Option C. Castle Leazes. Brand New Stadium. That’s my choice. Sir John wanted it back in the day. Whatever happens - it’s our fans that make ‘a stadium’ the atmosphere, the noise, the passion.
Please matty ,your a man with the profile , to remind all our supporters and loyal fans , that on the 11th of May, we are at home to Brighton and it would have been Jackie Milburns 100th birthday, he's a legend, so why not have a minutes applause on the 11th minute to remember him and his value to our fantastic football club ,
Option C for me all day, no need to wait years to build if permission is granted as building can take place whilst St James park is being used.Why not move part of the Leazers Park into Castle Leazers and NUFC pay for the upkeep and maintenance of it?62,000 will not cut it as you need to remember there are over 100,000 members trying to get tickets in the ballots apparently? Don’t worry about filling the stadium as you could drop the ticket prices as per the cup games and this gives less well off people the chance to attend games.
Build a new castle on Castle Leazes. Taking inspiration from the castle keep, and the sandstone buildings around town. Leave the old pitch where it is, to allow future generations to play football on the same grass as our legends. Incorporate it all into Leazes Park, so the park becomes our version of Wembley Way. It could look absolutely stunning.
I’m all for plan C it looks fabulous it’s more in keeping with the park and the listed buildings fit in better with the surroundings. The stadium will just looked too crammed in with the other plans. I’d rather see a new stadium rather than a temporary stand to be honest.
I say option c. If we provide funding and maintenance to leazes park, and dont forget the extra room and light it will give leazes terrace, i think it is the best option. Having been involved in the construction /upgrade of several premier league stadiums, st james needs a major overhaul providing better facilities and experience for fans, including away fans, and a build from ground up will provide that. We wouldnt have to borrow a stadium during construction neither, or lose capacity during construction, which could be a possibility with the Gallowgate expansion 😢
Don't think some people realise the toon dominant the whole north of England we have alot of fans thay might not be speed all over the world like some of the other big teams but to are advantage there on are doorstep so we can fill a monster stadium
What is the obsession with having a big ground...80,000 lol ..if we are winning champions league every season then fair enough we might fill it but if we are not successful like we have been for the last 50 odd years then forget it..wasn't thst long ago we average 16000 and low as 10000 until keegan /Hall turned up...there's nothing wrong with St James, by arsenal standards they have hardly been successful since moving grounds....spurs are hardly winning trophies either ,let's get what is important first and have a great team that the fans deserve ...
I think they build the new stadium, and keep st James with training pitches, or with a ground for the women’s team to play their matches. Or combine and add a fan zone into it for pre-match etc.
Problem with what you are suggesting; it's just putting off the inevitable, and that is that a much larger stadium needs to be built. The sooner that this happens the better. There are too many problems and expenses incurred by kicking the tin down the road.
PIF are going to want a new space age stadium, this is the jewel in the ground and even going as far as extending the rest of the stadium to be like Milburn and Leazes isn't luxury enough ala Spurs Stadium and Atlanta.
Toon would hit way in excess of 80k on match days under the current regime. The whole of the northeast want tickets think people tend to forget the north east doesn't end with newcastle. Newcastle supporters go as far as berwick and that's just north
Rebuild the Milburn, lower tier in. move the pitch. Rebuild,adding balcony to the east side. No need to go all the way up. Everton’s new stadium. Gallowgate stand last.
Matty OPTION C without a doubt. I am sure something could be agreed with all the stakeholders whereby they could move the bandstand et al to in front of leazes tce to placate all the greens
I know it's a bit far away but Darlingtons ground isn't getting used is it till we re-build, it's always a option was a good ground or what about after the gallowgate the East stand with vertical retracting stand sort of like what American school gyms have where they pull out on game days sure with modern tech something could be done
Option D - Ok so assuming moneys no option...Why not go down? from the outside the stadium height won't change to suit the East stand but from the inside it will be buried into the ground (One side) the other three sides could also stay same height but again be lowered down inside? This would move the footprint out slightly but keeping the height and edge the same at east stand.
