I still think its hilarious that people go on about it and don't know why. Ignoring that it was around the time that Robocop 2 was coming out and Turner wanted to promote the movie they were distributing, so its really not all that shocking.
Considering some of the stuff WWE has done lately, with the SlimJim and Mountain Dew matches, and that thing where they let zombies eat their wrestlers (who I’m pretty sure were at work the next day A-ok) the robocop thing isn’t that bad I guess
The thing I love about Joker Sting is how straight TNA played it. Like, it wasn’t them going “We’re seeing a crazy unpredictable side of Sting!” It was just “Sting is The Joker now. Enjoy”
And from what I've read, WWE WANTED To do that. In 2011. Sting had an offer. Sting stayed with TNA and got Victory Road instead! Really, Sting should have taken the WWE Deal for, say, a year, done the match with Taker, maybe some other small feuds and hten gone back to TNA.
@@undertakernumberone1And I think Sting vs. Taker would have likely happened at Mania 32, had Sting never gotten injured during the match with Rollins. I imagine WWE was hoping that Sting's injury wasn't really as bad as it was & that he'd be able to return for Mania, but when that wasn't going to happen WWE simply tossed Taker into Shane McMahon's return at the last moment, despite it making absolutely no sense from a story perspective.
@@jaygo8917 Taker has since admitted that he's kind of glad the match never happened, since he felt that neither of them would have likely delivered on what the fans were hoping from it. I don't think he's ever stated that he didn't want the match back then, though.
@@valgallardo9632 You could add Sami to the list but that's purely down to how many times KO has turned on him throughout their careers! 🤣 Jokes aside, Cody is definitely creeping up the list. To be honest it's actually quite difficult to think of people who have been turned on multiple times as it takes a particular type of baby face to pull it off hence Rey, Cody and Sting.
I imagine it being embarrassing for Sting being considered one of the biggest stars of wrestling, even without the WWE train backing him, to be wrestling in the main event at the promotion viewed as “the not WWE one” with someone totally drunk and/or high. The fact that he was carrying that ass ugly Jeff Hardy TNA championship probably also didn’t help.
The Wolfpac was such a tough one for me. I loved all the guys in it, but I just hated the faction in general. Sting in any incarnation of the nWo just seemed wrong too. Always felt like Sting, DDP, Bret, and Goldberg should have been the WCW guys and finally pull the rest of the roster together to tear apart the nWo when it was time.
Agreed, Sting in any NWO shirt just looked off...I had forgotten that Nash was the one to screw him out of the Title. It's easy to forget how hot WCW was in 1996-97 because of how quickly it cooled off in 98 forward.
That moment was only bad for the shockmaster though. Sting was just there. Plus that’s not really a bad moment. Just hilarious. I think we’re all pretty glad that happened.
I remember watched Starrcade 97 live, and the energy got sucked out of the room the moment that 3-count happened. It was a normal 3-count, sure Hogan was lightly "checking Sting's oil" but that finish was horrid. Sting's WWE run had a similar trajectory, started out white hot and failed due to politics in the end (the Triple H mania match). Two slam dunk matches for Sting with two very disappointing outcomes. Actually, given this video set...what if Robocop had come down to help Sting against DX and Triple H at Mania...
Actually, I felt like the energy was sucked out of the building about one minute into the match when Sting - who had outsmarted the NWO at every turn for over a year & had basically been untouchable - had to sell a Hogan back rake. All the mystique that had been established so carefully over time was gone, just like that.
I hate that Sting was made to look so weak after Starrcade 97. He went from being able to beat up the NWO by himself to failing to beat a near 50 year old Macho Man Randy Savage. What a joke.
The mini movies, Vampiro, Robocop, staying with the entire Crow shtick way too long, permanently injuring Rick Rude (it was an accident) his body tremendously after the "roids", and wrestling into his early 60s with his fading fast. His career had a good start and a decent run. But his career could be summed up as Exhausting
I LOVED Joker Sting so much, but I completely respect your reasoning. I just think Heath Ledger Joker is such an essential part of pop culture now it can never be "played out".
How the hell is Vampiro v Sting not on this list? Sting walking around for weeks not showering and keeping that fake blood all over him? For some reason? Drugged up Vampiro setting Sting on fire and Sting just…letting it go? Fire-Russo-clap-clap-clapclapclap This should’ve easily taken the Joker Sting spot.
To this day I still cannot understand how TNA sent Jeff out there at all. I never got why they didn't keep him backstage, say he was attacked and cannot compete, and send out literally ANYONE ELSE to have a quick main event. Sting had to have been feuding with someone else besides just Hardy, no?
No to the feuding with anyone else. Sting was brought back (he had been working on a new contract) about 10 days before and won the title off Jeff in a surprise pop for a tv rating. However, since Jeff was a member of the heel stable, they still could've sent out any member of Immortal to take over. So, yes someone, anyone should've been sent out to take over.
They couldn't find him but when he came to the gorilla position finally they realized he should not be out there Unfortunately they took there are I offered it but one second and he walked out in front of the crowd
Eric Bischoff has stated that there wasn't enough time to call an audible, Jeff showed up in Gorilla out of it and everyone was looking around for someone to make a decision and Jeff started walking down the ramp. Bischoff walked to the ring and told Jeff, Sting and the referee to drop him, count three and get the hell out of there. Jeff was protesting that he could go, Sting told the ref to count three regardless of if he kicks out or not. Jeff tried to kick out and Sting held him down. What a mess.
Which would you rather have after buying a PPV? - A doped up Jeff Hardy in a 1 minute match. - No main event match at all with somebody telling the fans Jeff Hardy is too high to perform.
I became a wrestling fan in the late 2000s and only really started caring again in 2016, at the end of Sting's wwe run. I've seen more of him on AEW than anywhere else. But I have gone back and watched his older stuff. Him and Luger have become 2 of my all-time favorite wrestlers because of it. Seeing him take a victory lap in AEW, completely overshadowing his time in WWE has been a blessing. Sting never politiced, never complained, never had a major scandle, and is liked by everyone. He is the rare wrestler who was just a likeable guy who earned his way to the top. It's exceptionally rare for someone like him to have been so successful, especially in the 90s. He had to put up with Hogan, Flair, and Nash for almost a decade. Had to deal with shitty writing and booking in WCW's dying days but his star power never faded. He was just that damn good
Ironically the Antichrist of Wrestling persona was by far my favorite Jeff Hardy character even if he didn't quite pull off being a megaheel. I think he did all right. Damn him and his demons.
His AEW run has been well deserved. Sting chose TNA over WWF in part to help there be a viable alternative for North American wrestlers, and in AEW he has gotten a second bite at that Apple. The fact that we as fans get a chance to give him his flowers now is heartwarming.
Same with me started watching at 14 in late 2007. I fell out around 2010 when all the Nexus stuff bored me. I came back in 2016 when I heard AJ Styles went to the WWE. After that I googled him and learned about Bullet Club, The Elite, and Kenny Omega. Fast forward to now and I'm a bigger wrestling fan than I was as a teenager. Surprisingly WWE in 2017-2019 were arguably worse than 2010 to me but I stuck it out while keeping up with NJPW.
