The beauty of this documentary is only topped by the resonant glory of Dick Cavett's narration. I have worshipped him from childhood when I watched his late night shows. My parents would watch Johnny Carson in their bedroom, and I would watch Dick Cavett from the tv in the library downstairs. His interview with Katherine Hepburn is a masterpiece of tact, patience, respect and intellectual treasures.
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Do NOT WORSHIP ANY man. Idol WORSHIP ... I'VE always been FOND of him...as an interviewer / commentator ... . Thou shalt not put false gods before you .
They portray Evelyn Nesbitt as a "woman" but she was really just a child when she met White. Her mother was a horrible woman who shoved her beautiful daughter into any dangerous situation that might mean money - admittedly, they were hard pressed and dirt poor - and she pushed her into marrying Thaw, after White had tired of her (or maybe just couldn't afford to keep her in style anymore), and Thaw was nuts and had a mother who made Evelyn's look like an angel, and Evelyn spent time stuck in their Pennsylvania mansion, basically under lock and key, with Thaw and his mother. In her later years, she became an artist herself, and if my memory serves, even taught art at some university. I'm just glad she was able to maybe find some happiness at last.
I am friends with one of the White great-grandsons and spent a few weekends years ago helping them do some maintenance work at Box Hill. A lovely and slightly quirky family.
Watching 'The Gilded Age' right now on TV. So great to see New York showcased during it's exuberant 'teenage years' when experimentation and gaudy glory came to define a people.
I just started watching and I already know I'm watching something very special. This video made me feel special today, thank you, I feel terrible for thee tragedy. I am glad I watched this.
@Strollmanx I didn't know that. Yes it takes all kinds. There are pedophiles around every corner. I've been exposed to my fair share of them. Yuck!!! There still is the haves & the have nots in 2023. Great documentary 👏.
What a fabulous documentary! I lived in Manhattan FIFTY years and yet I never knew where the original Madison Square Garden had been (and I'd been in Madison Square many times.) Now I live in Colorado and when I visit my friends back east I can't wait to see the James Farley Post Office converted to a far grander Penn Station than was there for so many years. Also, I had a wealthy friend who belonged to several clubs, many of them far more exclusive than The University Club -- but it was my favorite for its romantic glamour -- it's the club I always wanted to go for dinner (in the early '80's) just to be in that dining room -- the food was the least of it -- THIS was a Stanford White building. As a middle class person, how lucky I've been!
It would be nice now and then to see the story of the workmen - carvers, plasterers, stone masons, brick layers, carpenters - who actually did the work for these beautiful buildings. To creat these designs is a talent - to produce the reality of the design - genious.
The Crone Have you seen Ken Burns’ documentary on the Brooklyn Bridge? BTW, I don’t disagree with you, but it’s much easier to discuss (and sum up) history by talking about the artist (who may not have done all the work), the general (who did little or none of the fighting), the composer (who did none of the playing), or the architect (who did none of the building).
Especially in White's case were he would just mix and match designs and styles. The narrators talked more about his self promotion skills then his Architectural skills. I worked with old time stone masons, they could cut and fit stones with just a bag of hand tools. Ask them to lay Brick and they were lost. Also worked wilth Trim carpenter's that did elaborate moldings. A wealthy man saw their work and asked them to build a mansion for him. Thinking the structure would be perfect. After a month they all agreed to call it quits. This video was more People magazine, then a history lesson.
Well that was a lovely slice Of history and the social composition of the early 19th century American experience in New York. I very much enjoyed watching it. Thank you
Dick Cavett - one of a select group of unforgettable voices of my era - audio - equally as valuable to history as video - it demonstrates such a great flavor.
Elizabeth Springs "Bessie" Smith White, Stanford White's wife, was a descendant of Richard "Bull Rider" Smith, the founder of Smithtown, Long Island, NY. James Clinch Smith, an older brother of Bessie, witnessed Stanford's murder and testified at the trial. James later died with the sinking of the Titanic in 1912. Stanford and Bessie are buried in the St James Episcopal Church cemetery in St. James, NY, (near Smithtown), and there is a plaque in the church commemorating the death of James. Bessie died July 4, 1950.
@@monakw the penis on that statue is enormous, I often sit at the red light looking at that statue wondering what it would be like to have such an enormous green bull penis 🤔
Stanford White's taste was IMPECCABLE when it came to designing a Home or Office, but when it came to "DECORATING", that was another story!!!! STRANGE how that works!!!!
That was the style at the time. Stanford White produced beautiful architectural edifices and he intended to fill his homes and those of his clients with beauty from all over the world. Frankly, I’d like a lot more Stanford White and a whole lot less of ‘50’s “Danish Modern.”
Beautiful Buildings. Artistically gifted people are almost always a bit strange in some way to the rest of us. I read this story about him but is mostly was about his relationship with the young model. 14 yrs old. This was very complimentary to him and his talent glad I watched..
Strange? Eccentric? Not so uncommon, but we give them more latitude and use nicer adverbs to describe their behavior. I'm strange and creative, but poor, so I don't get the same space for being different. Down here, It's a costly defect.
