Elevating Miles: Across The Spider-Verse Review
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Thoughts on the brief live action moments?
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Ngl thinking back it kinda took me out of it. Background stuff would have been fine but would have preferred they’d animate spoiler and the other scenes from the movies
I could totally vibe with *spoiler* not being animated because I think they're really trying to make an homage to his huge influence to Miles creation in the comics.
As for the other scenes, yeah definitely could've been animated that could still resemble their original scenes... maybe something like What If art style could've worked there. That and the fact that the youngest of the 3 live action Peters is still not in the movie yet.
yeah I mean in retrospect it wasn’t too odd, but I do think the scenes with *spoiler* just chilling with an all animated background was odd but for the scenes directly taken from *spoiler* they looked good enough, they are clearly taking their own artistic direction here but I would love to see how the community would give these characters their own animated styles
GREAT SARCASTIC CHORUS SPIDER-MAN ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE EXCELLENT 👌
I personally thought it was fine, pretty funny and cool, but it would’ve cooler if they were also animated with a realistic art style like Pixar imo
To me it helps show how many spider universes the are, including the live action trilogies and the mcu, its gonna bring the spider verse and the mcu together
the worst thing about this film is that I am simply not prepared to wait a whole year 😭😭😭
Not a whole year. Just for 9 months.
Hopefully with no delays.
We would likely get a trailer around Fall since it comes out in March
@@michaelstrong5383 girl thats a whole pregnancy!!
@@Aisha_Luv Sony is giving birth
@@Aisha_Luv And that child will be born on the premiere of the next Spider-Verse movie. Lucky kid.
The Spider-Verse franchise is proof that we are not tired of superhero movies, we are tired of bad superhero movies.
Exactly. Like most of Phase 4 ranged from okay to just bad but between this and GOTG 3, it shows that the problem wasn't fatigue, but quality. Blue Beetle looks like another solid Superhero movie
One person can only take so much mediocrity.
@@pedanticat9479that isn't true
@@pedanticat9479most of phase 4 has been good to great with some okay
@@mrstrangeworld5977 phase 4 is decent at best
If I have any nitpicks, and I mean ANY nitpicks, this film ought to have a warning label for those who are prone to epileptic seizures.
That one aside, IT'S PHENOMENAL
That’s the kind of thing that they could still add. Incredibles 2 added it after they got complaints
It's interesting because there was a sign for little mermaid and Guardians 3 about seizure warnings, but nothing for Spider-Man.
There was one in my theatre- but yes the movie itself should definitely have one
I was wondering about that too, it’d be cool if they could edit together a version that’s more accessible for people with epilepsy, though idk how practical that’d be.
For me the very beginning of the film hurt my eyeballs but the rest was fine, I wish they could've edited the beginning part
I love how Miles' parents especially Rio get some deserved screen time in this film because she barely had any dialogue in the original
Calling it now she or Gwen are gonna die in the next films.
Well in the comics miles's mother was killed by Ultimate universe venom and he quit for a year and at the time his dad also kicked him out of the house whe. He found out he was spider-man
@@spiderbro2650 that's been retconned they honestly don't know what to do with Miles in the comics they've been rebooted 3 times
Her speech to Miles was really good. You can tell she really cares about him feeling like he belongs but makes sure to let him know he can always come back, W mom in my book.
@@SyLuX636 Neither. Miles will die. He MUST break the cycle. The third truly heroic option is clear. Plus those aren't options at all...Gwen lives no matter what already confirmed she's getting a solo film, Rio can't because these aren't the comics they're a critique of the comics.
You kill Miles if blood is demanded. Though the story the canon itself is evil to demand such.
One of my favorite things about this movie is the fact that even when Miguel just outright insults Miles' existence, Miles doesn't give an F and keeps going. Sure, it kind of traumatizes him during his swing sequence but he just continues to stand up for himself rather than angsting on it for the third act.
I loved that after he said he wasn't afraid of anything, you actually see him be a lot more stern and measured when under pressure. He's really not taking anything from anybody right now, not even himself.
True true
@@muntu1221 Yes I respect that.
@@muntu1221 He's always been blamed during the whole film and the last
Which is another reason why his mom is the best, she literally gave him all of the details of not getting lost and taking care of that boy that she raised before he left their universe.
Never thought I'd live to see The Spot be a bigger threat to the multiverse than Kang the Conqueror.
I mean Kang in the comics isn't really a multiverse guy he's a time travel guy, there's some overlap between the two with alternate timelines, but the MCU completely blended the two together
And i thought Spot was just going to be a random villain that Miles was going to beat at the beginning of the movie just to have a cool. Oh boy, i was COMPLETELY wrong hahahahaha
Even an insane Biologist is more of a threat than Kang. The MCU is really not doing well with that
🤬frfr. Literally almost every villain seems like bigger threat than Kang because who the hell loses to ANTMAN. It's shameful really Johnathan Majors is a great talent.
@@blkjem21 He lost to millions of hyper advanced ants while his tech and powers were limited. Not too hard to believe he lost, all things considered.
The biggest take away I got from the movie was how they handle 'canon', saying 'this needs to happen', 'this person needs to do', like it's a commentary about how writters keep trying to make Spidey more 'interesting' by piling one more tragedy. For miles to go out against every spider man, most of which are versions of peter parker that have grown content with the idea that they can't save everyone, to me at least, tells me...Spider man doesn't HAVE to be defined by tragedy. Miles lost his uncle, but he still has both his parents, something unique to most spider men, even to most super heroes. Sure spider man has struggles to over come, but we as an audience are just as invested in his win's as we are with his struggles. We WANT good things to happen to spider man.
That's the biggest issue with the current spiderman run, they won't let him be happy for shit.
I really wonder what kind of magic and message they’ll pull out for the third film.
Cause it’s gonna have to be a wild resolution, how to defeat the spot who is almost entirely spots (where back in old times Spider-Man just has to fight him enough until he ran out of spots)
And for Miguel I wonder how his character might redeem himself.
But most importantly, how about the message, how much does it take to change and go against fate.
@@TH_Sofa That's what worries me. I see the metaphor, but how will it be resolved? We saw that messing with canon screws with a universe of that Spiderman and considering what Miguel says, they've seen it multiple times. How could they solve the issue without it being an asspull?
