@@bertg5294 Uh... no. "Me: That's why I'm here." is not a grammatical sentence that calls for "I". Using "I" would not be any more correct than using "me". There is no verb or object to refer to "I".
@@bertg5294 *"It is correct to say 'I say', not 'me say', idiot." *You *A full stop is one '.' dot and an ellipsis is three '...' dots. Two dots '..' means nothing. Believe it or not, I know what point you are ham-fistedly trying to make. I countered with why an argument for why that rule doesn't apply in this particular situation, which you conveniently ignored. "I say, not me say" implies a grammatical sentence structure that was not present in my initial comment. Thus, that rule may as well not apply, because both "I" and "me" are incorrect in that context. I suggest you leave correcting grammar to those who actually study it. If you won't, then I can't and won't help you.
It's just mud playing below the lowest A with octave pedals, I've never heard anyone do that and make it sound good. Mostly I hear it in demos like these. Unlike others in the comments I do not question your ability as a bass-player, just what relevance it has in a musical setting
I played bass in a three piece rock band (gtr-bass-drms) and the guitarist played in "D-standard" so I de tuned my bass a whole step low to meet him. D-G-C-F. I was able to get an Octave pedal to track as low as an open D on my Jazz bass. FIRST mix in more dry signal. No way you can track "fast" with the effect on full effect saturation. SECOND Octave pedals absolutely love basses with flatwound strings. You get way better tracking with flatwounds. THIRD use a bass with single coil pickups like a Jazz bass. Turn up the bridge p/u and pick or finger pluck as far back toward the bridge as you can.
the lowest note you can do is Eb0; thats one octave down+semitone from normal bass tuning, its 20hz and no one can hear below that. To get it to sound good is all about what your amp and cab can do, and of course if your octaver can track properly.
9:00 I never heard someone play minus 2 octaves that low. Normally you play on the higher strings and get a descent deep sound to it. Using -2 octaves on the E string sounds too muddy.
You guys should pay attention for gain levels for each pedal. Octamizer, for example, is distorting all the way and people who don't know this pedal may find it muddy, which is not.
Octave on bass sounds so good, but it's a beast you need to tame. I find the Poly mode on the OC-3 is the most user friendly, as it doesn't glitch that easy.
@@bertg5294 babes disagree on dancefloors & in bedrooms every night; they are sub freqs and my name is mud. Tone shaping yes but to dismiss suboctaves as all mud i disagree
Best use of bass octave: POG2: Autobass transform and roll out... Bass player suddenly becomes pipe organist and drones super gigantic sounding two note chords.
In my experience Octavers need to be used very carefully and sparingly; either to get a 4 string down to the low B of a 5 string, or very subtly to add a little more weight/depth an octave lower to fatten your sound slightly (I believe Ashdown amps have their subharmonic generator which adds an octave lower). However trying to hammer out octaves below A on the E string just ends up with mud; your amp or cab is unlikely to cope and the tracking of almost all pedals goes out the window at high BPMs, when you most need accurate tracking. As shown in this demonstration all most pedals do is make your bass and rig sound shit.
thanks, think I am sold on the mxr, think i can handle it. the boss seems too crazy with cable options, the negative reviews on the mxr are mostly on tracking. i am no victor Wooten I'm a thumper so thanks for your down to earth attitude and ability to explain so I can make a better decision
I personally think the Polyphonic on the OC-3 is the best one. It doesn't affect the signal on the high notes and the effect kicks in on the lower frequencies which is nice. I just got this pedal but I won't be putting it on my board.
With all due respect; octave (down) pedals stop sounding good below the 7th fret, IMHO. That's like a low B on a 5-strings anyway. Playing below that, you lose clarity & tracking, making the pedals sound worse than they actually are.
I run my Bass thru a Boss OC-5 “Octave up” to a guitar amp , but i still get the Direct bass sound mixed in and sounds “synthy”. What is the best pedal for true “zero dry”?
Who the hell cares what the pedals purpose is. Just do what sounds good to you. You could lay down some major grooves live with this and the crowd would be lovvvvving it
Ik play bass in a rockband with one guitarist. I do not groove like you do, but bang the bass with a plectrum ZZ top style (I know he play with fingers) I am looking for a pedal that gives the extra punch whe the guitar is playing solo. What do you recomend? I have a booster, Ampeg scrambler and chorus in my rack
in summary; bass octavers have a lot development required yet before they really do what they say they do. Don't get me wrong it was fun, but every pedal went "oof" in a different way.
