@@luggerphilippe8409 he's saying vlad conducts his interviews as if it's a therapy session and they're is therapists lmao, because he just talks and talks more than the person being interviewed. he really can't fathom the idea that no one gives a shit about his input
that's because vlad pays them to be there. nobody is doing these interviews out of respect for vlad. The guy pays all his guest. Nobody goes on vladtv thinking he's such a great interviewer and a likable guy. vlad is a certified idiot and this interview and many others proves it.
The irony with your comment is that vlad can relate to it because nearly all cultures rear their kids plus vlad is Jewish. His ancestors were in bondage also.
He didn't let him speak on anything. Vlad just ignored his point and bulldozed through his commentary. It's a tactic used to throw people off. My boy would do it when we roasted each other to throw me off. Vlad is worse, though, because he doesn't know when to stop.
I grew up in a Black family with two educated, working parents in the 60s-80s and I was surrounded by other Black kids from two parent households with parents who were solidly middle class. I don't know a single kid who didn't get beatings back then. Vlad is trying to argue something he literally knows nothing about. As usual.
Maybe you're the one who should shut up and listen. Was he talking over him a little bit? Yes , but he still allowed him the chance to speak his mind. If you disagree with that, then either you didn't bother watching the whole clip or you just don't have a functioning brain.
Vlad needs to stfu!! He's really getting annoying at this point... making his interviews more about his own opinions than making the interview about his guests. Why have guests if you're just going to make the interview about you?
Yeah, I agree. Vlad is not being a good interviewer in this one. Just let the man speak, process, and then reply, but talking over the guest before he can finish his point and continuing to interrupt him makes this insufferable to watch.
The dude could barely stop interrupting himself as he tried his hardest to pin blame on whitey. All the awkward silence as he stumbled over himself to try to avoid saying things blacks would take offense to. Vlad did a great job making his points, in the midst of the buffoonery. Get real
All Mike is saying is if you was beaten as slaves for 400 years as a form of punishment that’s going to trickle down thru out generations after slavery as a method of disciplining your kids since it’s what you’re used to. The fact that vlad can’t understand that shows he just wants to win the debate instead of listening to what he’s actually saying
@@TeddyPhone-c7f nowhere did you see me say “all black ppl” do anything. He clearly said majority of black ppl. I got beat as a kid same as every other black person I know, I wouldn’t say all but I’d say majority of us got beat as a kid
@@tonymontez2358 spanking children is a human universal. You're giving yt ppl way too much credit. This thesis implies that Afrcns did not have normal human impulses to spank their kids before we were brought here. That, or you're saying that we were so emotionally advanced before being brought here that we resisted the urge to physically punish our kids in Afrca. Judging by the situation we wound up in, I doubt we were that emotionally advanced. Humans still whip their kids today across all cultures.
@@tonymontez2358 physically rearing children is a human universal. You're giving slvry way too much credit. This thesis implies that we did not have normal human impulses to rear our kids before we were brought here. That, or you're saying that we were so emotionally advanced before being brought here that we resisted the urge to physically punish our kids. Judging by the situation we wound up in, I doubt we were that emotionally advanced.
Aries aint gonna hold back. you can tell the hood wanna come out of Michael jai, but hes stuttering and i think he knows he worded it wrong from the start and coulda been laid out easier
It came from child rearing. Why would humans get the bright idea to whip slves before they got the urge to spank their own disobedient children and saw that it worked?
Slavery didn’t invent that. Mankind has had this since day one. It’s for your own good. Every culture has this except the west. Because now people are more liberal than ever.
I won't lie. I did the same to my mother around 10. She was super abusive like murder attemtpt abusive. It literally made me feel like I survived that nothing else can kill me.
Oh snap!! Don't tell us you're Mob James nephew, they say your dad was handle you like a rag doll, until your uncle Mob James was going to put foot in your dad Timmy a×... .. Nice to meet you though young blood 😎✌️
Surprisingly, I agree with Vlad. My grandmother raised me. She whipped her kids. And didn't whip me. I have a 6 year old daughter. I don't whip her. Violence was definitely introduced to her and her mother. But she went a different route when raising me.
The fact that your grandmother whipped her kids is the point that Michael was making. Initially, that behavior was ingrained into the black psyche. It's not until people see the results of the whippings or change their own worldview that the behavior has begun to change.
