We Used the Moon as an Echo (And Made It Into a Free Plugin)

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  • @Hainbach
    @Hainbach  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Moon Echo (free download): www.audiothing.net/effects/moon-echo/
    Moon Bounced Samples (free download): www.patreon.com/posts/soundpack-moon-108117538
    Tutorial: th-cam.com/video/X2OAB4LaEZk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jaRhjQDqFmD-xgPl

    • @BataraKado
      @BataraKado 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you for the free plugin @hainbach you are my favourite musician youtuber... would love to collaborate with you on anything...
      keep up the interesting and cool work!!! love your music..

    • @johnp3298
      @johnp3298 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      callsign?

    • @JH-bf6qy
      @JH-bf6qy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The mental gymnastics associated with the fairy tale of this ridiculous senseless plugin would embarrass any monkey with enough sense to realize that these are realized imaginations, not at all facts.

  • @chascoppard
    @chascoppard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +586

    Now radio telescopes are going to go up in price on Reverb

    • @bielanski2493
      @bielanski2493 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      there's this fixer-upper in Puerto Rico you may not know about.... ;)

    • @leonard.c
      @leonard.c 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yes, they will skyrocket 😂

    • @recurvestickerdragon
      @recurvestickerdragon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@bielanski2493
      letting arecibo deteriorate was tragic and short-sighted of them

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@recurvestickerdragon It was due for replacement. Not building a new improved version in its place is the real crime.

  • @dasczwo
    @dasczwo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +357

    ufo lands on lawn, hatch opens..."hi, i´m hainbach itsw good to have you back."

    • @dasczwo
      @dasczwo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@RCAvhstape ..."and hands out b-ware soma terra´s and weird lab equipment to the awestruck humans"...

    • @colinbudd5840
      @colinbudd5840 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Could you repeat that?

    • @MOPtooth
      @MOPtooth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same thoughts haha. Sending complex shit out there for decades. Suddenly a "hi, im hainbach" will connect us to the aliens :D

  • @sasco7099
    @sasco7099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +327

    Thanks Hainbach, now moon prices on ebay are gonna skyrocket 🙄
    Knew I should've bought the one I was bidding on last month

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      LOL perfect comment

    • @stephpicher
      @stephpicher 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😅

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have I got a deal for you! I would like to sell you the Sydney Harbour bridge for the discounted price of $100,000!

    • @timmiller1
      @timmiller1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve got one I’ll sell you for a great deal.

    • @MintythecatIsABeast
      @MintythecatIsABeast 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To The Moon!!!!

  • @TheSlamLord
    @TheSlamLord 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    A message from all music producers around the world: Thank you for taking the time to show us this and make it into a free plugin for everyone to use.

  • @rays7805
    @rays7805 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    John Lennon wanted this. He wanted his voice to sound like it was coming from the moon on "I Am the Walrus". Someone needs to use this plugin on a cover of "I Am the Walrus".
    To the Moon, Alice!
    I'm thinking of other songs we need to do. We need a new version of Bruce Haack's "National Anthem to the Moon".

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Thanks for sharing that!

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      He also wanted one song to sound like an orange. I think this was probably the effect of LSD!

    • @crispysteve42
      @crispysteve42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Hainbach orange echo when?

    • @buchanfoulsham6314
      @buchanfoulsham6314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've listened to that song on lsd send dmt. The lyrics got more and more distorted as the song went on. Literally sounded like this moon echo by the end of it.

  • @dav1dbone
    @dav1dbone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

    In a distant galaxy in a trillion years some an alien will tune a radio in and hear people shouting "pipe dreams"

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      And the alien will think- no intelligent life on Earth! 😅

    • @nidefawl2552
      @nidefawl2552 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Signal doesn't even make it to Mars. If somebody can hear us he is here already.

  • @AdrianKwiatkowski
    @AdrianKwiatkowski หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so amazing, not only the plugin itself but this whole mini-documentary. Thanks for making it and sharing for free, that's really generous!