@@helsmify Mmm, yeah to break the conception that Spiderman MUST lose these very specific things....
Miles will have to go above and beyond to save everything.... And on a personal level, I don't think us watchers may be ready to know what he really has to do (and god forbid you know what I am referencing as an ultimate sacrifice).
I think that the third movie is gonna redefine spiderman forever. I mean the first raimi movie redefined spidey by showing that it was uncle Ben who said the line "with great power comes great responsibility" And every incarnation of spidey has been following that ever since BUT in the actual comics, it was never uncle Ben but actually stanlee who said that through his commentary. So I think the third movie will end with such a redefining moment .
I had no opinion on Spider-Man India before this movie, and now I need an entire film trilogy starring him complete with Bollywood musical numbers.
YEAH! god imagine
Love the fact that they choose Dopinder to do the voice considering that he wants to be a super hero so bad 😆
I would kill for this. He was so much fun. He radiated joy and it really sold his performance.
Yes!
Unfortunately it's never going to get made because Mumbattan is full of traffic
Miguel is either wrong or lying to Miles. He's caught in a paradox. Assuming that Miles is an anomaly, he isn't a true Spiderman. Therefore, he should not have a canon event: There is no need to let his dad die to protect the multiverse. Otherwise, If his dad's death is required to protect a Canon event, then it means Miles is not an anomaly and is a true Spiderman.
Yea he is wrong about miles not being spider man but tbh i feel like people just want Miguel to be wrong just so miles is right but if I'm being real both are in the wrong miles wants to save his dad but if he does break canon he would basiclly kill his mom,mj,aunt may and so many others for just his dad
I know this comment is old but he also never glitches in his universe so I feel like that shows he’s not an anomaly too ? And Miles’ world doesn’t fall apart after Peter B dies. But I hope your idea of him not needing a canon event is right so we don’t have to see his dad die 😅
I mean bro kinda right if he isn’t meant to be Spider-Man he wouldn’t have a canon event leading to his dads death
Yup, one more thing to add is that while Miguel tried to make It seem like Miles stoping Pavitr's Canon event almost caused The destruction of his universe, If you think about It, that Black hole was caused by The spot and was literally there before Miles stopped The Canon event
I would get the whole canon thing if Miles' universe didn't already have a Peter of its own who went through all the canon shit already, Miles has no reason to be victim of these events
Miles and Gwen are a LOT cuter here than in the first film, not that their portrayal was bad!! It’s just that you get to see their relationship through *both* of their perspectives. In the first film, we only see Miles crushing on Gwen since the story is primarily told by his point of view. We get some instances of where Gwen seems like she might be interested, but nothing fully concrete, and the end really painted it out as the two “just being friends.” But as SOON as the new film opens up, we get a glimpse into Gwen’s perspective of the first film, and you could absolutely see her regret going back and leaving miles. And throughout the entirety of the prologue the second film, we see her absolutely PINING for Miles and that the relationship was indeed very much reciprocated. It’s just that, as we come to learn, she distances herself from people she cares about to avoid hurting them. This is readily apparent when she mentions to Miles, “In every other universe, Gwen Stacy falls for Spider-Man…” And as Miles moves in closer, Gwen notices, and deflects with, “…and in every other universe, it doesn’t end well,” causing Miles to cease his reach. What absolutely pains me about this is the fact that she has access to the Multiverse. So she has probably come across tens, if not, hundreds of the universes with Gwen and Spider-Man. And she more than likely saw most of them ending happily. Rio, Miles’ mother’s words echo through these scenes and likely in the future: “Never doubt that you are loved.” She does love you man. ❤
Damn this comment hit hella hard, Miles and Gwen are both so perfectly written and their relationship is the most I’ve been invested in a fictional relationship in so long, really love them
she probably saw tens, hundreds of universes where versions of her died while loving spiderman which is why she was so afraid.
plus it's confirmed that she is the only spider gwen, so it makes her even more afraid since there isn't any other version that escapes this and that it might be that other versions that love spiderman are dead, or will die. That's why she's telling miles that it doesn't end well. to protect herself, and miles
@@GwenPetrova Not confirmed...Thinks. She's wrong, Just as Miguel is. You'll see that things aren't at all what they appear to be.
I really like Spot, and how while he seemed like a joke at first, he gradually became more threatening as the film progressed. But it was weird how he just disappeared in the second half.
the second half is kind of what brings the film slightly below the first film for me, it kind of feels like a lot of set up for the eventual payoff of the next with not a lot being resolved, still great, but did bring it down.
You're kinda right about that, He just did his own thing after he went god mode but that was to focus of things such as Miguel O'hara and the other Spider-People and it also helped with the plot twist and cliffhanger.
it does make sense as to why he disappeared all he cares about is ruining miles life and he saw a future were he did so why will he still chase miles?
He was finding more places to rob to get stronger
To be fair, he wasn’t the main focus for this part of the movie
Miguel really blamed Gwen for letting miles go even tho every Spiderman in the spiderverse failed to catch him.
he blamed her because she was the reason Miles came in the first place
@@diersteinjulien6773 She wouldn't of visted Miles if Miguel didn't let her join the team.
Pretty sure there is a no fuck other Spiderman rule in the text book or else shit can down the drain fast with Spider kids from diferent Dimension Spiderman people.
We get it. People are on the Miguel hate train while kissing Miles ass 24/7.
@@SyLuX636 You're the hater XD
I just appreciate that these movies are helping remove the stigma that animated films can’t be emotionally powerful and enjoyable to all audiences. I’m still annoyed the Oscar’s have a animated section as if it’s a genre when it’s really a medium for any genre.
It’s also tackling the stigma of spider man himself as a character, challenging the idea of canon for spider men and showing miles who is breaking the mold and being a truly unique spider man
Idk what multiverse dimension you live in but here animated movies have been emotionally impactful for years buddy
@@kaponosucksyes they have been. The op never said otherwise
exactly. hearing my classmates talk about spiderverse is such a breathe of fresh air. you are able to talk about animation without it getting ridiculed for it being childish. this is what i’ve been waiting for!!
@@spoodyR3That “Unique” idea is the reason why I hate ending of No Way Home.
I think that THIS Peter is pretty unique with his Spider Team.
But the plot just like “ No,You are freaking Spider Man you can have freaking friends”.
