
Yes, it can.
The odds of you rolling 70 of any given face consecutively are undoubtedly low, but pretend you roll a dice 70 times. There will be an ordered sequence of faces that you rolled that is equally have likely to popped up as ANY other sequence; so when you roll that dice 70 times, the sequence you rolled was exactly this unlikely to have been rolled and yet, you will no doubt have rolled it. 70 sixes is equally as likely as every other distinct ordered roll, and to claim that you can't roll this by chance is to claim the same thing about every other roll (since every outcome is equally likely), which is to claim that you can't have any set of results at all... which is, of course, ridiculous.
3:16 again, we don't know how many trials there were, and secondly, we don't have to assume it was chance. We are here, we exist, and we can each observe for ourselves that we exist (cogito, ergo sum) so necessarily the universe must have evolved in such a way to permit the formation of something that can think... at what point is chance involved? I can observe that it happened, and sure maybe it turns out that it was incredibly unlikely to happen but, ultimately, it has already happened. I am not standing at the big bang predicting it will happen, I am standing here and now and observing that it must have (or rather, something must have happened).
3:25 pretty much the same mistake here as you've been making the whole way through; you're assuming one trial, same mistakes as at 1:47, would be more inclined to believe in a god if things DIDN'T make sense, etc. Also, VERY ironic that you should use The Creation of Adam which is itself a critique of religion haha
3:41 begging the question a bit here with "speculative other theory", which again is ironic because you're presenting a speculative other theory... also, the Many Worlds Interpretation is a current theory for Quantum Mechanics which describes not infinite, but very very many different realities in which we are only one. And there is evidence for this theory, it wouldn't have gained much traction otherwise, and to my understanding there is research being done presently to verify or disprove the MWI.
3:55 And again, since we have evidence for believing the MWI (not proof, but no less experimental evidence which gives favour to the MWI), it is far less a "faith position" than it is a gander at a complete theory for Quantum Mechanics. Positing that an intelligent being set the world into motion from the start is a faith position, because it is not possible to evidence a claim like this.
4:03 "perfectly reasonable conclusion" and yet, the primary reason people have for believing in your God is ultimately because of a text, no doubt many times edited and revised between here and it's origins... reasonable means you have reason for believing something; as of typing this comment, I believe that I will post it because I am in the process of writing this comment and intend to post it. That is my reason for believing something that I believe, but I see no reason for your beliefs.
But really, the worst thing about this video is your palming it off as rational argument by masking your logical inconsistencies; I honestly don't know what compels you to do this, but it's bad for people. Sheit, I've just wasted a good ten or fifteen minutes writing this. We should all be more productive members of society than this, especially you who made the video.
that is what we call a metaphor; I am using it as a synonym for chance or probability, and not a literal rolling of any dice
Miko Thanks for writing this, I couldn't have explained it any better!
This is what I like to see. An actual argument against the video, instead of commenting on the guy's punchable face, or pedantically mocking how he says "dice."
Auraum No worries! I'm glad you took the time to read it, thank you :D
Joe Shmoe I'm glad you liked it! Yeah, those kinds of comments aren't really good for any of us! =)
Yet, if there are countless expansions that happened, are happening and will keep happening in the future besides the one that created our so ideal universe - then this doesn’t really apply at all. The total expanse of all existence may be as old as is imaginable, therefore the dice could have been rolled for a long enough period of time (in the grand scheme of all that there is including outside our own universe) for this “perfect” roll to occur and create ours.
was just thinking the same when watching! How can we know that those trillions of non-stable expansions didn't occur before?
if the big bang created space matter and time all in one from a single point like einstein says do you think there is somthing outside of that space matter and time?
@@vitorisi1 Other alternate universes also supposedly exist outside our own universe - potentially in limitless numbers.
@@sergeifradindelarenaudiere4618 completely theoraetical so bassicly the same as me believing in god but there is more proof for god than multiple universes and that belief just leaves more questions
@@sergeifradindelarenaudiere4618 ask me anything about god im happy to try my best to awnser
At first we thought the Earth was flat, scientists disagreed.