  • @kforkowskii
    @kforkowskii 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    the fact that this is free is incredible, thank you so much

  • @theothertonydutch
    @theothertonydutch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    What is the biggest instrument you've ever played?
    Hainbach: The moon.

  • @mmmdananananone
    @mmmdananananone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Best surprise ever! I sent Hainbach a sample a few months ago for a mysterious undisclosed project and then forgot about it. I obviously had no idea the sound would be transmitted to the moon and back. Just brilliant. Thank you so much, Stefan!

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This is why we love you dude. What a great video.

  • @HANGINGOUTWITHAUDIOPHILES
    @HANGINGOUTWITHAUDIOPHILES 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Whoa. This is like a mini documentary with so many wild insights and sonic delights. Bravo. This is truly epic and we really feel the shear amount of effort and time put into this video, let alone the development of the plug-in and then to give it away. So gracious. Thankfully you guys are lunatics.

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That last line was perfect 😂

  • @theoriginalscola
    @theoriginalscola 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    As an Audio Engineer and a Amateur Radio operator, I think this is one of the absolute coolest things you've done! Can't wait to try the plugin!! 73 de Mark, VA3HES

  • @Projacked1
    @Projacked1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    '400.000 kilometers...'
    'Yeah that's good for delay...'

  • @davidhuggins16
    @davidhuggins16 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    This sounds incredible. I found the distorted vocal echoes you captured reminiscent of some of Ben Burtt’s voice treatments in the original Star Wars film (“We’re passing through the magnetic field…”).
    I think, like Walter Murch did with THX1138, he sent the dry voices out from a shortwave radio transmitter and re-recorded the results on a detuned receiver, giving a uniquely warped, ring mod type effect…

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Set your deflectors double front!"

  • @BorisKraft
    @BorisKraft 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The coolest Hainbach project to date! And right on the 55th anniversary of the first moon landing, which from my perspective marks the pinnacle of human ambition and achievement. Congratulations again - and thanks for making the plugin available for those who don’t have a radio dish at hand ;-)

  • @BeardyMacBeardFace
    @BeardyMacBeardFace 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good old EME. The thing I love about EME is that it demonstrates the distance between the Earth and the Moon and also the speed of light in a vacuum, in more ways than one.
    Antenna designs are tuned based on the speed of light in a vacuum and the velocity factor of the metals used to make the antenna. If science were wrong about the speed of light and the velocity factor of different metals, these antennas would not work well enough.
    Since the efficacy of these antennas prove that we are correct about these things, we can now use those same antennas to measure the round trip time for an echo off of the Moon. Since we know the speed of light in a vacuum and the round trip time, we can estimate the distance between the Moon and the Earth.
    Some people believe the Moon is actually much closer to the Earth than it actually is, those people also believe lots of other strange things. Those people are wrong. There is a big experiment coming up soon for them!

  • @AmbientRackAlister
    @AmbientRackAlister 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    your tireless ability to create new things is impressive... an example and inspiration for everyone.

  • @bazedjunkiii_tv
    @bazedjunkiii_tv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    the entire machinery starting up and starting to move sounds like a mech symphony in itself.

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    What a cool and generous project! I will really enjoy playing with the moon!

  • @GavinskisTutorials
    @GavinskisTutorials 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Really fun, cool plugin, thnx Hainbach and Carlo!

  • @ZebraandDonkey
    @ZebraandDonkey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow and the plug in is great. Already using it on a track I am working on now. Very cool and thanks. Appreciate your sharing this and n’ice to see someone else who is inspired by Pauline Oliveros

  • @kwamalascience
    @kwamalascience 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a former physics student and music producer I truly appreciate the work you guys put in and all the science that's behind it.

  • @bolttracks
    @bolttracks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is literally such a dream for me! Been fascinated with radio telescopes since I was a kid 😍

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My fine fellow, thank you for the prime machinery footage. Gear boxes and oil splash are my jam!

  • @Nethanieal
    @Nethanieal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The concept of this idea is beautiful. Using the moon as a echo, best plugin idea ever. Rock on Hainbach !