Fun Fact:
There was a deleted scene between 2099 and Miles when 2099 called Miles the "original Anomaly". Miles responded saying "maybe the real anomaly was the kids we lost along the way...?". Hearing this, 2099 went apeshit as Miles laughed and did the peace out disappearing meme.
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@@mothicroseKskskksksksk 😂😂😂
Wait for real?
Sounds fake but PLEASE GOD LET THIS BE REAL BECAUSE IT SOUNDS FUNNY AS FUCK
Imma need a source bro
Just want to get this outta the way. No huge spoilers
When Spider-Man India (no joke, that’s what he’s called on IMDB) talks about what chai actually means, I got the feeling that that was on someone’s pet peeve list for the longest time. And I respect whoever wrote it in.
Yea even in the trailers that sounded personal
Its even funnier knowing miles gets called out when he himself did the same thing with atm machines
Apparently that was something Karan Soni (Pav's voice actor) added in when the writers asked if there was anything he'd like to contribute to the script.
@@belindaluna2067 Sick.
@@belindaluna2067as another Indian, I myself never thought of the term "chai tea" that odd until I heard 3 times and then realized how annoying that feels 😂
The Spot's fumbling at the start of the movie reminded me of Miles' stumbling when his powers first emerged in the first movie.
And, like Miles, Spot just needed some experience to fully blossom.
I guess they really did create each other in a way, their journey is pretty much the same/very similar.
If the spot turned miles into Spiderman and Miles turned the spot into... the spot, then did spot turn himself into himself?
@@Pixelusually Technically yes. If he didn't create the spider that travelled to Miles 1610 universe (I think that's right) Miles wouldn't have become spiderman and wouldn't have thrown that bagel at him.
As an artist, that dreams of going into the animation industry, I wanted to screen cap this entire movie. Every single frame was an absolute masterpiece, and all deserve to be turned into lock screens.
I aspire to reach the level of creativity and style Into and Across the Spiderverse oozes
I love these films visuals man
as soon as i saw that Miles's red jacket was now purple i was like "oh yeah Miles in this universe is the prowler" but i still just was screaming when it actually happened
I figured it out when I saw it said Universe 42 on the way back machine
I only figured it out when I saw the prowler was A) not miles’ uncle and B) short(er) and skinny
I'd missed that
This movie not only surpasses the original in every way, but it also feels its a meta commentary on the nature of Spider-Man comics and the comic book industry as a whole. The very fact that Miguel is obsessed with ensuring that moments that are literally called "canon events" feels like its taking a jab at how comic publishers/ editors believe that certain status quos must always be maintained along with believing that the only way a hero can grow as a character is by having someone in that hero life die.
Yet Miles serves as the audience surrogate who believes that such thinking is inherently flawed. This don't have to be set in stone, and a hero can grow without needing to kill someone in their life. This is more relevant then ever considering how Kamala death in the current Amazing Spider-Man run is complete bullshit.
YES YES YES I LOVE THE META COMMENTARY ON THE COMIC BOOK INDUSTRY IN THIS MOVIE!! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who picked up on that!
@@Sqwivig Same! Like seriously, the moment Miguel started saying "Canon Events' and began talking about how those canon events need to always happen, I could instantly tell that this is a total dig at the nature of comic books.
Yea! Especially seeing MayDay and Maryjane, knowing that mess the comic book writers put them through to obtain the “status quo”.
So glad the writers here gave a middle finger to that and let Peter be happy
Across the Spider-Verse is one of the greatest sequels ever made imo. That’s a sequel done right. It was Spider-Man’s version of The Empire Strikes Back.
Dead on with the canon and established status quo thing. The only bone I have to pick is "and a hero can grow without needing to kill someone in their life." What's vitally important is how a hero deals with failure. The highest form of failure for a hero is when someone dies on their watch even when they try to save them. That's the thing that Miles has never faced and that's what the canon events mean and why they're important. The growth of trying despite failing is something you can only learn WHEN you fail. How does any spider-person deal with trying their hardest and still coming up short. Not killing someone or letting someone die because they have to.
What's amazing about hobie's "paper-cut out" is that it means *even he himself is stolen from other things/pieces*
The sheer silence in my theater when the last shot happened just echoed my disbelief in the direction they decided to take the movie
People actually stood up and said wtf before clapping when that cut to credits dropped
The moment it said "earth 42" someone went "TURN IT THE FRICK OFF!!" and yet we were still in just disbelief when Miles glitches lol
My jaw dropped when I saw that ending, and my mind opened up a whole lot of interesting possibilities the next film would go into. If the third Spider-Verse sticks the landing (and I don't see why it wouldn't), this may go down as one of the absolute best trilogies in the history of movies itself.
@Dapper Dabber the moment Miles glitched I actually shouted "literally wtf" and I never do that 😅
Bruh during the end I yelled, "I'm sad now, you can't do this to meeeeee" And the whole theatre heard lol
Just the way the color tones were constantly changing as emotions were developing to suit the scenes between Gwen and Gwen's father was fuck*ng beautiful.
The way the room shifted from being a wreck to the colors filling the room.. My heart
Yes! The best scene imo was when she’s giving her speech and the walls start dripping/crying, and right at the climax it gets washed out to white so it’s basically only her and her dad left. 💯
I like how Hobie and Miles are very similar in the sense they are their own people, although when are first introduced to Hobie it shows very much that he isn’t like any other spider man. Miles knows he’s different but he doesn’t know how exactly while Hobie knows who he is and how he is different. Then in the film Hobie pushes Miles to “Make his own watch” and become his own person as Hobie has already made a watch of his own. That’s why I appreciate Hobie, he was the most honest Spider-Man!
HOBIE MADE HIS OWN WATCH?????? WHAT
@@161friends at the end of the movie the watch he gave Gwen, the pieces of tech he was taking while he was talking helped him create it.
I remember watching this in theaters with a friend like two days ago, and when the spot blamed Miles for his condition I went "I bet he was the bagel guy" to my friend, and as soon as It was confirmed I went, "I KNEW IT! He's the bagel man! **realizing gasp** because he's full of holes :)" and we both had to avoid laughing out loud in the middle of a crowded theatre.
