I think that maybe they stuck with the black/white/gray theme because it's very camofluage-ish with the tahr's habitat: the snow, the rocks, mountains, etc. I really like them, they were unexpected and that is good. Plus, it shows EW is branching out some and listening to people that play. Tahr has been highly requested and they added them. We wanted non-base game GOs for more variety, and they did that. Plus they gave us an awesome new map and tigers with around 9 rare fur types. And, they changed it up and made it more challenging with no drink zones. So that's a new aspect to handle. Thing is, you can't make every single person happy every time. Some ppl will like some GOs more than others. I, personally would've been a bit disappointed with a wild boar GO, just cuz I don't really love 'em, but many people really want them. And I'd have been cool with that, because there WILL be quite a few more GOs in the games future, they've said so much. And at the end of the day, if you don't like them, you don't have to hunt them, there are many other current GOs to chase. I think, like them or not, them making a GO tahr shows a step in the right direction towards futures GOs like lions, mule deer, etc.
You raise some very important points and I agree with you on many of them. Just because I was unaware at how popular the idea of a tahr was doesn't mean that it's a bad choice. I just wasn't what I was expecting. However, there are many other things to be grateful for because you're right - they are listening to the community on many of the top issues that face the game at the present time. For example, making it so you can't water needs on grind this great one is definitely going to encourage the community to return to the original intention of the game... that is until the Grinders figure out how to grind it. 😂
I agree with you - I think that was the original intention of the Great One; not everyone would or should have one. *I also think it was not intended for the community to be able to harvest 50 to 60 of them either.* I think what Jaxy said in the live stream holds true: despite the original intention of the experience they were trying to provide, players have found a way to change it and evolved it. In order to keep up with that, I think they need to adapt and change some aspects of the game so it feels fair and balanced.
It definitely feels like this is one of the more mixed reception situations from the community. I think a lot of people are grateful for the graphic improvements in the game, but some of the hunting we're going to experience is very different from what they're used to.
I am really looking forward to the new map and G1, I believe with all the color variations and not being able to hunt the G1 tahr in drink zones along with the limited number of tigers and snow leopards this map will keep me and most of the community coming back more and more to try to get everything. As for the color variations on the G1 tahr I think they nailed it. Every variation seemed very realistic and very beautiful at the same time. I think seeing an orange or golden tahr on a snowy white mountain side would just kill the immersion for me because of the limited knowledge I have of tahr, I know that is not realistic at all. EW has disappointed me time and again with so many bugs and so many unrealistic animal models and unwanted maps but I believe this dlc will finally redeem EW
I can understand your frustrations. Several of the maps we're not for everyone. There was a fairly large outcry out against New England mountains, but it has certainly grown on me for sure. I hope you get the tahr that you want! It's definitely going to be a challenge because of the way they are programmed, but I know you can do it. Share it with us when you're able to find it! Happy Hunting!
I thought the Tahr great one was a ruse at the start as they first released the pick on steam which is not normal & that the native people called the Tahr the great one. I was hoping for the Waterbuffalo they look so awesome at lvl 7 never alone a great one.
I thought they were pretty good myself but I see what you’re saying with the black and white theme. I think they were just trying to keep them somewhat realistic and I think they did that relatively well! I’m really looking forward to tahr hunting myself; I think them not being in drinking zones and in up the mountains is a welcome change and challenge, so yeah I’m definitely looking forward to pretty much everything coming with this map!
You raise some very good points about camouflage that didn't immediately cross my mind. I know Jaxy talked about camouflage at length in the live stream, but it didn't connect until I read your comment. It does make a lot of sense that they would stick to the black and white for that purpose. I just like colorful things. 😁
@@FalxHunter yeah for sure! I was thinking afterwards they could’ve maybe gone with at least one more color; maybe like the chocolate fallow or something like that.. in any case looking forward to it. Tbh my big thing atm with GOs is I hope they update some of the older models; maybe the whitetail but most definitely the red deer. Hopefully some day
I really hope that we will meet maneater tiger during the questline, because honestly it would be such a bummer to not feature tigers heavily in the questline. They put so much effort into making the tiger different from other predator species we have right now in cotw. Last mission that involved hunting some special animal was the last moose in Te Awaroa, which is crazy considering hunting rare animals is main thing you do in this game. We could take on some unique animals located in Sundapatar, maybe a old water bufalo with broken horn, unusually large barasingha buck or perhaps really cunning fox that has been stealing chickens from locals. I just want missions about hunting in my hunting game man.
These are all some really cool really immersive ideas and I'm definitely excited to see what the developers have had in mind as far as the story line is concerned. I feel like the tiger theory is probably going to be somewhat true just because of some of the things they've hinted at in the live streams but we'll see!
It's EW's standard practice to ask the CCs to not show the missions during early access. They've been doing this at least since after Yukon Valley. At that time, a lot of CCs did show the missions, and there were naturally a lot of complaints about spoiling the game for everyone else.
I was unaware of this! That makes sense and I can completely see why expensive worlds has taken that stance. It makes me wonder though because even if they can't play the mission systems pretty much everything else gets discovered by the Affiliated creators because they have so much time to explore the map. I kind of feel like they need to limit Early Access to just a 24-hour window so there's still a lot of left undiscovered.
I would have preferred the new g1 to be something like a mule deer or a Rocky elk but to be honest the g1 tahr looks pretty good the only thing I’m disappointed about is that they don’t have drink zones
I agree. By the end of the live stream I was sold on how amazing these animals are. I kind of like the fact that we will not have water needs zones for them even if it's not terribly accurate to the animals biology. However I feel that Grinders are going to figure out how to grind them using feed zones because I imagine most of those will be out in the open.