  • @LAZ-org
    @LAZ-org 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In Probe Droid: "Scan of the system... the scanner on the . The base to the south. Their defenses are very impressive. I am to commence, sir.?”

  • @TyrasPiano
    @TyrasPiano 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This makes my astronomer and musician heart so so happy! Why am I almost crying over a plugin ♥

  • @_stition9777
    @_stition9777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is one of the best youtube videos I have ever seen. Thank you so much for this

  • @Projacked1
    @Projacked1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Brother, that is SO cool ....The Earth needed this haha

  • @dr.rabbitfoot7421
    @dr.rabbitfoot7421 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I started on my own iOS journey I found your channel almost straight away, enjoying the absolute experimentation of what you do, this one though, this brings me so much joy, and for you and @audiothing to do this for free!? Please keep doing what you folks do

  • @Mr_Frequency
    @Mr_Frequency 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for making this plugin. I've been fantasizing about doing this for music since I was in highschool, when I went on a ham radio internet research binge.

  • @_rlb
    @_rlb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is so cool! Dwingeloo is a great place, the telescope is worth visiting. I'll be there again tomorrow.

  • @zpurpz
    @zpurpz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sweet! Thank you very much 🚀🌒

  • @ImpliedMusic
    @ImpliedMusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I fully approve of this. delightful. you've managed to of my favorite topics. Pauline Oliveros' deep listening as well. thanks for the FREE plug-in. amazing.

  • @DonChups
    @DonChups 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't express how beautiful this whole piece is. I love all the explanation from those adorable space nerds and the sounds this project got. Thanks a lot for your work, this has been a lot of work, for sure.

  • @Lasse_Viklund
    @Lasse_Viklund 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is nerdy overload deluxe! Like!

  • @alairlibreinsfreie5785
    @alairlibreinsfreie5785 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i just did my first trys playing around with the moon. the plug in will definetly get good use in a film project i m working on. i put it on a track of an old harmonium and it was crazy, already the default setting was magic. no need to touch anything. on piano and percussion tracks it worked also very good. and it just invites to play around with it. phantastic idea. vielen dank!!

  • @burnerfriends
    @burnerfriends 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's great to see this kind of thing being the inspiration for plugs!

  • @SUNKINGME
    @SUNKINGME 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just downloaded. Once again you have created something that we didn't know we needed. Thank you for this and thank you for making it free!

  • @bielanski2493
    @bielanski2493 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hainbach as a radio nerd just gives me the best grin
    73, Hainbach. 73.

  • @JKVisFX
    @JKVisFX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This really speaks to the true nerd in me. Too cool for words.

  • @oswaldalien
    @oswaldalien 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Out of this world! Quite literally. Thank you for this thought provoking and inspiring app.

  • @FondueBrothers
    @FondueBrothers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a fantastic delay effect. Well done Hainbach and everyone involved in developing this plugin.

  • @scarlettleaves9042
    @scarlettleaves9042 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Hainbach for the rays of wonder and joy you shine into my life with your videos. ❤

  • @Vulpestruments
    @Vulpestruments 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad I was able to help a tiny bit in this process! Incredible work as usual.

  • @dessiplaer
    @dessiplaer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just downloaded Moon Delay, and I think it is great. I can see how great this effect will be for adding lots of character to tracks. Great work on this plugin.

  • @diegomerletto
    @diegomerletto 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This plug in is just what I was searching for! Real magic! Thanks a lot for sharing your passion and inspiration!

  • @donovaneyre
    @donovaneyre 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is one of the coolest things I've ever seen/heard, incredible project!

  • @Mike-v9k5t
    @Mike-v9k5t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Hainbach. Another totall creative audio astrophysics project. Love your originality ... inspiring indeed. Take care. Mike in Canada

  • @moltenguava9418
    @moltenguava9418 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Analogue horror creators are gonna have a hay day with this plugin!