A young Stanford White was smitten by a pretty young woman named Sara Delano and she evidently loved him too. He proposed to her and she consented, but Sara's father Warren Delano couldn't stand White and his nervous energy. He nicknamed White the Redheaded Trial and forced Sara to break off the engagement, so she instead married Mr. James Roosevelt. Had White married his first love, Franklin Delano Roosevelt would never have existed.
@@justaroot4315 - I totally agree! Although it stresses me out a little, too. :) I always think about my 4-times-great-grandfather. He was a Captain in the Civil War. He survived the war, only to die of a cold-turned-pneumonia 3 years later. If he hadn't died, his wife and three kids wouldn't have moved around the country so many times, leaving IOUs and packing up in the middle of the night. And if they hadn't done that, they wouldn't have wound up in this tiny town half a country away, where their son met my 3-times-great-grandmother. And I wouldn't be here. There are just so many things that needed to happen for it to turn out this way.
Stanford White was the designing architect for a log built Episcopalian Mission church (St. Andrew's Episcopal) in Chelan Washington, where I grew up. It was built in the 1890s, only a dozen years after the town on Lake Chelan was founded. It is a jewel, rustic and elegant at the same time.
Mr. Cavett, YOU are a treasure of New York. By way of Nebraska, perhaps, but you introduced so many of us to the city good and properly, through your talk show. Thank you!
As a photographer (film & digital) and a New Yorker, I believe there's a spirit to American architecture. Buildings (monuments & interiors) designed by Stanford White, the company he became a partner in, along with many others, is a part of that spirit. The symbolism incorporated in the facades, interiors, the material, the European influences (often influenced by older cultures) resonate with distinction and beauty.
i saw the movie girl on a red velvet swing the thought of that swing still captivates me they are beautiful buildings great care was used when they built those buildings😊
His interior design, I'll admit, was innovative. It was important to bring novelty pieces into Victorian spaces. It showcased worldliness, suggested travel to exotic places and to Europe.
My Grandaughter is doing a history degree. She likes her British history but boy I love American in my opinion it’s so interesting. I send her these to stir her interest
@@TheSeanm102 Exactly. As a matter of fact, the house was a valued historical architecture Cavett was determined to have it rebuilt according to scale combining the original framework and building materials. Due to this effort, the cost was millions of dollars that took years to complete.
This is the story of the greater part of today's planet. For thousands of years, building and art were inseparable, today's world has ignorantly abandoned it. And this has been called 'progress' by many. Sad ....
@Coy Leigh What makes you think that you would have been part of the upper class? Statistically speaking it is more probable that you and your extended family would have been laborers living in an overcrowded tenement. I'm safe in assuming you aren't part of the modern day 1% so pretty sure you would not have been included in the past either. Your comment is incredibly stupid.
. . . diminished, but not erased. New York has always represented the elite. It's impossible that the latest architectural jewels wouldn't dominate the landscape, for better for worse (blocking sun from thousands). Those are today's cathedrals to wealth.
Thank you for posting this! I've just "discovered" Stanford White, and I'm enjoying his life story and his buildings enormously. Funny how so many of the things in White's life parallel Frank Lloyd Wright's "eccentricities."
Very interesting comparison because the private life of Frank Lloyd Wright was just as scandalous as that of Stanford White. But in Stanford White's case, there were many people in New York Society Echelon, who were aware of White's scandalous behavior and simply accepted or ignored it. In Frank Lloyd Wright's case, when he left his wife and children to marry the wife of one of his clients, society turned against him, but he didn't care...he wanted his "Mamah" and he married her and built a home for them away from the gossip of society.
eccentricities? Eccentric? I come down on the side of Evelyn Nesbit who he took advantage of when she was too young. I have a word for his 'eccenticities', but I'm too polite to use it.
We have no conception of our own history. How can one expect appreciation for the art and architecture we consider “old” and other countries think of as “historically significant?!”
If Stanford White lived today he would certainly have found a path in our own time to fame. Great documentary on PBS with Dick Cavett as narrator with class as well..
I regret not seeing featured the exquisitely designed Saint Bartholomew’s Church in the City of New York, an equal in statute, perennial jewel in the McKim, Stanford, and White crown of NYC architectural masterpieces. I was lucky enough to complete a research project on the design, and development of church and structure that revealed unexpected vanguard-esque surprises. Notably, the firm (McKim, Stanford, White) was the first architectural company to hire the female artist Hildreth M to design, install, and complete in its entirety, sacred murals, each laid by hand, designed throughout the nave, chancel, entrance, and Children’s Chapel, in 24 carat gold. The design, execution, and highly detailed work in the space is just breathtaking.
The following quote is by Sam Clemens (Mark Twain) who new Stanford White well. “New York has known for years that the highly educated and elaborately accomplished Stanford White was a shameless and pitiless wild beast disguised as a human being; and few, if any, have doubted that he ought to have been butchered long ago, by some kindly friend of the human race. Under our infamous laws the seducer is not punished, and is not even disgraced, but his victim and all her family and kindred are smirched with a stain which is permanent-a stain which the years cannot remove, nor even modify. Our laws break the hearts and ruin the lives of the victim and of her people, and let the seducer go free. I am not of a harsh nature-I am the reverse of that-and yet if I could have my way the seducer should be flayed alive in the middle of the public plaza, with all the world to look on.”