I sincerely hope they do NOT put the great one tahr in the story missions, because there would be no faster way to make it boring and worthless. If a mission gave me a great one for free I would ruin it on purpose, and i wouldn’t even save the harvest let alone put it in my lodge. in my eyes that would be barely better than cheating in a great one. mission animals are at their best when they’re unique and easily identifiable, that way they make for a cool thing to put in your lodge without pretending to be something that they aren’t. great ones don’t need to be balanced so casual players can get them. they’re meant to be rare. don’t want them handed out like a participation award so people don’t feel left out
I understand how you may feel this way. I also feel that players shouldn't be able to have 50 or 60 of each of them if they want to just by grinding. If that's going to be allowable, then there needs to be some sort of counterbalance, in my opinion. I think if done correctly, a mission system great one could still be a challenging and viable experience. Yes, it would have to be much much harder than a standard mission system animal like the super rare diamond on medved. Some sort of mechanic would have to be in place to make the hunt so challenging that it's incredibly difficult to complete. One of the ways to accomplish this would be to allow it to roam the entire map instead of just spawning and staying in one place. Then, players would have to track it for a long time to try and find it. Something of that nature, perhaps. I do, however, appreciate your desire to protect the rarity and the specialness of great ones.
@@FalxHunter I see where you’re coming from, but honestly I don’t think a handful of players having dozens of great ones is a problem. those are the same kind of people who have eight or ten thousand hours in the game, so as far as i’m concerned they earned those great ones. grinding is just a way to play the game, it’s not better or worse than any other playstyle, and if someone wants to devote that much time to getting trophies, i think they deserve to get them. as for the mission great one, i’m pretty certain it’s not gonna happen. jaxy said that initial spawn great ones have been removed, so I can’t imagine them going against that by spawning one in for you after you complete a few missions
I'm in a lot of agreement with you here. As excited as I am with Sundarpatan, there are a few things about it that I think are missteps. I agree that while the tahr GO is cool I feel the boar might have been even cooler and would have been better in the detail that its not exclusive to the new map. And there are so many returning animals that could have been on this map that were left out for some reason. And I don't know if its been said on a stream or post that I missed but I still don't understand why this map was delayed by 6 months.
Honestly, I think it's because the mechanics with the tiger is such a new concept that they need time to work it into the game properly. I also think they've done a lot of Graphics upgrades that were much needed with the environment. I'm wondering if they're going to go back and later update some of the older maps to reflect the updates and changes.
You totally hit the nail on the head. We need this G1 to be a mission-based G1. It was very discouraging to me when Jaxy said on the stream that anyone can get a great one. I hope he means that they are making the G1's more attainable because now it's impossible to as a casual player.
@@jovanventer1308 exactly. EW even makes a point of saying most hunters will never see a great one. that's what makes them so special when u do get one. so tired of all these people complaining about great ones. just enjoy playing the game...that's the whole point of the game...to enjoy hunting. the game is not a great one game, it's a hunting game. who cares if u don't have a great one !!! when's the last time u heard someone bragging that they have the super rare bear from medved???...NEVER!! ...lol. so if u can just get a tahr great one by doing the missions.....no one will care about that either !! but i do like the idea that if the mission does spawn a great one tahr, that it be spawned anywhere on the map and now u have to go find it. not like the medved mission where it just leads u to it and u just have to shoot it.
Jova - I responded to a comment that you left directly on the video, but I want to reiterate it here. Yes, I believe the original intention was that not everyone would have a great one, and that way, they would be extra special. However, as Jaxy said in the live stream, the community has forced the game to evolve. *I don't think it was intended that players would be able to harvest upwards of 50, 60, or even 100+ of these animals by grinding either, but here we are.* I think we need to adapt to the evolving nature of the gameplay and make it more accessible for those who can only casually play.
Togglez - I appreciate your kind words! I feel the same way you do in many situations and I really hope they are looking for ways to balance it more for casual players.
@@FalxHunter i agree to a point. but the people who have 50-60-100 great ones are not the norm. these people grind 24/7. of course if u do something more, you'll have more results. i compared the percentages of these players to my percentages and they are pretty much the same. they have 10x more great ones than me but they also killed 10x more animals and they have exactly 10x more diamonds than me. so they aren't really better at the game, they just play more than i do. and like i said, does anyone really care about the super rare they can get from the medved mission? of course they don't. so it will be a fine line between that and making mission great ones that no one cares about. it's actually the great ones that brought me back to the game. i quit for a year before anyone great ones existed because the game was boring. animals were non existent on my maps also. so people who say the great ones ruined the game ..i disagree....i think they made the game better and unique. it's just that people want instant gratification, they want a great one because they feel they deserve a great one. imo, no one "deserves" anything....just enjoy the hunt!
I need to play the missions more. Apparently, there are Easter eggs and little pieces of equipment that I could be using right now that I don't because I haven't done many of them yet. I've done quite a few on Cuatro...
@@FalxHunter i think its best way to get a "starter" feel for maps. Cuatro is definitely 1 of the best maps as far as story and side missions. My ranking is probably Cuatro, Hirsch, Medved, Layton, Parque, New England, Vurhonga, Yukon, EC as great or really good then Revontuli, Te Awaroa as fine then Rancho and SRP are last far as story and side missions because they lack any side missions. And yes their is usually rewards only available through missions also that enjoy earning as well
I like Hirsch alot because it has like 3-4 story mission arcs and a ton of side missions spun off the 3 arcs with a really sweet trophy fallow only available through missions. I highly recommend Hirsch if u looking to get into doing missions.