Then we thought there was no America, scientists disagreed.
We thought Earth was the only planet, scientists disagreed.
We thought Sun was different from stars, scientists disagreed.
We thought everything revolves around the Earth, scientists disagreed.
See the pattern?
We think there is a god, scientists disagree.
How many times did science manage to prove something and how many times did religion manage to prove something?
I'll stick with science, thanks!
sounds like a good bet for me ;)
Correlation is not Causation... Also not all scientists disagreed (only a couple) and then the idea spread.
:))
Evilsamar many scientist are religious. I'm Christian and I love science. Just cuz there is a pattern doesn't mean that the next logical step is true
Thegreenbeanfightingmachine It doesn't but is most likely to be true.
I imagined number x, can you guess which one it is?
A little help:
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,x
I think logic, and following a pattern can help you very much.
miningape How does your court atorney argument apply here? I don't understand.
In short, we have a low chance of happening on accident. Saved you
4m 26-30sec
Edit: Guys stop fighting we can all just go out for dinner or hug it out or something
@peremil05 something had to cause universe to come into existence
@peremil05 you need intelligence behind creation no intelligence no creation
Why does he talk of only rolling one dice?
@@EFDawahWiseLanternDen Why that? What says that?
@@prototype014 Ever seen an iphone created by itself ?? Human cell or dna is even more complicated 100000X more thats why we humans can create an iphone and not an human cell we are limited beings
This is such ludicrous philosophical trickery. You yourself admit in your dice analogy that, after rolling a dice for long enough, you’d get 70 sixes in a row. You SAID it. Therefore, by YOUR OWN argument, after enough “attempts” at starting a universe, you’d get one just like this one. The length of time it would take for that to happen is likely to be incomprehensible to our limited human minds, but just because it’s hard for us to conceptualise it, doesn’t mean it’s not true. History has been filled with these ridiculous arguments that say “oh the universe is just TOO complex to be a fluke” because we are intellectually incapable of grasping the scale of the numbers involved. It’s human-centred arrogance of the highest order, and then to make the jump from “oh well, I can’t grasp it” to “therefore God must have done it” is such a ridiculous leap.
3:14 "But we don't have any scientific evidence for it" Same can be said for your sky daddy.
Did you watch the video?
He knows that lack of evidence against god does not indicate his existence. He cleary states near the end of the video that his purposes were only to prove that no one should be ridiculed for neither believing in god nor being an atheist, as there is no indefinite evidence for both of them.
GeoVaporizer atheism is a lack of belief in a god/gods, not a belief that there is no god/gods.
Thus, a lack of belief in something is valid, so long as the belief you lack isn't proven correct.
Essentially, until a god is proven to exist, lacking a belief in god is valid, because nothing points to it. Its just speculation. Pastafarians (the flying spaghetti monster) may be correct and Christians may be wrong, but until it is proven, what reason do you have to believe other than threats from a book and some internal emotional turmoil?
I guess that makes sense.
Hmm, what if I'm not an atheist, yet I don't believe in any form of sky-pops. You do realize there are explanations beside those two?
Imagine rolling a seven on six sided dice
I'm still trying to imagine all the people living in harmony. Reportedly, it's easy if you try.
Only Jesus would be able to do that
Not even God can do that
Of course he can he is omnipotent
.....aliens
You're going to have to try harder than that buddy.
That could be 99% of the population. Try to narrow it down a bit more.
Sloth from The Goonies lol
Dan Walter lol dude
Dan Walter ur pretty Funny
Sloth from The Goonies nice man hope you're proud
No. Firstly it would be pretty strange for us to find ourselves in a universe we couldn't exist in. So of course we can exist here, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
So if you have a scenario where you have life being unlikely to arise on any particular planet then you'd expect a scenarios where you have a gigantic universe, with countless trillions of stars and planets, under such scenario some of them are bound to have the conditions for life to arise.