Evelyn Nesbitt stayed with him at 14, drank too much champagne and woke up with blood all around her. She started crying and he said, “Don’t cry Kittens. It’s all over. You’re mine now.” She tried to secure her future with someone wealthy and Thaw was the only one to actually propose. Thaw locked her in a castle and beat her for days when she finally told him what happened with White. He was schitzo about White, blaming him for baring him from clubs and parties. Personally, I feel worst for Evelyn.
Harry Thaw walked up to Stanford Whitee at the rooftop on Madison Square Garden and shot him. Evelyn Nesbit made a fortune as "The Girl in the Velvet Swing."Thaw was imprisoned in Bloomingdale. His Newport mansions are also magnificent.
Would LOVE to see that portrait...the movie.GIRL IN RED VELVET SWING.is entertaining.....WHITE was a genious.....his architecture.was stunning...and he DID make NY more beautiful....just the ARCH alone is iconic and a lasting monument to his creativity!!!
I just remembered him as an architect first, before i was reminded of the drama and the movie 'the girl on the red velvet swing' that I remember seeing in the past, (even though it was made long before I had seen it) (now you could not pay me to live in The Gotham full of necromancers)
His house in the Hamptons and the pebble dash that he used, it looks like the only way to get the pebbles set in the cement would be by hand since if you tried to apply a lot of pebbles at one time, the pebbles would get cement all over the pebbles, and the close ups you showed, each pebble had no cement on the front of them. That would be an incredible labor to do that.
No, you would just use a rag soaked in a mild acid solution to clean the cement off the face of the individual stones. Wouldn't be difficult at all. Cement dries very slowly.
Many thanks for this great documentary tribute to White. The only draw back is the persistent, irritating giggle in Dick Cavett's voice. He reads every line like he is delivering a snide joke.
Great insight into a fascinating man at a pivotal point in history. Main drawback was difficulty deciphering some of the words. Would have liked to see the interviews captioned as well as the narration.
Those without sin can cast the frist stone, it was a sick situation, and it wasn't the frist time it happened, or is it the last. So life goes on and White died for his sins many many years ago. He was a product of his era, and l remember from Art History studying his buildings. We were also told to watch the Red Velvet Swing to get a better idea of Mr. White. Life goes on, sometimes people with great gifts have great deficits too!
And we all know why those “men” loved swings ;-) He didn’t “die for his sins,” he died because some nut with a gun bought into that whole, “Believe all women!” I would say it was Evelyn that was driven half mad locked up, married to a half wit and hims mommy dearest. Now *that* was a “crowded marriage.” We *still* have mommys in law who are in competition with their daughters in law. Ya know, they “had him FIRST!”
Few things to notice: Stanny was severely in debt, and had been ruined when his Gramercy Park Mansion, filled with priceless artworks, caught fire. Also when an autopsy was done on him, doctors discovered he was about to die very soon anyway. I forgot the illnesses but he was extremely sick and suffered for years. His greatest work Madison Square Presbyterian Church , was completed after he died. He squandered his wive’s inheritance and the builders for his country house were ready to fight because he had not paid them. He was really bad about paying debts
White was nothing, nothing like Trump. Becoming use to money flowing in and spending it and then not having the money, is completely different than having money, deliberately hiring workers, who you k ew would take you at your word and the contract you signed when all along, you never had any intention of paying them, is not at all the same.
@Coy Leigh I hope he is too because he will destroy everything and you white folks will suffer for generations! i do not live in America and so could care less.
It’s not like females had a lot of options, Yk?! And the life expectancy in those days was a hella shorter than it is now. Don’t forget the infant/maternal mortality rate at the time-which has improved so greatly since then the US ranks right around Costa Rica. We’re almost done with the leeches and blood letting medicine saga of the past and now we have the leeches called insurance companies and the blood letting of patient’s wallets called “copay” medicine. Such progress! We should be ashamed to be called a “First Nation Country.”
True! And I'm thinking that he was as manipulative and destructive of his DRAFTSMEN/Drafting Architects/Artisans/contractors, as he was of the young women he raped. (and I have to wonder what sort of MEN he went after...)
Although I have no respect for the rich over the poor and how they managed to get there without a care in the world for who they've stepped on to get there ,I do enjoy looking at the architecture of the Gilded Age. The buildings that have been cared for & those that have been abandoned all over the country as well as in europe. I've watched many as I love the outrageous gaudiness of these people at that time. It Makes for Quite a large amount of Ornate Structures. I would suggest going and looking at the abandoned Widener Mansion. It's a beautiful Structure As well Anyway. Wonderful video. Thank you. Much appreciated.
If you have any interest in Stanny's architecture and life, this is a very good film. Stanny's Great-Grandson Sam and his wife Elizabeth add a personal private touch and the tour around and inside Stanny's LI Gold Coast home, Box Hill, is precious and exclusive. Professors Mosette Broderick, Robt. AM Stern and Andrew Dolkart add good insights, too. Too bad they did not interview the expert author on Stanny, Prof. Paul R. Baker. I recommend you buy his Stanny bio book. What is the name of Dick C's LI Stanny home (see end of film)?
