great video on the blasting cycle my friend ....would like to hear more details about the drill pattern used and the delays . You can solve the swinging level by lighting a match and check for any air current . Can't wait to see the milling operation and a final pour . Also wanted to see you running the eimco 12b .....keep'em coming and hope you are doing ok after all that has happened
Delays on these types of blasts are usually between .08 and 1.2 m/s between shots, they tend to be drilled in groupings of 3 for shafts less than 5 feet wide and groups of 4 if more than 5 feet wide, with one large burn hole in the middle to give the initial opening 'fracturing' blasts a place to go, then as the shots spiral out, they put in more ANFO as 'lofting' agent because this will push the rock further out of the hole. With all of the initial fracture shots, its usually not so important to continue to fracture the outer edges, and also, additional wall and back fracturing is something they like to avoid because it can lead to caveins. ANFO as the final shots tends to peel the rock off the walls that the fracture rounds have already broken up, so this means less concussive force into the walls and back, making the tunnel safer for the miners from then on.
So glad to see this video. I’m rewatching all your videos again. I’ve not found another mine exploring channel who can bring me along and make me feel as if I’m there.
5:57 Used that method all the time when the 12B mucker would derail. That piece of 4x4 would always be close by. Awesome to see you guys busting rock! Sure miss that kind of work. I’m currently running a loader or driving a 40 ton haul truck.
Great job Justin, I also reported 2 people in the comments about porn invites to your viewers. This happens alot with us. They need to be deleted from the channel. Thanks for another blasting update on your mine.
Nice lift on that charge... That will really help when mucking it out, and a good reach on that scaling bar. Either you have seismic activity, or your shaft is haunted. Try hanging a plumb line on a different upright and see if it does it as well. Hang in there - Hugs and Prayers !!!
😴 Yeah, this definitely ISN'T a job for the average state road crew worker! Many of them are accustomed to work days that consist of 80% of the crew standing around smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee, while 2 guys do a little bit of work every now and then. If the job SHOULD take 6 months, they drag it out into a 4-5 year, on & off project. That particular "work ethic" may tend to cause a mining firm to declare bankruptcy in short order!
@@HighlanderNorth1 that's what's called," our tax dollars at rest!!" Something that our whole country, and majority of the government workers from smallest towns, to those elected into the jobs that are supposed to be there working for the citizens of our country. Yet the hours put in don't justify the lack of productivity produced on average per vast numbers of people paid to do whatever position they're there to preform daily. Not saying that this the case for everyone, but the averages bring everyone down because of the slackers versus the few who work to the best of their abilities during their work hours. Shame that it's become this way, but on average most wouldn't survive a week at a regular job that the majority of Americans work at daily, because they would be terminated for lack of productivity period.
As cliche as the meme is, _at 11 seconds in you had me with the word "explosives"_ I love this series and apparently so do many others! If imitation truly is a form of flattery, then you're onto something good. I've noticed a few other channels are also doing this, although Canadian Frank has been working on his for about as long, if not longer, than you all. He also runs a museum, so I think he gets top marks for that. However, I believe he is bringing his on line for public access/tours. Whereas you guys are going for the gold itself. So there will be some obviously differences between the two. I hope things have been treating you well. You've got a lot of people sending prayers your way. And whether you believe in that stuff or not, it shouldn't really matter. I've always viewed people saying that as "I've done something to make them care about me, so I'll do my best not to let them down!"
Great video! I did some exploration geophysics with my professor dad about 30 years ago and he used Tovex water-gel explosive (it's ammonium nitrate with a high-octane fuel added) for putting a pulse of energy into the ground looking for ancient river channels for placer gold. Tovex is contained in plastic tubes, so I always imagined that's what modern ammonium nitrate explosives were - I had no idea you could just blow the stuff into the holes without a container! Learned a bunch from this one - including derailments are part of the 'fun' - good to have you back after all you've been through.
Hey Justin, do you have any videos on details of this mine like the age of it, how your involved in the mine, the original depth and how far you've driven the tunnels ect? So cool to see an old mine being resurrected
Great video Justin! Seismic vibrations is my guess on why the level was moving. Put a mail around the corner of the beam next time you see it moving and see if it moves that direction!
Justin, I am still concerned about you and everything that has been effecting your life and your family’s lives. Just letting you know I had not forgotten your struggles & challenges. I am continuing praying for peace, understanding and comfort for you and your family!
Thanks for the video Justin. Great to hear you again. Hope all is well with you. Even just the water falling in the background of that swinging level must create a tiny localized breeze of some sort. Maybe that constant tiny breeze is all that was needed to get it gently rocking.
