The actress that portrayed Edith Keeler is Joan Collins. She was pretty famous in her day. She was the star of the original “Dynasty” TV Series from the early 1980s. She once posed nude as a Playboy centerfold.
@Fizbin1701 Clark Gable was an international movie star of the highest order back when that actually meant something. Joan Collins never was more than B-list at best.
Hey, Courtney! "The City on the Edge of Forever" with Joan Collins guest starring as Edith Keeler is widely considered to be Trek at its very best and is probably the most highly regarded episode of the Original Series. It usually ranks among the top five in "Best Of..." lists.
"What time period is she going to go back to where things are gonna be ok?" Yes, Captain Kirk definitely needed to give Uhura a lot more historical context on that one!
They all needed a thorough historical briefing, since depending on what region and what century they stepped through into, none of Kirk's landing party was safe, as could be testified to by the 1.25 million-plus White Europeans, who were enslaved by Barbary Pirates and others( as one small example of many possibilities ) Their best course of action would at least be to enter the portal at the same time, so at least they'd be together.
13:40 One of the subtler points of the episode is how Edith Keeler was pivotal to history, while McCoy's presence also causes the death of the hobo, which didn't seem to cause even the slightest ripple in history.
Forever losing my shit about Spock saying “let me help” while in terrible pain in the episode immediately following the one with the quote about “let me help” meaning “I love you”
It's been said that 1930 is a bit soon for Clark Gable to be a movie star. I figure that the day Kirk and Spock arrived, they were met by that policeman, but had they not been there, the cop would've walked a bit further on, and he would've come across a guy hurrying to a movie audition (some studios still made movies in New York in those days), and given him a jaywalking ticket, causing him to miss his chance to break into pictures on that day, and Clark Gable's movie career would've thus taken a few more years to get going; but with Kirk and Spock there, Gable made his 1930 audition, and was soon a star, just within the time frame of the episode!
I heard he got lost in a Jeffries tube and was never heard from again. The working theory is he was playing live-action Dungeons & Dragons with some impressionable ensigns.
Another recent Trek reaction to this episode described it as a talking butthole. In other circles, someone named it simply "Carl". (The name was never explained, but I'm guessing it was to honor Carl Sagan.)
Operation: Annihilate is mostly remembered for the "pancakes", Kirk's out of nowhere family and nephew never heard of again, but I think the Bones/Kirk/Spock stuff is top notch in regards to the blindness subplot. Even in mid tier TOS there's some good stuff.
Well, to be fair regarding the "out of nowhere family", pretty much everyone else's is also unknown until and unless an episode requires their introduction.
Something I think _The City on the Edge of Forever_ illustrates rather well is the way, if we ever get time travel figured out, it could well deliver us into circumstances where we have to either let someone we love die or say goodbye to our whole civilization. Edith Keeler was a good woman which makes her death tragic. But Allied victory in WWII was a necessary outcome in order for the UFP to begin, and for that to happen, Keeler's death was necessary. Compounding the tragedy a _little_ bit more is the fact that she actually managed to steal Kirk's heart, so he had to choose between his duty to the Federation and his love for her. This is the kind of situation _Star Trek_ has historically prided itself on its ability to deliver.
If you watch The Orville they do an alternative timeline in the last 2 episodes of season 2. Even more elaborate than this. The exterior shots for Operation Annihilate were filmed on the TRW campus in Redondo beach.
His girlfriend one week, his brother and sister-in-law the next. A bad couple weeks to be Captain Kirk. There was a novel set between seasons one and two in which the Enterprise goes back to Earth for some shore leave (and presumably for Kirk to bring his nephew home - maybe to be raised by grandparents? - and for funeral services). Kirk really hasn't had much in terms of love interests at this point in the series. One of "Mudd's Women" liked him but nothing happened, we know he and Rand had feelings for each other but nothing happened, he kissed an android to confuse her, a teen girl had a crush on him but - obviously - nothing happened, he had some kind of awkward flirtation at a Christmas party with a crew-member before they launched who he later made out with while under mind control, he got close to Kodos' daughter to investigate him then she turned out to be nuts, we see a re-creation of an old girlfriend in Shore Leave and an actual old girlfriend in Court Martial...and that's it. We've seen him kiss maybe three women: one while under mind control, one as a strategy and one good-bye kiss to an old flame. We did hear he and Gary talk about a blonde he almost married who we...may meet eventually.