OK last thing, you shouldn't be playing them right at the bottom of the neck...oh fuckit, watch pedals and effects instead, they'll tell you what's what
Great video!!..nice details!!..so cool of you to take the time out to deliver a fine upload!!...(years ago I see)..on these Bass Pedals!!..(you should’ve gotten some royalties payments for the promo you brought to the respective companies!!..❗️📣$$$due to him executives!!) BTW,..sure would like to know more about that Bass used in the video!! Maker etc;...🙏🏾pls!...such a kick ass tone!!..(but that headstock design...nah!...could’ve considered & represented the body shape better don’t cha think??..🤔🎶🎸) 🎸✨Something brand iconic trendy! Guess I could’ve commented years ago huh?..had I known...😒
using the boss oc-3 in poly mode with a 7-string guitar (with direct out to guitar amp and output to a bass amp) i noticed a huge volume difference between 7th string and the other string. anyone else noticed this? so far i have resorted to a compressor after the output to keep level same between strings.
Here is how to get maximum tracking with an octave pedal: Jazz bass strung with flatwound strings, bridge p/u all the way up and neck p/u down. Pluck close to the bridge and if you plan on playing the lowest notes on the E string you must mix in more dry signal and come a little down on the octave effect. I actually play a Jazz bass that is de-tuned to D standard and even the open D sounds fairly acceptable to me.
I was kind of half listening to this while doing some work. Your energy makes it very hard to do a half listen and I can’t wait to watch and give this the attention it clearly deserves!
Are there any effects where you can play your bass, and it sounds like you have a rhythm guitar playing along? Especially with distortion. No idea what this would be called or if it exists. Thanks.
Hey Kav. You could use a pitch shifter like a Sub N Up or and mix in some of the original signal. There are probably better ways though... hmm... KRIS!!! //Andy
As some TH-camrs have demonstrated, you can use a Micro POG or Nano POG. You can run the dry output (your regular sound) to your bass amp and the wet output (one octave higher) through distortion and into a guitar amp. Another way to do this is to use a line splitter pedal and have different effects on your guitar and bass channels. Here's one well-done demo: th-cam.com/video/t91n83EdsrE/w-d-xo.html
Yes. The POG out of this group would be great for that. I use an MXR Sub Octave Bass Fuzz on my guitar board...i got it for my bass board but i ended up liking it better for guitar. 🤷 There are tons of octave effects out there, best thing to do is experiment to find what you like.
Those are just the five octavers our customers are interested in most. Of course there are lots of other nice pedals out there, maybe in another vid ;)
Not a good demo. Play higher notes to hear the true character of the sub octaves, and mid/low notes for the higher octaves. Otherwise we only hear muddy artifact-laden noise as you drive the effects past their useful musical range. For tracking, play fast staccato notes, scales, etc. Again play high for sub low for higher octave shift.
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The MXR sounded the best to my ears. Thanks for the review!
Woah!? What about the boss oc5. That was my favorite in this live setting. Id definitely think about using the analog mxr for recording though!!!
Amazing- your bass sounds better with NONE of these pedals on...;)
Normie
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fuck off nerd
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Number One Thing I want to know about bass octave pedals - HOW DOES IT TRACK THE LOW E-A RANGE!?
Well if it's digital, it just figures out what note that is, and uses math to go down an octave.
Please remake it with Julia
The EBS pedal sounds most “musical” to me, with volume on.
It will also double the lowest note of triads!
grooving... BASS SOLO!... back to groove... BACK TO SOLOING! you can clearly see the excitement
He enjoys every single minute of playing :) //Philipp
So true!
Another Maximiliano in the wild! Nice dude that's my name as well
5:57 that's something only a bass player shouts out
No only an idiot would shout that out
@@patbassman8251 Don't be such a fun sponge
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Russell: "It's pretty unlikely that you'd want to play this 100% wet..."
Me: That's... why I'm here.
I, not me.
@@bertg5294 Uh... no. "Me: That's why I'm here." is not a grammatical sentence that calls for "I". Using "I" would not be any more correct than using "me". There is no verb or object to refer to "I".
@@bertg5294 But really, I don't see the point for grammatical prescriptivism on a comment from four months ago on a music gear demo video...
I say, not me say, idiot. you must be a yank..