Thank you for the update . Good to see you back at the mine and making progress. The mucker is a dangerous vehicle and very fragile in the gearbox . The mucker in the Rammelsbergmine is every time defekt okay it is very old but only in use without any rocks or some heavy load The space is very small to Operate the mucker and without a footrest to stand on very dangerous. The swinging Level is unusual Okay a little breeze of air or the post the Level hang on vibrates or swing and that is not a good sign . Please Touch the Post an feel if its vibrate . But we dont want to think in a bad way it is a small breeze 😀😃🙂 Take care and in German Glück Auf Best wishes to you and the Crew Yours Frank Galetzka
HEY!! come back we miss you! the wife and I love your work and watch it together. it's a high point for our week. Wishing you well. And thanks for everything.
Did the bolts cause the derailment? In the video it appears that the flange hit the bolts and was kicked off the tracks? I think round head carriage bolts then trimmed off at the nut could solve that? I would like to hear the solution 🙂 I hope nobody was hurt? This is a good production, I'm enjoying the adventure of it. Thanks for these.
Good to see your back, and sound to be in good state of mind. Keep your head up, and eye's forward, because things get better with time as we all know, but seem to forget at times. Be safe and well
As far as the level moving, id say its the ground moving… low intensity earthquake or the natural slow collapse, possibly a combination. Very cool. Really makes you appreciate the work that went into a number of these mines.
Glad to see another update video! The level was interesting. The air is moving residually from when the fans were on and convection, possibly helped by the running water... Yes, I have an imagination and really have no idea why the level was swinging😂 Have you tried to light a match and double check for air movement?
Huh, that level is kind of cool, does it always wobble like that? Someone mentioned it's rotating with the earths axis, an experiment called a foucault pendulum, but that can't be since it requires energy for the swinging object to keep moving, in museums they use a little motor to keep the pendulums swinging. I'd hazard a guess that it could be air movement but that level looks relatively heavy and would require a decent amount of air flow to get moving, even with something like a leaky duct nearby. I'd probably give it a strong nudge and see how long until it stops moving or returns to the baseline movement, just as a sort of control variable. Could possibly be an earthquake, my sisters ceiling lamp was swinging during a light earthquake in san francisco that I couldn't feel, but it would have stopped swaying fairly quickly. Something seems to be imparting a bit of energy so it swings though, that's for sure lol.
i can tell you... Take a human, and stuff explosives with another human. It's that simple. back then, death in the mines was normal, and in fact, people died inside the mines, more often then the cowboys shooting outside. Nobady gave shit about safety, get a hard hat, and simple instructions how to do this, get someone who already did it, guide you through it, and youre quolified expert after 2 tries. In fact, they had no machines probobly like muckers, they just hand picked everything, another group hand sieved everything that the first group picked up, and so on... Now as you can see mining can be done with like 7-10 people... 100 years ago, they did it with haundreds.
This has to be one of the hardest jobs on the planet, not to mention dangerous. Too bad the Forest Service can’t make a decision so that you don’t have to move the material twice. 😡🤯 Government red tape. Thank you for videotaping your blasting process. Scary!
Who wouldve thought you would start mining at such an opportune time?? Precious metals are in high demand. I would be really impressed if you turned a profit out of something I believe you intended to be a demonstration! Lol
Simple outflow of water drainage equals air moving as well as natural forces such as low and high pressure weather systems changing. I've been in a few situations where Co2 sumps are fine under high pressure weather and very dicey during low pressure events. You have air flow...
Watching right after part 10. The amount of dust kicked in the air from blasting dust and rock out of the drilling holes looks similar to the dustiest dry mines you've been exploring, and I bet the vacuuming process also aerosolises a good amount of ANFO - would explain the headache your mate was complaining about. If it were me I'd be wearing respiratory protection, but then I'm also smoking a cigarette right as I type this, so to each their own. Turns out the mucker tour I wished for in my comment on your last video ended up happening in this one, so thanks! In other channels, that oscillating level would definitely have led to a sponsored 20 minute video about how this mine is cursed and haunted, complete with pareidolia and pretending to get scared of any shadow or noise. :) Sorry about that nasty loaded ore car derailment and axle snapping, looks rough and expensive. I guess it's part of the job/fun to have to deal with and adapt to unforeseen events like this in a mine. Can't always be enjoying yourself handling explosives and operating machines that might take your arm or leg if you're not careful! Looking forward to your next in this series! Stay safe.
ANFO is Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil. It's wet. Not sure what that stuff you used is, but it's very different to the ANFO we used to use. Love your work. You're living the dream
Got to say i found this ever so intresting to watch and to think bk in the day the miners did the same thing as well so to see u guys do that mine was the best thing ever and so informally :) but the question to that moving Level was very strange indeed .