Eh they all look pretty great for their mountainous theme and I like that they’ve upped the difficulty with no drink zones. Kinda feel like great ones aren’t meant to be a casual thing in the slightest as even Jaxy has described them as “End Game Content” so them making it harder is kinda enjoyable
I absolutely agree that they should be end game content. And while the devs intended for Great Ones to be that way, grinders are accomplishing what should be the impossible: they're getting upwards of 50 and 60 of these animals because of how they're playing. I think we need to look beyond its original intention, like Jaxy said, and realize that the game has evolved in a way. Now, it seems a little out of balance for an animal to be so rare to be so accessible by grinding.
@@FalxHunter That’s super true, that’s why I kind of like the lack of drink zones for them as it forces grinders into the fields/forests at least makes the hunt more challenging lol
Personaly I would prefer europian bison grate one, however I might be the only one who would like this grate one And I also thought that wild boar would be next grate one
It’s just so odd they went with tahr out of all the possibilities. If EW felt they *needed* a GO tahr to help map sales, then they’re undervaluing tigers and snow leopards, lol. It also doesn’t make sense that they won’t backfill Te Awaroa with tahr until a later date-again, people are still going to buy the new map either way!
People will definitely be buying the map anyway! I thought the same about the tigers until Jaxy explained the conservation messaging around them. I don't think they want to showcase people blasting away at thousands of tigers when in the tigers' actual history, this is what eventually led to their near extinction. I agree that they should absolutely backfill these animals on Te Awaroa sometime soon.
it’s worth noting that jaxy has said multiple times that the tahr was one of the most highly requested species since te awaroa, im not surprised they would make a great one for a species the community was clamoring for so much
@@seguaye Sure, but they’re not backfilling Te Awaroa presumably to not take away from Sundarpatan sales, but that map already has enough to attract buyers. The majority of GO releases had animals that were available on many other maps, so it would’ve made sense for tahr to be backfilled, *especially* after a year of development
@@imper_gaming they’re planning on backfilling in the future, i assume it’s a time/budget constraint more than anything. putting a new animal on a map is a lot of development and sundarpatan already took a year to make
I mean they can fix that by announcing a new great one in 3 months 😂. All jokes aside, the map looks great and I'm happy with all of the new species added to the game. The Great One could of been better.
That raises an interesting question. I wonder how the community would react if one of the updates was just the release of a great one and not accompanied by anything super special... 🤔
I held out hope for a really long time! The more I think about it the more the tahr grows on me and I know that if nothing else the rest of the experience that comes with the map is going to make up for any disappointments I may be feeling at the moment. Can't wait to hear your stories that come out of Sundarpatan!
I like the anti drink zone grind direction. There are 14 other maps to continue that but a goat is a goat and excitement factor 4 out of 10 but I liked the black and white ones I am not a mission fan and free hunt my fave but i think next map they should do 25 missions leading to final mission spawns a great one and everyone can get one Mission difficulty appear on trophy and up to us to choose difficulty path
I love this idea! I think having mission system great ones built in would provide some much-needed balance to the game, as I said in the video. I also don't play the mission systems often, but I'm genuinely curious to see what will result from this based on the hints and the non-information we received. I definitely prefer a casual hunting experience myself.
@@FalxHunter Difficulty: Rookie 15 missions with 10 sub missions each. The last sub mission on 15th mission get 10 vital shots in a row on every species on the map if on last species on 10th shot and you mess up shot the sub mission ruined and you start sub mission again from start Ron Spomer - (Medium hard) The hunter we would like to be in real life 25 missions 15 sub missions and last sub mission 25 perfect vital hits in a row on every species on map in a row Jeremiah Johnson - (full metal jacket hard ) 50 missions 25 sub missions last sub mission 50 perfect vitals on every species in a row
Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to comment, and I would be curious to hear further your thoughts on how the game is not catering to grinders. Sometimes, it feels that way when there's a part of the community that feels challenged by grinding being so prolific. Can you point to specific examples?
I really wish one day when you reach level 60 it would automatically populate one great one on any of the maps where they exist. You don't know which great one it is. It could be a bear, it could be a deer...it could be a fallow or whatever. But just one of the existing great ones just automatically populates and you just have a chance to run into it. I would love that so so much.
I thought the same way at first actually, that the tiger might have been a better choice. However, once they explain their stance on the conservation messaging around the Bengal tiger and how it was hunted to near extinction, I can understand why they refrained. I'm sure they wouldn't want to be showing players massacring massive amounts of tigers trying to get this Great One because that's exactly what caused them to nearly go extinct in the first place.
I completely agree with you I was pretty disappointed but don’t get me wrong. It’s still a new map and a new great one and you can’t really expect much more because they’re still providing us with more stuff and at least we’re not getting nothing and we’re getting a new great one, but I am still pretty disappointed, they do need more colors not just white and black
Yeah we can still appreciate the obvious attention to detail and dedicated work of the team for sure. I think in time the experience will grow on us who may feel a little bit of a letdown. I for one am looking forward to the new hunting mechanics around the snow leopard and the Bengal tiger!!!
First praise to EW for their hard to give us the best hunting game. As far as I can tell I am the only person in the community who does not care for The Great Ones. The Whitetail GO racks look like a deer with a bad hair day. I am happy for everyone who enjoys their Spider rack moose or Irish Elk Fallow. People on Facebook called me crazy but that is OK.
There was a time in my history where great ones didn't stir me as much as they do now. I kind of had the same thought where it would be nice to have but it wasn't all that big of a deal. I blame myself for falling into the grinding culture when I became a content creator and gravitating toward the entertainment value that the great one provides. I'm sure you're not alone though with people who could take or leave the great one and it really doesn't influence their game play. I do appreciate this fairly unique perspective though and the way you shared the message in a very understandable way. Thank you for taking a moment to comment!
i am not dissapointed. i just have 2 GO in my lodge.. haha.. so i have grind 2000++ maybe 3000 for whitetail GO, but no luck. so GO really too much for me.. maybe.
