Never missed a home game growing up at the old Lockhart Stadium 🏟️ Striker Liker forever! 😂 lol those were the days. Mom gave you a $10 and we rode our bikes no worries. Miss it! Ridiculous what they’re charging these days!
The NFL began in the USA in September of 1920 and way before the MLS began in the 90's. The MLS "Timbers" field in Portland was originally a baseball field.
But it was almost completely remodeled for soccer when the Timbers entered the MLS and looks very little like the original stadium. It was then later expanded with an extra deck.
Seattle, Charlotte and Atlanta fill their stadiums, all the time. Last weekend Atlanta had the 3rd highest attendance in the world. Manchester United and Munich were 1 and 3. Atlanta United consistently has some of the biggest crowds in the world. Atlanta's stadium was built for NFL and Soccer. Atlanta averages over 50, 000 a game. They been doing it, before Messi was a thought in MLS. Seattle and Charlotte too
@@donviajero2580 They usually sell out the whole stadium when fully open. Regardless what you think, it's a fact. When it is not fully open,they usually sell out, not always, but usually. The difference between Atlanta and Europe is, there is a lot to do in the summer there. United competes for the same dollars as the other sports teams, and other entertainment options. In Europe they have Football, with really no other major sports options. The average fan (supporter) is usually a fan of the baseball , college or NFL football, and the NBA , also
Seattle doesn’t fill their stadium. They cap their capacity at 37,000 and only averaged 32.000 last year…in no way do they “sell out nearly every game”
Atlanta United has one of the highest home game attendance records in all of world football. I’ve been to several matches where it was sold out. Amazing atmosphere.
The Philadelphia stadium is in Chester, Pennsylvania. 5 miles south of Philadelphia International Airport. That's the Commodore Barry Bridge, crossing the Delaware River. 20 miles south of the Eagles stadium, Phillies stadium, and the Walt Whitman Bridge.
A lot of MLS teams name themselves after European teams. I am personally not big on this, I would like us to name teams our way with a unique mascot. Maybe some European team names but not all of them. Team names should reflect the town, city, community, state, and fans and not be named after another team overseas. I think this is what MLS is missing most is the uniqueness of team identities.
It started more as a college football stadium. In the 50s Baseball started playing there. All of the other teams have found new homes and now it’s a soccer only stadium.
that is true.. that's why instead of a new stadium they're going to put 150million into the stadium to better accommodate the FC fans and not just the NFL
Atlanta United has a very high turnout every home game. We typically rank amongst the highest in attendance (even in down performance years). Never thought we were a huge soccer city until I went to a game lol.
Great reaction, boys. InterMiami's DRVPINK/Chase field is a temporary stadium. Freedom Park in Miami is the permanent home. It opens next year. Its really nice looking. There's videos out there of what it will look like.
No team in the MLS averaged above 47k in the 2023 season. Averaging is different than peak nights. This isn’t to say Atlanta, Seattle, and Charlotte don’t do very well, they do, all averaging well above 30k, but that’s not the same as “usually averaging about 50k for their matches”. Most pro/college US sporting events don’t have seating capacity/average that many people per game. That’s really only a NFL, CFB, and MLB and even these days the MLB doesn’t really average above 50k anymore despite having the facilities for it. Essentially the top attended MLS team Atlanta United are in parity attendance wise with every team in the MLB NHL and NBA, but the next top two teams in the MLS attendance wise(the sounders and charlotte)are only in parity with the 9th most attended MLB team and below. This also is ONLY attendance numbers, not viewership numbers included in which MLS just isn’t there compared to the other big 4 and granted there are multiple reasons beyond just appeal for that but still. MLS is likely knocking on the door/chasing the tail of the NHL and NBA, at least attendance wise, but outside that it’s really hard to tell where exactly it sits as viewership numbers for both of those leagues are FAR higher than their attendance numbers due to the size of facilities used by the NBA and NHL. A good example of this phenomenon is how when the NHL does a stadium series in metlife they sell 79k tickets but most NHL stadiums can seat 20k max. So clearly there are more fans than seats and it’s why the NHL has such a high attendance percentage per team when compared to other leagues with multiple being over 100%. With the average size of an MLS stadium not being much bigger than the NBA or about the same size i’d say you’re likely to see attendance average on the whole be around there long term, and the rest of the catch up is going to have to be done on TV to get anything bigger. People just don’t go out to sporting events as much as they used to, attendance numbers for pretty much every league and every market have been trending downward for years and that’s more just due to societal factors more than anything else. MLS will find its place but it’s unlikely to hit that 50k consistent mark due to the listed factors. Eventually those teams will likely have to move out of those stadiums too, MLS is pretty hell bent on everyone having soccer specific stadiums eventually.
@@Fatblue246 Atlanta in the past has average over 50,000. I no the difference between average and peaked nights. Atlanta has also had peaked nights of over 71,000. They fully open the full stadium up 4 to 5 times a time year and draw at least 68,000. You take those night, and add them to all the other games when it's not fully open. When it's not fully open the stadium holds 47,000 people. You add up total attendance for all games, divide by 17. 17 is the number of home games, that is an average, which would be over 50,000. Simple
They leave one end empty because stadiums are frequently built with tax money and they need to have more than one purpose. These stadiums double as dedicated concert venues. You'll be able to spot which stadiums are built like this because it is very easy to set up a stage at that end, fill the grounds with more seats or standing areas, and the giant screens are already in place behind the performer.
The Carolina Panthers stadium called Bank of America stadium is also home of Charlotte FC the 74k number is actually MLS game attendance. Look it up Charlotte FC broke the MLS record the first season. Bank Of America stadium holds 76k
yeah the portland timbers stadium used to be a baseball stadium for the portland beavers. but the tennis courts and large building on the side is the Multnomah athletic club, a private club. can still kind of see the games from the gym windows of the club, i always loved growing up and getting a free watch of any game being played on the balcony. but can still see it from some gyms and basketball courts in the club.
Atlanta United and Seattle Sounders average almost 60,000 in attendance per game. Atlanta United in particular has the 5th best average attendance in the world. Not MLS, not in America, THE WORLD.
Not true. They’ve averaged around 50,000. Their high in ac season is 53,009 for average attendance. That’s impressive, but it isn’t close to top 5 in the world. Their opening day attendance this year was top 5 in the world for that week. Seattle has averaged around 40,000.
where did you get the numbers for that? any data i’ve been able to find for 2023 has Atlanta united at 47k average and Seattle Sounders FC at 32k, with charlotte actually being the second most attended at 36k and none of those are soccer specific stadiums hence the higher capacity. Don’t get me wrong, still very impressive especially for soccer in anglophone NA and for a league that isn’t the best globally unlike the other major 4 sport leagues in the US/CA. I know El Trafico has drawn a crowd of like 80k before so it’s definitely not something to overlook but on average viewership is still not really breaking into the top 4, though it likely will get there! Hockey while growing on a viewership level isn’t growing as organically play wise in the rest of the US as much as soccer is so i can see it being surpassed within most of the US within the decade as soccer has both that play and viewership growth happening. Probably not in areas like the north east and midwest which is Hockey’s stronghold, but in places like out west and in the south it’s likely as hockey while more popular to watch now than it was is still pretty niche.