@BeeN-fy2jh don't do that. It wasn't that Michael tried to make it about slavery, Slavery just so happen to be a outcome of something. You can't get mad at American black people because of what your ancestors done. They just telling the history of things. If you talk about George Washington life, are you going to leave the slavery part out of his life? Some of you white people are way too immature
I'll say this.. you're not "wrong," but also, YOUR way isn't the ONLY way which people love to think. Hell, there's a reason for the saying "my way or the highway" We all definitely need structure and discipline to become productive, responsible, and functioning adults in society. I come from southern old school asswhooping discipline, me and the homies was just reminiscing on how we used to have to go pick our own switch off the bush to get whooped and not come back with no little twig or it'd be worse!😂😂 I'm all for that it worked for me, but not everyone learns the same, the same tactics don't work all across the board. Me & my brother were totally different he was getting whoopings every day he was just hard-headed and 1 of those that HAS to do what you said not to it was like an itch that had to be scratched, but even today as grown men he's still like that. Warning labels doesn't do it for him he HAS to go through it and see the consequences happen to him to get it. He could see 5 people run in front of a car and get hit and think "it won't happen to me." I was the type to see those 5 people and go "nah let me try to go another way"😂 sure I got whoopings as well, but the difference is they were never for the same thing like my brother, nor were they for something I'd already seen HIM get in trouble for. I learned from his mistakes that made me not want to do it or at least not do it the same way thinking "I won't get in trouble though." Like all the criminals who say "yeah but they did it wrong I'm gonna do it differently" but still get caught nonetheless. For big bro his thinking was "I'm not going to get caught so I'm not thinking about an asswhooping" MY thinking was "I'm not doing that BECAUSE I don't want an asswhooping. I have noticed as well that with literally ALL my friends/good friends from middle school on up I'm the only single solitary one who's never been arrested for anything(out of all black, white, Mexican races) while they've all done time with minimum of half a year/year. And we all came from the same circumstances: poor, same education, same home environment, etc. The only difference was me and my brother got whoopings none of my friends ever did, and I can say they didn't look at jail as such a terrible thing. But me? Shidd 1st off I wasn't scared to go I was more scared of the asswhooping mama or pops would put on me then all my uncles would get on my ass for. And 2nd mama scared me straight just saying I couldn't do my 2 favorite things which was eat whatever and whenever I wanted and play video games😂😂😂 shiiiid jail wasn't ever a serious thing for me after that! But raising our kids now they mostly aren't like how we were when it comes to discipline, my oldest is about to graduate and she's never even needed a voice raised at her. She just gets it she does what she's told, she's never tried to buck the rules, talk back, she's never gotten anything less than an A on her report cards, so I don't know if it even counts that she's yad "discipline" because there was never a time where she had to be told why she has to do something an adult told her or be "reasoned with" Now her little sister? 😒 Totally different smh she's never needed a real whooping/spanking yet but she definitely gets talked to more none could ever be considered what we called bad and needed whoopings. But I also worked at my aunt's daycare when I was younger and boy I know that some bebe kids just need they ass QUWHIPPED!!!! They just do. Not beat on em like they a grown adult I think some people lump all corporal punishment into "child abuse" and it's not the same. We ain't talking jumping on a kid because they were being kids and just got a little loud, or spilled food on accident things that are just innocent child things. We talking learning them RIGHT FROM WRONG, so when they go in the world with people other people who don't care nothing about them won't have to teach them the hard way not to act the way they do.
I was born in 84 and my parents never whipped me. And we were basically lower middle class most of my childhood. However, my parents were both college graduates and their parents (my grandparents) were hardworking people with homes, etc. So Vlad has a point. I think economics and upbringing play a big part in it. I don’t know any black kid who got beat whose parents were both middle class AND college graduates.
I mean middle class back then was only 68k for the household, so it wasn’t a lot of money but my gf! Her mom was a college graduate and made 100k plus and she never got whippings
You gotdamn.right..... I was born in 69...... I was a "good" kid and RARELY got whooped, but I still got whooped...... Vlad has NO IDEA of the world Black people existed in on this subject.
In other words MJW is saying we learned from our oppressors. Our oppressors used violence and took us by force and they still are using violence by force.
@@Rubrick23. Do you realize what he's saying? Or no? He's literally implying that we were so primitive before being brought here that we didn't even experience the very normal human impulse to rear our own offspring. I swear you "pro black" libs are actually the most anti-black people there are.
@@Rubrick23.Do you realize the implication of what he's saying? Or no? He's literally implying that we were so primitive before being brought here that we didn't even experience the very normal human impulse to rear our own offspring.
Vlad is 100% right. Michael Jai White is 100% wrong. Jai keeps switching the argument to try and prove his point. Vlad was right on every point. Jai kept switching the focus to try and win the argument. Jai kept changing things to try and win the argument.
Explain how he was 100% right because you provided zero clarification while trying to seem intelligent with that response you did a poor job. Explain your point or don’t make it you look slow.
MJW has a point when it comes to extra humiliiation with the belt beatings but kids all around world the world receive the belt. go to south america, middle east, africa, asia and two items will be familiar to all kids who received a beating before: slippers and belts.
This is why propositions are important, When having a debate. They're just arguing pass one another and changing the topic constantly. Between race, economics, history, slavery, ect.
Trying to say slavery introduced violence to the black family from slavery and that explains violence in the black community is crazy! He is really stretching! That is a crazy statement. People have had violence from day 1. He is 100% making up a fake argument to explain something and get away from the truth or facing reality. Being honest and intellectual. There is more violence in the black community because of loss of morality and ethics along with drugs and alcohol. Maybe some trauma. But no one is a victim to explain violence.
Not some, its 100% trauma. U lose morality, ethics, do drugs, alcohol bc of TRAUMA. White ppl whipped slaves who would then take out their frustration on their kids, after generations and generations of being beating & emasculating its obvious why lil black boys are quickest the shoot and kill someone.
He CANT...... He incessantly tries to invoke this "pleasant" answer to black problems...... He's a placebic sort of white man...... He doesnt give out REAL medicine....... He offers up placebos.... Thats as dangerous as the white man that out and out persists racist ideology!!!
I work with tons of Indian guys (from south asia) and they got whippings growing up. Child rearing is a human universal, like marriage. This "trauma" stuff is so weak.
Its called letting the guest speak art is not the only interviewer that does this and its actually refreshing because at times the guest has interesting things to say
Michael Jai White: Facts! Vlad: I gotta be right! I gotta be right! I gotta be right! Vlad feels that being rude and cutting people off will prove that he's right! 😂
Vlad should be so embarrassed right now. HD thinks he knows so much about black culture and he keeps showing he has NO CLUE and is very arrogant about being clueless
Hmm I get what MJW is trying to say… The idea of using whipping to punish children within black Americans is a result of slavery. Now that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t happening in Africa. It just means that had slavery not occurred, Black Americans who moved here would’ve rarely resorted to whippings to punish their children. For example, my African friends who grew up getting whoopings and moved to the US, never whoop their kids. Despite growing up with whoopings daily, they have never whooped their kids.