The fact that he was the Nagel guy killed me 😂
if thats the case then whats your prediction for part 2 lol
@@iBeo01 The ultimate weapon to defeat the spot is gonna be an everything bagel. Just bonk him on the head and it will instantly drain his power /hj
I'm really excited for the next part tbh, I can't wait to see the og spider crew (Noir, Penni, and Ham) again, as well as Spider-Byte and Gwen's new recruits! I really can't wait to see what they do with the spot next, the animation potential for his portal-hole power has such amazing artistic and comedic potential, as demonstrated in the first part.
Everyone expected Hobie to be the side character to steal Gwen from Miles, but he's actually one of the fewer ones to clearly help miles
I am completely blown away with how much love, professionalism and talent that went into this film.
This is one of those films that you have to see it in theaters at least once. You won't catch every little detail but what you do catch is just amazing.
Like the fight between Miguel and Miles. Miguel had more experience than Miles, but one thing that Miles does have is the element of surprise. Miguel does not have spidey sense, so he gets caught off guard with sneak attacks and he can't react as fast as the other spiderman. Miles seems to be aware of this and only attacks from a distance or trying to get away from Miguel. Until he builds enough strength to send Miguel downward towards the other spidermen.
They could have easily gave Miguel spidey sense, but they stayed true to the comics and ir made for some interesting and unique fight scenes.
I also just realized. "With Great power comes great responsibility." How can you really call yourself a hero if you are okay with letting someone die to serve the greater good. When you have the responsibility to protect all, at the very least try to help people.
These Spider-Man animated movies are truly taking animation to the next level and never fails to continue inspiring other studios. They made it better than the first one, which a near impossible feat in on itself, and pass in flying colours. Absolute mad production!
The great thing about this film is even if you aren’t a Spider-Man fan, you can appreciate the incredible animation
A true work of art
Yeah, being a Spider-Man fan is just a bonus! Though I expect this film to result in many folks becoming Spider-Man fans
I loved the part where Miles was going up the stairs to the party to the music.
I'm a Spider-Man fan and an animation nerd, and this was such a masterpiece.
I’ve loved the first spiderverse despite not really being a superhero fan in general! It is that good.
@@theapplehouse145prequel?
The bits with Toby and Andrew actually stunned me into silence. And I really loved how the first 15-20 mins were all about Gwen. Her ballet style movement is so graceful and appealing to watch, because it works so well with her white, pink and black outfit, fly like a butterfly sting like a bee works for her perfectly. The Vulture was phenomenal, the art style made my jaw drop. And Spots power and design was actually super creative and the more I thought about it and the further i got in the movie the more overpowered and broken I realised his power was. The end credits with him Vs Miles with Spot a Kaiju sized monster was so badass.
in my opinion the ending is absolutely CRAZY, finding out this twist made me feel things just as much as any final fight could, and Spot definitely earned an entire movie dedicated to trying to stop him rather than a 20-30 minute final act
Just got back from my 2nd viewing and only now realising that this segment (07:05) from the 1st trailer wasn't even in the movie & is probably actually from Part II. By the time I stop being hyped the next trailer will release and then before I know it I'll be March
I love how natural the ending is specifically Prowler mile's earth when Miles reveals to Rio he's spiderman she just plays it off as a joke and tells him they both have bigger things to deal with. Then we see Aaron is alive here...but there's something off about him from his eyes to the way he helps Rio. Than he talks to Miles like he always would but than he notices that things are different and when he talks to him about robbing a place you can see that he can tell somethingis wrong. Than we're on the roof it's not the same bright community we saw before. It's dark and cold and whatever light we see isn't warm and inviting it's intimidating and hot like it can burn you. After Miles gets knocked out and we're in the apartment Aaron looks at him
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Prowler Miles doesn't disprove Miguel's statement to MC Miles being an anomaly, but actually proves it. Since more than likely Prowler Miles like it was mentioned was supposed to be Spiderman there. Lending credit to the line that there's a universe without a Spiderman thanks to MC Miles. Next its not the fact that Miles Morales isn't suppose to be Spiderman, its that Specifically, Earth - 1610 Miles Morales as the Movie puts it, is an anomaly that wasn't suppose to be Spiderman. I think hitting hard and giving more credit to his mothers line about being where people love and want him there.
I think what makes it hard to believe that Miguel is right in any way is how off-putting and brooding his character is in the movie, he actively blames Miles for something that was ultimately not in his control and that wasn't his fault, he didn't chose to get bitten and he wasn't the one to create the collider in the first place, he was the product of an accident that he had no way knowing would be so critical to his life.
@EIite
it's Miguel's character being that way due to his own experiences that lend credit to Mama Morales line of "Be where they want you." I'm not justifying Miguel, but he is right. He's going about things the wrong way, though, which brings up her line from the trailer. "We're supposed to be the good guys". While not being a Villain Miguel is the antagonist of the movie. While also being what Miles needs to solidify himself to be himself despite everyone telling him how things should go or keeping information from him.
@@thevaliantone8270 I don't believe he's wrong, I simply believe his methodology is, ultimately it really depends on what they do in the sequel as we lack any further evidence for what would happen regarding the canon event concept beyond the two occurrences shown.
@EIite
Then you're pointing out his way doing things is wrong, right? Miguel, that is. To that, I do agree with, and even in my previous comment, mention that Miguel is essentially the antagonist of the movie. That's his role in the movie due to being a more hard boiled Spiderman. The one that will always put the needs of the many over the few which is what makes any Miguel O'Hara Spiderman their respective self.
It is wrong how Miguel is doing things but at the same time is needed for the sake of Miles story and maybe development in Miguel's own story too.
@@thevaliantone8270 Yeah pretty much, I do hope they go the route of not really redeeming Miguel (there's not much to redeem because he's not really a villain more just an antagonist to Miles story) but more for them to reconcile their differences and gain a respect for one another, how they do that I've no idea, but eliminating Spot is definitely a starter to that, we'll have to see how that goes.
Gwen loves miles so much the scenes with both of them are just great they really mesh well together and the writing for them is great
This is the Two Towers of the Spiderverse films, and part of that means having the hardest job. ITSV was the Fellowship of the Ring, a total game changer that took us into new territory and hyped us up for what could come next, BTSV is being set up as the epic conclusion where this has all been leading, and thus ASTV is stuck in the unenviable position of 1) meeting everyone's expectations (which it did) 2) introduce us to a bunch of new characters while giving the appropriate amount of attention to our original cast (did it), 3) provide sufficient heightening of stakes to justify its position as connective tissue between the first and third movies (did it). This is a freaking phenomenal piece of art and it's going to be real hard to top this year for animated films - Nimona, Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken, Wish, the ball is in your court.