@@Fatblue246 Atlanta has a 72,000 seat stadium. They open the stadium up to full capacity 4 to 5 times a year, and usually sell out, at worst they will have about 68,000. The rest of the games are at a lesser capacity of around 47,000. You add up their total attendance for the year, and divide by 17. 17 is the total number of home games. Therefore you get the teams average for each game. When the game is at the lower capacity, you do not see the extra seats. If you want to use the 47,000 number, it's still more than half the teams in the premier league. Atlanta has average over 55,000 in their first season. Google it
You went to the old Robertson stadium at the University of Houston. The new stadium was opened in 2012. It’s right across 59 from Minute Maid park. It was BBVA for years and just changed to Shell Energy. Great stadium with great views of downtown Houston
Here’s a few notes for y’all: 1) that random poor bleacher stand at Inter Miami (now called Chase Field) was one of 2-3 built in hurry once Messi was signed to up capacity 2) you’re right: RB Arena is in an even more remote and disheveled area than even MetLife 3) the turnover on Yankee Stadium is surely difficult, but the result is worse. The field is the size of a postage stamp and the turf covering baseball dirt tends to cause slipping of players 4) for the teams with shared football stadiums, you get two effects - Revs/Fire where the crowds like like nothing in their stadiums vs. ATL/Charlotte where their crowds tends to beat their football crowds Best view: our beloved Subaru Park Best stadium I’ve been to yet: TQL
Portland Timbers, Providence Park was originally built by the Multnomah Athletic Club for amateur sports. It has had several names over the years. It was originally Multnomah Stadium. It has had additions and hosted concerts, baseball, college football and in 1972 became the home of the original Timbers FB club, It is right in the middle of down town Portland unlike most stadiums and parking is a nightmare, but we love and put up with the parking bit.
If you attended a Houston Dynamo home game before the current stadium opened in 2012, you would have gone to Robertson Stadium, which was the (American) football stadium of the University of Houston. The university has since built a new stadium.
if you went to a dynamo game around that era you prolly watched it at the University of Houston american football stadium. That was the original home of the dynamo for years.
Yup, they should have put the Panther's stadium somewhere between Columbia and Greenville, SC if they wanted packed houses. North Carolina is more populous, but South Carolina has the most voracious sports fans by far.
Portland’s stadium is indeed that old. I believe another ball club played there until the 60s and the Timber bought it. Stadium is almost as old as Office Bloke Mike (jk 😂).
Vancouver actually has the mildest weather in Canada. It's quite similar to England actually. It rains quite a bit. That stadium has a retractable roof as well...
Not true…Victoria is actually milder…but kind of the same thing. It doesn’t rain all the time here. It’s drier than Montreal or Toronto from start of May until end of October.
ok Lincoln Financial Field and Citizens Bank Park are actually in South Phildelphia. The bridge thats near those stadiums is the Walt Witman Bridge. Subaru Park on the other hand is not in the city limits. It's actually in Chester, PA which is south of Philadelphia and just north of the State of Delaware near Wilmington. The bridge thats behind Subaru Park is the Commodore Barry Bridge. They wanted to put the stadium in South Philly but with the 2 stadiums and Wells Fargo Center right there, it wouldn't work due to parking issues because of Concerts and Baseball games during the summer time on a Saturday. The only downfall about where Subaru Park is, its public transportation. SEPTA Regional Line doesn't have a stop for the stadium since its not close to the line itself. The Regional Line is more near I-95 Highway than to the stadium. But a lot of free parking on the side streets.
I'm a Sporting Kansas City fan and we were originally called the Kansas City Wizards. Just like a lot of the league, there has been a transition to the more common names like FC, Sporting, Inter, United, etc.
Yes, Civic Stadium in Portland was built originally for baseball, though it also often hosted american football. Baseball was prohibited maybe 30 years ago for soccer and football only and about 5 years ago it was remodeled for soccer (Mostly) only. Very well done renovations. Lots of rain in Portland so covers are actually needed.
4:00 The naming of MLS teams with things like "sporting" "Inter" "real" and "FC" is super cringe, with more than a hint of desperation. 8:02 "Why not just complete it" Why is it so hard for people outside the US to understand.... It's cheaper to not build something (like the end part of a stadium) than it is to complete it. And also some stadiums (like the Seattle Seahawks) have great views, so even if you have to money to "complete" a stadium, you might not want to.
They double as concert venues. It's often by design to leave a side without stands so that it better suits a stage setup. Until MLS is as large as the other American sports it is a safer way to forge ahead and as you say it can be built later for demand. Total agreement about the club names. They will always give Americans shit. I feel like it was the decision of those Americans who like to go abroad and pretend they aren't like other Americans. The people that insist on using football instead of soccer. It was stupid to try to fit in with the world's naming conventions. I'd rather a city and mascot like we do with all the other sports.
I agree with you about the naming conventions. I've been saying that for years now. Why are we trying to be European when it comes to the way that we name our teams? It should just be city name followed by mascot name, like Columbus Crew. However, I do think that city name followed by FC/SC like Nashville SC is also acceptable, but that is where I draw the line. 🙂
@@TheCrazyCloonThey should all be SC. Americans forcing football as the term are just as annoying as people who insist on saying croissant with the accent.
The Sounders haves sold out lumen field against Portland a few times. You should react to their home match against Pumas in the CONCACAF champions league final. It was the best atmosphere I’ve ever seen in American soccer
With you with Geodis Park. Very simple, very clean looking stadium! I have a sort spot for the Rapids ground at Dicks Sporting Goods Park as well. It was the team that introduced me to the MLS. A former Chesterfield striker went for a season.
Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta regularly sells 45,000 tickets with the upper bowl curtained off. For bigger games, they remove the curtain and they get upwards of 70000...complete with flag waving Ultras in the end zone. It is one of the best atmospheres in MLS
The corner stands at Inter Miami are just temporary. A new stadium is being built in Miami next to the Miami airport. The current temporary stadium is located in Fort Lauderdale.
The reason most of the MLS stadiums are between 19-25K attendence was due to early MLS (late 1990s and 2000s) being all played in cavernous NFL stadiums to around 15K crowds. It made for a poor atmosphere. So when MLS started to expand, the clubs were strongely pushed to build smaller venues to max out capacity, rather than have more empty seats. Inter Miami is playing at a temp home. Those corner seats were added for Messi and co. Freedom park is under construction, should be ready next year. The ironic thing about Man City, NYCFC and Yankees, is that the future NYCFC stadium will actually be built next to Mets' Citi field ballpark.
BC place’s roof is retractable. Vancouver’s weather is honestly more similar to the UK than the rest of Canada. Rainy for 3/4 of the year with random cold spells sprinkled in, and then intensely warm summers. BC place also shares the stadium with the BC Lions, who are a team in the Canadian Football League. So its very specific times of the year that the roof will be open, and which of the two sports is being played could also affect that. (Also, The Canucks have their own venue, within Rogers Arena. Daz was talking about how he was glad that “Soccer” teams don’t share stadiums with NFL teams, and such. Well, it’s the opposite here. Hockey gets its own arena, and every other team shares another)
I live in Vancouver. It isn’t rainy 3/4 of the year…more like 1/2….or less. Vancouver is drier than Montreal and Toronto from start of May until mid October. Also the roof isn’t fully retractable. It’s only a portion of the center of it that is.