Hi, I'm not a Newcastle Utd fan, but I love to see architecture design, especially in football. Just a point of view, but I am concerned about the migration away from football caused by VAR. This is already starting to see some attendance beginning to dwindle. Something needs to change to keep the true supporters gripped and on the edge of your seat. This reason could affect your overall vision for what stadium capacity is needed long-term.
As much as option C will probably be most people's choice, they'd have to grease the palms of the Leazes Park/conservationists high & mighty to be allowed to do that I reckon. If not only for the bandstand & Terrace. I'm sure a big enough brown envelope will grease the wheels nicely though.
After trying numerous times through the Ballot and receiving sweet F.A. Expanding the stadium is the answer.However even then if they run a ballot like they have now it will only P@£S fans off
I can personally guarantee we would sell out 80k seats. Why wouldn't we? The season tickets have a year waiting list, we have no competition for top flight football in the area and as a Lincolnshire lad, I have never been able to get hold of a ticket every time I've been in the city. As the saying goes, build it and they will come
What is so bad about having an 80k stadium and not filling it 40% of the time? You’d still fill it 60% of the time and make a heckuva lot more profit at the end of the season, than filling a 65k stadium 100% of the time. And don’t forget the 40% of the time you don’t fill the stadium, you might be jumping from 68k to 75k attendance which is still above capacity of the smaller 65k stadium. Not that difficult to do a questionnaire asking how many people miss out on games and how many games they can foresee themselves attending a season. Dont Newcastle like Liverpool have a waiting list for tickets that is over a decade for some fans?
I like options (C) yeah they will be obstacles, but their r obstacles for all for 4 sites we wud fill the new stadium no doubt about that, they r thousands of supporters like myself can't get tickets. I agree if we decide to new stadium it will be after the Euro's.
When John hall had the club, there was 36 thousand season ticket holders and 36 thousand on a waiting list. Given how long ago that was i would add at least 10 to 15 thousand to that, or we will put grow the ground too soon.
They won’t waste money on making the stadium bigger to knock it down and start again and build a new one on a different site if they extend we will be staying imo which I prefer, We already have 52k the price to build that again is crazy and add some, it’s far better financially to try and add to what we already have
got the richest owners in the world, untapped potential nobody has ever seen before, and we refuse to even think of the possibility of a new state of the art stadium. Missed opportunity imo but each to their own. in 20/30 years will we want a new one? chance might have gone by then
It would be a total waste of money to extend SJP. I know PIF have a bottomless pit of money, but even they won't like wasting it. If the plan is to get capacity to 62,000/65,000 first to see how it goes, then we might as well build a new stadium with that capacity in the first instance. THEN, extend if we can prove we can fill it every week.
That’s the main issue I feel, no where really sustainable to play during the build as people suggest Kingston Park with possible temporary stands or Gateshead stadium but it’ll be tricky!
Nah, stuff the gradual build. Got enough of that with fffp. Gan straight for the mega stadium with hotel (Chelsea stylee 😉). Start raking in the massive season ticket revenue asap
To take down the Gallowgate and rebuild it to add 6k seats... cost 1 billion.. to build a whole stadium costs 6 billion and adds 25k seats and revamps the lot... Now think about it... in ten years you have recovered the costs and start earning profit.. With a Gallowgate extension the stadium is still shit and you earn the cost back in 5 or 6 years and it's still shit. So .. help me out here.. Who can count?
C looks class but in idea world what I think what will happen they would put more seats in the gallowgate end . Like you say put extra 8 thousand seats in there .