IT'S MOONLIGHT SONATA MOVEMENT 2
This movie was simply awe-inspiring, it is literally my favorite movie ever. I loved every second of it!
So if, from Miguel's POV, Miles is an "Anomaly", wouldn't all of his actions and the events that occurred afterwards count as anomalies, such as oh idk HELPING PETER B. PARKER WORK UP THE COURAGE TO GET BACK WITH MARY JANE?
If every event since Miles becoming a Spiderman wasn't supposed to happen, doesn't that mean according to Miguel's whole status quo thing, that Mayday shouldn't exist? Peter B. would've never had his "leap of faith" moment without Miles at the end of the first movie. The man was fully prepared to DIE to stop Kingpin.
Just some food for thought :)
I wish we got more Animated Marvel/DC Movies could you imagine a Batman Beyond movie in this style?
That would be so fucking hype bro
Or even a full fledged batman movie that we haven't gotten yet we have 2d animated movies but only dvds but I want an big budget fully flesh out theater animated batman film
Funny thing is, awhile ago I actually heard rumors of them developing an animated Batman Beyond movie. It was even supposed to be DCs answer to Spider-verse.
Couldn’t agree more with you, my friend. We need more animated Marvel/DC movies like Spider-Verse. Batman Beyond with the Spider-Verse art style? Take my money!
This art style would also fit for animated movies of Fantastic Four, X-Men and The Flash.
My biggest complaint is that miles is the only one of all of this multiverse of spidermen who isnt ok with allowing people to die for “character development” in cannon events. This seems like something that is fundamental of the character of spiderman no matter what universe, that they would do everything they can to prevent others from going through the trama that they endure and I cannot comprehend other versions of spiderman we know and love being complicit in Miguel’s actions and beliefs
I think we do know that canon events can be stopped and the movie told us this explicitly. When Gwen traveled to miguels universe, she left (which wasn't supposed to happen), and her dad stopped being captain. Presumably, I think the movie is trying to point out that this CHANGED a canon event, but the universe still exists. Gwen realizes this and its why she decides that she is going to form a team to help miles and stop miguel. Think about it unless gwen had proof that canon events can be changed, why would everyone join her in the end.
I was honestly kind of surprised at how much better the animation was then the first. I literally didn't think they could perfect it even more, but they did!!! So excited for the last part!! 😆😆
I absolutely loved the therapist part of the movie 😂 Little nods like that are everything to me
Imagine if Bully Maguire came across Miguel
My main nitpick with the film is that it acts like that Miles is the ONLY spider to not immediately side with the Spider Society. It feels like a cheap effort to make him more special in comparison to everyone else. The movie expects me to believe that most spider people would just let someone die, but I don’t buy it.
Hopefully, Part 2 expands on this somehow, because I really don’t like narratives that make other characters look worse in order to lift up the protagonist.
Spiderman is about sacrifice for the greater good, his whole journey starts with uncle Ben dying.
I think most had no idea about their own "canon" events considering the one Miles messed up shows that world's spider confused when everyone shows up. (He had no idea even though he's part of the team). I think Miguel is the only one who knows for sure and doesn't tell anyone, he only told Miles because he clearly hates him.
@@nerdycurls6253 I disagree strongly. Uncle Ben's death first and foremost was a lesson to Peter about personal responsibility. Evil can only triumph when the good stands aside and all that.
Which is why no character that can call himself Spider Man would ever be on board with blindly accepting deaths coming as a result of a poorly defined metaphysical concept. He would fight G-d himself if he for some reason were to believe in his heart of hearts that what He does isn't just or good.
What about Hobie? He seemed to be completely on Miles’ side
The thing is, to join the spider society, Miguel has to agree to let you in and he’s probably filtering spider people that might be too against the cause or the way he sees things and just like Gwen at the end of the movie, spider people that step too out of line and go against the establishment, then they get sent home and kicked out of the club
@@fillosof66689 Why are people seemingly overlooking that they are operating under the notion that if the canon events don't happen the entire reality collapses? I'm not saying that's actually what's happening but as far as the Spider Society (largely Miguel) believes, saving that one person's life WILL cause the destruction of that reality. Like I agree that it's poorly defined (intentionally so but I'll get to that) but it's not something you can really test. And if it really is the case, TRILLIONS of lives are lost (because it's not just that Earth but the whole universe).
I think the writers made the situation somewhat ambiguous so that there's leeway for Miles to be right or at least that there is some way for some reason he can save his father. Because if the canon event idea is something that's like set in stone and completely true, then Miles would be in the wrong to try to save his father at the expense of his reality (which would ultimately kill his father too).
Like it's great to say that one would refuse to give up a single life but the reality of the situation as it's presented is that doing so jeopardizes EVERYONE. It's not simply fighting fate to save that person's life, it's the consequences of doing so, what will happen if they do.
Again, I'm not saying that canon breaking = destruction of reality IS actually true but that's what they think is the case.
To reiterate, the main issue at hand as it's being presented here is not "We should fight "fate" and save this person", it's "Saving this person WILL result in destruction of reality". It's portrayed as something "non-negotiable".
I need to give a standing applause to the production team and everybody involved on this legendary movie.
It is the definition of what art means and it's beautiful.
I’ve already seen this movie the day before the wide release and I’m trying to see it twice more god it’s amazing. It is the best Spidey movie period. CAN YOU BELIEVE THEY WANT TO MAKE A LIVE ACTION MILES?!?? WHY?!?
This film is filled with so much Exaggerated Swagger of a Black teen when Miles jumps off the train.
This movie was simply fantastic from top to bottom, never did I think the Into the Spider-Verse could be topped in terms of story, animation, and overall hype. Yet here I am buying my second IMAX ticket to see this film again! I reviewed the film on my channel with my colleagues, and I feel the same exact way going in for my third watch as I did for my initial one in terms of enjoyment. THE BAR FOR ANIMATED FILMS HAS BEEN RAISED AGAIN!!