When you think about it, McCoy hadn't changed history ... what changed history was that all three of them had to go back. Prior to this episode, everything was as it was, and afterwards everything was as it was, but in that little gap of time during which McCoy had gone back but Kirk and Spock hadn't yet, that's when the ship vanished and everything was gone. It was Kirk taking her to the movies that got her across the street, and seeing McCoy, Kirk, and Spock all happily greeting one another that got her to cross the street back to the mission. All three of them had to be there for Edith to die. From the landing party's point of view, the split second Kirk and Spock went back as well, everything was fine again. McCoy hadn't done anything nor prevented anything. It's just that all of them had to go back to keep things as they were meant to be.
You never heard Kirk/others swearing on this show so him saying "Let's get the hell out of here" was a big deal and expressed how much her death affected him.
Nice reactions. I like the original Star Trek because they used all science fiction writers who really knew how to create these stories. The love story first is heartbreaking but understandable. Yes I agree Kirk was a bit much on the 2nd episode. Just pushing unnecessarily. Note - Kirk's nephew is never mentioned again and we have no idea what happened to him.
@@docsavage8640there were writers who could have created a one line answer to what happened to the boy but it wasn't considered necessary . Different times of episodic tv not lack of money or time.
Someone else already called out the Harlan Ellison connection. DC Fontana (who I believe I mentioned in a comment to an earlier Trek reaction) was an uncredited writer on City on the Edge of Forever as well). I’m a bit of a fan of Ellison’s, so some tidbits: he’s written other teleplays, probably available on this web site. There’s an old episode of The Outer Limits called “The Demon with the Glass Hand” and an 80’s era episode of The Twilight Zone called “Shatterday”, which stars a fairly young actor-you-would-probably-recognize. He’s written an almost uncountable number of short stories; one of his most famous is “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream”, which teen-me adored (much older me hasn’t read it in ages, but I suspect it will hold up). He was also a credited consultant on the Babylon 5 TV series, which you may want on your radar. I don’t like it as much as it’s (many) more confirmed fans, but I do like it it it did some genuinely unique things, particularly for the time. Lastly, there’s a documentary on Ellison called “Dreams with Sharp Teeth” which I think is worth watching. Cheers!
Having actually experienced temporary blindness, if only for three or four minutes, Kirk is right, regaining eyesight is emotional. And Spock is right, seeing McCoy right in your face wouod temper the joy a bit.
There is a scene that was filmed but edited out that showed Tommy on the bridge with Kirk. Since Kirk's mother was still alive (according to the book THE MAKING OF STAR TREK) Tommy was probably sent back to Earth to live with his grandmother.
Kirk HAD to let Edith go, and I wouldn't be surprised if he took at least a week off and just turned things over to Spock for awhile. On the other hand, constant work is probably therapeutic for someone like Kirk. If so, I doubt there was much chit-chat on the bridge for quite a while.
I first saw Operation: Annihilate around 1970, when so was about 5 years old. It scared the kerrap out of me, because you couldn't talk to or reason with these things. No sign of where they came from, or if there were more. Imagine if other planets had infestations of them, a long way off. It's just terrifying what might happen if nobody knew how to stop them. Another thing: I always wanted to see what Peter Kirk would be like as an srult. It would be very rough living your life with both parents gone. Jim never saw him again in the show or the movies.
The City on the Edge of forever (for most fans) is the #1 episode of all time. I think Operation: Annihilate is a great episode. But but but….. the 2nd season premier is FANTASTIC. Cant wait for you to see it. Also in the top 5 or so I’d say.
Of course. I have worked with members of the military over the years in various jobs, and I appreciate what they do or what they have done in the past. The truth is, I love analyzing. This is how my brain works. If I didn't do this then I would be much quieter in my videos. Plus, it helps even more with avoiding copyright issues that can come up.
@@CourtReacts-zm9yv that makes sense! I’m sorry I sounded overly-critiquing. I love a good reaction, but it takes build up and analyzation, both of which you do better than many reactors. Thanks again!
