Here in Washington State, mining used to be widespread. Now it has been almost completely wiped out. Mostly through relentless legal pressure to preserve water quality around the streams of water. Our last gold mine (Buckhorn Mountain) was slapped with a massive lawsuit. So now we live in a state choke full of mineral resources but made impossible to exploit. Because we still need metals to be mined, effectively we are exporting our pollution to less regarding countries like China, instead of allowing mining and containing pollution to reasonable levels.
I absolutely agree, and the products from other countries are very substandard. If we were cut of by China, we would be in the stone age within 1 year, many would die, very scary and sad.
Now we see why most of these are "abandoned"...The start up cost to output ratio can vary on the economy, and not be close to the current spot price...One would think the two would be directly correlated, but the comex is rigged.
@@brentfarvors192 comex rigged? You bet your boots it is, a lot of games played n those that play it never end up in Jail....Nutting ever changes.......very sad n dishonest!
Hi Justin , gotta ask if you own this mine .....me and Slim can't wait to see some blasting , hope you guys find a great pocket of that Shiney ...nice looking Powder mags , ATF must love them .... is that rough cut lumber and did you guys Treat the Lumber first ?
Safety certainly comes at a monetary cost but it's great to see you're doing things right. Your mine could end up being very much intact in some future mine explorer's tour 150 years from now.
Certainly the East Section of the mine, barring any serious earthquakes, could hold up for 50 without further work (if they were to walk away *now*). The West Section not so much given what he's said about the geology in that part. They're timbering the holy hell outta that place but with the water intrusion that'll reduce the lifespan of the wood.
It’s for a good cause. Those old-time miners had shockingly high death and injury rates from accidents, and many of them died agonizing, painful deaths from silicosis caused by inhaling rock dust.
"When all else fails- brute force and ignorance!" Love it! Hell, I've lived it. Very little in mining is easy. Really goes to show just how much labor goes into the heavily-timbered mines we explore, and why conventional mining is less common now. Our biggest local underground mine is gradually preparing for a restart, and us small-time guys are plodding (and plotting) along with putting one or two rubber-tire mines back in production too. It's not a fast process.
Are the x boxes protected from lightning? 🧨⚡💥 On the reducers I would have put the bolts the other way so the heads of the bolts were inside and the nuts are on the outside. If a nut comes loose inside that fan blower vent. Oops 😬 With the nuts outside a quick inspection with a wrench can easily tighten the lose nut.
I like the idea of being able to see the loose nuts and dealing with them on the outside rather than hoping they don't become something ballistic on the inside!!
Have you been underground in the mine during an earthquake? My partner Mark and I were in our mine above Canyon City, Ore.when a 4.2 quake hit.We stood up and backed up against the ribs. We were about 400 ft. in the tunnel at the time. Our tunnel turned into a fog of mine dust. Timbers creaked and groaned and there was a rock slide above us but we made it out safe.
Looks like your doing things by the number during this mine restoration. My short career in mining was only open pit mines but it was an interesting job. I ran washing plants, drove trucks and even blasted. Because this was a small operation we would drill and load holes with explosives ourselves. If I remember correctly we would drill 75- 150 holes twenty feet or so deep. Then place 750 pounds of explosives in each hole and then back fill. We would then set the whole works off at lunch hour and then resume drilling again. After I went back to college I would sweat out red ore from my pores on to the sheets for a good three months. I needed to change twice before I could walk into our house. Now days this mine is filled with three hundred feet of water and is surrounded by bike trails. The concrete foundations of the washing plant crushers were retained as they look like some modern art work sticking 30 feet in the air. But in my youth I stood near the top of these foundation while ore was being directed into the top. I also remember the night that the remaining timbers from an old test shaft were dumped into a ore pocket. These timbers dated from 1860 and were sunk two years after Minnesota became a state. This ore body was discovered by a state geologist who brought a small boat up the Mississippi River to a small tributary to the base of a Rapids where this mine was located. There still is a small area where this first ore body that was first discovered comes to the surface. It is unmarked so most people would just walk by it as they make their way along the River and Rapids. Now days the dam on the top of the Rapids has been rebuilt and the power house at the base of the Rapids has also been completely rebuilt and has a new generator. In college my major was biology but I decided to take a course in geology. The first day of class my instructor offered a “A” to anyone who could answer one question about ground water aquifers. I raised my hand right away but was the last person he selected to answer the question. That was the easiest “A” I ever got. He and I became friends and I decided to take a whole year of geology with him. I guess I should have told him that I work several summers as a hydrographer for the US geological survey and did extensive ground water and surface water measurements. Lol
My grandfather installed supports but instead of cut timbers they used logs in an old iron mine. Some photos I’ve seen it took four or six guys to manhandle each one. This was back in the 20’s-50’s hard work.
You really have to be a jack of all trades to be a miner it seems. Carpenter, plumber, blacksmith, rigger, demolition expert, geologist. All plus fit and tough as nails.