Interested to see how much progress has been made since this was recorded. Hoping the forest service has approved your waste rock pile location. That level swaying was interesting, maybe it’s so perfectly balanced on the nail and away from the post just enough to swing like a pendulum? That derailment 😬 Hope you’re well, everything considered. ✌️
The level is moving with the wobble of the Earth in its rotation around it's axis. I learned this from an exhibit at the Oregon Museum of Natural History where they attached a plumb bob at the top of very high ceiling above a bed of sand that the plumb lightly traced the shape of the wobble in the sand, after 24 hours it made a complete 360 degree pattern around the center!
So at this point are you actually following a vein, where the rock you are blasting out contains ore, or are you extending a access tunnel to an area where bore holes show more promise for finding Gold? Will this "muck" just be dumped or actually processed? How long after the blast was the level rocking filmed? Maybe there are still reverberations in the ground from the blast, or seismic activity like others have noted?
Light a match and blow it out and check the smoke. Maybe run a plumb bob and see it if sways as well. Regardless. Glad your back. I know summer the slow time for uploads but still good to see a fresh video. Hope everything is going good after all you've been through.
Interesting vid , however I’d like to give you some sage advice from a 38yr professional underground hard rock miner. First off I’d ditch the old non ele caps and switch to snapdets . Non ele’s are so 1980’s and way too expensive having to purchase all those delays . Snaps are the way to go you get 15-16 different delays in one cap assembly and you can ditch the det cord too! More cost effective. Having run many a 12B and other rail muckers and installing miles of rail during my career some words of wisdom ALWAYS KEEP YOUR SLIDES CLEAN ! while mucking get that blowpipe and use it ! This saves you from derailing , allows you to see where the next tie goes ect. If you do derail keep a 3’-4’ timber handy for quick fixes it’s much easier to jump a mucker back on the track with a short timber than using a handy man jack ! You do this by wedging one end of the timber on the floor the other against the front or rear of the 12b depending upon which end derailed and driving the mucker ether forward or back it will push the mucker up high enough to get the wheels up then give her a nudge when she’s over the rail back / forward out from under the timber and she will fall into the rail . Works ever single time ! Finn hoes are a waste of time ! Too expensive and too much work ! Use a blowpipe instead. A blowpipe or “ miners broom” is simpler once you get the hang of the many uses there good for . When it come to drilling your round don’t add any more drill holes than necessary to break the rock into chunks rather than blow everything into powder! Unless your goal is to waste your time mucking ! Chunks are quick to load whereas powdered rock is not ! If your goal is 1 round per shift then disregard my last statement. Also you need to delay / time the lifters better and time them so the muck is heaved more to the right side of the drift ! This lets you muck with the step on the 12b from the get go . This might not be too big a deal since your not timbering your adit / drift . Anyway keep giving her the onion ! Good luck and remember when someone asks you to explain mining tell them “ mining is simple your ether an inch away from a million dollars or a million inches away from a dollar” !
How is the fuel oil incorporated into the ANFO ? I ask because the stone quarry that I owned had a truck that would show up the day of the blast. This truck had the ammonium nitrate in one reservoir and as it discharged into each hole it would be blended with the fuel oil which was metered from another reservoir. We would do a shot size of 25-30,000 tons at a time. Then this was crushed and screened to make various size stone for construction. Thank you for sharing your progress.
This stuff is pre-mixed and actually dry to the touch. As they mentioned in the video, don't have a cut or scratch on your hand when you touch it, because it burns like heck!
@@muleskinnermining8661 I used the foam-gasketed glasses last time. Haven't decided what I'll use this time, we could be blasting by the end of the month but we're getting all our services/utilities fixed up first. Most of the tasting came from getting it on my hands. Wearing a respirator while loading would be miserable, I'll wear a respirator or glasses but not both!
Blows my mind seeing you guys touching and then essentially breathing in the agent your about to detonate and crush a bunch of rock with… clearly it’s not an issue, just wild..
Considering where the mine is, and the fact California is known for earthquakes, you were probably experiencing a minor one. Hundreds that are to weak to feel can happen every year, as I'm sure you know. But others may not, so yeah. I'm curious if there was one recorded near you on that day. You can probably find it with a quick internet search. I'd do it for you but for obvious reasons you're not disclosing your location. Just type the date and location, and pretext it with _low magnitude,_ or something like that. I used to live in a haunted house, so I know weird shit that we can't explain _Does Happen._ This isn't one of those situations. Until you walk into the mine and see someone else in there, especially since you'll know if anybody went in before you, I'm going to stick with this explanation. But, you never know. Maybe convince them to go hang out at the Horton mine. Or leave an offering of tobacco and liquor _if_ the ghost comes back. Worse case scenario you'll have a few shots to calm your nerves as you wait in the refuge chamber! 😋
it's more than likely a harmonic in the rocks which can be caused by a high use road or highway near by(could be anywhere from 100ft to 10 miles or more depending ground composition). you won't be able to feel it physically but you'll see the movement through hanging objects. could likely hang anything on the post and it'll eventually start shifting given enough time.