Once he said he thought it was BS until he watched a Netflix documentary to see how racism has a generational effect , because he didn’t go through it means he didn’t have to fight through that means it’s one less hard fight you have to figure out. But mindset is definitely cultivated but he started bringing up dogs , I had to be like hold up vlad wtf are you trying to say. Hopefully I can understand after finishing this shit “survival of the nicest “
The Bible says Spare the rod Spoil the child….. the Bible is thousands of years old….. people been understood u discipline thru pain or at least that’s one way of doing it
Vlad. You are a content creator… citing a study about heredity transmission in dogs. Lol as a content creator and Anthropologist by trade. I can tell you it indeed is and there are SEVERAL independent studies that have proved this.. happy to link some as well. Using a study on canines to compare to humans is about the most insane sh* I’ve heard ALL DAY. And we just fired a n* for stealing hours after I told him 5 months ago to stop because he’s on camera 😭
Spare the rod spoil the child was one of the most used quotes for black families, no matter how rich or poor they were, after slavery… black people not whipping their kids is a new phenomenon damn near
who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him” (Proverbs 13:24). Im pretty sure the word of God had been around before slavery
beat and whipped arent the same thing. Did your parents make you pick a branch off a tree, scrape the leaves off it and whip you wit it butt naked till ya back and ahs bled?
@@branflakee4257 No they were not, so called Latinas along with so called "negros" (not Africans) were the worst treated and longest enslaved, If you know history you'd know that before the 450 yrs of slavery by the Europeans they were enslaved for over a thousand years by the Arabs in the Sub Saharan slave trade, the Chinese in the Silk road slave trade, the assyrian captivity, the Greek captivity in the hellenistic period, the Egyptian captivity and the Roman Captivity. There is a BIG difference between indentured servitude which the Irish endured and Chattel Slavery. People like you that like to play it down have the slave masters blood running through your veins which is why you get so defensive, this is why the bible tells us that the people on the earth today are the same people from the past, you are your father etc and you will be judged for the sins of your fathers. Enjoy 😊.
@@branflakee4257 Did someone say black people were the only enslaved people? MY parents wernt slaves and neither were their parents or their parents. Punshing a person via physical means (pain) has been a practice used since the dawn of man. Its hardly a practice exclusive to slavery.
Why didn’t you just bring up the MidEvil era and extinguish that entire diluted concept about “whipping”. That era was ions before the Chattel events. Mike was stuck in his ways about that topic.
As an African, who grew up in Africa, I can tell you being whipped by our parents is something normal in Africa. I disagree with Michael on this point.
Or been here so long and mixed with the native aboriginal blacks that they had an ethno-genesis. There were no such things as free Blacks, everyone with black skin were reclassified as African. This would keep them from ever knowing their heritage and their birthright to a land that was stolen from - and built by them.
@@havdaironmanthere were plenty of free black peoples until the 1920s. The USA government did not control the entire continent until recently. They have y’all believing they been controlling things since 1776. Lies. They’ve never been fully in control. It’s a house of cards.
I'll have to side with Vlad on this one. I've seen all races of kids get whooped by their parents. the worst beating I ever seen a kid get from a parent was a white kid.
Honestly I think Vlad and MJW are to dumb to have a conversation... the answer is pretty obvious, they're both right.... most of the world has always beaten their kids, and their customs have their roots in their history... just as with African Americans...
It's funny how people look color don't want to be parents and do the right thing when the right thing is needed and it explains why there's so many criminals of color we're talking about people who make up 13% of the population in and out of that 13% a good percentage of them the main percentage of them criminals
This debate is not about the right topic or subject. Its about fathers in the home 100%! It has nothing to do with slavery! Its not about a time period. Some blacks were free. Not all blacks were enslaved. They are debating and arguing something they cannot possibly know about.
But I don’t think Vlad is missing his overall point. Getting your butt whip is a prevalent theme in the black communities. Micheal is talking about a deeper level of history while Vlad is just rushing to present or future of things. Of course things and people evolve but it didn’t start like that from the start.
@vincentscott2009 And Vlad is saying getting your butt whipped is prevalent in poor communities. Which Michael agreed with, when he says "poor whites and poor blacks are basically the same" Then he just started talking in circles with no point at all.
Damn this world is getting weird vlad is making more sense in this video but everybody in the comments hears this and thinks Michael jai white is more logical but im not getting his point because vlad is making more sense at the end of the day. The devil is misleading alot of people and steering them to hell.
This is were vlad loses me! He is obviously clueless about the point that Michael is trying to make. It’s been scientifically and psychologically proven that trauma is past down through genectics. He also tried to compare white familes from the 1800’s or whatever to that whipped their kids to 400 years of lashing by cruel and inhumane people who deemed other humans who only had a different color of skin non human. That’s actual comical in a sense that he actually use that as a comparison. He also tried to say Africa or Africans were naturally violent and were constantly at war. I don’t recall anywhere in history that states that Africans were always at war before a specific period of time. That’s more of a modern times thing in my opinion. Which can also be considered propaganda.
It was told not to spare the rod, but that cld be a like a measurement ruler cause all u have to do is pop a 2yr to let he/she know really not to do that...yes whipping with belts and switches like i did came from slavery..i got whipping to where bloody welts was left on as a kid and i wasnt a bad bad kid, i made all A's until 8th grade.
People don't come to Vlad for Vlad, they come for the guests..