I can't believe the dollars and man hours your sinking into this mine! I'm guessing that you think the pay day will be worth it but I'd like to know a lot more about your reasoning behind it and like was asked a bit earlier how you found it and WHY are you doing it? PS: my fav video series on youtube is you guy's reopening this mine so enjoyable!!
Can't say for sure, but I would accurately predict it was because it was still a productive vein (2+ OPT), when it was shut down...? The "reasoning" is the same as any other buisness venture; He predicts the cost of gold will go up, the output will remain high, and make a profit on their operation...
The never ending river you all are working in seems stronger then last time. I keep expecting it to slow down but I guess not. Thanks for the update!👍😎👍
I noticed that as well, to me it would be a bit disconcerting, but I'm not the one with background knowledge on the wheres & whys here. Hope it it doesn't become inhibiting later.
I will hold a kind thought that all the pay is on the east side as well, Justin. You guys are working your tails off up there, I hope you find lots of what you are looking for. Really enjoy these videos.
I've loved watching your videos for a while. Last weekend I went and toured a disused coal mine in Wales and it was just an awesome experience. Wouldn't have happened if I hadn't found your channel - thanks for inspiring a new interest for me!!
Keep on being focused everyone. It’s long ,tedious but well worth it. Not many set out to do this,which makes it even more phenomenal 🙌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 #endgoals #goals
Not always "worth it"; In fact, %75-80 of miners never turn a profit...Let's put it this way: The original claim holders didn't abandon a productive mine on purpose! The cost of getting it out, was more than it was worth on the market...
@@brentfarvors192 you have got it right. I was thinking from a hobby perspective as well but more do from a historical point of view,I think it’s great. I trust them in the project,doing it all themselves and their evaluations,must surely have been calculated in their favour? I imagine we don’t know all the details mind… 👍
What makes it earthquake prone is the same reason there are minerals there. It's a double edge sword. Any estimates on how long till you'll be able to start working the mine, or how much financial investment there will be before any mining can start?
For those people that go to GYMS this is what is called WORK . LOVE the way you explain what is being done in your mine way before any ore comes out ⛏️ thank you
You were talking about the troubles getting the booster stand in and I was *just* about to comment about finding/making a track dolly when hey, that's what the booster fan is on :) Too quick for my own good sometimes.
For your air Handling system. Looks like you're using metal pipe ducts, What are the benefits of metal over the yellow fex toob How much air are you pushing? How far back into the mine? How much electricity does it use?
Johnathan, the ridged pipe flows probably 40 percent better than the flex duct does, due to the fact that it's smooth walled compared to all the restrictions caused by the support coiled steel/aluminum, and the intrusion of the canvas lining into the airstream. Thus it reduces the actual area of free flowing space that the spiral duct work gives you, thus it increases the load on your supply fans, by increasing the static pressure of the ductwork system in order to try and meet required CFM's that I'm sure the safety nazi's have given them per life safety standards. Additionally if all the joints where the spiral pipe is joined were sealed with a quality sealer that's water proof, the air supply would be a large percentage better due to less air leakage. Which cost them a substantial amount of the air being supplied by the fans. Had it been sealed, the main air handler would surely have been sufficient enough to supply the required CFM's needed. But that's even more labor intensive to the point that another crew would be necessary to maintain a time schedule if in fact they have a hard date set to be in production. Which I'm sure is set for monetary reasons, more so than just to satisfy someone's expectations. As for power, I believe they're on a gen set that's providing single phase power, your standard 120 volts, and 3 phase power. The 3 phase power is 220 volts, 240 volts 277 volts up to 440 volts, and is more cost efficient than the low voltage side, because you get more horsepower for your fans, and other equipment at a much lower amperage than you do from the 120 volt single phase power. I believe that covers your questions, and then some on top for good measure. That's knowledge gained from over 40 years in heavy commercial industrial HVAC just so you know I'm not just making noises to hear myself make noise in public. That's best I can do, and I'm sure a engineer can confuse the issues if given a chance, but that's layman's terms for everyone's understanding as best as I can break it down for ya'll.
You Just had to Vent didn't You !!, Jeff Said there be Day's like This he was Right!!, Who Needs Gym When Your Gold Miner !!!; ) Thank's for Sharing!!!; )
Years from now when we're all just a note in history somewhere, another explorer will come across this mine & talk about the lag bolts these miners used way back in 2021 to hold the steel tracks to wooden ties when the current system is a self laying 3D printer that builds track while you sleep.
Nah, it pays off if you find good gold...%75 of gold mines go belly up from a prospect not producing expected returns on investment...It's why so many of these mines are "abandoned"...Not trying to discourage anyone, but, it's just the facts!
@@brentfarvors192 that's because they aren't in the right places with enough knowledge. You would be surprised the amount of gold I have pulled out of mines, and I make a great living mining gold.