Make an absolutely be hard to obtain! I was probably close to 8000 and 9,000 kills for my great one moose. I think my sheer stubbornness is what pulled me through. Can't wait to hear about your experiences on the new map!
I was a little surprised that ivex wasn't in the picture but I think the blue sheep will be a good animal to balance that need. It's possible they may have some stuff later you're right.
I know how you feel! Luckily it sounds like there's a huge portion of the map that you can hunt and avoid the Tigers all together. Just keep away from the western side of the map and I think you'll be fine.
I like call of the wild I recently bought that other hunting game called Way of the Hunter I haven’t really touched call of the wild since. Call of the wild is a great game but I think the better graphics and realism of Way of the Hunter I am liking a bit more.
I probably won't try another GO grind. They have not been rewarding for me. Spend half a million on tents and tripods for a pile of dupilcate diamonds. It's the rifle I am disappointed about because they brought a map with 3 class 9's and then the heaviest, scopeless, single shot deer rifle. The specs of the cartridge are better than the 45-70 or 7mm but they won't allow me to use it on the new Yaks, Tiger or my current favorite class 9, the Water Buffalo. I guess I'll take it to Emerald Coast for salties. Crocs treat me better than GO's. In just a couple months I have almost completed an all variations rare/VR/diamond croc/gator lodge with 25 diamonds and rares never leaving my own single player PS4 map. Only missing the leucistic croc and mela gator now.
I agree with you on the rifle! With the amount of power it seemed to have I would have thought it was perfect for class 9s but I think maybe they want us to use the Arzyna since it was recently released.
I mad that they don’t have a drink time, they drink irl, this decision for them to not have a drink time I think was to make this great one more difficult not to make it more realistic
I can absolutely see your point on this. While I'm very excited that there will be no chance at water need zone grinding, it doesn't make sense biologically for the animal not to have a drink time. Maybe a better approach would have been to make their drink times completely random instead of a set time during the day. I don't know if or how they can program that. 🤔
i really see no reason to complain. a great one tahr is better than nothing, we haven't lost anything. would someone rather have no great one in this update? and i mean we have 5 other great one species already, there's zero loss. and as for the colours; tahr aren't the most flamboyant animals, i see no reason to expect polka dots or flurescent colours. the great ones being fantasy trophies are ridiculous enough as they are, are they not?
You do have a point with a fantastical nature of gray ones. I would like to think they are inspired by some real-world animals, but I've asked that of Jaxy in the live stream sometimes, and the answer is usually that they take a fantastic license with some of them. I enjoyed your comment because it challenged me to think about how we interpret the nature of complaints. I looked up the etymology of the word and learned something about its origin. I think it's good material for a podcast, so I appreciate you being respectful about sharing your thoughts on this topic.
It’s good, idk why y’all are all mad wtf they are supposed to be difficult and this will make it more like hunting, it’s good trust and the furs are supposed to blend in, they worked hard on them
I absolutely did work hard on them. I think it's possible to be disappointed without being angry or mad necessarily. They absolutely should be difficult, and I think there are ways to accomplish this without relying solely on grinding.
I hate how this game is becoming less and less realistic. There's no moose in the real life like in this game, or tahr(Great ones). I will continue to play The Hunter Classic.
I recently started playing the hunter classic, and honestly, I absolutely love the game's mechanics over those of the hunter call of the wild. I love how the population gets reset regularly, so there's no chance of grinding, but there is a chance of something amazingly rare spawning in. I kind of wish they would create a system where players could opt into this choice if they played the call well so that the grinders can continue to grind and those of us who want to more authentic hunting experience can choose it if we want.
I hate the extra goofy fur colors. Like the ones that looks at least semi realistic, look great! But the black and white and skull ones… you might as well unicorns or rainbow color, it’s utter nonsense. Also the horn sets are completely wrong, way to upright and don’t swing back into the mane enough. But hey I’m not a game developer just a guy who looks at and guides tahr for a living…
It must be a different feel when you have that kind of Insider knowledge about an animal! I know that the game is taking a more fantastical approach to Great Ones, but I definitely prefer a more realistic approach as well. Thanks for sharing!
It can be very frustrating when you wait a long time, and the result of your patience is an outcome that you weren't expecting or desiring. I'm glad you felt compelled to say something and get it off your chest. Hopefully, the experience will grow on you, but I can understand why it wouldn't, and that is okay too. 😊
I think that maybe they stuck with the black/white/gray theme because it's very camofluage-ish with the tahr's habitat: the snow, the rocks, mountains, etc. I really like them, they were unexpected and that is good. Plus, it shows EW is branching out some and listening to people that play. Tahr has been highly requested and they added them. We wanted non-base game GOs for more variety, and they did that. Plus they gave us an awesome new map and tigers with around 9 rare fur types. And, they changed it up and made it more challenging with no drink zones. So that's a new aspect to handle.
Thing is, you can't make every single person happy every time. Some ppl will like some GOs more than others. I, personally would've been a bit disappointed with a wild boar GO, just cuz I don't really love 'em, but many people really want them. And I'd have been cool with that, because there WILL be quite a few more GOs in the games future, they've said so much. And at the end of the day, if you don't like them, you don't have to hunt them, there are many other current GOs to chase. I think, like them or not, them making a GO tahr shows a step in the right direction towards futures GOs like lions, mule deer, etc.
You raise some very important points and I agree with you on many of them. Just because I was unaware at how popular the idea of a tahr was doesn't mean that it's a bad choice. I just wasn't what I was expecting. However, there are many other things to be grateful for because you're right - they are listening to the community on many of the top issues that face the game at the present time. For example, making it so you can't water needs on grind this great one is definitely going to encourage the community to return to the original intention of the game... that is until the Grinders figure out how to grind it. 😂
I wish GO’s could be put to a vote amongst players.