OK, I know that Michael Cole was just being fed an awful line by Vince but "This is what it's like Sting"...as if Sting is some rookie who hadn't been pretty much everywhere, done everything and been a main eventer for pretty much his entire wrestling career.
Meh, Wrestlmania is the biggest wrestling event of all, nothing sting was ever part of, anywhere he has ever had anything of Wrestlmania level, ever. Sting had never performed infront of as big a crowd as Wrestlmania 31 had at the time. So as a heel comment that wasn't even an untrue comment by Cole.
Not checking if ethier company stretched these numbers out (both probably did): Wrestlemania 31 was 67K attendance and Starrcade in Tokyo was 64,500 attendance.
Par for the course for WWF/WWE. The Road Warriors, Luger, Steiners, even guys like Kerry Von Erich "never existed anywhere else"; according to Vince. If Flair hadn't had the WCW World Championship belt physically, that might've happened to him, too. He could have and probably would have been made a joke.
I think the worst for me is forcing Sting to represent WCW as if they don't want us to remember that the Invation stuff ever happened just because they finally got Sting
pretty sure they could care less. Especially over a decade later. They weren't going to pay millions to AOL on his contract and he's said 1000 times he didn't like the "adult" direction that WWE was doing and only wanted to do PG type stuff. Some people spend faaar too much time thinking that any company cares what people remember, what they did over a decade ago, almost 2 decades ago. Protip: they don't. Its usually also the same "special" people who use the hip kewl backstage internet words like "buried" cause everyone who loses must be because they're being buried.
They had the real resolution of the entire nWo saga RIGHT THERE: Sting joins the Wolfpac to create a conduit between it and WCW, with the Wolfpac and WCW combining forces to finally end the nWo once and for all after Nash realizes it needed to die. Would've been a great, high-stakes War Games, but instead, FINGERPOKE. (Also the red facepaint was good)
I think WM31 was frustrating for the fans because it felt like Vince & Triple Hs last "F**k You" to WCW. HHH didnt need the win or to show him up with the terminator entrance.
Shawn Daivari said on Art Of Wrestling with Colt Cabana that 2010s TNA was such a weird time capsule between Joker Sting from The Dark Knight and Robbie E’s Jersey Shore run
It's gotta be Victory Road 2011. To Have your main event match ( Sting vs Jeff Hardy) end in under 1 minute due to Jeff Hardy being high as kite has to be the worst. Seriously you could see the disappointment on Stings face like he robbed the fans of a main event yet it wasn't his fault.
The management saw backstage Jeff Hardy was not in shape to wrestle the main event, that is not their fault. But to send him to the ring anyway was stupid. they could've done another angle.
Yeah, watching that match between Sting and Hogan made me feel awkward deep down The match restarting even though Sting got pinned for a clean 3 count was super bizarre
they should go with reffere botching counting , he supose to count superfast for 3 , which would lead to restart to match . it was indeed way to bizzare to continue with script at that point , bad call from bishoff or whoever was in charge
The Wolfpac was the best thing, WCW had turned on him too much, and Luger showed Sting that he could battle nWo Hollywood with them without having to worry about WCW leaving him behind.
His 2015 match against Seth Rollins probably deserves mentioning given that the match was what we thought was Sting's last match due to that horrifying injury due to the Buckle Bomb. Or maybe you can just add his entire WWE run.
Yea that’s the only one. Sting was 100% right on not coming to WWE all those years.They completely booked sting as a loser, which I hate even saying. WCW, TNA, and AEW have all treated him as the legend and ICON he is
I’m gonna defend that Flair turn at Halloween Havoc. Was watching religiously at the time and conventional wrestling storytelling would’ve had Flair actually hold up his end of the bargain and gain Sting’s trust at the end of the day. I did not see that shit coming at all given the build, and it might be one of the more shocking turns I can remember.
Losing not cleanly to one of greatest of all time HHH in Wrestlmania was nowhere near as bad as the embarrassing stuff he went through in his beloved WCW & in a secondary promotions like TNA.
His match against Triple H at Wrestlemania is definitely a sign of disaster. It really make no sense that the NWO came to his aid against DX, and of course he lost to Triple H. The guy who beaten former WCW guys during his reign of terror as World Champion.
I don't see him as screwed over. He was well paid and received more titles than most. It didn't always go great, but that's a separate issue. Not only that, he was made to be the star and main face and hero (possibly even savior) of WCW. The only one who really got any more than Sting was Hogan. And even in that, WCW never allowed Hogan to look better than Sting. Even before Hogan turned bad, Sting looked like the better wrestler when they had a match ending in no contest.
I really never had a beef with Sting losing at WM 31... He was what, 56?? It's not like HHH "Buried a young and promising talent". On top of that, it was an overbooked (fun) mess, and it could have gone one way or the other. It just never bothered me.
I may be remembering this wrong, but I believe Sting said that he just felt bad for Jeff and really loved him and his work. If so, I can understand knowing what Sting went through early in life. While it was a crap situation, Sting really did seem like a super great guy and handled it like a true professional. He may seem like a disappointed dad, but it's because he cares.
Yeah he was upset in the moment but after it he was just disappointed in Jeff and wanted him to get help. Bischoff was the same, he was mainly upset that Sting had been put in that situation.
While part of me enjoyed the idea of DX vs. nWo in the Triple H vs. Sting match, it felt very hollow and had this bitterness about it especially when Triple H won
It all depends on how long Sting is sticking around. If he is going to wrap it up like in less than a year like Bryan Danielson, I do not see why they would even bother with that, but if Sting is determined to wrestle like three more years it would be a very interesting storyline for sure
Can anyone recommend Sting's best matches? I never saw him as a great ring worker, but I've heard from other people that he was actually pretty solid. I've heard he had some great matches in Japan, so I'd like some suggestions of what to look up.
Sting-Flair Clash '88 was a Classic Sting Squadron vs Dangerous Alliance Wrestle War '92 is probably the best War Games Match ever. There's a Luger-Sting vs The Steiners in a Superbrawl i think 91 or 92 that was fantastic and hard hitting. He was never Bret Hart/HBK in the ring but has had great matches with good stories. Even the Meh matches makes it up with Intensity, Strength and that Crazy Athleticism.
Joker sting was an absolute hoot! Loved that version and it didn’t outstay its welcome, served its purpose and then made went away, a rare case of the Bischoff era telling a story and not overdoing it or botching it completely
I would say that despite my nostalgia for Seek and Destroy, my most embarrassing memory for Sting has to be late WCW when he was feuding with Vampiro and all the stupid booking by Vince Russo. I felt so bad for the guy. He had stayed loyal to the company through some tough years, right up to the end and they rewarded him with some booking that rivalled Tony Khan’s work in AEW.
I'll be completely honest here: As someone for whom Sting isn't necessarily in his Top 10 of all time (still hold a ton of respect for him), I've always felt the most invested and entertained by his Joker Era. A ton of fun character work. Although I absolutely see your reasoning on this Gimmick, Brian.