Nope. The mooching ghosts can buy their own liquor and tobacco. Can't have any of mine! Plus, there's nothing worse than a drunk ghost, reeking of tobacco. 😆
so while you're looking at the level, the water is running left to right, so I'm assuming that's out... but why is your breath and the dust going right to left?
We used a 12b mucker. There is a way to reduce the derailment issues with these muckers. Also guys getting squished between the wall sucks. Its helps to put in large I-bolts in the ceilings in case you need to lift up the mucker or move it around. We also would put in tempary timber above wedged in to use to wench up our equipment if needed.
Could the mucker be given wheels with higher rims so that it doesn't jump off the track as easy? Insense sticks produce very fine smoke that would show even slight air movement near that level. You could have been seeing a very low tier earthquake. The very tips of my palm tree fronds are fairly sensitive earthquake indicators and will show me quakes that are way too soft to feel.
It's also a better(*) explosive for moving earth as the detonation speed is slower. This gives it a heaving profile that's a bit better suited for mining. Faster ones work just as well for breaking up the rock. The slower ones can be set to push all the rock away from the face, which just makes it easier to muck up afterwards. But, yes, ANFO is cheaper to buy, easier to use, and is by far more stable than dynamite and thus safer to handle.
your breath shows theres still an air current in the mine tween the warm and cold inside and out though slight its still there so it sets up an oscillation in the level which is hanging in that tiny air current
I work for the a mine in Colorado that we are about to be opening it back up for operation it was first opened in 1883. we also have a mill we can run your ore if you guys are looking for someone to mill the ore
10:17 And the next 2 seconds show a puff of mist or a breath ( between the camera and the level) moving from right to left. I think the cause of the level moving was air flow 😉.
great video on the blasting cycle my friend ....would like to hear more details about the drill pattern used and the delays . You can solve the swinging level by lighting a match and check for any air current . Can't wait to see the milling operation and a final pour . Also wanted to see you running the eimco 12b .....keep'em coming and hope you are doing ok after all that has happened
it's actually a rare "11B" which is chain drive.same animal,smaller package.
Lets goooo
Yep would love to know about the drill and delay to
Delays on these types of blasts are usually between .08 and 1.2 m/s between shots, they tend to be drilled in groupings of 3 for shafts less than 5 feet wide and groups of 4 if more than 5 feet wide, with one large burn hole in the middle to give the initial opening 'fracturing' blasts a place to go, then as the shots spiral out, they put in more ANFO as 'lofting' agent because this will push the rock further out of the hole.
With all of the initial fracture shots, its usually not so important to continue to fracture the outer edges, and also, additional wall and back fracturing is something they like to avoid because it can lead to caveins.
ANFO as the final shots tends to peel the rock off the walls that the fracture rounds have already broken up, so this means less concussive force into the walls and back, making the tunnel safer for the miners from then on.
This series really hits home the challenges and difficulties involved with mining.
Good to see you motor is up an running, that sucks about the broke axle.
Great video! I've been patiently waiting for new installments on the Bringing An Abandoned Gold Mine Back To Life series!
So glad to see this video. I’m rewatching all your videos again. I’ve not found another mine exploring channel who can bring me along and make me feel as if I’m there.
5:57 Used that method all the time when the 12B mucker would derail. That piece of 4x4 would always be close by. Awesome to see you guys busting rock! Sure miss that kind of work. I’m currently running a loader or driving a 40 ton haul truck.
when you ran that mucker i bet you really had to be on your toes hopefully, they had spare axle
@@richardbrobeck2384 , never broke an axle on a 12B mucker, but a broken axle on an ore car doesn't surprise me.
Great job Justin, I also reported 2 people in the comments about porn invites to your viewers. This happens alot with us. They need to be deleted from the channel. Thanks for another blasting update on your mine.
Concert stage designers are jealous of your perfect haze in 2:00 section 🤣
Nice lift on that charge... That will really help when mucking it out, and a good reach on that scaling bar. Either you have seismic activity, or your shaft is haunted. Try hanging a plumb line on a different upright and see if it does it as well. Hang in there - Hugs and Prayers !!!
Man I love this stuff, J. It confirms what we all know, there are no slackers working in mines, some of the hardest work I have ever seen.
😴 Yeah, this definitely ISN'T a job for the average state road crew worker! Many of them are accustomed to work days that consist of 80% of the crew standing around smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee, while 2 guys do a little bit of work every now and then. If the job SHOULD take 6 months, they drag it out into a 4-5 year, on & off project.