Bro yes 100% lol
I think that’s the point! That’s why he doesn’t show his face cuz he wants the attention on the guest
💯 shut up, vlad n let the man talk. this is an interview, not a debate
@pezzyroscoe2393 it’s not really interview cuz he’s a returning guess! He’s there to talk and discuss current events, which can turn into debates
Facts 💯💯💯
Vlad need to learn how to stfu and let the guest finish their thought 💭
Vlad treats all his interviewers as if they are his therapists. Bro shut up and let them speak. Stop trying to be Mr. know it all
Your saying he's there therapist or there his?
@@luggerphilippe8409 he's saying vlad conducts his interviews as if it's a therapy session and they're is therapists lmao, because he just talks and talks more than the person being interviewed. he really can't fathom the idea that no one gives a shit about his input
@@thexro9335 my dude 😂👌
that's because vlad pays them to be there. nobody is doing these interviews out of respect for vlad. The guy pays all his guest. Nobody goes on vladtv thinking he's such a great interviewer and a likable guy. vlad is a certified idiot and this interview and many others proves it.
And this is why vlad acts the way he acts because black people lets him speak on shit he cant relate to in no kinda way
And blk ppl also continue to support him😴🥱
The irony with your comment is that vlad can relate to it because nearly all cultures rear their kids plus vlad is Jewish. His ancestors were in bondage also.
He didn't let him speak on anything. Vlad just ignored his point and bulldozed through his commentary. It's a tactic used to throw people off. My boy would do it when we roasted each other to throw me off. Vlad is worse, though, because he doesn't know when to stop.
@@nightmareknee942 did you watch the whole video. This may be the first time Mike actually did most of the talking
He just wasn't making good points
@HollyCain44 Yes, I did. He was never given a chance to articulate his thoughts in my humble opinion.
I grew up in a Black family with two educated, working parents in the 60s-80s and I was surrounded by other Black kids from two parent households with parents who were solidly middle class. I don't know a single kid who didn't get beatings back then. Vlad is trying to argue something he literally knows nothing about. As usual.
And when u ask ur parents "why did u beat us like that" they always say "well thats how i grew up"
Vlad thinks he is blacker than most blacks.......
In the 50s 60s 70s 80s black parents were still whipping their kids no matter income. It has definitely changed.
Let your guests speak Vlad
Not this fool, though. lol
@@seanfrank32 seriously. Dude was stumbling over himself trying to come up with a way to pin it on whitey. SMH.
True, but MJW can’t complete a thought to save his life lol. He’s so damn choppy with his words. 😂
Yes please
These people must really like the money thwy get from these interviews cause vlads a certified narcissist and a dork😂
Facts
And so are more than half of his guests
Prime example why VLAD should shut up and listen!
You ever had a conversation in which you didn't speak? And if you did. It's not a conversation, when people talk they both participate
@@AUPNEXTvery true. In real life it's common for people to talk over each other, esp when they're having a lively conversation
Maybe you're the one who should shut up and listen. Was he talking over him a little bit? Yes , but he still allowed him the chance to speak his mind. If you disagree with that, then either you didn't bother watching the whole clip or you just don't have a functioning brain.
@@Joshua52391 exactly and it adds to the video instead of just agreeing with everything they get push pack and have to explain more
Vlad needs to stfu!! He's really getting annoying at this point... making his interviews more about his own opinions than making the interview about his guests. Why have guests if you're just going to make the interview about you?
Agreed
EXACTLY!!!!
Diddy a cuck?
Why are you still watching?
Right and we watching because it's a platform for discussion and Vlad doesn't have kids end of discussion
Vlad interrupted way too many times in this one for me.
lol
Every time
Yeah, I agree. Vlad is not being a good interviewer in this one. Just let the man speak, process, and then reply, but talking over the guest before he can finish his point and continuing to interrupt him makes this insufferable to watch.
U mean Michael right??? You go on Vlad to be told shit about YO culture, not speak
The dude could barely stop interrupting himself as he tried his hardest to pin blame on whitey. All the awkward silence as he stumbled over himself to try to avoid saying things blacks would take offense to. Vlad did a great job making his points, in the midst of the buffoonery. Get real
All Mike is saying is if you was beaten as slaves for 400 years as a form of punishment that’s going to trickle down thru out generations after slavery as a method of disciplining your kids since it’s what you’re used to. The fact that vlad can’t understand that shows he just wants to win the debate instead of listening to what he’s actually saying
You are wrong stop saying all black people beat their kids WTF
@@TeddyPhone-c7f your comprehension skills are on zero
@@TeddyPhone-c7f nowhere did you see me say “all black ppl” do anything. He clearly said majority of black ppl. I got beat as a kid same as every other black person I know, I wouldn’t say all but I’d say majority of us got beat as a kid
@@tonymontez2358 spanking children is a human universal. You're giving yt ppl way too much credit.
This thesis implies that Afrcns did not have normal human impulses to spank their kids before we were brought here.
That, or you're saying that we were so emotionally advanced before being brought here that we resisted the urge to physically punish our kids in Afrca. Judging by the situation we wound up in, I doubt we were that emotionally advanced. Humans still whip their kids today across all cultures.
@@tonymontez2358 physically rearing children is a human universal. You're giving slvry way too much credit.
This thesis implies that we did not have normal human impulses to rear our kids before we were brought here.
That, or you're saying that we were so emotionally advanced before being brought here that we resisted the urge to physically punish our kids. Judging by the situation we wound up in, I doubt we were that emotionally advanced.
Vladimir missing the whole point 😢
like always
As usual
Naw, I think you are. The MidEvil era was far more savage and that was yt on yt devastation.
Yall hear what you want to hear.
@@KLB199x you missed the whole point ...slavery has no correlation with whipping children in black homes
Disciplining your kids is as old as time
So is slavery
@@officialjussdatdude8071 is jail or prison slavery?
abuse isnt tho. beating yo kid with whips/sticks is abuse and didnt happened until after white ppl did it to slaves. disciplining is correction.