I cant fathom the hate that the Wolfpack gets. When it was happening everybody and their mom had the red and black on. Literally my all time favorite faction.
8. Joker Sting was awesome 6. Mini movies were hilarious 5. The Sting "I agree" on the ramp after the match was pretty revealing 4. Red and Black was my favorite. Whether it made logical sense or not. It was the closest we ever got to an outgoing Sting and Wolfpac is my favorite group. 2. The NWO vs DX bit(Nash faking a quad injury was great) was awesome but him losing was dumb especially since he lost via weapon and then shaking hands. At least have the "faces" stand tall at the end or something. 1. Meh. I didn't care how it happened but finally ending Hogan's reign(minus the Luger Nitro to Road Wild reign) was awesome and with all the ways Hogan/NWO won by cheating he deserved to lose and the Bret preventing another screw job was a good story. I was already used to overbooked WCW main events it would have more surprising if it was a clean win.
I think the problem with the Starcade match is that the ref count made it look like Hogan won fair and square thus making Bret's involvement and Stin's win seem flukey.
But how was Bret Hart preventing another screwjob if, right infront of our eyes, Hogan pinned Sting clean? The babyfaces looked like assholes because of how the finish went down.
Shocking to me that Jeff Hardy ever had a career to go back to post Victory Road. I appreciate that addiction is hell and it's best not to treat addicts like criminals or failures, but at the same time Jeff's one night of recklessness discredited an entire roster/company for a decade, which inadvertently robbed people of their check or their push.
He sobered up though and came back really apologetic to everyone involved. It was right to bring him back and give him another chance. He also owed it to TNA to come back and make amends, as he was still a draw and thus a valuable asset when he wasn't high as a kite.
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 yep it's a constant battle for some. The main thing is he never did the same thing again (working while high). What he does in his own time is one thing, then he is only hurting himself, but showing up to wrestle while high is another thing entirely.
I think Sting's defection to the Wolfpac can be justified as, ever since being betrayed by WCW in 1996, Sting's fight against the nWo was never about saving WCW, but about beating those who put dirt on his name. And during the Wolfpac vs Hollywood phase, everybody, fans included, knew how ineffective WCW was. So Sting had the choice between staying with people he hated and were losing, joining other people he and the fans hated or joining the third group of people he hated, but the fans liked. There was no right answer, so he might as well go for the pop.
@@acerimmer8338 One group had Hogan, the leader of the group that sullied his name, the other group was led by Nash, and the third group was 1) losing, and 2) the people who immediately threw him under the bus when an obvious imposter showed up. Who was supposed to join, the Flock?
The mini-movie for Beach Blast 93 was the moment that made me finally admit that wrestling was...not as real as I had always believed it to be. Kayfabe died for me that day...
Damn, Zane. No "Top 8 Best Moments of Sting's Career" video next week? Oh well, I'm always intrigued when Brian Zane says,"And this week, I'm gonna rank 'em ( 0:58 )". :)
There is no reason for Sting vs Triple H to be on this list LET ALONE NUMBER 2!!!!. Like wow really.... its not like storyline wise he recruited the NWO to be his back up. And it's not his fault WWE built the match as WCW vs WWE nearly 15 years after WCW died. The match was good. It was Stings first match in WWE. It was definitely a spectacle.
i just think its always a shame, when youve got a great performer like Sting, who was never really given a chance to Shine because the other guys were too busy hogging the spotlight...like, if Hulk Hogan never went to WCW, or if TripleH never got his push, then Sting couldve easily been "the face" of both franchises...but in THIS particular timeline, Sting was just a step or two behind, and that offsync led to being booked in matches like Hogan '97 or Hardy '11...in an alternate universe, i think Sting couldve ended Undertaker's WM Streak...i think Sting couldve seen John Cena...i think Sting couldve been cookin what the Rock was smellin...but "Couldve" is a pretty dangerous word sometimes...
Apart from the condescension of the WWE commentators, and Hunter going over, I really enjoyed Sting's Wrestlemania match. Logic be dammed. In a career spanning four decades, there are bound to be many low points. But Sting's longevity is incredible. Especially his AEW run, it's 2023 and just a few weeks ago Sting was wrestling in front of 80,000 people at Wembley, and putting on the kind of performance no 60 year old should be capable of, yet he is.
Exactly, most of the stuff here are straight up some of the worst & most embarrassing moments in wrestling history especially likes of starrcade 97, robocop, Jeff hardy incident etc. Losing a competitive match to one of the greatest like HHH at the biggest stage of them all that too not a clean loss is hardly anywhere near these.
@elamcyril totally agreed like if you HAVE to include it, it should be the first one because honestly it isn't as bad. Hell, the honorable mentions all seemed worse by comparison not to mention stuff not on the list, like ending Rick Rude's career.
@@night6724 I think what makes it worse is I always heard Rude told Sting not to do any dives and Sting did it anyways because he got amped up and Rude went to catch him knowing it wasn't safe.
@@night6724 "sold out football stadiums" lmao when? Bound for glory or TNA never ever did even 10k attendance. It wasn't disrespectful at all, Wrestlemania 31 was the biggest wrestling sting wrestling event Sting had ever been part of at that time of his career.
Sting joining the Wolf pack and changing his face red was just odd, considering how he spent literal years feuding with the nWo, him joining any variation of it would just be kind of dumb. Controversial opinion, I've never been the highest on Sting. I recognize his status as legend and I think the year long build up and early Crow stuff was great, but idk, something about him never clicked for me. Like HHH, he always seemed like a step below the other greats of his time and after.
I agree, Sting isn't bad by any means but I think his longevity played more to his status more than his capabilities in the ring or on the mic. I was not a big WCW follower but I can't really speak to many legendary matches that had Sting in them more than other all-time greats where you can point to so many classic moments and matches. WCW (Hogan?) is to blame for dropping the ball with Starrcade 1997 so hard, they had it all ready for him to be the face of the company and flubbed up big time.
I will argue Wolfpac Sting. As a 5 yo that look was amazing to me! It was a great vibe and somethin different. Sting had to switch it up. You can’t be the silent crow forever. Granted his matches were dirt and his star power dipped. It was a cool aesthetic.
I feel like most ppl including myself love the concept of Sting from his early WCW days with his goth aesthetic, silent aura & ambiguity that provided great tension for stories, more than his evolution since then. ofc he's still loved & appreciated for his longevity and what he adds to shows but the character could have been greater if it maintained consistency of its origin. I'm not a fan of his evolution, He quickly went from being the silent, lone rebel with his own agenda against power hungry alliances and their lack of morality to joining forces w/ factions, abandoning everything the character stood for, along with his supernatural presentation and virtuous intentions. I give him credit for trying to change up and try something different but they never felt natural & definitive, they were just your everyday gimmick changes. Its why I feel a feud w/ The Undertaker probably wouldn't be as great as we think it would be. Though they're 2 icons The Undertaker built a legacy & aura from decades of adding layers to the character, only refreshing his look but never his purpose. Even the American Badass ended up adding another layer to The Phenom when he was buried alive. So I think Taker would completely overshadow Sting who has gone through refreshes and inconsistent character developments, that often deviated or was a complete flip flop from his origin. The match sounds like a dream in concept but in reality I don't think Sting could add as much dimension or nuance as The Undertaker, he has a lot more to work with.