To compete FFP we are going to have to build a new stadium simple as that spurs earn 6million per match day if we want to stay @ st James park might as well get Ashley back sentimentality will not get us to where we need to be and we need to deal with that
Have you been to Saudi Arabia or seen the projects they have going at the moment like the line these people don’t just patch things up they build brand new and the best of the best the highest quality building a new world class stadium with world class concourse facilities corporate facilities to attract big big money the money it would cost to rebuild a brand new stadium is peanuts to these people
@@michaelgreen1577 no it hasn’t it’s still going to be the same length as it always was you obviously have not read it and just seen it’s said to be scaled down. It’s only going to house 300.000 people by 2030 and not ready for 1.5 million people
We don’t need a new stadium - arsenal have 62k capacity and are in LONDON yet haven’t won the league since they’ve been at the emirates for nearly 20 years and were out of the top 4 for around 4 years. It dosent guarantee anything nor give the big advantage some think it does. Clubs would kill to have the aura of SJP, Anfield, Old Trafford and these grounds actually do win x more points a season than we otherwise would. I can say with confidence we would miss SJP once the buzz would die off after a few years of a shiny, soulless stadium. I saw spurs fans pissed off that they dont have any legend statues outside their stadium and it’s all about hospitality etc. The grass is not greener I assure you. SJP is the best option.
As good as C looks its a complete non starter as it encroaches on to the conservation area of the park and the protected listed victorian band stand and there is no chance in hell the owners would get planning permission. Option b has been done to death so i wont even go into why that wont happen so that leaves A. The most likely on paper but still not straight forward and you have to wonder weather its worth all that time and money for what won't even be that big of an increase to capacity, in any case the fan zone is first on the agenda and with St james park to host Euro2028 games nothing will be happening until that has been and gone, which is still 4 years away, aside from probably the increase in safe standing areas and thats about it, sadly.
What they should do is chuck the Freemen in jail and give their cows to McDonalds to turn into burgers. Then, build a new stadium complex on the Town Moor. Currently, it's not an area of beauty - it's just a massive muddy field. It's right near the town centre, and it would alleviate the horrendous traffic congestion directly outside of Newcastle's major hospital and A&E department on match days.
Rather than an 80000 seater I think they’ll go more for 65 range and big on the corporate. That’s where you make the money . Not squeezing every last sqm with seats
Matty man seriously you need to distance yourself with Adam P he's a monumental helmet, theres something not right with him. He's a proper oddball and a lot of Toon fans hate him. You don't need him coz your channel is doing great. Get rid mate
how many times are people going to agree with option C , you can t build on that part of Leaze s park, we don t need an 80 000 seater stadium , 65000 and more hospitality bring s in more money than 80, the East stand can be developed better than it it already is and made to look nicer,
Option C. Castle Leazes. Brand New Stadium. That’s my choice. Sir John wanted it back in the day. Whatever happens - it’s our fans that make ‘a stadium’ the atmosphere, the noise, the passion.
I'd love nothing more than a stadium in the style of the castle keep, on Castle Leazes. Imagine that peeping out over Leazes Park.
Not quite how it works is it
Please matty ,your a man with the profile , to remind all our supporters and loyal fans , that on the 11th of May, we are at home to Brighton and it would have been Jackie Milburns 100th birthday, he's a legend, so why not have a minutes applause on the 11th minute to remember him and his value to our fantastic football club ,
9th minuet would probably be more appropriate being probably our second most famous number 9
Option C for me all day, no need to wait years to build if permission is granted as building can take place whilst St James park is being used.Why not move part of the Leazers Park into Castle Leazers and NUFC pay for the upkeep and maintenance of it?62,000 will not cut it as you need to remember there are over 100,000 members trying to get tickets in the ballots apparently? Don’t worry about filling the stadium as you could drop the ticket prices as per the cup games and this gives less well off people the chance to attend games.
C!!!!
East stand is embarrassing for our club
Option C. Looks world class.
Build a new castle on Castle Leazes. Taking inspiration from the castle keep, and the sandstone buildings around town. Leave the old pitch where it is, to allow future generations to play football on the same grass as our legends. Incorporate it all into Leazes Park, so the park becomes our version of Wembley Way.
It could look absolutely stunning.
I’m all for plan C it looks fabulous it’s more in keeping with the park and the listed buildings fit in better with the surroundings. The stadium will just looked too crammed in with the other plans.
I’d rather see a new stadium rather than a temporary stand to be honest.
Option C for me. Move the bandstand & steps; much easier than leazes terrace.