I have said this enough, great ones aren't meant to be gotten by a lot of people
I agree with you - I think that was the original intention of the Great One; not everyone would or should have one. *I also think it was not intended for the community to be able to harvest 50 to 60 of them either.*
I think what Jaxy said in the live stream holds true: despite the original intention of the experience they were trying to provide, players have found a way to change it and evolved it. In order to keep up with that, I think they need to adapt and change some aspects of the game so it feels fair and balanced.
I feel that this is the most mixed feeling release ever, i personally love it all. but i see that others are disapointed
It definitely feels like this is one of the more mixed reception situations from the community. I think a lot of people are grateful for the graphic improvements in the game, but some of the hunting we're going to experience is very different from what they're used to.
I am really looking forward to the new map and G1, I believe with all the color variations and not being able to hunt the G1 tahr in drink zones along with the limited number of tigers and snow leopards this map will keep me and most of the community coming back more and more to try to get everything. As for the color variations on the G1 tahr I think they nailed it. Every variation seemed very realistic and very beautiful at the same time. I think seeing an orange or golden tahr on a snowy white mountain side would just kill the immersion for me because of the limited knowledge I have of tahr, I know that is not realistic at all. EW has disappointed me time and again with so many bugs and so many unrealistic animal models and unwanted maps but I believe this dlc will finally redeem EW
I can understand your frustrations. Several of the maps we're not for everyone. There was a fairly large outcry out against New England mountains, but it has certainly grown on me for sure. I hope you get the tahr that you want! It's definitely going to be a challenge because of the way they are programmed, but I know you can do it. Share it with us when you're able to find it! Happy Hunting!
I thought the Tahr great one was a ruse at the start as they first released the pick on steam which is not normal & that the native people called the Tahr the great one. I was hoping for the Waterbuffalo they look so awesome at lvl 7 never alone a great one.
I mean not going to lie the water buffalo would have been an amazing great one!
I thought they were pretty good myself but I see what you’re saying with the black and white theme. I think they were just trying to keep them somewhat realistic and I think they did that relatively well! I’m really looking forward to tahr hunting myself; I think them not being in drinking zones and in up the mountains is a welcome change and challenge, so yeah I’m definitely looking forward to pretty much everything coming with this map!
You raise some very good points about camouflage that didn't immediately cross my mind. I know Jaxy talked about camouflage at length in the live stream, but it didn't connect until I read your comment. It does make a lot of sense that they would stick to the black and white for that purpose. I just like colorful things. 😁
@@FalxHunter yeah for sure! I was thinking afterwards they could’ve maybe gone with at least one more color; maybe like the chocolate fallow or something like that.. in any case looking forward to it. Tbh my big thing atm with GOs is I hope they update some of the older models; maybe the whitetail but most definitely the red deer. Hopefully some day
I also think they made the one Tahr with the scars a storyline. I could also be wrong, I was wrong about the great one, lol
It's definitely going to be interesting next week when we can play through the mission and see if our theory holds true!
I really hope that we will meet maneater tiger during the questline, because honestly it would be such a bummer to not feature tigers heavily in the questline. They put so much effort into making the tiger different from other predator species we have right now in cotw. Last mission that involved hunting some special animal was the last moose in Te Awaroa, which is crazy considering hunting rare animals is main thing you do in this game. We could take on some unique animals located in Sundapatar, maybe a old water bufalo with broken horn, unusually large barasingha buck or perhaps really cunning fox that has been stealing chickens from locals. I just want missions about hunting in my hunting game man.
These are all some really cool really immersive ideas and I'm definitely excited to see what the developers have had in mind as far as the story line is concerned. I feel like the tiger theory is probably going to be somewhat true just because of some of the things they've hinted at in the live streams but we'll see!
It's EW's standard practice to ask the CCs to not show the missions during early access. They've been doing this at least since after Yukon Valley. At that time, a lot of CCs did show the missions, and there were naturally a lot of complaints about spoiling the game for everyone else.
I was unaware of this! That makes sense and I can completely see why expensive worlds has taken that stance. It makes me wonder though because even if they can't play the mission systems pretty much everything else gets discovered by the Affiliated creators because they have so much time to explore the map. I kind of feel like they need to limit Early Access to just a 24-hour window so there's still a lot of left undiscovered.
I would have preferred the new g1 to be something like a mule deer or a Rocky elk but to be honest the g1 tahr looks pretty good the only thing I’m disappointed about is that they don’t have drink zones
I agree. By the end of the live stream I was sold on how amazing these animals are. I kind of like the fact that we will not have water needs zones for them even if it's not terribly accurate to the animals biology. However I feel that Grinders are going to figure out how to grind them using feed zones because I imagine most of those will be out in the open.
I sincerely hope they do NOT put the great one tahr in the story missions, because there would be no faster way to make it boring and worthless. If a mission gave me a great one for free I would ruin it on purpose, and i wouldn’t even save the harvest let alone put it in my lodge. in my eyes that would be barely better than cheating in a great one.
mission animals are at their best when they’re unique and easily identifiable, that way they make for a cool thing to put in your lodge without pretending to be something that they aren’t.
great ones don’t need to be balanced so casual players can get them. they’re meant to be rare. don’t want them handed out like a participation award so people don’t feel left out
I understand how you may feel this way. I also feel that players shouldn't be able to have 50 or 60 of each of them if they want to just by grinding. If that's going to be allowable, then there needs to be some sort of counterbalance, in my opinion. I think if done correctly, a mission system great one could still be a challenging and viable experience. Yes, it would have to be much much harder than a standard mission system animal like the super rare diamond on medved. Some sort of mechanic would have to be in place to make the hunt so challenging that it's incredibly difficult to complete. One of the ways to accomplish this would be to allow it to roam the entire map instead of just spawning and staying in one place. Then, players would have to track it for a long time to try and find it. Something of that nature, perhaps.