I remember being so hyped that Sting was joining the wolfpac. Then he came out with the red paint, his character changed and he didn't do much. I grew to hate it and was happy when he went back to the black and white. Also Flair stabbing Sting in the back for like the 4th time at Halloween Havoc 95 had me in hysterics. Yeah Sting looked really dumb by that point.
After his match with Luger, and Svage against the Outsiders. When they were beating up Savage at the end, with Hogan leg dropping him and Sting just kept getting knocked out of the ring by Hall every time he tried to help, when he finally crawled into the ring to pull Savage out, he looked so defeated. But more then that, he was made literally irrelevant in that moment. The Franchise of WCW became a nothing. I know it led to him becoming a megastar with the crow make over, so it turned out ok, but that moment? Oof.
I loved Joker Sting! It refreshed him at a time where he needed it and it was obvious that he was enjoying the role too. It's a shame it was short lived.
Have to agree on Joker Sting. The Crow was a cult hit but not really a widely known character. He definitely took inspiration from it, but I wouldn't call it a rip off. Joker Sting is a direct take(you could say rip off) of Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight. It wasn't an homage, it was a direct copy. While it did show us a different side of Sting which was cool, it came off like he was trying to directly copy a successful character...which he was.
Say what you will about RoboCop, he's the only partner Sting ever had who didn't betray him.
I still think its hilarious that people go on about it and don't know why. Ignoring that it was around the time that Robocop 2 was coming out and Turner wanted to promote the movie they were distributing, so its really not all that shocking.
Considering some of the stuff WWE has done lately, with the SlimJim and Mountain Dew matches, and that thing where they let zombies eat their wrestlers (who I’m pretty sure were at work the next day A-ok) the robocop thing isn’t that bad I guess
Yet
I'd buy that for a dollar!
new robocop game comming . looks decent and very faithfull . original actor does va
The thing I love about Joker Sting is how straight TNA played it. Like, it wasn’t them going “We’re seeing a crazy unpredictable side of Sting!” It was just “Sting is The Joker now. Enjoy”
And I loved it!
He pulled it off well.
TNA always has my heart for their complete lack of awareness. It's almost innocent and sweet, or would be if they weren't also so sleazy.
The vitamins skit. Just perfect.
They let Bischoff’s last appearance there be when he got trapped in a room with a crow 💀💀
“We just wanted Sting vs Taker, Vince!”
Truer words have have been been spoken
And from what I've read, WWE WANTED To do that. In 2011. Sting had an offer. Sting stayed with TNA and got Victory Road instead!
Really, Sting should have taken the WWE Deal for, say, a year, done the match with Taker, maybe some other small feuds and hten gone back to TNA.
@@undertakernumberone1And I think Sting vs. Taker would have likely happened at Mania 32, had Sting never gotten injured during the match with Rollins. I imagine WWE was hoping that Sting's injury wasn't really as bad as it was & that he'd be able to return for Mania, but when that wasn't going to happen WWE simply tossed Taker into Shane McMahon's return at the last moment, despite it making absolutely no sense from a story perspective.
What is wrong with WWE not giving us what we want, and then giving them that after 15 years
Taker didn't want it I've read that
@@jaygo8917 Taker has since admitted that he's kind of glad the match never happened, since he felt that neither of them would have likely delivered on what the fans were hoping from it. I don't think he's ever stated that he didn't want the match back then, though.
I'm glad that you put in that everyone turns on Sting. The only wrestler more unlucky than him was Tommy Dreamer
Also Rey Mysterio
Cody Rhodes is also getting up there.
@@ChrisDarnell001 Mysterio is a great shout. His closest friends (Eddie, Chavo and Batista) and then even his own flesh and blood! 🤣
@@valgallardo9632 You could add Sami to the list but that's purely down to how many times KO has turned on him throughout their careers! 🤣
Jokes aside, Cody is definitely creeping up the list. To be honest it's actually quite difficult to think of people who have been turned on multiple times as it takes a particular type of baby face to pull it off hence Rey, Cody and Sting.
Just like Brian said. The fact none of them ever damaged his Baby Face image, really showed how good he is on connecting with the fans.
i was gonna say the jeff hardy incident but that was more embarrassing for jeff, sting handled that like a pro
How you even consider that for sting is stupid man
I would say it was still very much embarrassing for Sting as well, it’s just that it’s in no way his fault.
@@Musiclover19Thank goodness that he handled it as professional as possible.
That's more annoying for sting
I imagine it being embarrassing for Sting being considered one of the biggest stars of wrestling, even without the WWE train backing him, to be wrestling in the main event at the promotion viewed as “the not WWE one” with someone totally drunk and/or high. The fact that he was carrying that ass ugly Jeff Hardy TNA championship probably also didn’t help.
Jeff Hardy embarrassing him at Victory Road and dealing with Robocop have to be my favorite infamous moments.
The Wolfpac was such a tough one for me. I loved all the guys in it, but I just hated the faction in general. Sting in any incarnation of the nWo just seemed wrong too. Always felt like Sting, DDP, Bret, and Goldberg should have been the WCW guys and finally pull the rest of the roster together to tear apart the nWo when it was time.
Wolfpac Sting was awesome
Sting, DDP, Bret & Goldberg sounds like a amazing faction of super babyfaces... add Flair 😂
Agreed, Sting in any NWO shirt just looked off...I had forgotten that Nash was the one to screw him out of the Title. It's easy to forget how hot WCW was in 1996-97 because of how quickly it cooled off in 98 forward.
Red face was so fucking insulting to native Americans it is shocking he never apologized. He is is an idiot
Good theme music tho
I’d have also put Shockmaster’s debut in the honorable mentions
The SHOCK…MASTAH
He fell flat on his arse- The British Bulldog
That moment was only bad for the shockmaster though. Sting was just there. Plus that’s not really a bad moment. Just hilarious. I think we’re all pretty glad that happened.
what exactly would that have to do with Sting? Just being around when it happened really has nothing to do with Sting.
moment when real rick flair just changed to cardboard cutout at one point . so hillarious
I remember watched Starrcade 97 live, and the energy got sucked out of the room the moment that 3-count happened. It was a normal 3-count, sure Hogan was lightly "checking Sting's oil" but that finish was horrid. Sting's WWE run had a similar trajectory, started out white hot and failed due to politics in the end (the Triple H mania match). Two slam dunk matches for Sting with two very disappointing outcomes. Actually, given this video set...what if Robocop had come down to help Sting against DX and Triple H at Mania...
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Triple H came out as the Terminator so it wouldn't have been far off.
Actually, I felt like the energy was sucked out of the building about one minute into the match when Sting - who had outsmarted the NWO at every turn for over a year & had basically been untouchable - had to sell a Hogan back rake. All the mystique that had been established so carefully over time was gone, just like that.