I'm glad you enjoyed this episode; it was one of the more interesting episodes in the series. I wonder if you'll ever see the Guardian again? Things that make you go hmmm????
I didn't want to be accused of spoiling anything, so I didn't mention the name of the show and figured she'll discover it sooner or later @@jefetters7182
oooh city on the edge of forever is a great episode 🙂 ooh that second episode, I had forgotten about it! but it's a good one too. Star Trek has a really good movie about time travel also, but that's later in your star trek journey. Unless you do indeed decide to skip to the movies, which, I am totally NOT offended if you do 🙂it's up to you how you want to experience star trek. 🙂 When I was growing up, TOS was played in syndication and reruns still.....I grew up in late 80s to mid 90s...graduated HS 1996....I remember in 1987 (the year TNG came out), there was an advertisement for Star Trek: The Next Generation ("TNG") on the back of a Honey Nut Cheerios box, I was nine years old. I was like "oooh, the guy from Reading Rainbow is the engineer! And instead of a Vulcan they have a robot!" I was quite excited lol. LeVar Burton was definitely a childhood hero 🙂 I loved him on Reading Rainbow, Roots, and TNG 🙂 "islands in the sky, I can go twice as high, take a look, it's in a book, a reading rainbow...." (that was a kid's show on PBS when I was a kid lol. LeVar Burton was the host.)
I do enjoy your reactions, but I hope you can appreciate this comment. Captain Kirk developed actual love for Edith Keeler. His interactions with most other women are not at that same depth. In the Trek universe, Captain Kirk only felt deep love towards 3 women. The 1st one from his past appears during the episode Shore Leave, the 2nd here is Edith Keeler, the 3rd is not revealed until you are into the TOS films. When Kirk holds Edith's hand, it reminds me of Chris Rock's bit on how significant it is for a man to hold a woman's hand.
Don't forget the blonde that Gary Mitchell threw at Kirk back at the Academy, mentioned in the episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before". Kirk almost married her.
@@paulsander5433 The Shore Leave script lists Ruth as an old academy love. That would coincide with being that very blonde that Gary Mitchell refers to during the episode of Where No Man Has Gone Before
@@Stephanie-StarTrekFan-is-Muji Perhaps, but another woman named Carol seems to have a claim, too. 🙂 I guess she's one of the three. There was also the lawyer in "Court Martial," but there may be an argument that she doesn't count.
Both of these episodes are on my list of Star Trek episodes that JJ Trek should've expanded into a feature length movie instead of a crappy re-trend of Wrath of Khan! Both of them do a lot for fleshing out Kirk's character and have high enough physical and emotional stakes as is.
"The city on the edge of forever" As great as the story is I wouldn't put this as one of my favorite episodes. Not even the top 5. I enjoyed it more after I watched it numerous times. At first I took it a just another reason for Kirk to push a love story. That said, I like that McCoy gets to Rock🎸 "Operation Annihilate" This one was middle of the pack for me. Kirk's brother's family inclusion wasn't all that necessary for me. Majel Barrett was eventually married to Gene Roddenberry and when it came down to keeping one of the "hot blondes" she got priority over Grace Lee Wittney. No need to guess who got the gig in the long run.🙄
"City On The Edge of Forever" was written by Harlan Ellison, a famous writer of fantastic literature, television criticism, author of many books, stories, and essays, who won the Writer's Guild of America writing award for his original script for this episode, and the episode won a Hugo Award for "Best Dramatic Presentation." Harlan also used to tour the country, giving talks on college campuses, science fiction conventions, bookstores, and being wildly popular as a speaker. He died about five years ago now. This episode is generally considered to be the best TOS episode. There's lots of trivia that goes with it; just a sample are that the backlot was reused by innumerable movies and TV shows, including THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW; if you look closely at a store window that Edith and Kirk walked by, you'll notice that it's Floyd's barbershop. Something that amuses me is that Harlan's original script said that the Time Portal was "surrounded by runes," meaning ancient writing and symbology. But the producers were confused and instead surrounded the portal with ancient RUINS. Oops. The script was also rewritten many many times before the final version, which Harlan didn't like, was filmed.