I do, however, appreciate your desire to protect the rarity and the specialness of great ones.
@@FalxHunter I see where you’re coming from, but honestly I don’t think a handful of players having dozens of great ones is a problem. those are the same kind of people who have eight or ten thousand hours in the game, so as far as i’m concerned they earned those great ones.
grinding is just a way to play the game, it’s not better or worse than any other playstyle, and if someone wants to devote that much time to getting trophies, i think they deserve to get them.
as for the mission great one, i’m pretty certain it’s not gonna happen. jaxy said that initial spawn great ones have been removed, so I can’t imagine them going against that by spawning one in for you after you complete a few missions
I'm in a lot of agreement with you here. As excited as I am with Sundarpatan, there are a few things about it that I think are missteps. I agree that while the tahr GO is cool I feel the boar might have been even cooler and would have been better in the detail that its not exclusive to the new map. And there are so many returning animals that could have been on this map that were left out for some reason. And I don't know if its been said on a stream or post that I missed but I still don't understand why this map was delayed by 6 months.
Honestly, I think it's because the mechanics with the tiger is such a new concept that they need time to work it into the game properly. I also think they've done a lot of Graphics upgrades that were much needed with the environment. I'm wondering if they're going to go back and later update some of the older maps to reflect the updates and changes.
@@FalxHunter I would hope so, they're slowly but surely bringing up all of the old animals so fingers crossed.
You totally hit the nail on the head. We need this G1 to be a mission-based G1. It was very discouraging to me when Jaxy said on the stream that anyone can get a great one. I hope he means that they are making the G1's more attainable because now it's impossible to as a casual player.
Great ones are actually not meant to be gotten by everyone.thats the entire fricken point
@@jovanventer1308 exactly. EW even makes a point of saying most hunters will never see a great one. that's what makes them so special when u do get one. so tired of all these people complaining about great ones. just enjoy playing the game...that's the whole point of the game...to enjoy hunting. the game is not a great one game, it's a hunting game. who cares if u don't have a great one !!! when's the last time u heard someone bragging that they have the super rare bear from medved???...NEVER!! ...lol. so if u can just get a tahr great one by doing the missions.....no one will care about that either !! but i do like the idea that if the mission does spawn a great one tahr, that it be spawned anywhere on the map and now u have to go find it. not like the medved mission where it just leads u to it and u just have to shoot it.
Jova - I responded to a comment that you left directly on the video, but I want to reiterate it here. Yes, I believe the original intention was that not everyone would have a great one, and that way, they would be extra special. However, as Jaxy said in the live stream, the community has forced the game to evolve. *I don't think it was intended that players would be able to harvest upwards of 50, 60, or even 100+ of these animals by grinding either, but here we are.*
I think we need to adapt to the evolving nature of the gameplay and make it more accessible for those who can only casually play.
Togglez - I appreciate your kind words! I feel the same way you do in many situations and I really hope they are looking for ways to balance it more for casual players.
@@FalxHunter i agree to a point. but the people who have 50-60-100 great ones are not the norm. these people grind 24/7. of course if u do something more, you'll have more results. i compared the percentages of these players to my percentages and they are pretty much the same. they have 10x more great ones than me but they also killed 10x more animals and they have exactly 10x more diamonds than me. so they aren't really better at the game, they just play more than i do. and like i said, does anyone really care about the super rare they can get from the medved mission? of course they don't. so it will be a fine line between that and making mission great ones that no one cares about. it's actually the great ones that brought me back to the game. i quit for a year before anyone great ones existed because the game was boring. animals were non existent on my maps also. so people who say the great ones ruined the game ..i disagree....i think they made the game better and unique. it's just that people want instant gratification, they want a great one because they feel they deserve a great one. imo, no one "deserves" anything....just enjoy the hunt!
Should be a good map looking forward to It.
I am very much looking forward to it as well!!
I always do the story missions first thing. I love all the missions
I need to play the missions more. Apparently, there are Easter eggs and little pieces of equipment that I could be using right now that I don't because I haven't done many of them yet. I've done quite a few on Cuatro...
@@FalxHunter i think its best way to get a "starter" feel for maps. Cuatro is definitely 1 of the best maps as far as story and side missions. My ranking is probably Cuatro, Hirsch, Medved, Layton, Parque, New England, Vurhonga, Yukon, EC as great or really good then Revontuli, Te Awaroa as fine then Rancho and SRP are last far as story and side missions because they lack any side missions. And yes their is usually rewards only available through missions also that enjoy earning as well
@forktailedDevilP-38J91 Hirschfelden, eh? Surprised that it makes second on the list! I'm going to have to check it out
I like Hirsch alot because it has like 3-4 story mission arcs and a ton of side missions spun off the 3 arcs with a really sweet trophy fallow only available through missions. I highly recommend Hirsch if u looking to get into doing missions.
Eh they all look pretty great for their mountainous theme and I like that they’ve upped the difficulty with no drink zones. Kinda feel like great ones aren’t meant to be a casual thing in the slightest as even Jaxy has described them as “End Game Content” so them making it harder is kinda enjoyable
I absolutely agree that they should be end game content. And while the devs intended for Great Ones to be that way, grinders are accomplishing what should be the impossible: they're getting upwards of 50 and 60 of these animals because of how they're playing. I think we need to look beyond its original intention, like Jaxy said, and realize that the game has evolved in a way. Now, it seems a little out of balance for an animal to be so rare to be so accessible by grinding.