@@bertg5294
*"It is correct to say 'I say', not 'me say', idiot."
*You
*A full stop is one '.' dot and an ellipsis is three '...' dots. Two dots '..' means nothing.
Believe it or not, I know what point you are ham-fistedly trying to make. I countered with why an argument for why that rule doesn't apply in this particular situation, which you conveniently ignored. "I say, not me say" implies a grammatical sentence structure that was not present in my initial comment. Thus, that rule may as well not apply, because both "I" and "me" are incorrect in that context.
I suggest you leave correcting grammar to those who actually study it. If you won't, then I can't and won't help you.
Thanks Shia LaBeouf!
Don't let your bass dreams be dreams...Yesterday you said tomorrow
So just do it
Make yourbass dreams come true
Just do it!!!
//Andy
haha, dafuq!
nice
You’re an asshole. He can’t help how he looks.
Thomann's Guitars & Basses 😂😂
It's just mud playing below the lowest A with octave pedals, I've never heard anyone do that and make it sound good. Mostly I hear it in demos like these. Unlike others in the comments I do not question your ability as a bass-player, just what relevance it has in a musical setting
Adds body to your sound and keeps the low going when you play higher on the neck
My point being what musical relevance it has playing below the low A with an octaver, NOT what the octave pedal is suposed to do
I played bass in a three piece rock band (gtr-bass-drms) and the guitarist played in "D-standard" so I de tuned my bass a whole step low to meet him. D-G-C-F. I was able to get an Octave pedal to track as low as an open D on my Jazz bass. FIRST mix in more dry signal. No way you can track "fast" with the effect on full effect saturation. SECOND Octave pedals absolutely love basses with flatwound strings. You get way better tracking with flatwounds. THIRD use a bass with single coil pickups like a Jazz bass. Turn up the bridge p/u and pick or finger pluck as far back toward the bridge as you can.
the lowest note you can do is Eb0; thats one octave down+semitone from normal bass tuning, its 20hz and no one can hear below that. To get it to sound good is all about what your amp and cab can do, and of course if your octaver can track properly.
I don't like an octave pedal below 3rd fret C on A string. Muddy down there.
9:00 I never heard someone play minus 2 octaves that low. Normally you play on the higher strings and get a descent deep sound to it. Using -2 octaves on the E string sounds too muddy.
groove...
SOLO!!!! Love it :D
You guys should pay attention for gain levels for each pedal. Octamizer, for example, is distorting all the way and people who don't know this pedal may find it muddy, which is not.
I like this guy; he's funny w/o being too obnoxious...and, he keeps working while being funny.
Octave on bass sounds so good, but it's a beast you need to tame. I find the Poly mode on the OC-3 is the most user friendly, as it doesn't glitch that easy.
bull and shit. no one wants all that low, it just makes amess of the whole song. on stage it is useless.
@@bertg5294 I think you are trolling. Some synths go even lower. And as for EDM, well how low can you go.
@@gary999t still useless in a mix. all mud.
@@davidpearson6346 Extra low mud makes you creative??
@@bertg5294 babes disagree on dancefloors & in bedrooms every night; they are sub freqs and my name is mud. Tone shaping yes but to dismiss suboctaves as all mud i disagree
It’s hysteria by muse that you couldn’t remember the exact lick
this dude is the best. give him a raise!
Next time I see him, I will lift him above my head for all to see. //Andy
I don't know why you think sub octave sounds good on the lowest notes on the E-string so much.
Some people just want to watch the world burn
"ENGAGE!"
i fucking love this channel.
Thanks a lot :) //Philipp
Big fan of the Octabass after watching this. Thanks for the comparison!
Best use of bass octave: POG2: Autobass transform and roll out... Bass player suddenly becomes pipe organist and drones super gigantic sounding two note chords.
In my experience Octavers need to be used very carefully and sparingly; either to get a 4 string down to the low B of a 5 string, or very subtly to add a little more weight/depth an octave lower to fatten your sound slightly (I believe Ashdown amps have their subharmonic generator which adds an octave lower). However trying to hammer out octaves below A on the E string just ends up with mud; your amp or cab is unlikely to cope and the tracking of almost all pedals goes out the window at high BPMs, when you most need accurate tracking. As shown in this demonstration all most pedals do is make your bass and rig sound shit.
That is an interesting bass. What is it?