@@nhragold1922 Hence, my %80/%20 reference..."I once rolled 18 points in a row while shooting craps..." "I married my HS sweet heart, and my life is perfect..." For every one of YOU, there are 8 others with a totally opposite experience..."You just need knowledge, man; I sold cocaine for 20 YEARS without getting caught..." Well, not me obviously, but you get the point! Using his prospect for example; Those loaders alone are $300.000 new. God knows how much when leasing them...That means 10 ounces per month as a bare minimum for operation expenses...If it takes them 3 months to start processing ore, they are already in the hole...
Doing a great job! On your vent piping, try a Milwaukee heat gun on the flex tubing it gets soft enough to stretch it. Do it on a short piece before you carry it in and you'll be happy with the results👍 good call adding more sets and leaving the old ones in place. Looks like opening up the piss drains is doing the job. It's a lot lower since the last video! Can't wait to hear, " fire in the hole!"
Best and most interesting videos on TH-cam by a long way. As a carpenter think it would be my dream job working there. It would be brilliant to know some more of the back story why you chose that mine how come it was abandoned have you had surveys done etc. Really look forward to your videos each week thanks for sharing 👍🏴
id like to know how pure is the water flowing out the mine cause it sure looks refreshing maybe you could build a collector of sorts to repurpose the water for drinking or cleaning and i would love to quit my job and move to you guys and help 24/7 with that mine
I like your mine Videos. It Shows the hard work that you all together do to bring the mine back to life and safe for All of you Thank you for this Look behind the scenes I hope you have a long financhial breath to bring the mine back to live and the ore out Stay safe and in German Glück Auf To All of you Greetings Frank Galetzka
Hell, with water flowing, the feds. will declare it "navigable" water, and swoop in like they did to farmers with small ponds !!! And claim it as theirs !! LOL !! Laughing, but it's not really funny when it actually happens.
@@Outlawstar0198 They can'r be trusted and will look for anything to shut you down while smiling and agreeing with you all along. I've been there and suffered from their back stabbing.
Wonderful ground you've got there in some sections - very ordinary indeed and heaps ground support with the timbers and toms to keep it stable . Nice fresh water flow hope you have a usable sump and pump system to assist with watering down the dirt after firing before mucking out the dirt into the ore cart/s. Hope you guys have a good return airway and exhaust vent rise to assist with clearing of smoke and fumes after firing a heading . Best of success to everyone, take care , stay safe best health and wishes for the entire crew / team . Great video fellas, regards from the western Australian goldfields.
they might not mine this season, but next season they will be ready. iam really glad to see, you guys doing the rehab the right way, instead of doing shortcuts here and there and i was nice to see the quartz also. iam cherting on you guys to make it. also glad to see the powder storages being made. one question though, what about the rock crucher/ball mill setup?
Love this series man! Just quit apologizing for not mining yet. All of what you guys are doing is fascinating for many of us that's never been around mining, and not sure of any others documenting it quite like this. I say show more of the process and make the vids longer...25-35 minutes is the magic range (as long as you don't piss off your buddys!)👍
Just a humble suggestion for the flex pipe to ridgid pipe, grab a set of hvac pipe crimpers. Use them to reduce the diameter and tape the crimp to reduce catching on.
The main product from this mine is water. Once they start blasting, the main product will be rocks. Amongst all of that, I think that they are hoping to find some gold.
Surface copper for me for now, and some underground assessment on the weekends. I hope to be back to working underground within the next six months or so.
dumb question: in the series did @TRV discuss the backstory of how they found the mine and why they decided to resurrect it? It's like covered in the series I just can't recall if there's been a FAQ/Q&A.
Here's just a Random thought, once you have played this Mine out you should convert it into an underground brewery/distillery and use the marketing ploy of "Made with Mountain Spring Goldmine Water!!!" 🤠👍
My Grandfather on my dad's side was a West Virginia coal miner. My mother was from a small farm in Maine. Between a WVA hillbilly and a Mainer, you'll be hard pressed to find a tougher breed. I know, when they fought (constantly) it was like Godzilla movie I got My PTSD at home. I think the phrase is misquoted. It should be " Brute force and stubbornness.. " God bless you all
Like Jeff said I would love to see some blasting videos. This is just really interesting to see!!!! Please do more of these videos with this mine if possible.
Progress is made, but like you said it is hard work and having the earth shaking a bit now and then is not very pleasing with old rotten timber in a mine, winter is coming in a wet mine, that will be thermo clothing time i guess.