That particular "work ethic" may tend to cause a mining firm to declare bankruptcy in short order!
@@HighlanderNorth1 that's what's called," our tax dollars at rest!!"
Something that our whole country, and majority of the government workers from smallest towns, to those elected into the jobs that are supposed to be there working for the citizens of our country.
Yet the hours put in don't justify the lack of productivity produced on average per vast numbers of people paid to do whatever position they're there to preform daily.
Not saying that this the case for everyone, but the averages bring everyone down because of the slackers versus the few who work to the best of their abilities during their work hours.
Shame that it's become this way, but on average most wouldn't survive a week at a regular job that the majority of Americans work at daily, because they would be terminated for lack of productivity period.
10 minute episodes at the mine are perfect!
As cliche as the meme is, _at 11 seconds in you had me with the word "explosives"_
I love this series and apparently so do many others! If imitation truly is a form of flattery, then you're onto something good. I've noticed a few other channels are also doing this, although Canadian Frank has been working on his for about as long, if not longer, than you all. He also runs a museum, so I think he gets top marks for that. However, I believe he is bringing his on line for public access/tours. Whereas you guys are going for the gold itself. So there will be some obviously differences between the two.
I hope things have been treating you well. You've got a lot of people sending prayers your way. And whether you believe in that stuff or not, it shouldn't really matter. I've always viewed people saying that as "I've done something to make them care about me, so I'll do my best not to let them down!"
Are you following something or just HOPING to cross a vein ? Great show !
Thank you so much for this update, I really enjoy seeing the inner workings of a mine
Thank you for showing what a miner has to do so that precious ore can be extracted .This is a true HANDS on .will rewatch again and again ⛏️💣❤️
Hope no body got hurt during that derailment and Thank's for the ride!!!; )
Great video! I did some exploration geophysics with my professor dad about 30 years ago and he used Tovex water-gel explosive (it's ammonium nitrate with a high-octane fuel added) for putting a pulse of energy into the ground looking for ancient river channels for placer gold. Tovex is contained in plastic tubes, so I always imagined that's what modern ammonium nitrate explosives were - I had no idea you could just blow the stuff into the holes without a container! Learned a bunch from this one - including derailments are part of the 'fun' - good to have you back after all you've been through.
Hey Justin, do you have any videos on details of this mine like the age of it, how your involved in the mine, the original depth and how far you've driven the tunnels ect? So cool to see an old mine being resurrected
This is so interesting. Every new video in this endeavor is great! I’ve watched the 16 to 1 series a half a dozen times. Thanks for your hard work!!
Great video Justin!
Seismic vibrations is my guess on why the level was moving. Put a mail around the corner of the beam next time you see it moving and see if it moves that direction!
Justin, I am still concerned about you and everything that has been effecting your life and your family’s lives. Just letting you know I had not forgotten your struggles & challenges. I am continuing praying for peace, understanding and comfort for you and your family!
Thanks for the video Justin. Great to hear you again. Hope all is well with you. Even just the water falling in the background of that swinging level must create a tiny localized breeze of some sort. Maybe that constant tiny breeze is all that was needed to get it gently rocking.
Stay safe. And always looking forward to your video.
The videos in this series bring it all home. One Tough Job!
Very cool .. Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Good afternoon from Southeast South Dakota
Thank you for the update .
Good to see you back at the mine and making progress.
The mucker is a dangerous vehicle and very fragile in the gearbox .
The mucker in the Rammelsbergmine is every time defekt okay it is very old but only in use without any rocks or some heavy load
The space is very small to Operate the mucker and without a footrest to stand on very dangerous.
The swinging Level is unusual
Okay a little breeze of air or the post the Level hang on vibrates or swing and that is not a good sign .
Please Touch the Post an feel if its vibrate .
But we dont want to think in a bad way it is a small breeze 😀😃🙂
Take care and in German Glück Auf
Best wishes to you and the Crew
Yours Frank Galetzka
Another great Video glad to see the mine is really coming along !
HEY!! come back we miss you! the wife and I love your work and watch it together. it's a high point for our week. Wishing you well. And thanks for everything.
Did the bolts cause the derailment? In the video it appears that the flange hit the bolts and was kicked off the tracks? I think round head carriage bolts then trimmed off at the nut could solve that? I would like to hear the solution 🙂
I hope nobody was hurt?
This is a good production, I'm enjoying the adventure of it. Thanks for these.
Always very interesting to watch you guys mining in action!
Love what your doing. Would like to see more details. 11 minutes to short. Keep up with the great videos.
Good to see your back, and sound to be in good state of mind.