    • @DasGanon
      @DasGanon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh man I want to see Mick Gordon use the plug-in for Routine now.

  • @Freyaod
    @Freyaod 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I did something similar to this in my eurorack where i created a sonar ping by sending a gate into my rainmaker, both delay and comb engaged, 100% delay signal. The rainmaker was sent to VCAs (as the object being hit by the sonar) and the sound sources patched into the vca would be the returning signal. Not entirely accurate to sonar at all but a very interesting experiment

  • @va941
    @va941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is going to be making some dark dub sounds for me ❤

  • @andycampbell8476
    @andycampbell8476 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The radio spectrum is a goldmine for sounds that are good for music production. Data streams, over-the-horizon radar, and even time signals can become beats very, very easily.

  • @Jefflantern483
    @Jefflantern483 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The moon echoes sounded pretty gnarly & great effects to use in music!🙂🙂

  • @wolfunplugged
    @wolfunplugged 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    was für ein fantastisches abenteuer...herzlichen dank, dass du uns mitgenommen hast!

  • @blackmoofou6385
    @blackmoofou6385 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really do appreciate all your plug ins work on older iPads. This iPod 4 or 6 whatever it is cost 20 pounds and I get to use all your apps which makes it an absolute bargain. Just been playing with the moon echo using the internal mic and it’s insane and tons of fun. I already know I’ll find a ton of uses for it. Thanks @hainbach for your hard work and generosity it’s truly appreciated! ❤️

  • @elrevientaesquinas
    @elrevientaesquinas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great idea to put on work! Thanks Hainbach!

  • @GamerSirus
    @GamerSirus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My god, this is cool. One-thousand thanks for the free plugin. Love this.

  • @safko_dsp
    @safko_dsp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Genius idea and execution. Love it! Your Audio Thing collabs always hit

  • @macmichi77
    @macmichi77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mein lieber Herr Gesangsverein, nicht nur, dass mir Video und Plugin sehr viel Spaß beschert haben und (sowas von) werden... Die Kommentare sind auch der Hammer! It's good to have YOU überhaupt, doing all that stuff ! ;)

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ach danke dir!

  • @leandromiquet4820
    @leandromiquet4820 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you think you can't be surprised any more Hainbach appears to prove you wrong. Thanks! And massive thanks for the plugin 💛

  • @zackersquackers
    @zackersquackers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a fun and creative way to modify sound--gonna have fun with that one!

  • @kenschestok9515
    @kenschestok9515 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A day late watching this but as I am sitting in my hotel room in Lauterbrunnen Switzerland watching this video I noticed the moon rising over the mountains! Can’t wait to download it once I get back to the states

  • @BatmanWangChung
    @BatmanWangChung 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Suh dude! I am properly flabbergasted! Amazing stuff as always!

  • @leparisien2010
    @leparisien2010 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh god ! This idea is just great ; It will fit to my music so well. Thousands and thousands thanks for your gift, your creativity.
    Hugh.

  • @FFGG22E
    @FFGG22E 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best thing I've seen on youtube in a long long time

  • @SamTahbou
    @SamTahbou 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that you were featured by Tom Scott on his newsletter. Well deserved.

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very happy about that! Legend

  • @ericcollins1824
    @ericcollins1824 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh wow ,
    This is super cool hainbach !
    I am a no plug ins guy but this is fascinating nonetheless .
    My father in law is a super advanced ham radio operator here in the u.s. . Seriously , his humongous stash of gear and knowledge of electronics puts us all to shame 😏and has long crossed the border of ridiculous .He’s a retired dr of physics and astronomer .
    He’s well known for his prowess with ‘moon-bounce ‘ broadcasting in ham radio circles .
    They shoot a signal to the moon synched to mapping software of the moons surface which then lets them bounce the signal to the opposite side of the earth that they normally couldn’t reach . It’s pretty mind blowing .
    I am a steady viewer of yr work and am appreciative of yr relentless search for new frontiers and yr excellent taste .
    Cheers sir , happy bouncing !