I was freaking out in the theater. My boyfriend was the one to get me into the spiderman world and he was recently complaining, along with a ton of other people, about how the spider story is tired. We never see them grow up or be adults. Hole is literally the plothole in the Spidey multiverse keeping the status quo. My boyfriend hasn't watched it yet and it's eating me inside. I LOVE THIS MOVIE SO MUCH
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yeah miles is probably the best ‘spiderman’ in this movie, but hobie is absolutely the best homie
I was so mad when the movie left off on a cliff hanger, like I understand why it had to, but I was just so focused on the movie I didn't even think about the time. The amount of 'wait what?'s and 'no way's I heard at the theater shows how much people wanted the movie to keep going.
I shouted out "Why a cliff hanger?"
Everyone in my theater just yelled AW COME ONNNN
@@insertunoroginalnamehere6189 I did I did
I saw it in theatre and I didn’t even NOTICE how long it was until it cut off with that one reveal and all our jaws were ON THE FLOOR
I love it so much I'll drag my dad with me to go see it a second time
I'm glad that you are more open to the idea of the canon event explanation not being complete. A lot of the reaction I've seen online really wants to nitpick that aspect as a *huge* plot hole that brought down the movie.
I think it's totally fair considering how the canon event being shown actually happened in the first place. But considering this is a two-parter, I will reserve my judgment for now. Don't get me wrong, I will definitely call it out if they ended up doing nothing about it.
i also thought it was fascinating how the conflict kind of mirrors into the spiderverse's. miles and kingpin both were willing to risk anything to protect their families
I love how Gwen’s arc through the movie works as a queer allegory. Hiding half of who you are, you feel like you can’t talk to the people that matter most in your life? Yeah, that’s something a lot of queer people have worked through, and seeing her dad accept her as Spider-Woman just brings it full circle for me. I don’t think it matters if it’s intentional on the part of the filmmakers, its just a beautiful story regardless
Someone also pointed out how the scene involving Gwen and her father are coloured with the trans flag (pink, white, blue).
There is also a "protect trans kids" poster on Gwen's room (though it's quite a blurry detail and I only saw it because a website pointed it out).
@@devofficialchannel her dad also wears a trans flag patch on his coat, imo it makes perfect sense why so many see her as trans (myself included) but the reason I didn’t bring it up is just because I don’t want losers trying to fight me in the comments lol
@@Enndorii What's more exciting is that this time, they didn't censor out the "protect trans kids" poster or the trans flag pin on George's uniform. Like I was surprised to watch it in my cinema and see that those details were left uncut (I still live in a country where LGBTQ+ is still stigmatised and any reference to it is censored out or banned in films). Seeing the movie rated "all ages" and also have those details intact was relieving (though I never point it out to other people out of similar fears of assholes complaining).
This movie BLEW ME AWAY
Oh my goodness it was epic
Yes I loved it
I really liked this movie, but my big critique is how miles is the only one that stands up to Miguel. I understand that’s the story they’re going for, but I just don’t buy that that many spidermen would ever be on míguels side, he said it himself in this video that refusing to let good people die is core Spider-Man, so it’s weird that they say pretty much every Spider-Man in the multiverse except miles is willing to let people die. I agree with Miguel caring about canon, but not with that whole massive spider society caring about it. Maybe in the next film it will be revealed that Miquel was lying to all the spidermen or something, and most of them don’t even know about the canon events part
Miguel was wrong the initial anomaly wasn't miles but the spider
I also like that a lot of time is put into the hero’s trying to save people. The MCU and a lot of the DCU forgets that what makes these hero‘a good, people to look up to is that they value the lives of others.
I loooveeeddd Miguel!!!
Him wanting to keep the multiverse safe due to his guilt of destroying one universe makes him sooo endearing to me. And the fact that he has created a team makes me believe that he (like every other spider-person) feels really lonely otherwise I can't see such a control-freak wanting to work with other people willingly.
He gave reluctant dad energy and I loved every second of it!! His chemistry with everyone was pretty fun too, especially Peter B. Parker.
I hope we get to learn more about him in the sequel, and maybe, hopefully, he gets the chance to redeem himself. I really hope his relationship with Miles works out, the kid was so happy to meet him, he even called him uncle in Spanish😢 , cmon Sony don't make your two main Latino characters beat each other up!!
One last thing, with Miguel being feral, intense and a bit awkward the internet girlies and queers have gone insane for him so that's always nice!! The fanarts they make for him are immaculate!! It's what he deserves 😌😌
I loved him too! And he is so understandable. People are treating him like he is unreasonable but what he did cost not just his family, not a world, a UNIVERSE and everything and everyone in it. And it wasn't even his. They would be happy and fine if he never stuck his nose in there. The loss is simply unfathomable. There isn't a Spiderman there that has the magnitude of death on their shoulders and that kind of guilt, if with great power comes great responsibility he has the greatest responsibility of them all because he's the only one that understands what that's like. I get Miles, but honestly if he is wrong there is nothing to fix what would happen, and he would doom an entire reality, sacrifice people that love their family as much as he loves his an infinite amount of times over. Now I don't blame him, he's 15 and that's his dad, I think he's doing the right thing to try as Miguel is so downtrodden he hasn't even looked into if there is another way, but man oh man do I see where Miguel is coming from and I love that.
I have only two problems with this film:
1. The first fight with Volture is a bit too long
2. They really should have ended the film on the 3 shots of Muigel, Miles and Gwen. I like the Prowler ending, but as you said, you can feel that the movie doesn't know where to end things
Sat stunned in my seat during the entire thing. Everything about it was great.
This film was remarkable in every way imaginable. Watched it with my siblings and i probably liked it way more than they did. The difference being that I take far more information from a film than them; the screenplay, the editing, colours, cinematography, framing and composition - always looking for these and Across the Spider-Verse hits 100 in all categories. It's only natural I'll leave the theatre smiling from ear to ear.
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It was in the trailer that it was a part one, I feel like anybody who was surprised shouldn't be.
I would like to say that personally I see our Miles as a different type of anomaly. Because factually speaking he really is an outlier, the other universe spider was meant to bite 42 Miles, however I think it’s a blessing that our Miles was bitten instead BECAUSE he doesn’t let fate tell him what to do, it quite literally shaped him into a better character. The other side of this anomaly argument is also 42 Miles. 42 Miles I personally see is a realistic possibility if Miles didn’t experience the growth he got in Into The Spiderverse. And though it’s only speculation, the aesthetic and behavior and obvious hardening of 42 Miles’ heart is something I could see happening if our Miles dealt with his issues the wrong way.