Funny enough Providence Park in Portland was actually a venue to ~cricket~ matches in the early 20th century prior to hosting baseball games in the later years. The irony here is incredible😂
It's really cool listening to Brits that are so chill towards us about soccer. People make fun of us for saying soccer, but the game has exploded in popularity here in the last 10-15 years. I think in another 10 a lot of people will be really surprised by our national and club teams. Probably won't get any credit, considering we've already been to the knockout stages of the World Cup a bunch of times now and people still act like we don't know anything lol
When it comes to the MLS teams that play in the NFL venues, they are definitely too big for Chicago and New England but Atlanta regularly bring over 55,000 fans to their games, Charlotte set the MLS attendance record with 74,479, and Seattle set the stadium record at 69,257, more than any Seahawks game. Those have phenomenal atmospheres and they’re good for those three teams.
A lot of fans in the US actually do call the sport football. I use football and soccer pretty interchangeably depending on who I'm speaking with. Like the naming of the teams though, it has a lot to do with the culture of the city where they play. Like in Atlanta, for instance, there's a really vibrant latino community as well as a lot of fans of English club football. As a result, many of the people refer to the sport as football rather than soccer, and the team uses FC rather than SC.
as a revs fan, i can confirm that the atmosphere at gillette is more dead than my grandma. and they're trying to build a new soccer specific stadium in everett next to the casino which may also be used by the new womens team coming to boston
NYCFC is building a soccer specific stadium, so they will be out of the baseball stadium. New England is looking to build a SSS, so they can move out of their football stadium. Lumen Field and MB we’re built with both football and soccer in mind. Those are permanent homes. That leaves Chicago and Charlotte as the last two teams playing in stadiums designed for football. I’m not sure what’s going on with Chicago, but Charlotte was going to build a soccer specific stadium. I think they are taking advantage of the size of the football stadium at the moment. Soccer is new and drawing large crowds. I would imagine eventually they’ll build a SSS with an appropriate capacity down the line.
18k is too small for MLS now. A lot of the original soccer specific stadiums had 18-20k, but most of the new ones have 22-30k. 25k is kind of the sweet spot for MLS at the moment.
NYCFC stadium is gonna be ready in the next few years and what’s really cool about it is that it’s in Willets Point right next to Citi Field, which is on the LIRR line so you can take the train right to the stadium for the game like you can for the Mets, so if you ever go visit the NY metro area after the stadium is ready you can easily take public transit to a game. Also for MLS names many of the older clubs have names that are more north american like than European, the colombus crew for example or the portland timbers. The reason many clubs moved towards more European branding is that the MLS was almost too americanized in its early years and it turned a lot of soccer fans in the US off, so clubs and the league made more of an effort to pay homage to existing soccer culture rather than continuing to try to ham fist an americanized version when it wasn’t working. Where it worked you see more American/NA style sports names like Portland Timbers, Seattle Sounders, San Jose Earthquakes, LA Galaxy, New England Revolution, etc. Also in America while we don’t use football to colloquially refer to soccer we know it’s still a variant of football, so it’s not that weird to many that FC is in the name. Same with how many Rugby teams have “FC” in their names officially but you don’t call rugby “football” on its own or even usually say the “FC” part of the name. I’m a NYCFC fan and most of the time casters just call us “City” so it’s really not like a huge thing. Many even use SC over FC too, it’s just for branding really. We didn’t use Metlife also because it seats like 80k and it would be a ghost town, average MLS attendance is closer to that of an NHL game than an NFL game. Speaking of Metlife if you haven’t checked it out you should check out the NHL stadium series, the Devils and Flyers had 70k in attendance at metlife for an outdoor hockey game, Islanders vs Rangers sold huge in metlife too. Was a very cool thing to see
Best Columbus hotel by the stadium is the Blackwell. Book it if you want to be by the stadium. Short North & Grandview Heights have nice places too. Short north is probably the place you want to be when visiting. Downtown is meh
You should definitely go check out Geodis Park. Nashville SC had someone very high up in the organization who came from Liverpool actually within like the last 3 years. He left Liverpool to join Nashville SC to grow the club. Also Atlanta United actually average about 47,000 per game every single year so that stadium isn’t too big at all for them. They did rank in top 10 multiple years for highest attendance in the world
Charlotte FC is in they're third season i believe, the head coach is from the UK 🇬🇧 his name is Dean Smith he was at Aston Villa at one point, have you heard of him Daz or Aidan?
Toronto's FC stadium is decent in the summer but last I was there it looked unfinished on one side. Not sure if this has changed. Like Minnesota, Toronto needs a dome. It's fecking cold most times. Season starts in April when it's still cold. Things don't warm up until mid to late May when t-shirt weather start. Things are decent from June until end of August then things get miserable. Once September hits, Toronto's needs a dome. It gets chilly in the evenings.
a lot of the names have to do with who owns the team, or who bought the team when the MLS was first created. For example, the same owners who owned Manchester City also bought NYC FC, hence the decision to choose the name New York CITY FC, rather than just New York FC. They also have pretty much the same colors as Man City. Same obviously with RB Leipzig, RB Salzburg, and NY Red Bulls. Even with Inter Miami, David Beckham said he wanted to pay tribute to the Hispanic heritage of Miami. so the real name of the club is Club Internacional de futbol Miami.
The team names are nicknames that reference the city's culture of that time, happenings, or team's mentality. For example.... -- Pittsburgh Steelers (NFL) were named so because the city was known to be the "Steel Capitol of America" -- Philadelphia 76ers (NBA) were named so because the city of Philadelphia was the USA's capital in 1776, when the US gained its independence. -- the Tampa Bay Lightning (NHL) is named so because Tampa is the most active with lighting, in North America. They even have a Tesla coil in the arena showing that off. -- both the Denver Nuggets (NBA) & San Francisco 49ers (NFL) both reference the Gold Rush of America when gold was found west (of the Mississippi River).
Yeah, Aiden's right for the where the Eagles play, Philadelphia chambs all 3 sports stadiums in a giant parking space. I've seen a concert, and a baseball game on that property. It's a MASSIVE slice of space! Aiden is wrong that the MLS Philadelphia Union play on the same property. It's actually in the town west of Philadelphia of Chester. Probably safer, though!
Portland's stadium shows it to be built in 1926. Reason? It was a minor league baseball stadium originally. The city always experimented with other sports on that property. Until some investors for the Portland Timbers bought the stadium, and transformed it into a purpose-built soccer stadium.
Not sure if this was said in the comments and I can't really dig up the article at the time. There was a bunch of market research done and found that US soccer fans prefer more European sounding names, hence why newer mls teams are more "euro-styled" and older teams, like Columbus Crew, Portland Timbers, Seattle Sounders, New England Revaluation are more north-american esque
N.E. Revolution is also owned by the owner of the N.E. Patriots... Robert Craft. Hence why they play in the same stadium. Last I checked, he's trying to build a permanent stadium for the Revolution. Somewhere in Everett, MA or Chelsea, MA? Don't quote me on it.