We can appeal to the natural world for possible solutions because we do know that the natural world exists and it has demonstrated profound explanatory power to explain things we previously didn't understand. We have no knowledge of your universe creating/life creating genie who poofs universes and life out of nothing. We have never seen one of those and we have no indication that one exists or is even possible. Nevermind the fact that any time someone introduces is to the deity they say is the explanation for everything, we find them to be full of absurdities, contradictions and blatant falsehoods.
Does spontaneous generation exist...
couldn't agree more.
@@GarageStudio7 ?
@@Knighted_Owl Does spontaneous generation exist according to science?
@@GarageStudio7 Spontaneous Generation "the supposed production of living organisms from nonliving matter, as inferred from the apparent appearance of life in some supposedly sterile environments." Yeah, how do you think the first cell came into existence?
This guy said nothing but facts in this video. He's not saying there is a god. He is merely suggesting that that the odds are almost impossible and it could all be explained by an intelligent creator. We need to be more open-minded. Don't just dismiss something because you don't agree with it. Take the time and actually think for yourself. Look at the facts. And make a decision. The amount of dislikes on this video and all these hateful comments show that people just aren't willing to accept contradicting ideas. Original Sin: "the human nature to believe what we want to even if you know it's wrong"
Ok I'm not saying that this guy is right that there is a God. I'm saying we should be more open minded about things like this.
Please excuse any grammar mistakes. (I broke my right hand)
Silo Walker well you have to. When talking theoretically
Hypothetically ... not theoretically
How the FIRST concept of God came to be doesn't really matter. Many great minds have though of the possibility of a supreme being, because it is a valid hypothesis.
Now about the Bible being rewritten a lot of times, that doesn't really matter... there are many religions that believe in God(s), but it doesn't mean you have to bring up religion when talking about God (God is just one of the names for an intelligent force that controls everything in the Universe).
In my opinion, this video shows a decently thought out hypothesis, that there is a greater being that controls the flow of the universe. It doesn't talk about religion or any of that nonsense, so don't bring that up please.
Pyrotron But what are the odds of there being an intelligent creator??
That is something that can't be measured.
Here's a fun fact: roll a die 70000 times. What are the odds to roll exactly the sequence you rolled? Unimaginably improbable. Yet you still rolled it.
That is so big brain.This comment section just didn't get it
I think that’s only be true if you wrote down that particular sequence, then rolled it. Then yes it would be unimaginably improbable
Incorrect, the reason you’d have to write it down before hand is because there’s no probability if you don’t know what the probability is of. It’s just a random roll, know why you still got it? Because by saying any roll is the right one you’re saying “what are the chances of me rolling up a random sequence of numbers by rolling a random sequence of numbers”. The error here should be quite obvious but you’re really trying hard not to believe in God, I understand. Also though, the universe isn’t random, it isn’t simply any sequence of numbers because we fit together perfectly like the most specific key and padlock in the universe. The human genome is perfect (no macro evolutionary genes that are cast off), the ecosystem and the solar system and everything science and physics have discovered all work as one. Let me ask you this, if you threw the parts of an iPhone against the wall, what do you think the chances are of it falling into perfect order and screwing itself shut? Or perhaps try a car, computer, planet, or universe. Come back here when you have the probability and we can talk buddy.
@@JohnCena-iv6id You are welcome to present your calculations for the probability of any life appearing at some point in any random physically possible Universe. The Universe we are in now, had to exist for 13 billion years for this to happen. If our Universe is a consequence of existence of any previous Universe that might have no life in it, it means that that previous Universe also played a part in our existence, therefore by extension that Universe also supports life at some point, albeit it would have taken more than 13 billion year to get to it. And so on.
If you want us to believe in God, then in addition to that you also have to prove that God created the Universe, or the opposite, that some Universe created God, i.e. a being that can pretend to be a burning bush, demand human sacrifice, and force a donkey to speak ancient Hebrew (if you are referring to the god described by Abrahamic religions)
@@michaellv426 be smarter. Your parallel universes are still a mathematical fiction (Penrose calculates the probability of our Universe in the model of a phase space - just a mathematical tool as if in the real space-time (of Einstein) but he does not see it like you). Check-in any biology resource how much time it takes to change a small sequence in DNA code or any (similar) biological "structure" (I do not know biology term; a good article on Ebola virus case). ps.Are u know and deny the principle of least action (in physics)? It works perfectly as according to Aristotle and Wisdom 11:20!