Now this is only an opinion so I don’t expect anyone to really agree.
I did think it was a little weird that they tried to play miles going to the wrong dimension as a twist when they clearly showed on the control panel that he was going to Earth 42
wait... so basically
if the spider didnt bite miles and was in its own universe, then prowler miles wouldve been spider man and if the peter parker still died, our miles wouldve been the prowler?
Yeah, pretty much.
The movie was AWESOME‼️ I already saw it twice 🥹 the first spiderverse was already my top 5 favorite animated movies ever but Across the spiderverse may just squeeze into my top 5 as well. Hopefully part 2 will also ALSO be in my top 5 👀
What an amazing movie. The visuals, from animation quality and art style, to the beautiful colors and slightly comic book styles, and the various art styles for different universes. The music, goddamn the music hit. Metro Boomin prod. the soundtrack (insane,) plus whoever else produced/wrote the actual music scores used in the sequences. The remixed Prowler score was ON POINT... Miguel's design as 2099 was lit. His electronic-webs, his bulky and brooding build, the SICK color scheme, the prowler-esq claws and the arm blades, everything. His VA is also on point. You really get the feeling that this is a man concerned with the safety of everything, down to the molecules, and is willing and ready to make the hard choices and willing to be the "bad guy" so long as its for the greater good. As pointed out, while you def dont have to like him, its easy to see HOW he got to the point of being a much colder man, he's been thru shit and seen the story unfold before. Ofc, Miles being himself, being relatable to people of all ages, sex, color, background, etc. From his origin story and journey to figuring out simply HOW to Spiderman, to his journey of figuring out how he as Miles, fits into the mask to be himself, rather than being "another Spiderman." Being someone who will stand up and FORM his own destiny, rather than let everyone else tell him how he should live. He is the hero of this entire story, despite what everyone else tries to tell him. All other Spiders--even Gwen, (who frees herself of the constricted mindset of Spiderpeople as the movie continues,) can no longer be quite seen as "Friendly neighborhood Spiderman" to the audience since they so easily just gave up once they were told that it cant be done, and theres no different possible outcome. Miles is the only one to stand up to the odds, and he is DESIGNED to be. HE is the one "anomaly." Miles is the one who doesnt have a story--
so he can make one. He is the one destined to change the universe, as he was never supposed to exist. Miles being the original anomaly, the difference, the extra puzzle piece that DOESNT fit into the standard equation, is what makes him fit so well and BE Spiderman. It is what makes him, imo, the best Spiderman. He's a relatable young kid, who struggles with family and finding himself, alongside everyone else telling him what to do and what his life should be, since he's the "extra" that doesn't belong.
In all, I fucking love(d) this movie, alongside the whole Spiderverse franchise. Masterpiece of animation, music, storytelling and character development, and all from a "simple" concept of superheroes. And, as much as it pains me we have to wait a year for the next installment of this masterpiece, I'm all for it, especially Miles x Gwen. Its pretty obvious that they're in love with each other(to some degree) but have no idea how to express those feelings towards one another, how to make it work, how to NOT worry that something bad would happen, and ofc the issue that they're superhumans. It drives this movie so well for me, even when theres no high flying action. Even though we didnt get anything official on them aside from their romantic tension, I'm glad that the writers are smart and making it take time and allow for conflict and emotions to build, rather than just rush them into a relationship without expanding upon it first. It feels more natural this way.
The Spiderverse series is a perfect 20/20 rating, with 2 back to back 10s in my book.
P.s.: My fault for making a whole ass essay🤣 This shit really just got me in the feels as to WHY I adore these movies so much, and what makes them fantastic. If u read this entire thing, I appreciate your time and apologize for taking it😅
The line Uncle Aaron says in the first movie sums up Miles perfectly: “you’re the best of all of us”.
Miles has the audacity, carefree spirit, and wit like Aaron to do his own thing, while understanding the responsibility and importance of follow-through of his father, Jeff.
While he also wasn’t intended to be Spiderman without the Spot’s intervention, he’s not the anomaly. He’s someone impacted by the true anomaly, which is the Spot and the other scientists working to breach the dimensions.
Without Spiderman, we see Miles could become the Prowler, and with Spiderman, Miles could be a modestly successful young man doing his own thing.
As Spiderman, though, he can do something incredible.
I honestly didn't know it was a part 1 going into it, and honestly feel that's a strength. Yes, it's long, but I was enthralled the it that I hadn't realized how much time had passed and was shocked at it ending as it did.
Your closing music is so good for this franchise I was surprised it wasn't part of the OST. I love listening to you nerd out about things you like. 10/10 quality content.
Yeah but it feels so out of character for peter b. to let someone die, in the first movie he literally says "its not about saving everyone, its about saving one person"
It took 4 months but I can finally watch this video. And to find out that this is only part 1 kills me.
The other universe Prowler (Miles) I think, is also a nod to the Spiderman Miles before these movies. As the Miles in that universe kinda acts how the comic Miles was.
❗spoiler❗
After the movie ended I was so crushed by the "to be continued" 😭
I knew that was gonna happen with how things were playing out in that scene, but it's still SO annoyingly good XD
plus I just REALLY wanted to know what would happen next
aaand it was my first time going into a cinema again after about 3-4 years due to it's high price, but it was more than worth it ^^
This movie is so good that it almost makes me sad that I cant experience it for the first time again. the wonder, excitement and the raw emotions that come from this movie are both inspiring and soulcrushing.
Somehow Spot makes for a better Multiverse of Madness villain than Wanda ever did.
Yes you got your point across move on dum dum
another detail I just realized. remember how all the spider-variants' spider-senses go off when they are near each other? O'Hara is the only Spider-man who doesn't have spider-sense further separating him from the rest.
I am hoping that the villains in the universe where Mile's spider was from are actually anti-heroes, or at least some. I can imagine Kingpin killing or ordering the hit on mile's dad, and the uncle turning on kingpin as a result, teaching Miles how to become the Prowler for revenge. I can also imagine that universe's Doc Oct turning against Kingpin as they were in rather shaky terms with each other in their partnership in the original movie. Plus apparently her and Aunt may were friends at one point. It's possible in this universe, Kingpin won thanks to no Spider Man but doing so burned several bridges with other villains and now they're all gunning for him. Either way it is definitely a more gritty dark universe and oh boy I am so excited to see what happens.