@@FalxHunter That’s super true, that’s why I kind of like the lack of drink zones for them as it forces grinders into the fields/forests at least makes the hunt more challenging lol
Personaly I would prefer europian bison grate one, however I might be the only one who would like this grate one
And I also thought that wild boar would be next grate one
I'm similar. I would love to see a mountain lion great one at some point. It's not a popular choice either.
The Scar!
Yeeeeah!!!! 😁
It’s just so odd they went with tahr out of all the possibilities. If EW felt they *needed* a GO tahr to help map sales, then they’re undervaluing tigers and snow leopards, lol. It also doesn’t make sense that they won’t backfill Te Awaroa with tahr until a later date-again, people are still going to buy the new map either way!
People will definitely be buying the map anyway! I thought the same about the tigers until Jaxy explained the conservation messaging around them. I don't think they want to showcase people blasting away at thousands of tigers when in the tigers' actual history, this is what eventually led to their near extinction. I agree that they should absolutely backfill these animals on Te Awaroa sometime soon.
it’s worth noting that jaxy has said multiple times that the tahr was one of the most highly requested species since te awaroa, im not surprised they would make a great one for a species the community was clamoring for so much
@@seguaye Sure, but they’re not backfilling Te Awaroa presumably to not take away from Sundarpatan sales, but that map already has enough to attract buyers. The majority of GO releases had animals that were available on many other maps, so it would’ve made sense for tahr to be backfilled, *especially* after a year of development
@@imper_gaming they’re planning on backfilling in the future, i assume it’s a time/budget constraint more than anything. putting a new animal on a map is a lot of development and sundarpatan already took a year to make
I mean they can fix that by announcing a new great one in 3 months 😂. All jokes aside, the map looks great and I'm happy with all of the new species added to the game. The Great One could of been better.
That raises an interesting question. I wonder how the community would react if one of the updates was just the release of a great one and not accompanied by anything super special... 🤔
I agree. I refused to believe that tahr's were the next GO for at least a week. But it's okay because Sundarpatan will be great!
I held out hope for a really long time! The more I think about it the more the tahr grows on me and I know that if nothing else the rest of the experience that comes with the map is going to make up for any disappointments I may be feeling at the moment. Can't wait to hear your stories that come out of Sundarpatan!
I like the anti drink zone grind direction. There are 14 other maps to continue that but a goat is a goat and excitement factor 4 out of 10 but I liked the black and white ones
I am not a mission fan and free hunt my fave but i think next map they should do 25 missions leading to final mission spawns a great one and everyone can get one
Mission difficulty appear on trophy and up to us to choose difficulty path
I love this idea! I think having mission system great ones built in would provide some much-needed balance to the game, as I said in the video. I also don't play the mission systems often, but I'm genuinely curious to see what will result from this based on the hints and the non-information we received. I definitely prefer a casual hunting experience myself.
@@FalxHunter
Difficulty: Rookie 15 missions with 10 sub missions each. The last sub mission on 15th mission get 10 vital shots in a row on every species on the map if on last species on 10th shot and you mess up shot the sub mission ruined and you start sub mission again from start
Ron Spomer - (Medium hard) The hunter we would like to be in real life 25 missions 15 sub missions and last sub mission 25 perfect vital hits in a row on every species on map in a row
Jeremiah Johnson - (full metal jacket hard ) 50 missions 25 sub missions last sub mission 50 perfect vitals on every species in a row
Hey love your work! Just want to say the game is certainly not catering grinders :)
Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to comment, and I would be curious to hear further your thoughts on how the game is not catering to grinders. Sometimes, it feels that way when there's a part of the community that feels challenged by grinding being so prolific. Can you point to specific examples?
I don't really care about GOs because in 1K hours never seen one ,I don't grind,would be nice to find one just roaming the maps.
I really wish one day when you reach level 60 it would automatically populate one great one on any of the maps where they exist. You don't know which great one it is. It could be a bear, it could be a deer...it could be a fallow or whatever. But just one of the existing great ones just automatically populates and you just have a chance to run into it. I would love that so so much.
I think they should be more white etc as to blend into the area like the snow leopard.
I can see why you would say that. Many of them have a darker tone.
🚨Jaxy confirmed dark red is not fabled🚨
Did he? Okay, that's good to know! Thank you!
I think the Great One tahr looks fine. I'm mostly disappointed by the species choice. I'd rather want a belgian tiger Great One.
I thought the same way at first actually, that the tiger might have been a better choice. However, once they explain their stance on the conservation messaging around the Bengal tiger and how it was hunted to near extinction, I can understand why they refrained. I'm sure they wouldn't want to be showing players massacring massive amounts of tigers trying to get this Great One because that's exactly what caused them to nearly go extinct in the first place.
I completely agree with you I was pretty disappointed but don’t get me wrong. It’s still a new map and a new great one and you can’t really expect much more because they’re still providing us with more stuff and at least we’re not getting nothing and we’re getting a new great one, but I am still pretty disappointed, they do need more colors not just white and black
Yeah we can still appreciate the obvious attention to detail and dedicated work of the team for sure. I think in time the experience will grow on us who may feel a little bit of a letdown. I for one am looking forward to the new hunting mechanics around the snow leopard and the Bengal tiger!!!
@@FalxHunter me to
Maybe the one he spawned in that did not have the fur on the back of the neck is the Tahr Go that you can get through the missions maybe
That's an interesting idea! It's like a great one but at a lower quality level maybe? I don't know but we will definitely see next week!
First praise to EW for their hard to give us the best hunting game.
As far as I can tell I am the only person in the community who does not care for The Great Ones. The Whitetail GO racks look like a deer with a bad hair day. I am happy for everyone who enjoys their Spider rack moose or Irish Elk Fallow. People on Facebook called me crazy but that is OK.