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Thank you, Dick Cavett, for that fabulous and unexpected final tidbit in your closing.
I worked with one of Stanford White's Great Grandsons Peter. This is a great documentary.
So did I!
The beauty of this documentary is only topped by the resonant glory of Dick Cavett's narration. I have worshipped him from childhood when I watched his late night shows. My parents would watch Johnny Carson in their bedroom, and I would watch Dick Cavett from the tv in the library downstairs. His interview with Katherine Hepburn is a masterpiece of tact, patience, respect and intellectual treasures.
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Do NOT WORSHIP ANY man.
Idol WORSHIP ...
I'VE always been FOND of him...as an interviewer / commentator ... .
Thou shalt not put false gods before you .
I'm such an old New Yorker now that this makes me wish Dick Cavett narrated a lot more of these NYC documentaries when he was younger.
You probably remember ken burns’ brother roberts “the sidewalks of New York”
I’ve been looking for it for my collection
I loved his show back in the day
@@toddwieland7664 That is my favorite doc.
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They portray Evelyn Nesbitt as a "woman" but she was really just a child when she met White. Her mother was a horrible woman who shoved her beautiful daughter into any dangerous situation that might mean money - admittedly, they were hard pressed and dirt poor - and she pushed her into marrying Thaw, after White had tired of her (or maybe just couldn't afford to keep her in style anymore), and Thaw was nuts and had a mother who made Evelyn's look like an angel, and Evelyn spent time stuck in their Pennsylvania mansion, basically under lock and key, with Thaw and his mother. In her later years, she became an artist herself, and if my memory serves, even taught art at some university. I'm just glad she was able to maybe find some happiness at last.
Yes, her life was quite interesting.
White drugged and raped Evelyn Nesbit .
What a show .
Thank you to all.
A fascinating piece of history. So glad to see Dick Cavett, and happy he purchased the White home.
Cavett purchased the Long Island home, but it was destroyed in a fire in 1997. He had an exact replica rebuilt, based on memory and pictures.
@@jamesanthony5681 I saw the documentary about that on PBS years ago. It was really good, wish I can find it somewhere.
@@TheNancypoo Same here. Especially since it’s been sold.
Wonderful, Mr. Cavett. Love listening to your voice and clarity.
Grew up on NYC and everywhere i went i loved looking at the different architecture styles.
"No matter how famous you are, you can DEFINITELY get blown-away..."
I am friends with one of the White great-grandsons and spent a few weekends years ago helping them do some maintenance work at Box Hill. A lovely and slightly quirky family.
“Quirky:” Aren’t they all?!
Watching 'The Gilded Age' right now on TV. So great to see New York showcased during it's exuberant 'teenage years' when experimentation and gaudy glory came to define a people.
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Good to see that Cavett is doing great. I remember years ago that I could not convince a NY bartender that I was not Cavett...
I just started watching and I already know I'm watching something very special. This video made me feel special today, thank you, I feel terrible for thee tragedy. I am glad I watched this.
The greatest American architect ever. His work is unparalleled.
Gross. The guy spent most of his time grooming minors.
And yet a sexual deviant, manipulator, and pedophile. It takes all kinds..........
@Strollmanx
I didn't know that. Yes it takes all kinds.
There are pedophiles around every corner.
I've been exposed to my fair share of them. Yuck!!!
There still is the haves & the have nots in 2023. Great documentary 👏.
What a fabulous documentary!
I lived in Manhattan FIFTY years and yet I never knew where the original Madison Square Garden had been (and I'd been in Madison Square many times.) Now I live in Colorado and when I visit my friends back east I can't wait to see the James Farley Post Office converted to a far grander Penn Station than was there for so many years. Also, I had a wealthy friend who belonged to several clubs, many of them far more exclusive than The University Club -- but it was my favorite for its romantic glamour -- it's the club I always wanted to go for dinner (in the early '80's) just to be in that dining room -- the food was the least of it -- THIS was a Stanford White building. As a middle class person, how lucky I've been!
How wonderful that so many of his works have survived. He was a true architectural genius. Such unique beauty. A really nice documentary.
and a rapist
Too bad he was a pedophile!
These structures were built with European immigrants skillmanship. How many laborers today have Masonic ability?
I'm 74 and I remember my father explaining the scandal to my mother.It was salacious for it's day..
Whatever era that may be, adultery is still adultery and it remains a scandal because of its immoral nature and social injustice.
Denise Hall it is still salatious. You should check out this video th-cam.com/video/HPTFjQMsvJs/w-d-xo.html
@@mresstell especially when ones husband and best friend "get together"!
@@karynsuepohlmeier2109 That happened to Shania Twain
Beautiful. And they are still in style today.
It would be nice now and then to see the story of the workmen - carvers, plasterers, stone masons, brick layers, carpenters - who actually did the work for these beautiful buildings. To creat these designs is a talent - to produce the reality of the design - genious.
Got a decent computer or tablet? There is your mission. I agree.