Here's some fun facts about the "NFL" stadiums in this video. Atlanta United has one of the highest average attendance in the world of football (yes, the WORLD). The stadium was built specifically for both American grid iron football and football. The owners of the club truly invest in their club and their fan base is one of the best in MLS. Seattle Sounders also has one of the highest average attendance in football, but not in the world, just in North America I believe. The owners claimed that the stadium was not only built for the Seattle Seahawks of the NFL. But it was also built to accommodate football matches, not specifically for the Sounders. The Sounders just happened to now reside there and the city loves their football. Actually, the whole Pacific Northwest is football crazy. Charlotte FC has a pretty good average attendance for a football match in a American football stadium. They are no Atlanta United, but they do have a good following that definitely come to watch football on a weekly basis. Chicago Fire is weird one because the city likes their football but they have a horrible season record in the last 5 years or so and their ownership could do better. They use to have their own football stadium but it was in Bridgeview and far away from downtown. They weren't getting much attendance there so they moved to Soldier Field. They're attendance record could be better. New England Revolution by far has it the worst. Although their attendance is getting better and they are averaging some decent numbers as of late, they definitely do not fill the stadium and their ownership group sucks. Their ownership group owns the New England Patriots of the NFL and that's what they care about. In my humble opinion, the fans deserve better. New York City FC is owned by the Manchester City Football group. With that type of ownership group, you wonder why they play in a baseball stadium. The fan base is there although could be better. It was too much politics within the city that hindered the club from building a proper football venue. Thank God they are finally getting one soon because they are actually a good club with a good following. Their fans deserves a home to call their own. *****Honorable Mention***** DRV PNK Stadium of Inter Miami is now called Chase Stadium and is a temporary home for Lionel Messi and company. They have a very nice venue being built thanks to a proper football ownership in David Beckham and Jorge Mas. Unfortunately, I don't think Messi will play in the stadium by the time it is built. He may have a statue built there though.
Sporting Kansas City over time have been the Kansas City Wizards and Kansas City Wiz. New York Red Bulls used to be the New York/New Jersey Metro Stars until they were bought by Red Bull and rebranded to New York Red Bulls. FC Dallas used to be called Dallas Burn.
Some of these clubs with European type names are actually owned by big Euro clubs n are “sister” franchises. Like NYCFC, Real Salt Lake, NY Red Bulls etc…
Real Salt Lake is not owned by a European. They are owned by the same local guy that owns the Utah Jazz. NYCFC is 80% owned by City Football Group (which owns Man City). Red Bull NY is owned by Red Bull.
You are correct about the MLS naming conventions. It’s very cringe that the MLS couldn’t develop its own culture and had to just copy names from other popular clubs because they couldn’t come up with a name themselves. Real Salt Lake is one of the worst offenders. Same with DC United and such. Also, when you go to Ohio you should try to see a Crew match as well as the match at Ohio Stadium.
I feel like people underestimate how big MLS is. Most of those stadiums are FAR bigger than NBA. The Sounders consistently pack almost 70k into their stadium. How many British soccer stadiums do that?
Real Salt Lake had an agreement with Real Madrid as far as player development when they came into the league. I don't think it ever went anywhere though. That Inter Miami stadium is an erector park. It's not meant to be there permanently. They ended up building there because they can't get the city to let them build something inside Miami itself. They brought in Messi partially to expedite getting a new stadium where they want one. Providence Park (Portland Timbers) was a baseball stadium for minor league baseball up until the Timbers joined MLS. The Timber were still sharing the stadium right up until the final two years before joining MLS. For Yankee Stadium, the hardest thing to do is take the dirt off the pitcher's mound. The sightlines for fans aren't the best either. The reason they play there instead of MetLife is that it's free to play at Yankee Stadium because the Yankees are invested in this with City Group. Bank of America Stadium needs to switch back to grass. Too may players get injured on the turf. If you're making the Columbus game for City vs Chelsea, you have to go to downtown. The hockey stadium, baseball stadium and Crew stadium (Lower.Com) are all within a miles walk of each other.
Wow, Daz. You are way off on when the NFL started. The first professional game was played October 1920. Football goes back way back and college football was played back in the 1880s. And Gillette Stadium fills up for soccer. We even saw the Women’s World Cup there in 1999 and it was full. The Revolution are frequently in the MLS finals.
Yeah MLS Teams started with great American Style Names, and then expansion teams came in and tried to copy European convention of SC, FC, United, Inter ect. Even my Columbus Crew were rebranded as Columbus Crew SC and then our new owners tried to rebrand to Columbus SC and we revolted and they changed us back to Columbus Crew
Pizza Hut Park in Dallas is known as ""the pizza oven". We are not joking when we are saying it's 800 degrees and we are going to actually die. Dallas is otherwise a very nice city.
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You'd be right, Daz. The Miami stadium is temporary, the new one is under construction.
Looks dope. Mock up is almost entire exterior of LED display. We'll see.
Never missed a home game growing up at the old Lockhart Stadium 🏟️ Striker Liker forever! 😂 lol those were the days. Mom gave you a $10 and we rode our bikes no worries. Miss it! Ridiculous what they’re charging these days!
The NFL began in the USA in September of 1920 and way before the MLS began in the 90's. The MLS "Timbers" field in Portland was originally a baseball field.
But it was almost completely remodeled for soccer when the Timbers entered the MLS and looks very little like the original stadium. It was then later expanded with an extra deck.
I when to the Columbus crew first game of the season and I love the stadium and the atmosphere was amazing
Seattle, Charlotte and Atlanta fill their stadiums, all the time. Last weekend Atlanta had the 3rd highest attendance in the world. Manchester United and Munich were 1 and 3. Atlanta United consistently has some of the biggest crowds in the world. Atlanta's stadium was built for NFL and Soccer. Atlanta averages over 50, 000 a game. They been doing it, before Messi was a thought in MLS. Seattle and Charlotte too
Only Atlanta comes close to completely filling the entire stadium. Seattle blocks off parts of the upper deck, but will often fill the rest.
@@donviajero2580 They usually sell out the whole stadium when fully open. Regardless what you think, it's a fact. When it is not fully open,they usually sell out, not always, but usually. The difference between Atlanta and Europe is, there is a lot to do in the summer there. United competes for the same dollars as the other sports teams, and other entertainment options. In Europe they have Football, with really no other major sports options. The average fan (supporter) is usually a fan of the baseball , college or NFL football, and the NBA , also
Seattle doesn’t fill their stadium. They cap their capacity at 37,000 and only averaged 32.000 last year…in no way do they “sell out nearly every game”
Atlanta United has one of the highest home game attendance records in all of world football. I’ve been to several matches where it was sold out. Amazing atmosphere.
no it doesn't lol
Wembley has 90k pal
Didn’t say highest. Said one of highest. It ranks 7th in THE WORLD in average attendance only one spot behind Real Madrid and the bernabéu
@@wearegoingononeuropeantour2915 One of the highest on average. Not the highest average attendance.
@@wearegoingononeuropeantour2915 learn to read pal
The Philadelphia stadium is in Chester, Pennsylvania. 5 miles south of Philadelphia International Airport. That's the Commodore Barry Bridge, crossing the Delaware River. 20 miles south of the Eagles stadium, Phillies stadium, and the Walt Whitman Bridge.
I remember driving thru Chester as a kid going to the shore in order to cross Commodore Barry. Lol
one wrong exit and your in the middle of Chester.....
Atlanta isn’t soccer-specific obviously, but they built it with both the Falcons and Atlanta United in mind
Beautiful too!
If you’re going to the Buckeye Stadium, you should try and see if a Crew game is goin on around then. It’s probably 10 mins away
The Inter Miami stadium is actually temporary, they're building a new stadium in Miami called Miami Freedom Park, its scheduled to open next year.