It good to see progress again. I hope those semi rigid bags will work out for you. The blast boxes look good! I think you need that extra power for the venting. Because with the semi rigid pipe you get a lot more resistance to the air flow. I dont know what it will do to your eventual air flow. But it will have an impact on it for sure. I guess it is wait and see. Have you already run examples of the pay dirt, or did some mining for nuggets? The gold could be on the west side too. Im not a geologist, and ive only read some books on the topic. With the loose rocks, they say that with normal regular tunnels, you want to grout the rocks overhead together so they stay in place, and wont come down as easily when you tunnel through loose rocks. It is however one of the hardest situations in tunneling. Also, you dont know for how long that loose rock situation will go on without sampling. It could be just a couple of yards, to 10s of yards, to 100s of yards of loose rocks. Also, on the sides of mountains, with not too much top cover overhead, the loose rock situation is common. So the further you go into the mountain, the more stable to rock usually. There are situations where the loose rock are found vertical cavities in the middle of the mountain. With the loose rocks you need a lot of timbering to keep everything up, because the forces cant go through the walls because it is not a solid mass, but loose rocks... So that is why grouting is done to mitigate the forces that these stacked rocks produce. To make one solid mass. So i guess your best bet is to first start looking east, because the west would be an expensive ordeal and you need to find a lot of gold to make up for the cost of getting it out. Greetings, Jeff
Nice solid supports there, no expense spared I am glad to see, safety is paramount for working in there. How much more work is needed to get the haulage adit sorted before mining starts once more?
At 1658, you mention the section is "slabby", could you get some clearance using a scaling bar, or is the rib just too fractured? Great video, real informative and a great tour. I love the adventure. Will you guys be able to improve the drainage after you have the major work done? Thanks for a terrific presentation - love the explosive storage !!
Here in Washington State, mining used to be widespread. Now it has been almost completely wiped out. Mostly through relentless legal pressure to preserve water quality around the streams of water. Our last gold mine (Buckhorn Mountain) was slapped with a massive lawsuit. So now we live in a state choke full of mineral resources but made impossible to exploit. Because we still need metals to be mined, effectively we are exporting our pollution to less regarding countries like China, instead of allowing mining and containing pollution to reasonable levels.
Too many Liberal cocksuckers out there.
I absolutely agree, and the products from other countries are very substandard. If we were cut of by China, we would be in the stone age within 1 year, many would die, very scary and sad.
Anyone who feeds squirrels deserves good fortune!
May the Gods smile on you!
I'm glad you feel that way. Hopefully, they will be set for the rough winter descending upon them now given how much we gave them over the summer!
The amount of water running though that mine is mind blowing….to me anyway
You could bottle it as sparkling clean mountain gold mine water ! LOL !!!
It never ceases to amaze me how much mine work does not involve "mining".
I guess it's like painting a car, 90% prep. and 10% painting !
Now we see why most of these are "abandoned"...The start up cost to output ratio can vary on the economy, and not be close to the current spot price...One would think the two would be directly correlated, but the comex is rigged.
99.9+% of mining is separating the not gold from the gold
@@brentfarvors192 comex rigged? You bet your boots it is, a lot of games played n those that play it never end up in Jail....Nutting ever changes.......very sad n dishonest!
Hi Justin , gotta ask if you own this mine .....me and Slim can't wait to see some blasting , hope you guys find a great pocket of that Shiney ...nice looking Powder mags , ATF must love them .... is that rough cut lumber and did you guys Treat the Lumber first ?
I was going to ask if they had to spray fire retardant on the mag, walls.
We ALL want to know. ;)
That’s a lot of ellipses
Jeff is panting. Can’t blame him. Ugh. East coast sucks
Safety certainly comes at a monetary cost but it's great to see you're doing things right. Your mine could end up being very much intact in some future mine explorer's tour 150 years from now.
Certainly the East Section of the mine, barring any serious earthquakes, could hold up for 50 without further work (if they were to walk away *now*). The West Section not so much given what he's said about the geology in that part. They're timbering the holy hell outta that place but with the water intrusion that'll reduce the lifespan of the wood.
It’s for a good cause. Those old-time miners had shockingly high death and injury rates from accidents, and many of them died agonizing, painful deaths from silicosis caused by inhaling rock dust.
"When all else fails- brute force and ignorance!"
Love it! Hell, I've lived it. Very little in mining is easy. Really goes to show just how much labor goes into the heavily-timbered mines we explore, and why conventional mining is less common now.
Our biggest local underground mine is gradually preparing for a restart, and us small-time guys are plodding (and plotting) along with putting one or two rubber-tire mines back in production too. It's not a fast process.
What is a rubber tire mine?? Does that mean that they are big enough to drive a truck in??
@@gearbender427 Exactly! Small LHDs and trucks.
Are the x boxes protected from lightning? 🧨⚡💥
On the reducers I would have put the bolts the other way so the heads of the bolts were inside and the nuts are on the outside. If a nut comes loose inside that fan blower vent.
Oops 😬
With the nuts outside a quick inspection with a wrench can easily tighten the lose nut.
I was thinking riveting them so there wouldn't be anything to come loose
I like the idea of being able to see the loose nuts and dealing with them on the outside rather than hoping they don't become something ballistic on the inside!!