The singular pronoun of a dice is die
Did you just assume the die's pronoun. How dare you! TRIGGEREDDDD
SHOW MAKER the plural of dice is die
SHOW MAKER
"The singular pronoun of a dice is die"
Even if it hasn't been cast?
@Bradley Frank "People who title these videos are either are idiots or very good trolls."
I'm not convinced these two options are mutually exclusive.
And this is what I came here for
Its pretty selfish to think that the universe has adapted itself to us and not that life has adapted itself to the universe
My thoughts Exactly !!
Its pretty cynical to think that life is merely the biproduct of a Cosmic accident, instead of having meaning and Purpose.
@@tenshiginakuch2388 I wouldnt call it a "cosmical accident". I dont think life has any purpose but i think we should still enjoy it
exactly
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much.
Hell is real.
You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:).
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Ephesians 1:13
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
God Bless:)
So if I rolled a dice and got 6 for 70 times in a row, am I God?
Update: I am now God
Yes
@moneybuyspower But it is though.
xaM evol I no but a fuckard for sure
If you can live trillions of years, we could assume you're God
Yes
Hi Vsauce
Micheal here
Hey Micheal, Vsauce here
“Where are your fingers”?
Hey ecuasV leahciM here
*but what exactly is a finger*
....or are you?
There are 5.3 trillion (estimated) planets that can support life. There are 700 quintillion planets (estimated) in the known universe. This distribution is so low, that it leaves well over 99.9999% of all planets uninhabitable. Sorry but the probability argument doesn't hold water without making a lot of assumptions and purposefully misleading people.
You just assumed yourself 😂
I might be making an assumption. I guess you have to make a judgement as to who is making more assumptions: the ones claiming a god exists, made the universe, and speaks to people or the ones observing making predictions and altering future predictions based on past outcomes.
🎯 even on earth humans can’t exist on 90% it’s surface covered in bottomless oceans, frozen tundra and scorching desert.
These narcissistic creatards with their dominionist phailosophy are endangering the habitable traces we have left
@@natolio100 it comes down to an opinion, To me, it sounds fucking stupid to believe the universe came from nothing and the purpose we serve is literally nothing, Why would something be created for the purpose of nothing, Name one thing you can think of that serves no purpose that has been created, everything once has had a purpose. Is our only purpose to reproduce? If so, then we have no purpose, our purpose is an unlimited loop of reproducing. You have a nihilistic view, You like to choose what's easy to believe, It's easy to believe after you die their nothing. theirs no proof of something, Here is a thought experiment could you even believe the universe and everything inside of it had you not been a part of it? Of Course not, It's something we can not even fucking fathom. You want to believe theirs nothing that could exist cause it's easy to assume after you die there is nothing. Theirs a lot of assumptions on both sides, And you're character decides which side makes more sense. When I look around and see everything work so perfectly with each other and follow the rules of nature, Ie dominant hierarchy in the wild, How atoms are the building block for everything, How Atoms create molecules and these molecules create oxygen, plants release oxygen and humans breathe in, then releasing Carbon dioxide that humans breathe out that plants breath in, I believe theirs a creator, and to think there isn't means you're fucking stupid. Science Proves something. Look deeper than surface-level shit. Also, Science is just a bunch of assumptions that you're taking as fact, Their research could mean absolutely fucking nothing why? because unless they have undeniable proof it could always be wrong. Tell me how scientists can prove there are 700 quintillion planets, They Physically can't, They can only tell you by assuming.
We Don't even know if space is space is less than 1% of people have been there
*walks up to girl in a bar*: "Hey girl... you know the chances of the both of us being right here right now are 1 in a quadrillion? The universe has brought us together - what I'm saying is it's so mathematically improbable for us to be here right now, that we need to boink. The Math is all right there telling us we were destined to boink."