A lot of MLS teams name themselves after European teams. I am personally not big on this, I would like us to name teams our way with a unique mascot. Maybe some European team names but not all of them. Team names should reflect the town, city, community, state, and fans and not be named after another team overseas. I think this is what MLS is missing most is the uniqueness of team identities.
I quite like the blend of European and Americanized names. There are definitely some that are goofy though like Real Salt Lake and Inter Miami
Portland Timbers stadium used to a baseball park. And thats apartment with the tennis courts on top
It started more as a college football stadium. In the 50s Baseball started playing there. All of the other teams have found new homes and now it’s a soccer only stadium.
As a Panthers fan and Charlotte FC fan I can say the stadium is in fact way too big…for the Panthers. Charlotte FC fills it up very well
that is true.. that's why instead of a new stadium they're going to put 150million into the stadium to better accommodate the FC fans and not just the NFL
Atlanta United has a very high turnout every home game. We typically rank amongst the highest in attendance (even in down performance years). Never thought we were a huge soccer city until I went to a game lol.
Great reaction, boys. InterMiami's DRVPINK/Chase field is a temporary stadium. Freedom Park in Miami is the permanent home. It opens next year. Its really nice looking. There's videos out there of what it will look like.
Actually the last 3 stadiums Lumein Field, MB stadium and BOA stadium usually average about 50-55k fand for thier matchs
Also , in Atlanta you never see the extra seats, when they are not fully opened. American ingenuity, at its best.
No team in the MLS averaged above 47k in the 2023 season. Averaging is different than peak nights. This isn’t to say Atlanta, Seattle, and Charlotte don’t do very well, they do, all averaging well above 30k, but that’s not the same as “usually averaging about 50k for their matches”. Most pro/college US sporting events don’t have seating capacity/average that many people per game. That’s really only a NFL, CFB, and MLB and even these days the MLB doesn’t really average above 50k anymore despite having the facilities for it. Essentially the top attended MLS team Atlanta United are in parity attendance wise with every team in the MLB NHL and NBA, but the next top two teams in the MLS attendance wise(the sounders and charlotte)are only in parity with the 9th most attended MLB team and below. This also is ONLY attendance numbers, not viewership numbers included in which MLS just isn’t there compared to the other big 4 and granted there are multiple reasons beyond just appeal for that but still. MLS is likely knocking on the door/chasing the tail of the NHL and NBA, at least attendance wise, but outside that it’s really hard to tell where exactly it sits as viewership numbers for both of those leagues are FAR higher than their attendance numbers due to the size of facilities used by the NBA and NHL. A good example of this phenomenon is how when the NHL does a stadium series in metlife they sell 79k tickets but most NHL stadiums can seat 20k max. So clearly there are more fans than seats and it’s why the NHL has such a high attendance percentage per team when compared to other leagues with multiple being over 100%. With the average size of an MLS stadium not being much bigger than the NBA or about the same size i’d say you’re likely to see attendance average on the whole be around there long term, and the rest of the catch up is going to have to be done on TV to get anything bigger. People just don’t go out to sporting events as much as they used to, attendance numbers for pretty much every league and every market have been trending downward for years and that’s more just due to societal factors more than anything else. MLS will find its place but it’s unlikely to hit that 50k consistent mark due to the listed factors. Eventually those teams will likely have to move out of those stadiums too, MLS is pretty hell bent on everyone having soccer specific stadiums eventually.
@@Fatblue246 Atlanta in the past has average over 50,000. I no the difference between average and peaked nights. Atlanta has also had peaked nights of over 71,000. They fully open the full stadium up 4 to 5 times a time year and draw at least 68,000. You take those night, and add them to all the other games when it's not fully open. When it's not fully open the stadium holds 47,000 people. You add up total attendance for all games, divide by 17. 17 is the number of home games, that is an average, which would be over 50,000. Simple
They leave one end empty because stadiums are frequently built with tax money and they need to have more than one purpose. These stadiums double as dedicated concert venues.
You'll be able to spot which stadiums are built like this because it is very easy to set up a stage at that end, fill the grounds with more seats or standing areas, and the giant screens are already in place behind the performer.
The Carolina Panthers stadium called Bank of America stadium is also home of Charlotte FC the 74k number is actually MLS game attendance. Look it up Charlotte FC broke the MLS record the first season. Bank Of America stadium holds 76k
yeah the portland timbers stadium used to be a baseball stadium for the portland beavers. but the tennis courts and large building on the side is the Multnomah athletic club, a private club. can still kind of see the games from the gym windows of the club, i always loved growing up and getting a free watch of any game being played on the balcony. but can still see it from some gyms and basketball courts in the club.
Atlanta United and Seattle Sounders average almost 60,000 in attendance per game. Atlanta United in particular has the 5th best average attendance in the world. Not MLS, not in America, THE WORLD.
well for pro sports yeah. NCAA football is waay higher for some
Not true. They’ve averaged around 50,000. Their high in ac season is 53,009 for average attendance. That’s impressive, but it isn’t close to top 5 in the world. Their opening day attendance this year was top 5 in the world for that week. Seattle has averaged around 40,000.
where did you get the numbers for that? any data i’ve been able to find for 2023 has Atlanta united at 47k average and Seattle Sounders FC at 32k, with charlotte actually being the second most attended at 36k and none of those are soccer specific stadiums hence the higher capacity. Don’t get me wrong, still very impressive especially for soccer in anglophone NA and for a league that isn’t the best globally unlike the other major 4 sport leagues in the US/CA. I know El Trafico has drawn a crowd of like 80k before so it’s definitely not something to overlook but on average viewership is still not really breaking into the top 4, though it likely will get there! Hockey while growing on a viewership level isn’t growing as organically play wise in the rest of the US as much as soccer is so i can see it being surpassed within most of the US within the decade as soccer has both that play and viewership growth happening. Probably not in areas like the north east and midwest which is Hockey’s stronghold, but in places like out west and in the south it’s likely as hockey while more popular to watch now than it was is still pretty niche.
@@Fatblue246 Atlanta has a 72,000 seat stadium. They open the stadium up to full capacity 4 to 5 times a year, and usually sell out, at worst they will have about 68,000. The rest of the games are at a lesser capacity of around 47,000. You add up their total attendance for the year, and divide by 17. 17 is the total number of home games. Therefore you get the teams average for each game. When the game is at the lower capacity, you do not see the extra seats. If you want to use the 47,000 number, it's still more than half the teams in the premier league. Atlanta has average over 55,000 in their first season. Google it
@@Fatblue246 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_attendance#Current_active_teams
You went to the old Robertson stadium at the University of Houston. The new stadium was opened in 2012. It’s right across 59 from Minute Maid park. It was BBVA for years and just changed to Shell Energy. Great stadium with great views of downtown Houston
Good times watching dynamo there
Here’s a few notes for y’all:
1) that random poor bleacher stand at Inter Miami (now called Chase Field) was one of 2-3 built in hurry once Messi was signed to up capacity
2) you’re right: RB Arena is in an even more remote and disheveled area than even MetLife
3) the turnover on Yankee Stadium is surely difficult, but the result is worse. The field is the size of a postage stamp and the turf covering baseball dirt tends to cause slipping of players
4) for the teams with shared football stadiums, you get two effects -
Revs/Fire where the crowds like like nothing in their stadiums vs. ATL/Charlotte where their crowds tends to beat their football crowds
Best view: our beloved Subaru Park
Best stadium I’ve been to yet: TQL
Portland Timbers, Providence Park was originally built by the Multnomah Athletic Club for amateur sports. It has had several names over the years. It was originally Multnomah Stadium. It has had additions and hosted concerts, baseball, college football and in 1972 became the home of the original Timbers FB club, It is right in the middle of down town Portland unlike most stadiums and parking is a nightmare, but we love and put up with the parking bit.