I don't think they built these houses
The Crone Have you seen Ken Burns’ documentary on the Brooklyn Bridge? BTW, I don’t disagree with you, but it’s much easier to discuss (and sum up) history by talking about the artist (who may not have done all the work), the general (who did little or none of the fighting), the composer (who did none of the playing), or the architect (who did none of the building).
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Especially in White's case were he would just mix and match designs and styles. The narrators talked more about his self promotion skills then his Architectural skills. I worked with old time stone masons, they could cut and fit stones with just a bag of hand tools. Ask them to lay Brick and they were lost. Also worked wilth Trim carpenter's that did elaborate moldings. A wealthy man saw their work and asked them to build a mansion for him. Thinking the structure would be perfect. After a month they all agreed to call it quits. This video was more People magazine, then a history lesson.
Well that was a lovely slice Of history and the social composition of the early 19th century American experience in New York. I very much enjoyed watching it. Thank you
I think you mean late 19th and early 20th century.
Dick Cavett - one of a select group of unforgettable voices of my era -
audio - equally as valuable to history as video - it demonstrates such a great flavor.
Not gonna lie I didn't know the guy was still alive lol
Elizabeth Springs "Bessie" Smith White, Stanford White's wife, was a descendant of Richard "Bull Rider" Smith, the founder of Smithtown, Long Island, NY. James Clinch Smith, an older brother of Bessie, witnessed Stanford's murder and testified at the trial. James later died with the sinking of the Titanic in 1912. Stanford and Bessie are buried in the St James Episcopal Church cemetery in St. James, NY, (near Smithtown), and there is a plaque in the church commemorating the death of James. Bessie died July 4, 1950.
I lived in Smithtown when I was a child... all I really remember is the bull statue. And tobogganing 🤣
@@monakw the penis on that statue is enormous, I often sit at the red light looking at that statue wondering what it would be like to have such an enormous green bull penis 🤔
I had gotten a book about the Gilded Age passengers on the Titanic & read about James Smith.
Stanford White's taste was IMPECCABLE when it came to designing a Home or Office, but when it came to "DECORATING", that was another story!!!! STRANGE how that works!!!!
The decorating looks like a garbage heap.
That was the style at the time. Stanford White produced beautiful architectural edifices and he intended to fill his homes and those of his clients with beauty from all over the world. Frankly, I’d like a lot more Stanford White and a whole lot less of ‘50’s “Danish Modern.”
@@tundrawomansays694 Each to their own, right?!
@22:25 you can see the membership of the Players' Club. The first name displayed is Edwin Booth. He was the older brother of John Wilkes Booth.
My favorite is the Martyr's Monument at Fort Greene. That is a sacred place to me. I can not count the number of times I was there.
Beautiful Buildings. Artistically gifted people are almost always a bit strange in some way to the rest of us. I read this story about him but is mostly was about his relationship with the young model. 14 yrs old. This was very complimentary to him and his talent glad I watched..
Strange? Eccentric? Not so uncommon, but we give them more latitude and use nicer adverbs to describe their behavior. I'm strange and creative, but poor, so I don't get the same space for being different. Down here, It's a costly defect.
my great, great grandmother use to word for stanford white as a housekeeper. she relayed fondly to me tales of her eagerly polishing his knob.
A young Stanford White was smitten by a pretty young woman named Sara Delano and she evidently loved him too. He proposed to her and she consented, but Sara's father Warren Delano couldn't stand White and his nervous energy. He nicknamed White the Redheaded Trial and forced Sara to break off the engagement, so she instead married Mr. James Roosevelt. Had White married his first love, Franklin Delano Roosevelt would never have existed.
The Fickle Finger of Fate !
Thank you for sharing this amazing historical fact.
That's amazing!
Love love twists of fate such as that...shows how truly fantastical, magical, and divine some things regarding history can be!
@@justaroot4315 - I totally agree! Although it stresses me out a little, too. :) I always think about my 4-times-great-grandfather. He was a Captain in the Civil War. He survived the war, only to die of a cold-turned-pneumonia 3 years later. If he hadn't died, his wife and three kids wouldn't have moved around the country so many times, leaving IOUs and packing up in the middle of the night. And if they hadn't done that, they wouldn't have wound up in this tiny town half a country away, where their son met my 3-times-great-grandmother. And I wouldn't be here. There are just so many things that needed to happen for it to turn out this way.
Stanford White was the designing architect for a log built Episcopalian Mission church (St. Andrew's Episcopal) in Chelan Washington, where I grew up.
It was built in the 1890s, only a dozen years after the town on Lake Chelan was founded. It is a jewel, rustic and elegant at the same time.
I have seen this beautiful church in Chelan WA. Beautiful. Thx for sharing.
I remember the 1982 movie "Ragtime" where the actor Ian Holm played Stanford White.
newlam new too. I remember that movie, also. Did Elizabeth McGovern play Evelyn Nesbitt the wife of Thaw ?
I thought he was talking about Joe for a minute there ⬇️
Joe-Mama 🤭
Get it…. Yo mama.
Mr. Cavett, YOU are a treasure of New York. By way of Nebraska, perhaps, but you introduced so many of us to the city good and properly, through your talk show. Thank you!