Ellison's actual script was such a turkey they had to change almost everything about it. He didn't understand the characters, the setting, or TV budgets. The actual episode is a major improvement on the shinola he wrote. However, I hear he's a good short story sci fi writer. I haven't read anything except a not-very-good Batman comic he wrote.
Maybe the reason Kirk was always poking at Spock was because Spock was always denying his human half with remarks like "Your Earth," and "You humans."
City on the edge of forever is considered one of the best by many fans.
It is so good!
A little overrated. Probably because of who wrote it.
The town set is the Mayberry set. Floyd's barber shop is in the background in one scene.
The Andy Griffith Show was filmed at Desilu just like Star Trek
The actress that portrayed Edith Keeler is Joan Collins. She was pretty famous in her day.
She was the star of the original “Dynasty” TV Series from the early 1980s. She once posed nude as a Playboy centerfold.
She also made some spicy movies in the 1970's. And the Queen made her a Dame.
The costume Joan wore on Space: 1999 puts the skimpy Trek costumes to shame.
@Fizbin1701 Clark Gable was an international movie star of the highest order back when that actually meant something. Joan Collins never was more than B-list at best.
@timmooney7528 a thigh-length dress on Space: 1999 is nothing compared to Uhura's minidress.
Hey, Courtney! "The City on the Edge of Forever" with Joan Collins guest starring as Edith Keeler is widely considered to be Trek at its very best and is probably the most highly regarded episode of the Original Series. It usually ranks among the top five in "Best Of..." lists.
"What time period is she going to go back to where things are gonna be ok?"
Yes, Captain Kirk definitely needed to give Uhura a lot more historical context on that one!
Yes! I would have loved to have heard his answer.
They all needed a thorough historical briefing, since depending on what region and what century they stepped through into, none of Kirk's landing party was safe, as could be testified to by the 1.25 million-plus White Europeans, who were enslaved by Barbary Pirates and others( as one small example of many possibilities )
Their best course of action would at least be to enter the portal at the same time, so at least they'd be together.
@@stevejoshua9536 Yes! Safety in numbers!
I'd insist on going with Scotty. At least his technological knowledge and ability would let us live high on the hog in any era.
Well, I would say anything post 1980 but even then...
Let's just hope things continue to get better and not worse.
You can always count on Spock in a pinch!
13:40 One of the subtler points of the episode is how Edith Keeler was pivotal to history, while McCoy's presence also causes the death of the hobo, which didn't seem to cause even the slightest ripple in history.
Forever losing my shit about Spock saying “let me help” while in terrible pain in the episode immediately following the one with the quote about “let me help” meaning “I love you”
I believe there's a deleted scene with Kirk's nephew coming onto the bridge at the end (I saw it in "The Roddenberry Vault").
CotEoF is probably my favorite TV episode of all time. Great reaction!
It's been said that 1930 is a bit soon for Clark Gable to be a movie star. I figure that the day Kirk and Spock arrived, they were met by that policeman, but had they not been there, the cop would've walked a bit further on, and he would've come across a guy hurrying to a movie audition (some studios still made movies in New York in those days), and given him a jaywalking ticket, causing him to miss his chance to break into pictures on that day, and Clark Gable's movie career would've thus taken a few more years to get going; but with Kirk and Spock there, Gable made his 1930 audition, and was soon a star, just within the time frame of the episode!
The nephew was dropped off at the nearest star base with a little suitcase and a note pinned to his shirt.
I heard he got lost in a Jeffries tube and was never heard from again. The working theory is he was playing live-action Dungeons & Dragons with some impressionable ensigns.
Delighted that you got to see City on the Edge of Forever!
Great episode reactions! BTW: When we were kids, my friends & I always referred to the Guardian of Forever as "The Giant Talking Donut!" (LOL!) 😅
Another recent Trek reaction to this episode described it as a talking butthole. In other circles, someone named it simply "Carl". (The name was never explained, but I'm guessing it was to honor Carl Sagan.)
That is funny! I would have probably called it that too.
The fried egg aliens 😂
Be sure to check out the gag reel after finishing the series.
The aliens were created using hot glue or industrial adhesive.
Yes! They looked exactly like that.
I thought they looked more like that novelty gag barf you could buy from catalogues and comic book ads
@@docsavage8640 I can see that too!
