Nah you’re wrong and you’re the problem the type of fan that uses his heart over business. He’s a liability trade really now he’s a liability. He’s not bad but he’s not that good either you can get better players for him. Stop
@@bottumthedreamer8735 People like the op are the cult side of laker fandom. They just want something to hate. Sports ain't that serious buddy. Hate your government for giving 8bil of our tax dollars to foreign countries who do NOTHING for us. Sports ain't serious enough to have hatred for. A strong dislike, anti this yeah. But "HATE" thats a strong word buddy. A lot of y'all need to take a step out of the sports world into the real one and you will find righteous things to HATE
I will never understand the "well when vanderbilt gets back" he's played 0 basketball. Also perfect day for this to come out as im watching the lakers are getting DOMINATED on the boards against the rockets.
john collins is an underrated trade piece that the lakers need. a good rebounder that can also space the floor. him with AD in the starting lineup is 🔥🔥
Not only does Charlotte have a center willing to play backup center role, they also have the young, athletic, dynamic guards/wings to make the deal transformative (Martin or Mann). Plus the Hornets are in the opposite conference too. Pelinka needs to talk to the Hornets instead of talking to a stubborn Utah.
Gabe and FRP for Ayo and Craig JHS and Wood for Davion Mitchell Keep all the rotation player and get more athletic. AR, Mitchell Max, Ayo, Shake DFS, Knecht, Reddish LBJ, Rui AD, Hayes, Koloko
I like Ayo a lot on this team, I’ve recommended the same Ayo/Craig trade before lol. Ideally you could get away with sending just an unprotected swap and 2nds. Maybe if CHI preferred a 1st to a swap, OKC would send them a late 1st in exchange for an unprotected swap in like 2028. OKC did that before, and if I were them I’d value the upside of an LAL unprotected swap down the line more than a pick that’ll end up in the 20s when they have so many.
@@michaeloverton2437no one is holding their own against Jokic, so i think the focus on speed and athleticism is actuality quite good. Anyway, the center won’t be playing much during the playoffs.
@vcr1232 i know no one is stopping Joker but match-ups like that you need AD to rome around on D while Keesler is guarding Joker. Look at 2020, Howard and McGee guarded Joker mostly then didn't play much afterwards.
We need a rebounder. AD cannot do it all by himself with Bron non existing. Giving up more than 15 off rebounds to Rockets yesterday was very shameful. Pelinka never gets it.
Team should not be allowed to ask for multiple pics for regular players moving forward too many guys in the league are not even playing defense. The fact that teams are asking for two or more picks for players that aren’t averaging 15 points or more is crazy to me and needs to be addressed
Needs to be addressed? WTF are you talking about? This gettin a lot of likes is embarrassing for our society at large 😆😂🤣 Teams can do whatever they want asking for whatever they want and there is WAY more to basketball than PPG. “Needs to be addressed”?!?! How? There is literally nothin that can be done. Teams can negotiate whatever they want for players they have the rights to & pay millions of dollars! It’s all about supply and demand.
@ they’re easily could be a rule where you can’t ask for a certain amount of picks based off the stats of a player that would be very easy!! stop making excuses like things can’t be done. The fact is a lot of these guys go out there and don’t even take it seriously so for a team owner to be like give me three pics for a guy who’s not worth that is crazy.
If the Lakers don't get a big, position defending center, it is malpractice and negligence on Pelinka part, knowing damn well the West may still go through Nikola Jokic.
I know almost everyone wants a big for LA, but an athletic perimeter makes a lot of sense too. especially for the defensive end. teams shooting 3's like crazy on them it feels like. hayes and koloko seem to be doing ok. i like hayes' energy and athleticism and koloko will get better as he gets more reps in with the vets. i feel the busy month might help with that.
Everyone listening to the Lakers Film Room podcast could have told you that it was very unlikely that we would trade for a big after getting DFS since it looks like JJ wants to run a small ball lineup 😆
Keep Hayes and going for Valenciunas for one second round pick snd Hood Schofino. Vincent trade to Toronto for Bruce Brown snd second round pick snd the last one put Christian Wood and second round pick and first pick for CJ McCollum and Jose Alvarado. Lakers New Championship 🏆🏆🏆.
I do wanna see how Wood comes off the bench for this team. I remember wood playing great basketball with Bron for like a month or two when he first arrived in LA so I wanna see that happen again. He can obviously play with Bron and AD because of his ability to stretch the floor. I do wanna see how this team looks with wood and Vando back myself
Totally agree but every teams we turned to, they want to rape us😂😂they look at us like someone they could abused. They want all our future for their mediocre players. Utah, Portland, Toronto
I don't think there's a wing that's worth the Lakers going for. For what they'd have to give up. It's much cheaper and more realistic to go after a quality backup big that can maybe play some starter minutes. I'm definitely not interested in Brown for Rui and picks. How much better are you really getting when you're losing one of your best three-point shooters and you're basically just swapping players at that position? And you have to add picks just to make the move? What's even the point of that when Rui is already used to the system and you don't have to roll the dice to see how he plays on the team? If the Lakers really wanted an athletic guard who's pretty solid on defense and offense, they wouldn't needed D-Lo's expiring $18 mil contact that wasn't producing that much for the Lakers this season anyways. It's a bit too late and unrealistic at this point. Unless a team really wants Gabe and Vando which I highly doubt.
i mean Bruce is more versatile when it comes to positions. Yes we do lose Rui's shooting and scoring but Bruce can somewhat do that and adds better defense. Tricky situation I say don't trade Rui but put DFS in the starting group. To me, a backup big and another 3&D but one that can play 2-3 should be our focus and then find a PG in the buyout market. That's what i would do.
@@-13eNnY- Bruce is an atrocious shooter. I wouldn't trade Rui for him even if we got a pick back, let alone giving one. Have this people forgotten how vital is 3pt shooting in 2025? We are not the 2023 nuggets with Jokic, MPJ, Murray and KCP shooting 40% from 3. We have a non shooting center in AD, two guys that are 36-37% for the season in LeBron and Reaves, can we please not trade away spacing options for another guy that will hit the side of the backboard please? I dgaf about his cutting and moving, there is no space to cut and move if nobody can't shoot. Defense is important, but going from no defense to no offense isn't the solution. We need guys that can play both ends, and sorry but Brown is going to be ignored to load up in the paint against LeBron and AD. Also, he's coming from an injury. No thanks.