I hate that Sting was made to look so weak after Starrcade 97. He went from being able to beat up the NWO by himself to failing to beat a near 50 year old Macho Man Randy Savage. What a joke.
Blame Hogan for Starcade 97.
Macho was still huge in 97, there is no shame in losing to him at that point. One of the biggest stars the industry has ever had.
The mini movies, Vampiro, Robocop, staying with the entire Crow shtick way too long, permanently injuring Rick Rude (it was an accident) his body tremendously after the "roids", and wrestling into his early 60s with his fading fast.
His career had a good start and a decent run. But his career could be summed up as Exhausting
Kinda crazy how two of Sting’s worst moments including winning major championships.
I LOVED Joker Sting so much, but I completely respect your reasoning. I just think Heath Ledger Joker is such an essential part of pop culture now it can never be "played out".
How the hell is Vampiro v Sting not on this list? Sting walking around for weeks not showering and keeping that fake blood all over him? For some reason? Drugged up Vampiro setting Sting on fire and Sting just…letting it go? Fire-Russo-clap-clap-clapclapclap
This should’ve easily taken the Joker Sting spot.
I thought that Vampiro feud would make the list too
they got poor matches indeed bad booking with gimick matches
To this day I still cannot understand how TNA sent Jeff out there at all. I never got why they didn't keep him backstage, say he was attacked and cannot compete, and send out literally ANYONE ELSE to have a quick main event. Sting had to have been feuding with someone else besides just Hardy, no?
I think there was an excuse of "Nobody knew/nobody saw him before"? or something? NOT SURE I BELIEVE THAT. LOL
No to the feuding with anyone else. Sting was brought back (he had been working on a new contract) about 10 days before and won the title off Jeff in a surprise pop for a tv rating. However, since Jeff was a member of the heel stable, they still could've sent out any member of Immortal to take over. So, yes someone, anyone should've been sent out to take over.
They couldn't find him but when he came to the gorilla position finally they realized he should not be out there Unfortunately they took there are I offered it but one second and he walked out in front of the crowd
Eric Bischoff has stated that there wasn't enough time to call an audible, Jeff showed up in Gorilla out of it and everyone was looking around for someone to make a decision and Jeff started walking down the ramp. Bischoff walked to the ring and told Jeff, Sting and the referee to drop him, count three and get the hell out of there. Jeff was protesting that he could go, Sting told the ref to count three regardless of if he kicks out or not. Jeff tried to kick out and Sting held him down. What a mess.
Which would you rather have after buying a PPV?
- A doped up Jeff Hardy in a 1 minute match.
- No main event match at all with somebody telling the fans Jeff Hardy is too high to perform.
I became a wrestling fan in the late 2000s and only really started caring again in 2016, at the end of Sting's wwe run. I've seen more of him on AEW than anywhere else.
But I have gone back and watched his older stuff. Him and Luger have become 2 of my all-time favorite wrestlers because of it.
Seeing him take a victory lap in AEW, completely overshadowing his time in WWE has been a blessing. Sting never politiced, never complained, never had a major scandle, and is liked by everyone.
He is the rare wrestler who was just a likeable guy who earned his way to the top. It's exceptionally rare for someone like him to have been so successful, especially in the 90s. He had to put up with Hogan, Flair, and Nash for almost a decade. Had to deal with shitty writing and booking in WCW's dying days but his star power never faded.
He was just that damn good
Ironically the Antichrist of Wrestling persona was by far my favorite Jeff Hardy character even if he didn't quite pull off being a megaheel. I think he did all right. Damn him and his demons.
Just becoming a wrestling fan in the late 2000's. Boy do I feel sorry for you. Probably the worst time for wrestling.
His AEW run has been well deserved. Sting chose TNA over WWF in part to help there be a viable alternative for North American wrestlers, and in AEW he has gotten a second bite at that Apple. The fact that we as fans get a chance to give him his flowers now is heartwarming.
Same with me started watching at 14 in late 2007. I fell out around 2010 when all the Nexus stuff bored me. I came back in 2016 when I heard AJ Styles went to the WWE. After that I googled him and learned about Bullet Club, The Elite, and Kenny Omega. Fast forward to now and I'm a bigger wrestling fan than I was as a teenager. Surprisingly WWE in 2017-2019 were arguably worse than 2010 to me but I stuck it out while keeping up with NJPW.
Politicked* ... counterintuitive spelling, I know.
OK, I know that Michael Cole was just being fed an awful line by Vince but "This is what it's like Sting"...as if Sting is some rookie who hadn't been pretty much everywhere, done everything and been a main eventer for pretty much his entire wrestling career.
Meh, Wrestlmania is the biggest wrestling event of all, nothing sting was ever part of, anywhere he has ever had anything of Wrestlmania level, ever.
Sting had never performed infront of as big a crowd as Wrestlmania 31 had at the time.
So as a heel comment that wasn't even an untrue comment by Cole.
Not checking if ethier company stretched these numbers out (both probably did): Wrestlemania 31 was 67K attendance and Starrcade in Tokyo was 64,500 attendance.
Par for the course for WWF/WWE. The Road Warriors, Luger, Steiners, even guys like Kerry Von Erich "never existed anywhere else"; according to Vince. If Flair hadn't had the WCW World Championship belt physically, that might've happened to him, too. He could have and probably would have been made a joke.
Love you Brian. I've had a very shitty last few weeks & your uploads have given me something to look forward to.
Hope things are getting better for you :)
Hope things are looking brighter. Keep your head up!☮
Have you tried porn?
Ha.
So you're saying their was definitely a few moments in his career that Sting-ed?
I'll show myself out
You mean got “Stung” lol
@@tohomaster4664 you beat me to it
@@Dr.Meth666 great minds think alike
I think the worst for me is forcing Sting to represent WCW as if they don't want us to remember that the Invation stuff ever happened just because they finally got Sting
pretty sure they could care less. Especially over a decade later. They weren't going to pay millions to AOL on his contract and he's said 1000 times he didn't like the "adult" direction that WWE was doing and only wanted to do PG type stuff.
Some people spend faaar too much time thinking that any company cares what people remember, what they did over a decade ago, almost 2 decades ago. Protip: they don't. Its usually also the same "special" people who use the hip kewl backstage internet words like "buried" cause everyone who loses must be because they're being buried.
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Do alphas need their feelings mitigated?
They had the real resolution of the entire nWo saga RIGHT THERE: Sting joins the Wolfpac to create a conduit between it and WCW, with the Wolfpac and WCW combining forces to finally end the nWo once and for all after Nash realizes it needed to die. Would've been a great, high-stakes War Games, but instead, FINGERPOKE. (Also the red facepaint was good)
If it wasn't for TNA, I would've never seen Sting, and I'm glad I did. I loved Sting, true legend.
No one admits it, but "Joker" Sting was actually "Jim Carrey Riddler" Sting. Not his finest hour.
I think WM31 was frustrating for the fans because it felt like Vince & Triple Hs last "F**k You" to WCW.