Operation: Annihilate is mostly remembered for the "pancakes", Kirk's out of nowhere family and nephew never heard of again, but I think the Bones/Kirk/Spock stuff is top notch in regards to the blindness subplot. Even in mid tier TOS there's some good stuff.
Well, to be fair regarding the "out of nowhere family", pretty much everyone else's is also unknown until and unless an episode requires their introduction.
Something I think _The City on the Edge of Forever_ illustrates rather well is the way, if we ever get time travel figured out, it could well deliver us into circumstances where we have to either let someone we love die or say goodbye to our whole civilization.
Edith Keeler was a good woman which makes her death tragic. But Allied victory in WWII was a necessary outcome in order for the UFP to begin, and for that to happen, Keeler's death was necessary. Compounding the tragedy a _little_ bit more is the fact that she actually managed to steal Kirk's heart, so he had to choose between his duty to the Federation and his love for her.
This is the kind of situation _Star Trek_ has historically prided itself on its ability to deliver.
I just found your Star Trek posts - your reactions are really fun, thx watching this show! 😊
Two top-tier episodes 🧡🧡
If you watch The Orville they do an alternative timeline in the last 2 episodes of season 2. Even more elaborate than this. The exterior shots for Operation Annihilate were filmed on the TRW campus in Redondo beach.
His girlfriend one week, his brother and sister-in-law the next. A bad couple weeks to be Captain Kirk. There was a novel set between seasons one and two in which the Enterprise goes back to Earth for some shore leave (and presumably for Kirk to bring his nephew home - maybe to be raised by grandparents? - and for funeral services).
Kirk really hasn't had much in terms of love interests at this point in the series. One of "Mudd's Women" liked him but nothing happened, we know he and Rand had feelings for each other but nothing happened, he kissed an android to confuse her, a teen girl had a crush on him but - obviously - nothing happened, he had some kind of awkward flirtation at a Christmas party with a crew-member before they launched who he later made out with while under mind control, he got close to Kodos' daughter to investigate him then she turned out to be nuts, we see a re-creation of an old girlfriend in Shore Leave and an actual old girlfriend in Court Martial...and that's it. We've seen him kiss maybe three women: one while under mind control, one as a strategy and one good-bye kiss to an old flame. We did hear he and Gary talk about a blonde he almost married who we...may meet eventually.
When you think about it, McCoy hadn't changed history ... what changed history was that all three of them had to go back. Prior to this episode, everything was as it was, and afterwards everything was as it was, but in that little gap of time during which McCoy had gone back but Kirk and Spock hadn't yet, that's when the ship vanished and everything was gone. It was Kirk taking her to the movies that got her across the street, and seeing McCoy, Kirk, and Spock all happily greeting one another that got her to cross the street back to the mission. All three of them had to be there for Edith to die.
From the landing party's point of view, the split second Kirk and Spock went back as well, everything was fine again. McCoy hadn't done anything nor prevented anything. It's just that all of them had to go back to keep things as they were meant to be.
You never heard Kirk/others swearing on this show so him saying "Let's get the hell out of here" was a big deal and expressed how much her death affected him.
Nice reactions.
I like the original Star Trek because they used all science fiction writers who really knew how to create these stories.
The love story first is heartbreaking but understandable.
Yes I agree Kirk was a bit much on the 2nd episode. Just pushing unnecessarily.
Note - Kirk's nephew is never mentioned again and we have no idea what happened to him.
Great comment. But on a show like this they wouldn't be able to mention all these guest stars again, no time and no money for that.
Thank you so much! I was hoping to see more of his nephew in the series, but oh well.
@@docsavage8640there were writers who could have created a one line answer to what happened to the boy but it wasn't considered necessary . Different times of episodic tv not lack of money or time.
Hey Courtney, hope you’re doing great.❤
Hey! I am doing well. Hope things are good on your end.
Finished with Season 1! Now on to Season 2!