I don't think your example is comparable to the video. The video is saying the creation of the universe is so unlikely, that it must have been controlled or done by a higher being with a purpose (ultimately to worship God, the creator)
You are saying that two people meeting is so unlikely, so that there purpose should be to bang.
But you wouldn't bang your own relatives, or anyone of same gender, or anyone you may not like, or an animal either?
@@paradise4213 the so-called 'creation' of our universe was likely not the start of everything. It was simply the beginning of our particular universe as we know it (14 billion years ago). What was before that, we have no way of measuring, but it's possible that universes are very common within a much larger multi-verse. We used to think our Sun was special - no, it's one of billions of suns. We used to think our galaxy is special - no, it's one of billions of galaxies. Now you think our universe is special - this is an assumption. You also think 'god did it' - another assumption. And you assume that god was your god and not the 2,500 man-made gods. And you assume that god wrote a book... which leads to a cascade of other assumptions.
I encourage you to make more of an effort to engage in evidence-based thinking, because taking things on 'faith' gets you nowhere. I could believe in aliens, vampires, wacky conspiracy theories, or 2500 contradicting religions on 'faith'. Faith is believing without evidence - faith is irrational - faith is gullibility. Don't take anything on faith.
@@zenon3021 I like how you answer his assumptions with your own assumptions. Let him believe what he wants. No other life or form of life has been discovered outside earth. Our earth is very special, I don't understand how you don't see it. Perhaps you're being ignorant on purpose to make some silly point. One species doesn't evolve into another, there's zero transitional fossils, The odds of even a single sell “assembling itself” by chance are so low that they aren’t even worth talking about. Even the simplest cell you can conceive of would require no less than 100,000 DNA base pairs and a minimum of about 10,000 amino acids, to form the essential protein chain. Not to mention the other things that would also be necessary for the first cell. Wake up. 😁
@@wasconfuciusconfused3498 Evolution isn't an 'assumption' it's a scientific fact supported by150 YEARS of data in Biology (Genetics), Paleontology, Anthropology.
Google "evolution of dogs" and you will see all the cute dog breeds you see today all evolved from the gray wolf over thousands of years. If a wolf can turn into a chihuahua in thousands of years, imagine what it would look like after MILLIONS of years. Everything evolves, and the debate is closed on the issue. Please visit the NONfiction section of any library or bookstore in the world, or check out any encyclopedia or natural history museum and educate yourself because thus far you've been getting your 'info' from some pseudoscientific blog website.
I could provide some sources if you're interested.
@@zenon3021 Again, there's no single transitional fossils, if one species were to gradually change even given millions or billions of years there would be millions transitional fossils... But what do we see instead? Finding creatures that should have been instict or thought to be instict very much alive. Evolution carries some truth sure, as how mutations changes them, but never has one species created another. Maybe sub-species at best.... No fossils presented to say otherwise. You're reaching. It's a leap in faith don't you think?
Rolling 66666666 is just as likely as rolling 452221632 were just one of those possibiltys nothing special
Calvin Aje exactly what I was going to post
I call this the 50/50 probability. Either I win the lottery or I don't. If I jump off a building it'd 50/50 if I die. I apply it to almost everything.
Is that ur phone number?
@@rohandavies8889 Your theory is correct but remember that dependent variables of possibilities where there are two outcomes assuming the other cant happen at the same time is called possibility, not probability. Meaning the difference between saying. I have a 50% possibility that I will find a coin lying on the street because there are only two outcomes. However I could also say I have a 20% probability it will be a dime, assuming the possibilities are penny, nickel, dime, quarter, half dollar. You my friend are the master of possibilities 😎
you are wrong..take it this way..
66666666 mean the universe came to existence as it is now..perfect for life
53645647 mean a random chaotic universe..
for a univers to support life it has to be 666666 according to our current scientific knowledge..
so why the univers is 66666 and not 75553577 or 86766543 or 97365577..becouse it was created.