HHH didnt need the win or to show him up with the terminator entrance.
Shawn Daivari said on Art Of Wrestling with Colt Cabana that 2010s TNA was such a weird time capsule between Joker Sting from The Dark Knight and Robbie E’s Jersey Shore run
Looking back, the Robbie E stuff is actually pretty fucking great.
@@Kaltagstar96 The List was amazing lmfao
@@Kaltagstar96Robbie E/Robert Stone is hilarious
@@Kaltagstar96I even enjoyed Rob Terry as Robbie T 😂
@@silversoulkenI loved the clips on TH-cam
It's gotta be Victory Road 2011. To Have your main event match ( Sting vs Jeff Hardy) end in under 1 minute due to Jeff Hardy being high as kite has to be the worst. Seriously you could see the disappointment on Stings face like he robbed the fans of a main event yet it wasn't his fault.
Remember he turned down a mania match with taker for that
The management saw backstage Jeff Hardy was not in shape to wrestle the main event, that is not their fault. But to send him to the ring anyway was stupid. they could've done another angle.
I AGREE!
HH went into business for himself and told Nick Patrick to count normal. HH has said this in the past, and then backtracked on it.
Yeah, watching that match between Sting and Hogan made me feel awkward deep down
The match restarting even though Sting got pinned for a clean 3 count was super bizarre
they should go with reffere botching counting , he supose to count superfast for 3 , which would lead to restart to match . it was indeed way to bizzare to continue with script at that point , bad call from bishoff or whoever was in charge
Joker Sting was a ton of fun
I loved it tbh.
My favorite Sting
It definitely should not be on this list
The Wolfpac was the best thing, WCW had turned on him too much, and Luger showed Sting that he could battle nWo Hollywood with them without having to worry about WCW leaving him behind.
Exactly, everybody seems to forget that. He joined the Wolfpac for Lex, and so that he wouldn't have to fight the black and white alone.
Yeah, the group was full fledged babyface by that point. The only kinda heels in Rude and Hennig had left by that point.
HHH going over Sting at Mania in his WWE debut match felt like a personal insult.
Flair's Halloween Havoc 1995 turn on Sting is still one of the funniest bits of wrestling to ever exist.
The whole Robocop moment was pretty silly. But I know the most disappointing to me was his WWE run especially his match at WrestleMania with HHH
Sid wearing trunks and knee pads with no boots on the beach was hilarious looking😂
He had softball after 🤣
His 2015 match against Seth Rollins probably deserves mentioning given that the match was what we thought was Sting's last match due to that horrifying injury due to the Buckle Bomb. Or maybe you can just add his entire WWE run.
There were some amazing moments in that run though, the debut was crazy
@@IronReece13 yea I kind of agree, everything up to until that WM match to me was at least interesting and positive
seth rollins injured sting
Amazing to think that despite how bad that injury was, he's still going in 2023. And we all thought it was career ending
Yea that’s the only one. Sting was 100% right on not coming to WWE all those years.They completely booked sting as a loser, which I hate even saying. WCW, TNA, and AEW have all treated him as the legend and ICON he is
I’m gonna defend that Flair turn at Halloween Havoc. Was watching religiously at the time and conventional wrestling storytelling would’ve had Flair actually hold up his end of the bargain and gain Sting’s trust at the end of the day. I did not see that shit coming at all given the build, and it might be one of the more shocking turns I can remember.
Maybe Sting losing his WrestleMania debut? That was pretty bad.
DX vs nWo or The Sean Waltman Bowl 😂
Typical trash wwe disrespecting ex WCW legends
WWE in 2015 was awful
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Boohoo WWE don't owe any of those ex WCW legends sh*t, defeated them, owned them, then put their own company guys over them.
Losing not cleanly to one of greatest of all time HHH in Wrestlmania was nowhere near as bad as the embarrassing stuff he went through in his beloved WCW & in a secondary promotions like TNA.
The commentary during Sting vs Triple H lets you known how petty Vince is.
Most people know all of sting's partners turn on him, but they often forget he started it all when he broke up The Police.
His match against Triple H at Wrestlemania is definitely a sign of disaster. It really make no sense that the NWO came to his aid against DX, and of course he lost to Triple H. The guy who beaten former WCW guys during his reign of terror as World Champion.
absolute ego indulgence and spit in the face of the fans - typical clique shit
Its amazing that sting became probably the most beloved wrestling icon, despite being repeatedly screwed by creative.
I don't see him as screwed over.
He was well paid and received more titles than most.
It didn't always go great, but that's a separate issue.
Not only that, he was made to be the star and main face and hero (possibly even savior) of WCW.
The only one who really got any more than Sting was Hogan. And even in that, WCW never allowed Hogan to look better than Sting.
Even before Hogan turned bad, Sting looked like the better wrestler when they had a match ending in no contest.
I really never had a beef with Sting losing at WM 31... He was what, 56?? It's not like HHH "Buried a young and promising talent". On top of that, it was an overbooked (fun) mess, and it could have gone one way or the other. It just never bothered me.
Joker sting was amazing , sting loved it and im pretty sure it was his idea and was the best thing on tna at the time
I loved it
Yeah Joker Sting was great. Anybody that doesn't like it are stupid and just don't get it.
@@mizer9510🤡
IT'S STINNNNGGGGGGG!
I may be remembering this wrong, but I believe Sting said that he just felt bad for Jeff and really loved him and his work. If so, I can understand knowing what Sting went through early in life. While it was a crap situation, Sting really did seem like a super great guy and handled it like a true professional. He may seem like a disappointed dad, but it's because he cares.
Yeah he was upset in the moment but after it he was just disappointed in Jeff and wanted him to get help. Bischoff was the same, he was mainly upset that Sting had been put in that situation.
While part of me enjoyed the idea of DX vs. nWo in the Triple H vs. Sting match, it felt very hollow and had this bitterness about it especially when Triple H won
I’ll be shocked if Darby doesn’t eventually turn on Sting
It all depends on how long Sting is sticking around. If he is going to wrap it up like in less than a year like Bryan Danielson, I do not see why they would even bother with that, but if Sting is determined to wrestle like three more years it would be a very interesting storyline for sure
I kinda want Sting to „turn“ on Darby. To teach him a lesson he never learned and to push him into World Title feud which Darby will end up winning.
Nick Wayne has already turned on Darby 😂
Funny story - Sting was the first wrestler I ever had a dream about.
Can anyone recommend Sting's best matches?
I never saw him as a great ring worker, but I've heard from other people that he was actually pretty solid. I've heard he had some great matches in Japan, so I'd like some suggestions of what to look up.
No great ring worker lol tell me you haven't hardly watched any Sting matches lmao
His match with Cactus Jack at Beach Blast in 1992 is a brilliant brawl. Also, his matches with Vader, I think, in the same year are great.
His match with Vader and he had a match with Luger and of course his clash of the champions match with flair.
Sting-Flair Clash '88 was a Classic
Sting Squadron vs Dangerous Alliance Wrestle War '92 is probably the best War Games Match ever.