Someone else already called out the Harlan Ellison connection. DC Fontana (who I believe I mentioned in a comment to an earlier Trek reaction) was an uncredited writer on City on the Edge of Forever as well). I’m a bit of a fan of Ellison’s, so some tidbits: he’s written other teleplays, probably available on this web site. There’s an old episode of The Outer Limits called “The Demon with the Glass Hand” and an 80’s era episode of The Twilight Zone called “Shatterday”, which stars a fairly young actor-you-would-probably-recognize. He’s written an almost uncountable number of short stories; one of his most famous is “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream”, which teen-me adored (much older me hasn’t read it in ages, but I suspect it will hold up). He was also a credited consultant on the Babylon 5 TV series, which you may want on your radar. I don’t like it as much as it’s (many) more confirmed fans, but I do like it it it did some genuinely unique things, particularly for the time. Lastly, there’s a documentary on Ellison called “Dreams with Sharp Teeth” which I think is worth watching. Cheers!
6:52 Edith Keeler sounds like a fan of Jules Verne.
Having actually experienced temporary blindness, if only for three or four minutes, Kirk is right, regaining eyesight is emotional. And Spock is right, seeing McCoy right in your face wouod temper the joy a bit.
There is a scene that was filmed but edited out that showed Tommy on the bridge with Kirk. Since Kirk's mother was still alive (according to the book THE MAKING OF STAR TREK) Tommy was probably sent back to Earth to live with his grandmother.
Pretty sure both his parents were alive. The whole "every hero must be an orphan" shtick wasn't a trend then.
@@docsavage8640 No.
Kirk HAD to let Edith go, and I wouldn't be surprised if he took at least a week off and just turned things over to Spock for awhile. On the other hand, constant work is probably therapeutic for someone like Kirk. If so, I doubt there was much chit-chat on the bridge for quite a while.
I first saw Operation: Annihilate around 1970, when so was about 5 years old. It scared the kerrap out of me, because you couldn't talk to or reason with these things. No sign of where they came from, or if there were more. Imagine if other planets had infestations of them, a long way off. It's just terrifying what might happen if nobody knew how to stop them.
Another thing: I always wanted to see what Peter Kirk would be like as an srult. It would be very rough living your life with both parents gone. Jim never saw him again in the show or the movies.
Thank you so much! Wish we could have seen more of his nephew.
What boor01 said, made me hungry, gonna have a fried egg sandwich for lunch! Great reaction Courtney, enjoyed this.
Thank you! The fried egg comment was funny.
The City on the Edge of forever (for most fans) is the #1 episode of all time. I think Operation: Annihilate is a great episode. But but but….. the 2nd season premier is FANTASTIC. Cant wait for you to see it. Also in the top 5 or so I’d say.
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Of course. I have worked with members of the military over the years in various jobs, and I appreciate what they do or what they have done in the past. The truth is, I love analyzing. This is how my brain works. If I didn't do this then I would be much quieter in my videos. Plus, it helps even more with avoiding copyright issues that can come up.
@@CourtReacts-zm9yv that makes sense! I’m sorry I sounded overly-critiquing. I love a good reaction, but it takes build up and analyzation, both of which you do better than many reactors. Thanks again!
I'm glad you enjoyed this episode; it was one of the more interesting episodes in the series. I wonder if you'll ever see the Guardian again? Things that make you go hmmm????
Not MY Guardian!
First rule of Star Trek Club: do not talk about the animated series.
@@matthewt1772 my comment was about Discovery. Who knows which series @rccraig7580 meant?
I wasn't talking about the animated series. In fact, I didn't mention anything about a series. @@matthewt1772
I didn't want to be accused of spoiling anything, so I didn't mention the name of the show and figured she'll discover it sooner or later @@jefetters7182
1x28 is my favourite episode.
oooh city on the edge of forever is a great episode 🙂 ooh that second episode, I had forgotten about it! but it's a good one too.
Star Trek has a really good movie about time travel also, but that's later in your star trek journey. Unless you do indeed decide to skip to the movies, which, I am totally NOT offended if you do 🙂it's up to you how you want to experience star trek. 🙂
When I was growing up, TOS was played in syndication and reruns still.....I grew up in late 80s to mid 90s...graduated HS 1996....I remember in 1987 (the year TNG came out), there was an advertisement for Star Trek: The Next Generation ("TNG") on the back of a Honey Nut Cheerios box, I was nine years old. I was like "oooh, the guy from Reading Rainbow is the engineer! And instead of a Vulcan they have a robot!" I was quite excited lol.