Have you been underground in the mine during an earthquake? My partner Mark and I were in our mine above Canyon City, Ore.when a 4.2 quake hit.We stood up and backed up against the ribs. We were about 400 ft. in the tunnel at the time. Our tunnel turned into a fog of mine dust. Timbers creaked and groaned and there was a rock slide above us but we made it out safe.
No thanks. Glad you got out good
That sounds intense I can’t imagine the adrenaline rush haha!
Just assumed you were still trapped down there and had good wifi repeaters.
Looks like your doing things by the number during this mine restoration.
My short career in mining was only open pit mines but it was an interesting job. I ran washing plants, drove trucks and even blasted. Because this was a small operation we would drill and load holes with explosives ourselves. If I remember correctly we would drill 75- 150 holes twenty feet or so deep. Then place 750 pounds of explosives in each hole and then back fill. We would then set the whole works off at lunch hour and then resume drilling again. After I went back to college I would sweat out red ore from my pores on to the sheets for a good three months. I needed to change twice before I could walk into our house. Now days this mine is filled with three hundred feet of water and is surrounded by bike trails. The concrete foundations of the washing plant crushers were retained as they look like some modern art work sticking 30 feet in the air. But in my youth I stood near the top of these foundation while ore was being directed into the top. I also remember the night that the remaining timbers from an old test shaft were dumped into a ore pocket. These timbers dated from 1860 and were sunk two years after Minnesota became a state. This ore body was discovered by a state geologist who brought a small boat up the Mississippi River to a small tributary to the base of a Rapids where this mine was located. There still is a small area where this first ore body that was first discovered comes to the surface. It is unmarked so most people would just walk by it as they make their way along the River and Rapids.
Now days the dam on the top of the Rapids has been rebuilt and the power house at the base of the Rapids has also been completely rebuilt and has a new generator.
In college my major was biology but I decided to take a course in geology. The first day of class my instructor offered a “A” to anyone who could answer one question about ground water aquifers. I raised my hand right away but was the last person he selected to answer the question. That was the easiest “A” I ever got. He and I became friends and I decided to take a whole year of geology with him. I guess I should have told him that I work several summers as a hydrographer for the US geological survey and did extensive ground water and surface water measurements. Lol
My grandfather installed supports but instead of cut timbers they used logs in an old iron mine. Some photos I’ve seen it took four or six guys to manhandle each one. This was back in the 20’s-50’s hard work.
And the boomers say this generation doesn't know what hard work is. Love the vids brother
You really have to be a jack of all trades to be a miner it seems. Carpenter, plumber, blacksmith, rigger, demolition expert, geologist. All plus fit and tough as nails.
I can't believe the dollars and man hours your sinking into this mine! I'm guessing that you think the pay day will be worth it but I'd like to know a lot more about your reasoning behind it and like was asked a bit earlier how you found it and WHY are you doing it? PS: my fav video series on youtube is you guy's reopening this mine so enjoyable!!
Yes the how and why , and what is the history of this mine also.
Can't say for sure, but I would accurately predict it was because it was still a productive vein (2+ OPT), when it was shut down...? The "reasoning" is the same as any other buisness venture; He predicts the cost of gold will go up, the output will remain high, and make a profit on their operation...
Sweet update on the mine Justin. Thanks
I think that's what a miner qualifies as... is somebody who can improvise
The never ending river you all are working in seems stronger then last time. I keep expecting it to slow down but I guess not. Thanks for the update!👍😎👍
I noticed that as well, to me it would be a bit disconcerting, but I'm not the one with background knowledge on the wheres & whys here. Hope it it doesn't become inhibiting later.
I really like this series bringing this old mine back to life!
just a thought...if possible...a map layout of the workings would help us get a perspective of this mine...thanks
It would be interesting to see a 3D x-section of the topography over the mine.
Good afternoon from Southeast South Dakota
Great going Justin. This series is TV worthy mate! Please keep them coming and stay safe in there
I will hold a kind thought that all the pay is on the east side as well, Justin. You guys are working your tails off up there, I hope you find lots of what you are looking for. Really enjoy these videos.
I've loved watching your videos for a while. Last weekend I went and toured a disused coal mine in Wales and it was just an awesome experience. Wouldn't have happened if I hadn't found your channel - thanks for inspiring a new interest for me!!
Oh nice, what mine did you go to?
Excellent video.thanks.
very interesting-look forward to next installment!!!!!
I can't imagine doing this work via carbide 150 years ago. Hats off to you boys for keeping it alive for many more years.
I can definitely appreciate he amount of effort time and money put into this hello from Australia opal miner here.
Hope that in the next video you will show ua the big blower working and how loud it is, great vids, thank you for taking the time to make them.
Is it weird that I'm more interested in maintance and small technical things rather than blowing up stuff in mine?
Yeah, you see explosions so often on TV, but stuff like building tunnel is something you never see.