There's a Luger-Sting vs The Steiners in a Superbrawl i think 91 or 92 that was fantastic and hard hitting.
He was never Bret Hart/HBK in the ring but has had great matches with good stories. Even the Meh matches makes it up with Intensity, Strength and that Crazy Athleticism.
@@blade5883not great, but solid? Sure
Joker Sting was a perfect fit for TNA at the time and fun to watch too.
Joker sting was an absolute hoot! Loved that version and it didn’t outstay its welcome, served its purpose and then made went away, a rare case of the Bischoff era telling a story and not overdoing it or botching it completely
Oh come on joker sting was literally the best thing on tna at that time
I agree
Joker Sting was Awesome
I rewatch his promos 😂
I would say that despite my nostalgia for Seek and Destroy, my most embarrassing memory for Sting has to be late WCW when he was feuding with Vampiro and all the stupid booking by Vince Russo. I felt so bad for the guy. He had stayed loyal to the company through some tough years, right up to the end and they rewarded him with some booking that rivalled Tony Khan’s work in AEW.
You would think it impossible to botch Sting/Vampiro. On paper it's a very obvious and easy booking.
@@pendafen7405 Yup. You'd think so, but Russo said, "Hold my beer." Or maybe "Hold my red substance."
I'll be completely honest here:
As someone for whom Sting isn't necessarily in his Top 10 of all time (still hold a ton of respect for him), I've always felt the most invested and entertained by his Joker Era. A ton of fun character work.
Although I absolutely see your reasoning on this Gimmick, Brian.
As a massive Raven & Billy Kidman fan, can I request we have Flocktober? Would be fitting for spooky season and all🐈⬛
I cant fathom the hate that the Wolfpack gets. When it was happening everybody and their mom had the red and black on. Literally my all time favorite faction.
While I don’t think Sting in the Wolfpac was his worst time, I will say the red face paint mad him look like an embarrassed mime.
8. Joker Sting was awesome
6. Mini movies were hilarious
5. The Sting "I agree" on the ramp after the match was pretty revealing
4. Red and Black was my favorite. Whether it made logical sense or not. It was the closest we ever got to an outgoing Sting and Wolfpac is my favorite group.
2. The NWO vs DX bit(Nash faking a quad injury was great) was awesome but him losing was dumb especially since he lost via weapon and then shaking hands. At least have the "faces" stand tall at the end or something.
1. Meh. I didn't care how it happened but finally ending Hogan's reign(minus the Luger Nitro to Road Wild reign) was awesome and with all the ways Hogan/NWO won by cheating he deserved to lose and the Bret preventing another screw job was a good story. I was already used to overbooked WCW main events it would have more surprising if it was a clean win.
joker sting was a joke and ruined his legacy. STFU PEGGER
I think the problem with the Starcade match is that the ref count made it look like Hogan won fair and square thus making Bret's involvement and Stin's win seem flukey.
But how was Bret Hart preventing another screwjob if, right infront of our eyes, Hogan pinned Sting clean? The babyfaces looked like assholes because of how the finish went down.
robocop
Love Joker Sting
Shocking to me that Jeff Hardy ever had a career to go back to post Victory Road. I appreciate that addiction is hell and it's best not to treat addicts like criminals or failures, but at the same time Jeff's one night of recklessness discredited an entire roster/company for a decade, which inadvertently robbed people of their check or their push.
Jeff shouldn't have
He sobered up though and came back really apologetic to everyone involved. It was right to bring him back and give him another chance. He also owed it to TNA to come back and make amends, as he was still a draw and thus a valuable asset when he wasn't high as a kite.
@@namikstudios And then he kept relapsing
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 yep it's a constant battle for some. The main thing is he never did the same thing again (working while high). What he does in his own time is one thing, then he is only hurting himself, but showing up to wrestle while high is another thing entirely.
If non-kayfabe moments count, could Sting's role in accidentally ending Rick Rude's in-ring career be on the list?
"I might get some pushback for this one" Joker Sting was so damn great and the best part of Impact for a long while.
I think Sting's defection to the Wolfpac can be justified as, ever since being betrayed by WCW in 1996, Sting's fight against the nWo was never about saving WCW, but about beating those who put dirt on his name. And during the Wolfpac vs Hollywood phase, everybody, fans included, knew how ineffective WCW was. So Sting had the choice between staying with people he hated and were losing, joining other people he and the fans hated or joining the third group of people he hated, but the fans liked. There was no right answer, so he might as well go for the pop.
As pointed out in the video, he joined Nash. You know, the guy that just screwed him out of the title. No justification, just bad writing.
@@acerimmer8338 One group had Hogan, the leader of the group that sullied his name, the other group was led by Nash, and the third group was 1) losing, and 2) the people who immediately threw him under the bus when an obvious imposter showed up. Who was supposed to join, the Flock?
The flock should have fueded with the nwo and not necessarily lose
@@ROCKNINJA777 NGL, as soon as I was typing it, I thought "actually, Sting in the Flock would rock". Shame it would require him to work heel.
The mini-movie for Beach Blast 93 was the moment that made me finally admit that wrestling was...not as real as I had always believed it to be. Kayfabe died for me that day...
Damn, Zane. No "Top 8 Best Moments of Sting's Career" video next week?
Oh well, I'm always intrigued when Brian Zane says,"And this week, I'm gonna rank 'em ( 0:58 )". :)
I actually like Joker Sting. It lets him cut loose and harass Hogan.
Joker Sting was awesome
Loved Joker Sting
To me, as a 90’s kid, golden/attitude era wrestling fan, Sting joining the NWO is the #1 “worst of Sting” moment by far
Sting's entire So-Called WWF Run late 2014- Night Of Champions 2015
I may be in the minority, but “Stupid Sting” is one of my all time favorite characters. Fall Brawl 95 being the Magnum Opus.
There is no reason for Sting vs Triple H to be on this list LET ALONE NUMBER 2!!!!. Like wow really.... its not like storyline wise he recruited the NWO to be his back up. And it's not his fault WWE built the match as WCW vs WWE nearly 15 years after WCW died. The match was good. It was Stings first match in WWE. It was definitely a spectacle.
It was absolute crud mate.
@@garymindyourownbuisness2349 the match? Not at all.... it was a fine match.
WCW botching the Sting vs. Hogan feud will never not be astounding to me.
I don't think it was a botch I just don't think that work for me brother is what happened
When it comes to Joker Sting there are just two sides:
"It makes no sense. I hate it"
or
"It makes no sense. I love it"
I loved it for that reason 😂
Sting and Prince Nana was hilarious
i just think its always a shame, when youve got a great performer like Sting, who was never really given a chance to Shine because the other guys were too busy hogging the spotlight...like, if Hulk Hogan never went to WCW, or if TripleH never got his push, then Sting couldve easily been "the face" of both franchises...but in THIS particular timeline, Sting was just a step or two behind, and that offsync led to being booked in matches like Hogan '97 or Hardy '11...in an alternate universe, i think Sting couldve ended Undertaker's WM Streak...i think Sting couldve seen John Cena...i think Sting couldve been cookin what the Rock was smellin...but "Couldve" is a pretty dangerous word sometimes...