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I don't know if I'd like living during that time, but I'd love to visit to see some of those amazing buildings.
You wouldn't the armpit smell would ruin your day
One does not select the time in which they live. Here, a perfect image of existence irritates you all. Hm.
@@tangoxraysierra”….a perfect image of existence…..” No thanks. I wouldn’t want to be BiPolar at any time.
Nice touch using a contemporary of Stanford White to narrate this documentary. I thought Cavett died years ago.
As a photographer (film & digital) and a New Yorker, I believe there's a spirit to American architecture. Buildings (monuments & interiors) designed by Stanford White, the company he became a partner in, along with many others, is a part of that spirit.
The symbolism incorporated in the facades, interiors, the material, the European influences (often influenced by older cultures) resonate with distinction and beauty.
i saw the movie girl on a red velvet swing the thought of that swing still captivates me they are beautiful buildings great care was used when they built those buildings😊
I really appreciate the works of Stanford White and hope other people Generations from now will to.
Excellent well-done documentary about a very good architect. Thanks for the upload.
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Great program! 💙
His interior design, I'll admit, was innovative. It was important to bring novelty pieces into Victorian spaces. It showcased worldliness, suggested travel to exotic places and to Europe.
Lovely docu. Thank you!
what's up carrot top? lets see those walking sticks baby....
My Grandaughter is doing a history degree. She likes her British history but boy I love American in my opinion it’s so interesting. I send her these to stir her interest
Wonderful! Besides, with an ID like "Pooperscooper," you must be a dog person like me -- a show exhibitor too, perhaps?
How observant lol . Yes a huge dog lover. Sighthound types 9 last count. Rescues. And the American history she’s is seeing is absolutely fantastic x
The thing is, with American history, there simply isn’t very much of it.
What a story thanks for the history lesson
Great Doc! Loved that Dick Cavett was the narrator of this film and loved his story at the very end.
yeah but his house burnt down a few years ago he had to have it rebuilt
@@TheSeanm102 Exactly. As a matter of fact, the house was a valued
historical architecture Cavett was determined to have it rebuilt
according to scale combining the original framework and building
materials. Due to this effort, the cost was millions of dollars that took
years to complete.
Dick Cavette needed to keep his mouth shut. What has he done for New York? Not one thing!
@@fog137 Wow . This really triggered you
@@fog137And you have accomplished exactly what for architecture? Oh of course! *NOTHING.*
Would have loving back then. The Architecture that he came up with is treasured art!
Life for women at that time was constipated beyond impaction. And those “clubs?” Exclusively for men only.
So much of NYCs grandeur has been erased for steel and glass boxes with zero charm.
Joey Suggs Mrs. Jacqueline Kennedy-Onassis warned us about it😥😓
This is the story of the greater part of today's planet. For thousands of years, building and art were inseparable, today's world has ignorantly abandoned it. And this has been called 'progress' by many. Sad ....
SanFrancisco too...
@Coy Leigh What makes you think that you would have been part of the upper class? Statistically speaking it is more probable that you and your extended family would have been laborers living in an overcrowded tenement. I'm safe in assuming you aren't part of the modern day 1% so pretty sure you would not have been included in the past either. Your comment is incredibly stupid.
. . . diminished, but not erased. New York has always represented the elite. It's impossible that the latest architectural jewels wouldn't dominate the landscape, for better for worse (blocking sun from thousands). Those are today's cathedrals to wealth.
"Stanford White's New York" is a wonderful book. By David Lowe (1992).
I've always enjoyed Dick Cavett. I'd have loved this well-done documentary even if I weren't an artist or entranced by New York City.
See if you can find his doc on Tick Hall his place in Montauk. Really good.
Pj did you say you always enjoyed dick?
@@samanthab1923Thanks-I’ll look for that one!
@@tundrawomansays694 Enjoy, owned it for over 50 years. Sold in 2021 for $23.6 mill.
A most interesting production: thank you.
My beloved BRONX Community college
A WONDERFUL VIDEO
Pebbledash (?) Was a popular choice of siding in my small canadian hometown. I think it was based on access to free materials though. Great video
Enjoyed it ! He was so inspirational...
Love Dick Cavett ! ❤
What an exciting time for the wealthy and the creative.
Every time is wonderful if you're creative and wealthy or creative with wealthy patrons.
it's always exciting to be free of Finacials
@@gaslitworldf.melissab2897 So true.
Thank you for posting this! I've just "discovered" Stanford White, and I'm enjoying his life story and his buildings enormously. Funny how so many of the things in White's life parallel Frank Lloyd Wright's "eccentricities."
Why does he have two last names? Isn't one enough?
Very interesting comparison because the private life of Frank Lloyd Wright was just as scandalous as that of Stanford White. But in Stanford White's case, there were many people in New York Society Echelon, who were aware of White's scandalous behavior and simply accepted or ignored it. In Frank Lloyd Wright's case, when he left his wife and children to marry the wife of one of his clients, society turned against him, but he didn't care...he wanted his "Mamah" and he married her and built a home for them away from the gossip of society.
eccentricities? Eccentric? I come down on the side of Evelyn Nesbit who he took advantage of when she was too young. I have a word for his 'eccenticities', but I'm too polite to use it.