I say option c. If we provide funding and maintenance to leazes park, and dont forget the extra room and light it will give leazes terrace, i think it is the best option. Having been involved in the construction /upgrade of several premier league stadiums, st james needs a major overhaul providing better facilities and experience for fans, including away fans, and a build from ground up will provide that. We wouldnt have to borrow a stadium during construction neither, or lose capacity during construction, which could be a possibility with the Gallowgate expansion 😢
Heart says stay and extend... Head says shiney new stadium... Top facilities... Is the way to go...thats a sign of the times im afraid
Only SJP
Newcastle Could easily fill out a 80 thousand seater stadium
Don't think some people realise the toon dominant the whole north of England we have alot of fans thay might not be speed all over the world like some of the other big teams but to are advantage there on are doorstep so we can fill a monster stadium
What is the obsession with having a big ground...80,000 lol ..if we are winning champions league every season then fair enough we might fill it but if we are not successful like we have been for the last 50 odd years then forget it..wasn't thst long ago we average 16000 and low as 10000 until keegan /Hall turned up...there's nothing wrong with St James, by arsenal standards they have hardly been successful since moving grounds....spurs are hardly winning trophies either ,let's get what is important first and have a great team that the fans deserve ...
@@alanmoor615Keegan & Hall turned up in 92, it’s 2024, that’s 30 yrs!
@@michaelmckie9164 and your point is !!
I think they build the new stadium, and keep st James with training pitches, or with a ground for the women’s team to play their matches. Or combine and add a fan zone into it for pre-match etc.
Problem with what you are suggesting; it's just putting off the inevitable, and that is that a much larger stadium needs to be built. The sooner that this happens the better. There are too many problems and expenses incurred by kicking the tin down the road.
PIF are going to want a new space age stadium, this is the jewel in the ground and even going as far as extending the rest of the stadium to be like Milburn and Leazes isn't luxury enough ala Spurs Stadium and Atlanta.
This is the north east we don't want luxury
I recon they'll do something with Gateshead stadium on a temp basis while the new sjp is being built
Gateshead stadium is more open, just recon that some kind of temp construction would be easyer. If they do demolish and start from scratch that is
Toon would hit way in excess of 80k on match days under the current regime. The whole of the northeast want tickets think people tend to forget the north east doesn't end with newcastle. Newcastle supporters go as far as berwick and that's just north
Rebuild the Milburn, lower tier in. move the pitch. Rebuild,adding balcony to the east side. No need to go all the way up. Everton’s new stadium. Gallowgate stand last.
Matty OPTION C without a doubt. I am sure something could be agreed with all the stakeholders whereby they could move the bandstand et al to in front of leazes tce to placate all the greens
@Justlookin958 grade 2 is not a grade 1 and therefore does not have the same level of protection CLEARLY that is obvious
@ronwhitfield8872 grade 2 has less protection than grade 1 CLEARLY that is obvious
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I know it's a bit far away but Darlingtons ground isn't getting used is it till we re-build, it's always a option was a good ground or what about after the gallowgate the East stand with vertical retracting stand sort of like what American school gyms have where they pull out on game days sure with modern tech something could be done
Option D - Ok so assuming moneys no option...Why not go down? from the outside the stadium height won't change to suit the East stand but from the inside it will be buried into the ground (One side) the other three sides could also stay same height but again be lowered down inside? This would move the footprint out slightly but keeping the height and edge the same at east stand.
Isn't there like a 20k people waiting list for season ticket?
Hi, I'm not a Newcastle Utd fan, but I love to see architecture design, especially in football.
Just a point of view, but I am concerned about the migration away from football caused by VAR.
This is already starting to see some attendance beginning to dwindle.
Something needs to change to keep the true supporters gripped and on the edge of your seat.
This reason could affect your overall vision for what stadium capacity is needed long-term.
The toon could easily sell out 80000 tickets. Option C all day. Isn't Newcastle United the best asset of the city?
Agreed! It's a Football Mad City. Build a Stadium the supporters deserve.