Thanks for the videos man really injoy them. Man thst looks like some hard work and being wet all the time.
Keep on being focused everyone. It’s long ,tedious but well worth it. Not many set out to do this,which makes it even more phenomenal 🙌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
#endgoals #goals
Not always "worth it"; In fact, %75-80 of miners never turn a profit...Let's put it this way: The original claim holders didn't abandon a productive mine on purpose! The cost of getting it out, was more than it was worth on the market...
@@brentfarvors192 you have got it right.
I was thinking from a hobby perspective as well but more do from a historical point of view,I think it’s great. I trust them in the project,doing it all themselves and their evaluations,must surely have been calculated in their favour? I imagine we don’t know all the details mind… 👍
What makes it earthquake prone is the same reason there are minerals there. It's a double edge sword. Any estimates on how long till you'll be able to start working the mine, or how much financial investment there will be before any mining can start?
Your first sentence is an excellent point. Hadn't thought of it that way, but is how geology works to.
Work, work, and more work. I wouldn't last a day working in a mine... Fun and educational watching you guys do it, though... Great series!
Thank you
Great video young man.
Still enjoy your videos. Helps me especially recovering from knee surgery.
I realize this is a lot of work for you and your crew but for your viewers,these videos are amazing and exciting to watch. More, more, more! Thanks.
I hope you bought the timber’s a while back. Lumber prices are outrageous.
Yep, for the price of the timber you could buy a portable sawmill and cut your own at half the price !!
@@loyalkuhn5778 And that thought might be entertained if they good for forest lumber nearby?
You guys are really making progress! Great Job Justin and Crew! Thanks for bringing us along!
For those people that go to GYMS this is what is called WORK . LOVE the way you explain what is being done in your mine way before any ore comes out ⛏️ thank you
Who needs a gym, just become a miner...
The support timbers look like they will carry the loads with ease.
GOLD don't give up her own without a fight Gentlemen, it's looking great! Thank you!
You were talking about the troubles getting the booster stand in and I was *just* about to comment about finding/making a track dolly when hey, that's what the booster fan is on :) Too quick for my own good sometimes.
Who needs a gym? Just be a miner! Great work guys! Enjoy the work out. The only time in the week when i actually grunt.
Doing a great job I wish I had a small mine
For your air Handling system.
Looks like you're using metal pipe ducts,
What are the benefits of metal over the yellow fex toob
How much air are you pushing?
How far back into the mine?
How much electricity does it use?
Johnathan, the ridged pipe flows probably 40 percent better than the flex duct does, due to the fact that it's smooth walled compared to all the restrictions caused by the support coiled steel/aluminum, and the intrusion of the canvas lining into the airstream.
Thus it reduces the actual area of free flowing space that the spiral duct work gives you, thus it increases the load on your supply fans, by increasing the static pressure of the ductwork system in order to try and meet required CFM's that I'm sure the safety nazi's have given them per life safety standards.
Additionally if all the joints where the spiral pipe is joined were sealed with a quality sealer that's water proof, the air supply would be a large percentage better due to less air leakage.
Which cost them a substantial amount of the air being supplied by the fans.
Had it been sealed, the main air handler would surely have been sufficient enough to supply the required CFM's needed.
But that's even more labor intensive to the point that another crew would be necessary to maintain a time schedule if in fact they have a hard date set to be in production.
Which I'm sure is set for monetary reasons, more so than just to satisfy someone's expectations.
As for power, I believe they're on a gen set that's providing single phase power, your standard 120 volts, and 3 phase power.
The 3 phase power is 220 volts, 240 volts 277 volts up to 440 volts, and is more cost efficient than the low voltage side, because you get more horsepower for your fans, and other equipment at a much lower amperage than you do from the 120 volt single phase power.
I believe that covers your questions, and then some on top for good measure.
That's knowledge gained from over 40 years in heavy commercial industrial HVAC just so you know I'm not just making noises to hear myself make noise in public.
That's best I can do, and I'm sure a engineer can confuse the issues if given a chance, but that's layman's terms for everyone's understanding as best as I can break it down for ya'll.
I Cant wait for the blasting to happen. Be sure you have a couple of disposable Go Pros.
this is such a cool project to follow...thank you for sharing your experience and creating these videos...feels like we are there with you :)
Better than watching the tv show "gold rush", no drama, just information, thumbs up to you !!
@@gearbender427 totally agree, way better than that fake tv crap
I second that motion!!!
Really enjoying these videos showing the progress. Also super excited to see when you guys start pulling ore from the mine! Great videos!
Could you make a video on how you manage to finance the re-opening of this mine?
If I had to venture a guess I would say it is through the greed of the volunteers! 😁
Brilliant work keep safe and well
I applaud men who create money from nothing. Good work boys.