@12gark LeBron's been shooting 45% from the over the last 10 games. 38% for the season. He was shooting 45% before his month-long shooting slump as well. Definitely not 36%-37%.
@@-13eNnY- yeah, 38%, MASSIVE difference compared to 37%. And Reaves is at 35.7%, so technically ever less than the 36 I was talking about. If the only shooter I have on the floor is Lebron, just trade everyone and start over please.
somebody said he has never been able to comfortably win a starting spot on the hornets. I know he won't be starting here(most of the time), but him not being able to start on a team like the hornets does have me wondering. how good of a rimprotector is he tho?
@@antoine6760 he was averaging 2.5 blocks and a higher offensive rebound percentage than Kessler earlier in the season as a starter. Also more points per game than Kessler and a more polished game overall. He broke his rib and was out a bit. To be honest I’m more worried where his game is now as a backup again and after his injury. He did appear to have slipped a bit after Mark Williams returned. Still if we add a center, the price and the fit could make a lot of sense for Nick. I may be more in the minority though in that I don’t care if we add a center if all we want is another backup. I like Koloko a lot I’d be fine if we move one in a trade and move Koloko up. Plus I just don’t trust that JJ has any real interest in a two big game 95 percent of the time.
The question I wonder is if you can get Ayo Dosunmu. I think he is an ideal fit at the 2 for us. Not a high usage, very complementary player. Very Athletic ball handler, good size, good defender, solid offensive player. Would compliment AR and at 24 they could be a good backcourt for some time.
I agree with this. He was giving Caruso a run for his money and Caruso was super underrated and is probably about worth his new contract. I can see Ayo becoming just like Caruso tbh.
@@bfns2353 they do want to keep him, but he is a 4th guard behind Giddey, White, and Lavine (with no guarantee they can or will move him). If they get to keep the draft pick, they may also draft another guard (whoever is best) and have to move him. Not to mention just the long term contract issues if they pay White and Giddey. No clue where they truly stand but they have publicly said they may have to move him or White if unable to make other moves.
@@evanstone7656 I agree. Ayo, Vuc and Craig would be huge. If they called up Vuc and he was willing to buy into a 25 min bench role mostly, we need scoring off the bench a lot. Vuc may not be a defensive center but he is one of the best offensive production pieces we can afford and at a position we could use depth at. His offensive metrics and rebounding are better than Rui’s in every major category. That said, I also understand the desire to prioritize wing depth, perimeter defense and athleticism.
Look i understand the desire to get faster and more athletic as well and the majority of teams in league Lakers wouldn't have a issue going against in terms of needing more size. HOWEVER what we've seen in 2 straight playoff losses to nuggets and going 0-2 vs cavs this season is that teams with big lineups will continue to be a problem for us until the Lakers get a better backup big. If the Lakers don't get another big there basically banking on that they wouldn't play a big sized team in playoffs like nuggets. If that's the case instead of playing nuggets your playing teams like Memphis, Houston, okc, Dallas it's one thing. But again your banking a lot that you won't get matched up against a big team like nuggets and if you do your basically again in a bad spot. Also the Cavs are the best team in league. The celtics are another top level team unfortunately and also have a bit of size. New york is another good team and has a lot of size. 76ers as bad as they've started the season they have a lot of size and could be dangerous in playoffs. If the Lakers want to win a championship the likely hood is whoever comes outta the east is gonna be a big team and then Lakers would be to small. We need a better backup big. Hayes is a third string guy. He's not bad but he's not gonna help us a lot in many of the matchups and Wood who hasn't played yet this season isn't a defensive big. Preferably we get a upgrade at the back up big spot and add maybe one more athletic guard/ wing.
Rob said the same thing prior to the 2024 trade deadline and he did nothing. Rob claimed to want a faster, longer, more athletic backcourt. The only way they could do that is trade Reeves.
More faster & athletic doesn't necessarily mean they won't target another big man. Robert Williams III, Nick Richards, Day'ron Sharpe (I doubt he's available now & if he was, maybe the Lakers would've gotten him), maybe Duop Reath from Portland. I don't see the Lakers getting another wing or guard on the trade market without trading Rui and I don't see them trading Rui
Trade JHS, Gabe, Wood for anybody. I don’t understand Rob. It’s low price centers besides Kessler we can go after like Missi, Theis, Duren, Powell, Richards, Valanciunas, Adams, Landale, Fernando, Looney, Nance, Thompson, Sharpe. It doesn’t even have to be someone that’s well known, just get a physical body in the paint to play next to AD. This is needed against teams like Grizzlies, Nuggets, Timberwolves. I wouldn’t trade Rui for a big salary player. I would trade Gabe and Vando together for a big salary player like Vucevic or Capela. We can start AD with another big and keep Hayes as the backup big. Koloko can fill in when Hayes is injured. For athleticism, we should try to trade for players like Collin Sexton, Kelly Oubre, Derrick Jones Jr, Kyle Kuzma, John Collins, Keldon Johnson, Peyton Watson, and more. Also we could get more bench scoring from players like Donte Divencio, Jordan Clarkson, Eric Gordon.
My birthday is January 22 but the Lakers have a game on January 21 vs Washington I will be 39 and I will love the Lakers to win the game by 39 if not I will like for Lebron AD or AR to go for 39. Keep up the good work Let's go Lakers
Bruce Brown LMAO I think its been a while since a plahyer lived up to the reputation of playing with one of the best in the NBA LMAO he hasnt done shxt since the joker carry is xss to a championship. The man spends MINIMUM half the season injured and MAKES 23M ????? LMAO
@@Skais834 Yes you’re right. Bruce hasn’t lived up to his contract since Indiana signed him to it (hence why they traded him to Toronto). In the original comment I mentioned personally, I would prioritize Cody Martin over Bruce Brown just based off salary and injury history.