The end on ORLANDO CITY SC stadium is called protective standing only .
If you attended a Houston Dynamo home game before the current stadium opened in 2012, you would have gone to Robertson Stadium, which was the (American) football stadium of the University of Houston. The university has since built a new stadium.
if you went to a dynamo game around that era you prolly watched it at the University of Houston american football stadium. That was the original home of the dynamo for years.
As a Panthers fan, I can confirm that that was an actual panthers game attendance 😂
Yup, they should have put the Panther's stadium somewhere between Columbia and Greenville, SC if they wanted packed houses. North Carolina is more populous, but South Carolina has the most voracious sports fans by far.
I drove past the Minnesota United one when it was being built. Looks nice!
Portland’s stadium is indeed that old. I believe another ball club played there until the 60s and the Timber bought it. Stadium is almost as old as Office Bloke Mike (jk 😂).
The Portland Beavers of the Pacific Coast League. ⚾
Vancouver actually has the mildest weather in Canada. It's quite similar to England actually. It rains quite a bit. That stadium has a retractable roof as well...
Not true…Victoria is actually milder…but kind of the same thing.
It doesn’t rain all the time here. It’s drier than Montreal or Toronto from start of May until end of October.
ok Lincoln Financial Field and Citizens Bank Park are actually in South Phildelphia. The bridge thats near those stadiums is the Walt Witman Bridge. Subaru Park on the other hand is not in the city limits. It's actually in Chester, PA which is south of Philadelphia and just north of the State of Delaware near Wilmington. The bridge thats behind Subaru Park is the Commodore Barry Bridge. They wanted to put the stadium in South Philly but with the 2 stadiums and Wells Fargo Center right there, it wouldn't work due to parking issues because of Concerts and Baseball games during the summer time on a Saturday. The only downfall about where Subaru Park is, its public transportation. SEPTA Regional Line doesn't have a stop for the stadium since its not close to the line itself. The Regional Line is more near I-95 Highway than to the stadium. But a lot of free parking on the side streets.
I'm a Sporting Kansas City fan and we were originally called the Kansas City Wizards. Just like a lot of the league, there has been a transition to the more common names like FC, Sporting, Inter, United, etc.
I like the Minnesota stadium also, but I'm biased because I live here.
The stand that isn’t purple in Orlando is the wall, which is the safe standing area of the stadium. It’s purple on game days lol
I've been to many stadiums all over the world and I must say that we are completely spoiled with TQL Stadium, it is fantastic!
Yes, Civic Stadium in Portland was built originally for baseball, though it also often hosted american football. Baseball was prohibited maybe 30 years ago for soccer and football only and about 5 years ago it was remodeled for soccer (Mostly) only. Very well done renovations. Lots of rain in Portland so covers are actually needed.
I will say, Yankee stadium was actually surprisingly cool to see a match at since you can see the whole pitch while you walk around the concourse.
4:00 The naming of MLS teams with things like "sporting" "Inter" "real" and "FC" is super cringe, with more than a hint of desperation.
8:02 "Why not just complete it" Why is it so hard for people outside the US to understand.... It's cheaper to not build something (like the end part of a stadium) than it is to complete it. And also some stadiums (like the Seattle Seahawks) have great views, so even if you have to money to "complete" a stadium, you might not want to.
They double as concert venues. It's often by design to leave a side without stands so that it better suits a stage setup.
Until MLS is as large as the other American sports it is a safer way to forge ahead and as you say it can be built later for demand.
Total agreement about the club names. They will always give Americans shit. I feel like it was the decision of those Americans who like to go abroad and pretend they aren't like other Americans. The people that insist on using football instead of soccer. It was stupid to try to fit in with the world's naming conventions. I'd rather a city and mascot like we do with all the other sports.
I agree with you about the naming conventions. I've been saying that for years now. Why are we trying to be European when it comes to the way that we name our teams? It should just be city name followed by mascot name, like Columbus Crew. However, I do think that city name followed by FC/SC like Nashville SC is also acceptable, but that is where I draw the line. 🙂
Nothing cringe about FC or SC.
@@TheCrazyCloonThey should all be SC. Americans forcing football as the term are just as annoying as people who insist on saying croissant with the accent.
The Sounders haves sold out lumen field against Portland a few times. You should react to their home match against Pumas in the CONCACAF champions league final. It was the best atmosphere I’ve ever seen in American soccer
Agreed. It was unreal.
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Dynamo played at University of Houston our first 10 or so years. A stadium built in 1926 for war veterans. A bit different than our pretty new place.
With you with Geodis Park. Very simple, very clean looking stadium!
I have a sort spot for the Rapids ground at Dicks Sporting Goods Park as well. It was the team that introduced me to the MLS. A former Chesterfield striker went for a season.
They also didn't show San Diego's Snapdragon stadium because they are an expansion team that starts in 2025 but it's definitely worth checking out.
Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta regularly sells 45,000 tickets with the upper bowl curtained off. For bigger games, they remove the curtain and they get upwards of 70000...complete with flag waving Ultras in the end zone. It is one of the best atmospheres in MLS
The corner stands at Inter Miami are just temporary.
A new stadium is being built in Miami next to the Miami airport.
The current temporary stadium is located in Fort Lauderdale.
Actually NYCFC new stadium is being bulit are the road from NY Mets stadium.
Willets Point isn't it?
@@Matthew_Rushton yes
The reason most of the MLS stadiums are between 19-25K attendence was due to early MLS (late 1990s and 2000s) being all played in cavernous NFL stadiums to around 15K crowds. It made for a poor atmosphere. So when MLS started to expand, the clubs were strongely pushed to build smaller venues to max out capacity, rather than have more empty seats.
Inter Miami is playing at a temp home. Those corner seats were added for Messi and co. Freedom park is under construction, should be ready next year.
The ironic thing about Man City, NYCFC and Yankees, is that the future NYCFC stadium will actually be built next to Mets' Citi field ballpark.
Happy to see you guys keep up with MLS this season. My columbus crew are still undefeated in 4 matches so far.
LA Galaxy studim is a 1st generation soccer only stadiums
BC place’s roof is retractable. Vancouver’s weather is honestly more similar to the UK than the rest of Canada. Rainy for 3/4 of the year with random cold spells sprinkled in, and then intensely warm summers. BC place also shares the stadium with the BC Lions, who are a team in the Canadian Football League. So its very specific times of the year that the roof will be open, and which of the two sports is being played could also affect that. (Also, The Canucks have their own venue, within Rogers Arena. Daz was talking about how he was glad that “Soccer” teams don’t share stadiums with NFL teams, and such. Well, it’s the opposite here. Hockey gets its own arena, and every other team shares another)
I live in Vancouver. It isn’t rainy 3/4 of the year…more like 1/2….or less. Vancouver is drier than Montreal and Toronto from start of May until mid October.
Also the roof isn’t fully retractable. It’s only a portion of the center of it that is.