You Just had to Vent didn't You !!, Jeff Said there be Day's like This he was Right!!, Who Needs Gym When Your Gold Miner !!!; ) Thank's for Sharing!!!; )
Years from now when we're all just a note in history somewhere, another explorer will come across this mine & talk about the lag bolts these miners used way back in 2021 to hold the steel tracks to wooden ties when the current system is a self laying 3D printer that builds track while you sleep.
Shit ton of work guys!
Always amazes me how much equipment is left in old mines. Thanks
Mining definitely isn't easy! It sure pays off if you put in the effort
Nah, it pays off if you find good gold...%75 of gold mines go belly up from a prospect not producing expected returns on investment...It's why so many of these mines are "abandoned"...Not trying to discourage anyone, but, it's just the facts!
@@brentfarvors192 that's because they aren't in the right places with enough knowledge. You would be surprised the amount of gold I have pulled out of mines, and I make a great living mining gold.
@@nhragold1922 Hence, my %80/%20 reference..."I once rolled 18 points in a row while shooting craps..." "I married my HS sweet heart, and my life is perfect..." For every one of YOU, there are 8 others with a totally opposite experience..."You just need knowledge, man; I sold cocaine for 20 YEARS without getting caught..." Well, not me obviously, but you get the point! Using his prospect for example; Those loaders alone are $300.000 new. God knows how much when leasing them...That means 10 ounces per month as a bare minimum for operation expenses...If it takes them 3 months to start processing ore, they are already in the hole...
Doing a great job! On your vent piping, try a Milwaukee heat gun on the flex tubing it gets soft enough to stretch it. Do it on a short piece before you carry it in and you'll be happy with the results👍 good call adding more sets and leaving the old ones in place. Looks like opening up the piss drains is doing the job. It's a lot lower since the last video! Can't wait to hear, " fire in the hole!"
@1:52 the Delaware and Hudson Railroad used lag bolts the size of spikes.
Nice seeing new timber sets
If you guys ever needed a hand I would love to volunteer. How close are you all to drilling and going after ore?
I'm insane lol but love being so every day.
Awesome I could do it
So how did you guys decide on bringing this mine back to life??
probably contains gold. the cost to production value is better now than it was when mines across the country where shut down in the 70s.
Best and most interesting videos on TH-cam by a long way. As a carpenter think it would be my dream job working there. It would be brilliant to know some more of the back story why you chose that mine how come it was abandoned have you had surveys done etc. Really look forward to your videos each week thanks for sharing 👍🏴
Yes yes and yes to the above questions, it would fascinating !!
Image he will happily answer that the day he finds a hot vein...I image the reason "why", is because it still has good gold in it...Somewhere...
Amazing works guys. Hope to god you can make some money out of the hard work. Sure as hell won't be for lack of trying !!! Good luck 🤞
id like to know how pure is the water flowing out the mine cause it sure looks refreshing maybe you could build a collector of sorts to repurpose the water for drinking or cleaning and i would love to quit my job and move to you guys and help 24/7 with that mine
I like your mine Videos.
It Shows the hard work that you all together do to bring the mine back to life and safe for All of you
Thank you for this Look behind the scenes
I hope you have a long financhial breath to bring the mine back to live and the ore out
Stay safe and in German Glück Auf
To All of you
Greetings Frank Galetzka
"DO NOT" allow the Forest Service inside your tunnel. It is out of their jurisdiction.
Was there worry about them attempting to enter the tunnel/mine?
Hell, with water flowing, the feds. will declare it "navigable" water, and swoop in like they did to farmers with small ponds !!! And claim it as theirs !! LOL !! Laughing, but it's not really funny when it actually happens.
@@Outlawstar0198 They can'r be trusted and will look for anything to shut you down while smiling and agreeing with you all along. I've been there and suffered from their back stabbing.
If you need a camp cook for your mining operation I am available to feed you all.
Wonderful ground you've got there in some sections - very ordinary indeed and heaps ground support with the timbers and toms to keep it stable . Nice fresh water flow hope you have a usable sump and pump system to assist with watering down the dirt after firing before mucking out the dirt into the ore cart/s. Hope you guys have a good return airway and exhaust vent rise to assist with clearing of smoke and fumes after firing a heading . Best of success to everyone, take care , stay safe best health and wishes for the entire crew / team . Great video fellas, regards from the western Australian goldfields.
Thank you. Yes, we have the sump and pump for watering down after blasting and the ventilation.
they might not mine this season, but next season they will be ready. iam really glad to see, you guys doing the rehab the right way, instead of doing shortcuts here and there and i was nice to see the quartz also. iam cherting on you guys to make it. also glad to see the powder storages being made. one question though, what about the rock crucher/ball mill setup?
Lag bolts aren't so bad, you don't get basted with mud hammering them in.