Waiting for Vanderbilt is a mistake. All that'll trigger is less minutes for Rui, Knecht, Dorian Finney-Smith & Christie AND less offense, since Vanderbilt is offensively challeged. In short, Vanderbilt creates an unnecessary logjam and Lakers will be in another situation to where it's obvious they need to make a trade and every team knows it so they lowball them. And people wonder why th Lakers always get lowballed because they always try to make moves way too late🤷♂️
Same situation they had the past couple years. They can compete with any team just have to cross your fingers they don’t face Nuggets in the playoffs. They don’t have big body for joker. Davis too small for him.
This is smart. Jokic lit up Kessler for 36/22/11. Davion Mitchell is a good POA defender and has a good contract. Anfernee Simons is a beast scorer and playmaker. Also a reasonable contract. We have assets to get both without gutting our roster.
This team just got 2 athletic players, need to stay with that philosophy! A center if they can get a 245 lb guy who can jump, run, shoot a bit from 3 would be fitting, but not to many around or available! I’d rather give up Gabe than Rui. Rui is very playable & fits our team.
A back up C that won't play much behind AD is low on the priority list. What they really need is a point guard. As it's constructed, it would have to be a two way guard to play alongside AR or it would be another DLO/AR and likely a downgrade. It's going to be hard to find a point guard that can fit next to AR. It would be a lot easier to find a one way point guard that can run the offense and then look to replace AR with a 3&D player.
I think the Dan Woike piece is really pointing to something else, more specific. Lakers do NOT need a slower older Center NEXT to AD. This piece touches on many things including the desire to be quicker and more athletic. Combining everything, it makes most sense to what many of us have stated - NO large contracts on aging slower Bigs, meaning both big Vs are out. Split the resources in terms of salaries and picks between a cheaper backup big (Kessler or Richards would be ideal), and an athletic defensive playmaker guard or wing.
I read about a three team trade with charlotte & Toronto that would land LA with Brown, Richards and Abgtail. Is there anybody else who has read this article?
Shaq always asked for a proper big to back him up and lakers never obliged until they signed Benoit Benjamin then cut him. Oh and with lonzo talk, let’s add him to the list of 9 former lakers management is trying to get back! Common denominator to all these fails? Management!
I like the plan to add more defense on the perimeter. The Lakers are never gonna get out of the West if they can’t at least slow down guys like Luka, Murray, Shai, and Ja.
What about that kylor kelley center from the south bay lakers... he seems pretty athletic to me and dominant enough in the g league to perhaps give him a chance if indeed the lakers are looking to reinforce the center position
I don't know if I agree with this take. Lakers biggest need is Rebounding and Interior defensive help for AD. If you can't get both then at least get a rebounder / scorer. Vucevic would fit perfect on LA the way he rebounds and scores.
No trade for a big =putting on the season. We are like the only team without a center and so many of the rebounding and defense issues are because AD has to do it all
Salary wise, the Rui and Hayes/Wood plus the remaining 2nd round pick for Myles Turner is possible. Turner can do what rui and wood/hayes can do, right? Should they get Turner instead? Then go for nick richards for JHS and Hayes/wood. Then go for D.Smith, Jr. in the FA market for the available slot in the rooster.
So with all this time off has Vando been working like a madman to get his 3pt shot fixed or has he been just chillin? He has had a lot of time off, I know a foot injury can make shooting difficult but I'm sure he's had plenty of time where he could be working on his shot.
I think Kessler doesn’t pass the eye test, but he’s a very good player and does stuff like DFS that doesn’t always show on the stat sheet. With enough playing time, he’s easily a walking double double with 2-3 blocks per night. I can’t say what he’s worth, but if the Lakers could even get John Collins + another guard, I wouldn’t mind that either
We definitely need more athletic guys who can defend and fly up and down the floor. Houston showed us that last night. And when you see teams like Boston, OKC, and Memphis, you can see why they’re sitting atop the league. Youth, athleticism, and defense, with a couple of big time scorers to round out the roster. That’s the way to go. I still like Kessler for us. But Ainge is never gonna play fair with us. And we don’t need to get fleeced again.
I think the Lakers should look into getting both Donte DiVincenzo, and Isaiah Stewart. Brings toughness/energy on the defensive side, people that know their role. A decent 3pt shooting big. A ball handler who knows how to play off the ball. Food for thought Or, try to trade off salary for the buyout market and really try to get Lonzo 😂
If not Kessler, pivot to Nick Richards. Cheaper option, but a solid (strong/athletic) backup center. Would still likely have 1sts available to get a guard/wing.
This means they wanted a first round pick for 23 Years Old Prime Good Center in Walker that's 2nd in block shots. So the Cheap Lakers GM in Bum Pelinka and Owners in Buss Bratz said no. Remembered Bum Pelinka & Buss Bratz publicly said no on Kyrie Irving for 2 first that they used on Carbon Copy Bootleg Kyrie in DLo & Overrated Vanderbilt and Knecht costing the Lakers Lebron & AD a Championship plus 2 finals appearances? That didn't age well.
Lonzo ball.... are you serious!!! Come on.. stop with that nonsense... the Lakers don't need to be paying an injury prone player that hasn't provin anything
TREVOR! No if Lakers have a healthy Vando then they only need ONE solid move and they can beat anybody. There’s only 1 or 2 teams with 2 top 15 players besides the Lakers. If lakers can’t win with a Dejounte Murray or Bruce Brown then they DON’T deserve to win it all. Period!
Gabe Vincent, Jarred Vanderbilt, Jalen Hood-Schifino, and both the 2029/2031 1st Rd picks to the Hornets for Brandon Miller, Cody Martin, and Nick Richards.
An healthy Lonzo would be absolutely everything this team needs. If he looks good enter this trade deadline we should get him. The upside of this team would be insane from that move alone and you’d still have 2 1sts
@@TyrellClay I don't know if we'll see a healthy Lonzo ever again, let alone this season. He only played half the games and is shooting terribly. I wouldn't waste 20M of matching salaries plus assets to get him. Maybe I'd try to snatch him in free agency if possible, that would be cool.
if they get no big and AD gets injured while playing almost all the 5 minutes then hopefully Pelinka finally gets FIRED every extra minute AD plays at the 5 at this point is on Pelinka!