Funny enough Providence Park in Portland was actually a venue to ~cricket~ matches in the early 20th century prior to hosting baseball games in the later years. The irony here is incredible😂
Phila park in Chester about 30 mins south of south Philly sports complex
It's really cool listening to Brits that are so chill towards us about soccer. People make fun of us for saying soccer, but the game has exploded in popularity here in the last 10-15 years. I think in another 10 a lot of people will be really surprised by our national and club teams. Probably won't get any credit, considering we've already been to the knockout stages of the World Cup a bunch of times now and people still act like we don't know anything lol
It is named Allianz because the North American HQ for Allianz is based here in the Twin Cities. They bought the naming rights for the stadium.
What’s impressive is charlotte fc actually filled Bank of America stadium with up to 65,000 - 70,000 I believe.
The highest attendance records at lumen are both sounders matches.
Sounders vs Toronto (mls cup)
Sounders vs Unam pumas (champions league)
Robertson stadium was the name of the stadium houston dynamo played at before the current one
When it comes to the MLS teams that play in the NFL venues, they are definitely too big for Chicago and New England but Atlanta regularly bring over 55,000 fans to their games, Charlotte set the MLS attendance record with 74,479, and Seattle set the stadium record at 69,257, more than any Seahawks game. Those have phenomenal atmospheres and they’re good for those three teams.
A lot of fans in the US actually do call the sport football. I use football and soccer pretty interchangeably depending on who I'm speaking with. Like the naming of the teams though, it has a lot to do with the culture of the city where they play. Like in Atlanta, for instance, there's a really vibrant latino community as well as a lot of fans of English club football. As a result, many of the people refer to the sport as football rather than soccer, and the team uses FC rather than SC.
as a revs fan, i can confirm that the atmosphere at gillette is more dead than my grandma. and they're trying to build a new soccer specific stadium in everett next to the casino which may also be used by the new womens team coming to boston
NYCFC is building a soccer specific stadium, so they will be out of the baseball stadium. New England is looking to build a SSS, so they can move out of their football stadium. Lumen Field and MB we’re built with both football and soccer in mind. Those are permanent homes. That leaves Chicago and Charlotte as the last two teams playing in stadiums designed for football. I’m not sure what’s going on with Chicago, but Charlotte was going to build a soccer specific stadium. I think they are taking advantage of the size of the football stadium at the moment. Soccer is new and drawing large crowds. I would imagine eventually they’ll build a SSS with an appropriate capacity down the line.
Didn't see the Orlando stadium in there anywhere.
18k is too small for MLS now. A lot of the original soccer specific stadiums had 18-20k, but most of the new ones have 22-30k. 25k is kind of the sweet spot for MLS at the moment.
there is some videos out there of the fan chant fights in lumen field it is great!
NYCFC stadium is gonna be ready in the next few years and what’s really cool about it is that it’s in Willets Point right next to Citi Field, which is on the LIRR line so you can take the train right to the stadium for the game like you can for the Mets, so if you ever go visit the NY metro area after the stadium is ready you can easily take public transit to a game. Also for MLS names many of the older clubs have names that are more north american like than European, the colombus crew for example or the portland timbers. The reason many clubs moved towards more European branding is that the MLS was almost too americanized in its early years and it turned a lot of soccer fans in the US off, so clubs and the league made more of an effort to pay homage to existing soccer culture rather than continuing to try to ham fist an americanized version when it wasn’t working. Where it worked you see more American/NA style sports names like Portland Timbers, Seattle Sounders, San Jose Earthquakes, LA Galaxy, New England Revolution, etc. Also in America while we don’t use football to colloquially refer to soccer we know it’s still a variant of football, so it’s not that weird to many that FC is in the name. Same with how many Rugby teams have “FC” in their names officially but you don’t call rugby “football” on its own or even usually say the “FC” part of the name. I’m a NYCFC fan and most of the time casters just call us “City” so it’s really not like a huge thing. Many even use SC over FC too, it’s just for branding really. We didn’t use Metlife also because it seats like 80k and it would be a ghost town, average MLS attendance is closer to that of an NHL game than an NFL game. Speaking of Metlife if you haven’t checked it out you should check out the NHL stadium series, the Devils and Flyers had 70k in attendance at metlife for an outdoor hockey game, Islanders vs Rangers sold huge in metlife too. Was a very cool thing to see
Best Columbus hotel by the stadium is the Blackwell. Book it if you want to be by the stadium.
Short North & Grandview Heights have nice places too. Short north is probably the place you want to be when visiting.
Downtown is meh
If there are any videos about the history of each team that would be cool to react too.
You guys should react to some NFL or MLB videos from the 1960s and 1970s.
You should definitely go check out Geodis Park. Nashville SC had someone very high up in the organization who came from Liverpool actually within like the last 3 years. He left Liverpool to join Nashville SC to grow the club. Also Atlanta United actually average about 47,000 per game every single year so that stadium isn’t too big at all for them. They did rank in top 10 multiple years for highest attendance in the world
Charlotte FC is in they're third season i believe, the head coach is from the UK 🇬🇧 his name is Dean Smith he was at Aston Villa at one point, have you heard of him Daz or Aidan?
Toronto's FC stadium is decent in the summer but last I was there it looked unfinished on one side. Not sure if this has changed. Like Minnesota, Toronto needs a dome. It's fecking cold most times. Season starts in April when it's still cold. Things don't warm up until mid to late May when t-shirt weather start. Things are decent from June until end of August then things get miserable. Once September hits, Toronto's needs a dome. It gets chilly in the evenings.
LOL - More BS. Toronto in September isn’t “miserable”.
The Miami stadium is temporary also Minnesota United has a beer garden in the stadium so it should rank high on the list IMO
a lot of the names have to do with who owns the team, or who bought the team when the MLS was first created. For example, the same owners who owned Manchester City also bought NYC FC, hence the decision to choose the name New York CITY FC, rather than just New York FC. They also have pretty much the same colors as Man City. Same obviously with RB Leipzig, RB Salzburg, and NY Red Bulls. Even with Inter Miami, David Beckham said he wanted to pay tribute to the Hispanic heritage of Miami. so the real name of the club is Club Internacional de futbol Miami.
The team names are nicknames that reference the city's culture of that time, happenings, or team's mentality.
For example....
-- Pittsburgh Steelers (NFL) were named so because the city was known to be the "Steel Capitol of America"
-- Philadelphia 76ers (NBA) were named so because the city of Philadelphia was the USA's capital in 1776, when the US gained its independence.
-- the Tampa Bay Lightning (NHL) is named so because Tampa is the most active with lighting, in North America. They even have a Tesla coil in the arena showing that off.
-- both the Denver Nuggets (NBA) & San Francisco 49ers (NFL) both reference the Gold Rush of America when gold was found west (of the Mississippi River).
As far as the MLS's names? I got nothing. They just sound pretentious. They probably are pretentious!
Yeah, Aiden's right for the where the Eagles play, Philadelphia chambs all 3 sports stadiums in a giant parking space. I've seen a concert, and a baseball game on that property. It's a MASSIVE slice of space!
Aiden is wrong that the MLS Philadelphia Union play on the same property. It's actually in the town west of Philadelphia of Chester. Probably safer, though!
Portland's stadium shows it to be built in 1926. Reason?