@@culturevulture5600a form of involuntary solitude I would think that’s some type of slavery
This is why Lord Jamar and Godfrey stopped fw Vlad ….. I’m honestly intrigued to have this follow up question with Aries Spears
Aries aint gonna hold back. you can tell the hood wanna come out of Michael jai, but hes stuttering and i think he knows he worded it wrong from the start and coulda been laid out easier
Wipings came from slavery and not just black people, but all people. Egyptians were wiped. Vlad missed the point 😅
It came from child rearing.
Why would humans get the bright idea to whip slves before they got the urge to spank their own disobedient children and saw that it worked?
Bullshit....
Slavery didn’t invent that. Mankind has had this since day one. It’s for your own good. Every culture has this except the west. Because now people are more liberal than ever.
*Whipped*
It turned from slaves to ppl's own children. Human's didn't abuse ppl as much as they do today.
Vlad arguing a point that MJW isn't making.
It’s called strawman logic it’s a logical fallacy basically a stupid persons way of winning an argument lol
Exactly what I was thinking and MJW kept saying stop rewording what I said..
MJW is right on point...those who get it will and then there are those who will not....that's who he talking about.
We aren’t voting for someone trying to take away our 2A right 🤡
where is aries spears when you need him lol
Or Yayo
Oh trust they gonna revisit this shit when returns for sure lol
All I had to do was read the title and I knew Vlad was the one saying it didnt come from slavery
It didn't.
Another Vlad video I can’t finish
I’m black and I got desensitized to getting beat & told my dad to kiss my ass when I got tired of getting beat senselessly
I wishhh Id had that level of bravery, my dad was 6ft 220lbs+ any cheek like that and id have been extinguished.
I won't lie. I did the same to my mother around 10. She was super abusive like murder attemtpt abusive. It literally made me feel like I survived that nothing else can kill me.
Oh snap!! Don't tell us you're Mob James nephew, they say your dad was handle you like a rag doll, until your uncle Mob James was going to put foot in your dad Timmy a×... .. Nice to meet you though young blood 😎✌️
@@dewanewelch1744hell no that’s too much 😂
@dewanewelch1744 are you and her cool now?
Surprisingly, I agree with Vlad. My grandmother raised me. She whipped her kids. And didn't whip me. I have a 6 year old daughter. I don't whip her. Violence was definitely introduced to her and her mother. But she went a different route when raising me.
The fact that your grandmother whipped her kids is the point that Michael was making. Initially, that behavior was ingrained into the black psyche. It's not until people see the results of the whippings or change their own worldview that the behavior has begun to change.
I’m white and I say so
Kids been getting disciplined since adam and eve
@@FromTheCaveSal I bet mamma t Rex’s got in baby t Rex’s azz
💯 these lfts do anything to whine about slvry
@BeeN-fy2jh don't do that. It wasn't that Michael tried to make it about slavery, Slavery just so happen to be a outcome of something.
You can't get mad at American black people because of what your ancestors done. They just telling the history of things. If you talk about George Washington life, are you going to leave the slavery part out of his life? Some of you white people are way too immature
Nowadays it's Adam and Steve bigot lmao
@SaladeeEllis Our people learned to whip our children from our 424 years (1441-1865) of bondage.
Class gets confused with race all the time.
Class is is historically ubiquitous.
It does not get confused. White folks just want to have someone to look down on. They are the ones who keep it up
As a black person Vlad talking the up most sh*t 🤦🏽
15:59 You don’t “reason” with children. They need discipline, but they don’t need to be beaten.
100%
Kids need correction. Make them get back on task.
There are different forms of discipline for different situations. Many would say there is a place for beating as well...
You do Reason with Children Now when they grow up and Unalive you then oh well
I'll say this.. you're not "wrong," but also, YOUR way isn't the ONLY way which people love to think. Hell, there's a reason for the saying "my way or the highway"
We all definitely need structure and discipline to become productive, responsible, and functioning adults in society. I come from southern old school asswhooping discipline, me and the homies was just reminiscing on how we used to have to go pick our own switch off the bush to get whooped and not come back with no little twig or it'd be worse!😂😂 I'm all for that it worked for me, but not everyone learns the same, the same tactics don't work all across the board.
Me & my brother were totally different he was getting whoopings every day he was just hard-headed and 1 of those that HAS to do what you said not to it was like an itch that had to be scratched, but even today as grown men he's still like that. Warning labels doesn't do it for him he HAS to go through it and see the consequences happen to him to get it. He could see 5 people run in front of a car and get hit and think "it won't happen to me." I was the type to see those 5 people and go "nah let me try to go another way"😂 sure I got whoopings as well, but the difference is they were never for the same thing like my brother, nor were they for something I'd already seen HIM get in trouble for. I learned from his mistakes that made me not want to do it or at least not do it the same way thinking "I won't get in trouble though." Like all the criminals who say "yeah but they did it wrong I'm gonna do it differently" but still get caught nonetheless.
For big bro his thinking was "I'm not going to get caught so I'm not thinking about an asswhooping"
MY thinking was "I'm not doing that BECAUSE I don't want an asswhooping.