You need a big because in the playoffs the game “SLOWS DOWN “you not gonna be running at that time.Its possession by possession.Cmon Rob Pelinka,think out of the box
my impression is that there's no really interesting guard targets out there. Bruce brown, sexton, etc., ehhh meh, only Andrew Nembhard and Josh Green are interesting. However it doesn't seem like the Pacers are going to be sellers, but who knows. As for Green, he's a project that's yet to develop and on a way too big of a contract for that, should be on a vet min or slightly more imo.
I don't understand why not just take JV for Gabe and 2nd... Yes, JV is not perfect, not for all matchups, but Gabe too! He's too small and many teams can attack him and he also gives you almost nothing offensively and he is always injured... JV is great rebounder, great inside scoring threat, can shoot mid range or three when open, good free throw shooter. Hes only problem is very slow feet. But still he would be perfect against guys like Adams yesterday.
Lakers will wait till deadline to make a trade as teams lower the asking price. Kessler isn’t that good. People making it seem like he’s Joker lol. I don’t see Lakers going back to the twin tower combo. If anything we just need a good backup big who can stay on the floor more than 10 min. Nick Richard’s I would love. Very underrated.
Lakers don't need a Center, they need another 3D Wing and a Scoring Guard Blazers is tanking, Lakers should get Simons for Vincent + Vando + 1 1st Rui + JHS + 1 1st for Hunter C - AD F - DFS F - Hunter F - Bron G - AR Bench C - Hayes F - Reddish G - Knecht G - Max G - Simons
If you could get Lonzo for Vando, Gabe and 1 1st swap? Kinda pay so they eat the Vando contract, would it be worth the risk? And then give 2 first for Walker Kessler if that does it.
If A.D. plays the way we all know he can play and we get a little more defense out of Jaxon Hayes this new roster can go all the way even if we don’t make anymore trades
People disrespecting Rui too much, dude is solid, not guaranteed the player u get back is better
FACTS
They only say that to lower value
@@tdot8146 Cam Johnson is better
Nah you’re wrong and you’re the problem the type of fan that uses his heart over business. He’s a liability trade really now he’s a liability. He’s not bad but he’s not that good either you can get better players for him. Stop
@@Creamcity414 how is he a liability?
I ain’t counting on Utah to help us at all not with Danny Ainge running the show over there Danny Ainge hates the Lakers as much as we hate his ass
Lakers traded twice with Utah in 2023 so that’s false
Lakers dealt with Utah and undone the Westbrook problem. Plz quit spreading that lie
Exactly.
Exactly.
@@bottumthedreamer8735 People like the op are the cult side of laker fandom. They just want something to hate.
Sports ain't that serious buddy. Hate your government for giving 8bil of our tax dollars to foreign countries who do NOTHING for us. Sports ain't serious enough to have hatred for. A strong dislike, anti this yeah. But "HATE" thats a strong word buddy. A lot of y'all need to take a step out of the sports world into the real one and you will find righteous things to HATE
I will never understand the "well when vanderbilt gets back" he's played 0 basketball. Also perfect day for this to come out as im watching the lakers are getting DOMINATED on the boards against the rockets.
john collins is an underrated trade piece that the lakers need. a good rebounder that can also space the floor. him with AD in the starting lineup is 🔥🔥
That mane trash we do not need him
That's right, Trevor. Don't be telling the world that we're desperate for Walker Kessler. It'll only raise the price.
If It's not Kessler ... Then let's go for Nick Richards, my 2nd choice.
been said this
Nick Richards, is a good second choice
Nick Richard’s is meh when did this whole nick Richard’s thing start
Dayron sharpe is solid af as well
Not only does Charlotte have a center willing to play backup center role, they also have the young, athletic, dynamic guards/wings to make the deal transformative (Martin or Mann).
Plus the Hornets are in the opposite conference too.
Pelinka needs to talk to the Hornets instead of talking to a stubborn Utah.
Gabe and FRP for Ayo and Craig
JHS and Wood for Davion Mitchell
Keep all the rotation player and get more athletic.
AR, Mitchell
Max, Ayo, Shake
DFS, Knecht, Reddish
LBJ, Rui
AD, Hayes, Koloko
I like Ayo a lot on this team, I’ve recommended the same Ayo/Craig trade before lol. Ideally you could get away with sending just an unprotected swap and 2nds. Maybe if CHI preferred a 1st to a swap, OKC would send them a late 1st in exchange for an unprotected swap in like 2028. OKC did that before, and if I were them I’d value the upside of an LAL unprotected swap down the line more than a pick that’ll end up in the 20s when they have so many.
Still need a solid Big in case of injuries and Koloko is only on a 2 way.
More than solid actually,one who can handle the centers who Davis can’t.
Nick Richards
yup next best(cheap) option
Idk not really sold on him . Yes he’s 7 foot but not much of a shot blocker . Or to guard like a Jokic and embiid type of player. But could be wrong
Chip time if we get him for sure
@@demetriushall1810 He's decent, cheap, and won't cost much draft capital.
I wasnt that high on Kessler anyway. & Jazz wanted too much for an average player.
Very avg
Tbh, you don’t need him to be outstanding you need him just to hold his own especially against bigs like Joker
@@michaeloverton2437no one is holding their own against Jokic, so i think the focus on speed and athleticism is actuality quite good. Anyway, the center won’t be playing much during the playoffs.
@vcr1232 i know no one is stopping Joker but match-ups like that you need AD to rome around on D while Keesler is guarding Joker. Look at 2020, Howard and McGee guarded Joker mostly then didn't play much afterwards.
@ bro last time jokic matched up with Kessler he had 36-22-11 😂
We need a rebounder. AD cannot do it all by himself with Bron non existing. Giving up more than 15 off rebounds to Rockets yesterday was very shameful. Pelinka never gets it.