The new stadium is the best option, time to build squad and progress club whilst the legalities are sorted. Return SJP to nature.
As much as option C will probably be most people's choice, they'd have to grease the palms of the Leazes Park/conservationists high & mighty to be allowed to do that I reckon. If not only for the bandstand & Terrace. I'm sure a big enough brown envelope will grease the wheels nicely though.
After trying numerous times through the Ballot and receiving sweet F.A. Expanding the stadium is the answer.However even then if they run a ballot like they have now it will only P@£S fans off
I can personally guarantee we would sell out 80k seats. Why wouldn't we? The season tickets have a year waiting list, we have no competition for top flight football in the area and as a Lincolnshire lad, I have never been able to get hold of a ticket every time I've been in the city. As the saying goes, build it and they will come
I don't think 60-62,000 would be enough to generate the revenue required, has anyone done a calculation on this.
Not many stadiums bigger than that in the league though
What is so bad about having an 80k stadium and not filling it 40% of the time? You’d still fill it 60% of the time and make a heckuva lot more profit at the end of the season, than filling a 65k stadium 100% of the time.
And don’t forget the 40% of the time you don’t fill the stadium, you might be jumping from 68k to 75k attendance which is still above capacity of the smaller 65k stadium.
Not that difficult to do a questionnaire asking how many people miss out on games and how many games they can foresee themselves attending a season.
Dont Newcastle like Liverpool have a waiting list for tickets that is over a decade for some fans?
Charnleys old master said he was told 40mil to do the East and complete the circle years ago so it aint cheap.But the club needs it.
I like options (C) yeah they will be obstacles, but their r obstacles for all for 4 sites we wud fill the new stadium no doubt about that, they r thousands of supporters like myself can't get tickets. I agree if we decide to new stadium it will be after the Euro's.
New stadiums are just too corporate and feel like some kind of shopping mall
When John hall had the club, there was 36 thousand season ticket holders and 36 thousand on a waiting list. Given how long ago that was i would add at least 10 to 15 thousand to that, or we will put grow the ground too soon.
They won’t waste money on making the stadium bigger to knock it down and start again and build a new one on a different site if they extend we will be staying imo which I prefer,
We already have 52k the price to build that again is crazy and add some, it’s far better financially to try and add to what we already have
got the richest owners in the world, untapped potential nobody has ever seen before, and we refuse to even think of the possibility of a new state of the art stadium. Missed opportunity imo but each to their own. in 20/30 years will we want a new one? chance might have gone by then
but yet you have to sell players this summer to keep the books the right side of FFP
It would be a total waste of money to extend SJP. I know PIF have a bottomless pit of money, but even they won't like wasting it. If the plan is to get capacity to 62,000/65,000 first to see how it goes, then we might as well build a new stadium with that capacity in the first instance. THEN, extend if we can prove we can fill it every week.
Up for all of that matty, BUT where we gonna play during the build and home games won't be the same , in how ever long it will take
That’s the main issue I feel, no where really sustainable to play during the build as people suggest Kingston Park with possible temporary stands or Gateshead stadium but it’ll be tricky!
@TheMagpieChannelTV only way in my opinion is relocate, build the fortress and carry on at SJP until the move?
Nah, stuff the gradual build. Got enough of that with fffp. Gan straight for the mega stadium with hotel (Chelsea stylee 😉). Start raking in the massive season ticket revenue asap
Extending the ground doesn’t make financial sense. Unless you’re going to charge £75 minimum per match.
Think we would fill 80k with ease, 200k tried to get a member ship this year so shy not
To take down the Gallowgate and rebuild it to add 6k seats... cost 1 billion.. to build a whole stadium costs 6 billion and adds 25k seats and revamps the lot...
Now think about it... in ten years you have recovered the costs and start earning profit.. With a Gallowgate extension the stadium is still shit and you earn the cost back in 5 or 6 years and it's still shit.
So .. help me out here.. Who can count?
Gonna have the world watching in the Euros the Gallowgate End should be getting started now
c and start building it NOW LOL .