Keep your head up, and eye's forward, because things get better with time as we all know, but seem to forget at times.
Be safe and well
A handyman jack in a hole in the ground. Awesome!
Man I love these videos about bringing the mine back to life! So interesting!
As far as the level moving, id say its the ground moving… low intensity earthquake or the natural slow collapse, possibly a combination.
Very cool. Really makes you appreciate the work that went into a number of these mines.
i think the shovel may have influenced it's sway
Love these videos. . .informational and educational. BTW - how you doing>
Great video! Very impressive! I've subscribed to follow...
Glad to see another update video! The level was interesting.
The air is moving residually from when the fans were on and convection, possibly helped by the running water... Yes, I have an imagination and really have no idea why the level was swinging😂 Have you tried to light a match and double check for air movement?
The mucker is a scary machine. I had a go on one with a side plate you could stand on to operate, good fun, that bucket goes back really fast!
It throws that sonuvabitching bucket past your face with a whoosh! At least the one I was next to when they were operating it did lol.
Huh, that level is kind of cool, does it always wobble like that? Someone mentioned it's rotating with the earths axis, an experiment called a foucault pendulum, but that can't be since it requires energy for the swinging object to keep moving, in museums they use a little motor to keep the pendulums swinging. I'd hazard a guess that it could be air movement but that level looks relatively heavy and would require a decent amount of air flow to get moving, even with something like a leaky duct nearby. I'd probably give it a strong nudge and see how long until it stops moving or returns to the baseline movement, just as a sort of control variable. Could possibly be an earthquake, my sisters ceiling lamp was swinging during a light earthquake in san francisco that I couldn't feel, but it would have stopped swaying fairly quickly. Something seems to be imparting a bit of energy so it swings though, that's for sure lol.
Mountains are ever pushing upward thus the vibration causes the level to sway
It is cool to see how that is done. It’s easy to see how dangerous it is even with mining regulations can’t imagine what it was like 100 years ago
i can tell you...
Take a human, and stuff explosives with another human. It's that simple.
back then, death in the mines was normal, and in fact, people died inside the mines, more often then the cowboys shooting outside. Nobady gave shit about safety, get a hard hat, and simple instructions how to do this, get someone who already did it, guide you through it, and youre quolified expert after 2 tries.
In fact, they had no machines probobly like muckers, they just hand picked everything, another group hand sieved everything that the first group picked up, and so on... Now as you can see mining can be done with like 7-10 people... 100 years ago, they did it with haundreds.
This has to be one of the hardest jobs on the planet, not to mention dangerous. Too bad the Forest Service can’t make a decision so that you don’t have to move the material twice. 😡🤯 Government red tape. Thank you for videotaping your blasting process. Scary!
Great video. Be safe!
Who wouldve thought you would start mining at such an opportune time?? Precious metals are in high demand. I would be really impressed if you turned a profit out of something I believe you intended to be a demonstration! Lol
Simple outflow of water drainage equals air moving as well as natural forces such as low and high pressure weather systems changing. I've been in a few situations where Co2 sumps are fine under high pressure weather and very dicey during low pressure events. You have air flow...
Watching right after part 10.
The amount of dust kicked in the air from blasting dust and rock out of the drilling holes looks similar to the dustiest dry mines you've been exploring, and I bet the vacuuming process also aerosolises a good amount of ANFO - would explain the headache your mate was complaining about. If it were me I'd be wearing respiratory protection, but then I'm also smoking a cigarette right as I type this, so to each their own.
Turns out the mucker tour I wished for in my comment on your last video ended up happening in this one, so thanks!
In other channels, that oscillating level would definitely have led to a sponsored 20 minute video about how this mine is cursed and haunted, complete with pareidolia and pretending to get scared of any shadow or noise. :)
Sorry about that nasty loaded ore car derailment and axle snapping, looks rough and expensive. I guess it's part of the job/fun to have to deal with and adapt to unforeseen events like this in a mine. Can't always be enjoying yourself handling explosives and operating machines that might take your arm or leg if you're not careful!
Looking forward to your next in this series! Stay safe.
Thank you for your video.
Justin as always another fantastic video. The section your working in is just to get back to the vain?
ANFO is Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil. It's wet. Not sure what that stuff you used is, but it's very different to the ANFO we used to use.
Love your work. You're living the dream
Air flow moving the level? Very interesting, how deep did you drill? Thanks, nice see back on the tube!!👍🤙👍🤙
Got to say i found this ever so intresting to watch and to think bk in the day the miners did the same thing as well so to see u guys do that mine was the best thing ever and so informally :) but the question to that moving Level was very strange indeed .