Team should not be allowed to ask for multiple pics for regular players moving forward too many guys in the league are not even playing defense. The fact that teams are asking for two or more picks for players that aren’t averaging 15 points or more is crazy to me and needs to be addressed
Needs to be addressed? WTF are you talking about? This gettin a lot of likes is embarrassing for our society at large 😆😂🤣
Teams can do whatever they want asking for whatever they want and there is WAY more to basketball than PPG.
“Needs to be addressed”?!?! How? There is literally nothin that can be done. Teams can negotiate whatever they want for players they have the rights to & pay millions of dollars! It’s all about supply and demand.
Walker Kessler is not normal he’s a high level starter and only 23.
Answer is teams need to not trade for them. it’s all bargaining anyway.
@ they’re easily could be a rule where you can’t ask for a certain amount of picks based off the stats of a player that would be very easy!! stop making excuses like things can’t be done. The fact is a lot of these guys go out there and don’t even take it seriously so for a team owner to be like give me three pics for a guy who’s not worth that is crazy.
@@josiahross2463 high level starter on a single digit win team in crazy.
I kinda feel like this is the first time I am like Ok Rob your thinking strategic and better
He been strategic, what you talking about??
@@jayc5756 strategically horrific since summer 2021?
@@superdopehiphop He's been pretty good since he got rid of Ham
@ lol has he please explain
You been handing out player options, hasn’t moved in the trades, you need a point guard
@@Datdude1981he’s just talking . Recency bias because Rob just made a trade
If the Lakers don't get a big, position defending center, it is malpractice and negligence on Pelinka part, knowing damn well the West may still go through Nikola Jokic.
It didnt go through him last year. He lost in the 2nd round.
Jokic will get his. We couldn’t beat them bc Murray and MPJ went off on us. I think we solve that with Max and DFS
For the millionth time. Nobody is stopping Jokic. Better plan is to stop the guys around him
They will never get it. Acting as if there was somebody out there who could really take Jokic out.@@pnine23
Bro, lakers cannot play AD at the 4 and we do not need a center for Jokic when ADs minutes are tied to Jokics
Just listing to the report (which I don’t put much into them) the reports been saying they weren’t looking for older player with the draft picks.
Lakers have an athletic big in Hayes. Lakers can make him play like Derek Lively or D Gafford of the Mavs.
I know almost everyone wants a big for LA, but an athletic perimeter makes a lot of sense too. especially for the defensive end. teams shooting 3's like crazy on them it feels like. hayes and koloko seem to be doing ok. i like hayes' energy and athleticism and koloko will get better as he gets more reps in with the vets. i feel the busy month might help with that.
Everyone listening to the Lakers Film Room podcast could have told you that it was very unlikely that we would trade for a big after getting DFS since it looks like JJ wants to run a small ball lineup 😆
They can't wait a few weeks, Go ahead and make the trades and build chemistry
These clowns want to see if they can keep those first round picks.
@royalbloodline5610 is showed tonight too
Seems like Vanderbilt hasn’t played in 2 1/2 years. Ready to move on from him and Vincent on the fastest thing smoking.
Keep Hayes and going for Valenciunas for one second round pick snd Hood Schofino. Vincent trade to Toronto for Bruce Brown snd second round pick snd the last one put Christian Wood and second round pick and first pick for CJ McCollum and Jose Alvarado. Lakers New Championship 🏆🏆🏆.
What’s up with Vando when the hell will he play
I’m saying man has been out for 3 years 😂
Season debut on Feb 6 vs the Warriors
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DEC. 1 2024..😂😂😂
A mythological figure
Apparently Lakers want to see what the second unit can do before making a trade for a big.
Any trade for that matter. I do think Cody Martin would be a great fit on this Lakers roster especially come playoffs.
@@icecoldac3why not? An athletic guy who can shoot 3’s and defend multiple positions. Even though I wound prefer a Donte Divincenzo.
@@icecoldac3Cody would be a nice pick up for our offense but can he play defense?
I do wanna see how Wood comes off the bench for this team. I remember wood playing great basketball with Bron for like a month or two when he first arrived in LA so I wanna see that happen again. He can obviously play with Bron and AD because of his ability to stretch the floor. I do wanna see how this team looks with wood and Vando back myself
@ Wood will be solid for us and a hidden surprise. Think of Wood as a more athletic version of Marc Gasol. Three point shooting stretch big.
If these clowns don't get a proper banger big for those certain matchups it's over. Getting sick of it 🤮🤮🤮 AD needs to be at the 4 for Denver.
Totally agree but every teams we turned to, they want to rape us😂😂they look at us like someone they could abused. They want all our future for their mediocre players. Utah, Portland, Toronto
It's not that important AD is a better match up than Walker is.
the dream of a real center and AD at the 4 again is never going to happen :(
I don't think there's a wing that's worth the Lakers going for. For what they'd have to give up. It's much cheaper and more realistic to go after a quality backup big that can maybe play some starter minutes. I'm definitely not interested in Brown for Rui and picks.
How much better are you really getting when you're losing one of your best three-point shooters and you're basically just swapping players at that position? And you have to add picks just to make the move? What's even the point of that when Rui is already used to the system and you don't have to roll the dice to see how he plays on the team?
If the Lakers really wanted an athletic guard who's pretty solid on defense and offense, they wouldn't needed D-Lo's expiring $18 mil contact that wasn't producing that much for the Lakers this season anyways. It's a bit too late and unrealistic at this point. Unless a team really wants Gabe and Vando which I highly doubt.
Plus you lose size. Rui plays the 5 at times. He definitely should come off the bench as an pf/c.
i mean Bruce is more versatile when it comes to positions. Yes we do lose Rui's shooting and scoring but Bruce can somewhat do that and adds better defense. Tricky situation I say don't trade Rui but put DFS in the starting group. To me, a backup big and another 3&D but one that can play 2-3 should be our focus and then find a PG in the buyout market. That's what i would do.
@@-13eNnY- Bruce is an atrocious shooter. I wouldn't trade Rui for him even if we got a pick back, let alone giving one.
Have this people forgotten how vital is 3pt shooting in 2025? We are not the 2023 nuggets with Jokic, MPJ, Murray and KCP shooting 40% from 3.