It was a minor league baseball stadium originally. The city always experimented with other sports on that property. Until some investors for the Portland Timbers bought the stadium, and transformed it into a purpose-built soccer stadium.
Not sure if this was said in the comments and I can't really dig up the article at the time. There was a bunch of market research done and found that US soccer fans prefer more European sounding names, hence why newer mls teams are more "euro-styled" and older teams, like Columbus Crew, Portland Timbers, Seattle Sounders, New England Revaluation are more north-american esque
N.E. Revolution is also owned by the owner of the N.E. Patriots... Robert Craft. Hence why they play in the same stadium. Last I checked, he's trying to build a permanent stadium for the Revolution. Somewhere in Everett, MA or Chelsea, MA? Don't quote me on it.
With the design of Paypal Park, I guess you could say that the Earthquakes are the Oxford United of the MLS
La galaxy stadium was one of the first of its kind. That is why it looks a bit different.
There's defiently a difference between NFL that were built to also have soccer Atalanta and Seattle and the others New England, Charlotte and Chicago.
Love the Houston Astros cap! Will subscribe just because of that Detail
Here's some fun facts about the "NFL" stadiums in this video.
Atlanta United has one of the highest average attendance in the world of football (yes, the WORLD). The stadium was built specifically for both American grid iron football and football. The owners of the club truly invest in their club and their fan base is one of the best in MLS.
Seattle Sounders also has one of the highest average attendance in football, but not in the world, just in North America I believe. The owners claimed that the stadium was not only built for the Seattle Seahawks of the NFL. But it was also built to accommodate football matches, not specifically for the Sounders. The Sounders just happened to now reside there and the city loves their football. Actually, the whole Pacific Northwest is football crazy.
Charlotte FC has a pretty good average attendance for a football match in a American football stadium. They are no Atlanta United, but they do have a good following that definitely come to watch football on a weekly basis.
Chicago Fire is weird one because the city likes their football but they have a horrible season record in the last 5 years or so and their ownership could do better. They use to have their own football stadium but it was in Bridgeview and far away from downtown. They weren't getting much attendance there so they moved to Soldier Field. They're attendance record could be better.
New England Revolution by far has it the worst. Although their attendance is getting better and they are averaging some decent numbers as of late, they definitely do not fill the stadium and their ownership group sucks. Their ownership group owns the New England Patriots of the NFL and that's what they care about. In my humble opinion, the fans deserve better.
New York City FC is owned by the Manchester City Football group. With that type of ownership group, you wonder why they play in a baseball stadium. The fan base is there although could be better. It was too much politics within the city that hindered the club from building a proper football venue. Thank God they are finally getting one soon because they are actually a good club with a good following. Their fans deserves a home to call their own.
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DRV PNK Stadium of Inter Miami is now called Chase Stadium and is a temporary home for Lionel Messi and company. They have a very nice venue being built thanks to a proper football ownership in David Beckham and Jorge Mas. Unfortunately, I don't think Messi will play in the stadium by the time it is built. He may have a statue built there though.
Sporting Kansas City over time have been the Kansas City Wizards and Kansas City Wiz. New York Red Bulls used to be the New York/New Jersey Metro Stars until they were bought by Red Bull and rebranded to New York Red Bulls. FC Dallas used to be called Dallas Burn.
Portland timbers have increased their size to 28,000 prior to this season.
That Dallas FC soccer stadium was alright, but Look at ALLEN TEXAS High School stadium. You will be shocked, or will you. 🌎🇺🇸🇬🇧🇨🇦🇨🇮🇪🇦🇲🇽🇵🇷🇮🇹🇩🇪🇨🇺🇮🇱🙏💯
the super bowl started in the early 1960's but pro football was before the 1960's
You should do the USL Championship stadiums next! There’s some truly unique ones in USL
San Diego joins the MLS next year.
Seattle, Atlanta and Carolina actually fill up their football stadiums though, so it kinda works for them.
Seattle doesn’t fill their stadium. They average just over 30k
Some of these clubs with European type names are actually owned by big Euro clubs n are “sister” franchises. Like NYCFC, Real Salt Lake, NY Red Bulls etc…
Real Salt Lake is not owned by a European. They are owned by the same local guy that owns the Utah Jazz.
NYCFC is 80% owned by City Football Group (which owns Man City).
Red Bull NY is owned by Red Bull.
You are correct about the MLS naming conventions. It’s very cringe that the MLS couldn’t develop its own culture and had to just copy names from other popular clubs because they couldn’t come up with a name themselves. Real Salt Lake is one of the worst offenders. Same with DC United and such.
Also, when you go to Ohio you should try to see a Crew match as well as the match at Ohio Stadium.
The owner of the NY Mets wants to build a soccer stadium next to Citifield. Plus a casino to go along with it.
Which MLS club does he own ?
I feel like people underestimate how big MLS is. Most of those stadiums are FAR bigger than NBA. The Sounders consistently pack almost 70k into their stadium. How many British soccer stadiums do that?
WRONG. The Sounders do not “consistently” do this. They cap their capacity at 37,000 and last year they averaged just over 32,000.
Should react to the USL Championship and USL League One Stadiums to see division 2 and 3 compared to UK stadiums.
My favorite is Red Bull Arena. Any team that plays in a baseball stadium is a joke. Looking at you NYCFC
Portland timbers stadium was a baseball stadium before
That Northern stand is NOT cool at Lumen Field...
Especially with kids, and in the rain lol
Real Salt Lake had an agreement with Real Madrid as far as player development when they came into the league. I don't think it ever went anywhere though.
That Inter Miami stadium is an erector park. It's not meant to be there permanently. They ended up building there because they can't get the city to let them build something inside Miami itself. They brought in Messi partially to expedite getting a new stadium where they want one.
Providence Park (Portland Timbers) was a baseball stadium for minor league baseball up until the Timbers joined MLS. The Timber were still sharing the stadium right up until the final two years before joining MLS.
For Yankee Stadium, the hardest thing to do is take the dirt off the pitcher's mound. The sightlines for fans aren't the best either. The reason they play there instead of MetLife is that it's free to play at Yankee Stadium because the Yankees are invested in this with City Group.
Bank of America Stadium needs to switch back to grass. Too may players get injured on the turf.
If you're making the Columbus game for City vs Chelsea, you have to go to downtown. The hockey stadium, baseball stadium and Crew stadium (Lower.Com) are all within a miles walk of each other.
Wow, Daz. You are way off on when the NFL started. The first professional game was played October 1920. Football goes back way back and college football was played back in the 1880s. And Gillette Stadium fills up for soccer. We even saw the Women’s World Cup there in 1999 and it was full. The Revolution are frequently in the MLS finals.
As currently constituted, with divisions and a championship game with a schedule format similar one year to the next, the NFL dates to 1933.
New York City Fc and inter Miami are all getting there own stadium by next season im pretty sure
Yeah MLS Teams started with great American Style Names, and then expansion teams came in and tried to copy European convention of SC, FC, United, Inter ect.
Even my Columbus Crew were rebranded as Columbus Crew SC and then our new owners tried to rebrand to Columbus SC and we revolted and they changed us back to Columbus Crew
Pizza Hut Park in Dallas is known as ""the pizza oven". We are not joking when we are saying it's 800 degrees and we are going to actually die. Dallas is otherwise a very nice city.
Inter Miami C.F. is builing a new 500 million stadium.