Interested to see how much progress has been made since this was recorded. Hoping the forest service has approved your waste rock pile location. That level swaying was interesting, maybe it’s so perfectly balanced on the nail and away from the post just enough to swing like a pendulum? That derailment 😬 Hope you’re well, everything considered. ✌️
Thank God I love for these
Very cool jb and i where up that way you guys are kicking ass
The level is moving with the wobble of the Earth in its rotation around it's axis. I learned this from an exhibit at the Oregon Museum of Natural History where they attached a plumb bob at the top of very high ceiling above a bed of sand that the plumb lightly traced the shape of the wobble in the sand, after 24 hours it made a complete 360 degree pattern around the center!
the discovery museum or what ever it's called in california had one of those setup.. pretty cool to see.
I ran an EMICO 12B and I can send you pictures of the setup at the time including the slider rail setup if you are interested.
Great stuff nice to see you back
First! Great to see this series back!
So at this point are you actually following a vein, where the rock you are blasting out contains ore, or are you extending a access tunnel to an area where bore holes show more promise for finding Gold? Will this "muck" just be dumped or actually processed? How long after the blast was the level rocking filmed? Maybe there are still reverberations in the ground from the blast, or seismic activity like others have noted?
The level on the nail could have been a sign of seismic activity maybe.
Light a match and blow it out and check the smoke. Maybe run a plumb bob and see it if sways as well. Regardless. Glad your back. I know summer the slow time for uploads but still good to see a fresh video. Hope everything is going good after all you've been through.
Nice clean air
Another great video! I hope you guys strike the Comstock of California and get rich beyond imagination! Good luck! Mel The Ice Man.
That's a four letter word here in Minnesota, snow!
the level rocking looks like its from the air movement. you can see the lint' dust and steam moving in the background
did you scale that area after blasting? great looking shot!
Hope the forest service help you guys out soon . Very cool video . I wondered watching this are they gonna break threw to the mother load
thanks for the video, man that axle break that is just too much
Interesting vid , however I’d like to give you some sage advice from a 38yr professional underground hard rock miner. First off I’d ditch the old non ele caps and switch to snapdets . Non ele’s are so 1980’s and way too expensive having to purchase all those delays . Snaps are the way to go you get 15-16 different delays in one cap assembly and you can ditch the det cord too! More cost effective. Having run many a 12B and other rail muckers and installing miles of rail during my career some words of wisdom ALWAYS KEEP YOUR SLIDES CLEAN ! while mucking get that blowpipe and use it ! This saves you from derailing , allows you to see where the next tie goes ect. If you do derail keep a 3’-4’ timber handy for quick fixes it’s much easier to jump a mucker back on the track with a short timber than using a handy man jack ! You do this by wedging one end of the timber on the floor the other against the front or rear of the 12b depending upon which end derailed and driving the mucker ether forward or back it will push the mucker up high enough to get the wheels up then give her a nudge when she’s over the rail back / forward out from under the timber and she will fall into the rail . Works ever single time ! Finn hoes are a waste of time ! Too expensive and too much work ! Use a blowpipe instead. A blowpipe or “ miners broom” is simpler once you get the hang of the many uses there good for . When it come to drilling your round don’t add any more drill holes than necessary to break the rock into chunks rather than blow everything into powder! Unless your goal is to waste your time mucking ! Chunks are quick to load whereas powdered rock is not ! If your goal is 1 round per shift then disregard my last statement. Also you need to delay / time the lifters better and time them so the muck is heaved more to the right side of the drift ! This lets you muck with the step on the 12b from the get go . This might not be too big a deal since your not timbering your adit / drift .
Anyway keep giving her the onion ! Good luck and remember when someone asks you to explain mining tell them “ mining is simple your ether an inch away from a million dollars or a million inches away from a dollar” !
How is the fuel oil incorporated into the ANFO ? I ask because the stone quarry that I owned had a truck that would show up the day of the blast. This truck had the ammonium nitrate in one reservoir and as it discharged into each hole it would be blended with the fuel oil which was metered from another reservoir. We would do a shot size of 25-30,000 tons at a time. Then this was crushed and screened to make various size stone for construction. Thank you for sharing your progress.
This stuff is pre-mixed and actually dry to the touch. As they mentioned in the video, don't have a cut or scratch on your hand when you touch it, because it burns like heck!
@@muleskinnermining8661 Thank you for the reply, much appreciated.
@@muleskinnermining8661 And tastes funny too...
@@Porty1119 no kidding! I’ve never worn a mask while loading holes, but always wore some kind of eye protection.
@@muleskinnermining8661 I used the foam-gasketed glasses last time. Haven't decided what I'll use this time, we could be blasting by the end of the month but we're getting all our services/utilities fixed up first.