I have noticed as well that with literally ALL my friends/good friends from middle school on up I'm the only single solitary one who's never been arrested for anything(out of all black, white, Mexican races) while they've all done time with minimum of half a year/year. And we all came from the same circumstances: poor, same education, same home environment, etc. The only difference was me and my brother got whoopings none of my friends ever did, and I can say they didn't look at jail as such a terrible thing. But me? Shidd 1st off I wasn't scared to go I was more scared of the asswhooping mama or pops would put on me then all my uncles would get on my ass for. And 2nd mama scared me straight just saying I couldn't do my 2 favorite things which was eat whatever and whenever I wanted and play video games😂😂😂 shiiiid jail wasn't ever a serious thing for me after that! But raising our kids now they mostly aren't like how we were when it comes to discipline, my oldest is about to graduate and she's never even needed a voice raised at her. She just gets it she does what she's told, she's never tried to buck the rules, talk back, she's never gotten anything less than an A on her report cards, so I don't know if it even counts that she's yad "discipline" because there was never a time where she had to be told why she has to do something an adult told her or be "reasoned with"
Now her little sister? 😒
Totally different smh she's never needed a real whooping/spanking yet but she definitely gets talked to more none could ever be considered what we called bad and needed whoopings.
But I also worked at my aunt's daycare when I was younger and boy I know that some bebe kids just need they ass QUWHIPPED!!!!
They just do. Not beat on em like they a grown adult I think some people lump all corporal punishment into "child abuse" and it's not the same. We ain't talking jumping on a kid because they were being kids and just got a little loud, or spilled food on accident things that are just innocent child things. We talking learning them RIGHT FROM WRONG, so when they go in the world with people other people who don't care nothing about them won't have to teach them the hard way not to act the way they do.
I was born in 86 and I don’t know one black kid I grew up with that never been whooped by one of there parents and most of us was middle class
I was born in 84 and my parents never whipped me. And we were basically lower middle class most of my childhood. However, my parents were both college graduates and their parents (my grandparents) were hardworking people with homes, etc. So Vlad has a point. I think economics and upbringing play a big part in it. I don’t know any black kid who got beat whose parents were both middle class AND college graduates.
I mean middle class back then was only 68k for the household, so it wasn’t a lot of money but my gf! Her mom was a college graduate and made 100k plus and she never got whippings
Yup same here. Bron in 85, two parent household, dad worked, mom stayed home to be a homemaker, lived relatively well...got my ass whooped.
You gotdamn.right..... I was born in 69...... I was a "good" kid and RARELY got whooped, but I still got whooped...... Vlad has NO IDEA of the world Black people existed in on this subject.
My grandfather was whipped by his mother with an extension cord. He was born in 1934.
I was too I think nothing beats the switches you get off the tree
In other words MJW is saying we learned from our oppressors. Our oppressors used violence and took us by force and they still are using violence by force.
He couldn't be more wrong.
@@BeeN-fy2jhHaha goofy 😅
@@Rubrick23. Do you realize what he's saying? Or no?
He's literally implying that we were so primitive before being brought here that we didn't even experience the very normal human impulse to rear our own offspring.
I swear you "pro black" libs are actually the most anti-black people there are.
@@Rubrick23.Do you realize the implication of what he's saying? Or no?
He's literally implying that we were so primitive before being brought here that we didn't even experience the very normal human impulse to rear our own offspring.
Hes wrong! Most cultures around the world used corporal punishment to some degree or another
Vlad is 100% right. Michael Jai White is 100% wrong. Jai keeps switching the argument to try and prove his point. Vlad was right on every point. Jai kept switching the focus to try and win the argument. Jai kept changing things to try and win the argument.
Explain how he was 100% right because you provided zero clarification while trying to seem intelligent with that response you did a poor job. Explain your point or don’t make it you look slow.
MJW has a point when it comes to extra humiliiation with the belt beatings but kids all around world the world receive the belt. go to south america, middle east, africa, asia and two items will be familiar to all kids who received a beating before: slippers and belts.
All of the places you mentioned had more slavery than the United States.
@@seanbrown7881 slaves got beat, then took it out on their kids generations after generations.
This is why propositions are important, When having a debate. They're just arguing pass one another and changing the topic constantly.
Between race, economics, history, slavery, ect.
Trying to say slavery introduced violence to the black family from slavery and that explains violence in the black community is crazy! He is really stretching! That is a crazy statement. People have had violence from day 1. He is 100% making up a fake argument to explain something and get away from the truth or facing reality. Being honest and intellectual. There is more violence in the black community because of loss of morality and ethics along with drugs and alcohol. Maybe some trauma. But no one is a victim to explain violence.
Not some, its 100% trauma. U lose morality, ethics, do drugs, alcohol bc of TRAUMA. White ppl whipped slaves who would then take out their frustration on their kids, after generations and generations of being beating & emasculating its obvious why lil black boys are quickest the shoot and kill someone.
Vlad ain’t trying to hear it 😅 He knows Michael Jai White is making some valid points.
Lord!!! Vlad just stop interrupting and let the man explain his point. Even if you don’t agree, just let him finish his point so you understand him
He CANT...... He incessantly tries to invoke this "pleasant" answer to black problems...... He's a placebic sort of white man...... He doesnt give out REAL medicine....... He offers up placebos.... Thats as dangerous as the white man that out and out persists racist ideology!!!
I’m not black and I was getting whooped at the time.
I'm out , I can't listen to this bs
Why so fam?
lol!!! I kinda got lost on what the argument was😅
So what’s ur thoughts??
Vlad going off subject
I work with tons of Indian guys (from south asia) and they got whippings growing up. Child rearing is a human universal, like marriage. This "trauma" stuff is so weak.
With sticks. Understand were they learned it from. Idiots slave owners sent out books on how to control and displayed culture of whipping.
True
America isn’t the only country that tortured and enslaved people
Exactly
U must not be black. If u were u would recognize the disparity in the level of violence… That’s Michael’s argument.
I too sometimes keep arguing until my friends give up or agree
This isn’t an interview anymore. It’s an argument to agree to disagree.