C and all those opposing, be invited to a Saudi Embassy reception in country to be decided. 🤔
C looks class but in idea world what I think what will happen they would put more seats in the gallowgate end .
Like you say put extra 8 thousand seats in there .
Why don't you share with Sunderland and expand it?
So so many rumours, and here’s another one wow 😒
Checked the vid out, no way option B has a full sized pitch, option C is laughable, no way we are going that far into Leazes Park.
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To compete FFP we are going to have to build a new stadium simple as that spurs earn 6million per match day if we want to stay @ st James park might as well get Ashley back sentimentality will not get us to where we need to be and we need to deal with that
Might hire a jcb bye bye listed buildings😂😂😂😂
I think you’ll be waiting an awful long time for any extension…. Far to many logistics
Option A
63.
And a half thousand the capacity will be
And what happens when some plonk drives a Tesla under the stand along that road and it spontaneously blows up? Buggered 🤦
Have you been to Saudi Arabia or seen the projects they have going at the moment like the line these people don’t just patch things up they build brand new and the best of the best the highest quality building a new world class stadium with world class concourse facilities corporate facilities to attract big big money the money it would cost to rebuild a brand new stadium is peanuts to these people
This line caper has failed its now going to be no where as long as they said ! Must be saving up for the new sjp 😂
@@michaelgreen1577 no it hasn’t it’s still going to be the same length as it always was you obviously have not read it and just seen it’s said to be scaled down. It’s only going to house 300.000 people by 2030 and not ready for 1.5 million people
We don’t need a new stadium - arsenal have 62k capacity and are in LONDON yet haven’t won the league since they’ve been at the emirates for nearly 20 years and were out of the top 4 for around 4 years. It dosent guarantee anything nor give the big advantage some think it does. Clubs would kill to have the aura of SJP, Anfield, Old Trafford and these grounds actually do win x more points a season than we otherwise would. I can say with confidence we would miss SJP once the buzz would die off after a few years of a shiny, soulless stadium. I saw spurs fans pissed off that they dont have any legend statues outside their stadium and it’s all about hospitality etc. The grass is not greener I assure you. SJP is the best option.
As good as C looks its a complete non starter as it encroaches on to the conservation area of the park and the protected listed victorian band stand and there is no chance in hell the owners would get planning permission. Option b has been done to death so i wont even go into why that wont happen so that leaves A. The most likely on paper but still not straight forward and you have to wonder weather its worth all that time and money for what won't even be that big of an increase to capacity, in any case the fan zone is first on the agenda and with St james park to host Euro2028 games nothing will be happening until that has been and gone, which is still 4 years away, aside from probably the increase in safe standing areas and thats about it, sadly.
Build option c but please dont copy stadiums like city,arsenal etc.i hate bowl Stadiums.nufc forever
Let's destroy a stadium/home from the end of the 19th century
You have completely lost it.....
we need to increase and renew SJP
What they should do is chuck the Freemen in jail and give their cows to McDonalds to turn into burgers.
Then, build a new stadium complex on the Town Moor. Currently, it's not an area of beauty - it's just a massive muddy field.
It's right near the town centre, and it would alleviate the horrendous traffic congestion directly outside of Newcastle's major hospital and A&E department on match days.
Rather than an 80000 seater I think they’ll go more for 65 range and big on the corporate. That’s where you make the money . Not squeezing every last sqm with seats
I like lezars park stadium name
proper Geordie
What is a proppa Geordie.
Plan C - 80000
Matty man seriously you need to distance yourself with Adam P he's a monumental helmet, theres something not right with him. He's a proper oddball and a lot of Toon fans hate him. You don't need him coz your channel is doing great. Get rid mate
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Not this again
Move on mate. Don't live in the past.
No 1 knows what's going to happen..it will be alot of years down the line when anything will start happening with the stadium..its all just click bait
how many times are people going to agree with option C , you can t build on that part of Leaze s park, we don t need an 80 000 seater stadium , 65000 and more hospitality bring s in more money than 80, the East stand can be developed better than it it already is and made to look nicer,
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Only SJP ,B
Way to small