Most of the tasting came from getting it on my hands. Wearing a respirator while loading would be miserable, I'll wear a respirator or glasses but not both!
I guess the level is static and everything else is moving. Check the bubbles. :)
Blows my mind seeing you guys touching and then essentially breathing in the agent your about to detonate and crush a bunch of rock with… clearly it’s not an issue, just wild..
Breathe enough nitrate or absorb enough through your skin, and you will have a headache that puts the worst hangover to shame.
Considering where the mine is, and the fact California is known for earthquakes, you were probably experiencing a minor one. Hundreds that are to weak to feel can happen every year, as I'm sure you know. But others may not, so yeah.
I'm curious if there was one recorded near you on that day. You can probably find it with a quick internet search. I'd do it for you but for obvious reasons you're not disclosing your location. Just type the date and location, and pretext it with _low magnitude,_ or something like that.
I used to live in a haunted house, so I know weird shit that we can't explain _Does Happen._ This isn't one of those situations. Until you walk into the mine and see someone else in there, especially since you'll know if anybody went in before you, I'm going to stick with this explanation.
But, you never know. Maybe convince them to go hang out at the Horton mine. Or leave an offering of tobacco and liquor _if_ the ghost comes back. Worse case scenario you'll have a few shots to calm your nerves as you wait in the refuge chamber! 😋
it's more than likely a harmonic in the rocks which can be caused by a high use road or highway near by(could be anywhere from 100ft to 10 miles or more depending ground composition). you won't be able to feel it physically but you'll see the movement through hanging objects. could likely hang anything on the post and it'll eventually start shifting given enough time.
Nope.
The mooching ghosts can buy their own liquor and tobacco. Can't have any of mine!
Plus, there's nothing worse than a drunk ghost, reeking of tobacco.
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That mucker sounds like tons of fun. Thanks for sharing
Did you say 'not winter yet but starting to get cold' ? When was this recorded?
so while you're looking at the level, the water is running left to right, so I'm assuming that's out... but why is your breath and the dust going right to left?
The flowing water behind the timber that the level is hanging on is causing the level to swing ever-so-slightly.
Maybe it's the "Foucault Pendulum" effect that's causing the level to move back and forth.
Leave the empty bags lying around so that in a hundred years, future TH-cam mine explorers will have something to pick up and comment on... :)
Yep time capsules
Leave them some gold in a good spot
Young guys work!
We used a 12b mucker. There is a way to reduce the derailment issues with these muckers. Also guys getting squished between the wall sucks.
Its helps to put in large I-bolts in the ceilings in case you need to lift up the mucker or move it around. We also would put in tempary timber above wedged in to use to wench up our equipment if needed.
Wow, the level pendulum...
Didn't expect the blasts to be so bassy
as for the level moving back and forward can it be from the earth spinning ?
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo buddy!! Get it!
Maybe be some good off road tires on the mucker. Some you can steer like a tank
This is a true time when you can tell a buddy to "go muck yourself!" and actually mean it with good intentions.
Watching your breathe drift away there is a slight breeze in there by that hanging level.
Is the gold in the rock that got blasted or are you looking for a vein???
Looks like waste rock, maybe some kind of schist. I'm not familiar with the geology up that way.
The ground movin
Are you following a vein ?
How are you deciding what direction to go?
Could the mucker be given wheels with higher rims so that it doesn't jump off the track as easy?
Insense sticks produce very fine smoke that would show even slight air movement near that level. You could have been seeing a very low tier earthquake. The very tips of my palm tree fronds are fairly sensitive earthquake indicators and will show me quakes that are way too soft to feel.
Is the powder anfo cheaper than stick form?
Yes
It's also a better(*) explosive for moving earth as the detonation speed is slower. This gives it a heaving profile that's a bit better suited for mining. Faster ones work just as well for breaking up the rock. The slower ones can be set to push all the rock away from the face, which just makes it easier to muck up afterwards.
But, yes, ANFO is cheaper to buy, easier to use, and is by far more stable than dynamite and thus safer to handle.
your breath shows theres still an air current in the mine tween the warm and cold inside and out though slight its still there so it sets up an oscillation in the level which is hanging in that tiny air current
I wanna see the gold.....end product!
Tell your colleagues to wear HEARING PROTECTION!! I worked on a metro tunnel with a young miner (30s) who was deaf as a post from not wearing ear pro.
Not the best cliffhanger ever just bad news wow.
I work for the a mine in Colorado that we are about to be opening it back up for operation it was first opened in 1883. we also have a mill we can run your ore if you guys are looking for someone to mill the ore
10:17 And the next 2 seconds show a puff of mist or a breath ( between the camera and the level) moving from right to left. I think the cause of the level moving was air flow 😉.
Looks like a pendulum effect at 9:45