Human Base "Roxy B4" they are simply wonderful ! www.thomann.de/de/human_base_roxy_b4_opn.htm?ref=search_prv_9
thanks, think I am sold on the mxr, think i can handle it. the boss seems too crazy with cable options, the negative reviews on the mxr are mostly on tracking. i am no victor Wooten I'm a thumper so thanks for your down to earth attitude and ability to explain so I can make a better decision
What does the range switch do on the octabass?
Liked the EBS best.
Bradley Cooper you're great!
Haha, that was good! :-)
//Kris
A bit of fat seems the nicest setting generally along with all out synth sounds ^_^
am I the only one who think he looks like bradley cooper?
you would be a cool guy to have a pint with! Im subscribing! Ocata bass sounds decent and so does octamizer
What's the bass he's playing? Look awesome!
I personally think the Polyphonic on the OC-3 is the best one. It doesn't affect the signal on the high notes and the effect kicks in on the lower frequencies which is nice. I just got this pedal but I won't be putting it on my board.
The Aguilar Octamizer sounds SO much better on a passive bass. Don't be fooled by this.
the3-dkiller1 what did you buy?
With all due respect; octave (down) pedals stop sounding good below the 7th fret, IMHO. That's like a low B on a 5-strings anyway. Playing below that, you lose clarity & tracking, making the pedals sound worse than they actually are.
7:30 - hysteria - muse
Be carefull not to hide the setup from the camera with your head ! Nice vid bro' 👍👍
You guys produce the best bass videos, always so in depth
Is there any pedal like that, but to play the fifth instead octave?
I run my Bass thru a Boss OC-5 “Octave up” to a guitar amp , but i still get the Direct bass sound mixed in and sounds “synthy”. What is the best pedal for true “zero dry”?
Really would appreciate if someone could tell me how to do what he did in min 5:28 to 5:42 . Really enjoyed this video. Congrats well laid 👏.
I usually only like octave pedals when playing on the second octave. Most of the time, the suboctave, even in this video, sound artificial and rough.
What ever happened to this dude? Completely disappeared from the tube…
Anyone know how to get the most clarity out of perhaps an F0-E0?
Little late lol but find a pedal with great tracking and get a subwoofer
Who the hell cares what the pedals purpose is. Just do what sounds good to you. You could lay down some major grooves live with this and the crowd would be lovvvvving it
Ik play bass in a rockband with one guitarist. I do not groove like you do, but bang the bass with a plectrum ZZ top style (I know he play with fingers) I am looking for a pedal that gives the extra punch whe the guitar is playing solo. What do you recomend? I have a booster, Ampeg scrambler and chorus in my rack
Are you Rob’s Schneider’a relative?
in summary; bass octavers have a lot development required yet before they really do what they say they do.
Don't get me wrong it was fun, but every pedal went "oof" in a different way.
OK last thing, you shouldn't be playing them right at the bottom of the neck...oh fuckit, watch pedals and effects instead, they'll tell you what's what
5:43 sold 😂
I have ehx pog and TC sub n up , later one sounds the same to ehx but costs 3 times cheaper and more versatile. Wtf , ehx?
Excellent and useful! Thank you!
A bass player with a trebly voice...
Geddy Lee... do I need say more? 😂
E.B.S AND NANO POD RULE GREAT DEFINITION THE BOSS PEDALS 👎👎
Great video! I was thinking of adding an Octave pedal but none seem to fit my style.
Which is the best one?...
and am i the only person who thinks POGs sound like absolute shite?
Excuse me sir that's only 3 pedals what happen sir are you high
Didn’t know Eddie Vedder played bass.
hi, i think you didn't get oc-3 poly mode... but was i nice demonstration of the others pedals
As I see only one pedal can present one octave high notes. Is it true?
Great video!!..nice details!!..so cool of you to take the time out to deliver a fine upload!!...(years ago I see)..on these Bass Pedals!!..(you should’ve gotten some royalties payments for the promo you brought to the respective companies!!..❗️📣$$$due to him executives!!)
BTW,..sure would like to know more about that Bass used in the video!!
Maker etc;...🙏🏾pls!...such a kick ass tone!!..(but that headstock design...nah!...could’ve considered & represented the body shape better don’t cha think??..🤔🎶🎸)
🎸✨Something brand iconic trendy!