Its called letting the guest speak art is not the only interviewer that does this and its actually refreshing because at times the guest has interesting things to say
Michael Jai White: Facts! Vlad: I gotta be right! I gotta be right! I gotta be right! Vlad feels that being rude and cutting people off will prove that he's right! 😂
Please let the people you are interviewing speak and finish their points. The interruptions are beginning to become too frequent
She did deny inmates parole so they could continue to work for slave wages.
He giving slave masters way too much credit
He is. Mike is a big O drama queen.
I have to admit I love hearing MJW speak. Him and uncle murda
Vlad moves the goal posts so far, they end up in a different football field.
I promise he did.
He does this all the time
Idk how Michael kept his composure
Vlad is dodging those questions, like Michael dodges punches 😂
Whipping your children came from slavery now? Wow. This whole interview, Mike's been sounding like he's hanging out with D.L. Hughley these days.
This guest started speaking some deep stuff. I’m glad Vlad let him get all that off. Black people and all people have to realize some things.
Mr Vlad's been in his guest's mouth ever since I started watching his interviews. I keep coming back for more, maybe I like it!
Vlad should be so embarrassed right now. HD thinks he knows so much about black culture and he keeps showing he has NO CLUE and is very arrogant about being clueless
I really enjoyed hearing Michael Jai White interview Vlad on VladTV. Thanks Michael for bringing Vlad on as a guest 😂😂
"What happened to Little Jimmy?" R-Truth
Yo that's a crazy pull😂
Vlad just can't relate, simple as that
Another example of correlation does not equal causation. 👍
We're not voting for Scamala.
You one of those huh? How did this turn into politics?
I ain’t either but I hope Vlad doesn’t start talking about politics all the time.
You're proving White's point...
Michael White was on point with everything he was saying. Extremely on point.
Vlad won this debate Im sorry. And I’m a black man
MJW is just talking in circles. And he's contradicting himself. He said himself, "Poor whites and poor blacks are basically the same."
Yr an idiot 😅
Yea I gotta say Vlad right...I would not be surprised that the act whipping came from Africa itself..
@@danielbarry5547you probably think he was right on Marlon Wayans situation also?
Hmm I get what MJW is trying to say… The idea of using whipping to punish children within black Americans is a result of slavery. Now that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t happening in Africa. It just means that had slavery not occurred, Black Americans who moved here would’ve rarely resorted to whippings to punish their children. For example, my African friends who grew up getting whoopings and moved to the US, never whoop their kids. Despite growing up with whoopings daily, they have never whooped their kids.
Once he said he thought it was BS until he watched a Netflix documentary to see how racism has a generational effect , because he didn’t go through it means he didn’t have to fight through that means it’s one less hard fight you have to figure out. But mindset is definitely cultivated but he started bringing up dogs , I had to be like hold up vlad wtf are you trying to say. Hopefully I can understand after finishing this shit
“survival of the nicest “
The Bible says Spare the rod Spoil the child….. the Bible is thousands of years old….. people been understood u discipline thru pain or at least that’s one way of doing it
1491 kjb. The bible been around for hundreds of yrs, but the bible was created from other historical ancient scrolls that's thousands of yrs.
Ethiopian Bible 325 A.D over a thousand 1,700 years ago
Great dialogs and prime example of why u r a guest Vlad.... Respectfully
Vlad. You are a content creator… citing a study about heredity transmission in dogs.
Lol as a content creator and Anthropologist by trade. I can tell you it indeed is and there are SEVERAL independent studies that have proved this.. happy to link some as well.
Using a study on canines to compare to humans is about the most insane sh* I’ve heard ALL DAY. And we just fired a n* for stealing hours after I told him 5 months ago to stop because he’s on camera 😭
Why is that insane if biological evolution takes place through natural selection through all life forms.
You caught they too huh smh
Scientists use studies on rodents and all kinds of mammals and compare them to humans. So Vlad reference has a lot of validity.
Spare the rod spoil the child was one of the most used quotes for black families, no matter how rich or poor they were, after slavery… black people not whipping their kids is a new phenomenon damn near
who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him” (Proverbs 13:24).
Im pretty sure the word of God had been around before slavery
If u still believe in that book seek help. They had slaves too and said respect your owners lmaooo loving god tho right
@Numbers-mc2ks western vs eastern slavery are two different things.. and of course language and terminology is different.. but go off doe!
The " word of God" right lol
@@vontesantos5981 believe what u want
This just shows me how delusional vlad is
Basically he is saying the rich and poor act the same black or white. I agree. I think that is true!
Im bosnian and i got beat by my parents. It wasnt introduced by "slave masters" for us.
beat and whipped arent the same thing. Did your parents make you pick a branch off a tree, scrape the leaves off it and whip you wit it butt naked till ya back and ahs bled?
Black people were not the only enslaved people
Yeah, corporal punishment is old Aaf
@@branflakee4257 No they were not, so called Latinas along with so called "negros" (not Africans) were the worst treated and longest enslaved, If you know history you'd know that before the 450 yrs of slavery by the Europeans they were enslaved for over a thousand years by the Arabs in the Sub Saharan slave trade, the Chinese in the Silk road slave trade, the assyrian captivity, the Greek captivity in the hellenistic period, the Egyptian captivity and the Roman Captivity. There is a BIG difference between indentured servitude which the Irish endured and Chattel Slavery. People like you that like to play it down have the slave masters blood running through your veins which is why you get so defensive, this is why the bible tells us that the people on the earth today are the same people from the past, you are your father etc and you will be judged for the sins of your fathers. Enjoy 😊.
@@branflakee4257 Did someone say black people were the only enslaved people? MY parents wernt slaves and neither were their parents or their parents. Punshing a person via physical means (pain) has been a practice used since the dawn of man. Its hardly a practice exclusive to slavery.