There was a time in my history where great ones didn't stir me as much as they do now. I kind of had the same thought where it would be nice to have but it wasn't all that big of a deal. I blame myself for falling into the grinding culture when I became a content creator and gravitating toward the entertainment value that the great one provides. I'm sure you're not alone though with people who could take or leave the great one and it really doesn't influence their game play. I do appreciate this fairly unique perspective though and the way you shared the message in a very understandable way. Thank you for taking a moment to comment!
i am not dissapointed. i just have 2 GO in my lodge.. haha.. so i have grind 2000++ maybe 3000 for whitetail GO, but no luck. so GO really too much for me.. maybe.
Make an absolutely be hard to obtain! I was probably close to 8000 and 9,000 kills for my great one moose. I think my sheer stubbornness is what pulled me through. Can't wait to hear about your experiences on the new map!
Yes on the missions!
I don’t really mind them, but… I’m not a great one collector so🤷♂️
That's good I know that there are many other things about the new map that you're excited for. I can't wait to hear about your experiences!
Should have had Ibex than some of these other animals maybe they can add them later......
I was a little surprised that ivex wasn't in the picture but I think the blue sheep will be a good animal to balance that need. It's possible they may have some stuff later you're right.
I'm scared of tigers why they put let the tigers attack you
I know how you feel! Luckily it sounds like there's a huge portion of the map that you can hunt and avoid the Tigers all together. Just keep away from the western side of the map and I think you'll be fine.
I like call of the wild I recently bought that other hunting game called Way of the Hunter I haven’t really touched call of the wild since. Call of the wild is a great game but I think the better graphics and realism of Way of the Hunter I am liking a bit more.
WOTH definitely provides a more realistic hunting experience. I wish I could get past the sound design, though. Thanks for sharing!
I probably won't try another GO grind. They have not been rewarding for me. Spend half a million on tents and tripods for a pile of dupilcate diamonds. It's the rifle I am disappointed about because they brought a map with 3 class 9's and then the heaviest, scopeless, single shot deer rifle. The specs of the cartridge are better than the 45-70 or 7mm but they won't allow me to use it on the new Yaks, Tiger or my current favorite class 9, the Water Buffalo. I guess I'll take it to Emerald Coast for salties. Crocs treat me better than GO's. In just a couple months I have almost completed an all variations rare/VR/diamond croc/gator lodge with 25 diamonds and rares never leaving my own single player PS4 map. Only missing the leucistic croc and mela gator now.
I agree with you on the rifle! With the amount of power it seemed to have I would have thought it was perfect for class 9s but I think maybe they want us to use the Arzyna since it was recently released.
I mad that they don’t have a drink time, they drink irl, this decision for them to not have a drink time I think was to make this great one more difficult not to make it more realistic
I can absolutely see your point on this. While I'm very excited that there will be no chance at water need zone grinding, it doesn't make sense biologically for the animal not to have a drink time. Maybe a better approach would have been to make their drink times completely random instead of a set time during the day. I don't know if or how they can program that. 🤔
i really see no reason to complain. a great one tahr is better than nothing, we haven't lost anything. would someone rather have no great one in this update? and i mean we have 5 other great one species already, there's zero loss. and as for the colours; tahr aren't the most flamboyant animals, i see no reason to expect polka dots or flurescent colours. the great ones being fantasy trophies are ridiculous enough as they are, are they not?
You do have a point with a fantastical nature of gray ones. I would like to think they are inspired by some real-world animals, but I've asked that of Jaxy in the live stream sometimes, and the answer is usually that they take a fantastic license with some of them.
I enjoyed your comment because it challenged me to think about how we interpret the nature of complaints. I looked up the etymology of the word and learned something about its origin. I think it's good material for a podcast, so I appreciate you being respectful about sharing your thoughts on this topic.
It’s good, idk why y’all are all mad wtf they are supposed to be difficult and this will make it more like hunting, it’s good trust and the furs are supposed to blend in, they worked hard on them
I absolutely did work hard on them. I think it's possible to be disappointed without being angry or mad necessarily. They absolutely should be difficult, and I think there are ways to accomplish this without relying solely on grinding.
Agreed, well said (:
I hate how this game is becoming less and less realistic. There's no moose in the real life like in this game, or tahr(Great ones). I will continue to play The Hunter Classic.
It becaming like a 12 year old fun game. Not a hunting simulator more like a shooting/killing game.
I recently started playing the hunter classic, and honestly, I absolutely love the game's mechanics over those of the hunter call of the wild. I love how the population gets reset regularly, so there's no chance of grinding, but there is a chance of something amazingly rare spawning in. I kind of wish they would create a system where players could opt into this choice if they played the call well so that the grinders can continue to grind and those of us who want to more authentic hunting experience can choose it if we want.
I hate the extra goofy fur colors. Like the ones that looks at least semi realistic, look great! But the black and white and skull ones… you might as well unicorns or rainbow color, it’s utter nonsense. Also the horn sets are completely wrong, way to upright and don’t swing back into the mane enough. But hey I’m not a game developer just a guy who looks at and guides tahr for a living…
It must be a different feel when you have that kind of Insider knowledge about an animal! I know that the game is taking a more fantastical approach to Great Ones, but I definitely prefer a more realistic approach as well. Thanks for sharing!
Yes I am upset with this dlc I basically waited for a full year for nothing this may be the first time that I don’t get a dlc from this game sigh.
It can be very frustrating when you wait a long time, and the result of your patience is an outcome that you weren't expecting or desiring. I'm glad you felt compelled to say something and get it off your chest. Hopefully, the experience will grow on you, but I can understand why it wouldn't, and that is okay too. 😊