Guess I could’ve commented years ago huh?..had I known...😒
using the boss oc-3 in poly mode with a 7-string guitar (with direct out to guitar amp and output to a bass amp) i noticed a huge volume difference between 7th string and the other string. anyone else noticed this? so far i have resorted to a compressor after the output to keep level same between strings.
jarushin i
What is tracking? Focused on it a lot.....
Here is how to get maximum tracking with an octave pedal: Jazz bass strung with flatwound strings, bridge p/u all the way up and neck p/u down. Pluck close to the bridge and if you plan on playing the lowest notes on the E string you must mix in more dry signal and come a little down on the octave effect. I actually play a Jazz bass that is de-tuned to D standard and even the open D sounds fairly acceptable to me.
They all sound terrible.
Gät ä heeerkaat... grinsebacke lurchi un red deutsch
What bass are you playing on?
TOP, this helps me! thanks!!
blablabka no talking please)
Russell Snyder is... A carrot!
Rated PG13.
Sub n up beats them all.
I was kind of half listening to this while doing some work. Your energy makes it very hard to do a half listen and I can’t wait to watch and give this the attention it clearly deserves!
Interesting 🤔
Would the pog octave (the groove.,.... SOLO!!!....groove... part) work well with a fuzz/distortion (e.g. royal blood)?
yes, though you would want to try using two amps for the full effect
Is there a pedal that just lets you play the higher octave?
Boss PS6
EHX pitch fork
POG I think...
TC brainwaves??
Is the Digitech Bass Whammy (the new one) any good as an octave pedal?
Muito bom parabéns bom dia
Are there any effects where you can play your bass, and it sounds like you have a rhythm guitar playing along? Especially with distortion. No idea what this would be called or if it exists. Thanks.
Hey Kav. You could use a pitch shifter like a Sub N Up or and mix in some of the original signal. There are probably better ways though... hmm... KRIS!!!
//Andy
Check the akai one
Check out Royal blood , and their setup
Fishman Fission Powerchord ;)
As some TH-camrs have demonstrated, you can use a Micro POG or Nano POG. You can run the dry output (your regular sound) to your bass amp and the wet output (one octave higher) through distortion and into a guitar amp. Another way to do this is to use a line splitter pedal and have different effects on your guitar and bass channels.
Here's one well-done demo: th-cam.com/video/t91n83EdsrE/w-d-xo.html
Ooof the way he butchered the hysteria bassline killed me
Every lick was a variation of the actual song I thought it was pretty funny the way he "paraphrased" songs. Loved it
Ahhh so it was all a ploy to avoid being demonetised eh?
What bass is this?
Excellent piece. Thanks
very helpful, thank you
Please make a review for that bass 🙏
That's a peculiar bass. Is it custom?
No it's a Human Base Roxy - check the link in the description anytime you need to find out about gear used in our vids :) tho.mn/069yn //Philipp
Man I want that bass
Can you use it for both guitar and bass?
Yes. The POG out of this group would be great for that. I use an MXR Sub Octave Bass Fuzz on my guitar board...i got it for my bass board but i ended up liking it better for guitar. 🤷
There are tons of octave effects out there, best thing to do is experiment to find what you like.
I love the way
No TC Sub N Up with w ton of sound sculpting possibilities,ooh Thomann!?
Those are just the five octavers our customers are interested in most. Of course there are lots of other nice pedals out there, maybe in another vid ;)
I bought the Sub n Up sold it in about 5 minutes. Sounds like shit just digital and soulless
First time watching one of your posts and I already think you’re awesome
???? You sick!!!!
Oh hey!
Hey Joseph!
//Andy
I wish this guy was in every gear video I've watched. Super entertaining while still being informative.
There are so much better octavers out there. Foxrox Octron for example or Iron Ether's. Top 5 ufff..
Hello Thomann Music: you should make demos with Strymon pedals (namely Ola Chorus, Orbit Flanger). Greetings from Chile.
Not a good demo.
Play higher notes to hear the true character of the sub octaves, and mid/low notes for the higher octaves. Otherwise we only hear muddy artifact-laden noise as you drive the effects past their useful musical range.
For tracking, play fast staccato notes, scales, etc.
Again play high for sub low for higher octave shift.
What you said. Very frustrating all the way through. Why do they get these people to do demos?
U react like memes hehe. Nice vid btw.
Sounds awful I must say
3:39 - You would "definitely" use that live on a set "for sure"? I'm sure the audience with love it man ;)
Billy Boy 😂
Shorts. No.