  • @buckminsterowski
    @buckminsterowski 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that outro was insanely cool. thanks for the plugin!

  • @Kharrari
    @Kharrari 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    amazing

  • @honderdzeventien
    @honderdzeventien 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're such a cool dude, @Hainbach Thanx for fulfilling another person's dreams. And have us all into the loop

  • @wignallyt
    @wignallyt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool plug in - thank you Hainbach and Audio Thing. These Audio Thing FX plug ins are pretty amazing.

  • @AlastairClarkUK
    @AlastairClarkUK 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Tom Scott newsletter sent me here.

  • @dashlaru2
    @dashlaru2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heinbach, you mad scientist, what an awesome experience and instrument!

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Holy shoot, this is next level nerd-dom, Hainbach this is genius!

  • @Strannix1979
    @Strannix1979 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ha ha, the plugin is soooo coool! I love it. Thank you for this amazing idea.

  • @J-DUB-F1
    @J-DUB-F1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because OF COURSE you made an echo plugin based on actual space echos!! 😏👍
    Well done!............endless possibilities! ☺🙏

  • @diay6556
    @diay6556 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awww is so nerdy and beautifull plugin and free!!! OMG Hainbach thank you man!

  • @JonValtandtheEvilRobots
    @JonValtandtheEvilRobots 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot in common with shortwave radio, which is a big influence in a lot of my stuff!

  • @TUNNELOFREVERB
    @TUNNELOFREVERB 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so awesome, what a great idea. I love the sounds & textures

  • @AG-mz7vm
    @AG-mz7vm 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great idea, thanks for the plugin!

  • @red_nagual
    @red_nagual 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you, Hainbach. The plugin is really fun to explore. 👍

  • @touchthatdial
    @touchthatdial 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic. Peak nerd in the absolute best sense. Love it.

  • @benbraidfoot6157
    @benbraidfoot6157 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Working on a project right now building some effected loops and this will just be one more beautiful texture for me to add!!! Thank you Hainbach!!!

  • @ellenniles660
    @ellenniles660 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Here from Tom Scott's newsletter

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh really! I had no idea

  • @temporoboto
    @temporoboto 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fascinating!

  • @PaulClift1978
    @PaulClift1978 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So cool! And really brilliant that they were willing to let you fool around with it..

  • @aryanswiichannel4667
    @aryanswiichannel4667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for making this awesome video!

  • @MesutOtayOffiicial
    @MesutOtayOffiicial 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @tootsscaf
    @tootsscaf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a surprise to see my two hobbies getting combined in a youtuber i'm following since many years. The people of camras are so nice to have this fantastic antenna available for crazy experiments! Jan pa3fxb is a great guy! If i knew i was listening along on the day oc recording to capture the sounds with my own dish antenna. Great video Hainbach! Good luck with the moon echo vst!!! 73 dirk on5gs

  • @eyesintheskies
    @eyesintheskies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😃 Quite possibly the best plug in plug of all time & it’s free too 😮🙏🙏🙏

  • @Braysonvassar
    @Braysonvassar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is incredible, I love all of it

  • @T-Error
    @T-Error 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks !🌜

  • @peonerovv1770
    @peonerovv1770 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I HAD THE SAME IDEA LIKE A MONTH AGO. HAINBACH YOURE THE BEST

  • @DivKid
    @DivKid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    absolutely fantastic!

  • @nilspipenbrinck8040
    @nilspipenbrinck8040 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Silent Hill vibes are strong with your recordings.

  • @midwinter78
    @midwinter78 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's a set of DIY synth plans under the name of Music From Outer Space. Now _this_ is the real deal!

  • @wingstrongwingstrong
    @wingstrongwingstrong 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the plugin, for a nice sound I paralleled two, one with doppler the other without. I'm listening to 60s music through it now, it's really beautiful, these days the sound is too crystal clear if you listen to regular radio
    Your plugin makes it sound (as we call it in Russia) "lampy" (reference to radio tubes in amplifiers).
    Very nice background noise