Sting is a bigger star than Cena and the Rock, in wrestling anyway. Dwayne Johnson is a bigger movie star but that's a different story.
Apart from the condescension of the WWE commentators, and Hunter going over, I really enjoyed Sting's Wrestlemania match. Logic be dammed. In a career spanning four decades, there are bound to be many low points. But Sting's longevity is incredible. Especially his AEW run, it's 2023 and just a few weeks ago Sting was wrestling in front of 80,000 people at Wembley, and putting on the kind of performance no 60 year old should be capable of, yet he is.
When the stinger was on something filming his character profile for backstage assault
I saw this and immediately thought, "Alright, Zane's gone off the deep end"...
Watching the video anyway 🤣
Sting's loss to Triple H at number 2 feels widely out of place compared to the rest of this, like not even close.
Exactly, most of the stuff here are straight up some of the worst & most embarrassing moments in wrestling history especially likes of starrcade 97, robocop, Jeff hardy incident etc.
Losing a competitive match to one of the greatest like HHH at the biggest stage of them all that too not a clean loss is hardly anywhere near these.
@elamcyril totally agreed like if you HAVE to include it, it should be the first one because honestly it isn't as bad. Hell, the honorable mentions all seemed worse by comparison not to mention stuff not on the list, like ending Rick Rude's career.
@@night6724 I think what makes it worse is I always heard Rude told Sting not to do any dives and Sting did it anyways because he got amped up and Rude went to catch him knowing it wasn't safe.
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"sold out football stadiums" lmao when? Bound for glory or TNA never ever did even 10k attendance.
It wasn't disrespectful at all, Wrestlemania 31 was the biggest wrestling sting wrestling event Sting had ever been part of at that time of his career.
I’m more of a casual fan, but Sting vs Triple H was a great moment. A this is awesome chant, several huge pops, and just all the nostalgia.
That red paint alone was his worse and my depressed moment
It was supposed to be Al Perez as The Black Scorpion. When he found out he’d have to lose and be unmasked, he quit WCW.
Sting joining the Wolf pack and changing his face red was just odd, considering how he spent literal years feuding with the nWo, him joining any variation of it would just be kind of dumb.
Controversial opinion, I've never been the highest on Sting. I recognize his status as legend and I think the year long build up and early Crow stuff was great, but idk, something about him never clicked for me. Like HHH, he always seemed like a step below the other greats of his time and after.
It wasn't odd, it was brilliant and totally worked at the time.
I agree, Sting isn't bad by any means but I think his longevity played more to his status more than his capabilities in the ring or on the mic. I was not a big WCW follower but I can't really speak to many legendary matches that had Sting in them more than other all-time greats where you can point to so many classic moments and matches. WCW (Hogan?) is to blame for dropping the ball with Starrcade 1997 so hard, they had it all ready for him to be the face of the company and flubbed up big time.
1. getting completely buried by HHH at Wrestlemania looking like a clown (WWE)
2. begging "Hogan, help me!!!" (TNA)
3. the Robocop stuff (WCW)
I think him getting buried at Wrestlemania is more Vince's call.
I still think Sting looks like buff Jim Carrey, and Joker Sting just amplifies how goofy he can be, like Carrey
14:10 "Pride & Survival" would be a killer PPV name.
His entire AEW run
Let’s not forget Sting was involved in that horrible chamber of horrors match at Halloween Havoc 1991
WrestleMania 31 must’ve been weird for Sean Waltman 😂
I will argue Wolfpac Sting. As a 5 yo that look was amazing to me! It was a great vibe and somethin different. Sting had to switch it up. You can’t be the silent crow forever. Granted his matches were dirt and his star power dipped. It was a cool aesthetic.
Nearly turned off the video after the first entry. How dare you sir!!! I challenge you to pistols at dawn 😂
Sting and Jake the Snake. That rivalry lasted all but one match in a coal miners glove match where Jake was pretending the snake was biting him
I feel like most ppl including myself love the concept of Sting from his early WCW days with his goth aesthetic, silent aura & ambiguity that provided great tension for stories, more than his evolution since then. ofc he's still loved & appreciated for his longevity and what he adds to shows but the character could have been greater if it maintained consistency of its origin. I'm not a fan of his evolution, He quickly went from being the silent, lone rebel with his own agenda against power hungry alliances and their lack of morality to joining forces w/ factions, abandoning everything the character stood for, along with his supernatural presentation and virtuous intentions. I give him credit for trying to change up and try something different but they never felt natural & definitive, they were just your everyday gimmick changes.
Its why I feel a feud w/ The Undertaker probably wouldn't be as great as we think it would be. Though they're 2 icons The Undertaker built a legacy & aura from decades of adding layers to the character, only refreshing his look but never his purpose. Even the American Badass ended up adding another layer to The Phenom when he was buried alive. So I think Taker would completely overshadow Sting who has gone through refreshes and inconsistent character developments, that often deviated or was a complete flip flop from his origin. The match sounds like a dream in concept but in reality I don't think Sting could add as much dimension or nuance as The Undertaker, he has a lot more to work with.
The Jarrett mention sounds like a possible future series? Maybe Januarett? Jeffuary?
Ist has to bei Shawnuary, then Jeffuary :)
I remember being so hyped that Sting was joining the wolfpac. Then he came out with the red paint, his character changed and he didn't do much. I grew to hate it and was happy when he went back to the black and white.
Also Flair stabbing Sting in the back for like the 4th time at Halloween Havoc 95 had me in hysterics. Yeah Sting looked really dumb by that point.
That RoboCop stuff is hard (almost impossible) to defend to non-wrestling fans.
After his match with Luger, and Svage against the Outsiders. When they were beating up Savage at the end, with Hogan leg dropping him and Sting just kept getting knocked out of the ring by Hall every time he tried to help, when he finally crawled into the ring to pull Savage out, he looked so defeated. But more then that, he was made literally irrelevant in that moment. The Franchise of WCW became a nothing. I know it led to him becoming a megastar with the crow make over, so it turned out ok, but that moment? Oof.
I loved Joker Sting! It refreshed him at a time where he needed it and it was obvious that he was enjoying the role too. It's a shame it was short lived.
I would have had Robocop saving him as the worst moment.
Have to agree on Joker Sting. The Crow was a cult hit but not really a widely known character. He definitely took inspiration from it, but I wouldn't call it a rip off. Joker Sting is a direct take(you could say rip off) of Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight. It wasn't an homage, it was a direct copy. While it did show us a different side of Sting which was cool, it came off like he was trying to directly copy a successful character...which he was.
No totally wrong. Joker Sting was great and reinvented the character again.
Hhh vs Sting was such a heartbreak! It proved that Sting was valid in his apprehensions all along about not joining WWE!
"Yes we know about Jeff Jarrett but this is Stingtember after all."
Yea you have to wait for Jeff Jarrettuary to hear about Double J.
His WM match against HHH was exactly the reason why he took forever to join wwe in the first place. He even said in an interview talking about this