Love this series man! Just quit apologizing for not mining yet. All of what you guys are doing is fascinating for many of us that's never been around mining, and not sure of any others documenting it quite like this. I say show more of the process and make the vids longer...25-35 minutes is the magic range (as long as you don't piss off your buddys!)👍
Yeah wouldn't want to be in there during a shaker ! Just noticed 2 white squirrels in neighbors yard , easy to spot till winter
Are the timbers green treated. Are you going to mine quartz. To bad you couldn't of mounted wheels to the blower stand and push it in
Welding a bead or some small tublar rod on the outer part of the mine truck might help keep her on track.
Just a humble suggestion for the flex pipe to ridgid pipe, grab a set of hvac pipe crimpers. Use them to reduce the diameter and tape the crimp to reduce catching on.
Looking real sharp. Good luck looking for earths blessings.
I may have just missed this, but what is the main product from this mine? Once again, thank you for sharing the journey!
The main product from this mine is water. Once they start blasting, the main product will be rocks.
Amongst all of that, I think that they are hoping to find some gold.
Not many people can say they work an underground mine operation these days. At least in America
Surface copper for me for now, and some underground assessment on the weekends. I hope to be back to working underground within the next six months or so.
dumb question: in the series did @TRV discuss the backstory of how they found the mine and why they decided to resurrect it? It's like covered in the series I just can't recall if there's been a FAQ/Q&A.
Yep!! I'd like to know as well!
We need a livestream so that we can bombard Justin with all of the questions that we have!
It was my understanding that there was a fire in the mine shortly before World War II.
Most of the bad shit comes from the west/left side.
Seems to be a theme.
Anyway…
Let’s go, Brandon!
Here's just a Random thought, once you have played this Mine out you should convert it into an underground brewery/distillery and use the marketing ploy of "Made with Mountain Spring Goldmine Water!!!" 🤠👍
Use flexaust FSX-5 with cuffed ends for your flex ducting. It slips over rigid duct and you can connect them together. We use it at work
My Grandfather on my dad's side was a West Virginia coal miner. My mother was from a small farm in Maine. Between a WVA hillbilly and a Mainer, you'll be hard pressed to find a tougher breed. I know, when they fought (constantly) it was like Godzilla movie I got My PTSD at home. I think the phrase is misquoted. It should be " Brute force and stubbornness.. " God bless you all
Love watching the progress. This is awesome!
Like Jeff said I would love to see some blasting videos. This is just really interesting to see!!!! Please do more of these videos with this mine if possible.
Looking good man! Can't wait to see more! 👍👍
Progress is made, but like you said it is hard work and having the earth shaking a bit now and then is not very pleasing with old rotten timber in a mine, winter is coming in a wet mine, that will be thermo clothing time i guess.
You guys really made some great progress on the mine thank you for sharing and the video turned out really well !
Great going on the mine, thanks for taking the time to make the video
Keep it up. I am still loving these!
Love seeing the new updates can't wait until you start mining great job 👏.
It good to see progress again. I hope those semi rigid bags will work out for you.
The blast boxes look good!
I think you need that extra power for the venting. Because with the semi rigid pipe you get a lot more resistance to the air flow. I dont know what it will do to your eventual air flow. But it will have an impact on it for sure. I guess it is wait and see.
Have you already run examples of the pay dirt, or did some mining for nuggets?
The gold could be on the west side too. Im not a geologist, and ive only read some books on the topic. With the loose rocks, they say that with normal regular tunnels, you want to grout the rocks overhead together so they stay in place, and wont come down as easily when you tunnel through loose rocks. It is however one of the hardest situations in tunneling. Also, you dont know for how long that loose rock situation will go on without sampling. It could be just a couple of yards, to 10s of yards, to 100s of yards of loose rocks. Also, on the sides of mountains, with not too much top cover overhead, the loose rock situation is common. So the further you go into the mountain, the more stable to rock usually. There are situations where the loose rock are found vertical cavities in the middle of the mountain. With the loose rocks you need a lot of timbering to keep everything up, because the forces cant go through the walls because it is not a solid mass, but loose rocks... So that is why grouting is done to mitigate the forces that these stacked rocks produce. To make one solid mass. So i guess your best bet is to first start looking east, because the west would be an expensive ordeal and you need to find a lot of gold to make up for the cost of getting it out.
Greetings,
Jeff
I’ve learned that anyone can fix anything if they’re mad enough.
i would guess that the reason that wagon keeps derailing is because the tread is flat not coned
Nice solid supports there, no expense spared I am glad to see, safety is paramount for working in there. How much more work is needed to get the haulage adit sorted before mining starts once more?
Why do you need so much ventilation? Are you using dynamite andhave to "blow down" the tunnel afterwards?
What kind of ore body is in that mine justin? Are there stopes further in?
At 1658, you mention the section is "slabby", could you get some clearance using a scaling bar, or is the rib just too fractured? Great video, real informative and a great tour. I love the adventure. Will you guys be able to improve the drainage after you have the major work done? Thanks for a terrific presentation - love the explosive storage !!