We have a non shooting center in AD, two guys that are 36-37% for the season in LeBron and Reaves, can we please not trade away spacing options for another guy that will hit the side of the backboard please?
I dgaf about his cutting and moving, there is no space to cut and move if nobody can't shoot.
Defense is important, but going from no defense to no offense isn't the solution. We need guys that can play both ends, and sorry but Brown is going to be ignored to load up in the paint against LeBron and AD. Also, he's coming from an injury. No thanks.
@12gark LeBron's been shooting 45% from the over the last 10 games. 38% for the season. He was shooting 45% before his month-long shooting slump as well. Definitely not 36%-37%.
@@-13eNnY- yeah, 38%, MASSIVE difference compared to 37%. And Reaves is at 35.7%, so technically ever less than the 36 I was talking about.
If the only shooter I have on the floor is Lebron, just trade everyone and start over please.
We are cooked if we don’t get AD help against big centers like Jokic and Zubac.
Joker, yes, z no no he can get past him. Maybe D. Ayton if the blazers decide to move on.
If you talked more about Kessler, then his value goes up, the Jazz would ask more😉
Nick Richards is very athletic and would be a great fit. Not sure dynamic fits the description, however.
somebody said he has never been able to comfortably win a starting spot on the hornets. I know he won't be starting here(most of the time), but him not being able to start on a team like the hornets does have me wondering. how good of a rimprotector is he tho?
@@antoine6760 he was averaging 2.5 blocks and a higher offensive rebound percentage than Kessler earlier in the season as a starter. Also more points per game than Kessler and a more polished game overall. He broke his rib and was out a bit. To be honest I’m more worried where his game is now as a backup again and after his injury. He did appear to have slipped a bit after Mark Williams returned. Still if we add a center, the price and the fit could make a lot of sense for Nick.
I may be more in the minority though in that I don’t care if we add a center if all we want is another backup. I like Koloko a lot I’d be fine if we move one in a trade and move Koloko up. Plus I just don’t trust that JJ has any real interest in a two big game 95 percent of the time.
The question I wonder is if you can get Ayo Dosunmu. I think he is an ideal fit at the 2 for us. Not a high usage, very complementary player. Very Athletic ball handler, good size, good defender, solid offensive player. Would compliment AR and at 24 they could be a good backcourt for some time.
Is he available for a trade? You would think chi would wanna keep him
I agree with this. He was giving Caruso a run for his money and Caruso was super underrated and is probably about worth his new contract. I can see Ayo becoming just like Caruso tbh.
@@bfns2353 they do want to keep him, but he is a 4th guard behind Giddey, White, and Lavine (with no guarantee they can or will move him). If they get to keep the draft pick, they may also draft another guard (whoever is best) and have to move him. Not to mention just the long term contract issues if they pay White and Giddey. No clue where they truly stand but they have publicly said they may have to move him or White if unable to make other moves.
. Getting White would also be great imo, either of those guards could help the Lakers. And Vuc and you meet the Lakers 2 big needs.
@@evanstone7656 I agree. Ayo, Vuc and Craig would be huge. If they called up Vuc and he was willing to buy into a 25 min bench role mostly, we need scoring off the bench a lot. Vuc may not be a defensive center but he is one of the best offensive production pieces we can afford and at a position we could use depth at. His offensive metrics and rebounding are better than Rui’s in every major category. That said, I also understand the desire to prioritize wing depth, perimeter defense and athleticism.
Look i understand the desire to get faster and more athletic as well and the majority of teams in league Lakers wouldn't have a issue going against in terms of needing more size. HOWEVER what we've seen in 2 straight playoff losses to nuggets and going 0-2 vs cavs this season is that teams with big lineups will continue to be a problem for us until the Lakers get a better backup big. If the Lakers don't get another big there basically banking on that they wouldn't play a big sized team in playoffs like nuggets. If that's the case instead of playing nuggets your playing teams like Memphis, Houston, okc, Dallas it's one thing. But again your banking a lot that you won't get matched up against a big team like nuggets and if you do your basically again in a bad spot. Also the Cavs are the best team in league. The celtics are another top level team unfortunately and also have a bit of size. New york is another good team and has a lot of size. 76ers as bad as they've started the season they have a lot of size and could be dangerous in playoffs. If the Lakers want to win a championship the likely hood is whoever comes outta the east is gonna be a big team and then Lakers would be to small. We need a better backup big. Hayes is a third string guy. He's not bad but he's not gonna help us a lot in many of the matchups and Wood who hasn't played yet this season isn't a defensive big.
Preferably we get a upgrade at the back up big spot and add maybe one more athletic guard/ wing.
Rob said the same thing prior to the 2024 trade deadline and he did nothing. Rob claimed to want a faster, longer, more athletic backcourt. The only way they could do that is trade Reeves.
Good we don’t need Kessler let’s focus on that point of attack guard like a Murray, or a Bruce Brown, defense, defense, and more defense!
More faster & athletic doesn't necessarily mean they won't target another big man. Robert Williams III, Nick Richards, Day'ron Sharpe (I doubt he's available now & if he was, maybe the Lakers would've gotten him), maybe Duop Reath from Portland. I don't see the Lakers getting another wing or guard on the trade market without trading Rui and I don't see them trading Rui
Trade JHS, Gabe, Wood for anybody. I don’t understand Rob. It’s low price centers besides Kessler we can go after like Missi, Theis, Duren, Powell, Richards, Valanciunas, Adams, Landale, Fernando, Looney, Nance, Thompson, Sharpe. It doesn’t even have to be someone that’s well known, just get a physical body in the paint to play next to AD. This is needed against teams like Grizzlies, Nuggets, Timberwolves. I wouldn’t trade Rui for a big salary player. I would trade Gabe and Vando together for a big salary player like Vucevic or Capela. We can start AD with another big and keep Hayes as the backup big. Koloko can fill in when Hayes is injured. For athleticism, we should try to trade for players like Collin Sexton, Kelly Oubre, Derrick Jones Jr, Kyle Kuzma, John Collins, Keldon Johnson, Peyton Watson, and more. Also we could get more bench scoring from players like Donte Divencio, Jordan Clarkson, Eric Gordon.