LeVar Burton was definitely a childhood hero 🙂 I loved him on Reading Rainbow, Roots, and TNG 🙂
"islands in the sky, I can go twice as high, take a look, it's in a book, a reading rainbow...." (that was a kid's show on PBS when I was a kid lol. LeVar Burton was the host.)
Ultraviolet is also very damaging to the eyes. Love original Star Trek though!
Kirk's nephew went on to open a restaurant that served fried eggs and pancakes.
Fried eggs inspired by the creatures lol
Edith Keeler did not have to die. They could have taken her with them through the time portal.
Jim. Spock calls him Jim.
I do enjoy your reactions, but I hope you can appreciate this comment. Captain Kirk developed actual love for Edith Keeler. His interactions with most other women are not at that same depth.
In the Trek universe, Captain Kirk only felt deep love towards 3 women. The 1st one from his past appears during the episode Shore Leave, the 2nd here is Edith Keeler, the 3rd is not revealed until you are into the TOS films.
When Kirk holds Edith's hand, it reminds me of Chris Rock's bit on how significant it is for a man to hold a woman's hand.
Don't forget the blonde that Gary Mitchell threw at Kirk back at the Academy, mentioned in the episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before". Kirk almost married her.
I appreciate the comment very much. Thank you!
@@paulsander5433 The Shore Leave script lists Ruth as an old academy love. That would coincide with being that very blonde that Gary Mitchell refers to during the episode of Where No Man Has Gone Before
@@Stephanie-StarTrekFan-is-Muji Perhaps, but another woman named Carol seems to have a claim, too. 🙂 I guess she's one of the three. There was also the lawyer in "Court Martial," but there may be an argument that she doesn't count.
Two episodes in a row without any redshirts killed?
10:54 "You fall in love with someone almost every other episode."
It's not love. Kirk is too much of a playboy for that.
Both of these episodes are on my list of Star Trek episodes that JJ Trek should've expanded into a feature length movie instead of a crappy re-trend of Wrath of Khan! Both of them do a lot for fleshing out Kirk's character and have high enough physical and emotional stakes as is.
"Here am I thinking he only liked blondes" Lol, you clearly need to watch more TOS episodes....he even likes green women.
"The city on the edge of forever"
As great as the story is I wouldn't put this as one of my favorite episodes. Not even the top 5. I enjoyed it more after I watched it numerous times. At first I took it a just another reason for Kirk to push a love story. That said, I like that McCoy gets to Rock🎸
"Operation Annihilate"
This one was middle of the pack for me. Kirk's brother's family inclusion wasn't all that necessary for me. Majel Barrett was eventually married to Gene Roddenberry and when it came down to keeping one of the "hot blondes" she got priority over Grace Lee Wittney. No need to guess who got the gig in the long run.🙄
"City On The Edge of Forever" was written by Harlan Ellison, a famous writer of fantastic literature, television criticism, author of many books, stories, and essays, who won the Writer's Guild of America writing award for his original script for this episode, and the episode won a Hugo Award for "Best Dramatic Presentation."
Harlan also used to tour the country, giving talks on college campuses, science fiction conventions, bookstores, and being wildly popular as a speaker. He died about five years ago now.
This episode is generally considered to be the best TOS episode.
There's lots of trivia that goes with it; just a sample are that the backlot was reused by innumerable movies and TV shows, including THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW; if you look closely at a store window that Edith and Kirk walked by, you'll notice that it's Floyd's barbershop.
Something that amuses me is that Harlan's original script said that the Time Portal was "surrounded by runes," meaning ancient writing and symbology.
But the producers were confused and instead surrounded the portal with ancient RUINS. Oops.
The script was also rewritten many many times before the final version, which Harlan didn't like, was filmed.
Thanks for the fun facts!
Ellison's actual script was such a turkey they had to change almost everything about it. He didn't understand the characters, the setting, or TV budgets. The actual episode is a major improvement on the shinola he wrote. However, I hear he's a good short story sci fi writer. I haven't read anything except a not-very-good Batman comic he wrote.
@@docsavage8640 It wasn't a "turkey." It was written before a single episode had been filmed, and thus Harlan couldn't know about all the constraints.
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