@@reggiebenson9172I'll say it for you, "pedophile"
This film is an inspiring document for the ongoing SAVE GOULD LIBRARY preservation effort ! JOIN US !
Howard Charles Yourow so what happened to the library??
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What an amazing video! Thoroughly enjoyed it 🎉
What a masterpiece the Madison Square Garden was. It didn't last long. I think it was about 50 years old when it was demolished.
Look at the original penn station. Dismantled in the ‘60’s. Criminal.
Too bad
We have no conception of our own history. How can one expect appreciation for the art and architecture we consider “old” and other countries think of as “historically significant?!”
i enjoyed hearing the personal note at the end.
If Stanford White lived today he would certainly have found a path in our own time to fame. Great documentary on PBS with Dick Cavett as narrator with class as well..
If Stanford White lived today, he would certainly be sharing a jail cell with Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby.
I regret not seeing featured the exquisitely designed Saint Bartholomew’s Church in the City of New York, an equal in statute, perennial jewel in the McKim, Stanford, and White crown of NYC architectural masterpieces. I was lucky enough to complete a research project on the design, and development of church and structure that revealed unexpected vanguard-esque surprises. Notably, the firm (McKim, Stanford, White) was the first architectural company to hire the female artist Hildreth M to design, install, and complete in its entirety, sacred murals, each laid by hand, designed throughout the nave, chancel, entrance, and Children’s Chapel, in 24 carat gold. The design, execution, and highly detailed work in the space is just breathtaking.
Thank you so much for this most exciting documentary !!!!!!!!
wonderfull program congatulations
The following quote is by Sam Clemens (Mark Twain) who new Stanford White well.
“New York has known for years that the highly educated and elaborately accomplished Stanford White was a shameless and pitiless wild beast disguised as a human being; and few, if any, have doubted that he ought to have been butchered long ago, by some kindly friend of the human race. Under our infamous laws the seducer is not punished, and is not even disgraced, but his victim and all her family and kindred are smirched with a stain which is permanent-a stain which the years cannot remove, nor even modify. Our laws break the hearts and ruin the lives of the victim and of her people, and let the seducer go free. I am not of a harsh nature-I am the reverse of that-and yet if I could have my way the seducer should be flayed alive in the middle of the public plaza, with all the world to look on.”
Thank you, Julie!
He mad bro
Twains observations acute as ever.
He did wonderful work,
What a great series!
Completely absorbing! ❤️👏👏👏👏👍
Evelyn Nesbitt stayed with him at 14, drank too much champagne and woke up with blood all around her. She started crying and he said, “Don’t cry Kittens. It’s all over. You’re mine now.” She tried to secure her future with someone wealthy and Thaw was the only one to actually propose. Thaw locked her in a castle and beat her for days when she finally told him what happened with White. He was schitzo about White, blaming him for baring him from clubs and parties. Personally, I feel worst for Evelyn.
She should have NEVER told Thaw about what happened with White. Some secrets should be secrets for life.
Harry Thaw walked up to Stanford Whitee at the rooftop on Madison Square Garden and shot him. Evelyn Nesbit made a fortune as "The Girl in the Velvet Swing."Thaw was imprisoned in Bloomingdale. His Newport mansions are also magnificent.
Odds are good White drugged Evelyn. What was he doing giving a fourteen year old "too much champagne". Think about it!
@@CajunAdrienne Look White raped her as a 14 year old girl! That's not a secret; that's a trauma.
@@annbush1826 sadly
Would LOVE to see that portrait...the movie.GIRL IN RED VELVET SWING.is entertaining.....WHITE was a genious.....his architecture.was stunning...and he DID make NY more beautiful....just the ARCH alone is iconic and a lasting monument to his creativity!!!
The real story is even more colorful.
There is a story about Nesbit. On obsoleteoddity channel. Evelyn Nesbit. Very well done. This story here gives a more in depth background!
He was a rapist of young girls and got his brains blown out for it.
How tf am I watching this, i took a nap for an hour and woke up to this
This is absolutely fascinating. I'm surprised there are no references to Ragtime, the film.
I just remembered him as an architect first, before i was reminded of the drama and the movie 'the girl on the red velvet swing' that I remember seeing in the past, (even though it was made long before I had seen it) (now you could not pay me to live in The Gotham full of necromancers)
Fascinating! Completely bonkers!
I enjoyed this so much!
Truly a zany but creative talent he had! It is always a "visionary" that takes us beyond what we thought was just normal.
His house in the Hamptons and the pebble dash that he used, it looks like the only way to get the pebbles set in the cement would be by hand since if you tried to apply a lot of pebbles at one time, the pebbles would get cement all over the pebbles, and the close ups you showed, each pebble had no cement on the front of them. That would be an incredible labor to do that.
No, you would just use a rag soaked in a mild acid solution to clean the cement off the face of the individual stones. Wouldn't be difficult at all. Cement dries very slowly.
With all the dead men from the Civil War no wonder it became the Gilded Age, less competition for jobs.
I absolutely loved it!!! Very informative and interesting. 😊
If I could go back in time, the Gilded Age would be where I'd go.