How about Mark Williams (Hornets center)
He fits that profile of Big
My birthday is January 22 but the Lakers have a game on January 21 vs Washington I will be 39 and I will love the Lakers to win the game by 39 if not I will like for Lebron AD or AR to go for 39.
Keep up the good work
Let's go Lakers
We went from NEEDING a traditional bruising big man to not …
💜💛Faster, athletic and dynamic on the perimeter. This piece SCREAMS Cody Martin or Bruce Brown to LA.💡Cody 8M works best for LA compared to Bruce 23M.
Bruce Brown LMAO I think its been a while since a plahyer lived up to the reputation of playing with one of the best in the NBA LMAO he hasnt done shxt since the joker carry is xss to a championship. The man spends MINIMUM half the season injured and MAKES 23M ????? LMAO
Bruce Brown is dirty ass cheeks
@@Skais834 Yes you’re right. Bruce hasn’t lived up to his contract since Indiana signed him to it (hence why they traded him to Toronto). In the original comment I mentioned personally, I would prioritize Cody Martin over Bruce Brown just based off salary and injury history.
Waiting for Vanderbilt is a mistake. All that'll trigger is less minutes for Rui, Knecht, Dorian Finney-Smith & Christie AND less offense, since Vanderbilt is offensively challeged. In short, Vanderbilt creates an unnecessary logjam and Lakers will be in another situation to where it's obvious they need to make a trade and every team knows it so they lowball them. And people wonder why th Lakers always get lowballed because they always try to make moves way too late🤷♂️
Same situation they had the past couple years. They can compete with any team just have to cross your fingers they don’t face Nuggets in the playoffs. They don’t have big body for joker. Davis too small for him.
This is smart. Jokic lit up Kessler for 36/22/11. Davion Mitchell is a good POA defender and has a good contract. Anfernee Simons is a beast scorer and playmaker. Also a reasonable contract. We have assets to get both without gutting our roster.
Lakers should get seth curry or luke kennard + other solid big for just 1st/2nd round picks and gabe vincent
This team just got 2 athletic players, need to stay with that philosophy! A center if they can get a 245 lb guy who can jump, run, shoot a bit from 3 would be fitting, but not to many around or available! I’d rather give up Gabe than Rui. Rui is very playable & fits our team.
A back up C that won't play much behind AD is low on the priority list.
What they really need is a point guard. As it's constructed, it would have to be a two way guard to play alongside AR or it would be another DLO/AR and likely a downgrade.
It's going to be hard to find a point guard that can fit next to AR. It would be a lot easier to find a one way point guard that can run the offense and then look to replace AR with a 3&D player.
I think the Dan Woike piece is really pointing to something else, more specific. Lakers do NOT need a slower older Center NEXT to AD. This piece touches on many things including the desire to be quicker and more athletic. Combining everything, it makes most sense to what many of us have stated - NO large contracts on aging slower Bigs, meaning both big Vs are out. Split the resources in terms of salaries and picks between a cheaper backup big (Kessler or Richards would be ideal), and an athletic defensive playmaker guard or wing.
I read about a three team trade with charlotte & Toronto that would land LA with Brown, Richards and Abgtail. Is there anybody else who has read this article?
We need a defensive point guard that can stop the fast guards but can score Fox or LaMelo is perfect
Shaq always asked for a proper big to back him up and lakers never obliged until they signed Benoit Benjamin then cut him. Oh and with lonzo talk, let’s add him to the list of 9 former lakers management is trying to get back! Common denominator to all these fails? Management!
I like the plan to add more defense on the perimeter. The Lakers are never gonna get out of the West if they can’t at least slow down guys like Luka, Murray, Shai, and Ja.
@@ErikDayne and Max isn't going to be stopping Luka or Ant in the playoff. He's just too light, on top of being too young.
Those teams also have size which is the real reason the lakers struggle against those teams
Lakers need to dump Wood, Vincent, Hayes, Cam. Need to pick up a backup center.
I think the team like what rui brings why do we keep mentioning him in trades for people like sexton
Lakers should win 8/12 games next
What about that kylor kelley center from the south bay lakers... he seems pretty athletic to me and dominant enough in the g league to perhaps give him a chance if indeed the lakers are looking to reinforce the center position
I’m trading Vando and Vincent and JHS and Kokoko for a Big
Woods and Vando out for the season... thats why they made the trade for DFS..
Kessler can actually make the Lakers a contender. AD will have a true back up at the Center position.
I’ll take any legit center at this point…
I don't know if I agree with this take. Lakers biggest need is Rebounding and Interior defensive help for AD. If you can't get both then at least get a rebounder / scorer. Vucevic would fit perfect on LA the way he rebounds and scores.
No trade for a big =putting on the season. We are like the only team without a center and so many of the rebounding and defense issues are because AD has to do it all
Salary wise, the Rui and Hayes/Wood plus the remaining 2nd round pick for Myles Turner is possible. Turner can do what rui and wood/hayes can do, right? Should they get Turner instead? Then go for nick richards for JHS and Hayes/wood.
Then go for D.Smith, Jr. in the FA market for the available slot in the rooster.
Indy isn’t trading Myles Turner for seconds
What happened to the young center the Lakers signed from Toronto? I thought he was approved by NBA to play.
So with all this time off has Vando been working like a madman to get his 3pt shot fixed or has he been just chillin? He has had a lot of time off, I know a foot injury can make shooting difficult but I'm sure he's had plenty of time where he could be working on his shot.
He literally had water on the knee a month ago. It doesn’t look good.
He has definitely worked on his sweat outfit game.
I think Kessler doesn’t pass the eye test, but he’s a very good player and does stuff like DFS that doesn’t always show on the stat sheet.
With enough playing time, he’s easily a walking double double with 2-3 blocks per night.
I can’t say what he’s worth, but if
the Lakers could even get John Collins + another guard, I wouldn’t mind that either
We definitely need more athletic guys who can defend and fly up and down the floor. Houston showed us that last night. And when you see teams like Boston, OKC, and Memphis, you can see why they’re sitting atop the league. Youth, athleticism, and defense, with a couple of big time scorers to round out the roster. That’s the way to go. I still like Kessler for us. But Ainge is never gonna play fair with us. And we don’t need to get fleeced again.