Vlad thinking he knows more about black people than black people is getting old
Aye man MJW lost his mind with this one
He's talking in circles.
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Why didn’t you just bring up the MidEvil era and extinguish that entire diluted concept about “whipping”. That era was ions before the Chattel events. Mike was stuck in his ways about that topic.
Michael sounds like the uncle who happened to walk in house after you got beat by your parents ...hold it down for me unc (while you wiping tears)😂😂😂
I understand what Mr. White is saying… but I disagree as a black person myself
Mr White said nothing wrong
He actually said everything wrong, even about kummala.
As an African, who grew up in Africa, I can tell you being whipped by our parents is something normal in Africa. I disagree with Michael on this point.
My ancestors didn’t come from Africa they were already here before slavery
Lies
phenotype says bullshit ..
Or been here so long and mixed with the native aboriginal blacks that they had an ethno-genesis. There were no such things as free Blacks, everyone with black skin were reclassified as African. This would keep them from ever knowing their heritage and their birthright to a land that was stolen from - and built by them.
@@kofitheakan9328 😂
@@havdaironmanthere were plenty of free black peoples until the 1920s. The USA government did not control the entire continent until recently. They have y’all believing they been controlling things since 1776. Lies. They’ve never been fully in control. It’s a house of cards.
This was said so well. Exactly how I feel
I'll have to side with Vlad on this one. I've seen all races of kids get whooped by their parents. the worst beating I ever seen a kid get from a parent was a white kid.
Not by belt.
@@Rubrick23. yes, by a belt.
Honestly I think Vlad and MJW are to dumb to have a conversation... the answer is pretty obvious, they're both right.... most of the world has always beaten their kids, and their customs have their roots in their history... just as with African Americans...
Vlad moved the goal post 10000 times just let the man talk.
The whole diatribe MJW just said made absolutely no sense. Literally nonsense
MJWs dedication to context should be admired
This is y we cant discuss black isssues with non blacks
Y?
At all. They outside looking in.
Facts
@@JordanNixon-vg3jdbecause of the spin narrative and justification of barbarian behavior!
Exactly 🎯
Remember this the same guy who said he could beat Bruce Lee!
I really wish our people would stop going to his interviews. He is the definition of a culture LEACH!
Say it as it is Michael. Keep changing things Vlad... keep it up...
but did kids turn out better growing up in the 50s vs growing up now?
It's not a fact ass whoopings work y'all slow asf
So my Latino ancestors were beat by the chancleta because mom beat my ass with a belt and/or chancleta.
Im a Hispanic for Trump and I'm tired of crying babies always crying racism
And nothing no one can say is going to change that not even a woke actor
People of color not beating their kids but when they need it is the reason why we got so many problems from people of color
It's funny how people look color don't want to be parents and do the right thing when the right thing is needed and it explains why there's so many criminals of color we're talking about people who make up 13% of the population in and out of that 13% a good percentage of them the main percentage of them criminals
Well wont you go back to your Homeland Country and help fix and build it up! Instead of fleeing from problems and facing them.
Amen
This debate is not about the right topic or subject. Its about fathers in the home 100%! It has nothing to do with slavery! Its not about a time period. Some blacks were free. Not all blacks were enslaved. They are debating and arguing something they cannot possibly know about.
Vlad sounds brilliant next to this dude, honestly.
But I don’t think Vlad is missing his overall point. Getting your butt whip is a prevalent theme in the black communities. Micheal is talking about a deeper level of history while Vlad is just rushing to present or future of things. Of course things and people evolve but it didn’t start like that from the start.
@vincentscott2009 And Vlad is saying getting your butt whipped is prevalent in poor communities. Which Michael agreed with, when he says "poor whites and poor blacks are basically the same" Then he just started talking in circles with no point at all.
I’m sorry but I agree with Vlad on this one!!
I do too people with education and sense didn't part take in that...they don't now
Glad done turned into the Molly Qerim of his own show. STFU sometimes
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I think the point of an interview/talk is to let the guest speak. Vlad doesnt know manners. It's really sad.
Michael wrong on that argument. It’s an economic thing
Facts Mike!!
Told It like it is!
Damn this world is getting weird vlad is making more sense in this video but everybody in the comments hears this and thinks Michael jai white is more logical but im not getting his point because vlad is making more sense at the end of the day. The devil is misleading alot of people and steering them to hell.
This is were vlad loses me! He is obviously clueless about the point that Michael is trying to make. It’s been scientifically and psychologically proven that trauma is past down through genectics. He also tried to compare white familes from the 1800’s or whatever to that whipped their kids to 400 years of lashing by cruel and inhumane people who deemed other humans who only had a different color of skin non human. That’s actual comical in a sense that he actually use that as a comparison. He also tried to say Africa or Africans were naturally violent and were constantly at war. I don’t recall anywhere in history that states that Africans were always at war before a specific period of time. That’s more of a modern times thing in my opinion. Which can also be considered propaganda.
No. It didn't.
It’s in the Bible😂😂😂
This goofy think Africa don’t belt each other with sticks ? Then ninjas burn people alive foh
@@trumpdrago517 alot of things they did to us was "in the bible" tf
it definitely did, explain why nobody else in the world that wasnt touched by colonial slavery dont use a belt or whipping branch to whip they kids
It was told not to spare the rod, but that cld be a like a measurement ruler cause all u have to do is pop a 2yr to let he/she know really not to do that...yes whipping with belts and switches like i did came from slavery..i got whipping to where bloody welts was left on as a kid and i wasnt a bad bad kid, i made all A's until 8th grade.