But only worth it if you were one of them…not the maid.
@@mayravega2335 that would depend...
Many thanks for this great documentary tribute to White. The only draw back is the persistent, irritating giggle in Dick Cavett's voice. He reads every line like he is delivering a snide joke.
Great insight into a fascinating man at a pivotal point in history. Main drawback was difficulty deciphering some of the words. Would have liked to see the interviews captioned as well as the narration.
If you tap on the screen, at the top right you will see CC , tap on that for captions.
Those without sin can cast the frist stone, it was a sick situation, and it wasn't the frist time it happened, or is it the last. So life goes on and White died for his sins many many years ago. He was a product of his era, and l remember from Art History studying his buildings. We were also told to watch the Red Velvet Swing to get a better idea of Mr. White. Life goes on, sometimes people with great gifts have great deficits too!
And Nesbitts husband was violent and mentally ill dominated by a cruel mother.
And we all know why those “men” loved swings ;-)
He didn’t “die for his sins,” he died because some nut with a gun bought into that whole, “Believe all women!” I would say it was Evelyn that was driven half mad locked up, married to a half wit and hims mommy dearest. Now *that* was a “crowded marriage.” We *still* have mommys in law who are in competition with their daughters in law. Ya know, they “had him FIRST!”
Sadly if he were born today they would label him ADHD and fill him full of pills. Imagine how many creative minds are being dulled by psychologists.
And big pharma
Few things to notice: Stanny was severely in debt, and had been ruined when his Gramercy Park Mansion, filled with priceless artworks, caught fire.
Also when an autopsy was done on him, doctors discovered he was about to die very soon anyway. I forgot the illnesses but he was extremely sick and suffered for years.
His greatest work Madison Square Presbyterian Church , was completed after he died. He squandered his wive’s inheritance and the builders for his country house were ready to fight because he had not paid them. He was really bad about paying debts
Sounds like he was related to Trump.
White was nothing, nothing like Trump. Becoming use to money flowing in and spending it and then not having the money, is completely different than having money, deliberately hiring workers, who you k ew would take you at your word and the contract you signed when all along, you never had any intention of paying them, is not at all the same.
@Coy Leigh I hope he is too because he will destroy everything and you white folks will suffer for generations! i do not live in America and so could care less.
@Coy Leigh Said like a typical drumpster
You "forgot the illness?" Wow. Why bother commenting? You forget? How about you look it UP?
This was a time when you could compartmentalize your work and personal life successfully. However dark, grotesque and predatory it may be.
Have you seen the US Congress? They have cocaine orgies every weekend.
It’s not like females had a lot of options, Yk?! And the life expectancy in those days was a hella shorter than it is now. Don’t forget the infant/maternal mortality rate at the time-which has improved so greatly since then the US ranks right around Costa Rica. We’re almost done with the leeches and blood letting medicine saga of the past and now we have the leeches called insurance companies and the blood letting of patient’s wallets called “copay” medicine.
Such progress! We should be ashamed to be called a “First Nation Country.”
We are left with some beautiful buildings, monuments, etc.
Wonderful documentary. Everything I hoped to see was shown, explained, interesting stories. Amazing production.
Thanks for sharing this. Stanford White was a genius!!
True! And I'm thinking that he was as manipulative and destructive of his DRAFTSMEN/Drafting Architects/Artisans/contractors, as he was of the young women he raped. (and I have to wonder what sort of MEN he went after...)
Did you mean Bill Clinton?
Joe Rock
Oh bullshit. Show verifiable evidence of this claim or STFU.
@@josephineroe8424 Anyone who knows factual history does know these facts old gal.
When Sanford white was young, he looked like Kirk Douglass, when he played as Van Gogh.
Although I have no respect for the rich over the poor and how they managed to get there without a care in the world for who they've stepped on to get there ,I do enjoy looking at the architecture of the Gilded Age. The buildings that have been cared for & those that have been abandoned all over the country as well as in europe. I've watched many as I love the outrageous gaudiness of these people at that time. It Makes for Quite a large amount of Ornate Structures.
I would suggest going and looking at the abandoned Widener Mansion. It's a beautiful Structure As well
Anyway. Wonderful video. Thank you. Much appreciated.
In a way, one of the true forefarthers of Steampunk, using textures and putting sometimes bizarre objects Together.
@thishouse I was watching this and then I realized I've seen him in a lot of your videos. An unintentional deep dive
Never heard of him ,very interesting
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Very well done video!
"They could go to their clubs without being assaulted" -- were they all despised???
Excellent!
If you have any interest in Stanny's architecture and life, this is a very good film. Stanny's Great-Grandson Sam and his wife Elizabeth add a personal private touch and the tour around and inside Stanny's LI Gold Coast home, Box Hill, is precious and exclusive. Professors Mosette Broderick, Robt. AM Stern and Andrew Dolkart add good insights, too. Too bad they did not interview the expert author on Stanny, Prof. Paul R. Baker. I recommend you buy his Stanny bio book. What is the name of Dick C's LI Stanny home (see end of film)?
Patti Smith
Idiot
oh cool, I would like to check out the book, thank you
Never heard of the arch but I’ve seen it before