Watching again today but this time with the homies can't wait to see there reactions especially the ending 🤣 they would have came with me to watched it the day it dropped but they were playing street fighter 6 which i don't blame them 🤣 the moment i went got home i immediately turned on my ps5 and started playing with them
One of the fun details i think no one noticed is SPOILERS
When 2099 says miles is “the original anomaly” and miles glitches, it flashes in miles first spiderman costume and then into 2099 from the end credits as they are both anomalies
I caught the og costume but not end credits 2099
1:34 i was not. i was not emotionally ready for it. (sobbing)
8:12 *gasp* big kratos energy
also isn't Spiderman 2077 the only spiderman who made himself spiderman?
3:25 yeah. its not like they ever said "this is the new spiderman now, this is how spiderman is and always should have been, and will be for the foreseeable future" like when this concept is done poorly *cough* Velma *cough*
Its just another person who isnt Peter Parker, that happened to get bit by a spider, that *wasnt even from his dimention.*
As I stepped out of the cine I actually commented this: Miguel is completely wrong about miles being an anomaly just because the fact that hi´s auncle diyng was already a cannon event, therefore he is a cannon spiderman. Expanding on that I honestly think that is not a plothole and more a Migel´s error taken into account to showcase how the "You are the wrong" monologue of Miguel is wrong reafirming the theme of the movie of finding your place
My crazy theory is,
Miguel trying to stop Miles is actually what is suppose to happen in order to save the multiverse, and Miguel knows it, but must keep it to himself.
Thing is, there are worlds where canon events don’t occur, Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy live but it’s not always for the better. One tragedy is replaced with another, basic time altering rules. That could be Miles’ loophole but it’ll be risky.
Love your content, especially the Helluva Boss stuff!
I feel like someone online probably already said what I’m about to write, but…
What if the reason Miguel lost his daughter in that one timeline is because he entered a Universe where Spider-Man was NEVER supposed to exist?
We see at the end of the movie that Universes without Spider-Man CAN exist (Prowler Miles), even if it is by mistake (this is also debatable).
Personally, I think Miles IS an anomaly, the Spider was never supposed to bite him, but I don’t think anomalies like Miles are what disrupt the Multiverse. It seems more like a Butterfly effect, than a major universal disruption.
If anything, I’m willing to bet that Miguel being Spider-Man in a Universe where he never should have been, is what ruined his life. It also falls in line with his ideology and also what Spider-Ham once told Miles…
“The hardest thing about this job is…you can’t always save everyone.”
If the Spider-Man Miles stays in Earth-42, there’s a chance that universe could end up being erased.
6:09 i thought he was gon say ass 💀
Can we talk about How similar TASM2 aka Andrew Garfield Spiderman and Miles' Spiderman in this movie are incredibly similar in almost every way.
The thing that Miguel really needs to do is to let go of his Narcissism. It has seemed to infect all of the others in his little Citadel of Spider-Men.
What I mean by that is that we, the audience, do not experience Peter Parker and his adventures the same way Peter Parker does. The franchise is called "Spider-Man" and all of these fictional characters are just extensions of a Narrative Purpose. It is a story about Spider Man's struggles, Spider Man's Love Interests, Spider Man's family, Spider Man's Enemies, Spider Man's boss, etc. All of them are an extension of Spider Man's story but they do not have proper "lives of their own."
However, if we presuppose that all of these characters are not characters in a story and they are in fact citizens of a completely realized universe then they are people with hopes, dreams, ambitions, struggles, family, friends, etc. that exist outside of Peter Parker and his bullshit...
Well then in that case Canon Events DO NOT MATTER.
Spider Man is a Hero. A Hero who has the Power and the Responsibility to help everyone they possibly can. If he cannot save EVERYONE...so be it. But he cannot run and hide from this.
In the words of a Great Superhero in his own right "If heroes run and hide, who will stay and help?"
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I freaking love the watercolor backgrounds for Gwen’s dimension and the animation! It feels like the animators had fun with it!
One thing that was on my mind while watching the Miguel and Miles scenes was that Miles came from a now ruined universe. The Ultimate Universe (idk what it was called). He was one of the good things that came out of it and he’s probably still canonically alive since the Ultimate Universe has been destroyed (I think, I don’t read the comics. I heard it from somewhere). I was just thinking of comic Miles during those scenes. Idk why, I just thought I’d share and hopefully some people can discuss it or something.
(I may be wrong with my info tho)
This movie was absolutely perfect the colors to show emotion and suspense was flawless, character design on every Spider-Man variant was perfect and the way the movie ended and leading up to it was so amazing
This movie was fire also to note the amount of emotion you can see through Gwen’s mask is amazing I hope the animators really got paid overtime
I mean Miguel tried to say miles was the original anomaly but that doesn’t make since when taking into account Miguel tried replacing himself in a dimension where he died and had a family…..if anything that would’ve made Miguel the original anomaly……maybe miles being Spider-Man wasn’t supposed to happened but if anything all it did was create a new canon for his dimension
Miguel is the anomally. He is the Spider-Man who ran away, who gave up, who allowed defeat to corrupt him. A REAL Spider-Man would have griefed his daughter and doubled down on being Spider-Man to prevent anybody else from having to suffer such loss. Miguel pulled a Rick Sanchez, ran away from his loss to a universe where his daughter was still alive and he was dead, leaving his original universe in a spot of trouble in the process. That is what destroyed his universe. Giving his fanatical character, I would not be surprised if he caused the death of the alternate Miguel he replaced.
And now, he is forcing all the other Spider-Men (and -Women, and -Animals and -Cars) to stop being Spider-Man (etc...), forcing them to just sit by and watch as innocent people die, without even trying to save them. Nothing is more Not-Spider-Man than that. He would be the one doing the actual killing, if it served his Head Canon events.
If he was not so convinced that he really is doing the right thing, I would have suspected, he has a doomsday button on his large multiversal panopticon console so that he can erase universes where Spider-Men defy him to "proof" that his canon dogma is true. But he guinely believes that not following the Canon causes the collapse, there is no need for a doomsday button. He guinely believes, he's the good guy.
I'm actually glad I didn't know this was a part one. I left the theater BUZZING, and am still hype 2 days later.