I think the Lakers should look into getting both Donte DiVincenzo, and Isaiah Stewart. Brings toughness/energy on the defensive side, people that know their role. A decent 3pt shooting big. A ball handler who knows how to play off the ball. Food for thought
Or, try to trade off salary for the buyout market and really try to get Lonzo 😂
BRUH WE NOT ABOUT TO WIN PLAYING SMALL BALL WITH THIS TEAM! We need a big
The Lakers needs a real center to take some of that playing time at center for AD.
If not Kessler, pivot to Nick Richards. Cheaper option, but a solid (strong/athletic) backup center. Would still likely have 1sts available to get a guard/wing.
Utah is very high on him they will not trade him.
This means they wanted a first round pick for 23 Years Old Prime Good Center in Walker that's 2nd in block shots. So the Cheap Lakers GM in Bum Pelinka and Owners in Buss Bratz said no.
Remembered Bum Pelinka & Buss Bratz publicly said no on Kyrie Irving for 2 first that they used on Carbon Copy Bootleg Kyrie in DLo & Overrated Vanderbilt and Knecht costing the Lakers Lebron & AD a Championship plus 2 finals appearances? That didn't age well.
What makes you think the Jazz are crazy about trading for the Lakers' leftovers? Danny Ainge is a genius for Pelinka.
Lakers should inquire about Matisse Thybulle POR or Cody Martin CHA for better perimeter defensive guard/wing depth.
Lonzo ball.... are you serious!!! Come on.. stop with that nonsense... the Lakers don't need to be paying an injury prone player that hasn't provin anything
Kai Sotto, 7'3" free agent center , played with yuki nakawara in japan. Better than koloko. Plays like wemby
TREVOR! No if Lakers have a healthy Vando then they only need ONE solid move and they can beat anybody.
There’s only 1 or 2 teams with 2 top 15 players besides the Lakers.
If lakers can’t win with a Dejounte Murray or Bruce Brown then they DON’T deserve to win it all. Period!
We need a player/players that raises our ceiling.That is all that matters. Is sexton going to raise our ceiling? Cody martin? Cummon man
Lakers need a reliable offensive role player. Like monk, Lavert, someone who can efficiently give them 18.
Been saying don’t get a big cuz ain’t to many bigs can’t move like that needs wings
I like AD playing more minutes at the PF, I think we need a 5, so AD can slide down to the 4 more
I would think they at least gotta squeeze a practice in somewhere during that long homestay next week.
I would stack the deck and get Nick Richards and DayRon Sharpe. Make it difficult on teams in the postseason
Gabe Vincent, Jarred Vanderbilt, Jalen Hood-Schifino, and both the 2029/2031 1st Rd picks to the Hornets for Brandon Miller, Cody Martin, and Nick Richards.
Charlotte laughs and hangs up
damn i honestly forgot all about christian wood being on the team
Trade him woods vando shilpio gabe
An healthy Lonzo would be absolutely everything this team needs. If he looks good enter this trade deadline we should get him. The upside of this team would be insane from that move alone and you’d still have 2 1sts
@@TyrellClay I don't know if we'll see a healthy Lonzo ever again, let alone this season. He only played half the games and is shooting terribly.
I wouldn't waste 20M of matching salaries plus assets to get him. Maybe I'd try to snatch him in free agency if possible, that would be cool.
"healthy Lonzo" is an oxymoron.
If they want toughness, I'd prefer Isaiah Stewart lol. We need a bruiser and fighter on our team to make players hesitate when entering the post.
if they get no big and AD gets injured while playing almost all the 5 minutes then hopefully Pelinka finally gets FIRED every extra minute AD plays at the 5 at this point is on Pelinka!
The Lakers trade deadline team👍🏿👍🏿👀👍🏿
We need a two way guard and a tough center to compete
You need a big because in the playoffs the game “SLOWS DOWN “you not gonna be running at that time.Its possession by possession.Cmon Rob Pelinka,think out of the box
my impression is that there's no really interesting guard targets out there. Bruce brown, sexton, etc., ehhh meh, only Andrew Nembhard and Josh Green are interesting. However it doesn't seem like the Pacers are going to be sellers, but who knows. As for Green, he's a project that's yet to develop and on a way too big of a contract for that, should be on a vet min or slightly more imo.
Nembhard isn't available
I don't understand why not just take JV for Gabe and 2nd... Yes, JV is not perfect, not for all matchups, but Gabe too! He's too small and many teams can attack him and he also gives you almost nothing offensively and he is always injured... JV is great rebounder, great inside scoring threat, can shoot mid range or three when open, good free throw shooter. Hes only problem is very slow feet. But still he would be perfect against guys like Adams yesterday.
I think if we were gonna get gim, we would've heard something by now. Same with Jonas!
Lakers will wait till deadline to make a trade as teams lower the asking price. Kessler isn’t that good. People making it seem like he’s Joker lol. I don’t see Lakers going back to the twin tower combo. If anything we just need a good backup big who can stay on the floor more than 10 min. Nick Richard’s I would love. Very underrated.
I don’t care if my backup big puts in a bunch of cardio. I want him to put up 8-10 rebounds off the bench per game
Lakers don't need a Center, they need another 3D Wing and a Scoring Guard
Blazers is tanking, Lakers should get Simons for Vincent + Vando + 1 1st
Rui + JHS + 1 1st for Hunter
C - AD
F - DFS
F - Hunter
F - Bron
G - AR
Bench
C - Hayes
F - Reddish
G - Knecht
G - Max
G - Simons
If you could get Lonzo for Vando, Gabe and 1 1st swap? Kinda pay so they eat the Vando contract, would it be worth the risk? And then give 2 first for Walker Kessler if that does it.
so would the lakers aim for an okc type of line up
Koloko is in the same page like Kessler. So we should give more play time to Koloko to be matured.
If A.D. plays the way we all know he can play and we get a little more defense out of Jaxon Hayes this new roster can go all the way even if we don’t make anymore trades